The Charlie Kirk Show - The Pressure is On Pennsylvania For a Trump Victory

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00:01:29.000 Blake is co-piloting here, and this is it, everybody.

00:01:32.000 This is the final push.

00:01:33.000 We are four days out.

00:01:34.000 Can you believe it, Blake?

00:01:35.000 And this is the longest election I've ever been part of.

00:01:38.000 This election has been going pretty much since the last one ended.

00:01:41.000 It really has been four years, and we have four days left.

00:01:45.000 Needless to say, everybody, if you haven't voted, you need to go vote.

00:01:48.000 In fact, right now, I just chased another ballot.

00:01:50.000 There's somebody in Arizona that was like, I don't know if I'm going to go vote.

00:01:52.000 And I said, oh, no, you're going to go vote.

00:01:54.000 And we had a very stern conversation on my morning walk, and I just sent them the address, and boom!

00:01:58.000 Plus one for Trump in Arizona.

00:02:00.000 Look everybody, I recently went viral yesterday, or a couple days ago, for saying, look, the early vote is a little bit tilting feminine.

00:02:09.000 Now mind you, this is to be expected.

00:02:12.000 Young ladies and women in particular tend to be more compliant with paperwork and very interested in the micro.

00:02:20.000 And understand, one of the differences between men and women is that men are more focused on the macro and women are more focused on the micro.

00:02:26.000 Men tend to procrastinate more. 0.68

00:02:28.000 And the data shows that they will always show up later on Election Day.

00:02:32.000 However, there is a risk involved in that, isn't that, Blake?

00:02:35.000 Because what if you have a 1% male decrease?

00:02:38.000 1% could just hand the entire election to come in.

00:02:41.000 Yeah, everything here is won and lost on the margins.

00:02:46.000 I like to say, basically each candidate has 45% of the vote entirely locked in, and so something that affects only half a percent of the vote, a quarter of the percent of the vote, is actually a much larger share of the vote that is actually up for grabs in the race.

00:03:01.000 And so you can't do these things that just throw away a percent here, a percent there.

00:03:05.000 That loses you the election, or it can win the election.

00:03:08.000 It is all about get driving turnout these next couple of days.

00:03:12.000 And right now, Mikey and our team just said, finally got this couple.

00:03:15.000 They're first time voting.

00:03:16.000 They keep on making excuses.

00:03:18.000 I told them I'm driving them at 5 p.m.

00:03:21.000 today.

00:03:21.000 And one of them voted for Biden in 2020.

00:03:23.000 That is the way.

00:03:24.000 Just like, go find first time voters.

00:03:26.000 They were Biden voters.

00:03:27.000 Get them in the car.

00:03:28.000 We're going.

00:03:29.000 That is how you get new voters.

00:03:32.000 And understand, we are getting closer and closer to game day where, look, I'm not going to go state by state.

00:03:38.000 I'm going to make predictions.

00:03:39.000 I'm not going to make predictions.

00:03:40.000 However, it's fair to say, Blake, if we win Pennsylvania, the likelihood of us winning at this point is very high.

00:03:46.000 Is that a fair analysis?

00:03:47.000 It is emerging as...

00:03:49.000 In any model you run, it is by far the most important state where you say, if the candidate wins this, they are more likely to win the race.

00:03:56.000 I think...

00:03:56.000 In like 85% of projections or so, the winner of Pennsylvania ends up winning the race on Nate Silver and such.

00:04:03.000 And that's because North Carolina and Georgia have been looking fine.

00:04:06.000 I wouldn't say they look great.

00:04:07.000 They look fine in early voting, but we need to have a big election day in North Carolina.

00:04:11.000 No slacking in any state.

00:04:12.000 There's no slacking allowed anywhere whatsoever.

00:04:15.000 I want to repeat this for those of you keeping score at home.

00:04:19.000 Coming up on Tuesday, if we have a sleepy Tuesday, Kamala Harris wins. 1.00

00:04:24.000 If we have an average Tuesday, we are going to have a knife fight of 10,000 votes here, 10,000 votes there, and Kamala might squeak it out. 1.00

00:04:31.000 But if we have a triumph, if we have a historic surge on Tuesday, then mind you, a lot of you guys deserve credit.

00:04:40.000 You've done the work early.

00:04:41.000 You've gotten low props out early.

00:04:43.000 And that's what's so beautiful about early voting, everybody, is I don't have to worry about those people now coming into Tuesday.

00:04:48.000 Those are crossed off a list.

00:04:50.000 For all of you that got first-time voters already, and there are tens of thousands of you, how awesome is it now?

00:04:55.000 You don't have to worry about them on Tuesday.

00:04:57.000 You can go find another one.

00:04:58.000 You can go find another low-propensity voter.

00:05:01.000 You can now go nag somebody else. 0.99

00:05:02.000 Now, it is really becoming battleground Pennsylvania.

00:05:06.000 Do you have some of those numbers, Blake?

00:05:07.000 If not, I can approximate them.

