00:00:09.000Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, I asked the question, is slippery slope a logical fallacy?
00:00:14.000We dive into that and the recent controversy at the New York Times.
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00:01:30.000I'm sure you've heard that phrase before.
00:01:33.000Slippery slope is oftentimes used in arguments when someone says, because of one thing, it's going to lead inevitably to a chain reaction of things in the future.
00:01:46.000I used to use slippery slope as an argument in eighth grade and throughout high school.
00:01:50.000And then a teacher who taught logic at our high school and was a very nice individual pointed out correctly, at least at the time, that a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy.
00:02:04.000So if you look up slippery slope argument in your search engine, it will go through the types of logical fallacies that there are.
00:03:46.000This was coined by Jacob E. Van Fleet, who said, quote, precisely because we can never know if a whole series of events and or a certain result is determined to follow one event or action in particular.
00:03:58.000This is actually wrong, especially when you're dealing with the left.
00:04:04.000And so I'm not saying that the entire idea of a slippery slope argument is inherently a logical fallacy.
00:04:10.000I am, however, telling you I have a lot of problems with totally rejecting the thought process behind dismissing the slippery slope because we have so many pieces of evidence around a slippery slope or as a domino effect right here in our country.
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00:06:51.000To say that his readings are difficult to understand would be the understatement of the century.
00:06:58.000He writes in highly complex, very hard to compute language.
00:07:05.000And German to English translation is difficult on even a good day.
00:07:09.000It's incredibly difficult with George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.
00:07:16.000However, Hegel wrote a book that might be one of the most important pieces of philosophy since Plato or Aristotle that might actually be solely responsible for both Nazi Germany and USSR.
00:07:32.000It is called the Phenomenology of Spirit.
00:07:39.000Hegel described this piece of work as an exposition of the coming to be of knowledge.
00:07:45.000I have attempted to try and read this, and I have failed.
00:07:49.000I have actually really good friends who have masters and doctorates in philosophy, and I have asked them to help me learn Hegel and guide me through it.
00:08:03.000And so, this Hegel came after Kant, and we can get into more philosophy, and I know a lot of you enjoy it when I go into it.
00:08:10.000The reason I'm mentioning it, though, is that Hegel developed something that he did not even coin this term himself, but it is widely known as the Hegelian dialectic.
00:08:20.000The Hegelian dialectic, in some ways, is almost like a march madness bracket of the constant forward push of human civilization.
00:08:30.000Without getting too far into the weeds here, the Hegelian dialectic, if applied to modern day, explains the radical left more so than any other piece of philosophy.
00:08:42.000And quite honestly, Hegel might be one of the most consequential philosophers in world history.
00:08:47.000And the irony and the tragedy is that Hegel himself would not approve of the application of his philosophy.
00:08:55.000Hegel was a Christian, he was a believer in God.
00:08:58.000Hegel himself would be saddened about how his work was corrupted and manipulated.
00:09:05.000And if you look at Nietzsche, he himself would say he was mostly inspired by Hegel.
00:09:12.000Not to mention Rousseau and so many thinkers that came in the mid-1800s that developed the modern left as we know it today, especially the European left that took over the entire continent in the mid-1930s.
00:09:27.000And so now consider this article from the Atlantic's Adam Harris, who says this: First comes police reform, then comes everything else.
00:09:35.000Americans took to the streets to protest police brutality, but the need for systemic reform runs much deeper.
00:09:41.000So if you use the Hegelian dialectic, you have a thesis and an antithesis or an antithesis, depending on how you pronounce the word.
00:09:48.000And the way the Hegelian dialectic essentially works is then a synthesis comes out of the thesis and the antithesis or the antithesis, and the synthesis is a sum of both parts.
00:10:00.000Very complex, very hard to understand.
00:10:02.000However, let me try to explain it for you.
00:10:05.000Essentially, it is the argument that humans and civilizations are going to try to continue on this onward trajectory, that the slippery slope is not a fallacy, it's actually factually inevitable.
00:10:18.000That especially when you're dealing with the left and how they try to continue to almost progress us off a cliff, it is not unfair to say that they want to abolish the police so they can also abolish civil society.
00:10:33.000Now, using the idea that the slippery slope is a fallacy would dismiss this altogether.
00:10:41.000I no longer believe that the slippery slope is a fallacy.
00:11:21.000We're happy with that particular victory.
00:11:23.000We have protected your right to worship.
00:11:26.000Whereas the left, they will not be happy with that.
00:11:28.000The left wants to instead abolish religion altogether or to try to continue and relentlessly have a motivation that is pathological in nature to destroy modern society.
