The Charlie Kirk Show - The SHOCKING and Untold Story of How a Big Tech Billionaire Bought the Election

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00:02:46.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:47.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:49.000 Super thrilled to be joined today by Philip Klein, who served as the district attorney and Kansas Attorney General.

00:02:57.000 He is currently the director of the Amistad Project of the Thomas Morris Society and a professor at Liberty University.

00:03:05.000 He has been investigating voter fraud for nearly two years.

00:03:08.000 So while we're now just talking about it, he's been on the case for a while.

00:03:12.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:03:14.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:03:15.000 Appreciate what you do, and it's an honor to be here.

00:03:17.000 Thank you.

00:03:18.000 So why don't you just give us a snapshot of where we are right now with election integrity, some of these pending lawsuits, and something we might be missing when it comes to the fight against voter fraud?

00:03:29.000 Sure.

00:03:30.000 And let me start with the fact is we've had an unprecedented election with unprecedented private interference in the election process.

00:03:40.000 And if I were to sum that up real quickly, Charlie, it means that America was kicked out of the counting room.

00:03:46.000 You know, all these laws allow us to be inside to see how the count is done, to make sure it's done fairly.

00:03:52.000 Instead, we got boarded up windows.

00:03:54.000 And the shocker is we have a billionaire in the counting room.

00:03:58.000 Mark Zuckerberg invested over $400 million that he funneled through charities that actually paid the election officials who are determining what ballots to count and what ballots to receive.

00:04:12.000 So a billionaire in, America out.

00:04:16.000 And that is a strong concern.

00:04:18.000 Well, moving from there, we saw unprecedented changes in the election process.

00:04:23.000 We created a two-tier election system.

00:04:27.000 In Democrat strongholds, for example, in Pennsylvania, they took flawed ballots.

00:04:33.000 They called Democrat officials and said, go get the voter and fix these ballots.

00:04:38.000 Republican strongholds, they didn't do that.

00:04:40.000 They saw it as against the law.

00:04:42.000 They didn't have the resources.

00:04:44.000 So here you've got Democrat ballots being fixed, Republican ballots not.

00:04:49.000 We go to Michigan, in Michigan.

00:04:51.000 What they're actually doing in the counting center, Charlie, is let's take our military ballots.

00:04:57.000 It's a good example.

00:04:58.000 Our military ballots are mailed well before the regular ballots are printed.

00:05:03.000 So they're on a different kind of paper and they can't be read by the machines.

00:05:08.000 And so what they did in Detroit is they stacked them all up and they got five people called inspectors around a table and then they cast the vote for our military.

00:05:19.000 They completed a pristine ballot saying, I think this person voted for Biden.

00:05:24.000 They fill it out, they cast it and counted it.

00:05:28.000 The law requires a Republican in that place to be able to see this.

00:05:34.000 But what they did is they said, well, the law says a Republican needs to be in the place.

00:05:40.000 So what they did is they moved it from the small five people at a table room and they created a giant warehouse with 134 tables.

00:05:50.000 They put the Republican in the cheap seats so he couldn't see or she couldn't see anything.

00:05:56.000 They said, a Republican's in the place.

00:05:58.000 And only Democrats counted and actually cast votes for third parties who aren't there.

00:06:05.000 This happened in all these urban core centers where Zuckerberg money flowed.

00:06:11.000 And on top of that, you've got, we call them Zuckerboxes.

00:06:16.000 They're the drop boxes that popped up in all the cities where you could go by and drop your ballot in.

00:06:24.000 Those drop boxes were not monitored.

00:06:27.000 They weren't watched.

00:06:28.000 We have no logs of who picked up the ballots and how they brought them into the center.

00:06:33.000 And we have evidence that third parties gained access to the poll books so that they could alter ballots.

00:06:41.000 So there's a lot of evidence out there.

00:06:44.000 There's a lot of litigation still to go.

00:06:46.000 But quite honestly, we need to get to the bottom of this because this undermined the integrity of the 2020 election and we can't let it happen again.

00:06:56.000 So it's really hard for certain people to comprehend the enormity of what you're saying.

00:07:01.000 Who was actually calling the shots?

00:07:03.000 Because there's consistencies between Atlanta and Philadelphia and Detroit and Milwaukee.

00:07:11.000 Who is actually behind a lot of these counties acting in such similar fashions?

00:07:15.000 Well, first of all, if you're going to do something like that, you've got to fund it.

00:07:19.000 And the $400 million, you know, generally the person with the money kind of calls the shots, or at least is in on the inside.

