The Charlie Kirk Show - The Showdown: Trump vs Kamala Presidential Debate Special

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00:01:16.000 Okay, we have lots of opinions on that.

00:01:19.000 President Trump navigated an ambush.

00:01:20.000 That was a drive-by shooting, a one-on-three debate of moderators that were not supposed to be fact-checking but did, and didn't just fact-check, they did it incorrectly.

00:01:29.000 From the fine people on both sides saying that there was no late-term abortion, the press is going to fawn over this.

00:01:35.000 I'm telling you right now, the press is going to say Kamala Harris, big night, Trump did terribly.

00:01:40.000 We have to brace for that, brace for impact.

00:01:42.000 I do not think that is the truth of what happened here tonight, and we need to put on full display exactly what occurred tonight, which was a drive-by shooting, landmines, that was placed for President Trump.

00:01:52.000 Blake.

00:01:54.000 Charlie, I'm just doing Kamala Harris facial impressions.

00:01:57.000 What was that all about?

00:01:59.000 The very stage?

00:02:00.000 They had to practice holding like this.

00:02:03.000 All of that was very... Look, here's the thing.

00:02:05.000 She's a performer. 0.56

00:02:06.000 A prosecutor is a performance artist.

00:02:08.000 We're going to be back in the chair live on Thursday, but we need to do a David Plouffe episode.

00:02:13.000 What they did is they profiled Donald Trump.

00:02:14.000 They found 20 triggers that they knew that President Trump was going to fall for.

00:02:18.000 Rally sizes was the first one.

00:02:19.000 And from that point forward, it was this sequence that went one after the other.

00:02:22.000 She rehearsed her entire abortion thing that was full of nonsense about miscarriages, not being allowed to get treatment at hospitals. 0.98

00:02:29.000 She made it overly emotional and then went against President Trump on that. 0.61

00:02:33.000 Then, from the beginning, on the economy, we spent a lot of time on tariffs.

00:02:36.000 Like, an unnecessary amount of time on tariffs.

00:02:39.000 And it's very important to skip over all this fake emotionalism and get to the core essence that Kamala Harris is the current Vice President of the United States.

00:02:50.000 She could have fixed so many of these things.

00:02:53.000 She is the second in command of a historically unpopular administration.

00:02:57.000 By every metric.

00:02:58.000 And I think that could have been better displayed tonight.

00:03:02.000 Put on display.

00:03:03.000 For sure, for sure.

00:03:04.000 Now, I agree with you, Charlie.

00:03:06.000 They're going to frame it as a Kamala win, but I would say most of this event was upside.

00:03:13.000 There was the possibility Kamala implodes and you're doing great.

00:03:16.000 They were going to say she won no matter what.

00:03:19.000 I don't think it's going to be a terribly big deal in the end.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, I think this is going to be largely a wash.

00:03:23.000 I mean, look, the talking heads aren't going to say, you know, Donald Trump, but whatever, ever.

00:03:27.000 So here's the thing, is that this was a one-on-three debate.

00:03:32.000 David Meir should be ashamed of himself. 0.94

00:03:33.000 That was disgusting.

00:03:34.000 And by the way, can we get a list of all the interjections?

00:03:37.000 And then the other moderator woman, I don't know her name, but she doesn't deserve respect, but they were so... She's better than Meir.

00:03:45.000 But I'm trying to just think off the top of my head.

00:03:47.000 The worst for me, the worst for me was when he was on the Democracy stuff.

00:03:53.000 Lindsay Davis.

00:03:54.000 It was the Democracy stuff and he's just like, your campaign's legal advisor says that Donald Trump, he's not recognizing the election, it's a threat.

00:04:06.000 How do you, do you?

00:04:07.000 Or no, he's like, he's trying to rig the result or something or undermine the result.

00:04:10.000 It's like, do you agree with that? 0.98

00:04:13.000 So ridiculous. 0.99

00:04:14.000 Do you agree with this huge softball attack on Trump? 0.95

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00:04:42.000 I want to get our panel on this.

00:04:44.000 Andrew, initial reaction.

00:04:45.000 Yeah, no, I think I agree with Blake.

00:04:47.000 I think this is largely going to be a wash.

00:04:49.000 I predicted it before.

00:04:50.000 The media is going to fawn over this.

00:04:52.000 I think Kamala gave the media enough that they are going to say that she was poised and she was, you know, absolutely, I agree with the fact that the moderators were, it was three on one the whole time.

00:05:05.000 I mean, all of Twitter X is basically saying that Climate change, guns, abortion, rally sizes, employees, democracy, the 2020 election.

00:05:17.000 The point of the questions were all in Kamala's sweet spot and they were a setup for Trump.

00:05:26.000 I would say Trump nailed it at the end.

00:05:28.000 He finally got there where he said, you know, why haven't you done it yet?

00:05:32.000 And that was essentially the entire debate.

00:05:34.000 I wish he would have brought that up a little earlier, but at least he got it in that final segment.

00:05:38.000 And that clip I think will do really, really well on socials.

00:05:41.000 I would just say that it was a complete setup, a lot of intentional baiting and triggering.

00:05:47.000 At the end of the day, I think When we talk about this electorally, this is going to be a wash.

00:05:53.000 I don't think anybody is going to end up having a big bump from this.

00:05:57.000 I think we're going to see this within seven days.

00:06:00.000 We're going to move on to a new conversation, new narrative in the news.

00:06:05.000 So yeah, and look, Tyler, I want to get your thoughts on this.

00:06:07.000 It's very clear that Kamala Harris received the coaching from David Plouffe and her team.

00:06:12.000 Her team found 20 potential psychological triggers for President Trump, and she used every single one of them.

00:06:17.000 It was a sequence, one after the other after the other.

00:06:20.000 What President Trump, in my opinion, should have done, and could have done an even better job of, is twist and have triggers against her.

00:06:27.000 The one moment that I thought was very interesting, where she seemed a little bit off kilter, was when he called her a Marxist.

00:06:35.000 She didn't quite look very comfortable there, and they just cut it off kind of completely.

00:06:38.000 Tyler, your initial reaction here.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, Charlie, Rush Limbaugh would have called this the drive-by debate.

00:06:44.000 This was exactly what we talked about before we got on, was we knew that the setup here was not going to be the same as the last one.

00:06:52.000 The last one was a pretty fair debate with the questions, so it went back and forth.

00:06:56.000 This is why I said I was like, I'm really expecting this to be a complete setup where Going to ask him and berate him.

00:07:03.000 And so the preparation has to be good.

00:07:06.000 He has to look calm, cool, relaxed, untriggered, uh, about stuff.

00:07:11.000 And, uh, you know, we just got attacked, uh, constantly.

00:07:15.000 It was a three on one debate.

00:07:18.000 And like, as we, as we said, but look, here are the positive takeaways from this is that, you know, there are many elements within this debate where Kamala looked uncomfortable.

00:07:29.000 She laughed a lot.

00:07:30.000 She smiled a lot.

00:07:32.000 She sneered a lot, which just speaks to the way that she's uncomfortable in these situations and these environments. 0.98

00:07:38.000 I don't think those were exposed as much as they possibly could have been.

00:07:41.000 Like you said, Charlie, that there should have been some preparation to be able to lean into that.

00:07:47.000 So once he was able to identify that, but when you're sitting next to a person, you're not able to totally comprehend Uh, the same way that the audience is looking straight on at her face.

00:07:59.000 And so, you know, I think the takeaway here is in debate number two, which is going to be extraordinarily important.

00:08:05.000 I hope it happens.

00:08:07.000 Uh, is that she's going to be uncomfortable and, and president Trump has to remain focused on the very basics, which is what we've talked about here is that Kamala Harris has been part of a regime that has caused absolute chaos at the border. 1.00

00:08:23.000 That has allowed for our economy to spin out after and in a post COVID world we have inflation like it's like crazy and that simplified message just has to be delivered over and over and over again in almost a very boring repetitious way.

00:08:39.000 But with Trump being cool and collected and kind of the funny, likable self that he is.

00:08:46.000 And I don't know if that all totally came through tonight.

00:08:49.000 We'll see what the result is.

00:08:50.000 But we've got our work to do to make sure that people hear that message, regardless of what the outcome of the debate is.

00:08:56.000 Yeah, and so just remind me really quick that we need a primary James Langford.

00:09:01.000 Like, how many times do I have to hear, oh, well, you know, you killed a bipartisan border bill.

00:09:05.000 I mean, it is so nauseatingly ridiculous the damage that James Langford has done to this country by doing that. 0.90

00:09:11.000 Totally obnoxious. 0.90

00:09:12.000 No, I'm not.

00:09:12.000 Totally uncalled for.

00:09:14.000 Unnecessary.

00:09:15.000 And so let's just kind of go through this.

00:09:17.000 I want to play some tape here.

00:09:18.000 This is President Trump on Kamala's flip-flopping.

00:09:20.000 She has no policy. 0.98

00:09:21.000 Everything she believed three years ago.

00:09:23.000 I'm going to send her a MAGA hat if she ever got elected. 1.00

00:09:25.000 She's a Marxist.

00:09:26.000 I think he could have pressed on this even further.

00:09:29.000 And it was an interesting type format because it was very clear that Kamala was not adequately prepared on the substance, but she was adequately prepared on her 1-2-3 dance moves and her 1-2-3 triggers to try to get President Trump upset. 0.77

00:09:47.000 Rallies, crowd sizes, staff around.

00:09:50.000 Let's play Cut84, please.

00:09:51.000 I don't say her because she has no policy.

00:09:54.000 Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.

00:09:59.000 She's going to my philosophy now.

00:10:00.000 In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.

00:10:02.000 She's gone to my philosophy.

00:10:04.000 But if she ever got elected, she'd change it and it will be the end of our country.

00:10:10.000 She's a Marxist.

00:10:11.000 Everybody knows she's a Marxist.

00:10:12.000 Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.

00:10:17.000 But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say, and I think it's a lot higher than the 21, that's bigger than New York State pouring in.

