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00:01:35.000You know, I just feel like we just need to have that ready to go every Monday because it seems like just about every weekend these days is quite a weekend.
00:01:43.000We've got Swalwell news, we've got Pope news, we've got Trump as Jesus news, we've got blockades in the Strait of Hormuz news, we've got all kinds of stuff.
00:01:53.000So, why don't we get right down to it?
00:01:55.000Blake, you have lined us up with a great guest to help explain this blockade after the peace negotiations broke down in Islamabad.
00:02:03.000Pakistan over the weekend with JD Vance leading the charge there.
00:02:12.000So we had this guy on right after the election to talk about the shipbuilding crisis of the U.S. Navy, which we're hopefully making some progress towards resolving.
00:02:26.000So, John is an expert on merchant marine shipping and he's had a lot of opinions.
00:02:32.000And right when this was announced, I messaged him and I asked what he thought of the president's plan to blockade the Strait of Hormuz, which we were previously concerned about Iran mining and blocking.
00:02:47.000But, John, why don't you just tell us what you make of it?
00:02:49.000Yeah, and I apologize for my casual attire today in the hotel room.
00:02:53.000There's the biggest naval conference. in the world next week in D.C.
00:02:57.000And before I headed out to there, I had to get out on the Pacific Ocean.
00:03:02.000I think a lot of these admirals and bureaucrats are stuck in the Pentagon in D.C.
00:03:07.000They don't remember the harsh environment of the ocean.
00:03:10.000They haven't been out there and tasted the salt water.
00:03:12.000So I wanted to get out there and I got a little sunburn on my nose.0.54
00:03:16.000But with the Strait of Hormuz, what's happening is the Iranians put some mines down.
00:03:24.000We don't think there are very many mines.
00:03:26.000but even a few mines is going to send the commercial shipping companies haywire because of insurance and the insurance ties to London.
00:03:37.000And they don't want to take those risks today.
00:03:40.000So some ships have been transiting through what people have been calling the Ayatollah tow booth, going through the way up north in the Strait of Hormuz, hugging the coast of Iran.
00:03:52.000But Iran's, I don't want to call it a parliament, a body of.
00:03:59.000Bureaucrats have said that they are going to toll the ships that go through the Strait of Hormuz going forward in the future.
00:04:09.000And this would have an inflationary impact on the entire world economy.
00:04:15.000So Trump announced yesterday that is not okay.
00:04:29.000So Trump says, hey, if If you're going to do that, we are going to blockade all ships going to and from Iran, choking off their economy and putting a lot of pressure on the regime.
00:04:44.000Okay, but I guess what do you think of first of all, are we able to do this safely?
00:06:10.000We think that this is the reason that Marines are probably there on their amphibious ships, that they can start boarding these ships and diverting them.0.99
00:06:20.000It is not Qatar, UAE, other ships from Europe and Asia that want to go in and get oil from other places in the Gulf.
00:06:32.000This is very specifically on ships going to Karg Island and potentially bringing weapons from places like Russia and China into Iran.
00:06:42.000All right, but I guess the rational thing, you say we have it open to neutral countries that aren't going to pay Iran's toll, but this doesn't necessarily get us closer to the issue because, in addition to mines, aren't we also worried that they could shell, shoot at these ships?
00:06:58.000And if they do that, are we able to protect them?
00:07:02.000Well, yes, I realize I didn't answer your last question.
00:07:05.000This is not as dangerous as people think.
00:07:08.000We have brand new mine sweeping ships, the littoral combat ships in the area.
00:08:30.000We think it's between seven and 10 to launch to actually hit a ship.
00:08:34.000And like I said, only one ship has been sunk.
00:08:38.000But these destroyers, the U.S. Navy destroyers, are excellent at shooting down these drones and missiles.
00:08:45.000When the destroyers were in the Red Sea, they were able to protect 100% of the ships that they convoyed.
00:08:53.000We know from President Trump's note that over 100 Drones and missiles were fired at our carrier in the beginning of war, and we shot down 100% of them.
00:09:04.000The problem is each destroyer only has 96 missiles.
00:09:09.000And once those run out, it can take two weeks to get to Diego Garcia, reload, and come back.
00:09:17.000So it wasn't a lack of capability that it was dangerous for the U.S. Navy to transit.
00:09:23.000It was we just did not have enough destroyers in the region.
00:09:27.000These are the world's best platforms, but we needed time to get more in.
00:09:31.000There was a great clip, Captain John Conrad, that I saw from.
00:09:37.000Tom Sauer on Fox this morning talking about the underwater drones that we have to get rid of these mines.
00:09:43.000I'm going to go ahead and play it and get your reaction to it.
00:09:47.000And in order to hunt for those mines, we've got some of the most sophisticated unmanned underwater vehicle technology that's led by EOD Mobile Unit 6.
00:09:58.000We've got some excellent technology, and there's even better technology that's on the way.
