The Charlie Kirk Show - November 15, 2023


The Right To Remain Anonymous and The War on White People


Episode Stats


Length

34 minutes

Words per minute

165.80646

Word count

5,654

Sentence count

447

Harmful content

Misogyny

15

sentences flagged

Toxicity

34

sentences flagged

Hate speech

27

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Breitbart's Alana Bakari joins us as we talk about Nikki Haley's call for an end to online anonymity and the war on white people in Las Vegas. She and Citizen Kane discuss why they don't think this is a good idea.

Transcript

Transcripts from "The Charlie Kirk Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Citizen Kane joins us as we talk about the right for anonymous speech.
00:00:04.000 Alam Bakari joins us as well as we continue that topic and the war on white people continues.
00:00:10.000 A tragic story out of Las Vegas.
00:00:11.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:14.000 Subscribe to our podcast.
00:00:16.000 Open up your podcast app and type in Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:19.000 That's your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:23.000 Make sure you're subscribed.
00:00:24.000 Get involved with TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.
00:00:27.000 That's tpusa.com.
00:00:29.000 Start a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com.
00:00:33.000 Email me as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:36.000 That's freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:38.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:39.000 Here we go.
00:00:41.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:42.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:44.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:48.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:51.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:52.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:53.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:02.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:10.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:14.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com.
00:01:22.000 Joining us now is Alam Bakari, senior tech reporter at Breitbart.com.
00:01:28.000 Alam, thank you so much for joining the program.
00:01:31.000 There is this question about anonymous online speech.
00:01:34.000 Nikki Haley says that we should find the identity of all online.
00:01:39.000 Basically, government-sponsored doxing.
00:01:42.000 What are your thoughts?
00:01:43.000 Yep.
00:01:44.000 Well, there could be no greater gift to cancel culture than ending online anonymity.
00:01:49.000 It's extraordinary that this proposal came from a Republican candidate of all things.
00:01:55.000 But think about what Nikki Haley is saying.
00:01:58.000 You know, the founders of America used anonymity when they were writing the Federalist Papers.
00:02:02.000 Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Voltaire used anonymity when he was critiquing the regime in France in the 1700s.
00:02:12.000 You know, anonymity has been used by dissidents throughout history.
00:02:16.000 So for, you know, Nikki Haley to come out and say she supports ending it online, she's essentially saying she wants no dissidents to the present system to be able to have free speech.
00:02:26.000 She wants them to be open to doxing, open to having their lives ruined by journalists whenever they challenge official narratives.
00:02:33.000 That's the ultimate result.
00:02:35.000 That would be the ultimate result of ending on anonymity.
00:02:39.000 What do you think is the motivating impulse here?
00:02:43.000 Why would somebody say something like that?
00:02:46.000 Is it because she's really bothered by trolls that are in her comments and she wants to make them pay? 0.96
00:02:54.000 I mean, why would somebody say something like this?
00:02:57.000 Well, that's what she says.
00:02:59.000 If you look at the interview, she said, well, this is all about civility.
00:03:02.000 We need more civility.
00:03:03.000 And if you end online anonymity, if you make people use their real names online, which is ironic because Nikki Haley doesn't use her real name, then there'll be more civility.
00:03:13.000 But, you know, you think a little deeper about what that means.
00:03:16.000 She says people will be more civil.
00:03:18.000 What she means is people will be more civil because when they have their real names, they're afraid of the consequences to their reputation.
00:03:25.000 But who's imposing consequences on speech in the modern era?
00:03:28.000 It's mainstream media organizations.
00:03:31.000 It's NGOs.
00:03:33.000 It's activist organizations who try and get your bank account canceled if you express the wrong political opinion.
