The Charlie Kirk Show - The Process is the Penalty with John Eastman and Rep. Andrew Clyde

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00:01:18.000 Joining us now is Representative Andrew Clyde.

00:01:21.000 Congressman, thank you for joining us.

00:01:23.000 He tweeted out, the American people gets to decide who wins the White House, not the deep state.

00:01:27.000 We must defund the left sham prosecutions against Donald Trump.

00:01:31.000 Republican lawmaker unveils push to block funding for Trump prosecutions, obviously.

00:01:37.000 But this was met with opposition by 16 Republicans.

00:01:42.000 Inexplicably, we will name their names shortly.

00:01:46.000 Actually, we'll get to that second.

00:01:48.000 Congressman, thank you for joining us and tell us about it.

00:01:51.000 Well, thank you, Charlie.

00:01:52.000 It's great to be with you.

00:01:54.000 Well, I think it's important that, as you said, the American people decide who our next president is going to be and not the deep state, not a weaponized government.

00:02:05.000 And we are seeing time after time where the federal government is being used to prosecute a political candidate.

00:02:13.000 That doesn't happen in America.

00:02:15.000 That's kind of the conduct that you see in banana republics, where the sitting, those in power use their power to prosecute and try and throw in jail their political opponent.

00:02:26.000 So these two amendments, one would defund from the federal level any funds going to the prosecution of a presidential candidate between now and the November 24 elections.

00:02:39.000 Okay.

00:02:40.000 And then the other amendment would do the same thing.

00:02:42.000 It would deny federal funding to any state entity that does the same thing, that prosecutes a presidential candidate.

00:02:49.000 You know, it's very even-handed, both Republican or Democrat.

00:02:53.000 So what I'm trying to do is prevent the process from becoming the penalty here, because that's exactly what the left, the weaponized left is trying to do, because you can't recover from the process.

00:03:06.000 So how is this being met by, and I was talking about actually when you tried to defund the FBI headquarters.

00:03:11.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:03:12.000 How is this being met by your more moderate Republican colleagues?

00:03:18.000 Well, so far, for those that I have spoken to on the appropriations committee and in leadership, it's being met very positively.

00:03:26.000 I think it's the right thing to do.

00:03:28.000 There's still some work to be done.

00:03:30.000 So I'm calling on all of my Republican colleagues to support these amendments.

00:03:35.000 It's going to have to go into the Commerce Justice Science Appropriation, which has not yet been marked up in our appropriations committee.

00:03:41.000 I'm on that committee.

00:03:43.000 And so I'll be offering both of those amendments.

00:03:45.000 And I expect that they will be approved and go into the base text of the bill.

00:03:50.000 But then if we do a CR as well, you know, there's some qualifications for any CR to go forward, in my opinion, then it would have to be part of the CR as well.

00:04:01.000 So I think it's very, very important that all the Republicans get on board and support these amendments.

00:04:07.000 So there was also a question about blocking the FBI's new headquarters.

00:04:12.000 And is it true that 16 Republicans got in the way of that, Congressman, when you were attempting to do that?

00:04:18.000 Tell us about it.

00:04:19.000 Well, that was in the markup for the financial services and general government appropriation.

00:04:25.000 And there is about $670 million that was set aside for the FBI's new building.

00:04:30.000 It's about a little over half the amount that currently exists.

00:04:34.000 The whole project is like $4 billion. 0.63

00:04:36.000 It's going to be bigger than the Pentagon in size, which is absolutely ridiculous.

00:04:41.000 The FBI does not need it.

00:04:42.000 So I introduced an amendment to defund that $670 million and to apply that to our national debt to pay off that portion of our national debt.

00:04:52.000 And it did not pass in the appropriations process.

00:04:57.000 We had 16 Republicans that voted against it.

00:04:59.000 Now, I'll tell you that after that vote, there were some that came to me and said, hey, I think I made the wrong vote.

00:05:05.000 And we're going to give them another opportunity when that actual appropriation comes to the House floor.

00:05:10.000 I'm going to introduce the same amendment again.

00:05:12.000 And I think there will be some change of heart, I believe, when it comes to their vote on that amendment on the House floor.

00:05:21.000 So, yeah, there was a list of 16 Republicans that resisted it.

00:05:25.000 Is that correct?

00:05:26.000 And I want to name that correct.

00:05:28.000 Okay, so I want to name them.