00:07:27.000 And his money matches what the federal government spent on elections.

00:07:31.000 But I think a lot of it is, if you go to March of 2020, you have a gentleman by the name of David Plouff.

00:07:40.000 He was President Obama's campaign manager.

00:07:43.000 He's now working for Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan.

00:07:47.000 And he writes a book called The Citizen's Guide to Defeating Donald Trump.

00:07:52.000 And in that book, he says it's going to be a block-by-block street fight to turn out the vote in the urban core.

00:07:58.000 So what he does is he then, I believe, starts with this plan and he creates or helps a group that is also Obama activists that formed a group called Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:08:12.000 They start reaching out to cities and they're the flow of money.

00:08:16.000 So I think the brain is right in there that helped orchestrate this.

00:08:21.000 And it doesn't, it honestly doesn't take very many people.

00:08:26.000 You've got some blue state secretaries of state who allowed for people to be able to register people in our poll books.

00:08:34.000 And if I can register you, I can register other people as well.

00:08:39.000 So you can create voters that don't really exist and get them to vote.

00:08:44.000 And we're seeing evidence of that.

00:08:46.000 So, but I put it right with David Plouf and the operators of the Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:08:52.000 And some of what they did is not necessarily illegal, but it violates election law.

00:08:58.000 It's not a crime, but it violates election laws.

00:09:01.000 So Phil, can you help explain what the Center for Civic Life is, Center for Tech and Civic Life?

00:09:10.000 Who funded it?

00:09:11.000 Who founded it?

00:09:12.000 What was their direct involvement?

00:09:14.000 A lot of people are completely unaware of this.

00:09:17.000 Can you just go through as much detail as you have of their point of origination, their motives, their leadership, and how much money they actually put behind their effort?

00:09:27.000 Yeah, they were formed in around 2012, and they started small.

00:09:34.000 Actually, for all these years between 2012 and now, they were running about $750,000 a year.

00:09:42.000 And they were formed by three Obama activists whose social media is full of expletives as it relates to the president.

00:09:50.000 And they broke off from a partisan organization.

00:09:54.000 Now, they started reaching out to Democrat mayors in Democrat cities in about March at the same time that blue state governors were doing lockdowns and they were announcing they were going to prevent in-person voting, putting emphasis on mail-in voting.

00:10:11.000 And Charlie, you know that Republicans prefer to vote in person, Democrats prefer to vote by mail.

00:10:18.000 So this was a shutting down of opportunities that Republicans preferred to use to vote by mail.

00:10:25.000 CTCL through the years has been reaching out and establishing consultants.

00:10:32.000 They consult on how to manage an election.

00:10:35.000 Now, in about April or May, they start reaching out and recruiting Democrat cities saying, we want you to apply to us for a lot of money.

00:10:45.000 And they don't have that money yet.

00:10:47.000 There's no evidence they have the money yet, but somebody told them the money is coming.

00:10:52.000 So they get these Democrat mayors to recruit other Democrat cities based on two factors.

00:10:58.000 One is overwhelming Democrat voters.

00:11:02.000 So they want to turn out Democrat cities to vote in the presidential election.

00:11:07.000 The other is what's called an undervote.

00:11:09.000 That's where Hillary Clinton, Obama, received 400,000 votes.

00:11:15.000 Hillary Clinton received 300,000.

00:11:18.000 So they're thinking they can grab that difference and turn it to Biden.

00:11:22.000 So they are very strategic.

00:11:24.000 And they go out and they start recruiting these cities.

00:11:27.000 They give these cities money to apply for money from them, which they don't have yet.

00:11:33.000 So here's $10,000, and we'll help you put together a grant.

00:11:37.000 And then we're going to give you a lot of money.

00:11:40.000 It's coming.

00:11:41.000 On September 2nd, Mark Zuckerberg announces $250 million to the Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:11:50.000 He also gives 50 million to a group called the Center for Election Innovation and Research, CEIR.

00:12:01.000 They're involved in the software that runs our poll books.

00:12:06.000 So they have access to the poll books.

00:12:09.000 It would allow a hack from within, not a hack from without.

00:12:13.000 So now we've got $300 million of Zuckerberg money.

00:12:18.000 10 days later, he adds another $100 million.

00:12:22.000 So $400 million that we know of thus far.

00:12:26.000 Now, that money actually matches the federal appropriation for running the election during the pandemic.

00:12:34.000 So here's how he uses this money.

00:12:36.000 He gives it to cities.

