The Charlie Kirk Show - The Race to Iowa + Mass Rebellion in Ireland

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's Anna Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Raheem Kassam and Brendan O'Neill.

00:00:03.000 We talk about Trump, DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Ireland.

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00:01:24.000 Joining us now is the legendary Raheem Kassam, who lands more Trump interviews than anybody else.

00:01:30.000 Congratulations, Raheem.

00:01:31.000 It's like if I want to see what Trump has to think, he just calls Raheem on the plane or in the office.

00:01:37.000 So you're doing a great job.

00:01:38.000 Raheem, there's a lot going on in the Western world right now.

00:01:42.000 We have Ireland that is bubbling up and we have a lot happening domestic politically as well.

00:01:49.000 So I want to ask here, just have you walk us through how do you see the Republican race, Republican primary race, Koch brothers behind Nikki Haley.

00:01:59.000 What are we supposed to make of that?

00:02:01.000 Well, and thank you for having me, Charlie, and thank you for the kind words.

00:02:05.000 The first thing that comes to mind when you look at Coke World, the Koch Network, choosing to endorse Nikki Haley is obviously the mega bucks, right?

00:02:16.000 That's a war chest that any candidate would love to get their hands on on any side. 0.86

00:02:23.000 Historically, you know, the Coke's have poured hundreds of millions into races over the last couple of years alone.

00:02:31.000 Probably runs into much more than that over the last 20 odd years.

00:02:36.000 And the second part of it that people need to understand is that so many people that are in the DeSantis camp actually have worked for or with Koch-aligned and affiliated organizations over their political histories.

00:02:52.000 So for instance, if you take, you know, Ken Cuccinelli had received when he was AG, a large amount of money from Koch Networks.

00:03:01.000 You have DeSantis spokesman, Carly Acheson, who was defending her former boss, Governor Kevin Stitt, taking money from Koch Networks previously.

00:03:13.000 And Christina Pushaw, as well, the spokesman for Ron DeSantis, the rapid response spokesman for Ron DeSantis, has also worked closely with Coke Networks.

00:03:21.000 So you've got to look at it from that perspective as to why they find it so much of a humiliation, so much of a snub that that organization, America's Prosperity, and probably the broader Koch network as well, is now going to be supporting somebody else.

00:03:37.000 Somebody else who has been eating Team DeSantis' lunch for a couple of weeks now, who is fundraising just as much as them, who's going up in the polls, not down or flatlining.

00:03:47.000 And, you know, I'm not a huge Nikki Haley fan by any stretch of the imagination, but her campaign is clearly more disciplined.

00:03:53.000 She's clearly impressing donors much more.

00:03:56.000 And yes, they are, you know, I've never been a fan of the Koch networks.

00:04:00.000 They are more open borders, more globalist types, more corporate types.

00:04:05.000 But at the same time, like I said at the very beginning, these candidates would kill to get their hands on that kind of money.

00:04:12.000 So Nikki gets the endorsement and the capital behind it, that the Kokes are increasingly sympathetic to DEI, CRT, open borders, more globalist. 0.88

00:04:24.000 The DeSantis campaign, it seems to be kind of falling apart right now.

00:04:30.000 And I'm personally quite upset by how we're continuing this kind of unnecessary primary when we should be consolidating support behind Donald Trump.

00:04:42.000 How do you Ron DeSantis still has about $70 to $80 million that we know of in the super PAC, probably less than that?

00:04:49.000 And it's all coming down to Iowa.

00:04:52.000 Vander Platz and also Reynolds have endorsed DeSantis.

00:04:58.000 My fear is that Trump will win Iowa, but he might win by 10 or 15 or 20.

00:05:03.000 And the media is going to try to make this to seem like, oh, he narrowly or by a much closer margin than anticipated.

00:05:10.000 Your thoughts, Raheem?

00:05:11.000 Yeah, I have many.

00:05:13.000 Van der Platz has been soliciting money from politicians for as long as anybody can remember in exchange for his endorsement.

