The Charlie Kirk Show - July 28, 2023


The Problem with Whiteness at University of Chicago with Daniel Schmidt


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Daniel Schmidt, a student at the University of Chicago, exposes the anti-whiteness taught in a class called The Problem with Whiteness . And then we also examine RFK Jr. and Cornell West, how third party candidates could upset the 2024 election.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000 Wait till you hear what they're teaching at the University of Chicago.
00:00:04.000 It is shocking.
00:00:05.000 It is a course called The Problem with Whiteness.
00:00:08.000 Yep, The Problem with Whiteness. 0.75
00:00:10.000 Daniel Schmidt, student at University of Chicago, joins us.
00:00:13.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:02:35.000 Get this guy on the show.
00:02:40.000 He has something important to say and i'm interested on a multiple levels.
00:02:46.000 So Daniel Schmidt, student at University OF Chicago, exposes this story.
00:02:51.000 You've kind of seen this cable news segment over and over again right, campus bias, campus insanity.
00:02:58.000 But Daniel exposed something that is more than just quote-unquote campus insanity.
00:03:04.000 For there's three parts to this conversation.
00:03:06.000 I'm going to try to keep it as organized as possible.
00:03:08.000 First, the obvious anti-white beliefs, Beliefs that are seeping into academia and the rest of the country.
00:03:14.000 The war on white people continues. 0.68
00:03:16.000 Number two, the memory holding of it, which is fascinating.
00:03:21.000 And then number three, which is University of Chicago and how they present themselves to the rest of the country.
00:03:26.000 Daniel Schmidt, welcome to the program, student University of Chicago.
00:03:30.000 Thank you for your courage to speak out against this.
00:03:31.000 Let's get our facts right.
00:03:32.000 What is being taught at the University of Chicago?
00:03:35.000 Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me.
00:03:37.000 I think you're exactly right when you call this a war on white people. 0.98
00:03:40.000 That's what it is.
00:03:41.000 So basically, what happened was I was registering for classes last year and scrolling through the list, and I found a class called The Problem of Whiteness.
00:03:51.000 And I mean, just take a second to really consider what this class is saying, that there's a solution to white people or whiteness.
00:03:58.000 I mean, it's totally anti-white, as you said, it's totally insane.
00:04:01.000 And if you go even a step further, if you read the course description, it said whiteness is a problem with world-making and raising effects. 1.00
00:04:09.000 The professor teaching it is some nasty woman who specializes in Denmark. 0.72
00:04:13.000 I mean, none of it makes any sense whatsoever.
00:04:16.000 And so after I exposed the class on my Twitter, which is what I've been using Twitter for, the professor filed two separate complaints to get me expelled.
00:04:24.000 She said I led a harassment campaign against her.
00:04:28.000 I was inciting violence, all this crazy stuff.
00:04:30.000 And yeah, that's what happens if you speak up about this stuff.
00:04:33.000 And that's what they're teaching at a school like this.
00:04:34.000 And I'm sure around the world.
00:04:36.000 Yeah, I just, I want to ask a question.
00:04:37.000 Do you feel as if that hating white people is socially acceptable at University of Chicago?
00:04:43.000 Oh, absolutely. 0.86
00:04:44.000 I mean, not just University of Chicago, but everywhere.
00:04:46.000 Let me get a bit of an anecdote.
00:04:49.000 So I come from a middle-class household, nothing special.
00:04:52.000 I get to use Chicago, which is considered one of the elite universities in America.
00:04:56.000 Within my first month, I'm told I can't participate in a debate tournament because I'm white.
00:05:02.000 This debate tournament was only open to non-white people.
00:05:06.000 And of course, the people telling me this went to fancy boarding schools in New England.
00:05:09.000 I went to a mediocre public high school in Tennessee.
00:05:12.000 They're the ones calling me privileged.
00:05:13.000 It's not about any privilege.
00:05:15.000 It's not about any stats or any class. 0.98
00:05:17.000 It's pure racial hatred toward white people. 0.99
00:05:19.000 And it's everywhere. 0.97
00:05:20.000 Absolutely.
00:05:21.000 Okay, so now the story gets interesting.
00:05:23.000 Not that that's not interesting.
00:05:24.000 It's super important.
00:05:25.000 And I want to dive into that and the dynamics behind it.
00:05:28.000 I find it to be super important.
00:05:30.000 And thank you for being willing to speak out against this.
00:05:32.000 Most people cower in fear, and I know they're going nuts against you.
00:05:35.000 By the way, before I forget this, I told my team to tell you, I will come and speak on campus, University of Chicago, free of charge.
00:05:41.000 I'm from the suburbs of Chicago.
00:05:42.000 You let me know.
00:05:43.000 I'll be there.
00:05:44.000 We'll make it happen.