00:03:39.000 Those are the institutions and the people who are imposing consequences on speech today.
00:03:45.000 And by ending online anonymity.
00:03:47.000 Nikki Haley is a very smart candidate. 1.00
00:03:49.000 She's a very smart politician. 1.00
00:03:50.000 I'm sure she knows this.
00:03:52.000 I'm sure she knows what will happen if you end online anonymity.
00:03:56.000 So when she says this is all about civility, I just don't believe her.
00:03:59.000 I think she's an establishment candidate, and I think she wants the establishment to have more power. 1.00
00:04:03.000 And she knows online anonymity is this huge forum that allows dissidents to critique the present establishment, the present status quo.
00:04:13.000 It's just another reminder that Nikki Haley, perhaps more than any other Republican candidate, is a candidate off the status quo.
00:04:20.000 So, some, not all, of our listeners have emailed us and they said, Look, I don't like Nikki Haley, but I don't understand why this is such a bad idea.
00:04:28.000 So, let's not attack the question.
00:04:30.000 We could attack Nikki Haley.
00:04:31.000 Let's explain for people that might not be as well-versed in internet culture how important and vibrant the dissident Anon culture has been over the last six or seven years, especially with the rise of Donald Trump.
00:04:49.000 We know that there are consequences, canceling, smear, and slandering that awaits, but talk about the community of creators, memes, images, videos, articles.
00:05:03.000 This Bronze Age guy who is obviously very, very popular, who wants to remain anonymous, citizen free press, citizen Kane.
00:05:11.000 Educate our audience on this that might not quite see it the way we do yet.
00:05:16.000 Yeah, I can see how some people might see what Nikki Haley says as attractive because there are anonymous trolls on the internet who do nothing but abuse and harass people. 1.00
00:05:29.000 But there's also, as you said, this huge vibrant culture of political speech that couldn't exist without online anonymity, political speech on the right, especially.
00:05:37.000 You have to remember that not everyone, not everyone can be a professional political activist, especially if you're on the right wing.
00:05:44.000 The left can afford to pay thousands and thousands of professional activists.
00:05:48.000 But if you're a conservative, most likely you have a regular job.
00:05:52.000 And if you're too out there on your political opinions online, eventually that will get back to your job if people know your name.
00:06:01.000 So, by ending online anonymity, you're effectively eliminating the ability of regular, ordinary people with regular, ordinary jobs to be able to express their political viewpoints, which are suppressed now more than ever.
00:06:15.000 It's also a great arena for creativity when you're not worried about consequences.
00:06:20.000 We're not worried about your reputation being attacked, your career being attacked.
00:06:24.000 You can be totally creative.
00:06:26.000 You can think only about what's the most pressing issues of the day rather than what's the most controversial issues of the day.
00:06:32.000 What's going to get me canceled?
00:06:33.000 And, you know, we've seen influential political philosophers, influential political writings that have emerged out of this anonymous spell.
00:06:41.000 You mentioned Bronze Age Per, but there's also Mencius Moldbug, Curtis Yarbon.
00:06:45.000 He's become extraordinarily influential, and he started off as an anon.
00:06:49.000 So, you know, to characterize online anonymity as a place purely of trolling and frivolity and abuse is that's always been a massive mischaracterization, just as it ever was.
00:07:01.000 Anonymity is a forum for dissident political ideas that would be extremely difficult for people to express under their real names, exactly as it was in the founding of America when the founders used anonymous pen names to discuss their ideas for the Constitution.
00:07:18.000 Yes, exactly.
00:07:19.000 And also, a book of the Bible, Hebrews, who we don't know the author of.
00:07:23.000 We speculate it's Paul, but it's largely anonymous.
00:07:28.000 And so, if Nikki Haley got her way, this would effectively then give social media companies and the intel agencies and anyone who chooses a tickler list of any dissidents that might be accusing them.
00:07:48.000 Talk about in the Chinese Communist Party, is anonymous speech protected in China?
00:07:53.000 Oh, absolutely not.
00:07:54.000 In many ways, this is step towards a social credit system in America.
00:08:00.000 When you know everyone's real name, then you know that, then you know how to ruin them, how to track them down, who they are, where they are, what their job is.