00:05:21.000 So that's one thing that people need to understand.

00:05:23.000 This is not the big honking snub to Donald Trump that Team DeSantis is trying to portray as strictly speaking.

00:05:29.000 The DeSantis team was willing to cut him a check.

00:05:32.000 And so they got the endorsement.

00:05:33.000 Kim Reynolds is now the second least popular governor in the country.

00:05:38.000 That's a story that we had up over the last couple of days as well when you look at the data.

00:05:42.000 So that's not, you know, Team DeSantis is wondering, oh, well, she's endorsed us and Bob's endorsed us.

00:05:48.000 Why aren't we going up at the polls?

00:05:50.000 Well, if people bothered, if they had actually bothered to try and look at what motivates ordinary people, what's motivating Iowans at the moment, they would know that it isn't somebody else telling them what to do, right?

00:06:01.000 It's them making up their own minds about which candidate best reflects their values and which candidate critically can beat Joe Biden.

00:06:08.000 You know, it's funny talking about the Koch endorsement because over the last several months, Team DeSantis has signaled over and over again that taking money from globalist donors, Bush-connected donors, all of this stuff doesn't mean anything because Ron will not count to the donors' demands.

00:06:26.000 He's happy to take their money, but he won't do what they say.

00:06:29.000 And now, as soon as somebody snubs them and gives the money to Nikki Haley, they're like, oh, well, she's obviously massively compromised and so on and so forth.

00:06:37.000 This is the type of campaign they've run, Charlie.

00:06:39.000 They've run a campaign where it's so fundamentally out of step with even the things that they are signaling and the things that they are saying that it doesn't ring true to anybody.

00:06:49.000 And I listen, at the beginning of this whole thing, I really hoped we'd see a fair fight.

00:06:55.000 But they came out of the blocks screaming blue murder, screaming all sorts of falsehoods about Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters, by the way, me being one of those who, you know, they've told lie after lie.

00:07:07.000 Oh, you take money from the Trump camp.

00:07:09.000 Oh, you're in this country illegally. 0.99

00:07:11.000 You know, just saying all this nasty stuff.

00:07:14.000 And people watch it and they go, well, who are these people?

00:07:18.000 Who are these people who have come along very recently, by the way, into conservative world and are now telling us that the people who have been fighting on the front lines for a decade in the populist nationalist movement are somehow phonies and grifters and what have you.

00:07:33.000 So I look at it through that lens.

00:07:35.000 Obviously, it's very personal to me because I've been doing this for so very long.

00:07:39.000 And I look at it through that lens.

00:07:41.000 The other thing that I think you have to think about when it comes to Iowa, and I agree with you, by the way, this is why we did a story earlier this week about the number of caucus commitments that each side has.

00:07:50.000 So the Trump camp is saying they've got over 50,000 caucus commitments.

00:07:54.000 The DeSantis camp say they've got about 30,000 caucus commitments.

00:07:58.000 Well, that probably will end up being a closer outcome in Iowa than most people think.

00:08:03.000 And I'm happy to say that because Jeff Rowe's ability, you know, he did the Ted Cruz stuff out there in 2016.

00:08:09.000 His ability in that one state alone on the caucus stuff alone is actually quite good.

00:08:15.000 On everything else, as we've seen, he doesn't know diddly squat about running a campaign.

00:08:20.000 So Iowa, yes, you're right.

00:08:22.000 The media will probably try and come out and say, oh, he didn't.

00:08:25.000 Trump didn't win it as much as he should have won it by.

00:08:28.000 But at the same time, it really doesn't matter.

00:08:31.000 At that point, Ron is going to have a very hard time justifying even staying in the race.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, and that's it's going to be also incumbent on us setting the narrative here because I'm a little show Trump's up 40 in Iowa.

00:08:46.000 I doubt he's going to win by 40 because the caucus system is very tricky.

00:08:51.000 Also, a lot of people enter open-minded.

00:08:54.000 And then the way the caucus works, I actually went to a caucus in 2016, is that everyone sits in like a library or whatever, and they sit there.