00:11:40.000And so this Atlantic article, I think, articulates this better than any other piece of writing that I have seen recently, where they admit that police reform is nothing more than a gateway drug to a leftist totalitarian takeover of American society.
00:11:57.000So again, the title is first comes police reform, then comes everything else.
00:12:04.000So Adam Harris is saying, let's just get police reform, then we can fundamentally destroy our civil society.
00:12:10.000He continues by saying, people are on the streets this summer over the murder of George Floyd, but the current racial reckoning in America goes far beyond lethal policing.
00:12:19.000People are in the streets because black students are five times more likely than white students to attend highly segregated schools.
00:12:25.000Because black unemployment is regularly twice the white unemployment rate because racist housing policies have locked black families into unequal neighborhoods and out of the prospect of building wealth.
00:12:36.000But to go back, black students are five more times likely than white students to attend highly segregated schools.
00:13:06.000They want black-only content creators at YouTube.
00:13:08.000Adam Harris links to an article from the Economic Policy Institute on explaining what it means, saying that black individuals are more likely to go to black-only schools.
00:13:42.000The entire idea was that black people should be given preference or segregated within their newly founded country.
00:13:50.000Adam Harris continued by just writing more rubbish, by saying this.
00:13:54.000White Americans have stolen black Americans' land.
00:13:57.000They have stolen their property, stated as if it's just a fact.
00:14:00.000And so then he links to a article that's written by The Atlantic from September 2019 called The Great Land Robbery, the shameful story of how one million black families have been ripped from their farms.
00:14:13.000It's a very questionable argument historically, and I reject the premise that white people, as generalized as every single white person in the country, have stolen every single black person's piece of land.
00:14:28.000Incredibly racist, actually, to say it.
00:14:30.000So Adam Harris says, in some places, there's a 20-year life expectancy gap between white and black people.
00:14:36.000Okay, let's just, all these discrepancies can be explained not by race, not by color, instead, by were you raised by a two-parent household?
00:14:54.000You read every single one of these grievance, oppression Olympic type articles written by the left, they time and time again blame racism as the single, only, and the contributing factor as to why black people have fallen behind in America.
00:15:15.000I never say that racism does not exist.
00:15:17.000I do say, though, it is not even close to the predominant reason or even a major reason at all as to why black Americans are not doing well.
00:15:28.000The major reason is the destruction of the American family and the Great Society Act passed by Lyndon Baines Johnson, where women married the government instead of marrying men.
00:15:38.000By marrying the government, they became addicted to government programs where white liberals came in with government subsidies and subsidized single motherhood and then sent children to failing public schools run by public sector teacher unions.
00:15:54.000You repeat this cycle over a couple decades, you all of a sudden have a fatherlessness rate upwards of 77% in the black community, according to the Washington Examiner.
00:16:07.000And so the left looks at all of these reforms and all of these conversations as the beginning of a much broader and diabolical agenda to destroy our country.
00:16:19.000And so, yes, when I say that they first want to abolish the police, then they want to come from everything else, I'm actually not engaging in a logical fallacy.
00:16:30.000I'm reading off the title of the article on The Atlantic.
00:16:34.000And so this is a very important point because the left wants to continue to endlessly progress our society into chaos.
00:16:44.000They want to create disunity where there is order, and where there is chaos, they want to continue that chaos.
00:16:51.000They want to do this for a couple reasons.
00:16:53.000When there is chaos, there's a license to control people.
00:16:56.000Where there is chaos, politicians and the ruling class elite that otherwise might not have been very important in the general conversation or the contribution of decision-making all of a sudden become incredibly important.
00:17:10.000Also, when there is chaos, the people who are actually suffering have no choice but to appeal to a higher ruling class authority.
00:17:20.000Please save me, Maxine Waters, because I can barely get by.
00:17:24.000It creates the leftist ruling class almost in a messianic state where they are so important, they almost become semi-deities on earth, which in reality is one of the primary objectives of the American left.
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00:18:56.000And so I take issue with anyone who says that they're going to stop.
00:19:01.000There is zero evidence at all that the left has ever stopped, that they've ever been satisfied with just making sure that abortion is safe, legal, and rare.
00:19:13.000Instead, there's evidence to show that they want abortion to be ubiquitous and glamorized with the shout your abortion movement.
00:19:21.000There is no evidence to show that once the left bans semi-automatic weapons, that they're not going to want to go after handguns, which they have done all across the country.
00:19:32.000The left is a relentless force to try to debase and destroy everything that we care about in our country.