00:05:45.000 But this is where it gets interesting.
00:05:46.000 You go on Stuart Varney's program.
00:05:48.000 Love Stuart Varney.
00:05:49.000 He's been really good to me over the last decade.
00:05:51.000 He's been excellent.
00:05:53.000 But I think that some people at the top levels didn't like this segment.
00:05:56.000 You did great.
00:05:57.000 Listen to this because something interesting happened after this.
00:06:00.000 Play Cut 107.
00:06:01.000 I mean, this is, you know, it's not an exaggeration to say we are entering straight up anti-white genocidal rhetoric, maybe.
00:06:08.000 I mean, let me give you one more example. 0.98
00:06:10.000 The psychiatrist spoke at Yale and said she has fantasies of murdering white people. 0.98
00:06:14.000 Imagine being a white person in the audience looking around. 0.98
00:06:17.000 Your classmates are nodding in agreement.
00:06:19.000 So seriously, if you're a white student, speak up.
00:06:22.000 The time is now because things are only going to get worse.
00:06:24.000 They're going to treat me like this, but there needs to be more students like me.
00:06:28.000 Okay, so obviously nothing wrong with that.
00:06:29.000 And by the way, yes, that's not an isolated example.
00:06:32.000 Do we have that clip?
00:06:32.000 Just to reinforce it, what happened after that, Daniel?
00:06:37.000 Yeah, so, you know, I went on and as you said, Stuart Varney, incredible guy, nice to me.
00:06:41.000 So nothing against him.
00:06:42.000 I went on and then Fox Business posted the video to their YouTube channel.
00:06:45.000 And within a week, it got over 100,000 views, you know, totally positive reception.
00:06:50.000 People in the comments were thanking me, saying, thank you for saying what a lot of white people are thinking now.
00:06:54.000 And it seemed all well.
00:06:56.000 Then I checked a week later, exactly a week later, and the video was private on YouTube.
00:07:00.000 So totally gone there.
00:07:01.000 And even on the website, FoxBusiness.com, totally scrapped.
00:07:05.000 And I was given no notice.
00:07:07.000 I'm not sure exactly why.
00:07:08.000 I can speculate why, but totally memory holds.
00:07:11.000 And I'm assuming now I'm on a blacklist or something, but that's exactly what happened.
00:07:16.000 Just speculate.
00:07:17.000 Why do you think what you said is objectionable?
00:07:20.000 Well, I think, you know, as I said, white people are not expected to speak up for white people.
00:07:25.000 I think every other race can do it, and that's good for them. 0.96
00:07:28.000 But if you go on national TV and you say what is happening at elite universities, which I've witnessed, which is the promotion of white genocidal rhetoric, like I said, a Yale psychiatrist said she has fantasies of murdering white people. 0.98
00:07:40.000 I mean, this is absolutely insane. 0.91
00:07:42.000 If you just say that, I'm assuming there was some pressure.
00:07:45.000 Maybe some advertisers, maybe some higher-ups said, yeah, we're not allowed to endorse that.
00:07:49.000 That's still too far.
00:07:50.000 We don't want to be called white nationalists or any other scare tactic. 1.00
00:07:54.000 And as you said in the opening, I'm tired of this crap. 0.99
00:07:56.000 I mean, it's just like, I want to live in a decent country and then I have to be lectured about an abolition of an entire race as if that's academic. 0.99
00:08:04.000 Like, that's not, that's, it's disgusting. 0.96
00:08:06.000 It's vile.
00:08:06.000 Sorry, Daniel, continue.
00:08:08.000 No, you're exactly, you're exactly right.
00:08:10.000 And I think it just exposes the cowardice on our side.
00:08:12.000 There are many great people.
00:08:13.000 There are people who are exposing the truth and fighting for what is right.
00:08:16.000 But you have these people on the top who maybe care more about what the left thinks about them or what advertisers think about them.
00:08:22.000 And what I want to emphasize is it's not like Fox's audience was opposed to this, right?
00:08:26.000 This video had 100,000 views, totally positive reception.
00:08:29.000 They did it to Tucker.
00:08:30.000 They did it to someone like me.
00:08:31.000 I'm just a random college kid.
00:08:32.000 They don't even care what their base wants anymore.
00:08:35.000 They're totally answering to these advertisers, to these people who have the American people forgotten.
00:08:40.000 I mean, it's totally sick. 0.91
00:08:41.000 And as you're right, we need to just move on and just stop being crybabies.
00:08:45.000 That's what it is.
00:08:46.000 So now this is the third element I want to talk to you about.
00:08:48.000 And again, you tell me time and date.
00:08:50.000 I'll come and I'd love to have a chat at University of Chicago.
00:08:53.000 So is the university, so in, you know, we raise a lot of money at Turning Point.
