The Charlie Kirk Show - The Radical Regressive Left

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00:01:28.000 Slippery slope.

00:01:30.000 I'm sure you've heard that phrase before.

00:01:33.000 Slippery slope is oftentimes used in arguments when someone says, because of one thing, it's going to lead inevitably to a chain reaction of things in the future.

00:01:46.000 I used to use slippery slope as an argument in eighth grade and throughout high school.

00:01:50.000 And then a teacher who taught logic at our high school and was a very nice individual pointed out correctly, at least at the time, that a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy.

00:02:04.000 So if you look up slippery slope argument in your search engine, it will go through the types of logical fallacies that there are.

00:02:14.000 And slippery slope is one of them.

00:02:17.000 Essentially, it says, you said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too.

00:02:21.000 Therefore, A should not happen.

00:02:24.000 This is according to yourlogicalfallacyis.com.

00:02:27.000 And a lot of college students, a lot of high school students use this as a way to understand logical fallacies.

00:02:33.000 If you don't know what a logical fallacy is, it is a type of argumentation that is incorrect and is logically flawed.

00:02:40.000 There's also red herring arguments.

00:02:42.000 There's also the fallacy fallacy argument.

00:02:45.000 There is the appeal to emotion, which the left uses.

00:02:47.000 There's the false cause.

00:02:48.000 There's the straw man.

00:02:49.000 There's the middle ground.

00:02:51.000 There is the Texas sharpshooter.

00:02:53.000 You probably don't know that one, but that is cherry-picked data cluster to suit your argument or found a pattern to fit a presumption.

00:03:00.000 There's anecdotal logical fallacy, appeal to nature, begging the question, black or white, genetic.

00:03:06.000 You get the point.

00:03:07.000 So there's all sorts of different logical fallacies.

00:03:10.000 But the slippery slope one, recently, I've asked myself, is it really a logical fallacy?

00:03:17.000 Is believing in a slippery slope actually a logical fallacy?

00:03:23.000 So let's go again back to the textbook definition of what a slippery slope is.

00:03:28.000 Ubi's like saying this.

00:03:30.000 If we allow there to be some form of gun control, eventually the left is going to want to take away all of our guns.

00:03:37.000 Again, in almost all forms of education, they will say you cannot use the slippery slope argument.

00:03:42.000 It is a domino fallacy.

00:03:46.000 This was coined by Jacob E. Van Fleet, who said, quote, precisely because we can never know if a whole series of events and or a certain result is determined to follow one event or action in particular.

00:03:58.000 This is actually wrong, especially when you're dealing with the left.

00:04:04.000 And so I'm not saying that the entire idea of a slippery slope argument is inherently a logical fallacy.

00:04:10.000 I am, however, telling you I have a lot of problems with totally rejecting the thought process behind dismissing the slippery slope because we have so many pieces of evidence around a slippery slope or as a domino effect right here in our country.

00:04:27.000 Take abortion, for example.

00:04:29.000 First, it was Bill Clinton who said safe, legal, and rare.

00:04:32.000 Those of us that were pro-life said, well, this is just going to result in more abortions. 0.99

00:04:37.000 This will result in more children being slaughtered in the womb.

00:04:41.000 And now we see that's exactly what's happening.

00:04:43.000 Now we have infanticide that is legal in the state of Virginia and New York.

00:04:46.000 Gun control. 0.71

00:04:47.000 I used that one previously.

00:04:48.000 First, they said it was background checks.

00:04:50.000 Now it's Joe Biden who wants to appoint Robert Francis O'Rourke, who wants to confiscate all of our guns.

00:04:56.000 How about healthcare?

00:04:58.000 And healthcare, Barack Obama said we need Obamacare, which he promised was not socialized medicine.

00:05:04.000 Now Bernie Sanders wants socialized medicine.

00:05:06.000 How about climate change? 0.99

00:05:07.000 First they wanted to cut emissions.

00:05:09.000 Now they want a multi-trillion dollar Green New Deal.

00:05:13.000 The same is now true with DFUN, the police.

00:05:17.000 The same is always true with these radical revolutionaries.

