The Charlie Kirk Show - The Rise of Independent Media — and the Fall of the Old

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00:01:29.000 Citizen Kane joins us.

00:01:30.000 Blake is also co-piloting throughout this hour, one of my favorite guests, favorite websites, citizenfreepress.com.

00:01:37.000 Citizen Kane, welcome to the program.

00:01:38.000 Thank you for defending me, by the way, in the last week.

00:01:41.000 It's always good to have the Citizen Free Press Nation having my back.

00:01:46.000 So thank you for that.

00:01:47.000 You are a patriot and a scholar.

00:01:51.000 Those, you know, can they get more patently obvious when the RNC is upset and seven unnamed sources go running to NBC?

00:02:01.000 I hope readers saw those stories in the stack.

00:02:04.000 The knives were out for you, Charlie.

00:02:05.000 It means you're having success.

00:02:08.000 Well, and if you didn't know, the knives are out for me, it's okay because two separate publications both use the same headline that the knives are out for me.

00:02:16.000 So, Kane, love it.

00:02:17.000 I visited, I actually checked.

00:02:19.000 I visited Citizen Free Press 48 times yesterday.

00:02:23.000 I just keep on refreshing it.

00:02:25.000 And by the way, it's because you keep it so updated.

00:02:28.000 You found something noteworthy.

00:02:29.000 This is breaking news, Kane.

00:02:31.000 What is this controversial January 6th obstruction charge that SCOTUS is going to hear?

00:02:35.000 Walk us through it.

00:02:36.000 Well, you know the case very well. 1.00

00:02:38.000 It's one of the J6 defendants.

00:02:41.000 He petitioned the Supreme Court, and Amy Howe on SCOTUS blog yesterday gave an update.

00:02:48.000 The Supreme Court agreed to hear oral arguments in Fisher versus the United States on April 16th.

00:02:56.000 And why that's significant is: number one, that's two months from now before they even hear the case.

00:03:00.000 This is that strange obstruction of an official proceeding charge that is supposed to relate to deletion of electronic records as it was first applied in the Enron case 20 years ago.

00:03:14.000 So the J6 prosecutors have twisted that charge, have 300, they have it against 300 different J6 defendants, and it also makes up two of the four charges against Trump in the Jack Smith case.

00:03:28.000 So everyone is paying attention to the immunity issue and whether the Supreme Court will issue a stay or what they will do with that ruling and how that will delay the Jack Smith trial.

00:03:38.000 But they're sort of forgetting that if two of the four charges against Trump are still to be decided by the Supreme Court, then there's no way that trial can begin until that decision comes.

00:03:51.000 So it's an April 16th oral arguments, and Amy Howe said the decision would be due in late June.

00:03:57.000 So as a last thought on that, the Trump team hasn't brought this up in a filing because the case, the Judge Chutkin case is essentially, you know, it's delayed right now based on the immunity issue.

00:04:11.000 So as soon as that immunity issue is decided either positively or negatively for Trump, then they will be able to do a filing and say, not so fast, Jack Smith.

00:04:21.000 You can't proceed on these other two charges because of the Supreme Court.

00:04:26.000 So that's my nuts.

00:04:28.000 That's super smart, Kane.

00:04:29.000 And but Blake, I want you to chime in quick.

00:04:31.000 That also, this has delayed any motions too.

00:04:34.000 Basically, it has frozen the entire move of the court.

00:04:37.000 Is that right?

00:04:38.000 And it's all about, is it actually going to go before the court before election?

00:04:38.000 Exactly.

00:04:44.000 And a wild card here.

00:04:45.000 Can you just say how dysfunctional this is that we have election?

00:04:47.000 Like it shouldn't be anywhere near elections.

00:04:50.000 This is so damaging.

00:04:51.000 Well, you know, it's America, so it's always near an election, of course.

00:04:54.000 Okay, fine.

00:04:54.000 Sorry, continue.

00:04:55.000 I interrupt that.

00:04:55.000 Well, it's just traditionally the DOJ avoided advancing criminal stuff really close to an election.

00:05:01.000 So one interesting facet of this is, and that will really, I think, twist how people react to this, is are we going to get, you know, in October, and normally the DOJ would stand back, stand down for this time.

00:05:17.000 But is Jack Smith going to say, no, we need to ram this through as fast as we can?

00:05:21.000 I want this finished by election day.

00:05:23.000 We could see more norms get smashed up here.

00:05:27.000 Kane, the significance of the- Yeah, Kane, you want to riff on that?

00:05:32.000 Blake did make a good point.

00:05:33.000 Well, just that I think that's a good point.

00:05:35.000 I think that, and that's perfectly stated, norms get smashed.