00:05:29.000 And if I have the wrong list, correct me.

00:05:31.000 But it looks as if it's Steve Womack, David Voladeo, Mike Simpson, Hal Rogers, Daniel Newhouse, Julia Latau, David Joyce, Ashley Henson, Kay Granger, Scott Franklin, Jake Elzey, Mario Diaz-Ballart, Juan Siscamani, Jerry Carl, Ken Calvert, Mark Ahmadi, and Robert Alderhalt.

00:05:53.000 What possible reason could they give you for opposing that?

00:05:57.000 Well, not a lot of them gave me a reason at all.

00:06:01.000 But mind you, some of them came to me after the fact and said, hey, I think I made the wrong choice.

00:06:07.000 Why?

00:06:08.000 Because they were hearing from their constituents.

00:06:09.000 The FBI does not need a new building.

00:06:12.000 I mean, they've got $1.2 billion set aside, $670 or so million in financial services general government appropriation and another $500-some million in the Commerce, Justice, Science appropriation.

00:06:26.000 So I think these folks will probably take a strong second look when the amendment comes onto the House floor for the FBI building.

00:06:37.000 And I believe that there will be some change of votes.

00:06:42.000 I really do.

00:06:43.000 And I hope so, because that's the right thing to do.

00:06:46.000 The FBI have been so weaponized as of in the last couple of years under this current administration.

00:06:52.000 There is truly a two-tiered system of justice here.

00:06:56.000 We are seeing it time and time again when you have the treatment of Hunter Biden, and then you have the treatment of President Trump and all of those who support the conservative voices that are crying out.

00:07:10.000 So I think we're going to see some different votes here.

00:07:14.000 So let's now focus on September 30th.

00:07:16.000 This looks to be the big day, right?

00:07:18.000 So a previous Congress punted it to really neuter you guys.

00:07:22.000 So this date has been on the calendar for quite some time.

00:07:25.000 So you're inheriting a previous Congress's funding deadline, September 30th.

00:07:31.000 What are you guys willing to do?

00:07:32.000 Our position on this program, no short-term funding bills, line in the sand.

00:07:37.000 We need to fight.

00:07:38.000 We gave you guys a majority for a reason.

00:07:40.000 Where is your head at?

00:07:41.000 What are the asks?

00:07:43.000 Are you willing?

00:07:44.000 How close to the line are you guys willing to get?

00:07:46.000 Walk us through it.

00:07:47.000 Well, I'll tell you, first off, you know, we've known this September 30th deadline has been here for a long time.

00:07:53.000 And we promised as Republicans that we would bring 12 appropriation bills out of committee onto the House floor.

00:08:00.000 And I expect us to do that.

00:08:03.000 I expect us to keep our word.

00:08:04.000 I'm on the Appropriations Committee.

00:08:05.000 I'm certainly willing to be there from today until the very end of September so that we can get all these, the rest of the appropriation bills across the finish line.

00:08:15.000 10 of them have come out of committee already.

00:08:17.000 We've got two left to deal with in committee.

00:08:21.000 Both the Labor Health Human Services Education Appropriation and the Commerce Justice Science Appropriation.

00:08:27.000 Those are the two we have left in committee.

00:08:29.000 But we've got 10 that are available to go to the House floor.

00:08:32.000 Actually, one already has the MILCON VA passed in July.

00:08:37.000 So we've got nine that can go immediately to the House floor and get a vote.

00:08:41.000 We need to be doing that to keep our word.

00:08:46.000 Any short-term continuing resolution, though, cannot be an unqualified or blind or what they call clean CR.

00:08:54.000 Otherwise, we are simply promoting the policies of the policy and the spending levels of Nancy Pelosi.

00:09:01.000 And that's wrong.

00:09:02.000 I will never support that.

00:09:04.000 And I'll tell you, a significant number of Republicans will not support that either.

00:09:09.000 So that message needs to be heard loud and clear by leadership.

00:09:12.000 So just really quick, Congressman, and I just, I'm hearing different things.

00:09:17.000 And I've always gotten along with Speaker McCarthy, and I still do.

00:09:20.000 But there's whispers that there might be a vote to vacate.

00:09:23.000 Are you hearing that from other members?

00:09:26.000 Well, I will tell you that a clean CR or an unqualified CR, it will risk our majority, and therefore it will risk the speakership.

00:09:35.000 I think what you're seeing is the country gave us the majority to change the direction, change the course of Congress.