00:05:21.000 They want to attain some amount of progress off a cliff.

00:05:26.000 And so the same is always true with radical revolutionaries.

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00:06:34.000 Now, there is a very hard to understand but incredibly instrumental philosopher, and his name was George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.

00:06:47.000 He was born in 1770 and died in 1831.

00:06:51.000 To say that his readings are difficult to understand would be the understatement of the century.

00:06:58.000 He writes in highly complex, very hard to compute language.

00:07:05.000 And German to English translation is difficult on even a good day.

00:07:09.000 It's incredibly difficult with George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.

00:07:16.000 However, Hegel wrote a book that might be one of the most important pieces of philosophy since Plato or Aristotle that might actually be solely responsible for both Nazi Germany and USSR.

00:07:32.000 It is called the Phenomenology of Spirit.

00:07:35.000 It was written in 1807.

00:07:39.000 Hegel described this piece of work as an exposition of the coming to be of knowledge.

00:07:45.000 I have attempted to try and read this, and I have failed.

00:07:49.000 I have actually really good friends who have masters and doctorates in philosophy, and I have asked them to help me learn Hegel and guide me through it.

00:08:00.000 It is just such a tough read.

00:08:01.000 I was not comprehending it.

00:08:03.000 And so, this Hegel came after Kant, and we can get into more philosophy, and I know a lot of you enjoy it when I go into it.

00:08:10.000 The reason I'm mentioning it, though, is that Hegel developed something that he did not even coin this term himself, but it is widely known as the Hegelian dialectic.

00:08:20.000 The Hegelian dialectic, in some ways, is almost like a march madness bracket of the constant forward push of human civilization.

00:08:30.000 Without getting too far into the weeds here, the Hegelian dialectic, if applied to modern day, explains the radical left more so than any other piece of philosophy.

00:08:42.000 And quite honestly, Hegel might be one of the most consequential philosophers in world history.

00:08:47.000 And the irony and the tragedy is that Hegel himself would not approve of the application of his philosophy.

00:08:55.000 Hegel was a Christian, he was a believer in God.

00:08:58.000 Hegel himself would be saddened about how his work was corrupted and manipulated.

00:09:05.000 And if you look at Nietzsche, he himself would say he was mostly inspired by Hegel.

00:09:12.000 Not to mention Rousseau and so many thinkers that came in the mid-1800s that developed the modern left as we know it today, especially the European left that took over the entire continent in the mid-1930s.

00:09:27.000 And so now consider this article from the Atlantic's Adam Harris, who says this: First comes police reform, then comes everything else.

00:09:35.000 Americans took to the streets to protest police brutality, but the need for systemic reform runs much deeper.

00:09:41.000 So if you use the Hegelian dialectic, you have a thesis and an antithesis or an antithesis, depending on how you pronounce the word.

00:09:48.000 And the way the Hegelian dialectic essentially works is then a synthesis comes out of the thesis and the antithesis or the antithesis, and the synthesis is a sum of both parts.

00:10:00.000 Very complex, very hard to understand.

00:10:02.000 However, let me try to explain it for you.

00:10:05.000 Essentially, it is the argument that humans and civilizations are going to try to continue on this onward trajectory, that the slippery slope is not a fallacy, it's actually factually inevitable.

00:10:18.000 That especially when you're dealing with the left and how they try to continue to almost progress us off a cliff, it is not unfair to say that they want to abolish the police so they can also abolish civil society.

00:10:33.000 Now, using the idea that the slippery slope is a fallacy would dismiss this altogether.

00:10:41.000 I no longer believe that the slippery slope is a fallacy.

00:10:44.000 I don't.

00:10:45.000 I have too much evidence to show that is exactly how the left operates.

00:10:50.000 Now, mind you, I do think that the slippery slope is a fallacy when you talk about conservatives.

00:10:55.000 Because conservatives are not trying to always endlessly and relentlessly push towards progress.

00:11:02.000 Because for conservatives, we want to improve society around the laws of nature designed by nature's God.

00:11:10.000 So we actually are content at a certain point when we're able to say, yes, people have natural rights under the law.

