00:00:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:32.000Buy for your office for $5,000 at Lululemon.
00:03:35.000Yeah, but I mean, let me just take a pause here, Jennifer.
00:03:37.000I mean, we run a pretty sizable organization here, and we have a very strict finance department where if it's not down to receipt, business purpose, it doesn't get expensed.
00:03:58.000I asked, do you guys have a manual I can look at, some kind of policy and procedure thing?
00:04:03.000Because I work for Salem that owns Red State.
00:04:07.000I have a very strict policy that I, of what I can expense and what has to be turned in.
00:04:13.000And they said there's no policy book that they could give me, that everything the RNC members didn't even have this detail unless they look at the FEC filings because it all goes through Ronna McDaniel's office.
00:04:27.000Okay, so what were some, what were some of the other, let's just say, eye-opening revelations that you discovered in your research?
00:04:36.000So the one that was the most eye-opening to me as far as the dollar amount was $17 million on donor mementos.
00:04:45.000I mean, so their response, so the RNC's response is, well, the White House wanted this and we paid for it, which my response is, tell them hell no.
00:05:45.000Then, you know, $750,000 on floral arrangements.
00:05:49.000And so I do need to clarify: none of these expenditures within my report are for fundraising events because there's a separate category for the expenses for, because you know, Attorney Point does events.
00:06:03.000How can you even have an accurate breakdown of the success of your event if you don't have all of your expenses listed?
00:06:09.000So if these are indeed supposed to be from donor events or fundraisers, the fact that they're misclassified just shows terrible business management and no way to have any accountability of any of the event planners or anything.
00:06:23.000I mean, okay, so let's just go to the flower.
00:06:24.000The flower thing, I think it's the smoking gun, like the flower gate.
00:06:28.000I mean, $750,000 in flowers since 2017, $321,000 with flowers during an election cycle.
00:06:42.000Jennifer, let's pretend we are the spokespeople for the RNC, which, by the way, in their response to your article, they conveniently didn't mention the flowers at all.
00:06:54.000They just or any of the expenses, really.
00:06:56.000Yeah, I mean, some of it they danced around, but the flowers they didn't acknowledge.
00:07:00.000What would be the best, most reasonable argument you and I could make if we were criminal defense attorneys for the RNC to spend $321,000 on flowers?
00:07:11.000That they were buying it for the party's funeral?
00:07:16.000That's rather, that's rather cruel, but accurate.
00:07:18.000So, yeah, I mean, maybe they would say they're sending them to donors that passed away, of which my response is you shouldn't do that, send them a card, maybe go to the funeral, but party money shouldn't be spent on flowers.
00:07:32.000Was this money spent on flower arrangements at the office?
00:07:45.000So no way to really tell unless they open up the books and show everything, which I think everyone kind of wants to see at this point.
00:07:53.000I mean, because they also had $80,000 in alcohol-related expenditures, and some of that was Drizzly, which is a delivery service for alcohol.
00:09:11.000Like, why do you need all of this in your office?
00:09:15.000$25,000 on Commonwealth Joe coffee, which could be very good.
00:09:20.000But from what I've heard from people that go in and out of the RNC building, when they go into a break room, there's a Keurig and K-cups and plastic or you know, foam coffee cups.
00:09:30.000So they're wondering where this is going.
00:09:33.000They spent thousands, tens of thousands of dollars at REI classified as office expenses.
00:09:40.000I don't know how you spend tens of thousands of dollars at REI.
00:09:43.000By definition, REI is a recreational outdoors store.
00:10:25.000Every dollar that goes to the RNC needs to be preciously spent.
00:10:29.000When Carl Rove ran the RNC, he got mad when he saw any flowers and he only catered Chick-fil-A and very, very low-cost expenditure, like very just kind of reasonable expenditures.
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00:13:12.000A client of Harmeet Dylan decided to publish a hit piece in the middle of the night without making a serious attempt to engage with the RNC committee woman Daniel's team.
00:13:21.000This blog post is as blatantly false as the lie she's been spreading about the RNC members are being bribed for their votes.
00:13:27.000If critics want to misrepresent and push false narratives of the RNC spending this past cycle, they should do the math and realize it only adds up to 8.8% of the total amount the chairwoman raised.
00:13:39.000So raised versus spent are two different figures because they spent, for example, at Turning Point USA, 6% of our money is on fundraising expenses.