00:09:43.000 We had the speakers fight in January, which I think fundamentally changed the way Congress operates.

00:09:49.000 And I think that has to continue or we will truly jeopardize our majority and we will jeopardize Kevin McCarthy as speaker.

00:09:57.000 There has to be some qualifications to any CR like HR2 that we all voted for should be attached to it.

00:10:03.000 We've got to stop the weaponization of our federal government on the Department of Justice.

00:10:08.000 And there can be, in my opinion, no new money for Ukraine.

00:10:13.000 None whatsoever.

00:10:14.000 That's right.

00:10:15.000 Absolutely.

00:10:16.000 Yes.

00:10:17.000 Congressman Clyde, thank you for taking the time.

00:10:19.000 We'll be watching very closely.

00:10:20.000 We believe there's been a 110-year war where the administrative state has been able to go unchecked.

00:10:26.000 And September 30th is the first time that we see the mandate from the voters, the majority, to finally defang the beast.

00:10:35.000 So we're with you 100%.

00:10:36.000 Red line, as red as a line can get.

00:10:38.000 Congressman, we're with you.

00:10:39.000 Thanks so much.

00:10:40.000 Thank you very much, Charlie.

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00:11:47.000 Do you remember the story about a young lady who was sexually assaulted by a transgender student in a restroom?

00:11:57.000 This story was covered up by the Loudoun County School District.

00:12:00.000 This story was so egregious, so terrible, that it very well might have triggered Glenn Young to become governor of Virginia.

00:12:11.000 And I do not want Glenn Young to run for the presidency.

00:12:14.000 He's a little too moderate for my liking on certain issues, but he's a very successful governor in a traditionally what's become a blue state.

00:12:21.000 And he has my respect for that.

00:12:23.000 So he also has my respect over what he did a couple of days ago, kind of bucking a more normy trend of what some Republican governors would do.

00:12:32.000 He went all in and did the right thing here.

00:12:34.000 So a father, Scott Thomas Smith, shows up at the school board and was trying to get the school board's attention that his daughter was raped and or sexually assaulted. 0.93

00:12:48.000 We don't know the details, but raped is not incorrect by a trans student. 1.00

00:12:54.000 And the school board covered it up because of course, the major institutions of power in this country will go to great lengths to pander to the trans lobby, the alphabet mafia, and the purple-haired jihadis. 0.52

00:13:06.000 The NCAA did this against Riley Gaines.

00:13:08.000 They'll do whatever, anything they have to do to pander to the trans. 0.98

00:13:13.000 They'll do that. 0.99

00:13:15.000 So this trans person who raped his daughter, he was trying to get the school board's attention. 1.00

00:13:21.000 Hey, these bathroom policies resulted in my daughter being raped. 0.99

00:13:26.000 He was confronted by an agitator and a massive verbal confrontation ensued. 0.97

00:13:33.000 He got upset and he should have got upset. 0.99

00:13:35.000 His daughter was raped. 0.75

00:13:38.000 But instead, he was charged with obstruction of justice and disorderly conduct. 0.85

00:13:46.000 The father was charged with obstruction of justice.

00:13:49.000 Let's get this picture here.

00:13:51.000 And here is a father who is just in a state of primal rage.

00:13:58.000 And boy, would I be in a state of primal rage.

00:14:00.000 And you, if you wouldn't be in a state of primal rage, I doubt your love of your daughter.

00:14:04.000 I'll be honest.

00:14:06.000 And of course, as the Democrats, that's him right there, begging for somebody to listen. 0.99

00:14:12.000 My daughter was raped by a trans person in a restroom. 1.00

00:14:16.000 My daughter was raped by a trans person in a restroom. 1.00

00:14:19.000 No one would listen. 1.00

00:14:20.000 Instead, the trans activists called him a domestic terrorist. 0.75

00:14:24.000 And the trans people get what they want. 0.98

00:14:27.000 He got indicted.

00:14:28.000 Not to mention the school board covered it up. 1.00

00:14:30.000 They sent the trans rapists to another school, where I believe the trans rapists raped again, if I'm not mistaken, if my memory serves me correctly. 0.99

00:14:39.000 They just sent him to another school and they covered it up, criminally covered it up. 0.98

00:14:43.000 So now this man, Scott Smith, was facing criminal charges and was convicted.