00:11:17.000 Yes, we now have made murder illegal.

00:11:21.000 We're happy with that particular victory.

00:11:23.000 We have protected your right to worship.

00:11:26.000 Whereas the left, they will not be happy with that.

00:11:28.000 The left wants to instead abolish religion altogether or to try to continue and relentlessly have a motivation that is pathological in nature to destroy modern society.

00:11:40.000 And so this Atlantic article, I think, articulates this better than any other piece of writing that I have seen recently, where they admit that police reform is nothing more than a gateway drug to a leftist totalitarian takeover of American society.

00:11:57.000 So again, the title is first comes police reform, then comes everything else.

00:12:04.000 So Adam Harris is saying, let's just get police reform, then we can fundamentally destroy our civil society.

00:12:10.000 He continues by saying, people are on the streets this summer over the murder of George Floyd, but the current racial reckoning in America goes far beyond lethal policing.

00:12:19.000 People are in the streets because black students are five times more likely than white students to attend highly segregated schools.

00:12:25.000 Because black unemployment is regularly twice the white unemployment rate because racist housing policies have locked black families into unequal neighborhoods and out of the prospect of building wealth.

00:12:36.000 But to go back, black students are five more times likely than white students to attend highly segregated schools.

00:12:43.000 What does that even mean?

00:12:46.000 First of all, does he mean that they're more likely to attend all black schools?

00:12:51.000 Or are they more likely to attend schools where races are segregated?

00:12:56.000 We don't have segregated schools.

00:12:57.000 So does he mean that black kids are more likely to attend schools where they mostly have people that look like them?

00:13:03.000 Isn't that what the left wants? 0.93

00:13:04.000 They want black-only dormitories. 1.00

00:13:06.000 They want black-only content creators at YouTube.

00:13:08.000 Adam Harris links to an article from the Economic Policy Institute on explaining what it means, saying that black individuals are more likely to go to black-only schools.

00:13:17.000 But isn't that what they want?

00:13:19.000 Again, you look at so many colleges and so many universities where they've created black-only dormitories, black-only math classes. 0.99

00:13:26.000 I don't think that's a good thing, but the left is acting as if that is progress. 0.99

00:13:31.000 So CHOP or Chaz, the former country that once existed in Seattle, they had black-only food lines. 0.99

00:13:39.000 They had black-only speaking rights. 0.96

00:13:42.000 The entire idea was that black people should be given preference or segregated within their newly founded country. 0.98

00:13:50.000 Adam Harris continued by just writing more rubbish, by saying this. 1.00

00:13:54.000 White Americans have stolen black Americans' land. 1.00

00:13:57.000 They have stolen their property, stated as if it's just a fact. 0.98

00:14:00.000 And so then he links to a article that's written by The Atlantic from September 2019 called The Great Land Robbery, the shameful story of how one million black families have been ripped from their farms.

00:14:12.000 And it goes on and on.

00:14:13.000 It's a very questionable argument historically, and I reject the premise that white people, as generalized as every single white person in the country, have stolen every single black person's piece of land. 0.89

00:14:28.000 Incredibly racist, actually, to say it.

00:14:30.000 So Adam Harris says, in some places, there's a 20-year life expectancy gap between white and black people.

00:14:36.000 Okay, let's just, all these discrepancies can be explained not by race, not by color, instead, by were you raised by a two-parent household?

00:14:46.000 That's what it comes down to.

00:14:47.000 Were you raised in a stable family environment?

00:14:50.000 If yes, higher likelihood to succeed.

00:14:52.000 If no, lower likelihood to succeed.

00:14:54.000 You read every single one of these grievance, oppression Olympic type articles written by the left, they time and time again blame racism as the single, only, and the contributing factor as to why black people have fallen behind in America.

00:15:15.000 I never say that racism does not exist.

00:15:17.000 I do say, though, it is not even close to the predominant reason or even a major reason at all as to why black Americans are not doing well.

00:15:28.000 The major reason is the destruction of the American family and the Great Society Act passed by Lyndon Baines Johnson, where women married the government instead of marrying men.