00:09:04.000 And every campaign then gives a chance to give a speech.

00:09:07.000 They have a surrogate that will then be able to give a speech.

00:09:09.000 And people then make their decision.

00:09:11.000 They write it on a little piece of paper and they put it in a bucket, right?

00:09:15.000 Probably more secure than our elections in other parts of the country, to be perfectly honest with you.

00:09:20.000 And that's it.

00:09:21.000 And then they tally it up and then they zap it back in, and you'll have a result within a couple hours, right?

00:09:26.000 There's no ballot, there's actually no ballots, there's no signature verification.

00:09:29.000 It's very neighborhood.

00:09:30.000 It's very close together.

00:09:35.000 Then wouldn't it be smart for those of us that want to see Trump win to manage expectations going into Iowa?

00:09:43.000 We must remember, Trump did not win Iowa in 2016.

00:09:47.000 Yeah, the answer is yes.

00:09:48.000 And also the other thing is, why did Trump not win Iowa in 2016?

00:09:52.000 Because Jeff Rowe in the Ted Cruz campaign at the time told a brazen lie during that caucus, right?

00:09:57.000 About other candidates dropping out and that you weren't, you know, there was no point in wasting your time dealing with them.

00:10:04.000 So yes, I completely agree with you.

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00:11:51.000 Raheem, so many stories happening here.

00:11:53.000 I want to ask you about this Deutsch Bank, Deutsche Bank thing.

00:11:57.000 This has kind of been below the surface.

00:11:59.000 Trump did a truth social post on it.

00:12:02.000 What are the facts here?

00:12:03.000 Yeah, Charlie, incredibly important story coming out of the testimony yesterday from New York.

00:12:10.000 The claims that have long been made in this case are that Donald Trump somehow defrauded everybody, right?

00:12:16.000 The public, the banks, everybody you can possibly imagine by inflating values of certain things, misreporting certain other things.

00:12:26.000 And, you know, the defense has pretty much rested on the case that like, hey, listen, when it comes to valuations of properties, especially in a very fluctuating market, in fluctuating economic times, with somebody whose name on a building alone can change the value of that building quite drastically, that of course opinions are going to differ on these things.

00:12:46.000 But here's the crux of the matter.

00:12:48.000 Nobody was defrauded and you know nobody was defrauded because A, nobody made a complaint of being defrauded.

00:12:54.000 B, everybody that was supposed to be paid for the loans that were taken out by the Trump organization over a number of decades were repaid in full and were very happy with that business, so much so that they came back as repeat business partners with the Trump organization.

00:13:10.000 And then C, is that actually, of course, the most famous part of the case that a lot of people know now is that it's been the work of Judge Engeron, his staff, Alison Greenfield, and the AG's office that has actually been the ones who have been wrongly valuing a lot of Donald Trump's properties over the years.

00:13:28.000 So what we heard yesterday was that Deutsche Bank saying actually, in their own words, one of their own managing partners getting up there and saying, there's no problem with the client and us having a different valuation of a property.

00:13:43.000 That happens normally.

00:13:45.000 That happens actually more often than not.

00:13:48.000 He also made it very clear that, you know, while Deutsche Bank throughout those years lowered their estimation of Donald Trump's total wealth, they didn't change his ability to service those loans.

00:14:03.000 They had had successful business deals with him in the past, so they wanted to do more with him in the future.

00:14:08.000 And they didn't regard anything in those financial statements or any claims over the valuations of any of the properties to be, you know, farcical even, let alone fraudulent.

00:14:19.000 And so this is a critical part of the case, which I personally believe, me reading it myself, that if I heard that as a judge, I would say, well, okay, hold on a minute now here.

00:14:29.000 There's nobody been harmed.

00:14:31.000 There's no actual claim, you know, legal claim here.

00:14:34.000 Case dismissed.

00:14:35.000 Everybody go back to living their day-to-day lives.