00:08:12.000 If you can track everyone down, then you can impose consequences on them for anything.
00:08:18.000 And this is the ultimate end game of authoritarians everywhere, to know everything about you, to know who's saying what, to know where they are, to know who they are, to know what their jobs are.
00:08:29.000 It's not about national security.
00:08:33.000 It is about the ever push to be able to control a citizenry and control a population.
00:08:43.000 Elon Musk has come out against this.
00:08:45.000 Interestingly, though, Elon used to think differently.
00:08:48.000 About a year and a half ago, Elon said, well, we might have to have you verified on the back end.
00:08:53.000 You could still have an anonymous account, but you have to at least present information on the back end.
00:09:00.000 He's changed, by the way, on this.
00:09:02.000 He thinks it's an awful and a terrible idea.
00:09:05.000 And so it's no different than gun control in the information age.
00:09:10.000 And the pen is mightier than the sword.
00:09:12.000 Do you anticipate this idea going anywhere?
00:09:17.000 I don't, mainly because I think it's a violation of the First Amendment to say that you have to speak under your real name.
00:09:24.000 I don't think the government can impose limits on speech like that.
00:09:26.000 And it's a good thing that it can't in the U.S.
00:09:28.000 It may well go somewhere in non-American countries.
00:09:31.000 I know there was a proposal to do this in the online arms bill in the UK.
00:09:36.000 So you're going to see other governments doing it.
00:09:39.000 You mentioned China as well.
00:09:40.000 I'm sure they're going to make it harder and harder to speak anonymously online.
00:09:44.000 Although it is still possible there to do it through VPNs and other privacy protecting software.
00:09:51.000 But the thing to understand about this debate is if you're in favor of ending online anonymity, you're in favor of imposing more consequences on speech.
00:10:02.000 Anonymous online speech is one of the few areas in the modern world where you aren't confronted with this massive fear of losing your job, losing your reputation, losing your career if you say the wrong thing, if you make the wrong joke, or if you express the wrong political opinion.
00:10:20.000 And to support getting rid of that is just a massive gift for cancel culture.
00:10:25.000 Alum, excellent commentary.
00:10:27.000 Thank you.
00:10:28.000 And plug your book, 20 seconds, plug your book or anything, please.
00:10:33.000 Also, if you want to learn more about tech censorship and all these issues, I wrote a book in 2020 called Deleted Big Tech's Battle to Erase the Trump Movement and Steal the Election that came out before the election.
00:10:33.000 Of course.
00:10:45.000 And, you know, we're still learning to this day about how tech companies interfered with that.
00:10:49.000 So if you want to learn more, check that book out.
00:10:51.000 It's available on Amazon and most major booksellers.
00:10:53.000 Alum, thank you so much.
00:10:55.000 Thank you.
00:10:55.000 Great work.
00:10:58.000 America's colleges and universities today are less concerned with critical thinking than with indoctrination.
00:11:04.000 It is no wonder why so many young Americans embrace cancel culture, deny free speech to conservatives, and even celebrate terrorism.
00:11:10.000 But I'm happy to report there is one college where students debate ideas openly and honestly, where they pursue truth together with their professors, and where America's great heritage of liberty is studied and revered.
00:11:20.000 My favorite college, Hillsdale College.
00:11:23.000 As stated in Hillsdale's founding document in 1844, Hillsdale's original mission was to offer the kind of serious liberal arts education needed to preserve the blessings of civil and religious liberty across the land.
00:11:34.000 And this mission continues to guide Hillsdale College today.
00:11:37.000 You can learn more at my favorite college's website, charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:11:41.000 There you will find a short video that's just over a minute long showing how Hillsdale's work, not only on its Michigan campus, not only in Washington, D.C. campus, but across the nation is effective in defending American liberty.
00:11:54.000 Take some time to watch today at charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:11:57.000 That is charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:12:02.000 It's amazing how much attention the George Floyd story got.
00:12:06.000 Amazing.
00:12:07.000 We burned down our whole country.
00:12:08.000 We took down statues. 0.94
00:12:10.000 Hundreds of millions of dollars was spent on BLM racial reckoning causes. 0.91
00:12:14.000 I'm very, very, very, very proud of this show. 0.99
00:12:17.000 We did not fall for that crap for a second. 0.99