00:15:38.000 By marrying the government, they became addicted to government programs where white liberals came in with government subsidies and subsidized single motherhood and then sent children to failing public schools run by public sector teacher unions.

00:15:54.000 You repeat this cycle over a couple decades, you all of a sudden have a fatherlessness rate upwards of 77% in the black community, according to the Washington Examiner. 0.66

00:16:07.000 And so the left looks at all of these reforms and all of these conversations as the beginning of a much broader and diabolical agenda to destroy our country.

00:16:19.000 And so, yes, when I say that they first want to abolish the police, then they want to come from everything else, I'm actually not engaging in a logical fallacy.

00:16:30.000 I'm reading off the title of the article on The Atlantic.

00:16:34.000 And so this is a very important point because the left wants to continue to endlessly progress our society into chaos.

00:16:44.000 They want to create disunity where there is order, and where there is chaos, they want to continue that chaos.

00:16:51.000 They want to do this for a couple reasons.

00:16:53.000 When there is chaos, there's a license to control people.

00:16:56.000 Where there is chaos, politicians and the ruling class elite that otherwise might not have been very important in the general conversation or the contribution of decision-making all of a sudden become incredibly important.

00:17:10.000 Also, when there is chaos, the people who are actually suffering have no choice but to appeal to a higher ruling class authority.

00:17:20.000 Please save me, Maxine Waters, because I can barely get by.

00:17:24.000 It creates the leftist ruling class almost in a messianic state where they are so important, they almost become semi-deities on earth, which in reality is one of the primary objectives of the American left.

00:17:41.000 It's what Mao wanted to do. 0.84

00:17:43.000 It is what Pol Pot wanted to do. 0.50

00:17:46.000 This is all part of an agenda to try to achieve socialism. 0.75

00:17:50.000 You ultimately need to seize other people's purpose, property, goodwill, and virtue by coercion or force.

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00:18:56.000 And so I take issue with anyone who says that they're going to stop.

00:19:01.000 There is zero evidence at all that the left has ever stopped, that they've ever been satisfied with just making sure that abortion is safe, legal, and rare.

00:19:13.000 Instead, there's evidence to show that they want abortion to be ubiquitous and glamorized with the shout your abortion movement.

00:19:21.000 There is no evidence to show that once the left bans semi-automatic weapons, that they're not going to want to go after handguns, which they have done all across the country.

00:19:32.000 The left is a relentless force to try to debase and destroy everything that we care about in our country.

00:19:39.000 And so to understand the left is to understand the thinkers that built the philosophy around this insidious and dangerous thought process.

00:19:51.000 They're not content with beauty.

00:19:54.000 They're not content with order because they don't believe in either of those things.

00:19:58.000 They don't believe in absolute or objective truth.

00:20:02.000 So when you think about that, we as conservatives, we, a lot of you listening, are Christians.

00:20:08.000 We believe in absolute truth.

00:20:10.000 There is a God who loves us, that wants us to have eternal life.

00:20:15.000 Okay, when you have a commitment to that truth, all of a sudden you want to preserve the laws of nature and of nature's God.

00:20:22.000 Where is that sentence first said?

00:20:24.000 The Declaration of Independence and previously by John Locke.

00:20:28.000 But the left, first of all, they do not believe in God.

00:20:30.000 And if they do, it's a different type of relationship with God.

00:20:34.000 But most of them do not believe in God, especially the radical fundamentalist ideologues.

00:20:39.000 So therefore, if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in absolute truth, you're going to try to find that truth by designing the country or the world or public policy towards a utopian model.

00:20:54.000 The left believes that these institutions are corrupt because they are part of hierarchies, hierarchies of power and hierarchies of oppression.

00:21:07.000 It's a whole nother conversation that we can have about how hierarchies are natural, hierarchies are necessary, hierarchies are healthy, and hierarchies are inevitable.

00:21:17.000 The issue is that the left completely and totally rejects that hierarchies are ever needed at all.

00:21:23.000 We've talked about this at length here on the Charlie Kirk show about how Jean-Jacques Rousseau, he said, I value the infant over the adult, the primitive over the civilized.

