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00:01:24.000I'm doing great because I will say, as I was leaving the set on Friday, the Y Refi Mike flag whispered to me and it said, I still love you more, even though Andrew's coming back.
00:02:24.000So, anyways, great weekend with the kids.
00:02:26.000But there was a lot that happened, and it's time to unpack it.
00:02:30.000I will tell you, uh, I what a weekend to be away from your phone because you know there was this big debate with Andrew Wilson, Candace Owens, which we're going to get to get into.
00:02:40.000Um, which if you watched that, send us emails and what you thought about it.
00:03:21.000And, but, anyways, and there was this crazy story.
00:03:25.000And I cannot help but feeling personally connected to it.
00:03:28.000And that is, of course, the Lindsey Clancy story.
00:03:31.000And the reason I feel personally connected to it is because it seems like there is a one to one overlap of the same people that were attacking Erica, attacking Turning Point, that are now raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for a woman who strangled her own children.
00:04:05.000So now the internet has taken it and is blaming the husband, is blaming the drugs, blaming anybody but the mom who did this.
00:04:15.000They're saying she had postpartum depression, that is a very serious condition, and that her anxiety medication put her over the top and she became a homicidal maniac, somebody willing and able to murder her own children.
00:04:29.000If you're going to blame pharma, at least you're parroting what the defense is claiming.
00:04:34.000What makes this wild to me, and I think they're wrong, but at least it's within the universe of something that could be alleged and you could believe it.
00:04:40.000But the fact that there are so many people, and if you don't believe us, go on TikTok and look up Lindsey Clancy and just read the comments.
00:05:42.000I've already gone over the forensic astrology charts that show that the perpetrator is a male, the perpetrator is having an affair, and that the victims, specifically Lindsay, were drugged during this.
00:06:35.000We think that you should not be curtailed in your speech.
00:06:38.000But my goodness, is there ever been a moment in history where you're like, hey, some of those people that wanted a gatekeep are kind of making some points now?
00:06:47.000Now we have to reject it because the bad people will use it to hurt the good people more often than not.
00:09:15.000That's what they're talking about in real life, but then you can go online, throw up 139, and they're just going to say, I don't believe it.
00:09:22.000I think the husband did it because we have a screenshot where he looks creepy.
00:09:36.000What people will believe in the aftermath of a tragedy, man, it makes your skin crawl because innocent people are getting absolutely lambasted while guilty people are being defended and $700,000 raised from them.
00:09:54.000You think about Austin Metcalf, same situation.
00:10:17.000On the other hand, if you took a 19 year old, got on a bunch of drugs, and then did a school shooting, this is what I brought up on Thought Crime.
00:10:25.000I don't think we would ever accept any depression medication related excuse for it.
00:10:45.000With anybody with a moral compass that's at all attuned, if you have ever prayed at all one time, like this stuff is easy.
00:10:54.000And the fact that it's apparently not, and they're raising $700,000 to defend this woman because, you know, the husband looks creepy, I guess, in a photo.
00:11:04.000Okay, but this one caught my eye this morning because it's a person that has harassed Erica, has harassed me.
00:11:13.000I don't know much about her, candidly, but I just, as soon as I saw it, I was like, ah, one to one.
00:11:20.000It is like the Venn diagram of people that have harassed Erica and harassed Turning Point to are now defending a mom who murdered three of her kids is shocking the amount of real estate that the both.
00:11:33.000Both of those concentric circles would overlap.
00:11:55.000So, for those who couldn't see it, besides playing weird, creepy music, it says on the screen that Patrick Clancy, the husband, is about to be exposed for the psychopath that he is.
00:12:05.000And yeah, they just, it's so important to emphasize that high level of overlap because we were discussing what's driving this.
00:12:13.000And I'm not entirely sure what psychologically does it, but it's very clear there's a large universe of people, very large.
00:12:20.000There's dozens of people whose full time job is making videos about this.
00:12:25.000Posting about it, speculating about it, reading chats from viewers about it.
00:12:30.000You can easily spend all of your free time marinating in this case, Charlie's case, cases like it.
00:14:07.000I loved, like I said, I admit I loved Breaking Bad, but never in my mind would I then attribute the entertainment value of that and then invert my moral compass to the point where I'm trying to raise money and get a woman off who murdered three of her children.
00:14:35.000Controversial, but for whatever reason, this seems to be something that affects women more than it does men.
00:14:40.000I'm not saying men are unaffected, but we need they're like these women.0.99
00:14:45.000If they had a man that was like, Wife, get off the phone, you need like we need to go touch grass together, let's go for a walk.
00:14:51.000Like that, you know, it's interesting.0.98
00:14:52.000You say we have a mental health crisis.
00:14:53.000You should watch what we did last Friday if you haven't, or watch the documentary it's about because I do think there's something to be said that the whole segment was about we do have a mental health crisis.
00:15:03.000Is it caused by us constantly talking about it, marinating in therapy speak?