00:12:38.000 And I'm going to take you into Philadelphia as an example.

00:12:42.000 We obtained documents that were ordered to be produced by a federal judge in Pennsylvania.

00:12:48.000 They wouldn't give us this information.

00:12:51.000 But the judge said, the city, you have to share with Mr. Klein and his group all your communications with this charity funded by Zuckerberg.

00:13:00.000 Here's what it says.

00:13:02.000 Philadelphia, you must have 800 polling places.

00:13:08.000 They had 190 in the primary.

00:13:11.000 So an increase of 610.

00:13:13.000 Now, he's claiming he's doing this to make elections safe, but he's creating additional opportunities to vote to turn out the vote.

00:13:21.000 You must have this many zucker boxes, drop boxes.

00:13:25.000 We're going to pay the election officials.

00:13:27.000 We're going to pay the election judges, the people who determine what ballots are counted and determine the count.

00:13:35.000 We will buy the machines that count the votes.

00:13:40.000 And you must do every step of this or we're going to take our money back.

00:13:45.000 He's running local elections.

00:13:48.000 So they do this in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and I'll give you an example of Delaware County.

00:13:55.000 That's just south of Philadelphia, strong Democrat stronghold.

00:13:59.000 There is a zucker box or a drop box, Charlie, every four square miles.

00:14:06.000 That's two miles by two miles.

00:14:08.000 That's a drop box within a walking distance of every home.

00:14:12.000 In the 59 counties that Trump won, there's a drop box for every 1,100 square miles.

00:14:21.000 Dropbox in Democrat territory, every 4,000 voters.

00:14:26.000 Trump country, every 72,000 voters.

00:14:31.000 So they shut down in-person polling, except in the urban core.

00:14:35.000 And then they told Republicans in Republican areas, if you want to vote, go on a Where's Waldo to find a drop box in 1,100 square miles.

00:14:45.000 If you're a Democrat, step out the door.

00:14:47.000 We'll pick up the ballot for you. 1.00

00:14:49.000 That's a two-tier election system that violates equal protection. 0.98

00:14:53.000 That's just a sampling of what we're seeing.

00:14:57.000 So this is very stunning.

00:14:59.000 I'm surprised that no one else is talking about this.

00:15:02.000 We did know about the Seneca Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:15:05.000 What I am trying to process, though, is you're trying to say that this was constructed well before Zuckerberg made that commitment, that they had this all in all this infrastructure in place and in play.

00:15:20.000 And this aligned perfectly with the mail-in balloting push that allowed a lot of this to be made possible.

00:15:27.000 On the Center for Tech and Civic Life on their website, they say their partners are Google, Facebook, the Center for Civic Design, Rock the Vote, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Knight Foundation, the Democracy Fund, the Voting Information Project, and the Women Donors Network, all of which are very far-left-wing funding mechanisms and organizations.

00:15:49.000 So is it legal to have big tech companies fund charitably, which is a tax deduction for them, in our elections?

00:15:57.000 Are there any laws against this?

00:15:59.000 Well, we believe that there are.

00:16:01.000 First of all, you can't privatize the election.

00:16:04.000 You can't have the election judges paid for by Google.

00:16:08.000 It is a fundamental government responsibility to do elections.

00:16:14.000 And the Constitution provides that responsibility directly to state legislatures who determine the time, place, and manner of elections.

00:16:23.000 Also, Congress has say in federal elections.

00:16:27.000 And they all have laws that were violated in the flow and use of these monies and in the method of conducting the elections.

00:16:36.000 So we clearly believe it's not legal.

00:16:39.000 The challenge with election law and challenging elections is to bring it to court, you have to prove harm.

00:16:47.000 And you can't prove the harm until after the election is done.

00:16:51.000 And then the laws give you a very short timeframe.

00:16:54.000 You know, in the past, what we've talked about in this country when the laws were written, Charlie, they were written for us looking at ballots and we challenged the count and say, you know what, you counted a ballot that shouldn't be counted.

00:17:07.000 Now we've got counting that can't be seen.

00:17:11.000 The windows were boarded up and we use machines.

00:17:14.000 I can't see in a machine.

00:17:16.000 I can look at a computer, but I can't tell how it's counting something.

00:17:20.000 I need the computer logs to know that it's doing it correctly and to know that it hasn't been messed with.

00:17:27.000 But they won't provide the logs.

00:17:29.000 They won't let us in the door. 1.00

00:17:32.000 What you're seeing here is what happens in third world countries where they don't, they say, look, don't worry about it. 1.00

00:17:41.000 You can stand outside the door.