00:12:21.000 How many Americans do you think know about what just recently happened in Las Vegas? 0.99
00:12:28.000 By the way, we didn't even cover on this show the other Las Vegas story a couple weeks ago where the two teens were going on a joyride in a car and ran over a retired police officer and they laugh about it in court.
00:12:40.000 Here's another story in Nevada that warrants our attention.
00:12:45.000 NewYorkPost.com, eight teens arrested in fatal beating of Las Vegas 17-year-old Jonathan Lewis.
00:12:56.000 So at a high school in Las Vegas, Nevada, there was a young white man by the name of Jonathan Lewis Jr.
00:13:05.000 He decided to stand up to a mob who was bullying a smaller boy.
00:13:09.000 The mob then goes around him and beats him relentlessly. 0.94
00:13:14.000 An adult doesn't intervene because you can't discipline kids, especially black kids, right? 0.99
00:13:18.000 They're allowed to do whatever they want. 0.98
00:13:20.000 I think eventually some adults came in, but he died.
00:13:23.000 Jonathan Lewis Jr. died.
00:13:26.000 Now, eight suspects have been taken into custody and booked into juvenile hall.
00:13:31.000 Many will probably be out and not serve time.
00:13:33.000 Honestly, they should rot in prison for the rest of their life.
00:13:36.000 I don't care that they are teenagers. 0.98
00:13:38.000 I don't care that they're young. 1.00
00:13:40.000 They should rot in prison for the rest of their life. 0.93
00:13:43.000 Jonathan's father claims on GoFundMe that, quote, one of Jonathan's smaller friends had something stolen by this group of 15, and they threw the small boy in the trash can, and our son confronted them and he was attacked by them.
00:13:56.000 The killers whooped in triumph and joy while jumping and stomping on Lewis's helpless, limp body. 0.88
00:14:02.000 How are they any better than Hamas? 0.69
00:14:04.000 Answer, they're not.
00:14:05.000 They're not.
00:14:07.000 Just 71 is going to play as I do this.
00:14:07.000 This is graphic.
00:14:10.000 How many media outlets are covering this?
00:14:13.000 Very few. 1.00
00:14:15.000 Every single one of these people should die in prison. 1.00
00:14:18.000 Yeah, just play 71. 0.99
00:14:19.000 The fight was allegedly over a pair of stolen headphones and possibly a vape pen, which were taken from the friends of the victim.
00:14:27.000 According to police, all parties agreed to meet in the alley to fight, but as soon as the first punch was thrown, Jonathan was swarmed and murdered.
00:14:35.000 They agreed to a fight.
00:14:36.000 Jonathan decided to fight honorably, but the black mob jumped him and murdered him. 0.98
00:14:41.000 They stomp him and kick him while he's limp on the ground. 0.94
00:14:45.000 We have covered extensively the war on white people in this country. 0.99
00:14:48.000 There is a war on white people in this country. 0.99
00:14:52.000 Far too often, we make excuses for blacks that commit crimes. 1.00
00:14:58.000 Black men do most of the murdering in this country, and yet they're 7% of the population. 0.99
00:15:04.000 We have entire walks around white privilege and seminars around white fragility. 1.00
00:15:10.000 We tell the public that white men are the source of all evil. 1.00
00:15:13.000 It's okay to hate white people. 1.00
00:15:15.000 And here you have eight black teenagers that murdered a courageous and good young man. 0.99
00:15:23.000 Honestly, that is a terrible way to die. 0.99
00:15:28.000 But if you're going to die, die doing something courageous. 0.99
00:15:32.000 And may the blessing of this young white man who was killed by a horde of blacks be a blessing. 0.99
00:15:40.000 In Louisiana the other day, there was a random stabbing of four white women by a black man. 0.99
00:15:46.000 Was it really that random? 0.99
00:15:47.000 Or has he been trained for years to hate white women? 1.00
00:15:50.000 We whip mentally unstable people to commit violence. 0.98
00:15:56.000 Here's just play 73 as I do this, please. 0.95
00:15:59.000 Is this in Louisiana?
00:16:01.000 Yep, there it is.
00:16:02.000 Is that acceptable behavior?
00:16:05.000 I don't know what I don't know which one this is.
00:16:07.000 Okay, there's so many anti-white hate crimes, we can't even keep track of it.
00:16:07.000 This is Oakland.
00:16:11.000 Look at that.
00:16:12.000 Yeah, they're coming for you.
00:16:15.000 Yeah, but racism is the problem, right?
00:16:18.000 Your universities are fomenting this type of behavior.
00:16:25.000 It's not just Jew hatred that gets intellectual support on university campuses and high schools. 0.95
00:16:32.000 It's white hatred too. 0.99
00:16:34.000 As the war on white people continues. 0.95
00:16:40.000 Hey, everybody, Mike Lindell is a passion to help you get the best sleep of your life.