00:05:09.000 I want to just walk through this, everybody, because if you've ever been to Pennsylvania, you have a friend there, if you live there, by the way, if you live in New Jersey, you live in New York, if you live anywhere in the Eastern Corridor, get in a car with your family and go have breakfast in a random diner in Scranton, wear a MAGA hat, be there for an hour and talk to 100 people.

00:05:25.000 I'm not kidding.

00:05:26.000 The whole civilization is around the Keystone State right now.

00:05:31.000 So, Blake, walk us through the numbers.

00:05:33.000 Alright, so, first of all, I just kind of, big picture, one reason we're going to be talking about this that we want to emphasize, Pennsylvania is where we can do, have the most impact right now.

00:05:44.000 In Arizona, I think over half the vote is in, or around that, maybe more.

00:05:48.000 Yeah, we're waiting for the latest drop.

00:05:51.000 I think like 85% of the election will be in.

00:05:54.000 This is the smartest point.

00:05:55.000 It'll be in by election day.

00:05:56.000 In a lot of states, we have a very high early vote volume.

00:05:59.000 In Pennsylvania, it's proportionally quite a bit lower.

00:06:02.000 We've talked about this a bit in private.

00:06:04.000 Pennsylvania has weird rules.

00:06:05.000 Voting in person early.

00:06:08.000 It's cultural, but also.

00:06:09.000 Voting in person on election day is like culturally.

00:06:12.000 There's a bit of the cultural, but also it's just it is hard to vote in person early in Pennsylvania.

00:06:17.000 That's why we had that mess in Bucks County.

00:06:19.000 Like you have to go to the county building.

00:06:20.000 You have to fill out basically the mail ballot application and then they'll like do the whole application and then they'll give you your ballot and you have to fill it out right there.

00:06:28.000 It's a it's a process.

00:06:30.000 So what I'm saying is, in states where we have very robust early voting, like Arizona, we've been running ahead of Democrats.

00:06:37.000 It's great.

00:06:38.000 Pennsylvania, we are down there.

00:06:40.000 And they're getting optimistic about this.

00:06:43.000 Right now, the numbers about now are Democrats have 947,000 early votes in, in Pennsylvania.

00:06:51.000 Republicans have about 553,000.

00:06:53.000 So that's just under 400,000 vote gap.

00:06:56.000 However, in 2020, it was 1.1 million.

00:06:59.000 It was 1.1 million.

00:07:00.000 So it's much closer than it was before.

00:07:02.000 That doesn't mean, oh, we made a gain of 600,000 because you have to figure we have taken some Election Day voters and moved them early.

00:07:08.000 That's just how it is.

00:07:10.000 We don't know how much.

00:07:10.000 For sure.

00:07:11.000 Yeah, I mean, definitely it is a good trend, but you don't want to overread into it.

00:07:18.000 And so when you have that much, you can also think of it this way.

00:07:21.000 In 2016, that's probably a better comparison than 2020 because turnout was supercharged in 2020.

00:07:27.000 So we can maybe assume it'll be closer to 2016's numbers because you don't have COVID, everyone locked in, everything burning down.

00:07:35.000 In 2016, you had 2.97 million votes for Donald Trump.

00:07:40.000 You had 2.92 votes for Hillary Clinton.

00:07:44.000 We won by...

00:07:45.000 Total.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, and with Biden and Trump, it was like 3.6 to 3.5.

00:07:49.000 It was way more.

00:07:50.000 Yes, it was 3.4 and a half to 3.7, 3.5.

00:07:55.000 And so, you have...

00:07:58.000 You can kind of think of it as Democrats have banked about a million votes, and they're going to need about 3 million, we'll say.

00:08:06.000 And we've banked about 500,000, so if we could get...

00:08:10.000 There's some independents, but we won't sweat that too much.

00:08:13.000 And by the way, just to be clear, some of the Dems are actually Trump voters.

00:08:16.000 Well, let's not even count on that.

00:08:17.000 Let's go strict partisan analysis, because that is the fairest way to do that.

00:08:21.000 Yeah.

00:08:22.000 So let's – and then there's about – let me check here the number of nonpartisan voters.

00:08:28.000 That's 188,000.

00:08:29.000 So let's assume they're about 50-50.

00:08:31.000 Let's just for arguments say 50-50.

00:08:34.000 So what you've got is you can imagine if we get it 50-50, the Republicans are at about 650,000 votes actually in.

00:08:42.000 So if you want to put it this way, if we get two and a half million people to vote on Tuesday for Trump, we win.

00:08:51.000 I think that's a pretty safe figure to say.

00:08:53.000 And the Democrats would struggle to match that.

00:08:57.000 I think they would have.

00:08:57.000 Is that correct?

00:08:58.000 We've seen the signs in Pennsylvania where they're worried they're not getting the turnout that they would usually get.

00:09:04.000 But that would only get Trump to 3.1 million, which is So we're trending for lower turnout in Pennsylvania than 2020.

00:09:11.000 I think generally people are expecting lower turnout.

00:09:14.000 And if I feel like that makes it, maybe we want to target the 2020 numbers.