00:21:35.000 The root of their argument is that there is systemic oppression in Western society.

00:21:41.000 There is oppression in private property.

00:21:43.000 There is oppression in commerce.

00:21:46.000 There is oppression in individuals having the right to speak.

00:21:51.000 There is oppression in absolute truth.

00:21:54.000 And so when you think about it, a lot of what the left is trying to create is a return back to indigenous roots, a return away from private property, but to collective ownership.

00:22:09.000 To go back away almost to Incan socialism.

00:22:12.000 And there is evidence that in Peru, the Incan Empire, they lived in a very communal socialistic state.

00:22:20.000 It didn't work out that well.

00:22:21.000 They actually disappeared and or starved off the face of the earth.

00:22:26.000 But when you have this conversation of my truth, your truth, it's really an attack on God and his hierarchy and an exclusive claim of truth.

00:22:36.000 So I read this article from The Atlantic, and it proves it perfectly.

00:22:40.000 First comes police reform, then comes everything else.

00:22:44.000 So they begin with George Floyd and the evil murder of George Floyd, which then becomes an excuse to destroy Mount Rushmore.

00:22:54.000 So you have an evil cop in Minneapolis, and then you go destroy a monument where over 3 million people visit every single year and has become one of the incredible symbols of the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:23:09.000 How is that possible?

00:23:10.000 Because the slippery slope exists.

00:23:13.000 And now you see the direction that the left is going to try to create a tribal, primitive America, not an industrialized, Western, egalitarian America around natural rights, but instead almost try to return us back to 2nd century BC, where people were quite indigenous.

00:23:33.000 And I'm not saying that it's necessarily derogatory, but it is inherently regressive.

00:23:39.000 It just is.

00:23:40.000 Where freedom of speech was not protected, when guess what?

00:23:42.000 Slavery existed?

00:23:44.000 When people were judged on their skin color, not their character.

00:23:47.000 And you have Jamal Bowman.

00:23:49.000 He defeated Elliot Engel to win June primary in New York's 16th congressional district.

00:23:55.000 He believes in a reconstruction agenda, which includes free college, wealth tax, baby bonds.

00:24:00.000 But his agenda really begins with reconciling with history.

00:24:03.000 That reconciliation would inevitably require some form of reparations.

00:24:08.000 I've talked about at length why reparations are incredibly racist.

00:24:13.000 Do I get reparations because my great uncle seven generations ago fought in the Civil War to help free the slaves?

00:24:20.000 Do I get reparations for that? 0.65

00:24:21.000 No, that would be foolish, right?

00:24:23.000 Because I didn't do that.

00:24:24.000 So therefore, why should I have to pay for something that I didn't do, that no one in my family did?

00:24:30.000 In fact, the opposite.

00:24:31.000 My family contributed to the betterment of black America, not the detriment of black America.

00:24:37.000 I can trace my Kirk roots all the way back to guess what year?

00:24:41.000 Guess the first year that the Kirks came to North America, 1620, one year after the first slaves arrived under English colonial rule.

00:24:52.000 However, my ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War.

00:24:56.000 Abner Abbey was the individual who fought in the Revolutionary War and is buried in Boston to this day.

00:25:03.000 It's on my father's mother's side.

00:25:07.000 So what reparations do I have to pay, for example, for exactly?

00:25:11.000 What do I have to apologize for our nation's history?

00:25:15.000 By the way, the Reconstruction agenda that Jamal Brown mentions is in reference to the post-Civil War Reconstruction era, 40 acres and a mule idea.

00:25:25.000 This is the new Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, by the way.

00:25:28.000 He is proposing truly radical, progressive ideas.

00:25:33.000 But this isn't reform in keeping with nature and of nature's God.

00:25:38.000 This is a revolution against America.

00:25:41.000 So that's a very good compass to guide all this on.

00:25:46.000 If someone is proposing something away from natural rights and away from how human beings are needed to flourish, pause carefully.

00:25:58.000 Not all progress is good.

00:26:01.000 In fact, some progress can be really bad.

00:26:03.000 I had this conversation once with a leftist on a campus.