00:10:34.000 And just look at what they're doing to our country.

00:10:37.000 Many of these people coming in are criminals. 0.99

00:10:37.000 They're criminals. 0.99

00:10:40.000 And that's bad for our economy, too.

00:10:42.000 You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later.

00:10:44.000 Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy. 1.00

00:10:49.000 They have, and she has, destroyed our country with policy that's insane. 0.81

00:10:55.000 Almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country.

00:11:00.000 So Blake, you were commenting on her over-theatric response.

00:11:02.000 It's so theatrical, like just within that clip, if people were watching Trump and stuff, you know, but she's just like, hmm.

00:11:10.000 But honestly, like liberal women like that because they're so over the top. 1.00

00:11:14.000 There's definitely a persona, you'll see this on TikTok or Instagram, the performative, like they talk like a TV character.

00:11:21.000 Yeah, like they're on Friends.

00:11:22.000 Yeah, not even on Friends.

00:11:23.000 A lot of them will talk like they're the villain in a drama.

00:11:27.000 I mean, you had an encounter with one of those people in that 25. 0.99

00:11:29.000 They talk like a psycho. 0.54

00:11:32.000 This shows they're fierce or they're tough or whatever. 0.76

00:11:34.000 The show wasn't quite going that bad, but it was very...

00:11:37.000 It felt very, yeah, like I said, theatrical, rehearsed.

00:11:42.000 I think definitely the whole, like, put your chin in your hand and look really confused.

00:11:48.000 They almost certainly coached her on that exact position.

00:11:50.000 Oh, was it a kind of like, look like this?

00:11:52.000 It was so fake.

00:11:53.000 It was so nauseating.

00:11:55.000 She did not start well.

00:11:58.000 Once she got Andrew into her coaching, it was muscle memory for her.

00:12:02.000 It's very clear she's done nothing but for the last two weeks, when A comes in, say B. And it did not help, by the way.

00:12:07.000 Can we have a full list of all the fact checks?

00:12:10.000 Moderators are not supposed to fact check debates.

00:12:13.000 Not once did they fact check her.

00:12:15.000 Not once did they fact check her.

00:12:17.000 Yet at least three times on the top of my head, they fact-checked Trump.

00:12:20.000 And the one that I just screamed at the television, where she said, well, it's not legal anywhere in the country to have late-term abortions. 1.00

00:12:27.000 In nine states across the country, it is legal to execute your baby up until the point of birth and even post-birth, as articulated by the governor of Virginia.

00:12:36.000 And so, yeah, Andrew, please.

00:12:39.000 And Charlie, when she goes into the Verifying People hoax, they didn't even bother to fact-check that, even though that's been publicized far and wide after the first debate.

00:12:49.000 It is debunked.

00:12:50.000 It is totally false.

00:12:51.000 So they were absolutely hit.

00:12:53.000 They were selectively fact-checking that.

00:12:55.000 Mr. Trump, you did something or said something that was absolutely terrible.

00:12:59.000 Aren't you terrible?

00:13:00.000 To Kamala Harris, would you like to weigh in on how terrible Trump is?

00:13:00.000 Donald Trump answers.

00:13:03.000 So this is the ABC playbook, moderators, Mr. Trump, you did something or said something

00:13:08.000 that was absolutely terrible.

00:13:09.000 Aren't you terrible?

00:13:10.000 Donald Trump answers to Kamala Harris. 0.79

00:13:13.000 Would you like to weigh in on how terrible Trump is?

00:13:16.000 Thank you.

00:13:17.000 I mean, that really is sure.

00:13:18.000 Basically, the way this is, it was so bad.

00:13:21.000 And I'm just thinking about my head.

00:13:22.000 The late term abortion one is really what set me off. 1.00

00:13:24.000 But there were three or four other ones.

00:13:26.000 The other one with David Muir.

00:13:27.000 We'll talk to you later.

00:13:28.000 President Trump, do you want Ukraine to win?

00:13:30.000 Excuse me?

00:13:31.000 Like, excuse me?

00:13:33.000 The two or three different follow-ups on, do you want Ukraine to win?

00:13:35.000 He answered the question.

00:13:37.000 We want peace.

00:13:38.000 We want America to win, David Muir.

00:13:40.000 We want this country to win, David Muir.

00:13:43.000 And then when it came to him, they were like, oh, well, let's stay on the topic of the economy.

00:13:47.000 And yet when there were topics that Kamala Harris didn't like, she would constantly change the topic and they would never regulate her and say that we are not on topic.

00:13:55.000 Ever.

00:13:55.000 Not once.

00:13:56.000 It was obviously a one-on-three debate.

00:14:00.000 ABC News completely in the bag.

00:14:02.000 The most interfered-with debate in modern American history.

00:14:05.000 With that being said, I would have liked to see President Trump to just... I would have liked to have seen a constant theme over and over again.

00:14:13.000 An almost eye-rolling exhaustion.

00:14:15.000 The one place of feedback I would like to see is, you're the Vice President right now.

00:14:19.000 Do something.

00:14:20.000 He tried to do that once, right, Blake, where he's like, why don't you go down to D.C.

00:14:24.000 and sign a bill?

00:14:25.000 But I don't think that really came across nearly as clear as it should have been.

00:14:31.000 It was memorable in the sense he got the line of, you know, drag Joe Biden out at four in the afternoon.

00:14:36.000 I thought that was entertaining enough, I think, reminding people.

00:14:40.000 Simultaneously reminding people that she is a part of a brutally unpopular administration,

00:14:45.000 that this administration is rudderless, and at the same time that she has like very little

00:14:52.000 separation from Joe Biden at all. And I think he'll be spending the next few weeks reminding people of that.

00:14:58.000 Yeah, let's play the clip, but first I just want to thank really quick...

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00:15:28.000 Let's play the tape.

00:15:29.000 What is it, Andrew?

00:15:29.000 91.

00:15:31.000 Play cut 91.

00:15:32.000 I ask you this, you talk about the Capitol.

00:15:35.000 Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border?

00:15:40.000 How come she's not doing anything?

00:15:42.000 And I'll tell you what I would do, and I would be very proud to do it.

00:15:45.000 I would say we would both leave this debate right now.

00:15:48.000 I'd like to see her go down. 1.00

00:15:50.000 To Washington, D.C. 0.95

00:15:52.000 during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time, go down to, because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous, go down to Washington, D.C. 0.66

00:16:00.000 and let her sign a bill to close up the border. 1.00

00:16:02.000 Because they have the right to do it.

00:16:04.000 They don't need bills.

00:16:05.000 They have the right to do it.

00:16:06.000 The President of the United States, you'll get him out of bed, you'll wake him up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you'll say, come on, come on down to the office, let's sign a bill.

00:16:14.000 If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the Border Patrol, who are phenomenal.

00:16:21.000 If they do that, the border is closed.

00:16:24.000 Andrew, the essence of what he's saying there is... I think we lost Andrew.

00:16:28.000 Jack, your thoughts, actually.

00:16:29.000 I want, Jack, your thought.

00:16:31.000 Yeah, look, Charlie, I've never seen anything like this.

00:16:34.000 At this point, it appears that President Trump has survived two assassination attempts in one campaign.

00:16:40.000 One, of course, Being physical and the next one being political.

00:16:44.000 Look, this was a hit job.

00:16:45.000 This was three on one.

00:16:46.000 This wasn't a debate.

00:16:47.000 I don't care what anybody says.

00:16:48.000 This, this was not a debate.

00:16:50.000 This is not how debates are supposed to be run.

00:16:52.000 This is not, this is like, Charlie, you just had the 25 on one.

00:16:56.000 Now Trump has three on one.

00:16:57.000 All right.

00:16:58.000 If you are an American sitting out there trying to figure out which candidate to vote for, And you're trying to figure out who is going to be better served for your country, who's going to be better for your family, who's going to be better for your people, who's going to be better for the citizens of Springfield, Ohio.

00:17:11.000 What David Muir and the ABC moderators did out there was completely insane.

00:17:17.000 And it almost sounded as if Kamala Harris had the questions in advance.

00:17:22.000 Because she had that prepared, canned answer to every single one that they gave.

00:17:28.000 And whenever President Trump was talking, that's when they would go and they would attack.

00:17:32.000 They would go on the offense.

00:17:34.000 They would fact check him.

00:17:35.000 Well, actually, sir, this happened.

00:17:36.000 Actually, this happened many times.

00:17:37.000 David Muir would even cut him off.

00:17:38.000 as he was speaking, never once did it for Kamala Harris.

00:17:41.000 So you see it over and over and over, and it creates this false perception,

00:17:46.000 and then she starts laughing, she starts going along with it.

00:17:48.000 So she never has to actually go on the offense because the moderators are doing it for her.

00:17:54.000 It allows her to stay relaxed, and she's just reading from her script,

00:17:57.000 she's just reading from her prepared statements.

00:17:59.000 And this was a travesty, it was travesty for America, and it's really something that I think 0.95

00:18:04.000 a lot of Americans deserve better.

00:18:05.000 And you can see, by the way, the response online.

00:18:07.000 There are people in the middle coming out saying, look, this was not a good debate for the American people.

00:18:12.000 It was not a fair fight.

00:18:13.000 I want to get to this here.

00:18:14.000 This is ABC News on their own network saying Kamala Harris did not do a good job of explaining her own policy, which she didn't.

00:18:21.000 It was all abstractions.

00:18:23.000 And I thought, honestly, this is one of President Trump's best lines.

00:18:25.000 He said, her entire platform is run, spot, run. 0.86

00:18:30.000 Let's play Cut94.

00:18:32.000 Vice President Kamala Harris did not do a great job today really explaining her policy shifts, right? 1.00

00:18:38.000 And that is what they have been seizing on.

00:18:40.000 They're really trying to define her for voters when voters have a lot of questions about her policy positions. 0.98

00:18:47.000 I mean, she did not do a good job of that at all.