00:09:18.000 That'd be great.

00:09:19.000 So it's Project 2.5, everybody.

00:09:21.000 Not Project 2025.

00:09:22.000 Project 2.5.

00:09:23.000 If we can get 2.5 million people to vote for Trump on Tuesday in Pennsylvania, he's President of the United States.

00:09:29.000 And I'm not saying that as a proclamation.

00:09:30.000 If Georgia holds, North Carolina holds, there's not a surprise anywhere else.

00:09:33.000 But we're talking about moving averages.

00:09:35.000 That's a good bet to make.

00:09:38.000 It's a good bet to aim at, I think.

00:09:40.000 So $2.5 million.

00:09:41.000 And is that an unrealistic aim based on what we've seen?

00:09:44.000 No.

00:09:45.000 I don't think so.

00:09:48.000 The reason to feel optimistic, I think, is when we have places with good numbers like Nevada, we're seeing really high rural turnout.

00:09:54.000 We're seeing great turnout from people who are our biggest base.

00:09:59.000 And in Pennsylvania, we would see that, I think, pushed towards Election Day for the factors that we mentioned.

00:10:05.000 And Trump has spent a ton of time in this state.

00:10:07.000 So if we can just see tons of people voting on Election Day in Pennsylvania, and we're emphasizing that because I believe in Pennsylvania, early voting is done.

00:10:16.000 You can do it in Bucks County today, but it's done.

00:10:18.000 Unless there's late mail returns, which are actually favoring us.

00:10:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:21.000 Late mail returns.

00:10:22.000 If you have a mail ballot, get that in.

00:10:23.000 This data set is largely finito.

00:10:26.000 Yeah, but you can't, like, we keep saying vote now.

00:10:28.000 If you're in Pennsylvania and you're living, you know, in Allegheny County, you, I believe, can't just go vote right now.

00:10:35.000 You have to vote on Tuesday.

00:10:36.000 That's right.

00:10:37.000 So don't make plans for Tuesday.

00:10:39.000 No, not only that.

00:10:40.000 If you live in Pennsylvania, I want to hear from you at freedomatcharliekirk.com.

00:10:43.000 You guys need to take Tuesday off and you need to go find every living human being.

00:10:46.000 I mean, this is it.

00:10:47.000 I mean, and by the way, I'll tell you a thought on this.

00:10:51.000 Rarely do we know the determinative state before Election Day.

00:10:54.000 Usually it's like, oh, you need a combo of this, this, and this.

00:10:57.000 Guys, it's all in.

00:10:58.000 It's the poker chips.

00:10:59.000 However, Kamala, she needs to defend three. 1.00

00:11:01.000 We just need to win one.

00:11:02.000 That was a great analysis, Blake.

00:11:03.000 Thank you.

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00:11:53.000 We just got the latest Arizona early voting data file.

00:11:58.000 Now I need to double check this back against the file because this is from Seth Keschel, who's terrific, but I need to go into the back end and double check this.

00:12:04.000 So take that because I have not independently done that, but I trust Seth.

00:12:07.000 He's a great man.

00:12:09.000 His Republican lead in Arizona is now 176,000.

00:12:14.000 Above Democrats, at this time, we were down 70,000 votes to Democrats in 2020.

00:12:21.000 So that is, what is that, 340,000?

00:12:24.000 No, 240,000 vote difference?

00:12:26.000 Yeah, versus 2020.

00:12:27.000 I hope you're right, because I'm just nodding.

00:12:28.000 I missed the numbers.

00:12:29.000 I was looking up a thing.

00:12:30.000 I think I'm right.

00:12:31.000 Yeah, I'm correct.

00:12:32.000 And that is Republican plus 8.1% in Arizona in early voting.

00:12:38.000 And we have a lot of voters left that have yet to vote.

00:12:41.000 On my morning walk, I asked five men.

00:12:45.000 Have you voted?

00:12:46.000 Oh, I'm voting this weekend, or I will vote Tuesday.

00:12:48.000 I got in their face, and no, no, no.

00:12:49.000 You're like, get in the van.

00:12:50.000 I know, exactly.

00:12:51.000 I said, get in the unmarked van.

00:12:54.000 And again, in Arizona, it's a different culture because we have mass mail-in voting.

00:12:58.000 We are using mass mail-in voting.

00:13:02.000 To our advantage in Arizona.

00:13:04.000 It is a flawed system.

00:13:05.000 There's an article today that's like how the right took over podcasting, the left's favorite, you know, vehicle of getting news.

00:13:12.000 We want the articles about that for early voting.

00:13:15.000 Like, how the right weaponized early voting.

00:13:17.000 Look, I don't love it, but I'll say this.

00:13:20.000 If you outnumber the other side, it can be used to your advantage. 0.98

00:13:24.000 Yes!

00:13:25.000 If you have bodies and do the work.

00:13:27.000 And, yeah, it's just...

00:13:29.000 Use every tool available to you and don't leave anything on the table.

