The Charlie Kirk Show - The Providential Nature of the 2020 Defeat

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:09.000 Without further ado, Steve K. Bannon.

00:01:20.000 Oh, he's got his Washington book.

00:01:22.000 That's when you know it's serious.

00:01:24.000 Officer on deck.

00:01:26.000 I like that.

00:01:28.000 Take your seats.

00:01:28.000 If you got them, smoke them.

00:01:33.000 Stephen K. Bannon, it's an honor to have you here.

00:01:36.000 This was a tradition that started with Charlie.

00:01:39.000 You guys would basically do this interview every Amfest, sometimes Student Action Summit.

00:01:46.000 And so thank you for making the time to sit down with us.

00:01:48.000 The first time it really hit me that, I think I told you, the first time it hit me that Charlie was gone was because, you know, I came to Utah those days and spent a couple days with you guys.

00:01:58.000 But the first time it hit me was when you two came up to do the transition on the show, which we always do at Amfest live, right?

00:02:09.000 So yeah, we were texting about it the night before.

00:02:12.000 And you were the one who said it's tradition.

00:02:13.000 We have to do it.

00:02:14.000 We got to do it.

00:02:15.000 Well, Charlie, you guys start the show spring of 22 on RAV?

00:02:19.000 Well, on RAV, it was July 2022.

00:02:22.000 July 2022.

00:02:23.000 And you guys had the podcast.

00:02:25.000 You had had a show.

00:02:26.000 We started it in May of 2019.

00:02:28.000 And we were just doing once a week, actually, at first.

00:02:31.000 Charlie didn't think it could fit much more into his schedule.

00:02:33.000 And then COVID happened, and he was like, let's do three times a week.

00:02:37.000 And I was like, okay, here we go.

00:02:38.000 And then literally within one week of doing three shows in a week, he was like, okay, let's do five.

00:02:44.000 Let's do five a week. 0.95

00:02:45.000 We're going to do five a week.

00:02:46.000 And then it was like, maybe more like 10 eventually.

00:02:49.000 He would just start just a content machine.

00:02:51.000 He was stuck because of COVID.

00:02:53.000 We couldn't do as much as we typically did.

00:02:56.000 It was no college tour, anything.

00:02:58.000 Yeah, so he was just like making my life miserable.

00:03:00.000 It was amazing.

00:03:01.000 And then COVID went away and he just kept doing it.

00:03:04.000 He did all this stuff.

00:03:05.000 Charlie was a, he managed by, you guys figured it out, right?

00:03:08.000 Figure it out.

00:03:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:09.000 It was pure chaos, pure insanity behind the scenes.

00:03:12.000 You know, he picks people so that they can figure it out.

00:03:14.000 He doesn't want to micromanage and just make it happen.

00:03:16.000 But look at this.

00:03:17.000 What, 31.

00:03:18.000 AmFest was always so big and so intense, right?

00:03:21.000 Student Action Summit's big, but it's got a different vibe to it, right?

00:03:25.000 Younger crowd.

00:03:25.000 It's mostly students.

00:03:26.000 Students and different breakout sessions.

00:03:29.000 AmFest, because you always have Vice President of the President of the United States.

00:03:32.000 I mean, the heaviest hitters you have in the political movement.

00:03:35.000 But to know that you've got 31,000.

00:03:37.000 And walking on that stage last night, when you look out there, you just see, I mean, it's got to, did you feel like 20,000?

00:03:45.000 You know what's crazy?

00:03:46.000 That room, I think, maxes out at like 18 or something.

00:03:50.000 Every week, we received 21,000 in there for Trump last year on the Sunday.

00:03:54.000 So he came, as I remember, it was his first kind of event after winning the election.

00:03:59.000 So he flew all the way out to Phoenix.

00:04:01.000 Trump does not like to go west that much.

00:04:04.000 He also doesn't overnight.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, right, exactly.

00:04:07.000 So he's got to be able to get in.

00:04:08.000 Everything is a day trip.

00:04:09.000 Exactly.

00:04:11.000 So, anyways, he came out for that 21,000.

00:04:13.000 I think that's the most we've ever fit inside the actual main ballroom.

00:04:17.000 So we're going to try and do something similar because there is 31,000 people at this event.

00:04:22.000 And I told people it's like, you know, somebody after Charlie died kind of thought, oh, we should probably look at Amfest tickets to see where we're at.

00:04:29.000 And instantly was like, I think we should probably turn off ticketing quickly.

00:04:35.000 Because of the 31,000, you still have another list who couldn't even get to it.

00:04:38.000 We could have doubled it.

00:04:40.000 Just to be perfectly clear, we could have sold 60,000.

00:04:42.000 No, I remember this because we did.

00:04:44.000 Charlie had come to us in August to make an early announcement.

00:04:47.000 In fact, I asked Charlie, I said, Are you guys going to have the stadium this year?

00:04:51.000 He goes, No, no, we're the same place.

00:04:52.000 I go, Early says, No, we just want to do it.

00:04:54.000 So we did announce it like on August 19th or 20th.

00:04:57.000 And then by the time, because normally we start selling them in October, and we always have a war room code so our people get a special deal.

00:05:04.000 So by the time everything got organized to really do the things and get the code, I think our team came in there and go, Hey, it's actually sold out.

00:05:14.000 Maybe we can fit some more people in.

00:05:15.000 Yeah, because Charlie was always, you know, we have this inside joke.

00:05:18.000 It's always like, more, more.

00:05:20.000 You know, in all our group chats since Charlie's was killed, just more, more.

00:05:25.000 So turning off the ticketing for this event was actually pretty traumatic for us because, you know, you got fire marshal stuff.

00:05:31.000 I mean, you saw night one, it was people, people were getting upset they couldn't get into the main ballroom space and it was just getting congested.

00:05:37.000 I mean, there is a fire marshal for a reason.

00:05:39.000 I mean, but we're an overflow.

00:05:41.000 Is that where the other technology is?

00:05:42.000 Yeah, we have a bunch of overflow, and basically all the media row booths are going to be having it up.

00:05:46.000 VIP is having it up.

00:05:47.000 Everywhere that, you know, for JD, especially, you know, guys like yourself, we want to make sure you can watch it in different various places if you can't get into the venue.

00:05:54.000 But it's a good problem to have, and we're going to be creative with solutions in the future, certainly.

00:06:00.000 But we've got some more surprises up our sleeve.

00:06:02.000 So even for this event.

00:06:04.000 The content is great, and the breakout sessions are amazing.

00:06:06.000 When you look through that schedule, everything you guys put up, it's amazing.

00:06:10.000 All the connection actually.

00:06:11.000 And the breakout sessions, as you said, were Charlie's, that was Charlie's favorites because that's not people talking on stage.