00:10:03.000So these are underwater drones that are actually going out.
00:10:08.000I guess hunting the mines, maybe, do they explode them ever?
00:10:39.000So, the first step in any mine clearing is you have to find out exactly where the mines are.
00:10:45.000So, we have these littoral combat ships.
00:10:47.000They send out these two remote control piloted boats that tow sonar arrays, like your fish finder, but on a bass boat, but a lot more advanced.
00:10:58.000And they're going to map where each of the mines are.
00:11:00.000And then they can send underwater drones to get a picture of it to go around and identify the type.
00:11:07.000And then, depending on the type, They can either send a sort of a kamikaze-like submarine drone to go and explode it, or they can send these UDT divers.
00:11:26.000And another fun fact is all of the explosive teams in the Army, in your local SWAT team, all the guys who deal with explosives, bomb disposal, They are all trained by the Navy UDT school in Florida.
00:11:43.000So these are the premier guys who it's one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, but they can actually dive down and try to either set explosives on the mine, swim away and explode it, or potentially disconnect the triggering fuse.
00:11:59.000Captain John Conrad from GCaptain.com.
00:12:03.000It seems like what I'm hearing you say is the naval vessels, the U.S. Navy vessels, can deal with the missile attacks as long as they can keep them reloaded, restocked, and that we can successfully sweep these mines and do this blockade.
00:12:20.000It seems like the military capacity is there.
00:12:23.000Am I hearing you that that would be your general assessment?
00:12:31.000particular campaign is they are going slow despite enormous pressure from the Europeans and others, particularly the kind of shipping cabal in London that runs this insurance and the International Maritime Organization, the UN body.
00:12:46.000They're pushing the military to go fast, but Trump is saying, let's go slow.
00:12:58.000Trump said, I believe it was last week, that only 10%, I believe less than 10% of U.S. military capabilities have been surged to the Persian Gulf.
00:14:10.000In this moment, until the strait gets cleared on U.S. oil?
00:14:13.000Well, the important thing is the Supreme Court tariff decision, I think, is absolutely critical to all of this.
00:14:21.000So, we all know the Supreme Court said that the tariffs were illegal, but they didn't say the president can't institute tariffs.
00:14:28.000They said he cannot use specific mechanisms.
00:14:31.000So, this is causing a major reset in tariff negotiations.
00:14:35.000We have to go back and renegotiate with each of these countries.
00:14:39.000And every day the strait's closed, and every day they're reliant on us for oil, natural gas, and other supplies kind of gives us better leverage on these trade negotiations.
00:14:52.000But the one country that is suffering the most from this is China.
00:15:15.000And we've given the green light to Ukrainians and other European nations.0.84
00:15:19.000We're not doing ourselves to go after Russian ships.
00:15:23.000There was a Russian LNG ship two weeks ago that exploded in the Gulf.
00:15:26.000I don't think we participated, but we're saying, hey, if other countries want to do that, go ahead.
00:15:32.000So we're getting a lot of political economic leverage in the entire world here.
00:15:40.000So, Captain John, when we had you on for the first time, it was right as the new administration was starting, and the topic was shipbuilding, military procurement.
00:15:49.000As you said, our biggest choke point in this obstacle with RAND, for example, is just our ability to make enough missiles to shoot stuff down.
00:15:55.000And similarly, I know another choke point is do we have enough ships to send them where we need them?
00:16:03.000Just tell us, in one minute, has there been progress on that in the first year and a half, roughly, of the Of the second Trump administration, or is there hope for additional progress?
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00:19:01.000Okay, so really quickly, we got to talk about.
00:19:04.000We're going to get to Swalwell in just a second, but we got to talk about what happened to Savannah Hernandez.
00:19:09.000She is a TPOSA Frontlines journalist, and she was brutally assaulted this weekend in Minneapolis.
00:19:18.000So this happened on April 11th, so two days ago.
00:19:21.000She was filming outside of the Whipple Federal Building, an ICE facility in Minneapolis, during an anti ICE protest.
00:19:29.000So she was getting B roll, she was doing it lawfully, when a gentleman named William Scott Kelly, known online as Da Woke Farmer, and already, by the way, under investigation for federal investigation for January 2026 incident when he stormed City's Church.
00:20:09.000The so next thing she knows, she's getting assaulted, screamed at, and then pushed to the ground violently by that gentleman right there, who we'll get to in just a second.
00:20:19.000That is Ostrushko, a gentleman named Chris Ostrushko.
00:20:27.000They shoved Savannah from behind, knocking her to the ground.1.00
00:20:30.000Paige Ostrushko blew a whistle aggressively in her ear at close range before making physical contact, and Diana Ostrushko participated in the mobbing and confrontation.0.99
00:20:55.000And then I called her a little bit later, got through.
00:20:57.000She was pretty shaken up, but just really upset as well that this happened.