00:18:49.000 And so, Jack, I want to ask, you're on the ground in Philadelphia.

00:18:54.000 There's a lot of vibe there.

00:18:55.000 A lot of independent voters were tuning in tonight, and they did not get a chance, I think, to actually get into any of the substance of the debate.

00:19:05.000 The abortion part, I want to get this clip, it was such a travesty and a tragedy when that woman from ABC says, well, there's no place where there's late-term abortion.

00:19:16.000 Kamala Harris, there's no late-term abortion. 1.00

00:19:18.000 There are eight states across the country, according to Axios.com, how many times have I said this, Blake?

00:19:23.000 Eight states, and they are New Mexico, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, New Jersey, I think New York and Vermont, I think is number eight, we can get the exact list.

00:19:35.000 California maybe?

00:19:36.000 Yes, I don't even know if it's California yet, that have no restrictions whatsoever on abortion.

00:19:41.000 Where you can bring the baby up to, and Donald Trump was excellent on the messaging there, and ABC took all of the air out of that.

00:19:49.000 All of the air out of that.

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00:19:53.000 Who do you think won the debate?

00:19:54.000 Your reaction on this one-on-three debate of President Trump versus David Muir and two women, I don't know the other woman's name, Kamala Harris and the other one.

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00:20:10.000 Blake, what are you seeing right now?

00:20:13.000 I had a friend who pointed out to me, he said, What's so outrageous is where she's just able to rewrite her own narrative.

00:20:21.000 She just says, like, I just want us all to get along.

00:20:25.000 Kamala is involved in all sorts of bizarre race baiting, gender baiting. 1.00

00:20:31.000 She was part of the whole attack on Justice Kavanaugh when it happened, during those hearings. 0.97

00:20:36.000 She believed an egregiously false hate hoax by Jussie Smollett, which was not just, oh, she believed a dumb story.

00:20:44.000 She believed a dumb story whose purpose was to vilify an entire political grouping, an entire race of people, basically a blood libel, essentially. 0.89

00:20:53.000 And she's done. 0.70

00:20:54.000 And then, of course, she was even saying, like, oh, I think she mentioned, you know, China was to blame for COVID, which in 2020, Kamala and everyone else was saying it was racist to even, like, say the word China in relation to the virus until lockdowns hit.

00:21:09.000 She's just allowed to totally rewrite the past. 0.74

00:21:10.000 The same way anytime Trump brought up, oh, you know, she opposed fracking, she wanted gun confiscations, she wants this radical left-wing economic stuff. 1.00

00:21:19.000 There's never any moderator coming in to say like, oh, well, Kamala, you did say you wanted to do that.

00:21:24.000 You know, we have you on tape endorsing this.

00:21:26.000 You told the ACLU you were going to do this.

00:21:29.000 Instead, she's just allowed to do her practiced facial expressions where she looks... It would just be so cringe. 0.99

00:21:36.000 So cringe.

00:21:37.000 I just... I refuse to believe that this creature can be allowed into the same office that Abraham Lincoln used.

00:21:45.000 I refuse to believe it.

00:21:47.000 Oh, Taylor Swift just endorsed Kamala Harris just now.

00:21:52.000 That's great.

00:21:53.000 Well, there you go.

00:21:54.000 Inevitable.

00:21:55.000 Well, she's still friends with Britney though, right?

00:21:57.000 Or did she disavow Britney? 1.00

00:21:58.000 With a photo of her cat, by the way.

00:22:04.000 She's voting because of LGBTQ rights, IVF, and a woman's right to her own body for decades. 1.00

00:22:09.000 Okay, yeah.

00:22:11.000 I told my team I will not attack Taylor Swift, so let's stay focused on... We're gonna shake it off, Charlie.

00:22:16.000 I mean, to be honest with you... We're gonna shake it off.

00:22:18.000 That is quite a way to take the headlines off of Kamala Harris in the debate. 1.00

00:22:22.000 I guess that's structurally a good thing, but from a media perspective, they couldn't have waited a couple days?

00:22:29.000 Or I guess Taylor wanted to justify, oh, I saw a debate, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know?

00:22:33.000 Yeah.

00:22:34.000 I think it's not so bad.

00:22:35.000 Like, it's going to take away some of the energy.

00:22:37.000 Like, they would have preferred to get a separate news cycle.

00:22:37.000 I mean, it was inevitable.

00:22:39.000 So let's go to MSNBC.

00:22:41.000 Nicole Wallace admits that the ABC News moderators were in the tank for Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:22:45.000 Play cut 96.

00:22:47.000 David Muir didn't hesitate to say, I went back and watched the tape, you didn't sound sarcastic to me when you said, I lost by a whisker.

00:22:54.000 Kahnleier got Trump on three sides of whether or not he won in 2020.

00:22:58.000 He said, I won.

00:22:59.000 And then he said, I said sarcastically that I lost by a whisker.

00:23:04.000 And then David Muir ended it by saying, no, that wasn't sarcastic.

00:23:06.000 So what the American people heard was Trump on three sides of the outcome of 2020.

00:23:10.000 And David Muir and Lindsay Davis played an important role in that.

00:23:16.000 They played an important role in that.

00:23:17.000 That's MSNBC.

00:23:19.000 That's so disgusting where it's just like, oh, well, you said this.

00:23:21.000 What do you have to say? 0.80

00:23:22.000 And he says, I was sarcastic.

00:23:24.000 Nuh-uh! 1.00

00:23:25.000 No, you weren't!

00:23:28.000 That's not an appropriate way to respond to it.

00:23:30.000 You asked him about the quotes.

00:23:31.000 That's his justification.

00:23:33.000 You can go play the clip if you want.

00:23:36.000 The media can debate it the next day.

00:23:37.000 But your position is not to argue with Trump about whether he was sarcastic or not.

00:23:43.000 Yeah, and Taylor says the main reason she's endorsing Trump is because of the whole AI thing where Trump said she endorsed him.

00:23:49.000 That's not actually what he did at all.

00:23:51.000 He was sharing AI images saying, I would welcome your endorsement, so on and so forth.

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00:23:59.000 Not a surprise is all.

00:23:59.000 That was already baked in.

00:24:01.000 I want to thank Jacob, Teresa, David, Cody, Stacy, Carter, Jacob, Maxwell, Mary, and Lizette.

00:24:10.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

00:24:12.000 That is Members.CharlieKirk.com.

00:24:15.000 And Jack, it's hard to even frame this as a debate.

00:24:19.000 It's hard for me to either say who won or lost when you have basically a Moscow-style show trial occurring in real time.

00:24:28.000 That wasn't a debate.

00:24:30.000 It was a struggle session by ABC News.

00:24:34.000 Yeah, so this is a typical communist tactic, and you know, as folks know, I just wrote a whole best-selling book about how the media and the establishment and the institutions have been taken over by communists, and on humans, the secret history of communist revolutions and how to crush them.

00:24:49.000 And this is specifically a tactic they use.

00:24:51.000 They go to you and accuse you of committing a crime, and then they say, why will you not confess?

00:24:57.000 Why will you not confess?

00:24:58.000 Why will you not confess?

00:25:00.000 And then they turn to Kamala Harris.

00:25:01.000 Why is he not confessed?

00:25:03.000 Why will he not confess to the things that he's done?

00:25:05.000 Now, keep in mind, January 6th, just as an example, four years ago, yet no question about July 13th, what happened two months ago.

00:25:11.000 It's a moral outrage.

00:25:12.000 to not talk about these things.

00:25:14.000 Or a couple, the fact that he went to the Arlington Memorial

00:25:18.000 but she didn't, just, I mean, you could go through the numerous examples of this over and over,

00:25:23.000 but it doesn't matter.

00:25:24.000 The point is, it was intended to be a show trial.

00:25:29.000 The only difference is when the Chinese Communist Party conducted Maoist show trials, they would do so

00:25:35.000 in giant soccer stadiums with a gun to the back of your head.

00:25:38.000 And if they could have, they would have placed a sign under Donald Trump's head calling him right-wing extremist and putting a dunce cap on him and having a crowd chanting, shame, shame, shame. 0.96

00:25:49.000 That was what you just saw.

00:25:51.000 This was not a debate.

00:25:52.000 This was an attempt to put Donald Trump Trump is going to the spin room, I'm told, guys.

00:25:56.000 So as soon as he hits the spin room, can we find that feed and do a concurrent stream, please?

00:26:03.000 If that's possible, please?

00:26:04.000 I have every network up right now.

00:26:06.000 by all sides.

00:26:07.000 Trump is going to the spin room I'm told guys.

00:26:09.000 So as soon as he hits the spin room can we find that feed and do a concurrent stream

00:26:13.000 please?

00:26:14.000 If that's possible please?

00:26:16.000 So I have every network up right now.

00:26:20.000 So President Trump is going to the spin room.

00:26:23.000 By the way, who actually believes Kamala Harris owns a gun? 0.78

00:26:27.000 I would love someone to ask her.

00:26:29.000 What's the model?

00:26:31.000 By the way, just so we are clear, she probably doesn't.

00:26:35.000 But her team said, well, why don't we just buy you a pistol or something?

00:26:39.000 Say you're a gun owner.

00:26:40.000 Say that both you and Tim Walz are.

00:26:41.000 It was brilliant.

00:26:42.000 Obviously coached.

00:26:43.000 Obviously rehearsed.

00:26:44.000 I really want them to ask her a basic thing.

00:26:49.000 Kamala, we've brought this prop pistol.

00:26:52.000 It's not a real gun.

00:26:53.000 It's not an Alec Baldwin thing.

00:26:55.000 Show us how you hold a gun.

00:27:01.000 We've got a little model target here.

00:27:04.000 How would you aim it with proper safety practice?

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00:27:09.000 I have a whole pile of hats I'm signing for you guys.

00:27:11.000 By the way, this is super breaking news hour.

00:27:13.000 Taylor Swift endorsing Donald Trump.

00:27:15.000 Endorsing Kamala Harris and not Donald Trump.