00:14:38.000 But as we know, Judge Engeron and especially his far left staff members who are closely linked with people like Dan Goldman, who ran the first impeachment, with obviously the Titia James's office themselves.

00:14:51.000 They're not going to end the case there.

00:14:53.000 This is a show trial.

00:14:55.000 It is made simply to take up Donald Trump's time, to take up Donald Trump's money and to try and land him some negative press.

00:15:02.000 The good news about it all, as you know, Charlie, is I think in the long run, this only serves to help him.

00:15:08.000 So that's a good transition.

00:15:09.000 We have two minutes left here, Raheem.

00:15:11.000 I'm a little worried that there isn't a game plan or a war room of how we're going to navigate the coming law fair.

00:15:19.000 We're told that there's a trial coming in January.

00:15:21.000 Not only is it Iowa caucus season, but we're talking about trials in January.

00:15:24.000 Raheem, how are you analyzing and strategizing how we're going to go through what's going to be the spring of the law fair?

00:15:32.000 It never should happen.

00:15:33.000 It's anti-American.

00:15:34.000 It's unconstitutional. 0.81

00:15:36.000 But I think we need to prep our base for the looming just hurricane of nonsense.

00:15:43.000 I don't know if we've done a good enough job of fortifying our defenses.

00:15:46.000 Raheem, your thoughts?

00:15:48.000 Not at all.

00:15:49.000 I mean, not at all.

00:15:50.000 Not have we just not done a good enough job.

00:15:52.000 We haven't done a job.

00:15:55.000 The political right on both sides of the Atlantic is what we're seeing now going on in Ireland, what we're seeing going on in the United Kingdom is always overwhelmed and never prepared.

00:16:05.000 It comes back to the first topic that we talked about.

00:16:07.000 The money from the ostensible right, let's say, the Koch network counts within that.

00:16:11.000 They at least count as the ostensible right here in Washington, D.C. Not that that really means anything.

00:16:17.000 But places like that are happy to fritter.

00:16:20.000 millions, tens of millions of dollars away on things like that.

00:16:23.000 Meanwhile, right?

00:16:24.000 The information war, we're always playing catch up on.

00:16:27.000 We're always rebutting other articles and other things that are being said.

00:16:31.000 We're always reacting to the assertions that are made on Morning Joe or something like that.

00:16:35.000 We're not actually developing the cases ourselves.

00:16:38.000 It's been incredibly difficult to follow these trials alone and get ahead of these stories.

00:16:43.000 Even the Deutsche Bank story, which the media has tried to suppress, as you say, we go into the spring.

00:16:48.000 We're going to need a whole lot more.

00:16:50.000 We need more resources, quite frankly.

00:16:51.000 I mean, that's why, you know, at the National Pulse, we have a completely 100% user-funded thing.

00:16:56.000 We don't sell ads or anything like that.

00:16:58.000 We're not in hop to any corporates and billionaires or anything like that.

00:17:01.000 But my attitude towards people would be like saying this, you know, of course.

00:17:05.000 I mean, unfortunately, we don't have Project Veritas anymore, but we need more organizations like that doing real news.

00:17:11.000 Raheem, excellent work.

00:17:12.000 Hope to see you soon.

00:17:12.000 Thanks so much.

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00:18:14.000 Joining us now is Brendan O'Neill, chief political writer at Spiked Online.

00:18:19.000 He is English, but of Irish descent.

00:18:23.000 Very important piece that he wrote at Spiked Online, Ireland and the Fury of the Cancelled.

00:18:28.000 Last night's chaos in Dublin was a morbid symptom of Europe's decaying technocracy.

00:18:34.000 Lost to discuss.

00:18:35.000 Brendan, welcome to the program.

00:18:37.000 For those in our audience that are not aware, walk us through all the events that unfolded in Ireland in the last week.

00:18:44.000 On the 23rd of November at around 1.30 in the afternoon, a man stabbed three kids outside a school in Dublin and also one of their care workers.

00:18:54.000 One of the kids was very, very badly injured.

00:18:56.000 The others were injured to a lesser degree.