00:21:01.000It should be peaceful to be able to go be an independent journalist on the ground and get B roll.
00:21:08.000You should not have your life at risk.
00:21:10.000And the fact that these thugs, these Quote unquote activists that are actually thugs and militants come after somebody like Savannah who does it the right way, who's minding her own business, was just trying to get B roll, should insult and inflame all of your anger.
00:21:31.000The Hennepin County Sheriff's Office has confirmed that the three Ostrushko family members will be charged by complaint in connection with the assault.
00:21:39.000A fourth individual, Lorenzo Amadeo Garcia, was arrested and booked for obstruction of the legal process.
00:23:54.000Like, I don't know if you saw this story.
00:23:56.000I'm sure you saw this story over the weekend if you have thoughts.
00:23:59.000The most important thing is, yeah, this shows exactly why it's so important the change we made in the White House, which is this sort of thing has been happening to citizen journalists like Savannah, like others.
00:24:13.000Ryan, who's the Asian guy who would go to all of the Antifa things?
00:24:26.000And it's always treated as no big deal.
00:24:29.000These people never face consequences for it.
00:24:32.000Sometimes you even end up with the government saying, oh, actually, we arrested you in an illegal way.
00:24:37.000And they'll make settlements with these people, give them money, basically bankroll them.
00:24:42.000And what's been going on in the background, we actually have the federal government for the first time has gotten serious convictions of Antifa.
00:24:49.000Activists, terrorists, whatever you want to call them.
00:24:53.000We actually can have confidence that something will happen to these people, whether it's at least bringing them up in court, making them have to defend themselves.
00:25:01.000But hopefully, yeah, we get convictions.
00:25:03.000We hold them accountable for this crap.
00:25:05.000Yeah, and here's the dirty little secret a lot of these judges, a lot of these prosecutors in Hennepin County, they don't care about Savannah Hernandez.
00:25:14.000They think of her as a troublemaker for trying to document anti-IS protests in Minneapolis.
00:25:25.000No, to Blake's point, this is why having a new administration in Washington, having an actual DOJ that wants to aggressively prosecute crime like this, vigilante streets, is so important.
00:25:40.000So I don't want to hear everybody whining all the time about, oh, I don't like what President Trump's doing.
00:25:44.000When it comes to this kind of stuff, what do you want?
00:25:59.000We're working, our in house legal team is working on making sure everything's all the I's are dotted and the T's are crossed here, giving her the best support we can.
00:26:08.000Our team is on it, as well as with security.
00:26:11.000So, rest assured, Turning Point is on it.
00:26:15.000And, anyways, we just pray for her safety.
00:26:46.000We're glad she's going to be okay, but this should not be a thing.
00:26:50.000And the fact that the left has so glorified.
00:26:55.000Violence against conservatives has so justified in their own minds that it's okay to go after a conservative journalist just because of the fact that she works with Turning Point or the fact that she believes differently than them.
00:27:58.000When they really feel us clinging to power hinges on this question, they're a little better about getting their ducks in a row, as it were.
00:28:10.000We love to hype up wow, you know, they're so scattered.
00:28:12.000There could be two Republicans who finish in the top two in this primary because there's only two Republicans and there's five or six or seven Democrats.
00:28:20.000And Democrats saw the same thing and said, we've got to get rid of one of these and we have stuff to take out.
00:28:29.000So, Swahwell has been accused, and I believe credibly accused, by multiple women of sexual assault, even rape allegations by former staffers.
00:29:45.000The White House press corps was surprised.
00:29:47.000It put the Democrats on defense because it made them have to answer the question do they really care about justice or do they really just want to get President Trump?
00:29:56.000Meanwhile, as I mentioned before, this Swalwell news has been hanging in the background for a long time.
00:30:45.000And I just condemn him and I'm going to take away my endorsement of Eric Swalwell.
00:30:50.000You had Adam Schiff saying similar things.
00:30:53.000Up and down the board, Democrats pounce.
00:30:56.000By the end of the weekend, there were 50 former staffers that called the allegations against Swalwell credible and they wanted to see justice done.
00:31:05.000Now you have Swalwell being called to resign from Congress.
00:31:09.000Dropping out of the gubernatorial race was not good enough.
00:31:12.000So now he is being, there's calls being made up and down the Democrat Party political apparatus in DC calling for him to step out of Congress.
00:31:23.000Now, to be clear, he denies these allegations, Blake.
00:31:26.000Of course, he denies them, but the allegations have been there for some time.
00:31:29.000Certainly, the Fang Fang allegations loom large over Swalwell's head and have for many years.
00:31:35.000And so, I believe that this was something that Melania Trump maybe inadvertently triggered for the Democrats.
00:31:44.000They were going to do it, it's just a matter of when she forced their hand.
00:31:53.000It's possible, but I think anything like this, and you look at the way it is, something strange about it, the fact that big pieces of it leaked out via Martin Shkreli, I thought that was really strange.