00:27:17.000 That's fake news.

00:27:17.000 Sorry.

00:27:18.000 Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala Harris.

00:27:20.000 Donald Trump going to the spin room.

00:27:22.000 Tyler, what are you seeing and hearing here?

00:27:24.000 This is hard to even judge as a debate.

00:27:26.000 I see this being a temporary boost with some independence for Kamala Harris that will probably taper. 1.00

00:27:33.000 The media's reaction here is going to be overwhelming.

00:27:37.000 I thought President Trump stood his ground rather well, all things being considered.

00:27:42.000 Tyler, your thoughts?

00:27:43.000 Yeah, it's more of this is like, you know, all the Karens that already were supporting Kamala. 0.88

00:27:49.000 This just gets them really excited type stuff.

00:27:52.000 So like the female vote that already was there, you know, there just wasn't a lot of reason. 0.99

00:27:59.000 I don't think that that was afforded with this opportunity.

00:28:03.000 to kind of carve into the places where she leads.

00:28:06.000 That being said, I agree that I don't think it's like a huge takeaway from Trump and where the places that he already leads.

00:28:14.000 The big deal here for our election ahead of us is just it's a turnout game.

00:28:19.000 So and this isn't a turnout game across all 50 states, it's a turnout game across basically four states at this point.

00:28:25.000 And it's Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, that's probably going to be the defining factor in this election.

00:28:31.000 So here's the deal.

00:28:32.000 So if you're watching this, you know, the Taylor Swift thing is a toll set up, right?

00:28:37.000 And that has negative impact with, you know, obviously getting young women out to vote.

00:28:43.000 We got to be looking as conservatives and saying, OK, how are we going to get our base out to vote more?

00:28:48.000 You know, we shouldn't be hiding under rocks.

00:28:51.000 We shouldn't take away, you know, any negativity that happens, you know, with, again, these drive-by attacks from the media.

00:29:00.000 And we need to find ways to organize our people.

00:29:02.000 And the best way to do that is what we're doing at Turning Point Action, tpaction.com slash 100.

00:29:07.000 You can sign up today, get 100 voters to chase.

00:29:11.000 That's how we're going to win elections.

00:29:12.000 We don't have to win elections in 50 states, we have to win elections in basically two out of the four.

00:29:17.000 And you do that and you win, or you sit at home and you lose.

00:29:22.000 So if you're pissed off tonight because you're watching this thing and you're looking at it and you're going, I can't stand the media.

00:29:29.000 I know exactly what's going on here.

00:29:31.000 I see everything that's happening.

00:29:33.000 Commit yourself to leave your okay, deep red state or your deep blue state and come help us in Wisconsin and Arizona.

00:29:41.000 And guess what?

00:29:42.000 Kamala Harris loses.

00:29:44.000 That's how this thing works.

00:29:45.000 Look, this is going to come down to 50,000 votes in five states.

00:29:48.000 Here's the thing.

00:29:52.000 We as a movement do better when we are under attack and not when we are overconfident.

00:29:57.000 After tonight, there should be no overconfidence, everybody.

00:30:01.000 Kamala Harris took her debate prep Wheaties.

00:30:03.000 And I'm not saying she won anything.

00:30:05.000 I'm saying the media is going to say she won.

00:30:06.000 This was not even a debate.

00:30:07.000 This was an inquisition.

00:30:09.000 But they're going to try to make this thing very, very close.

00:30:13.000 They had the whole thing psychologically profiled.

00:30:16.000 Rallies, McCain, former staff, one, two, right, Blake?

00:30:20.000 It was as if somebody who had studied President Trump for a long, long time, and oh, I mean,

00:30:25.000 goodness, the way she delivered the line was so fake, but it was so scripted where she

00:30:31.000 said, I want everyone to watch a rally and President Trump, they start leaving early.

00:30:35.000 There is nothing that bothers President Trump more than when people say that people leave

00:30:40.000 early and that's well documented in a lot of different books.

00:30:44.000 And he went right in on that.

00:30:46.000 And again, it didn't help with all the moderators and all that.

00:30:48.000 So I want to play this.

00:30:49.000 This is President Trump's closing statement.

00:30:51.000 I think it was his strongest moment of the night, where he made the case to the American people, right?

00:30:56.000 I want to play the full thing, but first I want to thank Andrew, Hannah, Leanne, CJ, Kevin, Gene, Gail, Rodney, Ellie, and Shelby.

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00:31:10.000 Play cut 97.

00:31:12.000 President Trump, So he just started by saying she's going to do this, she's going to do that, she's going to do all these wonderful things.

00:31:19.000 Why hasn't she done it?

00:31:22.000 She's been there for three and a half years.

00:31:24.000 They've had three and a half years to fix the border.

00:31:27.000 They've had three and a half years to Create jobs and all the things we talked about.

00:31:32.000 Why hasn't she done it?

00:31:35.000 She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it.

00:31:44.000 Because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in.

00:31:48.000 You believe in things like we're not going to frack.

00:31:51.000 We're not going to take fossil fuel.

00:31:53.000 We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not.

00:31:58.000 Germany tried that.

00:31:59.000 And within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants.

00:32:04.000 We're not ready for it.

00:32:06.000 We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.

00:32:10.000 But I just ask one simple question.

00:32:13.000 Why didn't she do it? 0.83

00:32:15.000 We're a failing nation.

00:32:17.000 We're a nation that's in serious decline.

00:32:20.000 We're being laughed at all over the world.

00:32:22.000 All over the world they laugh.

00:32:23.000 I know the leaders very well.

00:32:25.000 They're coming to see me.

00:32:26.000 They call me.

00:32:27.000 We're laughed at all over the world.

00:32:29.000 They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.

00:32:32.000 We're not a leader.

00:32:33.000 We don't have any idea what's going on.

00:32:36.000 We have wars going on in the Middle East.

00:32:38.000 We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine.

00:32:42.000 We're going to end up in a third world war, and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.

00:32:49.000 I rebuilt our entire military.

00:32:52.000 She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban.

00:32:56.000 She gave it to Afghanistan.

00:32:58.000 What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all, is allowing millions of people to come into our country. 1.00

00:33:05.000 Many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country. 0.81

00:33:09.000 The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country. 0.99

00:33:14.000 President Trump, thank you.

00:33:18.000 You guys can become a member.

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00:33:20.000 President Trump should be going to the spin room unless my sources are wrong at any moment here.

00:33:25.000 Then also, let's see, we have the Taylor Swift endorsement.

00:33:29.000 A lot of news happening right now, Blake.

00:33:30.000 This is the place to be.

00:33:31.000 I also want to read the bottom of this.

00:33:36.000 Taylor Swift signed her Instagram post as a childless cat lady.

00:33:40.000 Man.

00:33:42.000 Yeah.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, she literally says, Taylor Swift signed Childless Cat Lady.

00:33:49.000 Well, after Kamala's president, she might not have the cats much longer.

00:33:52.000 Yeah, isn't this exactly, with all the Haitians, they're gonna eat Taylor Swift's cat. 1.00

00:33:55.000 Taylor, they're coming after your cat!

00:33:57.000 They'll just be like, I never—it'll be like, five years from now, it's like, I never thought this could happen when she expressly voted for the cat-eating party.

00:34:05.000 Let me be very clear. 0.94

00:34:06.000 The Haitians are going to eat Taylor's cat. 1.00

00:34:07.000 That's going to get clipped out. 0.99

00:34:08.000 They're going to.

00:34:09.000 Every single one of them.

00:34:10.000 That's going to get clipped out.

00:34:11.000 I hope it gets clipped out. 0.97

00:34:13.000 I want to deport Haitians to protect Taylor's cat. 1.00

00:34:15.000 We should. 0.89

00:34:16.000 We believe—we are principled people.

00:34:18.000 We believe in protecting the cats of all Americans, even those who vote incorrectly. 0.57

00:34:22.000 Yeah, no, I think that... Hashtag protect Taylor's cats.

00:34:25.000 Can we get a tweet up going here? 0.93

00:34:27.000 Deport Haitians, because Taylor deserves the right to have little Snickers, not be fried. 1.00

00:34:32.000 Fried Snickers sounds pretty good, dude. 0.99

00:34:33.000 Did they serve that at the Iowa State Fair?

00:34:35.000 Is that a Haitian dish?

00:34:36.000 Fried Snickers?

00:34:37.000 I think deep-fried Snickers is a thing you can get at, you know.

00:34:39.000 She named her cat Meredith? 0.95

00:34:41.000 Meredith?

00:34:42.000 That's insane.

00:34:42.000 Whoa.

00:34:44.000 Who gives their cats, like, human names?

00:34:46.000 You name, like, Snickers or Frizz, you know, like... I feel like cats usually do have normal people names.

00:34:51.000 Meredith.

00:34:51.000 Dogs that have names like Buster or whatever.

00:34:53.000 Okay.

00:34:55.000 So she signed it as Childless Cat Lady. 0.83

00:34:58.000 So we need to protect her cat by deporting the Haitians. 1.00

00:35:02.000 People say don't attack the fact that it's named Meredith.

00:35:06.000 Okay, whatever.

00:35:08.000 Alright, so that's right there in our face.

00:35:12.000 Tyler, your thoughts on the evening?

00:35:14.000 Yeah, I mean, my key takeaway here is this is we just got to work harder.

00:35:18.000 You know, this is just you're going to be in this position where we know that the media was going to be stacked up against us.

00:35:25.000 I think the media was in a position with Biden where they couldn't, they couldn't do anything.

00:35:31.000 Their, their, their hands were tied.

00:35:33.000 And this is a total, again, Obama drive by situation here where, you know, clearly, you know, some people were saying that look like she had a earpiece in her right ear or whatever.

00:35:43.000 It's, She's this this woman has been on the Obama debate diet. 0.98

00:35:49.000 She has been just listening nonstop to Barack Obama.