00:26:06.000 She said, all progress is good.

00:26:08.000 I said, all progress is good?

00:26:09.000 She says, yes, our society is so awful it needs to change always.

00:26:12.000 I said, okay.

00:26:13.000 How about laws that prohibit pedophilia?

00:26:16.000 You get rid of those?

00:26:17.000 And she said, no, I wouldn't get rid of those.

00:26:19.000 I said, well, maybe something shouldn't change then.

00:26:22.000 Maybe some things are actually the way they should be.

00:26:25.000 In fact, in some ways, we have things better than we could ever possibly realize as far as equality under the law, expression, freedom of consciousness and of thought.

00:26:39.000 And by the way, this is why Martin Luther King Jr.'s reforms on civil rights were so good.

00:26:45.000 Because he called for all men being equal, judging one by the content of their character, which is a biblical idea.

00:26:52.000 And it goes back to the Bible verse that inspired the foundation of Western society that you are made in the image of God, Galatians 3.28, where it says, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

00:27:11.000 BLM is a regression movement, not a progressive movement.

00:27:16.000 They say they're progressive. 1.00

00:27:18.000 Reality, they want to bring us back to tribal warfare.

00:27:22.000 And mind you, we should not be on the side of progress.

00:27:25.000 This is the lie of the left.

00:27:27.000 Sometimes things should not change.

00:27:30.000 Sometimes things should be preserved and kept intact.

00:27:35.000 That's the root of conservatism.

00:27:37.000 Let me give you an example of this.

00:27:39.000 In fact, I actually want to go back to how some things used to be, not back to tribal roots.

00:27:45.000 I want to go back to when families did not have a 50% chance of being broken up through divorce.

00:27:52.000 I would love to go back to when, as a society, most of our country spoke English.

00:27:59.000 I'd love to go back to a time when we made most of the products we consumed here in America.

00:28:05.000 I'd love to go back to a time when we did not borrow $2 trillion every single year.

00:28:10.000 I'd love to go back to a time when the church was the center of the community.

00:28:14.000 So if it means to be a progressive to go back to when families used to stay together, I guess.

00:28:21.000 But no, it's a conservative.

00:28:24.000 Because by definition, by being a conservative, you say, this is true, this is right.

00:28:29.000 Let's conserve those things.

00:28:31.000 Those things are life.

00:28:32.000 Those things are the family.

00:28:34.000 Those things are work.

00:28:35.000 Those things are private property.

00:28:37.000 Those things are charity.

00:28:38.000 Those things are the church.

00:28:39.000 Those things are things that give you meaning.

00:28:42.000 The left has never advocated anything that has given a human being meaning.

00:28:48.000 Instead, the left has only advocated for things that give human beings madness and misery.

00:28:54.000 The left will only advocate for things that make human beings short-term, pleased, long-term, miserable.

00:29:03.000 The left, they are experts.

00:29:07.000 And I should really define what I mean more by the left.

00:29:09.000 I mean people that believe in the fundamental transformation and destabilization of our country.

00:29:16.000 People like Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Kazi-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and also Nancy Pelosi, who protects for them.

00:29:23.000 We as conservatives have to stand for what is righteous, what is true, and what is good in opposition to the radicals.

00:29:31.000 And so I see very clearly where this is headed.

00:29:34.000 As BLM Inc. is trying to fundamentally destroy the fabric of our country, they're trying to be arsonists for America.

00:29:42.000 We have to stand firm against their diabolical agenda because one small inch that we give the left, they're going to take a mile.

00:29:51.000 That is why we went so firm against Senator Mike Braun.

00:29:55.000 That is why when we stood up against Republican Senator Mike Braun and we saw that he was trying to appease the left through qualified immunity police reform and he said a good thing about BLM Inc. and he later sent out a press release that seems like he reversed course.

00:30:14.000 And I actually think that is a really good teaching moment for us conservatives because people say, well, Charlie, what can I do?

00:30:21.000 Give clear, easy to understand, impossible to screw up instructions to Republican lawmakers.

00:30:29.000 They need those instructions.

