In this episode, we talk to someone who knows Clarence Thomas very well, as Clarence Thomas is under attack, and we reflect on our conversation with Tucker Carlson about race and race in America. We also hear from Chris Hoare, of Satellite Phone Store, about the importance of having a satellite phone in a disaster.
00:00:00.000Hey everybody, we talk to someone who knows Clarence Thomas very well as Clarence Thomas is under attack and we reflect on our RFK Jr. discussion.
00:00:08.000If you guys haven't listened to it yet, you should.
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00:03:00.000Well, Charlie, what we really stand for is making sure that people have communications no matter what is going on in any disaster, in any emergency, when the cell towers are down, when the power is out, your cell phone's not going to work.
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00:03:21.000If you're in the middle of the ocean, you're in the middle of the desert, you're in the middle of downtown Denver where my cell phone doesn't work that well.
00:03:27.000You know, your satellite phone is always going to work because it communicates directly with the satellites in the sky.
00:03:33.000And Charlie, these phones used to cost like $5,000, $10,000, and the price has come down a little bit over the last 20 years.
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00:03:49.000If Someone is in a disaster, whether it's a hurricane or a terrorist attack, or they're just off-road and they have no cell service and they have an accident when they're hiking.
00:04:16.000And it wasn't legal last time I tried it, but I did turn on my phone at 30,000 feet and I got a connection.
00:04:23.000And, you know, so I shut it off at that point.
00:04:26.000But look, if you think back to 9-11 and things like that, you know, some people could get cell phone calls out when they were very close to the ground on that horrible day.
00:04:34.000But if someone had a sat phone in one of those planes, it might have made a difference.
00:04:37.000I don't know, Charlie, but it certainly gives you an option and an alternative.
00:04:41.000Yeah, so in years past, I've tried to get a satellite phone, and the process was convoluted and difficult.
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00:07:33.000So your customers, they're coming in, SAT 123.
00:07:36.000What are they telling you about what they want most right now?
00:07:39.000What are you hearing from the audience?
00:07:42.000Well, what I'm hearing a lot of is this worry over and concerns over privacy.
00:07:46.000Obviously, they just renewed the Pfizer Act.
00:07:48.000The government can just kind of basically go into your phone and search it without a warrant, and that's your cell phone.
00:07:52.000But a satellite phone makes all of that a lot more difficult.
00:07:55.000You know, there's no camera on these phones, so you can't be watched.
00:07:58.000You know, they really do add a big layer of security that you don't get on a cell phone.
00:08:03.000So, privacy is basically the number one thing.
00:08:06.000And then, this worry about what's going to happen if the government decides, you know what, we have this threat and we're just going to shut down the cell networks for now for your own protection.
00:08:15.000As that's what happens in wartime, right?
00:08:18.000They limit the press and they limit your personal freedoms.
00:08:21.000And so, this is a way to fight back against that.
00:08:23.000And that's what people are most concerned about right now.
00:08:26.000So, you mentioned some of the promotional stuff.
00:08:28.000What is the cost structure, including monthly fees and minutes and texts?
00:08:34.000So, basically, you're paying two months up front, and then that's it.
00:08:38.000And then you're going to after two months, you're just going to be billed the $95.99 a month.
00:08:44.000If you go over, you know, you will be billed a little more.
00:08:47.000But again, with these rollover minutes, most people are not going over their minutes because they're not using these phones every day, right?
00:08:53.000I mean, yeah, you should take this phone with you when you go hiking, when you go skiing or snowboarding or whatever it is.
00:08:58.000You're going hunting, fishing, you know, that's when you're going to have it with you.
00:09:02.000But, you know, as long as nothing happens, you won't need to use it.
00:09:05.000But if something does happen, it will absolutely get you out of a jam.
00:09:13.000Are there any stories that have you concerned?
00:09:14.000We know the Chinese are hacking our grid and our information system.
00:09:18.000What are you seeing out there that our audience should be aware of?
00:09:21.000Well, you know, we work with a lot of the big utility companies, and what they're seeing is that multiple drone sightings around these power stations.