00:05:39.000 They, you know, they've shown us this year that they don't, that they don't care about norms.

00:05:43.000 So I wouldn't be surprised if they, if they try to start this trial in July or August.

00:05:47.000 So so Kane, you, you've really, you've analyzed the horizon well on all the law fair stuff. 0.72

00:05:52.000 The Fannie Willis is falling apart.

00:05:54.000 That's the one that you and I were always really worried about.

00:05:57.000 The Alvin Bragg one doesn't seem too concerning, except that they're going to add, you know, Donald Trump's name is going to change.

00:06:03.000 It's no longer going to be Donald Trump.

00:06:05.000 It's going to be convicted felon Donald Trump.

00:06:07.000 It's going to be this, it's just kind of adding a new intro to him.

00:06:12.000 How are you thinking about the law fair, especially politically?

00:06:15.000 Do you think it's going to change up the state of the race?

00:06:18.000 I don't, Charlie.

00:06:19.000 And I'll tell you why, right?

00:06:20.000 What is the big thing, the big ace in the pocket that leftist media has pulled out over the last two months?

00:06:25.000 In every poll, they always say, hey, but we have this outlier poll that says 42% or 52% of Republicans would change their mind about Trump if he were convicted of a felony, right?

00:06:38.000 Well, here's why I don't believe those polls.

00:06:40.000 Those exact same polls existed 10 months ago and said 60% of Republicans would change their minds if Trump is indicted for a criminal charge, right?

00:06:52.000 So we had all those polls.

00:06:53.000 Those were probably helping DeSantis back, you know, more than a year ago at this time.

00:06:58.000 And what happened?

00:06:59.000 Trump was indicted four times and his support went up.

00:07:02.000 So I don't hold politically, I'm not afraid of a conviction because as you said, it's going to be, I mean, that's the whole Alvin Bragg case, right?

00:07:12.000 Everyone has said you can't criminalize an election violation, right?

00:07:19.000 I mean, the FEC would normally handle all of these things.

00:07:23.000 It's a misdemeanor at most, and you can't turn it into a felony.

00:07:27.000 But Judge Mershon is a corrupt judge in New York and Manhattan, and he's going to, you know, he doesn't seem to be putting up any roadblocks in front of the Alvin Bragg case.

00:07:36.000 So they're most likely going to get a conviction.

00:07:39.000 Now, as many have said, even, you know, Trump's enemy, John Bolton, said famously on CNN that this case has no chance on appeal.

00:07:47.000 But politically, they're going to try to get that convicted felon, and then they're going to run poll after poll to see if it's really true that Trump has now suddenly lost a huge base of support.

00:07:58.000 And quick answer, he won't.

00:08:00.000 There is no chance he's going to lose support for a conviction in the Alvin Bragg case.

00:08:05.000 I'll stick with that.

00:08:07.000 Yeah, so Kane, I think that Trump so far has been able to use this as... a benefit.

00:08:13.000 It's supercharged his campaign.

00:08:15.000 It's made him more sympathetic.

00:08:17.000 And it looks like the government is overreaching.

00:08:20.000 The 14th Amendment case looks like he's going to be on the ballot.

00:08:23.000 The Eugene Carroll stuff still needs to be kind of sorted out.

00:08:27.000 The Fannie Willis stuff, I think the Fannie Willis case in its current handling might win us the state of Georgia.

00:08:33.000 I really do. 0.61

00:08:34.000 I think it might win us the state of Georgia.

00:08:35.000 Your thoughts, Kane?

00:08:36.000 Well, I think I put up a poll yesterday.

00:08:38.000 He's already up about six in Georgia.

00:08:41.000 And there's no doubt.

00:08:42.000 I mean, I was shocked at how objectively the Atlanta Journal Constitution covered the trial last week or the hearing last week.

00:08:50.000 And I was stunned when they picked up the story and they put it on the front page this morning so quickly.

00:08:55.000 So I, you know, look, if you've lost the AJC, you're losing.

00:09:00.000 And I think, you know, they put a line in that story of that Judge Scott McAfee will have to decide whether to allow this evidence from the private investigator into trial.

00:09:11.000 That's, you know, that's wish casting there.

00:09:13.000 There is no chance that Scott McAfee can exclude this evidence.

00:09:17.000 And I think this was the death knell.

00:09:19.000 Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade are off that case, and they will have to look for a completely new set of prosecutors, which will require a delay.

00:09:19.000 It's over.

00:09:29.000 So I would go ahead and say there's no chance that case even begins before the election.

00:09:34.000 But I know you're a sports guy.

00:09:35.000 March Madness is around the corner, right?

00:09:37.000 Which is a holy time for us, right, Kane?