00:35:53.000 She's mimicking some of the his characteristics and debates.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, they probably had her on a diet cleanse for the last three days, and just mentally focused.

00:36:04.000 And when you're up against people who are doing that, you've got to be at the top of your game.

00:36:10.000 It's not just President Trump that has to be at the top of this game.

00:36:12.000 We have to be at the top of our game for get out the vote strategies.

00:36:15.000 We have to make sure that we're talking to our neighbors and we have to get out absolutely every possible Republican vote that we can in Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, and of course Michigan and Nevada.

00:36:27.000 But Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia I think is where this election is going to land.

00:36:32.000 And so we've got to do everything we possibly can to make sure that this thing We come out on top.

00:36:37.000 And that's the way that you combat this, is if you're not feeling good about how the media is treating our president, President Trump, you got to get out work.

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00:36:49.000 I love it.

00:36:50.000 Okay, let's go here.

00:36:52.000 Can you do the rumble donations, please?

00:36:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:54.000 We've got some donations from a few people, so we want to read them off.

00:36:57.000 Nemarston donated $50 and just said, Trump 2024.

00:37:01.000 Amen.

00:37:02.000 Rally the troops.

00:37:04.000 Move on from tonight, whatever you think of it.

00:37:05.000 Let's go win. 0.82

00:37:07.000 $200, Trump 2024.

00:37:11.000 Stop communism.

00:37:12.000 Amen.

00:37:13.000 We're going to win.

00:37:14.000 We're going to stop them.

00:37:15.000 And we have $25 from Veteran RN.

00:37:19.000 Charlie, I love your team.

00:37:20.000 I will donate to your team for ballot efforts.

00:37:23.000 Taylor is pagan.

00:37:27.000 I'm not attacking Taylor.

00:37:28.000 I'm protecting her rights.

00:37:29.000 We are protecting her cats, which she may have for witchcraft related purposes, but we will protect it no matter what.

00:37:36.000 No matter what.

00:37:37.000 That's right.

00:37:38.000 Any others?

00:37:40.000 That's what we have right now.

00:37:41.000 Okay, let's go to some more tape here.

00:37:43.000 I think we have this.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, this is JD Vance and the Spinner in PlayCut 99.

00:37:47.000 Donald Trump is right to call it out and Kamala Harris, like so many other issues, she has no way to explain why she's going to be better as president than she has been as vice president. 0.91

00:37:57.000 It's her policies that cause the problem. 1.00

00:37:58.000 She should have an answer to that.

00:38:00.000 Senator.

00:38:01.000 Senator.

00:38:01.000 Yeah.

00:38:02.000 Senator.

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:03.000 Senator.

00:38:04.000 Yeah.

00:38:04.000 Senator.

00:38:05.000 Yeah.

00:38:05.000 Senator.

00:38:06.000 Yeah.

00:38:06.000 Senator.

00:38:07.000 Yeah.

00:38:07.000 Senator.

00:38:08.000 Yeah.

00:38:08.000 All right.

00:38:09.000 It's a little difficult to hear, and the camera is not the best.

00:38:11.000 The show.

00:38:13.000 Yeah, hard to kind of hear that.

00:38:15.000 So, uh, the the other part that I think is very important that is being missed here was the topics that were barely discussed.

00:38:25.000 And also, by the way, remember Donald Trump's fact check where they try to fact check on the FBI?

00:38:30.000 That was appalling.

00:38:30.000 It's objectively true.

00:38:31.000 But President Trump was right.

00:38:32.000 Yeah.

00:38:32.000 And they just backed off.

00:38:34.000 Yeah.

00:38:34.000 Huge amounts of data were left out of that, including, like, just, some cities did not submit their murder data, and I'm gonna guess it's probably the more disordered ones that didn't catch up, because they changed their crime reporting standards.

00:38:46.000 And even that framing, oh, crime is going down.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, because crime went up a ton in 21 and 22, and 2020 because of a giant left-wing-backed,

00:38:57.000 you know, reckoning, as they called it.

00:38:59.000 So yeah, it's going down.

00:39:00.000 It's also way higher than it was in 2017, 2018, or 2019.

00:39:06.000 Period.

00:39:07.000 And in some cities, it's still going up.

00:39:09.000 In some cities, it's actually exploding right now.

00:39:12.000 And for them to just frame it as, oh, well, actually, the FBI says crime is going down.

00:39:17.000 It's just, it's revolting that they do this.

00:39:19.000 It is insane that these people can call themselves journalists and behave this way.

00:39:23.000 The essence that could have been better flushed out is Kamala Harris saying, I will fix things if you vote me into office, says the woman currently in office. 1.00

00:39:30.000 Yeah!

00:39:31.000 And that needs to be repeated ad nauseum.

00:39:34.000 Repeated, repeated.

00:39:35.000 Jack, what are we seeing online here?

00:39:38.000 Jack, what are your thoughts to some people in the audience that feel as if Trump was so outnumbered, was so outgunned that, you know, this is going to impact the election a lot?

00:39:46.000 Talk about how debates don't always impact election results and the need to get up the next day and keep working.

00:39:51.000 Look, this debate comes at a time where the situation was close.

00:39:57.000 It was already a close race.

00:39:59.000 Remember, most national polls Had it within 2-3 points, or Trump was up a little bit here, Kamala was up a little bit there, but the swing states always come down to 50-50.

00:40:07.000 Again, this is going to be a marginal election.

00:40:11.000 And at the end of the day, I think most people have already kind of priced in where they stand on Donald Trump.

00:40:18.000 One debate is not going to change people's opinions on Donald Trump because he's been, remember, he's been in the political eye now for a decade.

00:40:27.000 People have made their decision and they've broken with this past view of that the mainstream

00:40:32.000 media has any truth.

00:40:33.000 And by the way, for a lot of the, think of the, think of the trajectory of this.

00:40:39.000 So the media does this political struggle session with president Trump, the Maoist struggle

00:40:42.000 session right at the time that so many independents have come around to waking up people like

00:40:48.000 Bill Ackman, people like Sean McGuire, people like Elon Musk waking up to all of the mainstream

00:40:54.000 media lies about Donald Trump, people like RFK Jr.

00:40:57.000 Then they run into something like this.

00:40:59.000 Guess what?

00:41:00.000 This just confirms that the corporate media does, and by the way, it was the corporate media, and this is something that, I remember I said this after the last debate, so I'm gonna be consistent here.

00:41:10.000 The corporate media ganged up on Joe Biden after the last debate, And I called that a political coup, and now they are attempting a political coup of President Trump.

00:41:20.000 They are attempting to shape and define the election itself.

00:41:25.000 So that's why it's going to fall to we, the people, the same way it always falls to we, the people.

00:41:30.000 That's why I'm up here in Pennsylvania.

00:41:32.000 That's why I'm going to be going across Pennsylvania all through September, all through October.

00:41:35.000 We're doing the Get Out the Vote rallies.

00:41:37.000 We're doing the ballot drives.

00:41:38.000 We're doing the PHAs with Cliff Maloney, with Scott Pressler.

00:41:41.000 Folks, It's going to come down to the ballots.

00:41:44.000 The media is trying to shape the narrative.

00:41:46.000 But if you don't do the ballots, by the way, we're not talking a lot.

00:41:49.000 We're talking about if just 55% of the ballots were returned Let's go to Trump.

00:41:56.000 Thank you.

00:41:56.000 in 2024 than Trump's president, okay?

00:41:59.000 Just 50%, we're talking about ballots that are already out, Republicans that didn't return their ballots.

00:42:05.000 All you have to do is go and reach out to these people, and we're talking about maybe 100,000 people,

00:42:10.000 but do you do that in terms of volunteers?

00:42:12.000 One second, one second, one second.

00:42:13.000 Trump is in the spin room right now, as predicted.

00:42:15.000 Can we throw to that right now?

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00:42:18.000 Let's throw to Trump.

00:42:19.000 Thank you, thank you, Kylie.

00:42:20.000 Whenever there's an audience, we know that the former president likes to be part of it,

00:42:24.000 So he has essentially taken over and.

00:42:27.000 And there is a scramble here on the spin room floor.

00:42:32.000 Let's go to Jay O'Brien.

00:42:33.000 I think you're right there in the middle of it.

00:42:35.000 Jay, what's going on?

00:42:36.000 Donald Trump has just walked into the spin room here.

00:42:38.000 He's walking here.

00:42:39.000 Mr. Trump, we're live on ABC News here, sir.

00:42:42.000 Mr. Trump.

00:42:43.000 I think he's about to talk.

00:42:44.000 Here we go.

00:42:46.000 So we thought it was our best debate ever.

00:42:48.000 It was my best debate ever, I think.

00:42:51.000 And we had a, it was very interesting. 0.95

00:42:53.000 It showed how weak they are, how pathetic they are, and what they're doing to destroy our country and the border with foreign trade, with everything. 1.00

00:43:03.000 And I think it was the best debate I've ever, personally, that I've had. 0.98

00:43:06.000 We're getting polls that show 92 to 6.

00:43:10.000 88 to 11.

00:43:11.000 We're having a lot of great polls that just came out.

00:43:15.000 There are polls, I guess, phone polls and lots of other polls, but you see the polls.

00:43:20.000 A very important debate.

00:43:21.000 Now, she wants to do another one because she got beaten tonight, but I don't know if we're going to do another one.

00:43:26.000 I wouldn't mind.

00:43:26.000 How did she get into your head tonight, sir?

00:43:29.000 The polls are indicating that we got 90%, 60%, 72%, 71%, and 89%.

00:43:38.000 So the polls are very good, but beyond the polls, I felt very good.

00:43:42.000 I had a good time doing it.

00:43:44.000 I hate to speak about our country so negatively, but that's what happened.

00:43:48.000 They've ruined our country.

00:43:49.000 They've destroyed our country.

00:43:51.000 So, I hope you're all having a good time.

00:43:54.000 But it was a very interesting evening.

00:43:56.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:43:56.000 So confident you won tonight.