00:15:09.000And one of the takeaways from that documentary, it was called Thank You for Sharing.
00:15:13.000You guys should check it out, is it probably would be better if our response to mental health, the stuff that looks like mental health crises, might be, oh, you know, it might be, you know, sin is tempting me.
00:15:26.000And so I should pursue religion more, read the Bible more, rather than, oh, I have this treatable condition that I should spend more time in therapy.
00:15:35.000I should look at this list of medications that I should get on.
00:15:37.000And there are definitely cases where there is a clear link where medication is helpful.
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00:18:53.000To a loner, as anybody gets in this business, and to be accused of taking bucks from Israel and to be accused of being a Zionist, because what every Zionist does is they move from Canada to America.0.66
00:19:05.000Like Zionists, they don't move from Canada to Israel.0.63
00:19:07.000And Zionists, the ones like me that criticize Israel in terms of what they did during COVID, experimenting on their population with the Pfizer jab, you know, that's the it's insanity.0.83
00:19:25.000But this is what drives me nuts it's leading people astray in a very meaningful sense.
00:19:29.000And Hassan Piker just really perfectly illustrated the benefit that the left is reaping from this.
00:19:34.000In addition to breaking up the right in the coalition and it's going to hammer the Republicans in the midterms, it also diverts the attention from where the attention should be political violence.
00:19:44.000And Hassan Piper is all too happy to have the attention be shifted from where it truly is to where it probably is not.
00:19:49.000Yeah, no, and we're going to get into that in the second segment.
00:19:52.000That was kind of where I was going eventually here.
00:19:54.000But Viva, I just want to say we don't work together.
00:19:58.000I don't know what you're saying, you know, all that stuff, all the necessary caveats.
00:20:03.000And candidly, you're probably, if I'm just like, you know, judging us, especially Blake, Blake is like way on this side of the conspiracy spectrum, and I'm somewhere in the middle.
00:20:14.000You're probably a little bit more prone to like entertain conspiracy.
00:20:17.000I'll be more open to conspiracies when any of them end up being true.
00:20:20.000Well, and I mean, listen, and here's what I think.
00:20:25.000I genuinely think that COVID ruined so much because we were lied to on this mass scale, and we basically haven't recovered to it.
00:20:36.000It was the first time the government really flexed all of its muscles to sort of shove down our throats a fake narrative, and now everything's fake to everybody, even when the facts don't line up.
00:20:46.000And what I'm, we started the show, Viva, talking about this Lindsey Clancy story.
00:20:50.000Where she even admits that she killed her three kids, and yet they're trying to get her off because of the Zoloft and all this stuff, and because of postpartum depression.
00:20:59.000We are living in a post truth online narrative, and I'm genuinely worried it's going to cook people's brains even further, and that this will not stay online.
00:21:08.000This will impact our electoral politics, this will impact our constitutional republic, and so many things.
00:21:14.000But bringing it back here, Viva, you can opine on that if you want, but bringing it back to this debate that happened on Friday, I was off.
00:21:41.000I mean, it's such a juvenile way of viewing it.
00:21:43.000Andrew Wilson made some unforced errors, and it's the only one that they're running with where he couldn't name the seven charges offhand.
00:21:49.000And he said it was murder instead of aggravated murder.
00:21:52.000I operate on the basis that, first of all, Andrew Wilson could know nothing.
00:21:56.000Of the actual proceedings, he could be totally ignorant to the proceedings.
00:22:00.000What that debate was supposed to flesh out for those who are interested is any substantiating evidence that Candace had for any of her various theories from the get go.
00:22:10.000The Egyptian planes, the trapdoor, he was shot from the front, he was shot from the back, he was shot from the down, he wasn't shot.
00:22:16.000Israel had a hand in it, Erica Kirk was complicit.
00:22:19.000It was the time to flesh out her theories.
00:22:22.000And but like I said, this I don't think it's an appropriate discussion to have right now as to the overwhelming nature of the evidence.
00:22:29.000Because we're at the stage of the preliminary hearings, and you talk about overwhelming, underwhelming, reasonable doubt at the trial.
00:22:34.000Tyler is innocent unless proven guilty.
00:22:37.000Right now, to have a debate as to the overwhelming nature of the evidence is a misguided, premature debate because they haven't had all of the evidence, nor has the evidence been tested.
00:22:47.000So to say it's overwhelming, it is premature.
00:22:51.000What you say right now is it's overwhelmingly the case, the probable cause is going to have been met and set that aside.
00:22:56.000So Andrew missed the easy layup on the Naming the charges.
00:23:01.000Then he went into a misguided accusation that he wouldn't ever been able to prove that Candace was cheating, which is how she listed all seven of them.
00:23:09.000Incidentally, almost verbatim to the way it's described on AI, but it doesn't matter.
00:23:17.000I just like to say, you have to be careful with those things because a very common thing with conspirators is they're very good at specific details in whatever they're obsessed with.