00:09:39.000 I want you to lay the odds.

00:09:43.000 What are the odds, Kane?

00:09:45.000 What is the over-under of Trump-Haley in South Carolina?

00:09:48.000 Give us the over-under.

00:09:49.000 You are Caesars Palace.

00:09:50.000 The over-under on what?

00:09:52.000 The margins?

00:09:53.000 The marginal.

00:09:54.000 Just the margin.

00:09:56.000 I would go, look, they're going to have Democrats, right?

00:09:58.000 They're going to have Democrats try to vote for Nikki, but I would say over-under. 0.86

00:10:03.000 If Vegas were offering 30, I would take it because I think it'll be, I think Trump will beat her by more than 100%.

00:10:09.000 Would you take 30?

00:10:10.000 If the line was 30, Blake?

00:10:11.000 I don't think Nikki Haley is going to make the Sweet 16.

00:10:14.000 That's not what we're talking about.

00:10:16.000 I know, but she won't even make, she wouldn't make the NIT bracket. 0.71

00:10:20.000 Ooh, that's brutal.

00:10:21.000 Not even NIT.

00:10:22.000 That's gruesome.

00:10:22.000 No.

00:10:23.000 For those of you that know, Kane knows what I'm talking about.

00:10:26.000 That's a true insult.

00:10:28.000 If it was 30 points, would I take the line?

00:10:30.000 Ryan, would you take the line at 30 points?

00:10:34.000 If it was a 30-point margin, Trump plus 30.

00:10:38.000 I don't know.

00:10:39.000 I'd have to think about that.

00:10:41.000 And Nikki's house.

00:10:42.000 That means I laid a good number.

00:10:43.000 Yeah, that means I laid it a good number.

00:10:47.000 That's right.

00:10:47.000 If it was 20, I would take it.

00:10:49.000 Let me just, it was 40, I'd back off.

00:10:50.000 So I think you're an odds maker, Kane.

00:10:53.000 You are an odds maker.

00:10:54.000 Yeah, whatever.

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00:12:00.000 Web traffic is just going amazing for citizenfreepress.com.

00:12:03.000 Speaking of which, I want to talk about how media has changed.

00:12:07.000 So, Kane, you are thriving.

00:12:10.000 How many staff do you have, Kane?

00:12:11.000 Like one and a half?

00:12:13.000 Yeah, I have someone who runs the Twitter feed, Spencer, and another guy who runs the true social and getter feeds.

00:12:20.000 These are guys who have been with me from the beginning, but that's it.

00:12:23.000 I run the site on my own, which is not good.

00:12:26.000 Okay, well, yeah, we got to talk about your health offline, Kane.

00:12:30.000 But so, Kane, what's your web traffic in?

00:12:32.000 I'm getting at this for a reason because you have a story on the stack I want to contrast this with.

00:12:35.000 Your web traffic is what, 130 million visitors or something?

00:12:39.000 We're doing 13 and a half to 14 million every day.

00:12:43.000 Not visitors, but total page views.

00:12:45.000 That's just incredible.

00:12:46.000 And yeah.

00:12:48.000 Well, you're doing something with one employee that Vice Media was not able to do.

00:12:53.000 Vice Media is done.

00:12:54.000 They plan to cut hundreds of jobs and stop publishing on its flagship website.

00:12:58.000 Kane, what do you do that Vice doesn't?

00:13:04.000 It's the business models.

00:13:08.000 I don't want to get too heavy into this because I could go for 10, 20 minutes on this, Charlie.

00:13:13.000 I've been watching media.

00:13:15.000 I was in media right out of college originally, and I worked for CNN and Lou Dobbs.

00:13:20.000 And I've just been paying attention forever.

00:13:22.000 And one of the things I always noticed is that you have a huge number of websites that do the same story.

00:13:29.000 And it happens at, you know, and so the problem is that when everyone wants to get into the media business, they essentially try to just sort of recreate what everyone else has done.

00:13:43.000 They create a website that does 20, 25 important stories a day.

00:13:46.000 But the problem is everyone, you know, many other websites are doing those same stories.

00:13:50.000 And so they have high fixed costs with very expensive writers.

00:13:54.000 So I knew from the beginning, I mean, obviously it's an aggregation site.

00:13:58.000 So it's, you know, it's like I luck out just based on that choice because I don't really have to do any of the writing, though I did originally, I was doing 50 or 60 of my own stories every day.

00:14:11.000 But as an aggregation site, as long as you've got the stamina, I mean, you talked about visiting 48 times the other day, which is insane.

00:14:20.000 But the reason that you're able to do that is, I mean, that's also the bane of my existence, right?

00:14:25.000 Because I know that people are coming every half hour.