00:06:16.000 That's actually getting things done.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, I saw somebody on X saying, well, it would be nice to have some normal people instead of all these influencers up on stage.

00:06:25.000 They're like, have you looked at the breakout sessions?

00:06:27.000 Have you looked at everybody that's in the halls?

00:06:29.000 I mean, okay.

00:06:31.000 This is a populist movement.

00:06:32.000 All right.

00:06:33.000 You know, I'll never forget one time I ran into Stephen K. Bannon at the some hotel.

00:06:38.000 We were passing each other in South Florida, and I was like, Steve, are you coming to the gala tonight?

00:06:43.000 He goes, Man, I'm a populist.

00:06:44.000 I'm not going to that.

00:06:46.000 Don't do galaxies.

00:06:48.000 I was like, wait, no bow tie, no black tie for you.

00:06:50.000 I would love to see you come into event wearing your customary get up at a black tie.

00:07:00.000 It wasn't totally a black tie event, but I just gave away a Peter Navarre's bride at his wedding in Mar-Lago.

00:07:08.000 And I had a nicer version of this, but the version of this.

00:07:12.000 They wouldn't have felt comfortable.

00:07:13.000 It was very sweet.

00:07:16.000 They got engaged, I think, where he was in prison.

00:07:17.000 So this got murdered.

00:07:18.000 I know Maureen was your daughter was saying it was about time or something like that.

00:07:22.000 I was like, good for Peter.

00:07:24.000 Steve, there's been a lot of chatter about some of the things that have been said.

00:07:30.000 Has there been?

00:07:33.000 I missed that.

00:07:34.000 A little online chatter.

00:07:35.000 It's mostly getting drowned out by the thing.

00:07:37.000 No.

00:07:37.000 No, but it's also mainstream media.

00:07:39.000 I mean, the New York Times, Washington Post picked up Thursday night, obviously.

00:07:42.000 Media.

00:07:43.000 Then they picked up last night myself and Megan and Jack, right?

00:07:48.000 So it's what do you make of it?

00:07:51.000 Here's what I make of it.

00:07:52.000 I think this is what I tried to say last night.

00:07:54.000 And this is what part of the aspect maybe everybody didn't see of Charlie, because people know Charlie from Turning Point and the summits and Amfest and doing all this stuff and going to do the and doing change my mind all around.

00:08:13.000 Prove me wrong.

00:08:16.000 That's fine.

00:08:16.000 He couldn't change his mind.

00:08:17.000 Different influencers.

00:08:18.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:08:19.000 Different, different controversial online influencers.

00:08:23.000 Who's great, by the way?

00:08:25.000 But Charlie was also, I mean, in transition, well, first off, just in the campaign.

00:08:32.000 I mean, because of his judgment and understanding how things roll, he was one of the most senior advisors to the campaign.

00:08:39.000 And quite frankly, I think, given the grassroots nature and the turnout, which won everything, he was probably as influential as the campaign manager and other people because of knowing what to do.

00:08:51.000 Then on the transition, Charlie Kirk, I mean, he camped out in Mar-a-Lago.

00:08:56.000 That's where you guys were doing the show.

00:08:57.000 72 hours after the election, he was on a plane to Mar-a-Lago.

00:09:02.000 And I think stayed virtually the whole time.

00:09:04.000 He may come back a little.

00:09:05.000 I think you guys were in having to juggle the show with the way he was doing.

00:09:08.000 He was, I think, one of the two or three key advisors to the president of personnel, of particularly vetting and who was MAGA and who had President Trump's back.

00:09:19.000 Then when the administration started, Charlie spent, you know, and people didn't really understand this.

00:09:25.000 He spent so much time in the White House.

00:09:27.000 In the White House, he's working with Sergio Gore on personnel also, on doing the vetting.

00:09:31.000 Because remember, they got to get 3,000 people that are not, don't have to be confirmed in.

00:09:36.000 You've got to hit the deck place funny to flood the zone and Days of Thunder.

00:09:40.000 Also, 1,000 of the confirmation people all have to be vetted.

00:09:43.000 Charlie was given senior advice, and Trump respects his advice, respects the way he thinks, his judgment at 31 years old.

00:09:50.000 In addition, he's in big policy decisions.

00:09:55.000 Why?

00:09:56.000 Because people respect Charlie's opinion.

00:09:58.000 I mean, he comes at it with a certain sense of gravitas.

00:10:02.000 He's really, and that shows you from 18 to 31, those years really in political combat, he just, he had a learning curve.

00:10:11.000 Everything you guys did wasn't perfect at first, including when he first came to Breitbart, when you guys first did the big turnout thing in 22, everything.

00:10:20.000 But you're a learning organization.

00:10:22.000 Your learning curve is like that, right?

00:10:23.000 And it's just work and effort in Charlie and on policy.

00:10:27.000 And so in these policy debates in the summer of 2025, Charlie Kirk was one of the most important people because Charlie's also a networker.

00:10:37.000 He knows how to bring people together.

00:10:38.000 He knows how to get the best ideas out of them.

00:10:40.000 And so I think a lot of what you see on the stage, and Andrew was a big First Amendment free speech guy, and Charlie is too.

00:10:48.000 I mean, there's nothing closer to Charlie's heart than open debate.

00:10:51.000 But this is just not about, oh, is this guy in or that guy in or who's going to be, you know, even Vivek last night and Schneider.

00:10:59.000 And I respect both those guys, but they're talking about who's in, who's out.

00:11:03.000 People are going to decide that.

00:11:04.000 It's not for us to decide.

00:11:05.000 People are going to decide that.

00:11:07.000 But it's something deeper.

00:11:09.000 It's not just are they in or out or able to talk.

00:11:11.000 It's what are they talking about?

00:11:13.000 What are these big issues?

00:11:14.000 And that's why I wanted to bring up one last night that Charlie was key on.

00:11:18.000 It's one of four or five that we have to get decided, I think, relatively quickly.

00:11:24.000 And that's basically who governs this country, right?

00:11:27.000 And I say this, I think, from a position of strength because as someone that's actually been in the field running media companies and being a political activist, I don't think anybody out there has a record better than mine than Defense of Israel.

00:11:42.000 I am a Christian Zionist and I'm a Christian nationalist.

00:11:44.000 Now, I'm not a Christian Zionist like some people are, but I'm a Christian Zionist and a Christian nationalist.

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00:13:12.000 At Breitbart, Bar None, at Breitbart, when I ran it, it was the biggest offender of Israel going. 1.00

00:13:20.000 When I got to the White House, I was the lead on so many things, particularly trying to get the Muslim Brotherhood designated as a terrorist organization, of which I failed miserably.

00:13:28.000 It was the hardest thing we did, and it got nowhere.

00:13:31.000 The deep state inside the government shut it down.