00:23:26.000And then it's that they put them together in a very.
00:24:30.000So half of the internet now believes that Andrew Wilson was cheating with an earpiece, or as if it made any difference.
00:24:37.000The whole thing about debates like this is it's a game of chess in that everything is on the board, and you can't really cheat in the game of chess short of taking a player's piece off the table.
00:24:46.000But although you did that, This is a debate.
00:24:48.000Everyone should be able to fact check in real time, hear what they're saying, and you flesh out the actual substance of the ideas.
00:24:53.000So set aside the fact that Andrew couldn't name the charges.
00:24:57.000Like I told Alex Jones, big flipping deal.
00:25:00.000I wanted to know what evidence Candace had to substantiate her hypotheses, her just asking questions that Israel was somehow involved.
00:25:08.000And her answer at the end of the day was a big fat nothing other than the call.
00:25:13.000And then she ended up with, it's just my opinion.
00:25:26.000Like, I literally thought at the end of this when I watched it, I was like, so wait, like, all the death threats, all the accusations, all the smears was just like, because you.
00:25:38.000It was just free association, you know, vibes.
00:25:55.000That's what all of the evidence and all of the behavior points to Israel's involvement.0.60
00:26:00.000Those of us who believe that there is mounting evidence that Israel put a hit on Charlie Kirk, I think France and Israel are involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination.0.87
00:26:08.000And I'm going to put that out there with full confidence.
00:26:11.000So I'm asking if you think that Israel and France were involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and you say with full confidence, I'm just asking for the evidence or at least.
00:26:21.000Walk me through the mindset of why it is that you can think that.
00:26:24.000I actually don't have to walk you through why I think.
00:26:28.000Yeah, that seemed to be the whole pitch.
00:26:30.000It seemed to be like, hey, just watch the show if you want to know what I think.
00:26:33.000But like, we were here to hear you defend what you think.
00:26:36.000And then, you know, the Washington Times put out this headline after the fact Candace Owens concedes no direct proof Israel killed Charlie Kirk in debate with Andrew Wilson.
00:27:36.000She goes on to say, I think, I believe if I'm remembering right, that he was just complicit, or she's complicit in Tyler Robinson being guilty in suggesting that.
00:27:48.000So, this is what it's all been about, Viva?
00:27:50.000No, but there was a post, I forget which one from when, she says that he was betrayed by people who eulogized him.
00:27:57.000I mean, the whole point is this was something of a day of reckoning for Candace catching up to her.
00:28:04.000Call it lies or call it just exaggerations or theorizing.
00:28:08.000I've long said there's two types of lies.
00:28:10.000Saying something you know to be false when you say it, or positively asserting something that you have no legitimate basis to positively assert when you do it.
00:28:18.000She is very much guilty, in my view, of the second lie, which is when she said that the receipt or implied that the receipt from the Pangwich Cowboy Steakhouse proved that Tyler Robinson was there.
00:28:29.000And during that debate, she has to concede that they never tied that receipt to Tyler Robinson before or after, and that nonetheless, she puts that in her official timeline as to how Tyler Robinson couldn't have been.
00:28:41.000At or him at 11 o'clock to send the text message because he was at Cowboy Steakhouse eating a steak and Sprite, even though they have not, she admits, they didn't tie that receipt to him.
00:28:49.000I don't understand how people don't, you know, get a little insulted.
00:28:53.000Well, and by the way, Viva, they have the Celbrite, they pull data off his phone, they've got GPS data from, like, I guess his phone or his car or whatever.
00:29:02.000The point is, you think the prosecution would go, you know, go into this knowing that they don't actually have his whereabouts where he needs to be?
00:29:11.000Like, the defense wouldn't bring it up.
00:31:22.000The thing that bothers me, Viva, is that.
00:31:25.000There's this constant burden shifting that happens where you make a really reckless, crazy claim, but then you feel like there's no responsibility that you need to back it up with any evidence.
00:31:37.000And first of all, I've got no affinity for the Israeli government.
00:31:41.000I've got no affinity for any government on earth.
00:31:44.000If there were the slightest shred of evidence as of now, positive actual evidence, not like the absence of evidence is the evidence that Israel was involved, MI6, French intelligence, we would want to know it and we would want to act on it.
00:32:09.000You can make an argument that Israel, Netanyahu, would want to take out Charlie if he was going to lead an entire generation of conservatives to switch their views on Israel.
00:32:18.000That same argument holds not just as true, but more true for the MMIW2SLGBTQIA plus community, who Charlie was very critical of.0.92
00:32:27.000And he was killed in that moment itself.
00:32:30.000And so the rationale that they use to conclude that Israel was involved somehow in the absence of any shred of evidence is the exact same motivation that would also motivate the Trans LGBT community who were very angry at Charlie, except there's a slight more prima facie, at least commencement of evidence that Tyler Robinson did it versus an Israeli element.