00:43:59.000 Why are you here?

00:43:59.000 Why not let the performance speak for itself?

00:44:01.000 Well, I think it did.

00:44:02.000 But people said, would I come here?

00:44:03.000 And I made an obligation to a couple of people that I'm going to do their show.

00:44:08.000 But it was a... I thought it was a great night.

00:44:11.000 Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, you talked...

00:44:18.000 I have no idea.

00:44:19.000 Mr. President, when Republicans are complaining about moderators, does that mean that it wasn't a good night?

00:44:26.000 Were you not prepared?

00:44:27.000 No, I thought the moderators were very unfair, but it basically was three on one.

00:44:32.000 But I thought they were very unfair, the moderators.

00:44:34.000 Everybody did.

00:44:36.000 But despite that, they're saying that the debate was... Mr. President, is the president prepared for that kind of debate?

00:44:42.000 Yeah, I assume the moderators would be bad because that right there is the worst of all the news networks, in my opinion, and it always has been.

00:44:50.000 Yeah.

00:44:51.000 Why won't you commit to a second debate with Kamala Harris? 0.93

00:44:56.000 She wants a second debate because she lost tonight very badly.

00:44:59.000 So they immediately called for a second debate because they lost.

00:45:04.000 So we'll, you know, think about that.

00:45:06.000 But she immediately called for a second.

00:45:08.000 Look, we're looking at polls.

00:45:11.000 We're looking at polls.

00:45:12.000 The worst poll that we've had was 71 that I see.

00:45:15.000 71% to like 24 or 25 or something.

00:45:20.000 Get out of the way! 0.99

00:45:22.000 Get out of the way! 0.99

00:45:24.000 That's the truck I'm after.

00:45:26.000 Alright, wait. So if you still have me, he's walked a little bit away from us.

00:45:30.000 Is there another feed we can take, guys?

00:45:32.000 You won't be able to hear him well, but one of the things you did hear was a question just asked by our...

00:45:36.000 Did ABC just cut him off again?

00:45:38.000 They just cut him off again!

00:45:40.000 He's on Fox right now.

00:45:41.000 He's on Sky News right now.

00:45:43.000 He's on ABC, sort of.

00:45:44.000 He's on Newsmax.

00:45:46.000 This was very smart of him to do.

00:45:48.000 Objectively smart.

00:45:49.000 Get back in the arena.

00:45:50.000 Get the cameras on you.

00:45:51.000 Get on message.

00:45:54.000 Oh, by the way, they're eating the dogs is also trending on Twitter.

00:45:57.000 That's what he said in the debate, actually, right?

00:45:59.000 If we can find another feed, guys, that'd be great.

00:46:01.000 But for the record, they're eating the cats, not the dogs.

00:46:04.000 Cats and dogs living together on the dinner plate.

00:46:07.000 He said he said they're eating the cats.

00:46:08.000 They're eating the dogs.

00:46:11.000 I mean, I'd love to get another feed up here, but I think that, you know, people seeing President Trump Just seeing very nonchalant being up there and able to be surrounded by media talk the way that he is show projecting calm.

00:46:26.000 You know, I think it's it does a lot to kind of push back on I've seen some of these completely wild takes on Twitter people being like all doom and gloom and they're just blackmailing out there for really no reason whatsoever.

00:46:38.000 And then He just walks right out there.

00:46:41.000 Hey guys, how you doing?

00:46:43.000 Yeah, you having a good time with the debate?

00:46:44.000 Yeah, it was three on one.

00:46:45.000 It was very, very biased, very, very unfair.

00:46:48.000 But again, he's willing to show that he's right there.

00:46:51.000 And so why does she want another debate so bad? 1.00

00:46:53.000 She wants another one very quickly.

00:46:55.000 All right, we'll see about that.

00:46:56.000 By the way, he was the one who proposed more debates early on, not her.

00:47:01.000 She was the one who wanted to trim this to one debate.

00:47:03.000 Now she is potentially talking about another one, but he proposed, I believe, three when we originally went into all of this. 0.90

00:47:10.000 The idea that he has any worry about having a debate, it's ridiculous.

00:47:15.000 It's actually the opposite of reality.

00:47:17.000 And of course, ABC, like you said, cut him off the same way that ABC was cutting him off all night.

00:47:23.000 Oh, we can't get our microphones there.

00:47:25.000 Yeah, all of your microphones are there.

00:47:27.000 Again, this is a time where people have to just look at it and say, you know what?

00:47:32.000 This is an election that we're in.

00:47:35.000 It was never going to be an easy election, okay?

00:47:40.000 Someone took a shot at President Trump, alright?

00:47:43.000 By the way, when he brought that up, he was cut off by ABC, cut off by David Muir, and he was... The next question never came up.

00:47:52.000 And by the way, how disgraceful.

00:47:53.000 Not even a question about him getting shot by the ABC.

00:47:56.000 So we have J6.

00:47:58.000 J6, which is four years ago, but not J13, which was less than two months ago.

00:48:03.000 Like, how can you bring up one without the other?

00:48:06.000 We have one of the most horrific acts in global history.

00:48:12.000 It's just exhausting.

00:48:13.000 Sorry to cut you off there, Jack.

00:48:14.000 We're trying to get another feed.

00:48:15.000 Donald Trump is live in the spin room right now.

00:48:17.000 Okay, David.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:20.000 Let's go to members.charliekirk.com.

00:48:23.000 Daisy, let's send them. 0.67

00:48:24.000 Blake, you have a thought here?

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00:48:30.000 We have BrownCK.

00:48:32.000 He says, mad respect for you, Charlie.

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00:48:36.000 We were there too.

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00:48:38.000 We have Matthew Matthias says, I love Blake.

00:48:43.000 I also love Blake.

00:48:44.000 So I'm inclined to agree with that one.

00:48:48.000 And, Veteran RN, donating another $50, he says, Charlie, the local election office won't allow me to be an observer at the polls, probably because I'm a January 6th subject.

00:48:57.000 But, you know, that's okay.

00:49:00.000 You can volunteer in a lot of other ways, that's all I'll say.

00:49:04.000 If they won't let you do that, there's a million other ways to get involved.

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00:49:47.000 President Trump is just walking around right now, and yeah, it's hard to kind of even hear him in the spin room here.

00:49:55.000 Boy, that was a corporate media drive-by.

00:49:57.000 In the Great Rush Limbaugh, right Tyler?

00:50:00.000 That was a drive-by shooting by the corporate media.

00:50:05.000 You know, I think people usually think of CNN as really biased or the Washington Post, but really, I think the true bastions of some of the most outrageous bias are just old-school network news, those people.

00:50:21.000 And they don't get as much attention because they're not doing 24-hour news cycles every single day, but there are some nasty people at those.

00:50:27.000 It's sort of, who's the guy who runs The Onion now?

00:50:30.000 I don't know.

00:50:32.000 What about Ben Collins?

00:50:32.000 I can't remember his name.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, Ben Collins.

00:50:34.000 He was at NBC.

00:50:35.000 Just a guy at NBC News. 0.95

00:50:36.000 And he was mentally unbalanced, man. 0.92

00:50:39.000 That guy was on Twitter having mental breakdowns every day. 0.85

00:50:41.000 Easily one of the most biased reporters ever.

00:50:43.000 And also one of the least funny people ever.

00:50:45.000 So now he's off running The Onion.

00:50:47.000 And, well, I haven't seen any Onion articles linked lately.

00:50:51.000 So Tyler, your thoughts on the drive-by media and that term from Rush?

00:50:55.000 Drive-by media did a drive-by debate tonight.

00:50:58.000 It should have been expected.

00:50:59.000 I mean, honestly, this should have been the entire debate prep was knowing that that was coming.

00:51:05.000 The last debate, the left looked at, if you just read through Twitter, the last debate, the left thought that they didn't go after Trump enough.

00:51:13.000 They didn't spend too much time on Trump.

00:51:15.000 You know, and it was a pretty balanced and fair, actually fairly conducted debate.

00:51:20.000 And that's part of the reason why Trump Yeah, exceeded expectations, I think beyond even what most people, most pundits came into the last debate.

00:51:28.000 And so, you know, you look at this one, I mean, this was just like incessant, you know, in real time fact checking, that should have been expected.

00:51:39.000 You know, I think, personally, and again, we could talk about this here.

00:51:43.000 But I would like to see Trump call the media a little bit more.

00:51:45.000 I think the preparation should say, hey, what is this?

00:51:49.000 You guys are all ganging up against me.

00:51:52.000 And I think just saying a couple more of those lines would have been also clipped a lot, because I think that would have framed the entire debate and then sunk it.

00:51:59.000 The media hates it.

00:52:01.000 When Trump has done that in the past, Fox News hated that when he did that with Megyn Kelly.

00:52:05.000 And so, you know, I think he should have done that.

00:52:09.000 Just like in a very specific way, and I don't think he needed to repeat it multiple times, but I think just saying it once would have gone a long way.

00:52:18.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

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00:52:23.000 Taylor Swift's post has 2.5 million likes so far.

00:52:25.000 She's disabled all the comments, though, as she has now officially endorsed Kamala Harris for the presidency.

00:52:34.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

00:52:35.000 Yes.

00:52:36.000 We have our own good ones.

00:52:36.000 One, we have Blake Thinnis.

00:52:40.000 I'm not sure how to say that, unfortunately, but they are a comment.

00:52:44.000 They say, Omaha loves you, Charlie.

00:52:46.000 So we've got that.

00:52:47.000 And then also, I want to flag, this is a good comment from our new ally, RFK Jr.

00:52:52.000 He tweeted this during the debate.

00:52:55.000 Vice President Harris sounds like she just admitted the COVID virus originated in a lab That was one of the conspiracy theories the Biden-Harris administration censored on the internet with the collusion of big tech, of course.

00:53:07.000 So just a reminder of the stakes and a reminder of one of the many things that these moderators could have, you know, followed up with Harris about if they weren't too busy teeing up the next softball about Trump.