00:09:30.000They're seeing outages they can't explain.
00:09:32.000You know, and all of this affects, of course, everyday electricity supply, but it affects the cell towers as well.
00:09:38.000You know, so cybersecurity is a massive problem.
00:09:42.000And, you know, clearly the cell phone networks are a huge target for whether it's Iran or China or Russia, whatever it is, because they know if they take out a cell phone network, as happened in Australia recently, one of Optus, the number two carrier there, took out that their network was taken down, and they are not giving any details about that.
00:10:00.000But certainly, it seems like that might have been some bad actors.
00:10:04.000But half the country was without cell phone service for up to three days.
00:10:08.000Now, people get panicked when they leave their cell phone at home.
00:10:11.000Imagine not having that phone or being able to communicate for three days.
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00:10:46.000Just closing thoughts, Chris, about 45 seconds remaining.
00:10:49.000Look, you know, as with all prepping, you know, the way it works is you get prepared before something happens, not when it's happening or afterwards.
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00:18:16.000Joining us now is Mark Pauletta, a senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America and also a personal friend of Justice Thomas.
00:18:25.000There is a New York Times article, which is, it actually ties beautifully to a story that I've been wanting to hit for a couple weeks now, which is just how the Senate is treating Clarence Thomas and Leonard Leo.
00:18:36.000Clarence Thomas threatened to resign over salary concerns in 2000.
00:18:40.000The justice set off a scramble by a lawmaker to find a way to raise his pay.
00:18:52.000Charlie, it's just, thanks for having me on.
00:18:54.000It's just the nonstop for 40 years attack on Justice Thomas, who is a good friend of mine, a dear friend of mine, our greatest justice, our greatest living American.
00:19:05.000And in fact, ProPublica first came out with this garbage a couple days ago, where they had this story that allegedly Clarence Thomas had had a conversation with a congressman.
00:19:15.000And in the ProPublica story, they don't even say that Clarence Thomas threatened to resign or raise concerns over his pay.
00:19:22.000It was that the congressman inferred it from their conversation.
00:20:38.000And it's just a crazy narrative that they want to drive.
00:20:44.000This narrative was that Justice Thomas complained about his pay, threatened to resign, and then people ran around trying to make him happy.
00:21:21.000I've been doing this for more than 30 years in terms of working with Justice Thomas to defend his reputation or working on my own to defend Justice Thomas's reputation.
00:22:28.000I've been doing, like I said, when we went through the confirmation and the cartoons or the news coverage of him is just, you know, he dares to have his own views and he doesn't bend.
00:22:42.000And they tried to destroy him in 1991.
00:22:44.000So it's one of those things, you know, the left, you know, it was an existential threat, really in part, right, to the liberal black leadership, right?
00:22:52.000And if you look at it, Charlie, this is what gets me so, and I've testified to this, gets me so upset on almost every single issue from affirmative action to abortion to voter ID to even abortion.
00:23:05.000You know, Black Americans are much more in line with Clarence Thomas, right, than they are with the liberal black leadership.
00:23:12.000So they need to destroy him because he's a threat.
00:23:16.000And the black leadership, the liberal black leadership gets all their funding, right, from white progressive groups.
00:23:22.000So they push all these issues that are not, in fact, what black Americans, you know, the great majority of them believe.
00:23:30.000So that's the, you know, the game here, in my view.
00:23:35.000And so, you know, as justice Thomas said actually, during his confirmation right, he was overwhelmingly supported, right during his confirmation, by by the American people okay, in 1991, including black Americans.
00:24:15.000Okay, in Pinpoint Georgia, on the swamps on the marsh of of southern Georgia um, and he moves in with his grandfather because his mom couldn't take care of him.
00:24:26.000Right, his grandfather is born in 1907 in the Deep South uh, and raises him and sends him to a Catholic school, and it changes his life, both his grandfather and and the nuns at this Catholic school.
00:25:03.000And you know what I do think that's racist why?
00:25:06.000Because a liberal judge named judge Reinhart, on the ninth circuit, had a case before him.