00:32:51.000And I appreciate the absence of the evidence is that Joe Kent asked Patel to look into a foreign nexus and Patel allegedly shut down or didn't follow up on that.
00:33:45.000Oh, someone from the French government high up with.
00:33:48.000Intelligence of an alleged plot to kill me from the French legions told me.
00:33:52.000So I go to the FBI and they probably think she's absolutely insane and then doesn't reveal the source to them because they didn't get back to her.0.90
00:33:59.000And then them not getting back to her is the reason why she didn't reveal the source and it's the evidence that the plot was true.
00:34:05.000It's crime series insanity and people have fallen down this rabbit hole.
00:34:09.000And to go back just to the beginning, where he said COVID broke people's brains, people no longer know what to believe and they can therefore justify believing absolutely anything.
00:34:18.000The amount of people who don't understand how to compare comparables.
00:34:22.000That comes to me and say, Viva, you think Brian Cole Jr. is a patsy in the pipe bomber case, but you believe this with Tyler Robinson.
00:34:29.000I say, first of all, he'll get his trial.
00:34:31.000And if I see evidence that proves his innocence or doesn't prove his guilt, we'll deal with that when we get there.
00:34:36.000But anybody thinking that those two things are comparable, that Brian Cole Jr. was arrested five years after the most thorough investigation in the history of America, after he was initially investigated and then not followed up on, a month after Steve Baker releases an expose exposing who he thinks might be the January 6th pipe bomber, which is a Capitol Police officer, former and CIA employee.
00:34:56.000And that the evidence that they have against Brian Cole Jr. are household items bought over the period of eight years.
00:35:01.000Compare that to Tyler Robinson, who turned himself in right or wrong 33 hours later after his parents allegedly identified him, after his boyfriend identified him.
00:35:10.000And people think that these are somehow comparable, so they can say Brian Cole Jr. is a patsy, so too must be Tyler Robinson.
00:35:15.000People have lost their ability to think critically, and they can justify it because they have zero trust in the institutions, zero trust in the FBI, and to some extent, the FBI and the DOJ have to take responsibility for people's lack of faith.
00:35:27.000Having been restored into the institution for the lies that they've been told now as relates to Thomas Crooks not having a social media footprint.
00:35:34.000You know, Epstein killed himself, which people just won't believe, especially after the years of investigation that we're being told to not believe it.
00:35:42.000And so people have such distrust in the system, they feel empowered to believe whatever the hell they want, even if it's not at all remotely comparable to the things that they have a legitimate basis to be questioning the narrative.
00:35:58.000Well, there's a very important clip that we need to get to because it gets to the heart of this and why it's so important to keep talking about this.
00:37:03.000Viva, I think this clip is probably one of the more infuriating ones that I've.
00:37:08.000Seen in the aftermath because there was this moment where we were all focused on the violent left, assassination culture, rooting out these networks, rooting out the left wing violence ecosystem, the funding networks, whatever.
00:37:25.000And what he just said there is so damning.
00:37:29.000And she should so be ashamed of herself, candidly, for what has happened and what she has managed to distract everybody with French Foreign Legions, Egyptian planes, Fort Huachuca, all this.
00:37:43.000That clip right there is so hard to watch because there's truth in it.
00:37:47.000Well, no, it's the old expression, you know, never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
00:37:52.000And he acknowledges what Candace is doing.
00:37:55.000It is, whether or not it's of bad faith, it's a mistake from the perspective of his political ideology.
00:38:03.000Can you imagine also the idea that, God forbid, you should martyrize, colloquially speaking, a man who did nothing other than engage in peaceful rhetoric, a man who was.
00:38:13.000Nicer than 99.9% of the people out there who engaged, who changed minds, and who was brutally murdered because of the manner in which he did it and his persuasive abilities while doing it.
00:38:25.000That is literally a martyr beyond the religious sense.
00:38:31.000And they're so happy now because he doesn't get to get martyrized because it's almost like the institution that he built is being demonized.
00:38:38.000They no longer get to focus on what is political violence and what is assassination loving culture out there.
00:39:04.000Nobody's going to go after Hassan Piker and call him a Fed slobber, but he loves the fact that what she's effectively done is diverted from where the probable culprit is.
00:39:13.000And I say this and I've said it before and I'll say it again.0.63
00:39:15.000There could be Foreign elements involved in this.
00:39:18.000And I do sincerely believe, although I appreciate I can't yet produce any evidence, that people were radicalizing Tyler Robinson online.
00:39:25.000And I still ask the same question that I've asked in the beginning Has the FBI, Utah state investigators looked into, identified, and cleared each and every person who was involved in a discourse?
00:39:35.000Viva, I still have those same questions.
00:39:36.000Just to be clear, I still have those same questions.
00:39:38.000Nudging is a real thing that happens online.
00:39:40.000These foreign actors, whether it's Russia, Iran, the CCP, they go into these chats, they nudge vulnerable young people to do radical things.