00:13:34.000 But really, trying to move the embassy to Jerusalem, I wanted to do it day one.

00:13:40.000 My whole plan for day one, it was to have the president, because I wanted a populist. 0.64

00:13:47.000 I'm not a big gala guy.

00:13:48.000 I wanted, what I recommended was you have the ceremony and we give the speech and the things centered around the speech.

00:13:55.000 In fact, we should take the podium about halfway through the speech and turn it.

00:13:59.000 And he would just talk to the deep state that's all sitting there in those things.

00:14:04.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:14:05.000 Miller and I talked about it.

00:14:06.000 Could you, and then you have the camera view of President Trump with a million people in back of him, and he's just lecturing these guys, right?

00:14:13.000 Remember, Bush said after the speech, that's some crazy, right?

00:14:17.000 Just in the speech, we're going to give it to him.

00:14:19.000 Crazy.

00:14:20.000 So we rule that.

00:14:21.000 But instead of having the big lunch in the Capitol while people are freezing, and President Trump loved the parades, just let's start the parade.

00:14:30.000 Don't spend two hours with the people freezing.

00:14:33.000 Let's just do the parade immediately, get it done, go to the White House, everybody come by in the parade.

00:14:38.000 President Trump would love it.

00:14:39.000 Then he'd go in the Oval Office, and the very first thing we would do is he would sign an executive order moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

00:14:49.000 Very first act of his presidency, because it'd be so historic.

00:14:52.000 Then he would, we'd do some more work.

00:14:55.000 He would go back to the Capitol and address Congress, Paul Ryan, these guys, and he'd lay out his agenda for the first hundred days and saying, this is not what I'm proposing.

00:15:07.000 This is what we're going to do.

00:15:08.000 And you guys better get some racks in here because you're going to stay around the clock for 100 days until we do all this.

00:15:15.000 Charlie was really big on making Congress work.

00:15:17.000 Making Congress work.

00:15:18.000 He go back and do it.

00:15:19.000 Now, obviously, my plan was not chosen.

00:15:24.000 The best I did tonight.

00:15:25.000 They had a few galas, but it was fine.

00:15:27.000 People wanted to celebrate, and I thought it was great.

00:15:29.000 President Trump and my plan would go to one ball, the Veterans Ball, and he and the first lady would dance, and then she would dance with one of the veterans.

00:15:36.000 It's telling because the second inauguration is much closer to that.

00:15:40.000 I didn't flip the podium around, but that stunt of being in the Oval Office at the desk just signing all of the executive orders, and he got to perfection two years ago.

00:15:50.000 Here's the reason.

00:15:52.000 In 16, we had nothing.

00:15:54.000 I mean, we won in a come from behind.

00:15:56.000 I mean, on the night before in the polling, we were still down.

00:16:00.000 That was all turnout and people just coming out that people would never realize low information, low propensity voters.

00:16:06.000 The second time, we had four years.

00:16:09.000 Those years in the wilderness, and this is why I keep saying 16 was providential.

00:16:14.000 20, the big steal was providential, because it gave us the four years of the precinct strategy, of turning point getting up to speed.

00:16:21.000 Those four years, I would say, were the most valuable years of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point, learning, learning, using the 22, not just midterms, but the Arizona races to learn more, to figure out what works and what doesn't work, to continue to learn.

00:16:36.000 And then 24, have a machine that can actually deliver places like Pennsylvania and Michigan and Arizona.

00:16:42.000 We needed those years.

00:16:43.000 And that's why the shock and awe in days of thunder, they had 15 executive orders because it had been years in the making.

00:16:50.000 And that was what's so powerful about where we are.

00:16:53.000 But it's all providential.

00:16:55.000 The 24 election is providential.

00:16:57.000 And that's why, you know, we've got to grind on here.

00:17:00.000 Well, so you got the bona fides as a pro-Israel voice over many years, but last night you sounded a slightly different note.

00:17:10.000 Well, I don't think it's a different note.

00:17:11.000 I think I'm actually a defender of Israel.

00:17:14.000 You have these people that have made this two concepts called Greater Israel, right?

00:17:17.000 Greater Israel is not Israel. 0.93

00:17:19.000 Greater Israel is a geopolitical entity that takes part of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Sinai, all the way in Egypt.

00:17:27.000 All the West Bank. 0.71

00:17:28.000 West Bank, all the way, that's tiny.

00:17:31.000 I'm talking about all the way into Iraq and has a defeat of the Persians as part of it. 0.99

00:17:37.000 That's a grandiose plan.

00:17:39.000 And there are people in Israel that are fighting for this.

00:17:42.000 This is a real thing.

00:17:42.000 Just so you guys know, this is a real backing with this.

00:17:45.000 No, this is Netanyahu.

00:17:48.000 Remember, also Israel's changing, and you should talk to your friends in Israel.

00:17:51.000 Israel's changing radically.

00:17:53.000 I believe under Netanyahu, who I think is just doing this for his own political survival, that I would say that Israel is on the path to become a Jewish Pakistan, which is more a hardcore right ethno-state.

00:18:07.000 And I think you see this from who's leaving Israel and going to Portugal and going to Spain and going to Greece to live. 0.52

00:18:14.000 On top of that, there is a portion of the media and people here that are Israel first. 0.77

00:18:18.000 They just are.

00:18:19.000 And the perfect example was this current war that we went through.

00:18:24.000 Everything about that war was a lie.

00:18:26.000 We know that for a fact now.

00:18:28.000 The whole intensity of having to bomb the nuclear facilities, eventually Netanyahu had to give up the documents to his cabinet, everybody go through it.

00:18:36.000 And the Times of Israel said it was two years.

00:18:38.000 As you know, it wasn't two weeks.

00:18:39.000 It was two years.

00:18:41.000 They started a war that they couldn't finish.

00:18:43.000 They were getting pounded.

00:18:44.000 President Trump saved Israel.

00:18:46.000 Because remember, at the very first, you know, we sent Aegis cruisers into the eastern Mediterranean with the air systems they have.

00:18:55.000 We sent our Patriot missiles, our Thayad missiles, 25%.

00:18:58.000 It was the U.S. 0.77

00:18:59.000 We were an active combatant in that war from the very first, an active combatant in the war.

00:19:04.000 Now, on the offensive part, it wasn't just the B-2s taking out the caves.

00:19:09.000 I was in the North Arabian Sea in 1980 as a young naval officer on a destroyer that carried battle groups after the hostages were taken.

00:19:23.000 We still have essentially carry battle group or submarines there today.

00:19:27.000 It was the submarines, I think they were fast attack submarines, that launched 30 cruise missiles, which is a technology from the 1970s that took out all the surface facilities that the Israeli Air Force couldn't take out.

00:19:40.000 And President Trump didn't call it 12-day war.