00:19:39.000And so to understand the left is to understand the thinkers that built the philosophy around this insidious and dangerous thought process.
00:20:24.000The Declaration of Independence and previously by John Locke.
00:20:28.000But the left, first of all, they do not believe in God.
00:20:30.000And if they do, it's a different type of relationship with God.
00:20:34.000But most of them do not believe in God, especially the radical fundamentalist ideologues.
00:20:39.000So therefore, if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in absolute truth, you're going to try to find that truth by designing the country or the world or public policy towards a utopian model.
00:20:54.000The left believes that these institutions are corrupt because they are part of hierarchies, hierarchies of power and hierarchies of oppression.
00:21:07.000It's a whole nother conversation that we can have about how hierarchies are natural, hierarchies are necessary, hierarchies are healthy, and hierarchies are inevitable.
00:21:17.000The issue is that the left completely and totally rejects that hierarchies are ever needed at all.
00:21:23.000We've talked about this at length here on the Charlie Kirk show about how Jean-Jacques Rousseau, he said, I value the infant over the adult, the primitive over the civilized.
00:21:35.000The root of their argument is that there is systemic oppression in Western society.
00:21:41.000There is oppression in private property.
00:21:46.000There is oppression in individuals having the right to speak.
00:21:51.000There is oppression in absolute truth.
00:21:54.000And so when you think about it, a lot of what the left is trying to create is a return back to indigenous roots, a return away from private property, but to collective ownership.
00:22:09.000To go back away almost to Incan socialism.
00:22:12.000And there is evidence that in Peru, the Incan Empire, they lived in a very communal socialistic state.
00:22:21.000They actually disappeared and or starved off the face of the earth.
00:22:26.000But when you have this conversation of my truth, your truth, it's really an attack on God and his hierarchy and an exclusive claim of truth.
00:22:36.000So I read this article from The Atlantic, and it proves it perfectly.
00:22:40.000First comes police reform, then comes everything else.
00:22:44.000So they begin with George Floyd and the evil murder of George Floyd, which then becomes an excuse to destroy Mount Rushmore.
00:22:54.000So you have an evil cop in Minneapolis, and then you go destroy a monument where over 3 million people visit every single year and has become one of the incredible symbols of the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:23:13.000And now you see the direction that the left is going to try to create a tribal, primitive America, not an industrialized, Western, egalitarian America around natural rights, but instead almost try to return us back to 2nd century BC, where people were quite indigenous.
00:23:33.000And I'm not saying that it's necessarily derogatory, but it is inherently regressive.
00:25:07.000So what reparations do I have to pay, for example, for exactly?
00:25:11.000What do I have to apologize for our nation's history?
00:25:15.000By the way, the Reconstruction agenda that Jamal Brown mentions is in reference to the post-Civil War Reconstruction era, 40 acres and a mule idea.
00:25:25.000This is the new Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, by the way.
00:25:28.000He is proposing truly radical, progressive ideas.
00:25:33.000But this isn't reform in keeping with nature and of nature's God.
00:26:22.000Maybe some things are actually the way they should be.
00:26:25.000In fact, in some ways, we have things better than we could ever possibly realize as far as equality under the law, expression, freedom of consciousness and of thought.
00:26:39.000And by the way, this is why Martin Luther King Jr.'s reforms on civil rights were so good.
00:26:45.000Because he called for all men being equal, judging one by the content of their character, which is a biblical idea.
00:26:52.000And it goes back to the Bible verse that inspired the foundation of Western society that you are made in the image of God, Galatians 3.28, where it says, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
00:27:11.000BLM is a regression movement, not a progressive movement.
00:29:07.000And I should really define what I mean more by the left.
00:29:09.000I mean people that believe in the fundamental transformation and destabilization of our country.
00:29:16.000People like Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Kazi-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and also Nancy Pelosi, who protects for them.
00:29:23.000We as conservatives have to stand for what is righteous, what is true, and what is good in opposition to the radicals.
00:29:31.000And so I see very clearly where this is headed.
00:29:34.000As BLM Inc. is trying to fundamentally destroy the fabric of our country, they're trying to be arsonists for America.
00:29:42.000We have to stand firm against their diabolical agenda because one small inch that we give the left, they're going to take a mile.
00:29:51.000That is why we went so firm against Senator Mike Braun.
00:29:55.000That is why when we stood up against Republican Senator Mike Braun and we saw that he was trying to appease the left through qualified immunity police reform and he said a good thing about BLM Inc. and he later sent out a press release that seems like he reversed course.