00:53:19.000 Okay, let's play some more tape here from the debate, and also we're going to be linking arms with Real America's Voice sometime soon.

00:53:26.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

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00:53:30.000 I want to play some more tape here.

00:53:31.000 Do we have a cut sheet here just from some of the ones tonight?

00:53:34.000 Let me see here.

00:53:35.000 I'm trying to scroll up.

00:53:37.000 So much breaking news here.

00:53:38.000 President Trump goes to the spin room.

00:53:39.000 So many things happening.

00:53:43.000 Let me see.

00:53:43.000 I have a question.

00:53:44.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:53:47.000 So I saw a bunch of people saying, And Cernovich had tweeted, you know, it's so bizarre that she has these very detailed answers to questions, like the 80,000 Poles living in Pennsylvania, which, by the way, as a Pennsylvania Pole, yeah, I'm definitely not voting for you.

00:54:02.000 And none of the Polis people I know in my family or the others, like at the Czestochowa Festival last weekend, are definitely not voting for you. 1.00

00:54:10.000 But, you know, this really canned familiarity with the questions.

00:54:14.000 And it leads me to think is perhaps, perhaps, Perhaps we've got the script inverted.

00:54:19.000 Did ABC give Kamala questions or did Team Kamala give ABC the questions?

00:54:24.000 I mean, I can't get over how directly on point they seemed the entire night.

00:54:31.000 Okay, so now this gives me hope.

00:54:32.000 Everyone's just got to calm down.

00:54:33.000 How many times have I seen this?

00:54:35.000 The front page of the Drudge Report.

00:54:39.000 The end.

00:54:40.000 The walls are closing in.

00:54:44.000 Are we allowed to livestream right now with Fox News?

00:54:47.000 Are we allowed to take it?

00:54:49.000 Andrew, what are the rules with that?

00:54:54.000 I don't know.

00:54:55.000 We'll clip it.

00:54:57.000 Why don't we clip it?

00:54:58.000 Let's do clipping.

00:54:58.000 I want to be legal here.

00:55:02.000 Jack, can you read the quote from Tim Miller?

00:55:05.000 Tim Mueller from the Bulwark, and I believe he's in the spin room just across town here in Philadelphia.

00:55:11.000 And Tim says, just spoke with Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham in the spin room, and he said the debate team should be fired and Trump was unprepared, in quotes, disaster.

00:55:25.000 So that's Tim Miller.

00:55:26.000 He's like a never-Trumper-turned-liberal-type guy.

00:55:31.000 Snarky.

00:55:33.000 Look, here's the thing.

00:55:35.000 Kamala Harris, this is all she focused on for a couple weeks.

00:55:37.000 She didn't want to talk about anything else.

00:55:38.000 She didn't want to do anything else.

00:55:39.000 This is all she wanted to think about.

00:55:41.000 And she had her sequencing.

00:55:43.000 They trained her, if you hear A, do B.

00:55:47.000 Try to go to your 1, 2, 3 attack lines.

00:55:52.000 Again, rallies, McCain, former staffers.

00:55:55.000 Rallies, McCain, former staffers.

00:55:57.000 And she was playing offense almost all night, where I would have liked to see Donald Trump How many times have we seen this?

00:56:06.000 Have we seen this play?

00:56:07.000 How many times we need to say, we need to play... Donald Trump is the best offensive figure and he's not the best defensive figure.

00:56:13.000 He's at the best when he's litigating the case, prosecuting the case, not when he's receiving it.

00:56:17.000 He's kind of like a soccer team with 20 forwards and no goalie.

00:56:22.000 No, that's well said, yes.

00:56:25.000 That's right.

00:56:26.000 Can we get the Drudge Report thing up here, by the way?

00:56:27.000 This is how I know everything's going to be okay.

00:56:29.000 Everyone should calm down.

00:56:30.000 I'm going to tell you when to worry.

00:56:31.000 I've got to put on the Rush Limbaugh hat now, because Rush is not with us.

00:56:34.000 Take a deep breath.

00:56:35.000 This is not a game changer.

00:56:37.000 Everyone's freaking out, oh my goodness.

00:56:39.000 At least on Drudge.

00:56:40.000 Again, people in my world are not freaking out.

00:56:42.000 But Drudge says, the end, in a picture of Donald Trump with a bunch of ducks and cats.

00:56:49.000 Can we get the end up on screen?

00:56:52.000 They say this is it.

00:56:53.000 The night Trump lost it all.

00:56:55.000 This is not correct, okay?

00:56:57.000 That's not an accurate depiction of at all what happened in this debate.

00:57:00.000 Do we have Donald Trump on Hannity right now?

00:57:02.000 Are we able to do picture-in-picture?

00:57:04.000 Yes?

00:57:05.000 Let's turn up the audio here.

00:57:06.000 This is live President Trump.

00:57:07.000 And she's done a terrible job as vice president. 0.97

00:57:10.000 And look, she's the worst vice president we've ever had. 1.00

00:57:13.000 Keep our mics on, everybody.

00:57:15.000 The worst border ever in the history of the world, not just in our country.

00:57:18.000 I would have liked to seen a price gouging mentioned.

00:57:20.000 We didn't get that, did we?

00:57:22.000 They're destroying our country.

00:57:24.000 I'm very aware.

00:57:26.000 And if we look at her tax plan, which is, okay, price gauging or gouging, and the largest tax increase not only in American history, but world history, her campaign is saying tonight, Washington Post is reporting, that she wants a second debate.

00:57:40.000 What's your answer?

00:57:41.000 Because she lost.

00:57:42.000 She wants it because she lost.

00:57:43.000 Do you have an answer?

00:57:45.000 Well, I don't know.

00:57:46.000 I have to think about it, but if you won the debate, I sort of think maybe I shouldn't do it.

00:57:50.000 Why should I do another debate?

00:57:52.000 She immediately said, we want another.

00:57:55.000 You know what happens when you're a prizefighter and you lose?

00:57:57.000 You immediately want a new fight.

00:57:59.000 You want a rematch.

00:58:00.000 You want a rematch.

00:58:00.000 The guy that won is sort of happy and thinking about it.

00:58:03.000 Would you be inclined to say yes?

00:58:05.000 Maybe if it was on a fair network, I would do that.

00:58:08.000 But I think let Hannity moderate it.

00:58:10.000 Yeah, no, I think that would be fair.

00:58:12.000 Like I did Newsom and Ron DeSantis.

00:58:13.000 That would be fair.

00:58:14.000 You would be fair, actually.

00:58:14.000 I would be fair.

00:58:15.000 You want to know the truth.

00:58:16.000 I'd let you both talk.

00:58:17.000 I'd let you go at each other. 0.87

00:58:18.000 I thought they would be fair.

00:58:19.000 They weren't.

00:58:20.000 But I felt very comfortable.

00:58:22.000 We have the best policy.

00:58:23.000 She has no policy. 0.98

00:58:25.000 You know one thing that interested me because I've known you for a long time and one of the things that I was watching in you tonight is that you were just You are all business.

00:58:35.000 You know, a lot of times when you're at your rallies or we do a town hall, they're destroying our country.

00:58:40.000 Is that what it was?

00:58:41.000 Is it the seriousness of the moment?

00:58:42.000 There's nothing to smile about.

00:58:44.000 You know, I'm a good smiler, but there's nothing to smile about.

00:58:48.000 They're destroying.

00:58:49.000 We have 21 million people that have been released into our country,

00:58:52.000 and many of them are criminals and terrorists and people from mental institutions.

00:58:57.000 Lachlan Riley, Rachel Lauren, Jocelyn Nungarian. 0.97

00:58:59.000 All dead.

00:58:59.000 You know, it feels like Sean is getting Trump.

00:59:05.000 You've met the families of Afghanistan.

00:59:06.000 that even we've mentioned on this feed, but she would have brought up.

00:59:09.000 So it's a good opportunity to sort of close the loop on stuff.

00:59:13.000 You've met all the families.

00:59:14.000 She met the families of Afghanistan.

00:59:16.000 Nungari. 0.56

00:59:17.000 I met, I met.

00:59:18.000 You met Nungari, sir.

00:59:19.000 Yeah, I met five or six of them.

00:59:22.000 Not even talking about the 13 soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan,

00:59:26.000 the families of the 13 soldiers, which Biden won't even talk to.

00:59:30.000 And he's the one that caused their death, just as if he had a pistol in his hand.

00:59:34.000 He and her caused their death.

00:59:37.000 Just as if literally they had a gun in their hand.

00:59:40.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:59:42.000 When you're in a situation like that, what is going through your mind?

00:59:47.000 What goes on behind the scenes?

00:59:49.000 How do you prepare for your debates?

00:59:51.000 Well, I think you sort of... I always say I've been preparing all my life for these debates.

00:59:55.000 You know, you can't go in like she did.

00:59:57.000 She goes into a room and she memorized lines, more or less.

01:00:01.000 I thought I got one cute one.

01:00:02.000 I'm talking when I said... I'm talking when she started interrupting me. 0.94

01:00:06.000 Well, she said that to Mike Pence.

01:00:07.000 I'm speaking... I wanted to get even for that.

01:00:08.000 You know, that was not very nice what you did.

01:00:11.000 But no, I thought it was... We're getting great reviews.

01:00:14.000 It's interesting that the one thing, one line that really stuck out that did make me laugh out loud is when you said you're gonna send her a MAGA hat.

01:00:21.000 There are a lot of positions now, all of a sudden she's come over to your side.

01:00:25.000 She's been against the border wall, she's been against... There's only one problem.

01:00:28.000 If you have a one immediately from the day after that election, everything would go back

01:00:33.000 to confiscate your guns and forget about oil and everything else.

01:00:37.000 You know, they were cutting back on oil way back.

01:00:39.000 They got rid of Anwar, the biggest oil site, perhaps, in the world in Alaska. 0.89

01:00:44.000 They did things that are so bad and so destructive.

01:00:48.000 But energy prices started doubling up.