00:14:50.000 Governor Glenn Young, to his great credit, yesterday, issued a full and complete and absolute pardon for Scott Smith.

00:15:00.000 This is the right move, Glenn Young.

00:15:02.000 That's exactly right.

00:15:04.000 And Glenn Youngkin, in his interviews, has been unwavering, by the way, in his reason.

00:15:11.000 He didn't do this kind of like, well, you know, there's facts on both sides.

00:15:14.000 He leaned in.

00:15:16.000 I don't know if we have the tape or not.

00:15:17.000 It's fine.

00:15:18.000 He said he did what any father would have done.

00:15:20.000 It's the right answer, Glenn Young.

00:15:22.000 The 15-year-old attacker, the rapist, was found guilty of sexually assaulting his daughter and then did it again at a different school. 0.92

00:15:29.000 But of course, if you're trans, you get all the privileges. 0.99

00:15:33.000 The whole society will reconfigure itself because of your mental delusion and your mental illness, even though his daughter was raped. 0.99

00:15:42.000 This is the same state where a girl was basically transitioning by her transition by her school while keeping it secret from her parents, and this led to her getting sex trafficked. 1.00

00:15:52.000 Virginia schools are largely demented right now.

00:15:56.000 This is the right move by Youngkin.

00:15:57.000 This crisis is not going to fix itself overnight.

00:15:59.000 One of the reasons why Virginia schools are demented is because they're the richest counties in America.

00:16:04.000 And I say, what do you mean?

00:16:06.000 Wealth, secular wealth, merges seamlessly with academic wokeism.

00:16:14.000 Secular wealth and wokeism, it's like a marriage made in heaven. 0.92

00:16:19.000 It's a match made in heaven.

00:16:21.000 Because you have white liberals that, the wine moms, if you will, with these massive existential voids, and they try to fill it with something and they fill it with 1619 Project queer theory, and their kids become basically a petri dish for wokeism.

00:16:41.000 Very similar, by the way, to the Highland Park, Illinois Country Club story of the poverty simulation.

00:16:46.000 And a story where we get almost nothing but negative news in this news cycle.

00:16:51.000 This is a shining light.

00:16:53.000 Glenn Youngkin did the right thing here.

00:16:55.000 He should be praised.

00:16:56.000 And I hope more Republican office holders and leaders use their political power to defend parents.

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00:18:08.000 Joining us now is John Eastman, who is under attack in basically every possible and conceivable direction.

00:18:14.000 You guys can support him at givesendgo.com/slash Eastman.

00:18:19.000 John, thank you so much for taking the time.

00:18:21.000 John, give us the update, not just the indictments of what's happening in Georgia, but there's this disbarment saga that's that's playing out.

00:18:28.000 Tell us about it.

00:18:29.000 Multi-front war against John Eastman.

00:18:32.000 Well, the disbarment proceedings have been going on since June.

00:18:36.000 We had to stop for a bit over the summer due to conflicts and lawyer schedules, but we're now entering week five, and there will be at least another week, six weeks of full trial addressing claims against me that were initiated by this A radical left-wing group called States United Democracy Center.

00:18:57.000 And this is part of the overall effort to disbar every attorney that had any involvement with the Trump legal challenges in 2020.

00:19:06.000 But more importantly, as its sister-in-arms cohort, the 65 Project founders said, our goal is not just to disbar these attorneys, but to make them so toxic in their firms and in their communities that right-wing legal talent will never want to take on these election challenges again.

00:19:23.000 In other words, they want to destroy our adversarial system of justice in the election context, and quite frankly, elsewhere as well, whether it's any conservative cause, whether it's vaccine issues, whether it's transgender men in your daughter's locker rooms or competing against them in the swim meets or what have you.

00:19:43.000 They want to scare conservative lawyers away from taking on those representations.

00:19:48.000 And the cost they're trying to impose on me and my family, millions of dollars in legal fees, is having its effect.

00:19:57.000 People are scared to stand up.

00:19:59.000 Well, I wish maybe I was more scared, but I'm taking it on and fighting it with everything we got because our ability to be a free people is at stake here, in my view.

00:20:13.000 Yeah, it's the entire constitutional republic that's at stake.

00:20:16.000 I mean, John, I read the indictment.

00:20:19.000 It seems as if they're criminalizing, first and foremost, being a lawyer.

00:20:23.000 This is the buried lead here: you're allowed to have private consultations with your clients.