00:14:28.000 They're coming every 20 or 30 minutes.

00:14:31.000 So I've got to have 10 or 15 stories every hour from 9 in the morning until 1 a.m.

00:14:37.000 So whatever.

00:14:40.000 Things could be worse.

00:14:41.000 I don't really have a right to complain.

00:14:42.000 No, but just Kane, I mean, I brag on you.

00:14:44.000 You're this bottom-up grassroots hero that is doing web traffic.

00:14:48.000 And Vice Media, who had George Soros backing it, is like collapsing and falling apart.

00:14:53.000 And here's the Mary Band.

00:14:54.000 Hundreds of millions.

00:14:55.000 Yeah.

00:14:56.000 Hundreds of millions.

00:14:59.000 Look at the messenger, the implosion of the messenger.

00:15:01.000 Jimmy Finkelstein did the exact same thing with the messenger.

00:15:05.000 He, I mean, they blew through 500 million, or maybe it was 50 million, but he blew through a huge amount of money just in six months.

00:15:12.000 And it seems as though no one thinks this out that these, you know, advertising isn't easy, as you know.

00:15:18.000 And it's not easy to keep a website going with advertising.

00:15:22.000 So you have to keep your costs as low as you possibly can.

00:15:25.000 And none of these entities seem to.

00:15:27.000 You got to give the Joe Biden presidency credit.

00:15:29.000 You have Vice, BuzzFeed, and HuffPost all basically dead in one presidency.

00:15:34.000 I mean, right?

00:15:35.000 I mean, if Trump was president, they'd all be like really popular.

00:15:38.000 It's just amazing because they were all bound up with that zeitgeist of Web 2.0, Facebook, new social media, and then on top of that being insanely anti-Trump.

00:15:47.000 And they're not even going to outlive Donald Trump's political career.

00:15:50.000 Not even close.

00:15:51.000 Kane, final thoughts on just the media landscape 2024, other stories you have your eyes on?

00:15:57.000 Well, first of all, you talked about the NCAA tournament.

00:16:01.000 So I want to give a shout out to Northwestern, which is, I know you grew up in Evanston.

00:16:06.000 I headed out of the CFP headquarters, the cave, for about an hour a week ago and saw Northwestern just dominate the Hoosiers in Assembly Hall. 0.95

00:16:14.000 So that's embarrassing.

00:16:15.000 As for the media outlook, it's going to be continued shrinkage.

00:16:19.000 The business models aren't working.

00:16:21.000 You know, you've got to figure out how to make it.

00:16:23.000 If you're running a media organization, you've got to figure out how to make it with unpaid interns.

00:16:27.000 It's the only way you can do it if you're going to write your own stories.

00:16:30.000 As for the Supreme Court, I want to add this really quick.

00:16:33.000 Here's the thing.

00:16:34.000 The Supreme Court could have avoided the Fisher case, right?

00:16:38.000 That was just one of hundreds of cases that were put before them in December, but they really, really quickly granted cert in that case.

00:16:45.000 And that should tell people something.

00:16:47.000 That should tell people that those two of four, that the two obstruction of an official proceeding charges are going to be thrown out in that Trump case.

00:16:54.000 And so I would like to direct people to, you know, pay close attention to that case.

00:16:59.000 And with that, I'll throw it back to you.

00:17:01.000 Happy Friday to both of you.

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00:17:52.000 All right.

00:17:52.000 Really interesting, important story here.

00:17:55.000 Joining us right now is Josie Glayback.

00:17:58.000 Josie, welcome to the program.

00:18:00.000 We're here to talk about Javier Millay, who amazingly was able to balance the budget.

00:18:05.000 Tell us all about it.

00:18:06.000 Sure.

00:18:07.000 So Argentina had a 135% inflation rate.

00:18:12.000 They were a Pyranist country with kind of socialist policies that all failed.

00:18:16.000 Pyronism is named for Juan Perrone, who is essentially an anti-capitalist corporate, who essentially created this anti-capitalist corporate model with a government middleman.

00:18:28.000 But it's socialist adjacent.

00:18:30.000 And as we know, countries that are socialist adjacent or socialists themselves, like Venezuela, always fail and they often collapse.

00:18:38.000 In this case, though, Argentinians, they found a solution and they found it in an anarcho-capitalist, libertarian-leaning man, Javier Malay.

00:18:49.000 And it really, it's much like our founding fathers, kind of his policies.

00:18:54.000 And it's really exciting.

00:18:56.000 So he speaks about socialists scathingly in the same way like our founders spoke about King George.

00:19:02.000 And he wanted to cut off the head of the snake, which he did.

00:19:06.000 So his policy positions were to cut spending through the cutting the ministries was the main way that he was going to do this.