00:17:42.000 There's no fraud going on in here.

00:17:44.000 Trust me.

00:17:45.000 That's not how American elections have worked.

00:17:48.000 They've been transparent in the past.

00:17:50.000 All of us are at the counting table.

00:17:52.000 We get to see and judge for ourselves whether it's done fairly.

00:17:57.000 And if there's one thing that I believe that your viewers will know about this election, they weren't able to see it.

00:18:05.000 That should be alarm bell number one.

00:18:08.000 Alarm bell number two is only one group of people were able to see it in these swing states in the urban core, and that's Democrats paid for by Zuckerberg.

00:18:19.000 That's alarm bell number three.

00:18:22.000 Alarm bell, the next, the third one is whether they had access to be able to generate and infuse false information into the system.

00:18:32.000 And the answer is yes.

00:18:34.000 Rock the Vote has a special contract where they're able to access government data and actually enter voter registrations.

00:18:42.000 Now, I'm going to give you an example.

00:18:45.000 And I really appreciate the time to explain this because they're betting that we won't get the time to explain it.

00:18:52.000 And they can just shout us out by saying, where's the proof?

00:18:54.000 Where's the proof?

00:18:55.000 Where's the proof?

00:18:56.000 Well, there is substantial proof.

00:18:58.000 This is an affidavit by a woman who teaches at Liberty University School of Law, one of my colleagues.

00:19:06.000 She was born with a specific name that her parents called her by a nickname as she grew up, so she changed her name.

00:19:14.000 So she has a different first name.

00:19:16.000 She left Michigan, got married, and she has a different last name.

00:19:20.000 But as this election takes place, she decides, I better check and see if I'm registered back in Michigan for any reason and whether I voted.

00:19:30.000 And she found that she is registered under her birth name and married name, and she never registered to vote under her birth name and her maiden name.

00:19:42.000 Now, how could that happen?

00:19:44.000 It's allowing third-party access to our voter rolls.

00:19:47.000 And then I can purchase out here all the information I need about you, Charlie.

00:19:54.000 So I know whether you've had a name change, whether you've moved, whether you've ever voted in your home state, what your address was, what your social security number is, what your phone number is.

00:20:06.000 I can get all that data and I can create a registration for you that you're likely never to check.

00:20:14.000 Because why do that?

00:20:15.000 You know where you're registered and who does that.

00:20:19.000 But we are getting hundreds of these issues.

00:20:22.000 People who didn't register suddenly being registered.

00:20:26.000 Well, actually, it's hundreds of thousands of problems here.

00:20:30.000 And that's what our experts are saying in our litigation.

00:20:34.000 People who hadn't voted who suddenly show up as voting.

00:20:38.000 People who sent in an absentee ballot, but it was not counted.

00:20:43.000 We're building all of that evidence.

00:20:46.000 So, number three is that they were able to see it because they had access and we didn't.

00:20:52.000 So you can't count what you can't see.

00:20:56.000 We got kicked out of the counting room.

00:20:58.000 They were brought in.

00:21:00.000 You can't steal what you can't find.

00:21:03.000 So they were brought in and they understand now how to steal it because they have access to data that we do not.

00:21:11.000 You can't buy what you can't afford.

00:21:13.000 That's Mark Zuckerberg's money.

00:21:15.000 He helped afford this so it would happen.

00:21:19.000 And then the last one is that I want to mention is you can't promise what you can't deliver.

00:21:24.000 And that means that they had to infuse these ballots into the process.

00:21:28.000 And they did it by using the flow of ballots from Zuckerboxes, the drop boxes.

00:21:34.000 Where are the logs of who had access?

00:21:36.000 Who had the keys?

00:21:38.000 When were the ballots picked up?

00:21:39.000 Did the trucks take a side route?

00:21:42.000 And you have to understand these ballots are printed privately.

00:21:45.000 It is private companies that print these ballots.

00:21:48.000 So the technology and the ability to print these ballots is known to these groups.

00:21:53.000 So it's very easy to infuse fraudulent ballots into the system that they created.

00:22:01.000 I have so many questions about this.

00:22:03.000 And mostly, how is there not a federal investigation from the FBI into this?

00:22:07.000 It's just stunning to me.

00:22:08.000 Well, we don't know if there's not.

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00:23:50.000 Just to make sure I'm getting this correctly, there is a non-a collection of nonprofits that were founded mysteriously eight years ago that were not very well funded.