00:20:30.000 This is extraordinary, John, where they are trying to go after the practice of representing clients that the regime doesn't like.

00:20:38.000 No, that's right.

00:20:39.000 And their tenuous hook on that is: well, you know, lawyers aren't allowed to work with clients to commit crimes.

00:20:47.000 And the crime, supposedly, is that we continued to challenge the results of the election after some government officials said there wasn't anything to see here.

00:20:57.000 Bill Barr famously said, without having ever done any investigations of substance, that, well, I find no evidence of significant enough fraud to have altered the election.

00:21:07.000 Well, he didn't talk about the illegality, which is acknowledged.

00:21:10.000 He didn't talk about the fact that he didn't really do any investigations.

00:21:13.000 He didn't talk about the fact that when the investigations were getting started, he personally called to shut them down.

00:21:20.000 And we're just supposed to bend our knee because somebody in the establishment wing of the Republican Party or leading Democrats in state offices have said there's nothing to see here.

00:21:30.000 Move on.

00:21:30.000 Be good little sheep.

00:21:32.000 And that's what's at issue.

00:21:34.000 And it's not a crime to challenge illegality in the election.

00:21:38.000 In fact, it's our birthright.

00:21:39.000 It's called free speech.

00:21:41.000 It's called the right to petition our government for redress of grievances.

00:21:45.000 And if they succeed in criminalizing that with creative and expansive, clever interpretations of federal or state criminal law, we're done.

00:21:56.000 And that's why I'm fighting with everything I got.

00:21:58.000 And I know President Trump is.

00:21:59.000 And I know the others on that Georgia indictment list are.

00:22:03.000 And I know the unindicted co-conspirators in the federal action are as well.

00:22:07.000 I mean, there is a lot at stake here.

00:22:09.000 And I know you know this, Charlie.

00:22:10.000 And, you know, people are waking up to it on our side of the aisle.

00:22:15.000 Not enough yet.

00:22:16.000 We need to expose what's going on and be very clear, crystal clear.

00:22:20.000 This is a moment of clarity for the country.

00:22:22.000 And we've got too many people sitting on the sidelines at the moment.

00:22:26.000 But these really are what Thomas Paine, you know, remember, 200 years, Thomas Paine said, these are the times that try men's souls.

00:22:33.000 And what we need are true patriots, not summer soldiers or sunshine patriots, people that are only patriotic when the times are good.

00:22:41.000 That's right.

00:22:42.000 And so, John, if you watch MSNBC, they've kind of turned you into the poster child for overturning democracy.

00:22:51.000 What is your response to that?

00:22:53.000 Well, you know, they've got not a shred of evidence to support that.

00:22:57.000 Their claim is that I was trying to investigate to get the actual winner of the election certified, whoever that was.

00:23:04.000 That would be in favor of democracy, not overturning it.

00:23:08.000 They have to begin with the premise that the election was free and fair and that Biden clearly won in order to make that kind of charge.

00:23:15.000 And that's the very thing that is so hotly in dispute.

00:23:18.000 It was at the time.

00:23:19.000 It remains so because our efforts to investigate were thwarted at every turn.

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:25.000 And so then you have this idea of co-conspirators.

00:23:29.000 Do you have any idea of timeline?

00:23:31.000 And it just seems as if, I mean, this Fulton County district attorney is not serious people.

00:23:36.000 This is not well thought through.

00:23:39.000 It's legally full of holes.

00:23:41.000 But now you're going to have to mount a very serious defense against this, you know, aggressive Fulton County DA.

00:23:48.000 By the way, there's typos in their indictment and they send out grand jury reports.

00:23:52.000 I mean, this is not exactly the all-star squad of prosecutors.

00:23:57.000 So, John, walk us through the coming timeline.

00:24:00.000 Sir, but they are getting, I think, a lot of help from all-star squads behind the scenes.

00:24:05.000 We've seen some evidence of that.

00:24:07.000 Look, the fact that they published the indictment on the court's website before the grand jury even met to hand down the indictment raises serious constitutional questions on whether a grand jury composed of citizens rather than the prosecutor herself is the one that brought this indictment.

00:24:26.000 Two of the co-defendants, Ken Chisbrow and Sidney Powell, filed notices of speedy trial, as is their constitutional right.

00:24:35.000 And the judge has ordered that those trials proceed beginning October 23rd.