00:19:00.000 It turns out that this man is around 49 years old, I think.

00:19:04.000 He's of Algerian descent.

00:19:06.000 So he's an immigrant to Ireland, even though he's a naturalized citizen in Ireland as well.

00:19:11.000 And when ordinary people in Dublin found out about this, they were horrified.

00:19:14.000 They were shocked at the attack on Irish kids and they went onto the streets.

00:19:20.000 They started rioting.

00:19:21.000 They started fighting with the Irish police and there was looting.

00:19:25.000 And O'Connell Street in central Dublin, a street I have walked down many, many times, was set on fire, effectively.

00:19:32.000 It was the worst rioting in Dublin in a very long time.

00:19:36.000 So shocking scenes from Ireland.

00:19:38.000 And it really suggests that all is not well in the Irish Republic right now.

00:19:43.000 So I've been to Ireland before.

00:19:45.000 It's a beautiful country.

00:19:46.000 It's also somewhat of a sleepy country.

00:19:48.000 And I mean that nicely.

00:19:50.000 I mean, it's not a place like the French where it's known for its activism or its, you know, political outrage in the streets.

00:20:00.000 This seemed to be a straw that broke the camel's back.

00:20:03.000 We now, we know that 20% of Ireland is now foreign-born.

00:20:08.000 Walk us through some of the history and some of the background of how we got here, how Ireland allowed so many foreigners and third worlders into the beautiful country of Ireland.

00:20:22.000 You know, Ireland's immigration statistics are extraordinary.

00:20:25.000 And I think a lot of people outside Ireland don't realize just how extraordinary they are.

00:20:30.000 So as you've said there, 20% of people in Ireland were born outside of Ireland.

00:20:36.000 That's one in five people.

00:20:37.000 Now, to give you a sense of how extraordinary that is, during the great melting pot era in the United States, from the late 1800s to the early 1900s, the period in which we all talk about America as the great country of immigrants, around that time, between 14 and 16% of people in America were born outside of America.

00:20:59.000 So Ireland now has a higher proportion of immigrants than America did in its great immigration period.

00:21:05.000 This is really stunning stuff.

00:21:07.000 It's amazing.

00:21:08.000 And Ireland is not a country of mass immigration.

00:21:12.000 Ireland is a country of mass emigration.

00:21:14.000 That's how people like me ended up in London and people like me end up in America and Australia.

00:21:18.000 But it's not a country of mass immigration.

00:21:21.000 This is very unusual.

00:21:23.000 This is very new.

00:21:24.000 And people aren't allowed to talk about it.

00:21:26.000 When they talk about it and raise questions, they are demonized.

00:21:30.000 They are referred to as bigots.

00:21:31.000 If they march on the streets of Dublin to raise questions about mass immigration, as they have done, they are attacked by the police.

00:21:38.000 They are demonized by the president of Ireland, who referred to them as bigots earlier this year.

00:21:43.000 So I saw the riot on the 23rd of November as really the fury of the cancel, the rage off the left behind of people who feel like they've been overlooked.

00:21:53.000 Because if you close down every avenue of expression to ordinary people, eventually it's going to reach a boiling point.

00:22:00.000 So just walk me through then, where did this come from?

00:22:04.000 Was there a radical Marxist infiltration of the institutions in Ireland over the last couple of decades?

00:22:10.000 Because something here doesn't necessarily fit.

00:22:13.000 It's so suicidal.

00:22:14.000 It's so not in the best interest.

00:22:17.000 And Ireland is a country with a very distinct national identity, with a rich history, with a tough history, as you've mentioned, because of outward emigration, but a very proud people, a people that have a history despite all of the headwinds and the difficulties and the famines.

00:22:35.000 What is the ideological, where did the ideological cancer come from that has consumed the whole nation to basically say, if you disagree with us committing suicide, you're a bigot?

00:22:45.000 Well, you know, the first thing I think to really recognize is what has caused people to feel angry.

00:22:52.000 And, you know, there have been numerous violent events over the past couple of years that I think have pushed people over the edge.