00:24:01.000 These nonprofits then start to kind of emerge towards the surface over the summer and start to make promises to local cities or ask them, ask these cities in Democrat areas in particular, start applying for grants.

00:24:13.000 Despite not having the funding, Zuckerberg then says, here's $250 million to this Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:24:24.000 And then they start distributing the money to these cities to administer the mail-in ballot scheme.

00:24:32.000 And so they say this on their website.

00:24:34.000 The Center for Tech and Civic Life has been thrilled to expand our COVID-19 response grant program to all U.S. local election jurisdictions, backed by a generous $250 million contribution.

00:24:47.000 CTCL received grant applications from over 2,500 local election jurisdictions across the country to help ensure they have the staffing, training, and equipment necessary.

00:24:57.000 So this November, every eligible voter can participate in a safe and timely way and have their vote counted.

00:25:03.000 So if I was CTCL's attorney, which I'm not and I'm not an attorney, any challenge that I would say would be put against us, they say we're a nonpartisan group.

00:25:16.000 We are just helping administer not very well-resourced election departments because the pandemic we're supplementing.

00:25:22.000 We're a charity.

00:25:24.000 You should be thanking us, not accusing us.

00:25:26.000 Why is there more to the story than that?

00:25:28.000 Well, there's a lot more.

00:25:29.000 And first of all, the total is up to 350 million now.

00:25:33.000 And the reason it's a lot more is they didn't do it on their own.

00:25:38.000 They bought government offices and told them how to manage the elections.

00:25:42.000 And you can't have government putting a thumb on the scale of the election.

00:25:46.000 And you can't have them beholden to private interests in managing the election.

00:25:51.000 And also, their design is real clear.

00:25:54.000 Although they need to provide more information, Charlie, if it was government, we'd have freedom of information requests.

00:26:00.000 You'd be able to see their books.

00:26:01.000 You'd be able to see why they made the decisions.

00:26:04.000 But I'll give you a couple of examples here.

00:26:06.000 We traced their top 20 grants in dollars.

00:26:10.000 It was over $75 million, $75 million.

00:26:14.000 And $289,000 went to a city that Donald Trump won in 2016.

00:26:24.000 The rest of it, I don't know what that percentage is, 75 million minus 289,000 went to Democrat strongholds.

00:26:31.000 So, and also remember, they seeded the money.

00:26:33.000 They put the money into Democrat areas to recruit Democrat cities.

00:26:38.000 Early money is worth a lot more than money in October because you can't infuse it, you can't plan for it, you can't use it.

00:26:46.000 And so, as they started getting pressure from us, we started to reveal their hand.

00:26:50.000 They put out a few grants here and there to Republican areas to try to make it look bipartisan.

00:26:56.000 I'll give you an example of their arguments.

00:26:58.000 Pennsylvania, we sued them in Pennsylvania.

00:27:02.000 They said, Look, we gave to more Republican counties than Clinton counties. 1.00

00:27:07.000 Well, that is factually correct.

00:27:10.000 President Trump won 59 counties in Pennsylvania in 2016, and they gave to 13 of those counties.

00:27:18.000 That's about 20%.

00:27:20.000 Clinton won eight counties in Pennsylvania, and they gave substantially more monies to every one of those counties: 100% Clinton, 20% Trump.

00:27:32.000 So here's the issue: $400 million shadow government.

00:27:37.000 Do Americans have a right to know about the communications, how the plan came out, and what happened?

00:27:42.000 Absolutely.

00:27:43.000 So open up your books.

00:27:44.000 Mark Zuckerberg opened up the door.

00:27:47.000 We want to see all the communication.

00:27:49.000 We want to see how you made your decisions.

00:27:51.000 We have a right to see it because you made government carry your water for you.

00:27:57.000 And if it was government doing it, we'd have a right to open their books.

00:28:00.000 We'd have a right to have hearings.

00:28:02.000 We'd have a right to know why they made the decisions they made.

00:28:06.000 But because he funneled it, he laundered it through a charity, they're claiming, no, we don't have to show a thing to you.

00:28:13.000 Well, and one of the main reasons I think the tech companies and the data companies did this is they were trying to atone for their guilt that they felt in 2016 for not adequately stopping Donald Trump and the punishment that they've had to endure from all of their friends in Menlo Park and in Silicon Valley who have been saying, how dare you not get involved in this?

00:28:37.000 And so it makes a lot of sense, this sudden cash infusion towards the end.