00:16:44.000 He didn't stop at the pillow.
00:16:46.000 Mike Lindale has created the Giza Dream bedsheets.
00:16:49.000 These sheets look and feel great, which means an even better night's sleep, which is crucial for your overall health.
00:16:55.000 Mike found the world's best cotton called Giza.
00:16:57.000 It's ultra-soft and breathable, but extremely durable.
00:17:01.000 Mike's Giza sheets come with a 60-day money-back guarantee and a 10-year warranty.
00:17:06.000 Mike's latest incredible deal is the sale of the year.
00:17:09.000 For a limited time, you'll receive 50% off the Giza Dream Sheets, marking prices down as low as $29.98, depending on the size.
00:17:17.000 Go to mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.
00:17:20.000 That is mypillow.com, promo code Kirk, including the MyPillow 2.0 mattress topper, my pillow kitchen towel sets, and so much more.
00:17:28.000 Call 800-875-0425 or go to mypillow.com, use promo code Kirk, mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.
00:17:38.000 Joining us now is Citizen Kane from citizenfreepress.com.
00:17:41.000 Citizen Kane, let's just kind of start with: do you think you have a right to remain anonymous online, Citizen Kane?
00:17:49.000 It is one of the oldest traditions in American political history, going back to the Federalist Papers 250 years ago.
00:17:58.000 The right to remain anonymous and complain about your government is one of the most basic rights we have.
00:18:04.000 It's astonishing.
00:18:05.000 The headline I put up, you're referring to the Nikki Haley story, obviously.
00:18:10.000 And the headline I put up is that it should end her political career, but it won't. 0.98
00:18:16.000 There's, you know, anonymity is extremely important to a huge percentage of people who use Twitter, for example.
00:18:25.000 And those are the people that are upset about this.
00:18:28.000 But outside of that, the mainstream, you know, who is Nikki Haley appealing to anyway, right?
00:18:33.000 About 10% of the party that doesn't want Trump, maybe 20% at the most.
00:18:39.000 She's appealing to that group.
00:18:41.000 They tend to be older.
00:18:42.000 They're not on social media.
00:18:44.000 They don't know the importance of it.
00:18:46.000 You know, if anybody wants to know, actually, I think about it really quickly.
00:18:50.000 If you want to know the importance of anonymity, look at Steve Bannon and getting swatted three or four times in a month earlier this summer.
00:18:59.000 It's one of the huge reasons that Citizen Free Press was, you know, I never get the chance to sort of talk about what Citizen Free Press, what the name means, but it's a lot about citizens doing the work.
00:19:11.000 But the whole idea was anonymous from the beginning because I knew that with the type of headlines that I had planned to write, you know, as you know, Charlie, I didn't expect anyone to ever read this website.
00:19:22.000 I thought it was just going to be a cathartic thing where I could write headlines about how I really felt.
00:19:28.000 And so I knew that those would piss off groups from media matters to, you know, your standard leftists.
00:19:35.000 So, you know, to answer your question, anonymity is enshrined in this country going back 200 years.
00:19:42.000 It's incredibly important. 0.92
00:19:44.000 It shows how brain dead Nikki Haley is. 1.00
00:19:46.000 And it shows that she doesn't even understand what it's been like for conservatives for the last six years on social media. 0.65
00:19:55.000 But we're being told that Nikki Haley is gaining traction amongst the billionaire elite.
00:20:03.000 Tell us about it, Kane.
00:20:04.000 Yeah, I've got a couple of headlines up there.
00:20:06.000 I put them up in sort of honor of you.
00:20:08.000 You know, you were the first one to get me thinking and hopefully getting thousands of others thinking about why the billionaire donor class who hates Trump hasn't set aside $100 million to sort of for grassroots efforts.
00:20:24.000 So I'll get into it.
00:20:25.000 Yesterday, we heard that Ken Griffin is approaching his decision on whether to drop his support for Governor DeSantis and switch it to Nikki Haley.
00:20:37.000 And in addition to that, Jamie Dimon, the CEO of Chase Bank, came out and said he's been holding some secret economic meetings with Nikki Haley and believes she's the only one who can save the economy. 0.64
00:20:50.000 And it's, you know, my headlines for these are: you know, why are they chasing a loser?
00:20:57.000 Why are they chasing second place?
00:20:59.000 It's, it's not even, it's not a normal election.
00:21:01.000 It's not where second place is close.
00:21:03.000 This isn't Obama-Hillary in 2008.
00:21:06.000 This is Trump, who's probably going to end up with 60 to 70%, if not more.
00:21:11.000 So, Lou, this is important.