00:32:07.000I think it'll be, maybe we'll never know the full story of how this op came to be, but I'd love to know more about it.
00:32:14.000But I think the biggest reason they probably did it now is I think they've just had that steadily building.0.87
00:32:26.000And I think there's just that degree of ruthlessness that made them say, someone say, all right, we've just, we've got to pull it.
00:32:32.000We've got to do it because, and on top of that, it's good to be the governor of California.
00:32:38.000You get to be the head of, as we know, we're going to have Chris Ruffo on later this week.
00:32:42.000It is the biggest pile of corruption, probably, arguably, in the entire world that you can control this patronage pie to give out billions in Medicaid funds, billions here, billions there.
00:32:54.000You run a giant funnel of money from the federal government and from the suckers who still live there.
00:33:58.000And the fact, here's my last point on the Swalwell op.
00:34:02.000I mean, because it was ruthless and brutal and absolutely coordinated.
00:34:08.000Make no ifs, ands, or buts about that.
00:34:10.000But here's what's interesting as well, Blake.
00:34:13.000In the Democrat Party, if you are a straight white male that has some compromise on you, if there is Oppo research on you, they will absolutely take you out without a second thought if you get in the way.
00:34:27.000You will become expendable as quickly as humanly possible.
00:34:31.000And, you know, This is a point that Danny made on our team.
00:35:07.000It's something you love to point out that he's the most hated man in the world.
00:35:11.000He has the most enemies of anyone in the world.
00:35:14.000Certainly, the most resources have gone into his destruction of anyone in the world.
00:35:19.000And then when you look at what they've offered up, they've offered up those extremely flimsy harassment cases that they ran with, with Eugene Carroll.
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00:38:11.000But first, President Trump just sort of, you know, he called an audible over the weekend, attacks the Pope, Pope Leo, and then posts a now an infamous meme, an AI generated meme of him as Jesus.
00:39:37.000Now, like the little powerful hands there that he's got in that photo, to me, it seems like that he is doing the comparison to our Messiah.
00:39:44.000And I'll tell you what, when I first saw the picture, I just, I hated it.
00:39:58.000I take everything that Trump posts on social media with a grain of salt.
00:40:02.000You know, I know that he's trolling, I know that he's messing around.
00:40:04.000And here's the thing I know that, well, here's the thing.
00:40:08.000I don't know Donald J. Trump's heart, but he does not strike me as the type of man who is in love with his Savior Jesus, the type of man who is in full submission to Jesus Christ and his law, who wakes up every morning and goes to the Word of God as his ultimate and infallible authority.
00:40:25.000He doesn't strike me as that kind of guy.
00:40:27.000So, I'm not necessarily expecting him to behave like a regenerate Christian.0.72
00:40:30.000This is the kind of thing that I would expect from, you know, like Trump is kind of a 90s Democrat, which in today's terms is, you know, you're a radical far right extremist because of the way the Overton window has shifted so much.0.60
00:40:45.000And I think it's good for us as Christians to voice that and make it very clear that, hey, we are not going to accept blasphemy from our president.
00:40:57.000I'm very thankful for so many of the things that Trump has done.
00:41:01.000In fact, I believe that he has done more for Christians than any other president in my lifetime, which he kind of outlined in his post where that picture originally came out.
00:41:09.000So I can be thankful for that, but I can also call him to account and say, hey, this is not acceptable.
00:41:13.000El Jefe, we do not want blasphemy on our X feeds from our civil magistrate, the highest civil magistrate in our land, the president of the United States.
00:41:24.000So that's kind of where I'm at with this whole thing.
00:43:15.000It's one thing for the Pope to say things that agree with progressives, but what's been annoying with this one is he does say them in ways that basically just sound indistinguishable from, let's just say it, like angry libs on the internet.
00:43:28.000I mean, he says this about, I think he may have literally said, like, no human is illegal or something comparable to that on migration stuff.
00:43:36.000He's planning to go to Lampedusa in the Mediterranean on the 4th of July, which is where a bunch of the migrants from Africa land while going into Europe.
00:43:46.000Bishops and cardinals coming out and saying, Yeah, the president's policies on immigration are bad because turnout at mass has gone down.0.59
00:43:54.000And it's like rational to ask, Okay, well, how many of those guys are telling any of their parishioners that they have a duty to obey the laws that tell them they shouldn't illegally be in America?
00:46:11.000But I appreciate Donald Trump so much for all that he's done for Christians.
00:46:16.000However, I want to issue this warning from scripture because you mentioned exactly what I have noticed as well, which is even his thought process may not have been blasphemy.
00:46:37.000Put on his royal robes, took his seat upon the throne, and delivered an oration to the people.
00:46:42.000And the people were shouting, The voice of God, the voice of God, not a man.
00:46:46.000Immediately, an angel of the Lord struck him down because he did not give glory to God, and he was eaten by worms and breathed his last.