00:19:12.000 And that's essentially equivalent to cutting the Department of Education, the Department of Interior, you know, that sort of stuff, which he did.

00:19:21.000 So within nine and a half weeks, he created a surplus in his budget, which is just incredible.

00:19:31.000 So before Javier Malay took office, Argentina's inflation rate had been rising at about 16% a month, roughly.

00:19:40.000 And Malay's plan was to devalue the peso 50% to kind of make it.

00:19:46.000 So their peso was issued by Argentinian politicians.

00:19:51.000 It wasn't backed by anything.

00:19:53.000 So his goal was to decrease the value of the peso, devalue it by 50%, which he did.

00:20:00.000 And this created, as he told Argentinians, it would create some kind of a little bit of backlash that would be temporary and create a little bit of poverty.

00:20:08.000 So there was a little bit of temporary fallout, but this is how you kind of have to quell triple digit inflation.

00:20:14.000 He's created a surplus.

00:20:14.000 So he's done that.

00:20:16.000 And, you know, the rest is history.

00:20:18.000 I'm really excited to see how the rest of his administration goes.

00:20:21.000 Yeah, that's really interesting.

00:20:23.000 So is this popular with the Argentinian people so far, what he is doing?

00:20:28.000 Yes.

00:20:29.000 I had a tweet that went viral and was retweeted.

00:20:34.000 I shouldn't say retweeted, reposted by Javier Malay himself.

00:20:37.000 So I was getting feedback from Argentinians.

00:20:39.000 I was getting feedback from kind of everybody.

00:20:42.000 And there are some Argentinians that still lean left and they're like, we're starving.

00:20:47.000 And it's like, well, part of quelling this inflation was having to devalue the peso, which was going to make it a little bit harder to survive for a little bit.

00:20:55.000 But, you know, you just voted in all these policies for 12 years or whatever that you've been, you've been starving for 12 years, dude, you know?

00:21:01.000 So, of course, you know, there's some people who are unhappy just because they're always going to be unhappy because they're socialist and the capitalist policy is working.

00:21:11.000 But most people are so happy with the progress of this.

00:21:16.000 They know they have a surplus.

00:21:18.000 They know that they're going to be going towards the dollar.

00:21:20.000 He's open to other monetary currencies like Bitcoin.

00:21:24.000 This is just a really exciting all-around what's happening in Argentina.

00:21:29.000 And it shows that, you know, if our government wanted to fix our stuff, they could.

00:21:36.000 I mean, Blake, you have some thoughts on this.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:38.000 By the way, just speaking of silver, Argentina doesn't mean the silver country.

00:21:41.000 Silverland.

00:21:42.000 Argenti is silver in Latin.

00:21:45.000 It's just Argentina has incredible natural resources, amazing, amazing grass-fed beef.

00:21:51.000 I think the greatest on the planet.

00:21:52.000 I mean, it's a lot like the United States.

00:21:54.000 Huge amounts of land was basically very lightly settled.

00:21:59.000 They had their own Indian wars in about the same time we did.

00:22:02.000 They had their own cowboy culture.

00:22:03.000 A lot of cultural similarities.

00:22:06.000 But and 100 years ago, they were one of the richest countries in the world.

00:22:10.000 There was a saying, rich as an Argentine, because you'd have these fabulously wealthy Argentine beef magnates traveling to Europe and living it up. 0.99

00:22:19.000 It was almost like they were like the Arab sheiks of their day. 0.76

00:22:23.000 And they basically had this political moment. 1.00

00:22:23.000 Wow. 1.00

00:22:26.000 She mentioned Juan Peron, Peronism, where they had the Perones.

00:22:31.000 It was Juan Peron and his wife Evita.

00:22:33.000 She has, I believe, a musical about her.

00:22:35.000 Don't cry for me, Argentina.

00:22:37.000 Ava Peron?

00:22:39.000 Yes, no, you might be.

00:22:39.000 Whatever.

00:22:40.000 And I think Evita was probably the nickname.

00:22:43.000 And so Peronism is very complicated.

00:22:47.000 If you try to read a summary of it, it like is really confusing.

00:22:52.000 And but a lot of it was basically proto-wokeness.

00:22:56.000 And they'll frame it sometimes as like right wing or left-wing, or sometimes they'll kind of make it quasi-fascist.

00:23:02.000 But what a lot of it was, was it was this sort of socialist-esque stuff.

00:23:06.000 Yes.

00:23:06.000 And really, ever since that happened, Argentina's never been able to get it back together.

00:23:11.000 They are the first country to go from being a first world country to a third world country.