00:19:43.000 The whole initial part of the, when Fox was going crazy, how much they were winning, how much they were winning on the previous Friday, was a decapitation against the regime's head because they wanted regime change.

00:19:54.000 And that would require combat troops, at least commandos.

00:19:58.000 Charlie Kirk understood, as all of us understood, that's not the defense of Israel.

00:20:02.000 That's the expansion of this greater Israel. 0.90

00:20:04.000 And we can't do it as a country.

00:20:05.000 We spent $9 trillion in the Middle East.

00:20:07.000 We've lost 10,000 troops killed in action, right?

00:20:11.000 Another 50,000 casualties, another 5,000 to 10,000 contractors.

00:20:16.000 So, and $9 trillion.

00:20:18.000 And the country's just not there.

00:20:19.000 In the carnage in the personal lives of the United States, and what's happened in the, yes, the PTSD, the suicides, plus what's happened to the country.

00:20:29.000 My recommendation, and Laura Loomer and Rabbi, you know, Rabbi Willicki is very close to Amphest.

00:20:34.000 He's got a media thing here.

00:20:35.000 Today is obviously on observation.

00:20:40.000 They're of the opinion I am, that Israel's got to become sovereign, and it doesn't need our $5 billion, right? 0.81

00:20:48.000 They sold $10 billion of arms to Germany the other day.

00:20:51.000 I mean, they're a very sophisticated defense industry.

00:20:53.000 And I think that would take off the burden because there's going to be more constraints.

00:20:58.000 And here's why I've always fought, always fought, the two-state solution.

00:21:03.000 I've always thought that Israel would just be contiguous. 0.63

00:21:06.000 And now we have a two-state solution.

00:21:08.000 You have a two-state solution.

00:21:09.000 And the Wall Street Journal this morning, the lead story, has this like, it's like the Jetsons.

00:21:14.000 It's this picture of the city of the future.

00:21:16.000 It's got modern, it's all this stuff, you know, people on air packs flying around.

00:21:20.000 It's Gaza.

00:21:21.000 It's a print of a present from a presentation that Jared and Witkoff just made to some financiers.

00:21:28.000 I think it's $300 or $400 billion to rebuild Gaza into a Mediterranean resort, but state of the art.

00:21:36.000 And in that, a $60 billion commitment of the United States for debt financing.

00:21:42.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:21:44.000 They've got now Qatar, and I'm the most anti-Qatar guy in the world. 0.99

00:21:48.000 And Qatar, you should understand, has put a lot of money into Washington, D.C. to change the opinion on Qatar.

00:21:54.000 Qatar is the financier of the Muslim Brotherhood, full stop. 0.98

00:21:59.000 And the Muslim Brotherhood is an absolute enemy to the Christian West, to our Judeo-Christian civilization, and particularly to the United States of America. 0.99

00:22:08.000 Turkey's second.

00:22:09.000 So when President Trump even is signing the designation of terrorism, they want to do a study in Jordan.

00:22:16.000 They want to do a study in Syria.

00:22:17.000 And they want to do a study in someplace else.

00:22:20.000 Leaving off Qatar and Turkey, which are centerpiece. 0.96

00:22:23.000 So I think that has to go.

00:22:24.000 So you've now created a two, you have a proto-two-state solution.

00:22:29.000 In Gaza, you're going to have 2.2 million Palestinians.

00:22:32.000 You're going to have fully financed by Qatar, except for the money they're going to look from us. 0.52

00:22:35.000 But you're talking hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:22:38.000 And Turkey, right, who we drove out, you know, Lawrence of Arabia and the British Army in the West drove out of the Ottoman Empire, drove them out in 1917. 0.61

00:22:48.000 We're basically inviting the Turks back in, who controlled the two holy sites in Jerusalem, I think for a half a millennia. 0.97

00:22:55.000 We're inviting them back in as the military.

00:22:58.000 And so when I look at Ben and I look at Levin, I said, you guys created this.

00:23:02.000 This was total overreach.

00:23:04.000 And now you have a two-state solution.

00:23:05.000 And President Trump, let's be honest, they met yesterday in Miami to negotiate Qatar, Egypt, and Turkey with Jared and with Witkoff.

00:23:14.000 And what they're negotiating is both Israel and Hamas are both slow-walking, trading in arms.

00:23:23.000 And the reason is both, I think, realize Netanyahu and Hamas that once they get to the conclusion of phase one, they're kind of out, right? 0.75

00:23:30.000 It changes over.

00:23:31.000 To me, that's catastrophic, but that's what they brought on.

00:23:34.000 This is why I'm an advocate and a strong advocate of a Christian state.

00:23:39.000 If you're going to have two states, if you're going to have Israel, and you're going to have part of Israel is going to be the beginning of a Palestinian state, which will be Gaza with the Turks and Qatar.

00:23:50.000 To me, you got to take the Christian quarter of Jerusalem with Bethlehem, and we start there.

00:23:56.000 We should have our own.

00:23:57.000 Because I think if you don't get a Christian state in Israel and get people feeling they have ownership of the Holy Land or some obligation as Christians, I'm not so sure Israel as we know it today exists in 20 or 30 years.

00:24:11.000 And that's brought on not by people who are the defenders of Israel.

00:24:16.000 That's brought on by people that bought into this kind of imperial Israel, expansionist Israel that was backed by what I call the Israel First Crowd. 0.70

00:24:24.000 And that Charlie Kirk, you know, people say, well, all the stuff, you know, Nick Fuentes and stuff like that, that's the surface.

00:24:30.000 And that's kind of the mind of Lakes.

00:24:32.000 Below is about the policies.

00:24:34.000 And below, you have deep policies on the oligarchs, on artificial intelligence, on Israel, on the globalists about Ukraine.

00:24:43.000 There are five or six fundamental basic issues about who governs this country.

00:24:50.000 President Trump walked into a catch-22 when taking office.

00:24:53.000 Do nothing, and America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future.

00:24:58.000 Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy us some time.

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00:25:46.000 President Trump is fighting for America's future.

00:25:48.000 Now it's your turn to help protect yours.

00:25:53.000 And one thing I can tell you about Charlie is that to his core, although he came out of a very traditional Republican training, to his core, he was a populist nationalist.

00:26:02.000 America first and American citizens first.

00:26:05.000 And that's why he built Turning Point like he built it, right?

00:26:07.000 It's you figure it out.

00:26:09.000 Let these kids figure it out.

00:26:10.000 They'll figure it out.

00:26:11.000 And that's the core of populism.

00:26:13.000 And so that's why last night I thought it was important to also, let me be blunt.

00:26:17.000 I've known Ben Shapiro a long time, right?

00:26:20.000 I've just known him a long time.

00:26:21.000 Make sure you get this one in the mic.