00:28:41.000 So what are the remedies for this?

00:28:43.000 Because I hope everyone is hearing this clearly, how creepy this is.

00:28:47.000 This is a oligarchy of tech billionaires, not just billionaires.

00:28:51.000 It would be bad enough they were billionaires.

00:28:54.000 These are 11-figure net worths, okay?

00:28:56.000 This is more than just having a billion dollars.

00:28:58.000 Zuckerberg is worth $110 billion, okay?

00:29:01.000 That's the combined GDP of Eastern European countries.

00:29:05.000 And so he unchecked is able to put this money through the Center for Tech and Civic Life, through this other one, the Center for Election and Innovation and Research.

00:29:13.000 He bragged that he got 4 million people registered to vote through this push.

00:29:18.000 What is the remedy for this?

00:29:20.000 Well, I'll take one.

00:29:21.000 We need all of America to wake up to it.

00:29:23.000 And in perspective, and you did a great job of explaining it, Charlie.

00:29:28.000 Let me just add this point.

00:29:31.000 65% of Americans get their news from podcasts like yours and social media.

00:29:37.000 And if you want to control a country, if you want to really manage a country, you have to choke off or have the authority to control the flow of information, right?

00:29:50.000 So we see big tech censorship, and you also have to control the way they elect their leaders.

00:29:58.000 Those are two things that you have to get if you're wanting control of a nation.

00:30:03.000 And guess what we've seen in an unprecedented fashion over the last couple of years?

00:30:09.000 I am shocked that we have people like Mark Zuckerberg and others who are in the business of the flow of information telling us, like Twitter and those, that we can't be trusted to figure out the truth.

00:30:25.000 They need to filter it first.

00:30:27.000 Don't worry.

00:30:29.000 There's nothing wrong with what we're doing.

00:30:31.000 It's fair.

00:30:32.000 Trust us.

00:30:33.000 And now we've got an election where they shut down our ability to access it and they say, don't worry about it.

00:30:39.000 Everything's fine.

00:30:41.000 Trust us.

00:30:42.000 I'm sorry.

00:30:43.000 That does not work in a federal republic and a democratic system.

00:30:48.000 The free flow of information and the transparency of elections are the cornerstones of the power of the people.

00:30:56.000 And they have stolen it from us this election.

00:30:59.000 And that should concern every American.

00:31:02.000 And I'm afraid that they're going to get away with it.

00:31:05.000 And there's many other questions I have.

00:31:07.000 I like that you're focusing on the Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:31:12.000 I like it because no one else is talking about it.

00:31:14.000 And I can go through the absentee issues and all this, but this seems to be one of the few things that were different in our election.

00:31:22.000 This particular actor, would you agree?

00:31:25.000 Because the mail and balloting issue is very important.

00:31:28.000 There were 240,000 ballots in Georgia in 2016, well over 1.3 million this cycle.

00:31:36.000 That's a tenfold increase.

00:31:38.000 What you're saying, though, is that this tech oligarchy had an agenda.

00:31:43.000 They executed it.

00:31:45.000 It was against any form of federal election law.

00:31:49.000 And if you dare ask questions about it, they shut you down almost instantaneously and immediately.

00:31:54.000 So, what pending legal action do you have against these groups?

00:31:57.000 What do you have that's working its way through the courts that could possibly fix this?

00:32:01.000 Well, we have suits in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

00:32:05.000 We have also suits that they won't fix this election, but we have them in Texas and Iowa regarding the use of monies.

00:32:14.000 We have Michigan.

00:32:17.000 My goodness, we're getting ready to file in Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia as it relates to all of these election irregularities and Zuckerberg's influence on the election.

00:32:28.000 And I will tell you this, Charlie.

00:32:30.000 I hope to have the opportunity to continue working with you and others.

00:32:34.000 We don't intend to stop.

00:32:35.000 If we can't bring the truth about this election out in time to impact this election, it's too important of an issue to stop with.

00:32:46.000 So, we continue and will continue to investigate and bring information to light.

00:32:52.000 So, what entity is suing whom and what is the complaint?

00:32:56.000 What we have done is we've created and worked with grassroots organizations.

00:33:02.000 So, we work with voters out there.

00:33:05.000 We have the Election Integrity Fund in Michigan, the Pennsylvania Voters Alliance, the Wisconsin Voters Alliance, Minnesota Voters Alliance, and we work with them and bring suits in those individuals' names.

00:33:19.000 The remedy is a violation of equal protection and invalidating the election in some of these cities and states.