00:24:41.000 The rest of the co-defendants, I think all the other 17, myself included, President Trump included, Rudy Giuliani included, among others, have filed a notice motion to sever from that speedy trial because they're going to hand over next Friday two terabytes of discovery materials and expect us to go through all that in a couple of weeks in preparation of trial.

00:25:04.000 It's absurd.

00:25:05.000 And so I think the judge has already indicated he's going to allow the severance and allow trial on a more timely timeframe.

00:25:12.000 But Fannie Willis is running for Attorney General of the state of Georgia.

00:25:15.000 She's made very clear that this is her campaign pitch. 0.99

00:25:19.000 She's raising money off of it.

00:25:20.000 All of this is untoward. 1.00

00:25:22.000 And she's doing it using creative interpretations to put the most neutral gloss on it one can of Georgia racketeering law. 0.93

00:25:35.000 That somehow the political campaign itself was a racketeering enterprise.

00:25:40.000 She's got a charge against me for soliciting elected officials to violate their oath of office because I testified before the Georgia legislature was called to testify at their request about the legal authority the legislature had if it determined the election had been conducted illegally.

00:25:58.000 There's nothing wrong about that.

00:26:01.000 And it's certainly not soliciting them to violate their oath of office.

00:26:05.000 It's soliciting them, petitioning them to do the investigation that's necessary to determine what, if anything, they needed to do in order to uphold their oath of office.

00:26:14.000 So all of this is distorted.

00:26:16.000 And yet it's scoring political points with a hallelujah chorus in the mainstream media that supports every chink that can be brought against President Trump. 1.00

00:26:26.000 Here's Cut 25.

00:26:27.000 It's Newt Gingrich playing into this idea that Fulton County is a proxy of the wishes and wants of Washington, D.C., play cut 25.

00:26:36.000 That I am told, this is hearsay, but I am told by a reliable source that Friday evening, somebody from Washington called the District Attorney in Atlanta and said, you have to indict on Monday.

00:26:48.000 We have to cover up all of the mistakes we just made with Weiss.

00:26:52.000 And she said, apparently, my jurors aren't coming back till Tuesday.

00:26:56.000 And they said, you didn't hear me.

00:26:58.000 You have to indict on Monday.

00:27:00.000 And she said, well, they're not going to get here before noon.

00:27:03.000 They said, that doesn't matter.

00:27:04.000 She said, this means it's going to be eight or nine or 10 o'clock at night.

00:27:07.000 Said, it doesn't matter.

00:27:09.000 We need the news media shifting.

00:27:11.000 Who made that phone call?

00:27:14.000 We don't know.

00:27:15.000 And I'm telling you up front, this is hearsay, but it's from a person who has remarkably totally believe it, though, because that would explain why they leaked and they messed up on the clerk document, why she was exhausted and why they had the 11 p.m. press conference, Mr. Speaker.

00:27:30.000 John, your reaction.

00:27:31.000 Well, I saw that, Charlie, when it came out, and it's explosive.

00:27:36.000 I hope eventually we get to the bottom of that because it shows not just a corruption in the abuse of the Georgia criminal statutes, but a corruption in the very notion of the grand jury process.

00:27:47.000 Grand juries are there to serve as a check against political prosecutions.

00:27:52.000 And if the grand jury was kind of an afterthought in this, that the indictment had already been drafted, that they were not really the ones that made the indictment decisions, then that's a huge constitutional problem.

00:28:04.000 And I suspect during the course of the trial and the discovery back and forth, we will get to the bottom of it because that's a huge expose.

00:28:11.000 Can you say the link again, John, how people can support you?

00:28:14.000 Replug that, please.

00:28:16.000 Givesendgo.com/slash Eastman.

00:28:19.000 It's a terrific site.

00:28:20.000 We use it for updates.

00:28:22.000 We use it for people to send us financial support because we need it.

00:28:26.000 It's millions of dollars that we're dealing with.

00:28:28.000 And we also use it.

00:28:29.000 People are able to send prayers, which my wife and I read, and they're heartwarming, and they help in our darker moments.

00:28:38.000 John, walk us through the legal technicalities of appealing to have this in federal court versus state court.

00:28:46.000 I'm still just shocked that we're putting up with a local DA indicting a former president for activities he did while his president and then indicting his lawyers for advice he gave the president while president, John Eastman.

00:28:59.000 And indicting other federal officials like Jeff Clark, who was assistant attorney general at the Department of Justice, and electors who are federal officials as well.