00:22:58.000 So there was the murder of Ashlyn Murphy, a very young school teacher who was murdered in County Offaly.

00:23:05.000 It turned out that her killer was a man from Slovakia.

00:23:09.000 In Sligo last year, two gay men were killed, murdered.

00:23:14.000 One of them was decapitated.

00:23:16.000 A third gay man was very seriously injured in an attempted murder. 0.96

00:23:21.000 And those three attacks, those two murders and the further attack were carried out by a man from Iraq, who was proven to have a violent homophobic hatred for gay people. 0.82

00:23:32.000 That's why he attacked these three gay men in Sligo. 0.78

00:23:35.000 And now we have the attack in Dublin where an Algerian man attacked three school kids.

00:23:41.000 It's really important for people to understand how unusual events like this are in a country like Ireland.

00:23:47.000 Ireland is a small country.

00:23:49.000 It's a country predominantly of tight-knit communities.

00:23:52.000 It's still a very rural country.

00:23:54.000 Where my parents come from in the west of Ireland is fairly typical.

00:23:57.000 It's a small town.

00:23:59.000 Everyone knows everyone else.

00:24:01.000 Everyone stops and talks in the street when they walk by each other.

00:24:05.000 It's not, you know, in a crowded city like London and some cities in America, it is sadly not unknown for random acts of violence like that to occur.

00:24:15.000 But in Ireland, it's very unusual.

00:24:17.000 And that really pushed people over the edge.

00:24:19.000 And what people are now asking is exactly the question you've raised, Charlie, which is why has our political class allowed this to happen?

00:24:26.000 I think it's partly because the Taoiseach, the leader of Ireland, Leo Varadka, is very much in hop to the European Union.

00:24:34.000 And of course, the European Union puts pressure on its member states to accept a certain number of migrants, to accept the ideology of freedom of movement.

00:24:43.000 It's also because immigration has become a way for the chattering classes in Ireland to morally distinguish themselves from ordinary people. 0.99

00:24:53.000 Immigration has become a tool through which they signal their virtue and say, we're open-minded, we're good people, we're anti-racist, we love people from all around the world as a way of saying we're better than the rest of you. 0.52

00:25:06.000 So immigration has been weaponized by both the European Union and the Dublin establishment itself.

00:25:12.000 And ordinary people, I think, have been pushed to boiling point on this question.

00:25:16.000 Yeah, and the radicalism we're seeing from some of the people.

00:25:20.000 I want to just play this here.

00:25:23.000 52, the Irish Prime Minister, Leo Varadikar, which doesn't sound like an Irish name, maybe I'm wrong, is telling you not to connect crime with migration.

00:25:33.000 Play Cut 52.

00:25:37.000 The terrible events that occurred on Parnell Square on Thursday, you know, I really would ask people to try and avoid connecting crime with migration.

00:25:50.000 It's not right.

00:25:52.000 Yes, of course, people who are migrants might commit crimes, just as people who aren't commit crimes. 1.00

00:26:01.000 Where does that come from?

00:26:03.000 I mean, we see it in the left as well.

00:26:04.000 I just, sorry, in America as well.

00:26:07.000 It doesn't seem, it seems to be consuming the entire West.

00:26:11.000 And so Leo Varadikar, whatever, said that the government is very white and vowed to make the institutions more diverse.

00:26:19.000 This comes after the government blamed riots following an immigrant stabbing little kids on hooligans driven by far-right ideology, led in over 120,000 foreigners last year, targeting the police force, the defense forces, the education sector.

00:26:34.000 Ireland is over 94% white.

00:26:35.000 So let me, I have a couple of thoughts.

00:26:37.000 Was this, is this some, do they justify this through economic stimulus, saying that we need to try to improve our economy and that this helps the people of Cork and Dublin and low-wage jobs?

00:26:49.000 Is that one of the ways that they try to pitch this to the Irish?

00:26:54.000 That is one of the ways they try to pitch it.

00:26:56.000 It's very unconvincing.