00:25:11.000Right, uh called it was the same-sex marriage case, same-sex ban uh case under the California constitution, and his wife was the head of the ACLU chapter in southern California.
00:25:21.000Right, she was very vocal against this.
00:25:24.000This uh, this uh constitutional initiative in California.
00:25:28.000Her organization filed two briefs in the court below that case goes up to judge Reinhart and guess what?
00:27:51.000Who has led the way for 30 years on those cases where he was writing dissents, including in the Casey case back on abortion at Rutter on affirmative action?
00:28:06.000He has laid out a body of work that the justices, the current justices, the majority of the originalist, are using to change the face of American jurisprudence.
00:28:16.000And it all goes back to Clarence Thomas.
00:28:18.000And yet, going back to your thing, there are cartoons of him shining Justice Scalia's shoes, right?
00:28:26.000That he was, you know, a puppet of Justice Scalia, the most racist stuff you can imagine, right?
00:28:32.000And the left thinks this is acceptable.
00:29:01.000And I thought that was particularly despicable, right?
00:29:04.000To really go after Ginny Thomas and target her starting in 2022, right?
00:29:09.000And this is the Jane Mayer, Jane Mayer from the New Yorker, who wrote a book actually called Strange Justice back in the early 90s, where she has all of these sentences in there that he is not smart, relying on white judges, relying on his wife, relying on his law clerks.
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00:30:54.000And then he said his favorite Supreme Court justice is Earl Warren, someone who protected and modernized the modern administrative state and the deep state, who I believe killed his uncle as well, which is really a bizarre thing that he would be defending the justice that actually made the administrative state permanent and possible.
00:31:12.000So, Mark, your thoughts on RFK Jr.'s inability to name a justice.
00:31:20.000I think he's a classic liberal who thinks that the Supreme Court is a policy-making, you know, court organization, a super legislature, if you will.
00:31:31.000Doesn't want to get the left mad because they want somebody like that, like Earl Warren.
00:31:37.000The fact that he says it's Earl Warren just tells you everything you need to know about the type of justice he's doing.
00:31:49.000Yeah, he was when I say an activist judge, he thought that the court should make policies in terms of the laws or the Constitution to stretch them to what he thought was best.
00:32:01.000He's unelected, he's appointed, he's supposed to interpret the Constitution.
00:32:04.000So, you know, the 14th Amendment says you cannot, you know, discriminate on race.
00:32:09.000But he thinks, right, in his, and now this came a little bit later in that type of case, but he thought that it should be, I'm going to, I'm going to be a policymaker as a judge, as a justice.
00:32:23.000We want justices to interpret the Constitution, to apply it, to let the democratic process, you know, play out.
00:32:30.000And then, you know, like the Second Amendment, right?
00:32:33.000Liberal justices will say, oh, we're fine with you restricting these rights on Americans when the Constitution says X.
00:32:42.000So that's the type of, it's a policymaker that doesn't view his role as applying the Constitution or the law at issue.
00:33:46.000You think that one of the reasons why RFK Jr. didn't answer my question or dodged it is because he's afraid that it would reveal that he wants somebody more in the sotomayor tradition.
00:33:58.000And by the way, I pick presidents primarily on who they're going to put on the Supreme Court.
00:34:10.000Yeah, in 2016, I think the main reason President Trump was elected in part was his list that you've pointed out.
00:34:17.000It showed the American people what he was going to do.
00:34:20.000Late breakers went for Trump based on the Supreme Court.
00:34:22.000He knows that a lot of the people he's trying to appeal to, which is not the hard left, that is Bobby Kennedy or Robert F. Kennedy, are going to be turned off if he's talking about left-wing judges.
00:34:32.000And so I do think it's critically important.
00:34:34.000It's the last line of defense in our republic is the Supreme Court.
00:34:38.000It's a wonderful, It's a honest organization, unlike a lot of these other, like the legislature today.
00:35:27.000From the people that work in the janitorial positions in the Supreme Court to his fellow justices, they all think Clarence Thomas is a class act and they love him.