00:08:57.000 You say we're super blessed.
00:08:59.000 A portion of our donors are giving money to University of Chicago, a lot of money, because University of Chicago has gone on a PR campaign saying they're the most free speech school.
00:09:08.000 I'm sure you've heard this, right?
00:09:09.000 That they're free speech and they're free speech and they're free speech.
00:09:12.000 In fact, there's like the University of Chicago speech policy and the president of University of Chicago sent out this statement.
00:09:19.000 And you're right, University of Chicago is an unofficial Ivy League, right?
00:09:23.000 It's a great school, very hard to get into.
00:09:26.000 But do you find that University of Chicago has a culture of speech where you're allowed to express heterodox ideas?
00:09:33.000 Well, it's funny because that's actually the main reason why I went to youth Chicago was the free speech.
00:09:38.000 I wanted to go somewhere where I could say something and not get expelled.
00:09:41.000 I will say this.
00:09:42.000 As I said earlier, this professor that I exposed who was teaching this class called The Problem of Whiteness, she filed two separate complaints to get me expelled and my school did reject them.
00:09:51.000 I don't know if that would have happened anywhere else.
00:09:53.000 So I do have to commend my school for that.
00:09:55.000 I know that seems insane, but I mean, things are crazy now.
00:09:58.000 You know, I will say it's not just about the administration, though.
00:10:01.000 It's about how safe do the students feel.
00:10:03.000 In fact, I think at my school and maybe at other schools, a lot more pressure now comes from the students, right?
00:10:08.000 If you speak up, these students will dox you.
00:10:11.000 They'll call you out.
00:10:11.000 They'll try to cancel you, which is the most ironic thing, right?
00:10:14.000 When a white student like me calls out an anti-white professor, I have the New York Times writing a hit piece about me calling me a bully.
00:10:20.000 I have CNN calling me a bully.
00:10:22.000 How often do these BLM activists ruin people's lives? 1.00
00:10:24.000 Like every day?
00:10:25.000 No, no, no.
00:10:26.000 This is important.
00:10:27.000 This is important. 0.94
00:10:28.000 These are sadists.
00:10:30.000 And I mean, you're strong.
00:10:31.000 You got 50,000 followers.
00:10:32.000 We have your back 100%.
00:10:34.000 But this New York Times, the New York Times is threatened by a college kid.
00:10:37.000 No offense.
00:10:37.000 What are you, 19 or 20 years old, right?
00:10:39.000 I mean, you're 19 years old.
00:10:41.000 The New York Times is threatened by a college kid who goes on a cable news segment and says, look at this.
00:10:46.000 I want you to think about how sick these people are.
00:10:48.000 They find joy in using their strength to crush people smaller than them, right? 0.93
00:10:54.000 I mean, it's just a 19-year-old that goes on TV and says, oh, by the way, there's a class that's offered called The Problem with Whiteness.
00:11:00.000 Well, what's the solution then?
00:11:02.000 I mean, if the problem is whiteness, what is the solution? 0.85
00:11:05.000 And it's not just there.
00:11:06.000 By the way, we have a whole professor watch list where we go through these elements one by one.
00:11:10.000 And this is in corporate America.
00:11:12.000 Remember at Coca-Cola, they had an entire diatribe where they said, you know, the whiteness is the problem in America.
00:11:20.000 And, you know, it's white culture and all this.
00:11:22.000 Like, hold on a second, time out here.
00:11:24.000 Like, what?
00:11:25.000 What is, and you have to use the new York Times, not as if there's nothing going on in the world, we got UFOs.
00:11:29.000 We got, you know, Mitch McConnell short-circuiting.
00:11:32.000 We got dead chefs in Martha's Vineyard.
00:11:33.000 Like, there's a lot of stories you could be investigating.
00:11:35.000 No, the New York Times has to go write a hit piece about a 19-year-old college kid who committed the crime of noticing that there's anti-white curriculum being offered.
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00:12:51.000 So, Daniel, I want to build this out a little bit further.
00:12:55.000 From the outsider's perspective, University of Chicago is celebrated as a free speech school, and that's important.
00:13:00.000 I'm glad they didn't kick you out.
00:13:01.000 However, would you agree, though, that the curriculum and/or the professor tilt is even more important than a university's speech policies?
00:13:12.000 Yeah, I would say so because something I really emphasize and why I stress so much importance on this education stuff is, you know, like you go to these elite universities, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, whatever.
00:13:22.000 These kids are going to be our future elite in the next 10, 20 years.
00:13:25.000 So, what they're being taught now, this anti-white stuff, this anti-religion stuff, this anti-common sense stuff, that's how they're going to enter the real world. 0.98
00:13:35.000 That's how they're going to enter politics, business, and they're going to act on that stuff.
00:13:38.000 So, I think you're right.