00:13:52.000If I told my team to spend 25%, I could raise three times as much money.
00:13:57.000Now, but the margin wouldn't make any sense.
00:13:59.000And it would also not be in our best interest because we want to spend our money on programming at Turning Point USA.
00:14:04.000I'd rather spend our money on starting chapters, hosting events, training pastors, Turning Point Academy, curriculum, all this sort of stuff, not just being a fundraising operation, right?
00:14:14.000So what do you have to say to the RNC's statement here?
00:14:18.000Well, I mean, first, they're also a client of Harmeet Dylan.
00:14:23.000And I had noted that in the piece from the start that Harmeet Dylan has represented me when Katie Hill sued me and that I have endorsed Harmeet within that race.
00:15:27.000Tell us why you took all of your senior staff and their plus ones first class to Vegas and back and rented a private box at an NFL game for $30,000, paid for all their lodging, food, alcohol.
00:15:42.000The alcohol sticks out to me because, I mean, we all know that people drink when you, especially if you go on a business trip, but Salem doesn't pay for our alcohol ever, ever.
00:15:53.000Yeah, I mean, we I'm pretty hawkish about that around here.
00:15:58.000At turning point, let's, but I mean, it's, it's the RNC, so I mean, they have a reputation uphold as far as how much they drink.
00:16:05.000So, I mean, look, but let's just say, I'm going to just, I really want to just focus on some of the top line figures here because I mean, like, some of the stuff, you know, you have a whistleblower, right, on some of this.
00:16:19.000They say that the Vegas trip was wasteful and all that stuff.
00:16:22.000But, I mean, I do not understand where the spin could come from of $381,000 for furniture expenses.
00:16:33.000Like, it's one thing if you are an institution.
00:16:37.000Let's just say if we were to go to the financials of an organization that I appreciate or I enjoy, that's like a college, like Hillsdale College.
00:16:49.000Meaning that the RNC has to act with urgency and with precision.
00:16:54.000And they are the only organization that is allowed to share data, that's allowed to represent the party, that could coordinate with campaigns.
00:17:01.000With this $6 million of wasteful spending that I identified just in this piece, we probably could have won the Nevada Senate seat.
00:17:19.000I understand at times you got to do retreats, you got to do staff training.
00:17:23.000There is no explanation to spend nearly a million dollars on flowers and $17 million on donor gifts that could have been spent to win us the Senate.
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00:18:39.000You also really were the pioneer of building turning point and doing all that.
00:18:44.000Could you understand a university would spend $700,000 in flowers?
00:18:48.000So I read this and because another member sent it to me last night, you know, that obviously is a big Harmeat fan and a big, you know, a big change maker.
00:18:59.000And I read this and I said to you very quickly and I was like, hey, how much have we ever spent on private planes?
00:19:43.000And the private jet thing aside, if you're doing a lot of work and you're traveling and you got to, you know, have long days, there could be an argument for that.
00:19:48.000So you put, I haven't even focused on that.
00:19:50.000Or like a donor might come to you and say, hey, we have to, we want to provide this for you.
00:19:54.000It's hard to slap, like, knock a gift horse in the mouth.
00:19:56.000Or it's like, hey, I got like three events I got to do and I'm going to raise $5 million and I have to go to Malibu.
00:20:01.000I got to go to San Francisco and Seattle.
00:20:03.000You're not going to fly Alaskan Airlines.
00:20:33.000So basically, it's buying, like the entire office booze every, and that's again.
00:20:41.000The point is not the, even the dollar amount.
00:20:44.000The point is a culture thing right, which is like you have to have.
00:20:47.000The culture has to be at the R C. In my opinion and this is I brought this up with chairman chairwoman Mcdaniel too, was that I didn't.
00:20:55.000I don't feel like the culture at the, at the R AND C, is where it could be, and I say that to you all the time about attorney, i'm constantly focused on we've got to make sure that we work together, that we we do, we you build a relationship, you build a family, but that you're operating so that donors trust that every dollar that you're spending is the most effective dollar, that you've ever spent.
00:21:16.00017 million dollars in donor mementos that that's like mind-blowing to me.
00:21:20.000You know we got an email today from from one of the members who's on the budget committee, saying, you look, a lot of this money was spent.