00:23:16.000 And the amazing thing is they've done it twice. 0.99

00:23:18.000 And it's always just they embrace these bad economic policies and then they're stupid, but they're popular. 0.99

00:23:26.000 And good at stuff. 0.99

00:23:27.000 It's finally gotten bad enough that, yeah, they've hit the emergency button and they've elected basically the most extreme guy they possibly could.

00:23:34.000 And we'll see if it works.

00:23:35.000 And the sad thing is, it'll probably work.

00:23:37.000 And then in a decade, they'll say, but what if socialism could work this time?

00:23:41.000 So, Josie, the war continues.

00:23:41.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 The socialists are not calming down.

00:23:45.000 They're going to go for Malay. 0.68

00:23:47.000 But he seems to be determined. 0.95

00:23:49.000 Tell us more.

00:23:51.000 So I was actually going back and reading some of the comments when he was elected.

00:23:56.000 They were calling him Argentina's Donald Trump.

00:23:59.000 They were saying he's a populist, he's far right.

00:24:02.000 And they were using trigger words, you know, far right, Donald Trump.

00:24:04.000 And it's kind of like a bell for Pavlov's dog.

00:24:07.000 So, you know, they say these things and they're like, oh my God, this is bad.

00:24:11.000 Donald Trump bad.

00:24:12.000 Javier Malay bad.

00:24:13.000 And, you know, they lose their minds over this guy.

00:24:17.000 But, you know, nine and a half weeks and there's a surplus of money in the country.

00:24:21.000 So, I mean, is he really that bad?

00:24:27.000 Are these things really that bad?

00:24:28.000 You know, I mean, it all got memory hold pretty quick.

00:24:30.000 I had to go back and find old articles to find this stuff again, but they're really just not acknowledging it.

00:24:37.000 Or they're talking about, as I said earlier, the fact that poverty went up because of his policy.

00:24:44.000 But that was, that's how he well the inflation.

00:24:46.000 That was a natural.

00:24:48.000 He's kind of a wacky guy.

00:24:48.000 Yeah.

00:24:48.000 He's signed up.

00:24:50.000 He doesn't seem to care, though, meaning not care that like there's not poverty, meaning he knows that it's going to require, it's like taking your cough syrup medicine.

00:24:58.000 You don't like it, but it's going to help.

00:25:00.000 And it just seems as if he just knows that you're going to have to embrace the haters and so be it.

00:25:07.000 Yes.

00:25:08.000 And he's very, very vulgar.

00:25:09.000 I was trying to find some quotes to read to you, but they're all written with swears because I don't know how he speaks.

00:25:16.000 But, you know, it speaks to the normal people.

00:25:19.000 It speaks to the people who are angry.

00:25:21.000 He was explaining the currency, how it's backed by politicians.

00:25:25.000 And he's like, I'm just going to put it really simply. 1.00

00:25:27.000 He's like, it's garbage. 0.97

00:25:28.000 It's not even good enough for fertilizer. 0.99

00:25:30.000 It's worth nothing.

00:25:31.000 And, you know, obviously it was riddled with cuss words.

00:25:34.000 But he, and then before he got elected, he was showing what he was, how he was going to, how he was going to do it.

00:25:42.000 And he had a board up, a whiteboard, and it had all of these different ministries on it.

00:25:48.000 And he went through and he took one.

00:25:49.000 He's like, afraid, take it and throw it down.

00:25:52.000 He's like, even if they resist, he was going to get rid of their department.

00:25:55.000 And they had ministries that we don't have.

00:25:58.000 Like, I think there was like a, there were woke ministries mixed in there.

00:26:01.000 I think there was like a ministry of the LGBTQ or something like that, too. 0.72

00:26:04.000 Like he really just abolished as much as he could, maybe like 90% of them.

00:26:08.000 And I mean, maybe Blake, you will know, or Josie, does he have to go through a Congress equivalent to do this?

00:26:13.000 Or is there some of this through executive power?

00:26:15.000 He does.

00:26:16.000 And they are holding up a lot of what he wanted to do.

00:26:19.000 So even what he's doing now is a more moderate version.

00:26:21.000 And he's used some emergency powers that he has.

00:26:23.000 So this is definitely Argentina is not fixed yet.

00:26:27.000 And in fact, their economy in the next six months is going to be really painful.

00:26:30.000 It's a lot of crime, probably.

00:26:31.000 Well, it's the classic, like, if you ignore a medical problem for, you know, five years, fixing it is going to be a lot harder than it's where America's headed.

00:26:37.000 Got it early.

00:26:38.000 Yeah.

00:26:38.000 Let's listen.

00:26:38.000 All right.

00:26:39.000 Let's listen to this.

00:26:40.000 Afuera, 139.

00:26:50.000 Afuera.