00:13:39.000 That actually may be more important because that's actually going to influence the thought process of our next politicians, next businessmen, et cetera.
00:13:46.000 So, yeah, I think I would agree with that.
00:13:47.000 Yeah, and it's just look, a lot of people donate to University of Chicago, and you're subsidizing curriculum selection, like the problem with whiteness. 0.86
00:13:55.000 So, you mentioned this, I believe, on the interview that got memory hold, where this professor says you must take those MRFers out, the white people, just take out white people, take them out. 0.85
00:14:07.000 Play cut 110.
00:14:08.000 This is a professor. 0.96
00:14:10.000 Look, I think that white people are committed to being villains in the aggregate, right? 0.80
00:14:14.000 One I think that white people viscerally fear is not that white people don't know, right, what they have done, they know they fear that there is no other way to be human, but the way in which they are human. 1.00
00:14:27.000 The thing I want to say to you is we got to take these motherfuckers out. 1.00
00:14:31.000 I could just see her dissertation. 1.00
00:14:32.000 We got to take those out.
00:14:35.000 So, that's actually a Rutgers professor.
00:14:37.000 Tell us about the Yale example because we're digging for that one.
00:14:41.000 Yeah, so it was a Yale psychiatrist.
00:14:43.000 It was a guest speaker.
00:14:44.000 She spoke at Yale and she told the audience, it was actually a future doctor. 1.00
00:14:48.000 These are future doctors she's speaking to, and she told them, I have fantasies of shooting white people in the head. 0.99
00:14:54.000 If you Google it, you should find it. 0.99
00:14:55.000 I believe Barry Weiss was the one who exposed it actually.
00:14:58.000 And, you know, as I said in the Fox business interview, imagine you're a white person.
00:15:02.000 You're in this audience.
00:15:02.000 You're looking around and everyone is nodding in agreement or not doing anything.
00:15:06.000 And I spent probably a whole day trying to find, okay, did a single Yale student protest, did a single one complain about it, say anything about it.
00:15:14.000 I couldn't find anything.
00:15:15.000 Now, of course, if you're some, you know, some right-wing person, you go to Yale, you're going to have a whole protest.
00:15:20.000 You're going to have people demanding the school figure out. 0.99
00:15:22.000 You go to Yale, you say, I want to murder white people. 1.00
00:15:24.000 Oh, it's all fine. 0.99
00:15:25.000 And again, these are future doctors.
00:15:27.000 So just like that Rutgers professor, imagine the next, I don't know, AOC is in that audience.
00:15:31.000 You're saying, wow, she has a really good point.
00:15:33.000 You get the public office.
00:15:34.000 You're going to start advocating for this stuff.
00:15:36.000 I mean, it's, you know, it's scary.
00:15:37.000 Yeah, you have a good point.
00:15:38.000 It's a genocide. 0.57
00:15:39.000 I mean, it is what it is.
00:15:40.000 No, that's the way they're speaking.
00:15:42.000 That's exactly right, Dan.
00:15:43.000 And by the way, it's not an exaggeration, right?
00:15:45.000 You say that the media loses their mind.
00:15:46.000 Like, okay, let's go a piece of evidence. 0.65
00:15:48.000 Quote, I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step, like I did the world of favor. 0.84
00:16:06.000 Continue. 0.98
00:16:07.000 Dr. Keila Ani from Yale continues and says, trying to talk to people, white people, is a quote, waste of breath. 0.86
00:16:16.000 Dr. Kila Ani, a doctor at Yale University, said, quote, we are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a saint or a superhero to accept responsibility. 0.81
00:16:30.000 Ain't going to happen. 0.99
00:16:31.000 They have five holes in their brain. 0.99
00:16:32.000 Could you imagine if we talked about another race that way? 0.61
00:16:37.000 I mean, yeah.
00:16:38.000 And, you know, we can say, can you imagine?
00:16:40.000 And I agree with that, but I think it's past the point of like, what about is?
00:16:43.000 I mean, this is sick.
00:16:44.000 I mean, this is totally sick.
00:16:45.000 And the right just needs to be honest about it.
00:16:47.000 The conservative movement needs to just address it head on.
00:16:49.000 This is white genocidal rhetoric. 0.87
00:16:51.000 They can call me whatever they want, white, because I know I'm not. 0.99
00:16:54.000 I know what's my heart. 0.71
00:16:55.000 And the fact that I go on Fox and I provide a clear-cut example and I say this is white genocide. 0.79
00:16:59.000 And then they delete the interview a week later. 0.82
00:17:01.000 I mean, it's just sick.
00:17:03.000 I mean, and I see Fox's audience all agree with me.
00:17:06.000 They agree with you.
00:17:07.000 They want something done about this.