00:26:22.000 Oh, but he's just look, listen.

00:26:28.000 In the particularly in the year 15, after Andrew died and I took over Breitbart, we did have a slight change in editorial policy.

00:26:41.000 It became more America first. 0.70

00:26:42.000 It became more populous.

00:26:43.000 It definitely became more nationalist.

00:26:45.000 If Andrew had been alive during that time of those transitional years, he'd have been right with us.

00:26:50.000 His inclinations were to do that.

00:26:51.000 That's why he, Andrew was the central figure of the Tea Party.

00:26:55.000 The Tea Party was kind of the beginning of that.

00:26:57.000 We didn't really have it formulated, right?

00:26:59.000 We had some huge election wins.

00:27:01.000 Remember, we won 63 House seats in 2010, 63 House seats.

00:27:06.000 Now, most of those members pretty quickly flipped into be Republican establishment.

00:27:11.000 But at least it showed you there was a thirst out there, an appetite for peace.

00:27:14.000 Grassroots that wanted change and wanted pretty fundamental change.

00:27:17.000 So in 15 and 16, when Trump came along, you know, Matt Ball, Tony Lee, and I was running it, and you had Joel Pollack and Alex Marlowe, you know, all these people today who were very junior at the time.

00:27:28.000 And, you know, Ben hated Trump, and he was open about that.

00:27:34.000 And I didn't have a problem with that.

00:27:35.000 I don't have a problem with other voices talking.

00:27:38.000 He worked for never part of the company, but a contractor as an editor.

00:27:41.000 And then you had this incident in Mar-Lago, which was a very marginal incident with Corey Lewandowski in a stringer that we had hired.

00:27:50.000 You know, he shoved her arm or her hand or something like that.

00:27:53.000 It was very confusing.

00:27:54.000 I believe the testimony was he grabbed her, he suplexed her.

00:27:57.000 Exactly that.

00:27:58.000 Blood everywhere.

00:27:59.000 Blood everywhere.

00:28:00.000 Because it was right before, it was right before Super Tuesday, and they wanted Trump.

00:28:04.000 These guys were adamant that they had to do something to shop block Trump.

00:28:07.000 And I just wanted to stand for it.

00:28:09.000 So the story goes, he either quit or I fired him.

00:28:13.000 And there's probably a two-minute gap between both of those happening.

00:28:17.000 And he said, Bannon's turned Breitbart into Trump Pravda.

00:28:21.000 And Megan Kelly, I know she told the story last night when she asked those questions, which we would think would be pretty innocuous today in the first debate on Fox.

00:28:28.000 Of course, we went to high dungeon.

00:28:30.000 Oh, this is awful.

00:28:31.000 And I unleashed the dogs.

00:28:33.000 And to the fact that, you know, she had to get security.

00:28:35.000 And Roger Elscome says, you've got to back off.

00:28:37.000 I go, no, we don't back off.

00:28:39.000 We have one, we have full, all-ahead flank because it was Trump that they were trying to take out Trump, the Bush faction.

00:28:47.000 Fox is very pro-Bush to take him out.

00:28:50.000 And I said, we're not going to do it.

00:28:52.000 And that stabilized it.

00:28:53.000 And Breitbart was his most powerful media thing.

00:28:55.000 In fact, later, Harvard, a year after the election, Harvard did a study on all media in the 2016 election because they hadn't figured out how they won.

00:29:04.000 And they realized that with the Pepe's and the Meme Wars.

00:29:09.000 It was the Meme Wars because Trump really had no money and had no organization.

00:29:12.000 So he had the Mike Cernovich, like Mike Cernovich, the Meme Wars, the Pepe's, were all in social media.

00:29:18.000 And Hillary Clinton gave an interview about two months ago.

00:29:20.000 She said, Bannon and those influencers at the time, before influencers were a thing, over and she had a huge operation.

00:29:27.000 We just ran circles around him because it was self-organizing and people would just, you know, intention Trump.

00:29:31.000 And they said later that the most important media outlet by an order of magnitude was not the New York Times or not the Washington Post or not the Nation or MSNBC, was Breitbart for Trump.

00:29:46.000 And I'm very proud of that.

00:29:47.000 It was why I was selected to come into the campaign because we were doing such a job.

00:29:51.000 I knew nothing about, we only had 100 days ago and he's down, I don't know, 10 points.

00:29:56.000 I didn't know anything about campaigns.

00:29:57.000 I'd never been into a campaign office in my life, but we specialized in taking down Hillary Clinton, right? 0.99

00:30:03.000 And so that was our.

00:30:07.000 We had just done Peter Schweitzer's book, which I worked on with Peter and Peter did the research and wrote it everything.

00:30:13.000 Clinton Cash had come out a year before.

00:30:15.000 And Bernie Bros were looking for a place to go.

00:30:18.000 So we put a movie out.

00:30:19.000 We made a movie called Clinton Cash.

00:30:20.000 It was just like a video, but it got like 14 million views because we put it up for free.

00:30:25.000 A lot of the Bernie Bros, because remember, if you just get people to stay home, that's a vote.

00:30:29.000 If you actually get them to come and vote for you, that's two votes.

00:30:32.000 And all we wanted was those kind of Bernie Bros, disaffected Democrats and Union Democrats and Independents who leaned working class or populists who weren't prepared to vote for a Republican just to stay home.

00:30:44.000 And so we did that.

00:30:45.000 My point is that then Ben made a big deal about not voting for Trump in 2016.

00:30:50.000 You know, this is he was all over thing.

00:30:51.000 And so I just don't, I don't buy it.

00:30:54.000 It's just that they're pushing another agenda.

00:30:57.000 And that agenda failed.

00:30:58.000 And not just did it fail, I kept warning them all the time on the show and behind the scenes, this is going to fail.

00:31:05.000 And the damage you're going to do to Israel is incalculable. 0.95

00:31:08.000 And now we have it.

00:31:09.000 And now we have a two-state for people that were adamantly against a two-state solution.

00:31:14.000 Just look at the Wall Street Journal today.

00:31:16.000 They're going to build a city of the future there with $300 billion of Qataris money and other money from the Gulf Emirates and from Saudi Arabia with a security force led by the Turks that have Egyptians and Saudi troops on that strip in Israel.

00:31:33.000 So they brought it on themselves.

00:31:36.000 And so I agree with Loomer.

00:31:38.000 I think Israel ought to get their total sovereignty and their total independence.

00:31:43.000 Like today in Syria.

00:31:45.000 Waliki and the hardcore guys that kind of have a vision, they're not for what we're doing in Syria.

00:31:50.000 Because the Syrian situation with the ISIS guy is really, that's a Turkish proxy.

00:31:55.000 That's Erdogan's expansion program.