00:21:13.000 I'm getting a lot of people ask me, some donors, they say, hey, you know, isn't Nikki Haley the most obvious choice, right?
00:21:19.000 She can win over women. 1.00
00:21:20.000 She can win over a lot of people. 1.00
00:21:22.000 Nikki Haley is so unpopular with the MAGA base. 0.86
00:21:26.000 It's hard to even put words.
00:21:27.000 Please continue.
00:21:28.000 Okay, yeah.
00:21:29.000 So where I was going was just second place doesn't mean anything in this primary.
00:21:37.000 Trump is such a dominant force that second place doesn't mean anything.
00:21:40.000 In fact, outside of Vivek, I was going to say who I do consider MAGA, outside of Vivek and DeSantis, who, you know, and we all know his issues.
00:21:51.000 Outside of them, the rest of these candidates tend to be more anti-Trump.
00:21:56.000 And so being in second place means nothing.
00:21:59.000 So the fact that Ken Griffin is going to throw tens of millions more at Nikki Haley, it's like burning, you know, sending your money, putting it in a huge fire and setting it and just burning it into oblivion.
00:22:11.000 It's not going to help us win in 2024.
00:22:13.000 What will help us win is grassroots efforts like the Democrats announced last night, $25 million to help them take state legislatures.
00:22:22.000 And I've got a headline on that in the stack.
00:22:25.000 So it's the, you know, you're the one who brought this to the forefront.
00:22:28.000 It's this idea of wasting money on candidates who have no chance of winning instead of ensuring that the Republican Party wins in 2024.
00:22:38.000 And it's infuriating.
00:22:40.000 So, Kane, you know, you track the grassroots, the chatter, the intensity, and the energy.
00:22:48.000 It seems as if there's a growing movement, growing consensus, growing agreement that Ronna McRomney has to go.
00:22:56.000 Talk about what CFP Nation is thinking here and saying.
00:22:59.000 I don't even want to say what they call her.
00:23:01.000 You know, she never, she's always, she's always the topic of discussion there.
00:23:07.000 It, you know, as your listeners know, CFP is a heavy MAGA base.
00:23:12.000 So Ronna McDaniel or Ronna Romney is not popular.
00:23:16.000 People absolutely loved what happened with Vivek in the debate, how he called her out, how he called Kristen Welker out.
00:23:25.000 The open thread was on fire the next morning.
00:23:28.000 And I've been posting all this, you know, her big interviews on State of the Union and Meet the Press on Sunday.
00:23:34.000 So she's continued to sort of stay in the conversation.
00:23:38.000 And there's no positive thought, none whatsoever.
00:23:41.000 People, you know, the CFP crowd wanted Harm Eat Dylan 100%.
00:23:45.000 Harmee Dylan for RNC chair.
00:23:48.000 And look, you know, this woman's legacy is losing. 0.96
00:23:55.000 That is what she's known for.
00:23:56.000 And she goes on these shows and she's all smiles, says none of it is her fault, blames Glenn Yunkin, blames Virginia.
00:24:04.000 You know, people are sick and tired of it.
00:24:06.000 And I'm one of them.
00:24:07.000 Yeah, and it's just, we need change.
00:24:11.000 I'll be honest, I have not been able to find a person. that supports her that is not part of the 168.
00:24:17.000 Kane, this is going to significantly impact our ability to win coming into next 2000, coming in 2024.
00:24:28.000 If the RNC is not making the investments, which they're not, if the RNC is not trusted by the grassroots, and at the very least, Kane, it would be one thing if she was just raking in money.
00:24:37.000 It'd be one thing if she was raising a ton of money. 0.97
00:24:39.000 Okay, I would temper my criticism.
00:24:42.000 She's not even doing that, Kane. 0.99
00:24:44.000 She's not even doing the one thing that the establishment is typically good at. 1.00
00:24:48.000 In fact, Mediaite.com, Trump increasingly sour with Rana Mick Romney.
00:24:54.000 I think it's time for Trump to call for her resignation.
00:24:56.000 Do you agree, Kane?
00:24:57.000 I do.
00:24:58.000 And that would be a huge move.
00:24:59.000 And it's been talked about in the open thread for the past 24 hours because people remember what happened in the battle.
00:25:05.000 And Trump was sort of hamstrung.
00:25:06.000 And he endorsed Harmit and he endorsed Rana.
00:25:11.000 You know, you talked about the fact that she's not even that great at her job. 0.92
00:25:14.000 A huge reason that she's probably not raising big money is because 70% of the voter base supports Trump, who she obviously doesn't support and hasn't supported.
00:25:26.000 And there's a huge amount of donors that go along with that base.
00:25:29.000 So people, I mean, I've got threads, mini threads that start every day where people say, send your money directly to candidates only or directly to President Trump only, completely bypass the RNC.