00:26:51.000 Ministerio de la pujero de seciono de diversía.

00:26:54.000 Afuera.

00:26:55.000 Ministerio de la Rapúblicas.

00:26:57.000 Afuera.

00:26:58.000 Ao que teta resistas.

00:27:00.000 Ministerio de sienzi tecnologia de innovación.

00:27:03.000 Afuera.

00:27:03.000 Ministio tamáco complexo ya social.

00:27:05.000 Afuera.

00:27:06.000 Ministio de edución.

00:27:07.000 Adofinamentos.

00:27:08.000 Afuera.

00:27:09.000 Ministerio de taporte.

00:27:10.000 Ministio de salud.

00:27:10.000 Afuera.

00:27:12.000 Afueda.

00:27:13.000 Ministerio de zaroso social.

00:27:15.000 Afueada.

00:27:16.000 Siacabo el curo de la política.

00:27:20.000 Viebacaco.

00:27:21.000 I mean, Josie, I can't imagine an American politician doing that.

00:27:24.000 We're too addicted to big government.

00:27:26.000 I can see Congressman Massey doing that, but maybe that's it.

00:27:32.000 Yeah, I just, you know, there's you should do it while yelling afuera in a Kentucky accent.

00:27:36.000 Oh, it would just, I mean, it is something.

00:27:38.000 So final takeaway, Josie, about a minute remaining.

00:27:41.000 How can we apply this to American politics?

00:27:43.000 I find it to be an inspiration.

00:27:44.000 Yeah.

00:27:45.000 Well, we need to have a president in there that does that. 1.00

00:27:49.000 We need to have a Congress that won't hold up the president. 0.72

00:27:55.000 We just, we need to vote in favor of ourselves, not in favor of how we feel to be able to get politicians who are liberty-minded.

00:28:04.000 So the fact that Argentina's elected somebody, the fact that we're seeing what's happening, the fact that we are in chaos right now and people are looking to vote red when they've never voted red before in their lives.

00:28:15.000 Our economy, everything is failing right now, and everybody's struggling.

00:28:19.000 You feel it personally.

00:28:20.000 So hopefully they make changes at the ballot box and we get somebody and you know Donald Trump in there.

00:28:26.000 Thank you so much, Josie.

00:28:27.000 Great work.

00:28:27.000 Really appreciate it.

00:28:28.000 Thank you.

00:28:29.000 And then also check out her spaces. 0.82

00:28:30.000 It's Josie on Timcast.com.

00:28:33.000 So check it out.

00:28:34.000 Check out her spaces. 0.93

00:28:35.000 Thanks so much, Josie.

00:28:36.000 Thank you.

00:28:39.000 So who would ever think that we'd be looking to a small Central American country for leadership at CPAC?

00:28:47.000 Mr. Bukele speak.

00:28:48.000 Give us the background on this.

00:28:50.000 I mean, the whole picture.

00:28:52.000 I mean, so for 50 years, El Salvador, El Salvador was preposterously violent.

00:29:00.000 You would have a whole country where the murder rate for the average year would be as bad as, you know, the worst neighborhood in St. Louis or Baltimore, just year in, year out.

00:29:09.000 And it would fluctuate a bit, but it was always high. 1.00

00:29:12.000 And in, I believe, 2019, they elected Bukele.

00:29:17.000 He was the mayor of San Salvador, the capital.

00:29:20.000 And he came in and it was sort of interesting.

00:29:23.000 He slowplayed it a little bit.

00:29:25.000 He was just talking about, okay, we need to build up our security state.

00:29:28.000 And according to claims, they'll claim that he negotiated a ceasefire with these gangs or is working with them in some capacity.

00:29:36.000 And what's interesting is it seems like he might have been doing the Muhammad Ali Ropa Dope strat, where you let them lure them into a sense of security.

00:29:45.000 And then they angered them and they did kind of a killing spree.

00:29:48.000 And in one day, they shot more than 20 people.

00:29:51.000 Who did?

00:29:52.000 The gangs did in El Salvador.

00:29:53.000 And these are really awful gangs.

00:29:54.000 They're not even drug cartels. 0.95

00:29:56.000 It's the worst trashy extortion racket, protection money stuff. 0.95

00:30:01.000 Just they terrorize everyone and it's awful. 0.85

00:30:03.000 And so they do this stuff and they think the government is going to cow, be cowed like every other government has.

00:30:09.000 And instead, he just announces a state of emergency, which is still in place, actually, two years later.

00:30:15.000 And they just start rounding everyone up who's known to be in a gang.

00:30:19.000 And it's kind of easy to tell.

00:30:20.000 They have all these tattoos that make them quite identifiable.