00:46:55.000Now, I read that because I really like Donald Trump, and I want him to, I want to see him in heaven.
00:47:00.000I want to enjoy company with him in eternity.
00:47:04.000And so, my hope and prayer for him is that he would hear this warning to see what happens whenever.
00:47:08.000We try to soak up the glory for ourselves and we don't give it to our maker because honestly, I believe that the only way that we can heal our nation is not with Christless conservatism, but we must look to Jesus Christ and give glory and honor to him.
00:47:30.000So we were talking about this on the phone the other day.
00:47:33.000And I'm kind of pulling from an episode of Orrin McIntyre's show that if you haven't checked him out, guys, he's awesome.
00:47:41.000I really appreciate him and his guests.
00:47:43.000They laid out a taxonomy that I'm going to kind of help.
00:47:47.000Well, I've kind of aped it for myself and kind of been using it lately.
00:47:51.000So, essentially, if we want to understand what's going on in the conservative movement, this conservative civil war, as it were, the podcast wars, it's helpful to have categories.
00:48:16.000And then we've got, well, they call them the maroons.0.61
00:48:18.000I'm going to call them the accelerationists.0.98
00:48:20.000For those of you who don't know, the term accelerationism is basically the idea that we are going to accelerate the tensions in our country so that it all comes crumbling down.
00:48:30.000We burn it down so that we can rebuild something good and true from the ashes, right?
00:48:42.000Now, what I would say is, That okay, and we can put people in those categories too.
00:48:47.000Um, so people can kind of wrap their mind around it.
00:48:49.000So the neocons that's your like your Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz types.
00:48:54.000Uh, they're going to be super Zionists, very you know, they're going to be uh hawks, war hawks.
00:48:59.000Um, and uh, they're going to be uh, yeah.0.92
00:49:02.000So we've got the neocons, then we've got the the patriots or the plan trusters.
00:49:07.000And they are a very important part of coalition.
00:49:10.000Now, what I would argue is that MAGA, the coalition that really got Trump elected, and really the coalition that is going to be the future of this country, if we're to have a future with light at the end of the tunnel anyway, it's going to be the plan trusters, the patriots, and the dissidents.
00:49:27.000So, in the plan truster category, that would have been like Charlie Kirk.
00:50:26.000They're not jumping off the Trump train entirely.
00:50:29.000They are holding out hope, let's say, that they can, by holding their politicians or the administration's feet to the fire, they can kind of steer the administration.
00:50:40.000And then you've got the accelerationists.
00:50:42.000That would be like the Fuentes types, the ones who say it's all broken, it's all corrupt.
00:50:46.000It's so bad that we literally have to vote for Democrats.
00:50:51.000Now, what I would say is what's going on right now is there is a concerted effort from both sides from the accelerationists on the far right and then the neocons, which are just basically classical liberals who, you know, the progressives want to drive our country off a cliff at 90 miles an hour.
00:51:09.000The neocons want to go 35 miles an hour, but they're going to the same place.
00:51:29.000They're all just like Candace Owens, right?1.00
00:51:31.000They're all just like all the Fuentes.1.00
00:51:33.000They want to label any dissident and they want to basically tie the Candace Owens noose around their neck and say it's just like they're just like them, but they're not just like them, right?0.83
00:51:44.000And so they're trying to peel them off and bring them over to the neocon side.
00:51:49.000I believe that this is actually very intentionally being done because they know, the neocons know that if the patriots and the dissidents get together and form a coalition, that we could win.
00:51:59.000We could actually win, but separate, we will lose to the neocons.
00:52:03.000They have so much institutional power.
00:52:05.000They have so much, yeah, institutional power, frankly, and money.
00:52:09.000And yeah, so anyway, and then the accelerationists are doing the same thing on the other side.
00:52:13.000They're telling the dissidents, like, look, Trump is bringing us into the foreign wars just like he said he wouldn't.
00:52:29.000I think this is really helpful just a structuring, a framing ideologically to understand that both sides want to sort of like.
00:52:38.000Peel apart the center of the coalition.
00:52:41.000And by the way, they want the Patriots, the plan trusters, which would be like a Michael Knowles, which would be, like you said, what Charlie, the role kind of Charlie played before, to be labeled as a neocon.
00:52:53.000So when we actually trust a little bit and give President Trump a little leash, a little leeway to get stuff done in Iran, oh, you're a neocon, right?
00:53:02.000Whereas the accelerationists want to peel off the Matt Walsh and see, like, hey, we told you so.
00:53:07.000He's just going to get us embroiled in another foreign conflict.
00:53:11.000The core remains the core, and it's super important.
00:53:13.000And I think it's important to understand the motivations of each of the four different buckets that you laid out so you can understand the news as it's coming to you and you can kind of, you know, chew the meat and spit out the bones, as it were.