00:13:33.000 And then the side that has more passion, more intensity, more sympathy from the public, it can help you a lot.

00:13:42.000 And normally we would say, like, you know, maybe if it was only on election day, it would probably be great for the side that has the most passion.

00:13:49.000 But what we're seeing is it seems the left has the advantage with the absolute politics fanatics.

00:13:56.000 Whereas we have the advantage with a lot of people who are just like, oh wait, yeah, the economy was a bit better under Trump.

00:14:01.000 I feel like I had more money then.

00:14:03.000 And with a month of early voting, we have a month to find those people, nag those people, seize an opportunity to get those people to vote, whereas we would not be getting that if it was only on election day. 0.96

00:14:13.000 I want to reiterate this, everybody.

00:14:17.000 If you are not actively doing something to contact voters every minute from now to Tuesday, you're a spectator, not a participant.

00:14:25.000 Postcards are a little late right now because you don't want a postcard arriving on Thursday.

00:14:30.000 And Tuesday is Drop Dead Day, everybody.

00:14:32.000 And I want to just contextualize this.

00:14:34.000 Look at our movement from the golden escalator to Trump defeating 18 people in the primary in 2016.

00:14:42.000 From getting into the arena, being a great president, impeached twice, and the COVID stuff, and then all the nonsense of the 2020 election, and then January 6th, and they thought he was in political exile.

00:14:55.000 We climbed out of that hole.

00:14:57.000 We climbed out of that ditch.

00:15:00.000 We were, as a movement, in political exile.

00:15:03.000 Is it Alba?

00:15:04.000 Is that right?

00:15:05.000 Alba or Alba?

00:15:06.000 I always get that wrong.

00:15:08.000 Alba and then St.

00:15:08.000 Helena.

00:15:09.000 But Helena's where he died, right?

00:15:10.000 St.

00:15:11.000 Helena's where he died.

00:15:11.000 Alba's where he did the comeback, and we don't talk about how it ended.

00:15:15.000 So we were in Elba.

00:15:18.000 And we rose, and it'll be a better situation.

00:15:21.000 We're going to win at Waterloo.

00:15:23.000 We're going to avoid Waterloo.

00:15:25.000 Well, we'll win.

00:15:26.000 Wasn't it that there was a very steep incline to the hill, and they never should have fought that battle?

00:15:31.000 Is that correct?

00:15:32.000 You might be thinking of Pickett's Charge.

00:15:34.000 But Waterloo was...

00:15:35.000 We don't need to go on...

00:15:36.000 That's a Project 2025 thing.

00:15:38.000 Wasn't it a strategic issue?

00:15:40.000 He probably should not have fought the battle.

00:15:42.000 A little bit of hubris?

00:15:42.000 Yes.

00:15:43.000 Napoleon was a very confident man.

00:15:45.000 Yes, to say the least.

00:15:46.000 And he wasn't as short as people say.

00:15:48.000 No, he was like average height.

00:15:49.000 It's all just British newspapers.

00:15:50.000 Fake news is very old from the press.

00:15:52.000 It's fascinating.

00:15:53.000 They just caricatured him as short.

00:15:55.000 And so this is the time, everybody, to really understand the Trump political movement has four days left.

00:16:03.000 Now, of course, if he wins the presidency, it goes on in a different fashion.

00:16:07.000 But him as a candidate has four days left.

00:16:11.000 He's been shot, indicted four times and facing 700 years in federal prison.

00:16:16.000 Guys, this is the time for urgency and action.

00:16:18.000 And also, I want you to just enjoy these next four days.

00:16:22.000 Not as a spectator, but with joy that the other side doesn't have.

00:16:25.000 I want you to think about this.

00:16:27.000 You'll never get a chance to knock on doors for Donald Trump again.

00:16:30.000 You will never get a chance to go tell someone to go vote for Donald Trump again.

00:16:34.000 You will never, ever, ever get a chance to go talk in a diner, to go ask a neighbor to go vote for Trump again.

00:16:43.000 Ever.

00:16:44.000 And for those of you that are super fans, for those of you that are 10 out of 10 super voters, you could be a part of history.

00:16:51.000 Because after Tuesday, it's all looking backwards.

00:16:55.000 Oh, Trump was, Trump was.

00:16:57.000 Even if he's president, the political movement that was boring down that golden escalator has an end point.

00:17:03.000 And then it will be the birth of something new, God willing.

00:17:06.000 The birth of an administration where we take back our country, and that's a whole different dynamic.

00:17:10.000 But you guys are still in the driver's seat.

00:17:12.000 There is time left on the clock.

00:17:13.000 You can find those new voters.

00:17:14.000 You can download the Turning Point Action app.

00:17:15.000 You can chase ballots.

00:17:17.000 But this nine-year movement has four days left.

00:17:23.000 Before I get to Steve Moore here, people say, but Charlie, the numbers in Pennsylvania, we are down.

00:17:27.000 Yes, we expect to be down in early voting in Pennsylvania.

00:17:30.000 We are down by 700,000 votes less than we were in 2020.