00:31:57.000 And so when we're up there siding with them, a lot of the Israelis are saying, well, hang on, that's not helping us and not helping the Druze.

00:32:04.000 So I think they need their total, full independence.

00:32:07.000 And they'll take care of themselves.

00:32:10.000 They'll get on with it without constraints of the United States.

00:32:12.000 One of the most common.

00:32:14.000 I think they want us to go with Q&A.

00:32:15.000 Oh, do we need to?

00:32:16.000 We've been going for.

00:32:17.000 How many?

00:32:17.000 That went quick.

00:32:18.000 Did I. Did I dominate the microphone? 0.53

00:32:21.000 That's what they're doing.

00:32:22.000 This is called the Philippines.

00:32:23.000 They're not paying for us.

00:32:25.000 So let me ask one last question here, though.

00:32:27.000 One of the most common critiques that I've heard, even just walking the floor, people talk to me about Israel, but before that as well, is there's a feeling that from the pro-Israel side, even if they are Israelis, but it could be Mark Levin, it could be whatever, that they want to get as much out of Trump out of these next three years.

00:32:47.000 And it's a feeling like they're trying to maximize everything they can, even if it's going to torpedo the administration.

00:32:54.000 Is that a concern that you have?

00:32:55.000 I don't think there's any doubt.

00:32:56.000 I think this was my complaint.

00:32:57.000 I went back.

00:32:59.000 I try to, how to say this, not bug the president by calling you on every topic, et cetera.

00:33:06.000 When we talk, we talk for a length of time, and I go see him very, very rarely.

00:33:12.000 But when I do, it's something important.

00:33:14.000 And so people had asked me to come back, and I went back two days before the bombing, and we'd spent, I don't know, like three or four hours.

00:33:21.000 And with President Trump, one thing I will tell you, he is the, and my experience at Goldman Sachs of at Goldman Sachs, you're there to work with CEOs and chairmen, right?

00:33:32.000 He is one of the best listeners.

00:33:35.000 When you're in a meeting with him, he's not like talking all the time.

00:33:38.000 He wants to hear what you have to say, competing ideas.

00:33:42.000 He asks questions and he takes it on board.

00:33:45.000 So we spent a lot of time that day.

00:33:47.000 And when I got there, who was there working?

00:33:51.000 Who was in the, I got to the West Wing a couple hours early.

00:33:54.000 The person that set up the meeting, the lunch, had asked me to come a couple hours early.

00:33:59.000 And I walk in and who's sitting right there?

00:34:01.000 Charlie Kirk.

00:34:03.000 Charlie Kirk had been there on and off for two weeks, right?

00:34:06.000 You guys had to juggle all this stuff.

00:34:08.000 And when Charlie was back at the White House, Charlie's working 12 and 14 hour days.

00:34:15.000 And part of it was still vetting and helping people to vet, but a lot of it was working on ideas that he felt the administration had to capture.

00:34:24.000 On this one, when I got there, we had been talking, and he had a very definitive plan on this very topic.

00:34:32.000 I mean, this is what it's about.

00:34:33.000 And he was adamant like I was.

00:34:36.000 We could not allow ourselves to be pulled in to a regime change war.

00:34:40.000 Also about regime change.

00:34:42.000 You know this from our work on the CCP, which you guys have been part of.

00:34:45.000 I don't believe you can do regime change from the top.

00:34:48.000 You can't go into decapitation.

00:34:50.000 We can't just go in and take out the Chinese Communist Party.

00:34:52.000 We just can't go out and take out the Mulas. 1.00

00:34:55.000 I'm not a big believer in just going to go and take Maduro out.

00:34:58.000 Other people have different theories, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

00:35:02.000 But you saw this in Vietnam when we were in, had a big commitment, and all of a sudden it wasn't working out for us.

00:35:07.000 It wasn't going.

00:35:08.000 What did we do?

00:35:09.000 The CIA assassinated Diem.

00:35:11.000 And then what happened?

00:35:11.000 A complete disaster for their country and our country.

00:35:15.000 Change has to come from the bottom.

00:35:17.000 I'm all for cutting off all the oil, not allowing any of the MULA's oils to go to the Chinese Communist Party to cut them off. 0.52

00:35:23.000 And so then you get revolutionary change.

00:35:25.000 A decapitation, right, strike that then would lead to some civil war internally, we're going to get pulled into that.

00:35:32.000 And that's a 10 or 20-year process with a ton of American cash, troops, but more importantly, time.

00:35:38.000 It's opportunity cost.

00:35:40.000 We have so many problems here that we have to solve.

00:35:43.000 We don't have the ability to get the public's attention, but more just the work of people there because they're working 16, 18-hour days anyway.

00:35:51.000 They need all that energy to solve.

00:35:53.000 You know, you rank order things.

00:35:55.000 And Charlie was a huge believer in this.

00:35:56.000 And so, no, and I would say that there's no doubt that they're trying.

00:36:02.000 That was the biggest.

00:36:02.000 That's one chance.

00:36:03.000 They're trying to take the logic.

00:36:05.000 But President Trump, here's the beauty of President Trump.

00:36:08.000 He really thought through how to end it.

00:36:11.000 Remember, not until he ended, he came out and named it.

00:36:13.000 It was a 12-day war.

00:36:14.000 When President Trump puts a brand on it, the brand sticks.

00:36:18.000 It ain't a 13-day war.

00:36:19.000 It's not going to be a 30-day war.

00:36:20.000 And he was adamant.

00:36:21.000 And then when Netanyahu, because remember, Netanyahu decapitated the team that Witcoff was negotiating with, the Iranians, on that first night.

00:36:30.000 And then when Netanyahu tried to go and decapitate the team negotiating for Hamas in Qatar, it crossed the line with Trump.

00:36:38.000 Ever since then, just reality, Israel's been kind of a sideshow in this. 1.00

00:36:42.000 It's all been working thing.

00:36:43.000 And now we found out last night in North Carolina, there is no meeting scheduled over Christmas with Netanyahu.

00:36:50.000 It's something he's thinking about.

00:36:51.000 And the president says, I'm going to get it on the books.

00:36:53.000 But this is how it's kind of gone.

00:36:55.000 That's a signal.

00:36:56.000 It's a signal.

00:36:57.000 And so for those, listen, they're adamant.

00:37:02.000 It's going to be their way. 0.95

00:37:03.000 They're not going to back off this greater Israel project. 0.89

00:37:06.000 They're not going to back off Israel first. 0.92

00:37:07.000 You're going to have, you know, we're going to have all kind of things starting.

00:37:10.000 That's fine.

00:37:10.000 But we have to be adamant.

00:37:12.000 It's done.

00:37:13.000 You guys brought it on.

00:37:14.000 I don't like it.

00:37:15.000 I don't agree with it.