00:40:14.000But then she says, hey, if I saw new stuff, then yeah, I could be convinced, which is basically a contradiction in and of itself.
00:40:21.000I just want to end it here, Viva, by sort of the bigger picture.
00:40:26.000We are in a fight for, I believe, like reality of truth.
00:40:32.000Where do we go from here and how do we fix it?
00:40:34.000Well, you're going to find out whose assessment of reality or assessment of the present proves to be more accurate over time.
00:40:42.000You may not know it in the moment, but when I was taking a lot of flack for just asking the questions about the Pangwitch receipt, it's my biggest go to example.
00:41:29.000I mean, people have to understand that skepticism is one thing, but conspiracy psychosis is entirely another.
00:41:35.000And you should never trust anybody, but that doesn't mean reflexively believing the exact opposite, because that's just as bad as blind trust.
00:41:43.000Question everything, and it doesn't mean that everything that the feds are going to tell you is going to be a lie.
00:41:48.000Candace comes out and says zero percent confidence that Tyler Robinson's the right person.
00:41:52.000She's operating on a foregone conclusion that the text messages, Discord chats are all falsified.
00:41:58.000Now, if it turns out to be falsified, well, then holy hell, we do have a problem.
00:42:02.000Well, you're not, you got like 17 agencies involved in one of the biggest conspiracies ever, if that's the case.
00:42:08.000But you got surveillance footage, you got family members, you got his gay lover, you've got DNA, you've got yeah, you got fingerprint, you've got.0.54
00:42:17.000And so, I mean, you would have to, I mean, I don't trust the government to park a car, let alone draft a conspiracy this sweeping and expansive, and nobody even talk about it.
00:42:29.000Maybe there might be like, you know, maybe all of those shreds of evidence can be, you know, disassembled at a trial.
00:42:34.000But we're at the preliminary hearing stage.
00:42:37.000The point is also based on a lot of disinformation, misinformation.
00:42:40.000When you have some of these analysts coming out and saying, well, they can't disprove it because the information wasn't communicated to them and that's false.
00:42:47.000That they've had the phone records for since March, the March disclosure.
00:42:52.000The whole thing is, people come to the conclusion that they didn't raise any of these issues at the preliminary hearing because they couldn't.
00:42:58.000What they don't understand is they can't now challenge them because at the preliminary hearing, they didn't challenge them despite having the requisite potential evidence or contradictory evidence to do it.
00:44:08.000I think it's just if you see those clips we aired, it's remarkable to then tell someone this woman has been talking basically exclusively on this topic for a year because she's so eager to back off from everything.
00:44:21.000She's so eager to turn everything into that's just my opinion.
00:44:24.000I actually, I've not been offering, I don't have any.
00:45:32.000Pound two fifty and say Charlie Kirk to make sure you're in the best available plan.
00:45:36.000That's pound two fifty and say Charlie Kirk or go to askchapter.org slash Kirk.
00:45:45.000There was one other clip I actually really wanted to play for our purposes here, just to kind of wrap this up because it was just the whole premise of this debate was the Patsy thing, right?
00:45:56.000So let's go ahead and see the contradictions here.
00:45:58.000Again, this is from Milk Bar TV, who does great compilations of this stuff.
00:47:05.000Yeah, so we're really excited today to be launching again for 2026 what we launched in 2024, which was our Commit 100 program.
00:47:13.000Our Commit 100 program was committing volunteers to chase 100 ballots, which is really exciting because we have an application, the TP Action application.
00:47:26.000So if you go to tpaction.comslash app, you can download the app and be prepared.
00:47:32.000And then go to tpaction.comslash 100 today, and it's live to get signed up.
00:47:38.000And our team will start the process of assigning essentially 100 votes to chase during this election.
00:47:47.000How it works is we have basically our team that we're working together with Citizens Alliance, and that's Cliff Maloney.
00:48:00.000He's, if you see him online and their organization at Doors Win Wars.
00:48:07.000And the idea is that the teams will be working in conjunction to support getting people to Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire.
00:48:18.000And if you'd like to attend and help chase votes, and we did this with thousands and thousands of people in 2024, we'll give you a hotel room.
00:48:27.000You can stay for at least a week at a time, is ideal.
00:49:38.000None of that, and Charlie said the same thing.
00:49:40.000He said this sitting right here on the show that that moment loses all its luster if we don't win in 2026, if we don't carry on what's there.
00:49:53.000I hope to hear Cliff's voice give that call again on election night because we're probably going to be doing the same thing.
00:49:58.000Yeah, we're going to be streaming that night.
00:50:00.000We're going to be streaming that night, but they're okay.
00:50:02.000Let's just call the elephant out in the room here, Cliff.
00:50:04.000So we're partnering, Turning Point Action is partnering with your organization, New Hampshire, Nevada, Arizona, the Red Wall, as we're calling it.
00:50:12.000We're going to get thousands of volunteers.
00:50:14.000Everybody can go to tpaction.comslash 100.