00:17:08.000 And then our supposed, you know, the big corporations that are supposed to represent us just fail.
00:17:13.000 I mean, we need to just, we need to just say enough is enough.
00:17:15.000 I mean, I don't know what else to do at this point.
00:17:18.000 Yeah, I mean, what you have to do is speak the truth.
00:17:19.000 Final question.
00:17:21.000 How has been the reaction amongst your classmates throughout all this?
00:17:26.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it should go without saying, but I'm one of the only conservative voices out of my school.
00:17:31.000 I've had people call me the worst my campus has to offer.
00:17:34.000 I've had people say things about me.
00:17:36.000 But I will say this.
00:17:37.000 I also have received a lot of secret messages from students, even professors, saying, I really appreciate what you're doing.
00:17:43.000 I commend you.
00:17:44.000 So I do want to leave with this.
00:17:45.000 I know this seems hopeless.
00:17:46.000 This seems bleak, but I do think we've gotten to the point where it's so obvious.
00:17:49.000 It's so in our face now.
00:17:51.000 Problem of whiteness. 0.99
00:17:52.000 I want to shoot white people in the head that I think you're going to see more and more people who may not even be conservative, maybe centrists, you know, not really interested in politics. 1.00
00:18:00.000 They're going to start speaking up. 1.00
00:18:01.000 They're going to start realizing this is wrong.
00:18:03.000 And that's what I'm noticing.
00:18:04.000 So yeah, exactly.
00:18:05.000 There is still some hope here, and I hope that things do change.
00:18:08.000 All right, Daniel, if we can help you, let us know.
00:18:10.000 Keep fighting.
00:18:11.000 Thank you.
00:18:12.000 Thanks so much.
00:18:13.000 These campuses have become islands of totalitarianism.
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00:19:21.000 So Bobby Kennedy Jr., RFK Jr., has really been disrupting the Democrat primary.
00:19:26.000 And he's asking really good questions.
00:19:28.000 And he had a town hall with Sean Hannity.
00:19:30.000 Sean Hannity is great.
00:19:31.000 Sean has always been really good to me and really kind and sweet.
00:19:34.000 We disagree on the Ukraine issue, obviously, but that's okay.
00:19:36.000 Disagreement is what makes life fun.
00:19:38.000 Sean Hannity had RFK Jr.
00:19:40.000 What was fascinating is that on in Hannity Town Hall, you saw in real time, the audience was more with RFK Jr. than the traditional kind of orthodoxy of Republicanism.
00:19:52.000 And that is reflective, of course, of the Turning Point Action Poll.
00:19:55.000 So I want to play a couple of these pieces of tape, which I just find so interesting, of RFK Jr. on Sean Hannity's town hall.
00:20:03.000 And good for Sean Hannity for hosting him for a variety of reasons.
00:20:07.000 I found it to be much watched television.
00:20:09.000 In fact, I found it to be more interesting than some of the other presidential town halls that have been happening recently.
00:20:15.000 So we skated by this super quickly and we didn't get a chance to really dive into it.
00:20:19.000 But let's start with the stuff we can agree on.
00:20:22.000 68, RFK Jr. on pandemics.
00:20:24.000 This is where he's at his best.
00:20:26.000 Now, I do not think RFK is going to be the Democrat nominee.
00:20:30.000 I don't even know if RFK will win a single state.
00:20:32.000 But if RFK can even get 20% or 30%, that is a significant chip-off of Joe Biden.
00:20:39.000 The media is doing everything they possibly can to ignore RFK.
00:20:43.000 And it's only making him bigger.
00:20:45.000 It's only making him stronger.
00:20:47.000 He was once smeared and slandered as, oh, he's an anti-vax activist.
00:20:51.000 He's now getting known as a thoughtful anti-establishment thinker.
00:20:56.000 Now, before, let me just suspend my cheerleading for RFK Jr. Totally screwed up this Moms for Liberty thing.
00:21:04.000 I'm really disappointed in him.
00:21:06.000 I texted him that privately.
00:21:07.000 I say that publicly.
00:21:09.000 Total mess up.
00:21:11.000 Not smart, man.
00:21:12.000 I mean, he calls him a hate group.
00:21:14.000 He also says, I'm going to be the most pro-LGBT president in history.
00:21:18.000 Yeah, that dog does not hunt on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:21:22.000 But we believe in nuance, not just one team good, one team bad.
00:21:26.000 Sometimes people can say both good things and bad things, and you have to be honest about that.
00:21:31.000 And I think RFK says far more good things than bad things, even though he's had a very clumsy couple weeks.
00:21:37.000 Those are just a couple examples that I could name.
00:21:39.000 Cut 68, RFK Jr. talks about the three-letter agencies.
00:21:44.000 If there was something where I think he's at his best at, it is this, Play Cut 68.