00:53:25.000Blake, I haven't got you in on this thought.
00:53:28.000This is new for you, but I don't know if you have thoughts on this.
00:53:32.000I mean, nothing really too much to add.
00:54:00.000They'll probably ban me again, but I'll just keep going on there and getting banned again just because it's fun to go through that process again and again.
00:54:06.000But yeah, you can follow me all over the socials.
00:54:08.000No, you see, here's why I like this is why I like you, because I would put you in the dissident category.
00:54:17.000I probably am right between dissident and patriot, depending on the issue.
00:54:21.000And the truth is that our students are dissidents.
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00:56:13.000I want to welcome to the show a guy that I have been following a lot online, and he's got a new book that is really, really timely and important, I believe.
00:56:45.000Well, I call it my why do I get stopped at the airport discussion.
00:56:50.000And whenever I go to the airport and someone kind of recognizes me and they're gracious enough to come over and say something that they liked about maybe a real idea or some piece of content, I've noticed that a lot of it is surrounding this question of masculinity, of being a husband, being a father, being a soldier, all of those things.
00:57:09.000And so I sat down, I was like, you know, I'm just going to write out some of the things that I've learned over, you know, 27 years of marriage, 22 years of being a father.
00:57:18.000My time in special forces, being in the legislature.
00:57:23.000It's everything from how to successfully argue with your wife, which I stand by that title, by the way.
00:57:29.000You can successfully argue with your wife, to kind of the difference between raising sons and daughters and the different things that they need from dad.
00:57:38.000Two other things that are a little bit more lighthearted, like how to properly cook a steak.
00:57:42.000Spoiler alert, anything above medium is just burnt and destroyed.
00:57:47.000And other practical things too, like how to properly kick in a door.
00:57:51.000Not just because it looks cool, because you never know when you might have to rescue a family member from a burning building.
00:57:55.000And you want to make sure you do it right and look cool in the process.
00:57:58.000So, a lot of these things I've learned again, a lot of them from doing the right thing, but a lot of them too from doing the wrong thing and learning from it.
00:58:06.000Wait, what is the right way to kick in a door?
00:58:19.000And then you want to hit it right by kind of where the base plate meets with the door, with the lock.
00:58:24.000Plate meets with the door kind of just under the knob.
00:58:27.000You want to kick it right there because that gives you the best way to actually break it at its weakest point and swing it open.
00:58:32.000You kick in the middle of a door, especially one of these like you know hollow core doors, your legs are gonna go right through it and you're gonna look like a moron.
00:58:47.000I was saying that oh, it was uh, Jonathan Keeperman Lomez, and we're talking about the political side of what it means to be an adult, be a man.
00:58:56.000And how much of our politics seems to, and you could take this into cultural commentary, you could take this into church debates, you could take this into all the different areas that you kind of delve into on your Instagram and your YouTube, which, by the way, are must follows, in my opinion.
00:59:11.000I think you're doing a great job, Nick.
00:59:14.000But it just feels like this infantilization of American discourse where we're getting, it's like the quality and the thoughtfulness of the debate is going down.
00:59:26.000The quality of the and the thoughtfulness of our disagreements and the way we handle them are degrading, they're devolving, they're not getting more elevated.
00:59:34.000And I just happen to think that a lot of people need to be called up higher.
00:59:38.000We need to be calling people up to be an adult, to behave like an adult in public, to behave like an adult when you're a politician, when you're a congressman, when you're at the state level, like you've done in Virginia.
00:59:52.000Is that sort of a core problem that you're noticing?
00:59:55.000Yeah, there are five categories that I kind of talk about with masculinity.
00:59:59.000That's the most important, which is your spiritual, your relationship with God.
01:00:02.000It's where you get your identity, your sense of objective morality, objective truth.
01:00:07.000But then there's also the emotional, the physical, the professional, and the intellectual.
01:00:11.000And one of the things I tell guys in this book is that it's really important that as a man, you be seen as being capable of giving wise counsel.
01:00:18.000It doesn't mean you need to be a subject matter expert in every topic, nobody can achieve that.
01:00:23.000But if you want to be the sort of guy that your children think that they can go to and get wisdom, then you need to continue to develop yourself intellectually.
01:00:30.000And one of the things that you do that with is critical thinking.
01:00:33.000It's through argument, it's through debate, it's through not getting caught up in just ad hominem attacks or just screaming or yelling at people or insisting that we're going to do it this way because I said so.
01:00:43.000The better job you can do explaining your positions, your values, your belief, the more likely, I mean, forget the random arguments you're going to have on X, right?
01:00:51.000Those can be fun sometimes, they can be distracting other times.
01:00:54.000I wanted to make sure that the things that I held the most dear in my life, I could properly explain to my kids, that I could teach them how to defend it, that I could answer tough questions that they might come home with.
01:01:04.000And I always wanted them to see dad as a person that they knew was going to give them the truth, but was also going to be able to explain it in a way that made sense to them.