00:33:27.000 That's the legal remedy we're seeking.

00:33:30.000 It varies, for example, we're going to be filing in Michigan, where we can go straight to the Michigan Supreme Court and ask them to seize the ballots and stop the count.

00:33:41.000 I don't know if we'll be successful, but that remedy will allow a full-scale audit and investigation.

00:33:47.000 We have varying remedies depending upon the state, and we're filing in federal court and state court to try to maximize our opportunity to avail ourselves of those various remedies.

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00:35:00.000 And it seems as if the sequence of lawsuits you guys are going through very well might prove to be successful.

00:35:11.000 But if it is a violation of equal protection, wouldn't that be better suited for the Department of Justice under the Civil Rights Division to be looking at?

00:35:20.000 I mean, this is not an insignificant sum.

00:35:22.000 It's not like it was $2 million here.

00:35:25.000 I mean, $250 million is an extraordinary amount of money.

00:35:30.000 You said $350 million total to be involved or influencing in an election.

00:35:36.000 How maybe you said they are looking into it or we're not aware of it, but how is the DOJ not on top of this to the best of our knowledge?

00:35:44.000 I don't know if they're involved.

00:35:46.000 We've been trying to bring it to the attention of those on Capitol Hill so that they will be aware of it.

00:35:52.000 It's hard in this noisy culture to get people to give you more than, well, you've been gracious with your time, and I know how busy you are to be able to explain it.

00:36:02.000 We're trying to get people to focus on this.

00:36:04.000 I think we need to start talking about a billionaire in the counting room and America kicked out.

00:36:09.000 If we start raising our voice to that extent, and I'll get you, Charlie, I'll get you the Philadelphia information that you can share with your viewers and those who listen to you if you desire.

00:36:20.000 We need to rise up.

00:36:22.000 You know, the strength of America is we get what we want.

00:36:26.000 The weakness of America is we get what we want.

00:36:30.000 And so we have to let them know we don't want what just happened.

00:36:35.000 And we want a fair, transparent election that billionaires don't buy for people.

00:36:40.000 Yeah, that would seem something that the left used to care about, right?

00:36:43.000 That used to be something that Democrats would traditionally make a big fuss about, that really powerful people could get involved in elections.

00:36:52.000 That was their argument against the Koch brothers and against billionaire donors, despite their own billionaire donors being ignored, like Soros and others.

00:36:59.000 I want you to explain why this is different than other political contributions in campaigns, because this is more than just a $250 million super PAC.

00:37:06.000 We're talking about actually getting involved in the machinery of the vote counting and tabulation.

00:37:11.000 It's almost a very carefully crafted hotwire almost.

00:37:15.000 So can you explain how it would be different than if Mark Zuckerberg wrote a $250 million check for a super PAC?

00:37:22.000 What makes this more pernicious and different than anything we've seen in electoral history?

00:37:28.000 Sure.

00:37:29.000 You know, it's the cause of justice.

00:37:32.000 And justice, we have judges who are supposed to be objective as they hear cases and not have private interests dictating the result.

00:37:40.000 That's a cornerstone of our judicial system and also protection of our individual liberties.

00:37:47.000 So this is similar to that.

00:37:49.000 In fact, many of the officials who were paid by Zuckerberg are called election judges.

00:37:54.000 They're supposed to be objective.

00:37:56.000 So imagine, if you would, I want to give you two analogies.

00:38:00.000 Imagine if a judge, a criminal judge, was paid by the conviction.

00:38:06.000 Well, you certainly don't want to get in front of that judge.

00:38:10.000 Or imagine if in our civil litigation, the judges before the lawsuit was heard could say, okay, I'm opening it up for bidding.

00:38:19.000 I would like to do all of this and I need some funds.

00:38:23.000 Please provide your funds and I'll close it down before I hear the case.

00:38:27.000 It's government in what is supposed to be an objective role and he's purchasing those government officials.

00:38:35.000 That's what this is.

00:38:36.000 He could have started his own charity and he could have started his own voter turnout like the League of Women Voters and taken persons' applications, turned them over to the state to enter them into the database.

00:38:49.000 But no, he bought the Secretary of State.

00:38:52.000 And that's the primary difference.

00:38:55.000 And that is what makes this so pernicious.

00:38:58.000 Additionally, campaign finance and super PACs can't coordinate.

00:39:03.000 They have to spend their money independently of any candidate.

00:39:07.000 But here, he's coordinating directly with government officials who have a partisan interest.