00:51:08.000If the pessimists want to say, well, we can't hold the House and the Senate, you know, is going to be a battle.
00:51:13.000My answer to that is it doesn't matter, right?
00:51:15.000We have to build permanent infrastructure in 2026.
00:51:19.000We have to compete in 2026 if we want to be competitive for the White House in 2028, which everybody agrees that's what we're focused on.
00:51:29.000But in the meantime, what are we doing?
00:51:31.000Look, we're never going to move the needle more than five points with any of our ground game efforts, with any of our door to door, with any of the Commit 100 programs.
00:51:39.000And I don't mean that as a bad thing, right?
00:51:41.000But like to think to yourself, hey, We're going to be the ones that can control.
00:51:46.000No, look, we can't control a lot of things.
00:51:47.000We can't control the messaging of a lot of these campaigns.
00:51:51.000We can't control some of the outside forces of what the left puts up or what the actual message of the day is.
00:51:57.000But what we can control is do we match the Democrats' tactics?
00:52:01.000Do we go and fight fire with fire to do what we're doing?
00:52:06.000Turning Point, Citizens Alliance, we're one of the only two groups and a couple other partners that understand the value of putting boots on the ground, paid staff.
00:52:16.000Volunteers, everyone out there, book your vacation now.
00:52:20.000Come to Nevada, come to Arizona, come to New Hampshire, tpaction.com/slash 100.
00:52:26.000This is what it's about: not coming up with excuses or reasons to not get involved.
00:52:31.000It is going to be a battle for the midterms, but that's why we're operating this plan.
00:52:35.000That's why we're launching Commit 100 again today, and we're honored to be a part of it.
00:52:40.000Yeah, and the exciting part about this is that if you're on the East Coast, you have last election cycle, we only did this in Arizona and Wisconsin for the most part, and we had a few other states that we did it.
00:52:51.000A little bit of Nevada, a little bit of Michigan as well.
00:52:54.000But on the East Coast, we now have New Hampshire.
00:52:56.000So if you're on the East Coast, if you're in the Northeast, there's a lot of New Yorkers, a lot of New Englanders who have said, Hey, I'd like to.
00:53:22.000And Polling is coming back right now that's looking very good for Republicans, especially in these three states.
00:53:30.000And so, everyone, but we need everyone, just like Cliff said, to show up and to do what the Democrats are going to do, which we know they're going to chase every vote that they possibly can.
00:53:40.000Well, in New Hampshire, for people that aren't aware, has more registered Republicans than Democrats.
00:53:46.000It's the Indy vote, right, in the middle that tends to get, you know, become, you know, I think the defining vote in that state.
00:53:53.000But when you have so many Republicans that aren't just showing up in New Hampshire, the return on investment, the return on man hours and volunteers is huge.
00:54:30.000Everybody should remember this moment.
00:54:32.000Look, I'm going to echo Charlie from earlier.
00:54:35.000Remember where you were when this happened.
00:54:37.000Remember where you were when you realized that the Uniparty and all of these, you know, just the establishment, you said it's time to actually participate.
00:56:20.000Last week, we got the bad news that Francesca Hong was not who we're going up against in that state.
00:56:27.000That's no reason to be less bullish about Tom Tiffany.
00:56:31.000Tom Tiffany's great, he's a great candidate.
00:56:34.000There's some great organizations that are working really hard in Wisconsin.
00:56:37.000And I would label that kind of like our fourth place state.
00:56:41.000We're focused on building the red wall because Wisconsin's part of the blue wall.
00:56:45.000And we know that the left is investing so heavily into that state, they need that state.
00:56:49.000They have no choice but to win that state.
00:56:52.000And so, part of the strategy that we're employing with Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire is that you have to build the red wall to compete with the blue wall that they need.
00:57:02.000Because if you are able to fracture, then even if they win that entire wall, then we still can win.
00:57:08.000You're creating a scenario where we hold a national presidential election in 28.
00:57:14.000And explain that to Tyler and Cliff how muscle memory, getting New Hampshire activated, Nevada activated, and Arizona activated for the long term is so important.
00:57:25.000Yeah, so the first thing is that 2028, again, we're looking at the current map.
00:57:30.000But remember, redistricting will happen for 2032.
00:57:33.000And so the map actually becomes even more positive for Republicans in most red states, which makes it even more reason why the left will have to maintain basically their entire map that they were winning with for about 20 years.
00:57:50.000So, Nevada and New Hampshire, part of their strategy is they kind of have to try to win Arizona.
00:57:57.000Or other states like Georgia, North Carolina, things like that, right?
00:58:03.000So, us winning that is statistically important for us.
00:58:06.000But then, states like Nevada and New Hampshire, they were counting on winning.
00:58:10.000They were counting on those becoming bluer, and that hasn't happened.
00:58:14.000They've actually, in many ways, become redder, where there's a Republican voter registration advantage, or there have been advantages over the last few years.