00:30:14.000And I actually think that is a really good teaching moment for us conservatives because people say, well, Charlie, what can I do?
00:30:21.000Give clear, easy to understand, impossible to screw up instructions to Republican lawmakers.
00:31:01.000It is, in fact, factual, especially dealing with an entire political movement that is rooted in the endless, relentless, and committed destabilization of what is good, what is true, and what is righteous in our beautiful country.
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00:32:17.000Now, as evidence of what I just said previously, Barry Weiss, who is one of the few conservative-leaning writers at the New York Times, and she's really just an old school liberal, not a leftist in an illiberal newsroom, she dropped a bomb on the failing New York Times.
00:32:32.000So she basically resigned recently in the last 24 to 48 hours, and she went down in a blaze of incredible glory.
00:32:39.000And I want to have her on the podcast, and we're trying to actually get her on the Charlie Kirk show to help her promote her book.
00:32:44.000I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but we'll see.
00:32:47.000So she read, this is part of her stunning and scathing rebuke of the New York Times.
00:32:51.000It said, quote, my own forays into wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views.
00:32:58.000They have called me a Nazi and a racist.
00:33:01.000I've learned to brush off comments about how I'm, quote, writing about the Jews things again.
00:33:24.000It's obviously an open, hostile environment for conservatives at the New York Times.
00:33:29.000But she continues by saying, Part of me wishes I could stay there.
00:33:32.000Part of me wishes I could say that my experience was unique.
00:33:34.000But the truth is that intellectual curiosity, let alone risk-taking, is now a liability at the New York Times.
00:33:40.000And it's becoming a liability all across America.
00:33:43.000It starts on college campuses and ends up in the halls of Congress and in the boardrooms of places like New York Times.
00:33:48.000What happens on campuses will happen in the halls of Congress and in American culture.
00:33:53.000I say this all the time at Turning Point USA.
00:33:55.000I say that the leading indicator is what happens on campuses.
00:33:58.000So we allow this virus to spread, and we once thought what was happening on our college campuses would be like Chernobyl, just a nuclear spill dump or a waste dump, when in reality it was a pathogen.
00:34:16.000And it has spread to newsrooms all across the country.
00:34:20.000And this is really what Jonah Goldberg talked about many years ago in his book, Liberal Fascism.
00:34:27.000Jonah Goldberg, who hates Donald Trump, who's incredibly brilliant, and I think he's just wrong on a lot of things, but I give people credit when they get things correctly.
00:34:37.000And Jonah Goldberg really hit it perfectly in his book, Liberal Fascism, and he was crucified for what he said.
00:34:46.000Jonah Goldberg predicted that liberals will eventually become fascists.
00:34:51.000They will not be able to resist themselves because that's where it always ends up.
00:34:57.000And his biggest argument was Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin.
00:35:01.000You can't argue for total control over a society and then also think that once you have that control over society, you're not going to abuse that control over society.
00:35:11.000And Jonah Goldberg, again, is so wrong on Trump.
00:35:14.000And he's just, he's actually been a jerk to me on Twitter, but I'm not going to actually respond with insults.
00:35:20.000I'm actually going to respond to compliments of where he's right because he's a very smart individual when it comes to this.
00:35:26.000He argues that conservatism is rooted in gratitude.
00:35:48.000We have gone through piece by piece of the human cost of the digital annihilation culture, of the assassination culture that exists in the American left about how they want to boycott and destroy anyone with differing or dissenting opinion.
00:36:01.000And you see this with Barry Weiss in this micro example at the New York Times.
00:36:06.000Weiss finishes by saying, why edit something challenging to our readers or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically closer, where we can assure ourselves of job security and clicks by publishing our 4,000th ah-ed, arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world.
00:36:23.000And so self-censorship has become the norm.
00:37:42.000And by the way, I refused to give comment to the New York Times when they did a story on me during the shutdowns of the Chinese coronavirus.
00:38:22.000So to close it all together, when you analyze the news cycle and you tell your friends and you tell your liberal relatives, well, if we do this, more things are going to happen.
00:38:32.000They say, oh, that's a slippery slope.
00:38:37.000You can see very clearly that we have confirmation and that we have a track record of Democrats, Marxists, liberal fascists that are using the power that they have assumed to silence, to ridicule, and to punish anyone that might disagree with them.
00:38:58.000They're going to try to take our weapons.
00:39:00.000They're going to try to take our speech.
00:39:01.000They're going to try to take our property.
00:39:03.000If you understand the left and by listening to this program, you absolutely will.
00:39:08.000You'll have a better and more complete understanding of how to defeat them.