00:26:58.000 A lot of immigrants benefit from the state resources of Ireland. 0.85

00:27:02.000 They can claim certain benefits, for example.

00:27:04.000 They can have housing.

00:27:06.000 It is being reported that the man who carried out the stabbing in Dublin is someone who has benefited from state resources and state welfare for quite some time.

00:27:15.000 So sometimes immigrants contribute to the country of Ireland and the economy. 0.62

00:27:21.000 Of course they do.

00:27:21.000 If you go to Dublin, you will see immigrants working in shops, working in hotels, in hospitality.

00:27:28.000 They do a good job and they do contribute to the economy.

00:27:31.000 But there are other immigrants who come to Ireland who don't.

00:27:35.000 And that's a fact of life.

00:27:36.000 And people in Ireland ought to have the liberty to talk about that and to raise questions about the wisdom of inviting so many people into the country.

00:27:45.000 As to why they're doing it, I think, yes, they justify it as a form of economic stimulus.

00:27:50.000 They also use it, as I was saying earlier, as a form of political virtue signaling.

00:27:55.000 You know, we are good, decent members of the European Union, and like the rest of the European Union, we are open to immigration.

00:28:02.000 So, there's that element of it as well.

00:28:04.000 But I think there's so much gaslighting coming from Leo Varadka and the rest of the government in Dublin because they now say that anyone who criticizes mass immigration is a racist and a member of the far right and a bigot.

00:28:19.000 And that is simply not the case.

00:28:21.000 I know lots of people in Ireland who are liberal or left-wing or maybe centrists who increasingly feel uncomfortable with the lack of debate about immigration in Ireland, the lack of honesty about immigration, and the lack of ability for ordinary people to raise questions about this policy.

00:28:41.000 So he's wrong to damn people as far right.

00:28:44.000 And I think that's throwing petrol onto the fire of people's anger. 0.95

00:28:47.000 Yeah, I want to keep on diving into this.

00:28:49.000 I mean, there's a lot of descendants of the Irish in America.

00:28:54.000 So it's very interesting to a lot of Americans here.

00:28:56.000 Obviously, this is something I would expect out of Germany that has just been beat into submission to have this sort of multi-generational guilt.

00:29:04.000 Like, you know, we'll keep on taking your foreigners as long as you stop blaming us.

00:29:08.000 I just, I don't expect it out of Ireland.

00:29:10.000 And it's really been interesting to see how some European countries, like Hungary and Poland, say, no, we're not going to do this, you know, importation of the third world thing. 0.84

00:29:20.000 And other countries, in a very perplexing way, like Ireland being one, not the only one, like Scotland being another one, the United Kingdom, just say, come on in.

00:29:29.000 We have no national identity.

00:29:33.000 For years, we've been talking about how our nation's public schools have been captured by progressive ideologues.

00:29:39.000 They teach things that directly contradict the values of millions of Americans.

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00:30:55.000 So Brendan, just kind of covering Europe in general, we're seeing this a little bit, not just Europe, but the Western world.

00:31:01.000 You see it a little bit in Argentina, a little bit in the Netherlands.

00:31:04.000 You're seeing a building rejection of the elements of mass migration, technocracy, an overly centralized Brussels-type Strasbourg-type governing elite.

00:31:19.000 Walk us through from a European perspective what you're noticing and witnessing here.

00:31:24.000 What are the main drivers of this political realignment?

00:31:27.000 Yeah, I think there's a populist revolt taking place around the Western world.

00:31:32.000 I personally find it very exciting and very important.

00:31:36.000 I like to think that we Brits were kind of at the forefront of it when we voted for Brexit in 2016.

00:31:42.000 We voted to break away from the European Union, which was an earthquake in Western politics.

00:31:47.000 You know, Britain, alongside France and Germany, was the key member of the EU.

00:31:53.000 And we kind of set the ball rolling really on a populist spirit that has gripped many parts of Europe.

00:31:59.000 We've seen the rise of Giorgio Maloney in Italy.