00:25:41.000 And I think that mindset has taken over almost all of the MAGA base.
00:25:45.000 They all know that the RNC just burns the money on $100 million conventions in Milwaukee and, you know, and doesn't do the work to win.
00:25:55.000 And that's what you and Raheem and Bannon and others have been pointing out now for going back to before 2020 is the way you win this is on the ground.
00:26:06.000 You don't win this with big parties and television ads.
00:26:10.000 That's not how 2024 is going to be won.
00:26:12.000 It's going to be won on the ground and we need efforts like what Scott Pressler is doing with your help at TP action and what he's attempting to do in Wisconsin.
00:26:21.000 We need that in seven states.
00:26:23.000 We know it's that simple.
00:26:24.000 Come on, Gen Griffin.
00:26:25.000 Come on, Bernie Marcus.
00:26:27.000 Let's put together a $20 million package for each of the seven states.
00:26:31.000 That's $140 million.
00:26:32.000 And then if you want to go blow more money on TV ads, then do it.
00:26:36.000 But we need that $140 million to get out the vote for ballot harvesting in the states where it's legal.
00:26:42.000 And we need to ride this to victory.
00:26:45.000 This is a winnable battle in 2024.
00:26:47.000 And I'm tired of this nonsense that we get from the RNC.
00:26:52.000 NBC news, debates, the critical investments are not happening.
00:26:58.000 Let me just kind of highlight one article here from the New York Times.
00:27:01.000 I think I saw this in the stack on your, I go like nine times a day, by the way, to citizenfreepress.com.
00:27:08.000 They have so much money, but again, is the RNC adapting?
00:27:12.000 Are Republican super PACs doing this with their tons of money?
00:27:12.000 Are they doing this?
00:27:16.000 Super PAC for liberals going all in on digital.
00:27:19.000 Priorities USA, one of the biggest liberal super PACs, will not run a single television advertisement in the 2024 cycle, Kane.
00:27:26.000 Instead, the group announced Priorities USA, by the way, Priorities USA, blue chip, right, Kane?
00:27:31.000 They're where all their big donors park their money.
00:27:33.000 Priorities USA is the big one.
00:27:37.000 Is reshaping itself as a solely digital political strategy operation, the culmination of years-long transition from its supporting role in presidential campaigns to a full-service communications research and training behemoth for Democrats up and down the ballot.
00:27:52.000 $75 million is the amount priorities USA will spend only on digital efforts, no more television.
00:28:00.000 You have to wonder: will Republicans follow suit?
00:28:05.000 Herzog Foundation, for years, I've been talking about our nation's public schools and how they've been captured by progressive ideologues, teaching things that directly contradict the values of American families.
00:28:17.000 That's especially true if you are a Christian family.
00:28:21.000 For those of you worried about the best educational path for your kids and grandkids, I'm pleased to announce our new partnership with the folks at the Herzog Foundation.
00:28:29.000 They are the trusted source on American K-12 private education with a remarkable suite of resources for parents and grandparents thinking about making the switch from public schools to a Christian education.
00:28:41.000 They have an online publication called The Lion to their new podcast, Making the Leap.
00:28:46.000 The Herzog Foundation offers a wide range of advice and information for Christian parents to make the best education decisions for their kids.
00:28:55.000 To learn more about how your family, faith, and community can flourish through a quality Christian education, go to Herzogfoundation.com.
00:29:03.000 That is Herzogfoundation.com.
00:29:05.000 That's HerzogFoundation.com.
00:29:09.000 America Fest is the event of the year, Phoenix, Arizona, December 16, 17, 18, 19.
00:29:16.000 Amfest.com, A-M-F-E-S-T.com, Candace Owens, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Rob Schneider, and amazing speakers soon to be announced.
00:29:25.000 We got some big ones to announce.
00:29:28.000 Big ones.
00:29:29.000 You want to say something, Kane?
00:29:30.000 You know, regarding America Fest, I told you this a year ago.
00:29:33.000 One of these days, I'm leaving the Bloomington, Indiana bunker.
00:29:37.000 And you never know.
00:29:39.000 It may be for American Fest.
00:29:40.000 So I may be sort of incognito, part anonymous, roaming the halls of, I assume, Phoenix. 1.00
00:29:48.000 By the way, we have some serious Anons that come to Anfest. 0.58
00:29:52.000 We have billionaires that come dressed in full camouflage.
00:29:56.000 We have some of the richest people that you know, I'm not kidding.