00:30:30.000 So any Republican out there listening, that's a lawmaker, don't say good things about BLM Inc. 0.99

00:30:37.000 That's probably a good starting point. 0.97

00:30:40.000 Anything that groups people on skin color, not character, bad organization. 1.00

00:30:46.000 These are good and necessary points of reference. 1.00

00:30:51.000 The current movements in America want to bring us back to tribalism.

00:30:55.000 And it's actually proven through the slippery slope.

00:30:59.000 It's not a fallacy.

00:31:01.000 It is, in fact, factual, especially dealing with an entire political movement that is rooted in the endless, relentless, and committed destabilization of what is good, what is true, and what is righteous in our beautiful country.

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00:32:17.000 Now, as evidence of what I just said previously, Barry Weiss, who is one of the few conservative-leaning writers at the New York Times, and she's really just an old school liberal, not a leftist in an illiberal newsroom, she dropped a bomb on the failing New York Times.

00:32:32.000 So she basically resigned recently in the last 24 to 48 hours, and she went down in a blaze of incredible glory.

00:32:39.000 And I want to have her on the podcast, and we're trying to actually get her on the Charlie Kirk show to help her promote her book.

00:32:44.000 I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but we'll see.

00:32:47.000 So she read, this is part of her stunning and scathing rebuke of the New York Times.

00:32:51.000 It said, quote, my own forays into wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views.

00:32:58.000 They have called me a Nazi and a racist.

00:33:01.000 I've learned to brush off comments about how I'm, quote, writing about the Jews things again.

00:33:05.000 Mind you, Weiss is Jewish herself.

00:33:08.000 She continued by saying, Several colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers.

00:33:13.000 My work and my character are openly demeaned on a company-wide Slack channel where masthead editors regularly weigh in.

00:33:21.000 This is so evident.

00:33:23.000 This is so obvious.

00:33:24.000 It's obviously an open, hostile environment for conservatives at the New York Times.

00:33:29.000 But she continues by saying, Part of me wishes I could stay there.

00:33:32.000 Part of me wishes I could say that my experience was unique.

00:33:34.000 But the truth is that intellectual curiosity, let alone risk-taking, is now a liability at the New York Times.

00:33:40.000 And it's becoming a liability all across America.

00:33:43.000 It starts on college campuses and ends up in the halls of Congress and in the boardrooms of places like New York Times.

00:33:48.000 What happens on campuses will happen in the halls of Congress and in American culture.

00:33:53.000 I say this all the time at Turning Point USA.

00:33:55.000 I say that the leading indicator is what happens on campuses.

00:33:58.000 So we allow this virus to spread, and we once thought what was happening on our college campuses would be like Chernobyl, just a nuclear spill dump or a waste dump, when in reality it was a pathogen.

00:34:13.000 It is a virus.

00:34:14.000 It is incubated.

00:34:15.000 It is spread.

00:34:16.000 And it has spread to newsrooms all across the country.

00:34:20.000 And this is really what Jonah Goldberg talked about many years ago in his book, Liberal Fascism.

00:34:27.000 Jonah Goldberg, who hates Donald Trump, who's incredibly brilliant, and I think he's just wrong on a lot of things, but I give people credit when they get things correctly.

00:34:37.000 And Jonah Goldberg really hit it perfectly in his book, Liberal Fascism, and he was crucified for what he said.

00:34:46.000 Jonah Goldberg predicted that liberals will eventually become fascists.

00:34:51.000 They will not be able to resist themselves because that's where it always ends up.

00:34:57.000 And his biggest argument was Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin.

00:35:01.000 You can't argue for total control over a society and then also think that once you have that control over society, you're not going to abuse that control over society.

00:35:11.000 And Jonah Goldberg, again, is so wrong on Trump. 0.98

00:35:14.000 And he's just, he's actually been a jerk to me on Twitter, but I'm not going to actually respond with insults. 0.92

00:35:20.000 I'm actually going to respond to compliments of where he's right because he's a very smart individual when it comes to this. 0.96

00:35:26.000 He argues that conservatism is rooted in gratitude.

00:35:30.000 He's right.