00:59:14.000This is the only show I feel comfortable or forced to go into my theater days, which I've tried to delete from my past in the internet.
00:59:22.000Look, I think I want to back up Tyler here.
00:59:25.000The cool thing about working with Turning Point and the vision here if we are to make all three of these states, Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire, red states, it's not just that we become extremely competitive, it's that the left cannot win a national election again in our lifetime.
00:59:44.000If we make all three of these states, Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire, red states, where we continuously win and trend red, the left is going to have to change their entire playbook.
00:59:55.000So, yes, turning points involved in states like Wisconsin, Citizens Alliance, we're still doubling down on states like Pennsylvania.
01:00:02.000But the reason that we're going all in on these three states is because it's going to force them to be uncomfortable.
01:00:08.000It's going to force them to have to move resources.
01:00:10.000So, anybody out there that is thinking, hey, listen, I want to block the communists, I want to stop the socialists.
01:00:45.000Look, we'd all love to flip some of these deep blue states.
01:00:49.000But at the end of the day, if you have a major organization and you have a decision to make on where you put resources, it is extremely important to understand what are your capabilities, what are your tactics for groups like Turning Point and Citizens Alliance.
01:01:04.000We know how to grow out and we know how to match the Democrats at knocking on doors and making an impact that way.
01:01:10.000Nevada, Arizona, New Hampshire are the keys to that success based on the rules, based on the Democrat resources, and based on redistricting, like Tyler said.
01:01:20.000So, this whole game plan is coming together, and I really am excited.
01:01:35.000You're going to be part of a community, and you're going to be part of helping us to push back, not just in 2026, but to be the reason we deliver the White House in November of 2028.
01:06:30.000So this is actually, turns out, Alex, a very sort of obscure economics talk because JD is like, you know, pretty smart, and he likes studying things like economics.
01:06:41.000And the resource curse is this it is, it's also called the paradox of plenty.
01:06:48.000So, this is a very, again, obscure economics talk.
01:06:51.000It's the observation that countries richly endowed with natural resources, especially non renewable ones like oil, natural gas, and minerals, often experience slower economic growth, weaker development outcomes, higher inequality, more corruption, et cetera, because they are reliant overly so on a strategic advantage.
01:07:09.000Right now, we were talking in the break again.
01:07:11.000You could make the same argument about the South during the Civil War.
01:07:14.000They were reliant on slave labor and they didn't want to get rid of that, but it actually resulted in less.
01:07:21.000Favorable outcomes economically for them.
01:07:23.000And when it came to war with the North, it was more industrialized, had greater advantages, right?
01:08:08.000I will talk economics, and we have a great economic newsletter, Breitbart, that I contribute to with John Carney called the Breitbart Business Digest.
01:08:46.000So it is all about stopping Vance from being president.
01:08:49.000And that always is deeply off putting to me because Vance is a super thoughtful person, even when you disagree with him, which is one of the things I love about him and one of the reasons why I've been a supporter of his since before he actually entered politics.
01:09:01.000Is because of this, because he's not a shoot from the hip guy.
01:09:04.000He's a guy who's a thinker who tries to think through this stuff.
01:09:08.000But I think if I'm trying to interpret Vance, and I don't know why he'd have to respond to this stuff, but if he chooses to, he's concerned that us having no industrial base, having no manufacturing base, is a massive concern for the country when it comes to political costs, when it comes to national security, when it comes to Americans not having an economy that is stable.
01:09:30.000And it just does encourage people to live beyond means and kind of inverts capital flows.
01:09:35.000There's so many objections that I think are kind of reasonable to this position.
01:09:39.000I would love to hear Vance's full take, but he's a guy who's always thinking about middle America.
01:09:43.000He's always thinking about a peace through strength approach and having a robust manufacturing base.
01:09:47.000And that's probably where this comes from.
01:09:49.000But again, we're plucking things out of context to politically assassinate a guy.
01:10:38.000The pain when we have to confront possibly losing reserve currency status, having to confront a debt crisis, will be a lot greater.
01:10:46.000It could be a very great, it could be cataclysmic in theory.
01:10:48.000Yeah, and I think that's such a good point.
01:10:50.000We have not been forced to take our medicine earlier, belt tighten, deal with some of the entitlement issues that are exploding the federal deficit year after year after year.
01:11:00.000And by the way, you know, a lot of people, Trump has, you know, been in favor of a weak dollar.
01:11:29.000Does it hollow out our industrial core?
01:11:32.000And what's ironic about this, too, Alex, without getting into wonky and the economics of it all, is that the dollar has lost 95% of its value since we became the reserve currency.
01:11:42.000So, you know, I think people intuitively say, oh, I want a strong dollar because it makes me feel like America's strong or something.
01:11:51.000But actually, president after president has pursued a weak dollar.
01:13:09.000If we're a country that makes things, then his argument makes a lot of sense.
01:13:13.000If we're just an economy and not a people and a homeland and a heritage, then his argument doesn't make sense.