00:29:09.000 So there's a federal statute that says if you've got a criminal charge brought against federal officers for work they did while they were federal officials within the scope of their federal duties, that they can remove that to federal court.

00:29:23.000 This is a function of the supremacy clause of the Constitution.

00:29:26.000 I mean, think about every county, every local DA, if they could prosecute federal officials, it would shut the federal government down for anything the states didn't want the federal government doing in the valid exercise of its powers.

00:29:40.000 So that statute's there.

00:29:42.000 Mark Meadows brought the first one of those.

00:29:44.000 His hearing was held last week, and unfortunately, the judge denied his request for removal, but that was immediately appealed to the 11th federal U.S. Circuit Court.

00:29:56.000 Several others, the electors, Jeff Clark, and I think President Trump likely are filing motions to remove as well.

00:30:03.000 And then the big question is: if any one of those gets granted, does it take the whole case with them, as some case law suggests it must?

00:30:10.000 So stay tuned on that.

00:30:11.000 We may not be in the Fulton County state courtroom.

00:30:14.000 We may be in the federal U.S. District Court in Northern District of Georgia.

00:30:18.000 Yeah, the jurisdiction issues are remarkable.

00:30:22.000 And so have they notified you whether or not you're going to be tried with another defendant?

00:30:27.000 Because they're trying to do that with some of the other people they've indicted.

00:30:31.000 So all we know so far is that Sidney Powell and Ken Cheeseborough will be tried together on a speedy trial, very quick timeframe beginning October 23rd.

00:30:42.000 The judge has not ruled on whether all other co-defendants will be tried at the same time, but he sent a very strong signal last week that that was not going to be the case.

00:30:51.000 We expect to learn more today or tomorrow on that.

00:30:56.000 Ms. Willis is, of course, pushing hard to have this thing tried early in the spring, right in the middle of the primary season for the election for president.

00:31:07.000 Just like the judge up in D.C. has scheduled the trial to begin the day before Super Tuesday on the Washington, D.C. charges against President Trump.

00:31:17.000 Anybody that doesn't think that this is political should watch that timeline because it's overtly political and they're stretching the law in order to interfere with the presidential election.

00:31:29.000 I mean, there's no two ways about it.

00:31:31.000 It is a direct and total interference and destruction of a presidential election.

00:31:36.000 They're trying to abolish the election.

00:31:38.000 They're destroying it.

00:31:39.000 They don't want elections.

00:31:41.000 They don't want the will of the people to remain.

00:31:44.000 And so, and then now that enters all these other issues of Jack Smith and how that relates with Fannie Willis.

00:31:54.000 And the judge, is there any indication of this judge in Georgia from any pretrial motions that's willing to push back on Fannie Willis?

00:32:04.000 Or is this kind of a corrupt deal as they've set it up so far?

00:32:09.000 So what we've seen so far of this judge is encouraging.

00:32:13.000 He's a relatively new judge.

00:32:14.000 He's in his mid-30s.

00:32:18.000 But the hearings he's conducted so far has been by the book. 0.71

00:32:23.000 Fanny Willis was obviously trying, okay, if we're going to do a speedy trial, we're going to do all 19 of them at the same time.

00:32:28.000 And he hasn't issued a ruling on that yet, but strongly came down and says it's just not going to be possible.

00:32:35.000 I mean, one, even on a regular timeframe, on a trial of this size, you're not going to be able to try 19 people at the same time.

00:32:43.000 I mean, you've got competing motions.

00:32:45.000 You don't have a courtroom big enough to handle all the 19 teams of lawyers that are going to be involved or the 19 defendants.

00:32:52.000 So, you know, this judge, though new, seems to understand the terrible impracticalities of doing what DA Fanny Willis has requested.

00:33:03.000 We don't know yet what the order is going to come down, but so far, he looked like he was a very strong judge and kind of knew the dynamics at play here.

00:33:14.000 John Eastman, excellent commentary.

00:33:17.000 We are behind you 100%.

00:33:20.000 It's givesendgo.com/slash Eastman.

00:33:22.000 Please join again soon.

00:33:23.000 Thank you.

00:33:24.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:33:25.000 Take care.

00:33:25.000 Thank you.

00:33:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:30.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:34.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 11, 2023

The Process is the Penalty with John Eastman and Rep. Andrew Clyde

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