00:35:31.000 If you do not have gratitude for something and you have ingratitude, then you want to destroy that something around you.

00:35:38.000 So this is inevitable for the New York Times: is that the left have now become the fascists that they claim to hate.

00:35:44.000 They stamp out opposition opinion.

00:35:46.000 They bully people in the streets.

00:35:48.000 We have gone through piece by piece of the human cost of the digital annihilation culture, of the assassination culture that exists in the American left about how they want to boycott and destroy anyone with differing or dissenting opinion.

00:36:01.000 And you see this with Barry Weiss in this micro example at the New York Times.

00:36:06.000 Weiss finishes by saying, why edit something challenging to our readers or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically closer, where we can assure ourselves of job security and clicks by publishing our 4,000th ah-ed, arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world.

00:36:23.000 And so self-censorship has become the norm.

00:36:26.000 Good for you, Barry Weiss.

00:36:27.000 She's a true liberal.

00:36:29.000 She's a true free speech, free thought liberal.

00:36:32.000 I can see why leftists hate her. 0.78

00:36:34.000 I can see why radical ideologues that quite honestly are miserable themselves want to destroy people like her. 0.57

00:36:42.000 And Tom Cotton and anyone else.

00:36:44.000 And Tom Cotton exposed all this, by the way.

00:36:46.000 Tom Cotton is the reason why Barry Weiss is basically has resigned at the New York Times.

00:36:51.000 It's basically because of Tom Cotton and the entire incident around that.

00:36:55.000 And her editor resigned because of it.

00:36:56.000 Now she, of course, leaves the New York Times.

00:36:59.000 The New York Times is now Pravda.

00:37:02.000 The New York Times is basically Soviet-published propaganda.

00:37:06.000 They're a pullet bureau. 0.53

00:37:07.000 They're no different.

00:37:08.000 And Barry Weiss has exposed their anti-Semitism, their Jew hatred, and the propaganda mill that the New York Times has become.

00:37:16.000 And yet they're still the paper of record.

00:37:17.000 They have record amounts of subscribers.

00:37:19.000 They're in record amounts of classrooms.

00:37:21.000 They get push notifications through Apple News.

00:37:24.000 They have record amounts of traffic and huge amounts of influence through all multimedia channels.

00:37:29.000 And here's one of the big problems: conservatives continue to give comment and give credence to the New York Times.

00:37:40.000 They just do.

00:37:42.000 And by the way, I refused to give comment to the New York Times when they did a story on me during the shutdowns of the Chinese coronavirus.

00:37:49.000 I will say this, though.

00:37:50.000 I am happy to use their silly little list on authors to my advantage because they hate me so much.

00:37:56.000 The fact that I became a New York Times best-selling author, I'm happy to advocate and be proud of.

00:38:02.000 Just have to say, that's kind of cool.

00:38:03.000 To be a New York Times best-selling author, considering how awful they are, I just think it all kind of comes full circle there.

00:38:09.000 Because they wanted at every part of them to keep me off the list, every single part of them.

00:38:13.000 And we actually made number four on the New York Times bestseller list, MAGA Doctrine, and they did write a review.

00:38:18.000 Might have been number three, number three, number four.

00:38:20.000 We have to check that out.

00:38:22.000 So to close it all together, when you analyze the news cycle and you tell your friends and you tell your liberal relatives, well, if we do this, more things are going to happen.

00:38:32.000 They say, oh, that's a slippery slope.

00:38:33.000 That's dismissive.

00:38:34.000 No, it's evidence-based.

00:38:37.000 You can see very clearly that we have confirmation and that we have a track record of Democrats, Marxists, liberal fascists that are using the power that they have assumed to silence, to ridicule, and to punish anyone that might disagree with them.

00:38:58.000 They're going to try to take our weapons.

00:39:00.000 They're going to try to take our speech.

00:39:01.000 They're going to try to take our property.

00:39:03.000 If you understand the left and by listening to this program, you absolutely will.

00:39:08.000 You'll have a better and more complete understanding of how to defeat them.

00:39:12.000 And with that, save our country.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 15, 2020

The Radical Regressive Left

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