00:21:30.000So we read their statement, I think, and then you tell them no and you say no yeah, how about you go have the Super PACK, go pay for it, because they can do unlimited donations and they can't coordinate well, this is the point that's made in the story that Jennifer makes and I know she was on earlier but um, is that the comparison between what the RNC has spent on these things versus what the DNC has spent is is astronomically.
00:22:17.000We do all that um, because members of the RNC and again I want to make this very clear, the members my colleagues on the RNC are are not the enemy right, this is, these are individuals who pay out of pocket to go do these things in most cases.
00:22:31.000But does that mean that we can't be better?
00:22:34.000Certainly, it certainly can, and and that's why I think changing leadership every once in a while is okay, it's good, it's healthy, mixing this up, this is not a trajectory that is going to be successful for the Republican National Committee to to continue, and Michael Steele, when he was chair, Was accused of a lot of this stuff, right?
00:22:53.000Of using the RNC for private plane travel, for black car service, for all these things.
00:22:59.000And this stuff is happening and it just shouldn't, you know?
00:23:02.000And so I actually think that the chairwoman should take some ownership here and say, look, you know, some of the stuff is not okay.
00:23:26.000I can tell you right now, and I think, Charlie, this is what you're saying, and I'm echoing it.
00:23:31.000As a person who has helped run an organization here that is a caretaker of donor money and is spending it effectively, there's not a lot of excuses for these things.
00:23:52.000Then I want to bring Blake Masters in.
00:23:54.000A little bit longer than I planned on this, but the RNC has to be so preciously careful with their money because the RNC can't raise unlimited $750 per person.
00:24:28.000The RNC is the function, if it's used correctly, is the difference maker in a lot of these races and a lot of the in our success.
00:24:37.000And the Democrats have figured this out.
00:24:39.000And again, if we don't take it very seriously, then you're going to end up in a scenario where we kind of currently are, which is we're not doing everything that we should be doing with donor money.
00:24:49.000And by the way, donors right now are looking at this.
00:25:01.000Okay, I want to welcome Blake Masters here, who should be going to the Senate in January.
00:25:05.000Blake, could you have used $17 million that was otherwise spent on ornaments that people lost or threw away or discarded in your Senate race against Mark Kelly?
00:25:14.000I would have loved $17 more million dollars, but I agree with what a lot of Tyler is saying.
00:25:19.000I think we should all be able to agree, right, that every dollar spent is spent in the most efficacious way possible.
00:25:29.000I think a lot of the committee members are going to have questions.
00:25:33.000And, you know, Rana should be up for talking about them.
00:25:36.000I know and like Harmeet, I know and like Rana.
00:25:39.000And I think we can all agree that no matter who's in leadership, we have to maybe do some belt tightening and we have to make sure that when donors give money, right, it goes into the field.
00:25:51.000I'm okay with whatever strategy maximizes the amount of money that we're actually putting into field, that we're putting into campaigns.
00:25:57.000But I think we got to be fair-minded about it.
00:25:59.000Sometimes you guys know this, sometimes it does take money to raise money.
00:26:29.000We do events at nice places and we raise money there, but it's also the question of why is it that you then spent $17 million on donor mementos?
00:26:39.000And are you a fundraising operation or are you here to win elections?
00:26:43.000Because they and to Tyler's point, I think, you know, everybody can agree we need a culture change.
00:26:50.000And I think people should be interviewing Rana about this.
00:26:52.000And I think Harmeet's job is it's incumbent on her to get out there and say, here's how I would change the culture, right?
00:26:58.000And so I just want to make myself available and help do that because I agree with you.
00:27:02.000This party needs to get more grassroots.
00:27:04.000We need donors to know that their money is being well spent and we need to start winning elections.
00:27:32.000This is at the local level, but this is also at the national level.
00:27:36.000We have to have leadership that people can believe in and trust.
00:27:39.000And what I loved about Blake's run here in Arizona and why it was so refreshing to have Blake as our nominee for Senate here was it was totally different, totally new face.
00:27:50.000It wasn't the same old revolving door, same old, same old politician.
00:27:55.000It was, you know, here's a young dad who cares about his state, who's from here.
00:28:00.000You know, and I think there's some the genuine feel nature of that is really what's really important to the Republican Party.
00:28:08.000So, Blake, let me just ask you: you know, what do you think are the biggest takeaways from your race that we can apply immediately towards victory in 24?