00:17:35.000 That's the kicker.

00:17:36.000 So the table is set that if we surge, we can win Pennsylvania.

00:17:40.000 Joining us now is a great man and super smart economic analyst, someone I've known for a while, and fellow Chicagoan Steve Moore, author of The Trump Economic Miracle.

00:17:50.000 Steve, welcome back to the program.

00:17:52.000 Hey Charlie, good to be with you.

00:17:53.000 By the way, here it is.

00:17:54.000 I love it.

00:17:56.000 And by the way, guess who wrote the foreword in this book, Charlie?

00:17:59.000 President Trump.

00:18:00.000 He did.

00:18:01.000 So we're honored to have him do that.

00:18:03.000 He gives you a lot of credit.

00:18:05.000 He really does.

00:18:06.000 He gives you a lot of credit because Steve Moore was one of the people in the room that helped shape the Trump economic miracle.

00:18:11.000 Steve, I want to get to the news today of the job reports.

00:18:14.000 But first, I want to have you address there's nonstop propaganda that the Democrat super PACs are running saying that Trump will crash the economy if he's president.

00:18:24.000 This is a complete fabrication.

00:18:25.000 Can you just address that right out of the gate to give our audience some intellectual ammunition to fight?

00:18:31.000 So I just wrote a column on this.

00:18:33.000 So thank you for asking.

00:18:35.000 This is precisely I went back to 2016.

00:18:38.000 You remember, this is exactly what they said.

00:18:41.000 Remember, Charlie, in 2016?

00:18:43.000 Oh, my God, Trump's going to cause a second Great Depression.

00:18:45.000 He's going to crash the economy.

00:18:47.000 He's going to crash the stock market.

00:18:49.000 It's going to be worse than the Great Depression.

00:18:52.000 And of course, it turned out to be exactly the opposite.

00:18:56.000 Trump caused an economic boom when he became president.

00:18:59.000 And so what's so unbelievable is that the same people who got it completely wrong in 2016 are now saying exactly the same thing in 2024.

00:19:09.000 Oh, my God, he's going to cause a Great Depression.

00:19:11.000 He's going to crash the stock market.

00:19:13.000 No, nobody could do that.

00:19:15.000 More damage to the economy than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have done over the last four years.

00:19:21.000 There's also a bunch of these Nobel Prize economics winners who basically said, oh, Trump's going to cause inflation.

00:19:28.000 These are the same people when Biden came in, they all signed a letter in the New York Times saying, don't worry, Biden's policies won't cause inflation.

00:19:36.000 They don't know which way is up either.

00:19:38.000 Yeah, it's just pure propaganda.

00:19:40.000 What do you have to say when they run these ads saying that Kamala Harris is for the middle class and Trump is only for the billionaire class?

00:19:48.000 Well, that's why we wrote the book, The Trump Economic Miracle, because the real miracle is that for the first time in decades, we saw substantial gains of income for the very middle class, working class people that you're talking about, Charlie.

00:20:00.000 You know, I was on Sean Hannity's show last night on Fox, and I mentioned that if you go to, and you've been traveling around the country a lot, as I have, I don't know if you've noticed this, but if you go into the really, really rich areas, the very wealthy suburbs, you know, Beverly Hills and so on, All you see is Kamala Harris signs.

00:20:19.000 But if you go to the middle class, working class areas of the country, all you see is Donald Trump signs.

00:20:25.000 So I think that all you have to do is ask the American people, and they will tell you.

00:20:30.000 And incidentally, just some polls came out in the last 48 hours.

00:20:36.000 Two-thirds to three-quarters of Americans say the economy is going in the wrong direction, their personal finances are bad, and the country is going in the wrong direction.

00:20:43.000 So why don't we ask real Americans, not these so-called experts? 0.57

00:20:47.000 Yeah, that is exactly right.

00:20:49.000 And so let's play some piece of tape here.

00:20:51.000 This is the last economic data right before the election.

00:20:54.000 This used to be like a big deal in the election.

00:20:56.000 Now the media has suppressed it.

00:20:58.000 Let's play, I believe, Rick Santelli we have here.

00:21:01.000 Let's play Cut 101.

00:21:02.000 It's an awful jobs report.

00:21:04.000 Jobs report and the prophecy came true.

00:21:07.000 Jobs light, $12,000.

00:21:10.000 $12,000 in non-farm payroll.

00:21:12.000 That is the lightest going back to December of 2020.

00:21:16.000 So give us a summary, Steve.

00:21:17.000 What was the news today?

00:21:19.000 Yeah, I can't do better than Rick Santelli, although I was on Fox Business News when he was reporting that.

00:21:24.000 But we have the same impression, and this is just a fact, that the private sector lost 40,000 jobs.

00:21:31.000 By the way, do you know the one sector of the economy that grew in this report?

00:21:36.000 Government.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, government.

00:21:37.000 Here we go again.

00:21:38.000 You know, all they've done is grow government and grow debt and grow taxes and grow spending.