01:01:12.000Because the goal is not to just tell them to believe what I believe because I say so.
01:01:16.000The goal is to adequately equip your children so that when they leave your house, the beliefs that you handed to them are now theirs.
01:01:23.000They believe in them not because dad said so, they believe in them because they're true.
01:01:26.000And you're not going to be able to do that if you're engaging in the sort of debate that we see too much on social media these days, or it's just yell louder or make little quips or whatever it is.
01:01:36.000You need to be intellectually rigorous in your pursuits if you're going to be the sort of man that other men and your children and your wife can trust.
01:01:43.000And I love that on the cover of your book here, Nick, and apologies as I look down, but it's that you have flirt with your wife, make a stake, go to church, win a fight.
01:01:58.000This doesn't seem very Christian here, Nick, but I actually disagree with what I just said.
01:02:02.000But I would love for you to talk about that.0.90
01:02:04.000Yeah, choose a whiskey, run for office, and kick down a door.
01:02:09.000Yeah, explain that because winning a fight, I think I was asked to sort of disavow President Trump as a podcast a couple months ago, and it was kind of about his more muscular tone and style.
01:02:21.000Gosh, that debate has come back to the fore today with some of his comments about the Pope, about his Jesus meme, and all that stuff.
01:02:28.000But explain that, why sometimes we misunderstand that masculine Christianity and sometimes the tendency is to feminize these things.
01:02:37.000Well, no, we have this tendency in the West because we've elevated tolerance as like the chief ethic in our society.
01:02:44.000We have this boy band vision of Jesus that we preach in our churches that is quite frankly, it's heretical.
01:02:49.000It's not just incorrect, it is so incorrect as to be heresy.
01:02:53.000Now, was Jesus kind and compassionate?
01:03:01.000And he was willing to use judicious violence when necessary.
01:03:04.000When he went into the temple and he's throwing over tables and he's using a whip to kick people out, I guarantee you they were not thinking that was tolerant Jesus.
01:03:13.000And yet he was still righteous in doing so.
01:03:16.000Because of the reasoning behind it and because of who was actually the subject of his anger.0.98
01:03:20.000And so it's important for Christian men to understand that you have an obligation to be dangerous, not for your families, not toward the innocent, right?0.93
01:03:31.000You have an obligation to be able to protect and provide.
01:03:33.000How are you able to effectively do that if you're not capable of being dangerous?
01:03:37.000If you're the sort of man that can't win a fight, right, then that's the sort of man whose wife, whose children, whose community has to depend on other men to protect them.
01:03:48.000And you're not going to see that anywhere in the gospel.
01:03:51.000Yeah, there's times when men are called to sacrifice, but they're called to sacrifice for something great, not because that's their only option.
01:03:58.000They're called to sacrifice because they need to actually defend something that's worth defending.
01:04:03.000And quite frankly, I think right now, young men are at a point where they're completely rejecting this woke feminist approach.
01:04:08.000They do not buy the lie that masculinity is toxic.
01:04:11.000But by the same token, they're not satisfied with this answer that you've got to be strong and bold so you can just get whatever you want.
01:04:24.000And in order to be noble, in order to be honorable, you want to work to develop yourself intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and yes, physically.
01:04:32.000You want to be physically capable of protecting the people that you love.
01:04:35.000And so, this idea that to be a Christian is to be weak is, again, it's not just incorrect.
01:04:40.000It's so incorrect as to be heretical, in my opinion.
01:04:42.000Well, I think you're getting to the core here.
01:04:47.000But the core here is that we see this with young men when they kind of give in to nihilism, this opt out culture.
01:04:56.000Explain we just have about a minute and a half in this segment, but how do you talk to men when they're prone to opting out, the burn it all down vibe?
01:05:06.000What is the key to getting them to re engage?
01:05:08.000Well, the first thing I do is I admit to young men that they're actually dealing with a very unique point in history because never before in world history, even when things have been bad, have you seen this sort of assault on masculinity and the things that masculinity prizes.
01:05:21.000But the only way to defeat that is to stand up and choose to be something else.
01:05:25.000You have to choose to be the hard man in the weak times that will bring about the good times.
01:05:32.000And the number one way that I have seen it throughout my life when things have been good, when things have been bad, is I don't get my identity in being a Green Beret.
01:05:39.000I don't get my identity in being a business owner or a former member of the House of Delegates.
01:05:52.000And I see that reflected daily in the eyes of my wife and my children.
01:05:56.000And that's what I want young men to embrace.
01:05:58.000I want them to actually stand up and be the sort of men that God calls them to be because those are the sort of men that will save this country.
01:06:28.000You've got millions of followers on social media.
01:06:31.000You get to see the comments, especially on your YouTube and your Instagram.
01:06:35.000By the way, I just totally recommend people check you out there because you drop these little reels, and I think the wisdom in there is profound.