00:21:50.000 We've had the WHO, CDC, the DHS, and all of the three-letter agencies have thought about pandemics for 100 years.
00:22:02.000 And they've worked very, very carefully on pandemic preparedness protocols.
00:22:08.000 And all of those protocols said you never locked down a population.
00:22:12.000 What they were doing violated all of the orthodoxy.
00:22:17.000 Of course it did.
00:22:18.000 Now, if you understand the doctrine of war, an illegitimate regime, the deep state, they need a perpetual crisis.
00:22:26.000 It has to be one crisis to the other.
00:22:27.000 Sometimes it's a foreign crisis, sometimes it's a domestic crisis.
00:22:31.000 I want you to think deeply about this.
00:22:33.000 Has there been a time post-9-11 where the country was not at a heightened state of crisis?
00:22:42.000 The only time that I could think of, quite honestly, was for a couple years when Trump was president.
00:22:49.000 2018 and 19.
00:22:50.000 Yeah, they were tumultuous in the sense of domestic politics and the yammering of low IQ Washington, D.C. shills.
00:22:59.000 But, you know, 2017 and 18 and 19, you had Mueller and the Russia stuff, but it was the closest we've been towards non-frenetic crisis, and we have not returned to that.
00:23:13.000 You think about 2001 through 2006 was Afghanistan, Iraq, the surge, Petraeus.
00:23:19.000 2007, 2008 was the global financial crisis, which was obviously largely triggered because of bad monetary and fiscal policy.
00:23:29.000 Maybe 2012, 13, and 14, we weren't in like absolute crisis when Obama was president, to be perfectly honest.
00:23:38.000 But then, soon, I mean, we almost, any years that we had off, boy, COVID changed everything.
00:23:45.000 And now we are in this just widespread, nonstop rolling crisis.
00:23:50.000 And that is a sign that there is an illegitimate regime.
00:23:54.000 When you can't detach from the idea of an emergency, it means there's a group of people who are afraid they're going to lose power.
00:24:04.000 The emergency powers keep them in office.
00:24:08.000 It keeps them entrenched and it keeps them necessary.
00:24:16.000 And so Bobby Kennedy's saying this, and he says it really well.
00:24:18.000 All the three-letter agencies have thought about pandemics for 100 years, and they've worked very carefully of pandemic preparedness.
00:24:25.000 Let's go to Cut 67, Robert Kennedy Jr. on the Democrat Party.
00:24:28.000 Play Cut 67.
00:24:31.000 I will say, whether he's on Twitter or not, whether he's making his own decisions, the decisions that are coming out of the White House are bad decisions.
00:24:40.000 And, you know, the Democratic Party does not censor people in my experience.
00:24:46.000 We're not the party of war.
00:24:48.000 We're not the party of the neocons dictating foreign policy.
00:24:52.000 We're the party of the middle class and we're the party of working people.
00:24:55.000 And that's not where the party is anymore.
00:25:00.000 Now, I find it interesting that the audience applauded that because he is now trying to recenter the Democrat Party to be what actually the MAGA base is.
00:25:10.000 Not from necessarily a policy perspective, but at least from a representative standpoint.
00:25:17.000 Who's in charge?
00:25:18.000 The Democrat Party has become this unsustainable, temporary fusion of two groups: elite, hyper-educated, wealthy, white, secular liberals and government-dependent minorities.
00:25:41.000 That's the fusion.
00:25:43.000 It is upper-middle-class, white liberal, secular, college-educated.
00:25:50.000 Think of suburbs of Denver, Winnetka, Auburn Hills, Haverford.
00:26:00.000 Think of Greenwich, Connecticut.
00:26:03.000 Think those kind of neighborhoods.
00:26:05.000 So basically, it's the ideological believers, the zealots that read the New York Times.
00:26:12.000 I know, I read the New York Times every day, so you don't have to.
00:26:15.000 To actually believe this stuff, it requires a college degree to have the secret gnosis, the secret knowledge.
00:26:21.000 Understand what the heck they're saying. 1.00
00:26:22.000 It's just a bunch of garbage. 1.00
00:26:24.000 Fused together with people addicted to the payoffs that keep those believers in power. 1.00
00:26:31.000 That's the temporary marriage.
00:26:33.000 And I don't think that's sustainable.
00:26:37.000 I don't think it's sustainable for a couple reasons. 0.94
00:26:40.000 Number one, I think the trans thing could be a glitch in the matrix with black men. 1.00
00:26:46.000 Honestly, black women are so unbelievably loyal to the Democrat Party, it's not going to happen anytime soon. 0.96
00:26:54.000 All you have to do is win one in five black men. 0.97
00:26:58.000 By the way, Tucker Carlson's conversation with Ice Cube, super interesting.