00:21:43.000 And so that is what has led the economy all the way in the last three and a half years is big, massive increases in government spending.

00:21:51.000 Incidentally, we ran a $2 trillion deficit in 2024, the fiscal year just ended.

00:21:57.000 This is a dismal, dismal record.

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00:23:04.000 So, Steve, for someone that doesn't understand the economic data as well as you do, can you go through some of the policies that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did that drove this?

00:23:12.000 Specific actions that have ruined our economy and increased inflation?

00:23:16.000 Well, that's an easy one.

00:23:17.000 That's a layup question for me because, you know, and I think most of your listeners probably know the answer to this, which is, remember, we had a 1.5% inflation rate when Trump left office, 1.5%.

00:23:30.000 18 months later, Biden and Kamala Harris come in.

00:23:33.000 And they wrecked the economy so badly.

00:23:35.000 We're at 9.1%.

00:23:37.000 So how did they do that?

00:23:39.000 Well, they came in and they went on the biggest spending binge in American history, spending money on everything from green energy programs to massive welfare benefits to student loan bailouts.

00:23:49.000 And they were just passing out free money.

00:23:52.000 How did we accommodate that?

00:23:54.000 The Fed just printed money to pay for it. 0.77

00:23:56.000 And everyone knows this from their Economics 100 course.

00:24:00.000 Inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods.

00:24:03.000 So when you print that kind of money, it's obvious you're going to have inflation.

00:24:06.000 The quote-unquote inflation reduction act.

00:24:09.000 And so just to repeat, the private sector lost jobs this report.

00:24:13.000 Is that correct, Steve?

00:24:14.000 That's right.

00:24:15.000 In fact, manufacturing, construction, and business service is three of the most important industries for upper-middle income and middle-income and working-class people.

00:24:24.000 We lost 100,000 jobs in manufacturing, construction.

00:24:27.000 Those are a lot of the union jobs.

00:24:30.000 Sorry, Kamala and Joe Biden, you keep talking about how much you care about working-class Americans.

00:24:34.000 Those jobs were lost.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, and it's the worst jobs report since the height of COVID is what we are seeing.

00:24:40.000 And so now let's get into some specifics here, Steve.

00:24:43.000 What, if Donald Trump becomes president, would you advise him to do out of the gate?

00:24:49.000 What policies is he going to do to reverse course?

00:24:53.000 One great thing about Donald Trump is, you know, I've loved working with him for the last eight years and giving him advice.

00:25:01.000 But the truth is, you know, he doesn't really need my advice.

00:25:04.000 He knows what to do.

00:25:05.000 He has great instincts on the economy.

00:25:08.000 And so we're going to do right out of the gate.

00:25:10.000 He told me he's going to have a stack of executive orders two inches thick.

00:25:16.000 First hours in the White House, and we're going to reverse a lot of the crazy things that Biden has done.

00:25:21.000 We're going to build the Keystone.

00:25:23.000 Remember the Keystone XL pipeline?

00:25:25.000 We're going to rebuild that thing.

00:25:26.000 We're going to get America out of the We're going to relieve a lot of the regulations, for example, that you can't have a gas stove or that you have to buy EVs.

00:25:48.000 I mean, I don't mind people having EVs.

00:25:50.000 My wife and I have a hybrid. 0.98

00:25:52.000 We love it.

00:25:53.000 But we don't want the government telling us what kind of car we can buy.

00:25:56.000 The electric vehicle mandate from the end.

00:25:58.000 Just let's talk about energy in general, Steve.

00:26:00.000 Just the amount.

00:26:01.000 If we can get back to energy independence and supremacy, just talk about the ramifications throughout the economy.

00:26:10.000 Well, when you asked me about inflation, I should have added that another thing that contributed to inflation was that we dramatically reduced our energy production, and And energy, obviously, is the input in every single thing.

00:26:22.000 Every job in America is tied to And every product produced is tied to energy.

00:26:28.000 So if energy prices go up, food prices go up, computer prices go up, your mortgage goes up, housing costs go up.

00:26:36.000 And so Trump is totally committed to using everything we've got, using our oil, our gas, our coal, our nuclear power, And not only that, but minerals.

00:26:48.000 You probably know this, Charlie, but the United States has $5 trillion of minerals.

00:26:55.000 We are the most mineral-rich country in the world, and yet we're importing them.

00:26:59.000 We're importing minerals, even though we have more than anybody else.

00:27:02.000 And so Trump is very much in favor of us getting our copper and our uranium and all this stuff, the precious metals.

00:27:14.000 Why would we want to get those from China? 0.98

00:27:15.000 It makes no sense.

00:27:17.000 That is such a great point.

00:27:19.000 In closing here, Steve, the economy is the number one issue on people's minds.

00:27:24.000 President Trump is doing very well with it.

00:27:26.000 The Trump economic miracle.

00:27:27.000 What is an element of data that you have not mentioned in this discussion that you wish every swing voter knew?

00:27:34.000 What is one thing that you wish they knew that is in the book Trump economic miracle that you think is the most persuasive and important?