00:30:23.000 And he arrests 1% of the entire Salvadoran population.

00:30:28.000 One in every hundred people just grab them, take them away. 0.87

00:30:32.000 And they just, it's really amazing what they've done.

00:30:36.000 They've done stuff that I think we would agree.

00:30:38.000 We would actually not want a lot of this done in the U.S. because it is really over the top.

00:30:43.000 But when you're in a country, when you have the murder rate of El Salvador, it's like you're in a war.

00:30:48.000 You probably have a in the worst.

00:30:50.000 It's worse than living in Chicago. 1.00

00:30:51.000 Or it's worse than living in Ukraine. 0.86

00:30:54.000 And it was just so encompassing. 0.99

00:30:58.000 Every part of their society was so bad.

00:31:00.000 And he just said, no, this is not acceptable.

00:31:02.000 You can't have all these other things.

00:31:04.000 You can't, frankly, he's like, we have to roll back due process.

00:31:08.000 Due process is a privilege you can have when you're not in a state of war.

00:31:11.000 And we think of that with actual wars.

00:31:13.000 Habeas corpus was suspended during the Civil War.

00:31:15.000 Exactly. 0.74

00:31:15.000 Or just our rules of fire in a state of war is not the same as we don't arrest every single guy in the Taliban and put them on trial before we decide that you're allowed to shoot at them. 0.74

00:31:25.000 And it was like that. 0.70

00:31:26.000 And it was just this radical step.

00:31:27.000 And so their murder rate went from one of the worst in the world to now it's lower than America's.

00:31:32.000 Bukele at CPAC.

00:31:34.000 It's pretty remarkable stuff.

00:31:35.000 Play cut 138.

00:31:36.000 The disease that had begun with mild symptoms got worse and worse.

00:31:42.000 It became a cancer that seemed incurable.

00:31:47.000 We are already seeing these symptoms in the United States.

00:31:50.000 Big cities in decline, like Baltimore, Portland, New York, just to name a few.

00:31:55.000 Places where crime and drugs have become the daily norm and even accepted and promoted by the government.

00:32:03.000 And so, what does Soros have to do with all this?

00:32:08.000 He was pumping in money through NGOs or something.

00:32:11.000 Well, so Soros does this open societies thing that he does in every country where he funds his vision of an open society.

00:32:18.000 And we've seen in the U.S. what that's like.

00:32:20.000 It's always be very soft on crime, be very indulgent of criminals because I guess deep down, it's like if we aren't really indulgent of criminals, then like Hitler comes back. 0.59

00:32:32.000 And in reality, it's the exact opposite.

00:32:34.000 The only way you'd ever get something like that is an enormous backlash to this sort of chaos.

00:32:39.000 And I think to Bukele's credit, he just said this is not how anyone wants to live in their country.

00:32:45.000 We are going to crack down on it.

00:32:47.000 And then once you do that, you can have all the other nice parts of living in a free country.

00:32:52.000 It's just you cannot allow thug terrorist monsters to destroy everything.

00:32:57.000 El Salvadorian citizens used to flee to America. 0.96

00:33:00.000 Now the MS-13 gangs flee to America.

00:33:02.000 Yeah.

00:33:03.000 The opposite.

00:33:03.000 And we let them all in, of course.

00:33:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:04.000 No.

00:33:05.000 And by the way, that's why we're seeing our murder rate go up, our rape rate go up, our arson rate, you know, armed robbery break in.

00:33:11.000 The message has gone out to the entire planet that America is just.

00:33:14.000 It's a dumping ground.

00:33:15.000 It's a dumping ground.

00:33:16.000 It's open season.

00:33:17.000 Just imagine what they must say on websites that are not in English.

00:33:22.000 Where they'll say, oh, you can go to America.

00:33:24.000 Just walk in. 0.76

00:33:25.000 They'll let you in. 1.00

00:33:26.000 They'll give you asylum. 0.62

00:33:26.000 Oh, you can join this program in New York that gives you $15,000 a year. 0.62

00:33:30.000 Just say the right things.

00:33:31.000 No one's going to check.

00:33:32.000 You don't need to pay taxes.

00:33:34.000 No one's actually checking that either.

00:33:36.000 And you can just commit crime after crime after crime, rob people's homes.

00:33:40.000 The police are totally overmatched.

00:33:42.000 It's just, it is like America's a giant.

00:33:44.000 We're like Smog's treasure horde in that Hobbit movie that wasn't very good.

00:33:48.000 And everyone's grabbing their take.

00:33:50.000 Blake, excellent work today.

00:33:51.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:54.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:33:55.000 Everybody, email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:58.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 23, 2024

The Rise of Independent Media — and the Fall of the Old

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