00:27:03.000 He didn't say he liked Trump or didn't have really good things to say about Biden, but black men, I think, are poised to defect from the Democrat Party in big numbers.
00:27:16.000 So, what Kennedy is saying is saying, look, this is what the Democrat Party should stand for.
00:27:20.000 We're not the party of neocons.
00:27:22.000 Well, that's not true.
00:27:23.000 Neocons have completely taken over the Democrat Party. 0.99
00:27:26.000 In fact, the Democrat Party is more on board with what's happening in Ukraine than what is happening in the Republican Party.
00:27:34.000 Here's a good question for you: if you put together the largest Democrat activist convention or event, the largest one, and you let them all speak, and then you took a straw poll of 7,000 of them, what percentage of them would support U.S. involvement in Ukraine?
00:27:50.000 Probably 50-50 at like the absolute best reading, but I think it would be 70-30 in support of intervention.
00:27:57.000 It was 96% against at our turning point action conference, which segues into RFKs talking about NATO and talking about Ukraine.
00:28:10.000 Play cut 66.
00:28:13.000 James Baker, who was then Secretary of State under Bush, famously promised we will not move NATO one inch to the east.
00:28:21.000 Well, since then, we've moved it 1,000 miles in 14 countries.
00:28:26.000 Now, when we started that plan in 1997, Bill Perry, who was the Secretary of Defense under Clinton, said to the Clinton administration, if you move NATO to the East, I'm resigning because you are forcing the Russians to come to war with us.
00:28:42.000 George Cannon, who's the most important diplomat in American history, the architect of the containment policy during World War II, said the same thing.
00:28:50.000 You do not need to make an enemy out of Russia.
00:28:54.000 Russia should be treated the way we won the Cold War. 0.99
00:28:59.000 Why are we treating Russia like an enemy?
00:29:02.000 I'm telling you, there is something, it might not happen this election cycle.
00:29:06.000 The bad guys might win.
00:29:08.000 There is a realignment happening in real time, and this is beyond right versus left.
00:29:13.000 There is so much, well, it's what I call buffet line politics, buffet line politics is about to occur.
00:29:21.000 The way politics has been working is: look at the menu, you get the red menu or the blue menu.
00:29:27.000 And increasingly, the populace is kind of doing buffet line politics.
00:29:31.000 Well, I kind of like what he says here, and I don't like that, and I certainly don't like that, but I want more of that.
00:29:38.000 You can customize almost anything in life.
00:29:41.000 And I'm not recommending multiple parties or whatever, but I'm saying that there's an imbalance.
00:29:47.000 There's an incompatibility with this.
00:29:51.000 If one in five black men who usually vote, that's important, if one in five black men who usually vote vote for Donald Trump and or vote for Cornell West, this could easily be won by Donald Trump.
00:30:06.000 One in five black men, one in five black men.
00:30:10.000 I'm going to play some pieces of tape here, Cornell West.
00:30:13.000 But the takeaway is this: if you think that politics as we know it is going to continue, you're wrong.
00:30:20.000 I don't know what that looks like.
00:30:21.000 It could be multiple parties, multiple options, no labels, people transferring parties.
00:30:27.000 When you get out of a crisis, people's politics can get very weird and strange, unpredictable, especially in the era of technology where some can go viral in a moment's notice.
00:30:38.000 Do not be surprised if one of these candidates catch fires.
00:30:41.000 Do not underestimate them.
00:30:43.000 They're speaking the language of the ordinary people.
00:30:46.000 And you contrast that with Joe Biden, who can't speak at all.
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00:32:06.000 I've been following this guy for years.
00:32:08.000 He's not a dummy.
00:32:08.000 I mean, his ideas are really toxic to the Republic.
00:32:11.000 Cornell West, I'd love to have him on the show and talk about it.
00:32:15.000 I mean, we agree on some stuff.
00:32:16.000 His foreign policy stuff is interesting.
00:32:18.000 But I'll tell you, if he wants to, he could really throw a curveball into this presidential race, specifically in Georgia and Wisconsin.
00:32:29.000 Cornell West is an intellectual from Princeton.
00:32:32.000 He speaks the language of black resentment politics better than anybody else. 0.94
00:32:41.000 He's really talented at channeling resentment in the black community. 1.00
00:32:46.000 He calls it justice and truth and all that.
00:32:49.000 But do not underestimate resent-driven politics, especially from a talented black politician.
00:32:59.000 Do not underestimate that.
00:33:01.000 The Democrat Party should be very nervous about it.
00:33:04.000 So let me just play some pieces of tape.
00:33:06.000 This guy's, he's got a good shtick.
00:33:08.000 He is talented.
00:33:09.000 You got this with RFK Jr.
00:33:10.000 Again, we're keeping our eye on the landscape because people say, how do we win?