00:27:43.000 Oh, I think that the game set match statistic is basically that the average family median family income rose by six thousand dollars when Trump was president after inflation.

00:27:55.000 Six thousand dollars.

00:27:56.000 That was the biggest ever under.

00:27:58.000 You know what it is under Biden and Harris?

00:28:01.000 I think if you count inflation, they're ten thousand dollars poorer.

00:28:04.000 Well, not ten thousand.

00:28:07.000 They are poor, though.

00:28:08.000 We've had a little bit of growth in the last nine months, but the average family has lost about $2,000 in purchasing power.

00:28:15.000 So that's an $8,000 swing for the middle class.

00:28:18.000 In other words, what I'm saying is the average family today is poorer Steve, excellent work.

00:28:30.000 Thank you so much.

00:28:30.000 Trump, economic miracle.

00:28:31.000 Thank you.

00:28:33.000 Have a great one.

00:28:34.000 Let me synthesize what Steve just said.

00:28:37.000 Would you go and vote if you got an $8,000 raise?

00:28:41.000 Would you go and vote right now if you got an $8,000 bonus?

00:28:45.000 That is what Donald Trump, that's what's on the ticket.

00:28:49.000 You vote for Trump, you get an $8,000 bonus in purchasing power.

00:28:53.000 And that's not a bunch of hocus pocus.

00:28:55.000 That is strict economic data.

00:28:57.000 That is the blue-collar boom.

00:29:00.000 That's a great tweet, by the way.

00:29:02.000 We should get that up.

00:29:03.000 Again, that is not a bunch of woo-woo, as Blake would say.

00:29:06.000 That is not a bunch of stuff in the clouds.

00:29:09.000 That is an $8,000 bonus.

00:29:12.000 Not to mention you get a border and not World War III. Again, if we get our message out, everybody, individually...

00:29:19.000 The question is, are we going to have enough ground troops and out-of-state warriors that are going to go to Pennsylvania this weekend?

00:29:26.000 Listen, we have fans in Delaware right now.

00:29:28.000 Get in the car and go to Pennsylvania this weekend.

00:29:30.000 Say, hey, we're going to go to a diner and we're going to go to a restaurant.

00:29:33.000 We're going to talk to people, wear MAGA stuff.

00:29:35.000 Even if it's just one voter.

00:29:36.000 If you live in rural Ohio, get in the car and go to Pennsylvania.

00:29:40.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:29:42.000 I want to read Pamela's email here.

00:29:45.000 Charlie, I belong to a grassroots group in Allegheny, Pennsylvania that has a large number of members, over 500.

00:29:50.000 Our group has been working tirelessly with door knocking, lit dropping, calling, texting, letter writing, and everything else that we can to help Trump.

00:29:57.000 As I'm watching you right now, I am texting independents and undecided voters as the last push.

00:30:01.000 Most of us are poll workers and poll watchers.

00:30:03.000 I even trained to do tabulation poll watching on Tuesday.

00:30:06.000 The reason I'm telling you is that a majority of members are voting on Tuesday.

00:30:10.000 It's interesting.

00:30:11.000 So these are high-prop voters, majority of which are voting on Tuesday.

00:30:14.000 There are many intelligent women and men that are voting for Trump and have.

00:30:18.000 We have Democrats that have joined our group.

00:30:20.000 Wow.

00:30:21.000 If we are any indication of the rest of Pennsylvania, we should be able to steal the deal.

00:30:24.000 I ask the question, you are a great American.

00:30:26.000 Does it feel better than it did in 2020?

00:30:28.000 She says, yes.

00:30:30.000 The momentum is with us.

00:30:31.000 Pray, pray, pray.

00:30:32.000 We have to fight until the last minute and then give it to God.

00:30:34.000 She says also, one more thing our group has done.

00:30:37.000 We filled out affidavits for 25,000 people removing them from the voter rolls because they no longer lived at the address stated.

00:30:44.000 That's really good.

00:30:45.000 I mean, this is a super...

00:30:46.000 I want to meet Pamela.

00:30:48.000 That's amazing.

00:30:49.000 It's really great.

00:30:50.000 So, Pamela, God bless you.

00:30:51.000 You are what makes this country tick.

00:30:54.000 Truly.

00:30:55.000 So, the map is shrinking for us.

00:30:58.000 And, again, don't sleep on Wisconsin.

00:31:01.000 I also want to be very clear.

00:31:02.000 If all of a sudden the news in Pennsylvania is not great, we can still win if we win out west and win Wisconsin.

00:31:07.000 And you can vote this weekend in Wisconsin.

00:31:09.000 They have early vote through Sundays.

00:31:11.000 And also, Arizona has emergency voting, they're calling it this weekend.

00:31:14.000 Yep.

00:31:15.000 Did you know this?

00:31:15.000 I don't.

00:31:16.000 They just sent out a press release.

00:31:18.000 We now have emergency voting.

00:31:19.000 Amazing.

00:31:19.000 Thank you.

00:31:20.000 By the way, thank you, Maricopa.