00:28:26.000We raised 11 million, I think, hard dollars.
00:28:29.000It wasn't enough, but it was really hard.
00:28:31.000You know, next time if I run, I'll raise more, but we need outside money.
00:28:34.000And I needed one of two things, maybe both.
00:28:37.000We needed either a red wave to take out an incumbent astronaut, right?
00:28:41.000We didn't get the red wave, or I needed establishment support.
00:28:44.000And we didn't get that from the Senate leadership fund and from Mitch McConnell.
00:28:48.000And, you know, that I think, I think we fought hard in a tough year, but ultimately, Mark Kelly spent six or seven times the hard dollars that I spent.
00:28:59.000And he just made me unlikable by nuking me on TV, right?
00:29:02.000So we got to solve our fundraising problem.
00:29:04.000We also, I knew that we were in trouble statewide as soon as I think 8 p.m. Tuesday night, election day, as soon as we saw the early voting results, right?
00:29:12.000The Democrats get banked about 50% more votes than our models suggested.
00:29:17.000They've perfected this art of early voting, of ballot harvesting.
00:29:21.000And again, ballot harvesting is technically illegal in Arizona.
00:29:25.000I think they probably still do it a lot.
00:29:27.000We need to go right up to that line and be aggressive.
00:29:30.000We won't do anything illegal, but we need to become the party of technology and the party of early voting.
00:29:34.000I think we solve that and our fundraising gap will start winning elections.
00:29:37.000Look, I'm not trying to rein on too much of the parade, but you know who was telling us those models?
00:29:59.000We need to trounce the Democrats on tech, but we're a couple of years behind, to be honest.
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00:31:15.000I'm not shocked, but the timing was surprising, right?
00:31:17.000You never expect to wake up to that news.
00:31:20.000I sort of think that Schumer and Cinema either have or will make a deal and that they will box out a Democrat like Ruben Gallego from running, and Schumer will support cinema.
00:31:31.000That to me is still the most plausible thing because I don't think they want to throw away a Senate seat.
00:31:37.000And if you get Gallego in there, I mean, I'm hoping Gallego challenges cinema and we have a three-way Senate race and we'll win that Senate race.
00:31:43.000Republicans, you know, maybe I'll run for that.
00:31:45.000I don't know, but I think the Republican candidate would win that Senate race in 2024.
00:32:02.000I mean, there is some like really house of cards-y stuff that's going around DC that they're expecting Kamala to step down and that Kamala will get replaced by somebody else in anticipation that Biden, who's the who's the president, is respected enough where it's his decision whether or not he wants to run again.
00:32:22.000And every conversation is he doesn't want to run again, but nobody wants Kamala to run.
00:32:27.000And she would automatically be put in the best position.
00:32:29.000So the Democrat establishment is saying, we got to figure out a solution here because the country has not been benefited by your leadership.
00:32:41.000We're going to replace you with someone else.
00:32:43.000And hey, Kamala, if you want to run for president because Biden decides not to, that's fine.
00:32:46.000But we want someone else to have the benefit of the vice presidency.
00:32:50.000And if it was a three-way race, Blake, in a strange way, it would actually de-emphasize Maricopa County and it would actually overly emphasize Yava Pie and some of the rules, wouldn't it?
00:33:01.000Not that Maricopa wouldn't matter, but I mean, Gallego and Cinema theoretically would be battling for downtown Phoenix, Chandler, and Mesa.
00:33:11.000It would become Maricopa County would become blue, cinema ring, and then the red ring around, right?
00:33:52.000I think they look at her as the Obama in a skirt.
00:33:56.000Look, I got to tell you, when she was going straight to camera saying, I think a lot of Americans don't fit in a political box, some consultant is really helping her there because she's reading the room really well.
00:34:06.000And if cinema does want to run in a three-way race, it must mean she's lined up ungodly amounts of sort of centrist billionaire money like Bloomberg or Howard Schultz or whatever.
00:34:18.000I think Americans don't feel like they fit in a political box right now, but the opportunity that we have is to rebuild the Republican Party, right?
00:34:25.000Become the party of the working class, the party of the middle class, the party of the family.
00:34:29.000For so long, the Republican Party has not been that.
00:34:32.000For maybe just as long, the Democratic Party has not been that, right?