00:33:13.000 How do we win?
00:33:14.000 I think, look, the Republican Party is a waste of time, but you're looking at it too binary.
00:33:18.000 I think we're going to have this mess.
00:33:20.000 I think we're going to have this pote-parie.
00:33:23.000 If you think you know what the race is going to look like, you're wrong.
00:33:28.000 I'm not saying that Cornell West is going to become president.
00:33:30.000 That's not going to happen.
00:33:31.000 Could Cornell West win a couple hundred thousand votes in Atlanta?
00:33:34.000 Yes.
00:33:36.000 People do not like Joe Biden.
00:33:38.000 This race is ripe to be shattered apart, ripe to be shattered apart, which would improve Donald Trump's chances significantly because Donald Trump's 40 to 45 percent is immovable.
00:33:49.000 There is nothing that will move that.
00:33:52.000 Don't underestimate this guy.
00:33:53.000 They're going to do everything they can to social media suppress him, to debank him.
00:33:57.000 This is a glitch in the matrix, even more than RFK Jr., especially in the states of Wisconsin and Atlanta, where there are significant black population. 0.96
00:34:04.000 Remember, in 2016, McMuffin and Jill Stein and Ron Johnson, they all got third-party votes.
00:34:11.000 That very well could have helped Donald Trump.
00:34:13.000 Cut 70, he's got this black preacher voice. 0.85
00:34:15.000 You got to admit, this is some powerful stuff.
00:34:17.000 Play Cut 70.
00:34:18.000 The Democratic Party is so unsocratic as well as undemocratic.
00:34:22.000 I'm still upset because it didn't treat my dear brother Bernie Wright twice, but they're unsocratic.
00:34:28.000 Examine yourself.
00:34:30.000 Examine why it is you did not speak to the issues of poor and working people and therefore you lost.
00:34:37.000 If you'd rather lose than really change and examine yourself, then you're going to have third parties popping up all over the place because, and what's the discourse?
00:34:47.000 We want to win the next election and we're concerned about the spoiler.
00:34:50.000 Hey, I thought you were concerned about public life.
00:34:53.000 I thought you were concerned about the quality of the life of citizens.
00:34:57.000 Oh, he's smooth.
00:35:00.000 He's smooth.
00:35:01.000 This guy has made a career, a successful career communicating.
00:35:08.000 Again, he's got a whole book.
00:35:09.000 One of his books is called Race Matters.
00:35:12.000 Okay.
00:35:12.000 No, it doesn't.
00:35:14.000 Put that aside.
00:35:15.000 If he comes on the show, I'm not even going to debate him because I think that's largely a waste of time.
00:35:18.000 I'd be more interested just to learn about why he's running and where we can agree because the disagreements are, I could do that with anybody. 0.88
00:35:27.000 71, he continues, part of the challenge, again, he calls Trump a gangster and a neo-fascist, whatever. 0.84
00:35:33.000 He can win black voters. 0.93
00:35:38.000 He can go into Atlanta and he can say, brothers and sisters, the Truth and Justice Party, and he could do the black preacher thing in the South against Joe Biden who can't even talk.
00:35:51.000 The black community, this is an interesting thing.
00:35:54.000 White liberals have fomented rage and used black rage to give themselves political power. 0.93
00:36:02.000 Be careful. 0.99
00:36:04.000 You created this political machine built on black resentment, and now it could be used against you, white liberals. 0.97
00:36:12.000 Play cut 71. 0.86
00:36:14.000 Well, I mean, part of the challenge, my dear sister, is that, you know, you got Trump. 0.99
00:36:18.000 He's certainly a gangster, neo-fascist. 0.95
00:36:21.000 He's, in many ways, promoting, if not promoting, that's too strong a word. 0.86
00:36:27.000 One effect of his work is to move toward a second civil war.
00:36:33.000 With Biden, he's better in some ways on domestic issues, but he's leading us toward a third world war.
00:36:41.000 So if we choose between the second civil war and the third world war, where are we?
00:36:46.000 We're between a rock and a hard place.
00:36:48.000 And that's where so many of us find ourselves.
00:36:52.000 It's very clever framing.
00:36:54.000 Very clever framing.
00:36:58.000 If I obviously disagree with it, you guys know I disagree.
00:37:01.000 Okay, this is the Charlie Kirk show.
00:37:02.000 This is not the Rachel Maddow hour.
00:37:04.000 We're looking at this more macro.
00:37:05.000 What are the implications?
00:37:07.000 And if I was a white liberal, I would not be overly confident in Joe Biden's ability to talk. 0.55
00:37:13.000 Criminal son, low approval ratings, ascendant talented black preacher, no labels party. 0.99
00:37:20.000 Then you got RFK Jr.
00:37:23.000 This is not going according to the plan.
00:37:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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