00:39:12.000 That is a problem.

00:39:14.000 And there's no limits on his funding.

00:39:17.000 One more thing.

00:39:19.000 He's acting like a government, but he's keeping his books closed.

00:39:23.000 He's acting like a government, but he doesn't answer questions.

00:39:27.000 We have as a cornerstone transparency in government, the right to demand answers, public hearings, because we need to hold government politically accountable.

00:39:38.000 There's no political accountability for the Center for Tech and Civic Life, and absolutely none for Mark Zuckerberg.

00:39:45.000 That's why this is so cancerous to the integrity of our election.

00:39:51.000 And it's also one of the greatest intrusions in the electoral process that we've ever seen from very, very powerful people.

00:40:00.000 In closing, can you give us just some understanding of what else you're seeing on the landscape?

00:40:06.000 You're the former Attorney General of Kansas.

00:40:08.000 Is that correct?

00:40:09.000 Yes.

00:40:10.000 So you've overseen plenty of instances of criminal complaints and behavior outside of just the Center for Tech and Civic Life.

00:40:20.000 What other complaints do you see being made by the president that could potentially reverse this election?

00:40:26.000 Because we know that voter fraud exists.

00:40:28.000 We know when 160 million people participate in something, people are going to cut corners and cheat, especially when the prize is a $4 trillion government.

00:40:37.000 We have examples of developmentally disabled people that were being forced to vote for Joe Biden, the Nevada Native Project of gas cards for ballots.

00:40:46.000 I could go on.

00:40:46.000 We've done this many times on our podcast.

00:40:49.000 What else are you seeing that is compelling to make the case that this election was stolen?

00:40:55.000 Well, and let me first issue support for what you're doing and a warning.

00:41:01.000 One of the challenges, because the evidence is clear that we have, is the deconstruction of truth and deconstruction of our culture.

00:41:12.000 When I can go to court and the law says when these counting boards are five people around the table that a Republican must be in the place and sign off, it was done validly.

00:41:23.000 And the Democrats are able to create a place that is two football fields long, put 134 tables in it like they did Detroit, have only Democrats around the table casting ballots for third parties and say they complied with the law because the Republican is in the place, which is way up in the cheap seats where he can't see what's going on.

00:41:44.000 And the judge says, you know what, that's what that means.

00:41:47.000 That's okay.

00:41:48.000 And we failed to see the purpose of the law is to allow people to see to make sure it's truthful.

00:41:54.000 We don't have truth in our culture anymore.

00:41:56.000 And we don't have law because the rule of law requires an understanding of the definition of words and the purpose of the law.

00:42:06.000 And when we deconstruct to this amount, we are a lawless nation.

00:42:10.000 So what I have seen is one of the most lawless elections, if not the most lawless, in United States history.

00:42:17.000 And we have several avenues moving forward, several pieces of evidence.

00:42:22.000 It's primarily how they treated voters in Republican core areas different than voters in Democrat areas.

00:42:29.000 That evidence is strengthening by the moment.

00:42:32.000 If we can pull it together, collect it, and get it before the United States Supreme Court, I think we've got a winner.

00:42:38.000 But really, the odds are against us because of the timeframe and the way they've covered their tracks.

00:42:44.000 And America's not asking the right questions.

00:42:46.000 Those are our challenges.

00:42:48.000 We've got several pieces of litigation.

00:42:50.000 We're hopeful.

00:42:51.000 But I don't think Vegas is betting on us right now.

00:42:55.000 Well, we're behind you, and I just want to thank you for what you're uncovering with the Center for Civic Life.

00:43:02.000 Something needs to change here.

00:43:04.000 And we've been long warning on this program how there's going to be a corporate takeover of our country.

00:43:10.000 And we as conservatives have been worshiping corporate America for so many years, thinking they're on our team.

00:43:16.000 And the moment that they see the power that they've always desired, they'll turn their back on conservatism and they're going to try to rule the country in some sort of feudal state, medieval style oligarchy.

00:43:27.000 And now you see that through this.

00:43:29.000 And conservatives better wake up because these data companies and the surveillance capitalist model, they are not on our side.

00:43:36.000 And now they want to corrupt everything as powerful people usually do.

00:43:40.000 Thank you so much, Phil Klein, for this.

00:43:43.000 How can people support you or follow what you're doing?

00:43:45.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:43:55.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:43:56.000 Keep up the great work and we'll speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 24, 2020

The SHOCKING and Untold Story of How a Big Tech Billionaire Bought the Election

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