01:13:18.000So a lot of people are actually showing their own ignorance if they're trying to just cherry pick attacks on an out of context clip from years ago on this.
01:13:26.000And it says more about the people sharing it because he's got a lot of, I think, really relevant things to say that are totally coherent here.
01:13:43.000We learned this from Teddy Roosevelt, who went trust busting.0.95
01:13:46.000We learned this from immigration, right?
01:13:49.000Businesses, laissez faire guys, would love mass immigration for cheap labor, but we rejected that.
01:13:54.000There are limitations, there are incentives that a government could and should probably put in place to incentivize capital flows in the right directions, long term investments in the country.
01:14:04.000I think that's what, you know, JD is getting at here, and I think it's totally fair and valid question to ask.
01:14:11.000All right, Alex, top of Breitbart right now, it's got like almost a thousand comments.
01:14:18.000Your Breitbart audience is eating it up.
01:14:20.000Reddit banned Sophie Cunningham's name from WNBA forum as men and women's sports controversy rages.
01:14:28.000Now, I haven't gotten you on any of this WNBA stuff, so I mean, there's the starting point, it's like, can men play in women's sports?
01:14:37.000Sophie Cunningham says no, then she gets.0.99
01:14:39.000Smacked in the face, and she's trying to defend Caitlin Clark.
01:14:42.000And then you got Royce White and Ennis Cantor Freedom declaring themselves eligible for the WNBA draft.1.00
01:14:48.000You got coaches defending the Dijon A mayonnaise mustard gal that like smacks her saying, hey, it was just a hard fat.0.71
01:14:55.000Like there is so much going on in the WNBA.
01:16:34.000It's like a work of fiction where you can just have players blatantly, egregiously fouling people, and the refs are like, didn't see nothing.
01:16:41.000It's like something you'd see in a movie.0.94
01:16:43.000You have creepy race angles, you have the trans angle.0.95
01:16:47.000I'm sure there's just going to be a political angle.1.00
01:16:53.000Are you saying that Vince McMahon is running the WNBA right now and we don't know?
01:16:57.000So, this is brilliant because I've been calling it reality TV because it does feel like no one cares about what's real.
01:17:04.000Just you get invited to the garden party and then everyone fights at the garden party and pokes their fingers in each other's eyes and yells about it.
01:17:11.000But this is better because you really do see there's the heel character, you know, there's all the cap fighting, there's the unfair referees where you step on one player's neck, it's not a foul.
01:17:20.000And then, you know, you tap someone on the shoulder and then you get thrown out of the game depending on the skin color of whoever's getting fouled.
01:17:25.000But I just want to say something really important because I got to call out you gentlemen for doing one of the most important interviews of the year with Roischa White.
01:17:34.000I had forgotten that black trans lives matter.
01:17:37.000And now I'm reminded that black trans lives matter.
01:17:41.000And I had not had that thought in a while.
01:17:44.000And you guys brought that back up to me.
01:18:07.000So, one thing that I've been calling for, and I was not as clever about marketing as Clay Travis has been, which is very gifted in this thing.
01:18:15.000So, but I've been saying for over a year what we need to do is one school, maybe like a low level Division I school, needs to step up and recruit all men for the girls' basketball team.
01:18:25.000And then they're going to win 150 to two every game, they're going to win by 100 points.
01:18:36.000The trans moment we've been obsessed with in this country will end that day that the men's team defeats the women in the championships after a 35 0 season, 150 2.0.97
01:18:47.000Once that happens, then we can move on from this.0.97
01:19:15.000Libs are powerless to defend against it, and they absolutely dominate the Olympics.1.00
01:19:19.000That would have helped, but we fell short.
01:19:21.000We didn't quite get that level of insanity in time.
01:19:23.000Well, but this story that's up on Breitbart right now is like legitimately wild.
01:19:28.000So the WNBA subreddit has banned the name of Indiana Fever Guard Sophie Cunningham from its forum.
01:19:37.000So in the WNBA subredit, you can no longer type out the word Sophie Cunningham or the name Sophie Cunningham.
01:19:44.000The forum's moderators will not allow users to use the word Cunningham, Sophie, Scunningham, Sophie, or Sophie, every possible variation.
01:19:54.000Because they're preventing users from posting about the 30 year old player even on her birthday, Alex, because apparently it's causing too much controversy and debate about transgender athletes in female sports.
01:20:07.000She's the most important athlete in the country right now for reasons like this because she's getting all of the people just to out themselves.0.94
01:20:16.000As anti free speech and embarrass themselves.
01:20:19.000So, I also do have an update to this story that you're going to hear first on the show because you've been working on this is that apparently the moderators are backpedaling now, but they're not going to let people post unless they have good standing in the community.
01:20:28.000So, you just can't come over there and write about Sophie Cunningham because you're inspired by her.
01:20:33.000So, they're just trying to control speech because woke is on the run.