00:37:16.000 But there's a Palestinian state going to be set up with Qatar and Turkey.

00:37:19.000 That's going to happen.

00:37:20.000 And we have to figure out how to work around that.

00:37:23.000 And so, no, I think there's going to be, and I think if you walk around here and just talk to people, you'll get the feel that certain forces are trying to get the most out of it in the time.

00:37:31.000 And we have to be ever vigilant to make sure.

00:37:34.000 Yeah, and it's also about the access of the president to information.

00:37:38.000 That's one of the great things about that.

00:37:39.000 This is a huge untold part of the Trump admin, Trump 2020.

00:37:43.000 Well, you know.

00:37:43.000 It's in the feedback loop.

00:37:44.000 You know who knew that better than anybody, Charlie Kirk.

00:37:46.000 Charlie knew this.

00:37:47.000 Listen, you have an operation that could put on a 31,000, that could double the size of already the most important conference in all the world for conservatives.

00:37:56.000 And you've doubled the size of that in a couple weeks, given the tragedy you guys had and the work you have to do to keep the show going at the level.

00:38:03.000 And Erica, everything on her plate, and you can do it.

00:38:06.000 And Charlie built that organization, had all that, was starting to did the college tour in the spring and started another one.

00:38:12.000 Like I told Charlie, I said, dude, do you need another college tour in the fall?

00:38:15.000 You're doing so much.

00:38:16.000 And when he's back in the White House, it's not just for getting people on board.

00:38:20.000 It's the exact thing.

00:38:21.000 It's making sure.

00:38:23.000 When I said he's a networker, Charlie was always making sure that the right people at the right time with Sergio were getting in front of the president.

00:38:32.000 That lunch, they had tried to schedule that lunch for months, and I just wasn't in D.C. that much.

00:38:37.000 And it was Sergio that came to me, and Charlie was working there the week before and said, hey, we need you here on Thursday.

00:38:42.000 It's blocked out.

00:38:43.000 And I go, okay, this is the thing that the shooting is star says.

00:38:46.000 It's Thursday at noon, but come or come right after the show at noon and we'll get you in there at 1 or 1.30 and we'll be here.

00:38:54.000 Because Charlie was working with Sergio to make sure the president was getting a broader access.

00:38:58.000 And another person who works in this too is the vice president, the vice president's team, Sarabian and those guys, constantly trying to get more voices in front of the president.

00:39:07.000 And so I think that that is a thing we have to fight going forward.

00:39:11.000 Yeah.

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00:40:22.000 Let's get some QA.

00:40:23.000 That's great, Steve.

00:40:24.000 Thank you.

00:40:24.000 QA.

00:40:25.000 Do we have a microphone?

00:40:26.000 Yes.

00:40:26.000 Does that explain what I was trying to do last night?

00:40:29.000 Yeah.

00:40:31.000 Leaving out the nasty, snarky part, which you know me.

00:40:36.000 I got to go there.

00:40:37.000 What are these at?

00:40:38.000 Charlie was very classy.

00:40:40.000 I'm going to tell the story about when we started the handoff, and I go, so you're going to mention it?

00:40:47.000 Wow.

00:40:49.000 Hi, Mr. Bannon.

00:40:50.000 My name's Emma.

00:40:51.000 My dad loves your show.

00:40:52.000 We watch you every day.

00:40:53.000 So as somebody who- Your dad's a man of discernment.

00:40:58.000 So as somebody who was born in 2003, I was a day old when Osama bin Laden was killed.

00:41:02.000 It feels like my entire life it's been this confusing mess of endless wars in the Middle East.

00:41:08.000 Other than, as a Christian, I do want to protect our holy sites.

00:41:12.000 Why does it feel like even in the conservative movement, we're constantly being dragged into all of these conflicts rather than focusing on all of our problems here and worrying about the midterms and putting America and American citizens first?

00:41:24.000 So, it's a great question.

00:41:28.000 From the mouth of babes.

00:41:32.000 One of the biggest issues, it seems like, is that so many of the problems that we have failed to solve or gotten dragged into have blown back and have come here now.

00:41:40.000 I mean, the central issue we have today is who actually runs the country, right?

00:41:46.000 Who makes the decisions?

00:41:47.000 Who actually empowers the chief executive to make, and this is why the big focus on his Article II powers.

00:41:55.000 What are those powers?

00:41:56.000 You watch the show, we've been adamant about that.

00:41:58.000 That was one of the things in the years in the wilderness that Russ Voten guys came up with, that we've got to maximize the Article II powers of the chief executive because that's ways to get things done, particularly in crisis.

00:42:09.000 You still have a network, this kind of globalist system, that people make an awful lot of money and have an awful lot of power in having the United States as the kind of the security guarantee around the world.

00:42:20.000 If you look at, just take the Eurasian landmass quickly, you look from Europe to the Gulf and the Gulf Emirates, the Middle East, around to the South China Sea, and then up to Japan and Korea.

00:42:31.000 Those four big nodes are the basic trading parties of the United States.

00:42:36.000 We have trading relationships, commercial relationships, capital markets, but it's also an American security guarantee.

00:42:41.000 We have NATO, we're in the Middle East, and this is why we have a $1.2 trillion defense budget.

00:42:49.000 Now, those trade deals are upside down because we've shipped all the jobs.

00:42:53.000 It's worked to the detriment of the American people, the middle class and the working class.

00:42:57.000 But the elites have made a tremendous amount of money in this system, and they continue to make a tremendous amount of money in this system.

00:43:03.000 And they're going to continue that until we actually take power away from them.

00:43:07.000 And that's one of the reasons I have to fight.

00:43:08.000 So they always want to focus on everywhere else.

00:43:10.000 And quite frankly, they don't care.

00:43:12.000 They just don't.

00:43:13.000 They don't care about the American worker.

00:43:14.000 They don't care about the American family.

00:43:16.000 And you can tell this by their policies of immigration.

00:43:19.000 They're always trying to, whether it's mass illegal immigration from Mexico and from Latin America to drive down the wages of African Americans and Hispanic American citizens at the lower end, are flooding the zone with these bogus H-1B visas and all these visa programs so that kids coming out of college have to compete against the world here in the United States and drive their wages down 50%. 0.78

00:43:42.000 So the problems that we have been involved in the world have kind of come back to us.

00:43:45.000 Now, one of the biggest problems we have here today is that we've looked the other way for years on this Marxist-Jihadist coalition.

00:43:53.000 And this red-green coalition that people like Frank Gaffney and Trevor Loud and others have been warning people about for 20 or 30 years is now a reality.

00:44:02.000 You see that in New York City with the new elected mayor.

00:44:05.000 You see that in Chicago where they forced out ICE.

00:44:08.000 You see it in LA.

00:44:09.000 You see it in these sanctuary cities that are basically independent.