01:07:54.000They either tell women you've got to be like a super girl boss, feminist girl boss, I don't need no man, or they tell women you got to be this like 1950s housewife aesthetic.
01:08:58.000It wasn't because we had everything modeled for us, and it wasn't because we did everything right every step of the way, but we believed what God said about who we were, both as a man and as a woman, and we believed in God who said we were as a married couple and then as parents.
01:09:12.000And I just, the most beautiful thing about it is this.
01:09:51.000That's, that's a really good testimonial.
01:09:53.000And I think, yeah, you said you got married 19 and 20.
01:09:57.000I think similarly, one of my sisters got married at, I believe she just turned 21.
01:10:03.000And I think that's, Worked out tremendously for them when you're building your life together.
01:10:08.000But I guess, you know, the obvious follow up is what's your advice to, let's be frank, a lot of people like me, people who get into their 20s, their 30s, they're still not married, they aren't building from that base level at an early point.
01:10:22.000I think a lot of people, they feel somewhat amiss if they're that far into it and they're not sure where to start building up.
01:10:31.000I think part of it is making it a priority.
01:10:33.000Like, if you've made up, like, I want to get married, then what I tell both men and women is you have to think about, okay, who do I want to marry?
01:10:41.000What sort of person do I want to be married to?
01:10:43.000Like, for me, it was like, I want to be married to a Christian woman that wants to be a wife, that wants to be a mother, that shares values, that is also ambitious in the things that we want to do as a married couple.
01:11:05.000And then, two, where am I spending my time?1.00
01:11:07.000Am I actually putting myself in the proximity where such women are likely to be?
01:11:12.000So, once I do those two things, once I'm continually working on being the sort of man that would attract that sort of woman, or whether or not someone is working to be the sort of woman that I would attract that sort of man, put yourself in proximity.0.51
01:11:22.000And then, the other thing, too, for young men out there, I think modern dating is garbage.
01:11:27.000I think when you are actually looking for the sort of wife that you can build a whole family with, I think you need to be honest about your intentions and say, Look, I'm not here, I'm not going to try to play with your mind, your heart, or your body.
01:11:47.000If, as we talk about what we look at our future lives like, as we talk about what you'd like to achieve, what I'd like to achieve, if we get excited about that conversation, great, let's continue it and see where this leads.
01:11:58.000And if we don't, or if we discover that we have very, very different things in life, I'm not going to bug you anymore.
01:12:03.000We're just going to agree that we're good friends.
01:12:04.000We're not meant to be a married couple.
01:12:06.000And what that does is, one, it relieves her the burden of being worried on whether or not you're going to, you know, Continue to pursue when she's not interested, but it also tells her what you're about as a man and you're not there to play games.
01:12:19.000You're serious and you want to find your wife.
01:12:21.000And I've seen this work firsthand for people.
01:12:23.000And I think it's the direction we need to go.
01:12:25.000We need to reject what the modern world says about dating, what it says about sex, what it says about all those things, and start actually embracing what works.
01:12:32.000Nick, I'm going to throw a little bit of a curveball to you here.
01:12:38.000Author of the Man Book, really, really important.
01:12:40.000Final question What do you say to those men that have given in to sort of I guess scapegoat culture, whether it's all about the Jews or they want to, the accelerationists, they want to burn it all down, vote Democrats so they can build up something more pure in this country.
01:13:04.000I think what it comes down to is that on some degree, on some level, they're going to have to recognize what they've done is they've surrendered.
01:13:11.000And I get that it can be tough and it can be frustrating.
01:13:14.000And there's a part of them that probably thinks, well, once it all burns down, then they'll miss me.
01:13:19.000Then they'll wish that they had the things that I was trying to bring to society.
01:13:24.000What I'm going to say is that never works out.
01:13:26.000That never works out the way you think.
01:13:28.000Accelerationism doesn't work out the way you think.
01:13:30.000What we need is for more men to stand up and be an example.
01:13:33.000Think about who you admire in your own circle.
01:13:36.000Do you admire the people that just lay down and take it?
01:13:38.000Do you admire the people that try to burn it down with you?
01:13:41.000Or do you admire the people that stand up against all odds and fight?
01:13:45.000Because it is the honorable and noble thing to do.
01:13:48.000And that's what I think you need to reach for.
01:13:49.000You need to reach for the honorable version of you that is fighting for that opportunity to serve God, to be able to serve your family, to serve your country.
01:13:57.000Because those are the things that I think give us true meaning and purpose.
01:14:00.000All this other stuff, it may feel good in the moment, but it ends up leaving you feel, it ends up, one of the worst forms of depression you can ever find is not when you are denied the things that you think you want or that you're owed.
01:14:11.000The worst depression is when you actually get the things that you are striving for and you find out it leaves you empty.
01:14:17.000Find your identity in Christ first and never doubt what your meaning and purpose is.