00:29:59.000 We have some anons that we have bloggers, we have authors.
00:30:02.000 Andrew would tell you, we have a whole like process of getting anons in because look, these savages, these vermin that call themselves reporters, they want to destroy these people's lives. 0.98
00:30:12.000 So, Kane, I totally respect. 0.91
00:30:14.000 And by the way, Kane, you know, just talk about not any details about your life, but you've made a decision to remain anonymous.
00:30:21.000 And for you, that allows you to be outspoken.
00:30:23.000 And that is a thing of comfort and choosing.
00:30:26.000 Can you just talk about that?
00:30:26.000 I think it's really important.
00:30:28.000 You run one of the most popular websites on the internet while being anonymous.
00:30:32.000 I think that's amazing.
00:30:33.000 Yeah, it has, it does, you know, you hit a couple good points.
00:30:36.000 It does give you a sense of freedom.
00:30:38.000 It allows you to feel safe.
00:30:39.000 You know, the reasons, though, people would probably laugh at.
00:30:43.000 For example, why don't I want to get swatted?
00:30:46.000 Okay.
00:30:46.000 It's not that because I care about the police showing up in my door.
00:30:50.000 It's because I can't handle an hour break in the snack, in the stack, or an hour and a half.
00:30:56.000 This is a site that I literally run from my office, my home office that I've done every single day for six and a half years, quickly for readers who have never heard of it.
00:31:05.000 It's essentially just a headline RSS feed that I personally aggregate and I write all the headlines for.
00:31:12.000 And it updates from about eight in the morning until about midnight or 1 a.m. every night.
00:31:18.000 So this is essentially my life and anything that gets in the way of my productivity, like a SWAT team at my door wondering about some, you know, some fake phone call that was dialed in.
00:31:29.000 Anything that sort of takes away my focus screws up the site.
00:31:32.000 You know, I barely sort of, I eat, I sleep, and I run the site.
00:31:36.000 And I sleep about five and a half hours at night.
00:31:39.000 And so I like to get a nap in the later afternoon.
00:31:43.000 So people can essentially time my life by the breaks that they will, that they see in the, you know, in the stack and in terms of headlines updating.
00:31:52.000 But back to your sort of original point about the freedom.
00:31:56.000 Yeah, it's nice.
00:31:57.000 You know, I never wanted to be on Media Matters radar.
00:32:00.000 I never.
00:32:03.000 I've never wanted my first name out there.
00:32:05.000 I don't want any credit for this.
00:32:06.000 I feel like the credit are all the people who listen to your show and all the people who read my site.
00:32:12.000 It's the base.
00:32:13.000 They're the ones who deserve the credit.
00:32:15.000 I'm just a voice that's helping put things out there.
00:32:19.000 But certainly, you know, I have a, yeah, it's unbelievable.
00:32:25.000 It shows, in my opinion, shows unbelievable naivete and out of touchness that Nikki Haley doesn't understand how important the anonymous base is.
00:32:36.000 Not only the Federalist Papers, but the one that we haven't mentioned or I haven't seen is Silence Do Good, Benjamin Franklin.
00:32:43.000 Yeah.
00:32:44.000 He, to get published in the New England Current, he wrote under an Anon name.
00:32:50.000 Benjamin Franklin, one of the great American founding fathers, one of the most impressive people ever to live.
00:32:56.000 He wrote as an anon.
00:32:59.000 And Nikki Haley. 0.98
00:32:59.000 Because the British would have. 0.98
00:33:01.000 Yeah, by the way, Nikki Haley's like King George being like, who is this? 0.64
00:33:04.000 I want your driver's license.
00:33:06.000 Close the thought, Kane.
00:33:08.000 Well, you know, Benjamin Franklin had to be anonymous because the British would have hanged him.
00:33:15.000 And Nikki Haley doesn't understand now that though we may not have actual lynchings, you know, unless you're a Jewish student on, let's say, Columbia University's campus, that though we don't have actual lynchings, we have virtual lynchings.
00:33:30.000 People lose their jobs.
00:33:31.000 They lose their friends, their family.
00:33:34.000 Yeah, and it's stunning that she doesn't understand that.
00:33:38.000 No, it's unacceptable and it's repulsive.
00:33:41.000 Kane, excellent job.
00:33:42.000 God bless you, man.
00:33:43.000 Talk to you soon.
00:33:44.000 CitizenFreePress.com.
00:33:45.000 I visit it over 10 times a day.
00:33:48.000 Thank you.
00:33:49.000 Thanks, Kane.
00:33:52.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:54.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:33:57.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
00:34:02.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.