00:44:12.000 And we have 15 or 20 million illegal aliens here and they're not about to be deported.

00:44:16.000 In fact, they're going to do everything to stop that.

00:44:18.000 That's the force.

00:44:19.000 And now this is why we're making such a big deal about Texas.

00:44:22.000 In Texas, and we had on the show today in the audience one of the women fighting this in the United Kingdom. 0.98

00:44:28.000 Because people in the United Kingdom will tell you in England and in France, they're five or ten years away from a civil war, right?

00:44:35.000 They've allowed it to go on so long.

00:44:36.000 And so we have to nip it in the butt. 0.84

00:44:38.000 We've allowed it to get out of control in Dearborn, Michigan.

00:44:41.000 It's going to be very tough to deal with.

00:44:43.000 Minnesota.

00:44:43.000 In Minnesota, looking at the Samayans, but in Texas, it's just beginning.

00:44:47.000 They're building two mosques a month.

00:44:50.000 And here's Harris, Harris County and Tarrant County are the two counties.

00:44:55.000 They realize if they can take over Tarrant County and Harris County, they can flip Texas.

00:45:01.000 And if they flip Texas, we can never win again.

00:45:03.000 So that's why I just announced tomorrow, January 9th, because this is how we play at the war room.

00:45:11.000 We're bringing Gert Vilders, the hardest core anti-Islamist in Europe, the Netherlands, a guy that has been hardcore.

00:45:19.000 We're bringing him to Plano, Texas on the 9th, and we're throwing down hard.

00:45:24.000 We're having him as a speaker.

00:45:28.000 They're going to go crazy.

00:45:30.000 Look, the message of Charlie Kirk and his work, if you cut through everything, is that Charlie, and this is what I said last night, he's a Christian martyr and therefore a Christian saint, even more than an American patriot.

00:45:42.000 He understood that the country's gone through a de-Christianization process over the last 60, 70, 80 years, and that the purpose of power is not power for power's sake. 0.78

00:45:55.000 The purpose for power is the re-Christianization of our institutions. 0.99

00:46:00.000 And that is the work, that is the task for us at hand.

00:46:03.000 And so I think that, and I think we can not just think, I know we can do it.

00:46:07.000 We've won seven of the last eight.

00:46:09.000 They will never tell you that.

00:46:11.000 Since 2015, when Trump really came on the scene, there have been eight national elections, either primaries, off-year elections, which is a national election for Congress, or presidential elections.

00:46:21.000 We've had eight.

00:46:22.000 We've won seven.

00:46:23.000 Okay?

00:46:24.000 And I'm telling you, it's very doable for us to win this year.

00:46:28.000 And here's why.

00:46:29.000 I believe the bets we've made on the economy are going to stop paying off.

00:46:33.000 And that's when it's going to get ugly.

00:46:34.000 When they can't fall back on affordability or playing by the rules and some economic argument, it's going to get Charlie Kirk type of nasty, the way they treated him everywhere he went.

00:46:46.000 So we just have to hunker down, understand we had one of the greatest leaders.

00:46:51.000 I think if you look at history, that Charlie is as close to the revolutionary generation where you had many of the stars of the revolutionary generation who were in their 20s, early 20s to maybe early 30s.

00:47:04.000 Charlie Kirk has had more impact on our country for his age than anybody really from the revolutionary generation.

00:47:12.000 So you guys have here, right?

00:47:18.000 So, you know, we have to pick up the mantle.

00:47:22.000 It's a, you know, cry havoc and unleash the dogs of information war.

00:47:28.000 So.

00:47:29.000 Well said.

00:47:30.000 Great question.

00:47:32.000 Hi, Mr. Bannon.

00:47:34.000 My name is Cole.

00:47:34.000 I am a high school senior and I plan to ship out for Marine Corps boot camp this summer.

00:47:38.000 Amen.

00:47:40.000 Thank you.

00:47:43.000 I was wondering what your advice would be to find political and just general success following military service.

00:47:49.000 Thank you.

00:47:50.000 What I would do, you're making the, every time I talk to audiences, I say do this.

00:47:54.000 I served eight years in.

00:47:55.000 It's just go out.

00:47:57.000 The first thing you should do is either enlist or if you're in college, go be an officer in the military.

00:48:02.000 And here's why.

00:48:03.000 The most formative decade of your life is your 20s.

00:48:07.000 It's one of the reasons of the crisis we have today because we are taking away opportunities from people in this late family formation, late home ownership, and even learning as an apprentice, as an artisan, a profession in your 20s.

00:48:23.000 The best thing you can do is in the military.

00:48:25.000 Don't worry about your political future going forward.

00:48:28.000 Just hit it every day.

00:48:30.000 Take as many tough assignments, go as travel the world.

00:48:33.000 If you've got an assignment that takes you overseas, take it.

00:48:36.000 If you've got something that's particularly hazardous, take it.

00:48:39.000 That building of your character is everything in that decade.

00:48:44.000 And you're going to a place that is one of the finest institutions.

00:48:49.000 Remember, in 250 years, it's like the Royal Navy.

00:48:51.000 Why is the Marine Corps so special?

00:48:53.000 Because the Marine Corps is going to strip you down of all your false ego and get back to the core of your character.

00:49:00.000 And it's a tough process, but they're going to build back up through daily actions.

00:49:05.000 And daily, you're holding yourself accountable and working as a team.

00:49:09.000 Remember in the war room, when somebody comes to work for me, I make them watch a film called 12 O'Clock High.

00:49:15.000 It's about the 8th Air Corps in the first days of World War II.

00:49:18.000 About in situations like this, it's all about working together as a team, right?

00:49:24.000 As imperfect as you are.

00:49:26.000 And the sacrifices that have to come with that, because working as a team means sublimating some natural human tendencies.

00:49:33.000 The Marine Corps is the perfect institution.

00:49:36.000 You know, as a naval officer, we're pretty good and the Army's pretty good, but the Marine Corps has perfected taking basic American citizens, young kids, and turning them into something that's very special and very lethal.

00:49:51.000 So don't worry about your career going forward.

00:49:54.000 Maximize every day you're in the Corps and you'll turn out fine.

00:49:59.000 Steve Bannon, everyone.

00:50:00.000 Yes.

00:50:01.000 Thank you, Steve.

00:50:02.000 Thank you very much.

00:50:02.000 Thank you guys.

00:50:03.000 By the way, I'm so proud of what you guys have accomplished and all the grief you've gotten and all the hate you've gotten.

00:50:09.000 It is amazing.

00:50:10.000 This conference, look at the energy, look at the kids.

00:50:12.000 We're in good hands.

00:50:13.000 Amen.

00:50:14.000 Thank you, Steve.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 31, 2025

The Providential Nature of the 2020 Defeat

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