00:32:02.000 We've seen the success of the Sweden Democrats in Sweden, which is a party that criticizes immigration.

00:32:09.000 You mentioned Geert Wilders most recently, his surprise victory in the Netherlands.

00:32:14.000 You know, what's really interesting, and I think some of your listeners may not be aware of this, is that actually people in Ireland beat us to the punch because in the 2000s, in 2001, the Irish people voted against the Nice Treaty, which was a treaty to expand the power of the EU.

00:32:31.000 And in 2007, they voted against the Lisbon Treaty, which was another attempt to expand the power of the EU.

00:32:37.000 In both cases, they were ignored and forced to vote again, which created a lot of animus in Ireland towards the European Union. 0.91

00:32:45.000 So I think one of the great ironies about Ireland is that the political class there doesn't realize that even its own population, who they think are just a bunch of idiots, that's how they treat them, even they are sceptical of the growing technocratic power of the EU. 0.93

00:33:01.000 And even they have flirted with the populist ideals that we've seen growing up over the past couple of decades. 0.95

00:33:07.000 So I think what's happening in Europe is that working class communities in particular, working class voters, the left behind, the people who are ignored, the kind of people who in the United States formed the backbone of the vote for Donald Trump, they have risen up and said, we're sick of being ignored. 0.70

00:33:25.000 We're sick of being treated like trash.

00:33:27.000 We're sick of being gaslit and censored and demeaned. 0.62

00:33:30.000 And we're going to stand up for ourselves and vote for a different way of doing politics.

00:33:34.000 And they've tried that in Ireland and it failed.

00:33:37.000 And I think they may well try it again because the establishment there is behaving incredibly badly.

00:33:43.000 Yeah, and I think there is a Western, there's Western themes here of pushing back against the overly centralized World Economic Forum-esque type governing model.

00:33:57.000 I need to play this tape here because it's so extraordinary.

00:34:00.000 It's Cut 77.

00:34:02.000 The Irish government expects the big tech companies to do censoring for them.

00:34:07.000 It's amazing.

00:34:07.000 Play Cut 77.

00:34:09.000 I spoke to a detective in Pierce Street on Saturday who was actively engaged with the social media companies throughout Thursday, who was actively engaged with TikTok, actively engaged with Meta, so Instagram and Facebook, who was actively engaged with Twitter or X.

00:34:25.000 She said very clearly that social media companies, in particular TikTok and Meta, they were responding, they were engaging with Gardi and they were taking down these vile posts as they came up.

00:34:37.000 X were not. 0.72

00:34:39.000 X were not. 0.72

00:34:40.000 They didn't engage.

00:34:41.000 They did not fulfill their own community standards.

00:34:44.000 And that is why we are moving to a situation where these companies do not get to self-monitor.

00:34:49.000 That's why Commission the Man has been established to make sure that these companies are held responsible because while some were responsible, others were not.

00:34:58.000 So let me reassure you, Gardy were seized off this.

00:35:01.000 They were engaging.

00:35:02.000 They were engaging directly with the social media companies.

00:35:05.000 They just expect mass censorship.

00:35:07.000 It's absolutely staggering to me that she can be proud that the police were engaging with social media, which basically means the police were putting pressure on social media to censor certain people.

00:35:18.000 That is the beginnings of a police state.

00:35:20.000 When you have the police directly demanding that certain people's posts be taken down and certain people's voices be silenced, that is the beginning of a form of Stalinism.

00:35:30.000 And this is how serious the crisis in Ireland has become.

00:35:33.000 Where the government feels more contempt for its own people and their freeborn liberties than it does for the man who carried out that wicked attack outside of school.

00:35:42.000 It really is quite repulsive.

00:35:44.000 Brendan, excellent work.

00:35:46.000 Thank you so much.

00:35:47.000 You're welcome anytime.

00:35:48.000 God bless you.

00:35:48.000 Thank you.

00:35:52.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:54.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:57.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:58.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 30, 2023

The Race to Iowa + Mass Rebellion in Ireland

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