00:31:21.000 We'd love to have more in-person voting.

00:31:23.000 We outnumber Democrats, so the more voting centers, the better.

00:31:26.000 Why don't you just put one on?

00:31:27.000 I'm not kidding.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, I just want to emphasize that again.

00:31:29.000 Michigan and Wisconsin, I checked both of them.

00:31:31.000 They end early voting on Sunday, so there's a little break on Monday.

00:31:35.000 And then, of course, there's election day.

00:31:37.000 I love it.

00:31:38.000 And so, I want to read some of these other emails here.

00:31:42.000 This is from North Carolina.

00:31:45.000 My name is Emily.

00:31:46.000 My huge Greek and Spanish family are all MAGA conservatives.

00:31:49.000 Met a low-prop voter and got them out to vote.

00:31:51.000 Told me that if I would not have...

00:31:54.000 He asked if his friends had voted.

00:31:55.000 I said no.

00:31:56.000 I said, we will give you...

00:31:57.000 This is the reason to vote.

00:31:58.000 Anyway, I'm going to go vote.

00:31:59.000 Emily, MAGA conservative mom and grandma.

00:32:01.000 God bless you.

00:32:01.000 That's great.

00:32:02.000 Paul says here, Charlie, have a voting day party.

00:32:05.000 Call your friends and say, hey, we're all going to meet this specific poll location at a specific time.

00:32:09.000 That's great.

00:32:09.000 I love that.

00:32:10.000 Guys, we have done well with early voting, and now it's all eyes on this weekend.

00:32:15.000 And then we need to have a triumph on Tuesday.

00:32:17.000 We need to have just an explosion, a surge the likes of which the nation has ever seen.

00:32:22.000 And I just want to be very clear.

00:32:24.000 We've never been in the driver's seat like this, guys.

00:32:27.000 We have never been in the driver's seat where I can say confidently, if we hit our turnout numbers, we win.

00:32:34.000 That's really, really, really good.

00:32:36.000 Right, Blake?

00:32:37.000 I mean, the independent numbers are good enough.

00:32:41.000 Nevada is looking incredibly good.

00:32:44.000 Let's read that number.

00:32:45.000 We have the turnout for low-propensity voters in Clark County.

00:32:49.000 Las Vegas.

00:32:50.000 Las Vegas.

00:32:51.000 Like I said, Nevada has had great data because we know everyone's party.

00:32:56.000 We have very high early turnout.

00:32:59.000 And we know how much they voted in the last few elections.

00:33:02.000 And this is from Open Source Zone, but I assume he's channeling someone like Ralston.

00:33:07.000 And so for people who have voted in zero of the last three elections, so they didn't vote in 22, 20, or 18, I'd imagine.

00:33:17.000 For Republicans who match that, their turnout is 28%.

00:33:21.000 For Democrats, 20%.

00:33:22.000 If it's one or two out of the last three elections, so occasional voters, Republican turnout, 47%.

00:33:29.000 Democrat turnout, 36%.

00:33:31.000 So if we are just beating Democrats in our turnout with these marginal sometimes voters, and then if our always voters turn out...

00:33:42.000 We win.

00:33:42.000 We flip that state.

00:33:43.000 I don't want to give anyone too much, like, hopium, but Nevada, if we're surging in Nevada, which is considered the bluest of the battlegrounds...

00:33:55.000 A month ago, this was the most likely of the seven for Harris to win.

00:33:59.000 There might be something happening.

00:34:02.000 There might be.

00:34:02.000 I'm just saying.

00:34:03.000 There might be something happening.

00:34:04.000 You ask me a lot how I feel about it.

00:34:06.000 And I go back and forth.

00:34:06.000 Sometimes I feel better.

00:34:07.000 Sometimes I feel worse.

00:34:08.000 And one of the biggest things that makes me feel good about the race is I just have to do the sanity check, which is in 2020, we felt terrible.

00:34:16.000 The polls were awful.

00:34:18.000 All these trends were against us, and we barely lost.

00:34:21.000 So compare...

00:34:22.000 42,000 ballots in three states.

00:34:24.000 So compare four years later.

00:34:25.000 Does it seem...

00:34:26.000 What does the environment seem like?

00:34:28.000 Well, it seems Trump's more popular with all of these groups.

00:34:31.000 He's more popular with Hispanics.

00:34:32.000 He's more popular with blacks.

00:34:34.000 He's more popular with young people.

00:34:35.000 All these groups, you see all these signs that the intensity is there, that the rural vote is stronger, that the early vote is stronger.

00:34:44.000 Almost every trend that you compare to 2020 is better, so I just have to do a sanity check.

00:34:48.000 Why wouldn't we be able to win then?

00:34:50.000 Because it was so close last time.

00:34:51.000 It's a turnout election, which means you have to work for it.

00:34:54.000 People just don't show up on their own.

00:34:55.000 They have to be bothered, nagged, and just drag them to the polls. 0.99

00:34:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:00.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 01, 2024

The Pressure is On Pennsylvania For a Trump Victory

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