01:00:51.000 And she immediately went back to the Trump plan. 0.92

01:00:54.000 But I would have been now four times higher than they are right now because that was three and a half years ago.

01:00:59.000 Right.

01:01:00.000 When she cut it, she cut everything out.

01:01:01.000 She went to wind and went to all this other stuff that doesn't work from an economic standpoint and even a visual standpoint.

01:01:08.000 I don't get the wind.

01:01:10.000 You take these gorgeous plains and deserts and all this stuff.

01:01:13.000 They put these windmills up, they go up like a 30-story building in some cases.

01:01:18.000 They destroy everything, they cut out all, and the environmentalists say, aren't they

01:01:22.000 wonderful?

01:01:23.000 But it's the most expensive form of energy and it's never going to do for our country.

01:01:26.000 So if we look at the issues on the economy, on immigration, on law and order, on energy,

01:01:35.000 and America's role in the world.

01:01:36.000 Yeah.

01:01:38.000 Is there anything you could point to that you would say they have been successful on?

01:01:42.000 No.

01:01:42.000 They have been unsuccessful in everything.

01:01:45.000 And even the economy, I said, as part of the economy, you've let 21 million people, more than that, I think, with all the gotaways.

01:01:52.000 By the way, we're not terrorists, and we do have the murders and the rapes and the violent crimes.

01:01:57.000 Oh, and you haven't seen anything yet.

01:01:58.000 When do you see it in the months to come?

01:02:00.000 You know what scares me, and I've said this on the air, is by having open borders, unvetted illegal immigrants, that I don't think it's a matter of if, I think it's a matter of when that this country is going to be attacked. 1.00

01:02:12.000 If you look at Springfield, Ohio, look at what's happening there.

01:02:16.000 You look at Aurora in Colorado, these beautiful little towns and little cities, small cities.

01:02:22.000 They're being taken over by illegal migrants. 0.99

01:02:26.000 I mean, the people that poured in, and they have weapons like our military doesn't have.

01:02:30.000 You know, they have AK-47s.

01:02:31.000 They have weapons like our military doesn't have.

01:02:35.000 And, you know, some sheriff in one of these towns... Members.CharlieKirk.com Cut out of that, guys.

01:02:40.000 Look at all those new hats that Daisy just brought in. 0.94

01:02:42.000 I want to thank Look, you guys are going to have to withstand a lot of propaganda right now.

01:02:56.000 There's going to be a hurricane, a whirlwind of propaganda.

01:03:01.000 It's more important than ever for you to take a deep breath.

01:03:03.000 For you to know that it is the boring stuff that will determine this election.

01:03:07.000 A rigged debate will not win or lose this election.

01:03:11.000 Kamala Harris is gonna raise a bunch of money off of this. 0.96

01:03:13.000 The media- I have all the networks up, by the way.

01:03:15.000 I have every network up right now.

01:03:17.000 The CNN's doing a focus group.

01:03:19.000 It's not gonna go well for Trump.

01:03:20.000 I can tell you right now.

01:03:21.000 CNN focus group.

01:03:22.000 Whatever.

01:03:22.000 Gotta fight through it.

01:03:23.000 Gotta push through it.

01:03:24.000 Gotta navigate through it.

01:03:25.000 And the question is then, what do you do?

01:03:27.000 You have to then work out of a place of, hey, we got to play offense.

01:03:30.000 We have a better candidate.

01:03:31.000 We have a better message.

01:03:33.000 And that Kamala Harris rehearsed a bunch of lines that were designed for the exact intent to try and provoke Donald Trump. 1.00

01:03:39.000 Jack, let's go back in the Wayback Machine.

01:03:42.000 The first debate back in 2020 was not Donald Trump's best, was not his best moment.

01:03:47.000 Despite all of that and what we were up against, not a great debate, COVID, race riots, Floydapalooza, we fell 42,000 ballots short in 2020, Jack.

01:03:56.000 If anyone thinks that all of a sudden that this is going to have a major impact on the race, it will only if you allow it to happen.

01:04:01.000 Jack, your thoughts.

01:04:03.000 Yeah, look, this was not 2020.

01:04:05.000 This was not that first debate in 2020.

01:04:06.000 Of course, we all remember that.

01:04:08.000 We remember that moment about Hunter Biden that just didn't go well.

01:04:11.000 And then, of course, we also remember the debate in 2020 when what was it that made President Trump upset in that debate?

01:04:18.000 Again, It was the moderators.

01:04:20.000 And at that time, it was the fact that they were fact checking him over the Hunter Biden laptop, that they were not letting you get the truth out about what happened there.

01:04:28.000 They weren't letting him talk about the Biden corruption, again, all of which came to be true.

01:04:33.000 And of course, they know That this is something that President Trump does not like.

01:04:39.000 He doesn't like when they cut him off, and by the way, nobody likes this.

01:04:44.000 Who wouldn't be upset when you have somebody cutting you off and then lying to you and not letting you, and their job is supposed to be the referee, their job is supposed to be, again, to moderate between the two candidates, but we didn't have a moderation here.

01:04:57.000 What we had was an assault on one candidate where the other candidate is given a free lane

01:05:03.000 to walk down into the end zone.

01:05:05.000 Totally rigged, goes beyond what this was.

01:05:08.000 It was a struggle session.

01:05:11.000 They left a clear open path for her to walk all the way through 0.64

01:05:14.000 while he's facing attacks from her, attacks from them, being cut off left and right,

01:05:18.000 et cetera, et cetera.

01:05:20.000 And so, you know, people wanna talk about, oh, this is 2020, excuse me, number one,

01:05:24.000 It's not 2020 in the sense that this wasn't anywhere near that debate.

01:05:29.000 It's also number two, it's not 2020 because Democrats don't have their magic wand of the COVID ballots anymore.

01:05:35.000 The ballot processes are there in many states.

01:05:37.000 But guess what?

01:05:38.000 It's not as it's not comparable to where the operation they had in 2020.

01:05:42.000 They don't have the soccer box.

01:05:43.000 They don't have a lot of the things they had going for them.

01:05:45.000 And oh, by the way, you've got organizations now like turning point action, action, action.

01:05:50.000 You got the VHS with Cliff Maloney.

01:05:52.000 He and I got into it with And so we are fighting fire with fire, and they know that they don't even have the numbers.

01:05:58.000 Just go look at the numbers, folks.

01:06:00.000 And Scott Presser, of course, he, I believe, and Cliff are having a debate watch party right now

01:06:04.000 over at the Philly Expo Center.

01:06:06.000 And so we are fighting fire with fire, and they know that they don't even have the numbers.

01:06:13.000 Just go look at the numbers, folks.

01:06:14.000 They are down from where they were at this point in 2020, and they're gonna have to do a lot of work to catch up

01:06:22.000 with their mail-in ballot, with their absentee ballot program.

01:06:24.000 Meanwhile, Republicans in all of the swing states of the work that's being done in Pennsylvania,

01:06:29.000 Charlie, the work that you're doing in Arizona, the work that Tyler is doing across the country,

01:06:32.000 that we're all doing across the country, it's making an impact.

01:06:36.000 And that's how the race is won or lost.

01:06:39.000 Remember, it was the Democrats that threw this thing into a ballot collection process, not us.

01:06:45.000 We said we didn't want to do this, but now here we are.

01:06:48.000 And guess what?

01:06:48.000 We're playing your own game and we're going to beat you at your own game.

01:06:53.000 I think that's really well said.

01:06:54.000 Andrew, we haven't had a chance for you to chime in for a little bit.

01:06:56.000 This is information warfare, and it's three-on-one.

01:06:59.000 A lot of moderate voters are seeing the corporate media for who they are and what they believe.

01:07:04.000 Andrew, your thoughts?

01:07:06.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a great clip coming out from Ron DeSantis.

01:07:09.000 Maybe our team can grab it.

01:07:11.000 He, you know, he was just straight upset.

01:07:14.000 This was a three-on-one debate.

01:07:15.000 I think that's absolutely true.

01:07:18.000 And the soft brains out there are going to take this in the mouth breathers and be like, ah, Trump won, Trump lost, Trump lost, Kamala won.

01:07:26.000 I'm telling you, I've been polling people.

01:07:28.000 I've been texting people.

01:07:30.000 Zero movement from anybody.

01:07:31.000 Even the Democrats were like, eh, it was a little bit phony.

01:07:34.000 I thought she did well.

01:07:35.000 The Republicans are like, oh, Trump maybe missed a few moments to hit her where it hurts.

01:07:39.000 But, uh, like his policies are obviously better for America.

01:07:43.000 A couple of my friends that were undecided, they said, I didn't even watch the debate.

01:07:48.000 That was my two answers I got.

01:07:49.000 So, uh, and there's a clip that we're going to be pulling as well.

01:07:54.000 Uh, that's the panel that one of the Nets did on undecided voters.

01:07:58.000 None of them moved.

01:07:59.000 Okay, so let's go back in time to and by the way, I totally think Trump should take the second debate if given the opportunity.

01:08:07.000 I think he totally should.

01:08:08.000 I think his approach tonight is totally fine.

01:08:09.000 It's like, hey, listen, let me look at the rules.

01:08:12.000 Let's get the rules right.

01:08:13.000 Let's get the network right.

01:08:14.000 Let's get the moderators right. 0.99

01:08:17.000 After tonight, that is all the more important.

01:08:19.000 But I totally think he should take the Build on this and he will have a great performance in debate too.

01:08:27.000 Um, so I think I'm, I'm team take, take the second debate.

01:08:30.000 Absolutely.

01:08:31.000 Um, so I would just say this isn't going to move the needle.

01:08:34.000 And if we look back to 2020, where everybody said he lost this first debate, then it came back stronger.

01:08:40.000 So I would say this, and he was down nationally in the national polls, according to the pollsters at the time, four points on the averages.

01:08:50.000 Still came 42,000 ballots short to Jack's point.

01:08:54.000 We have augmented the GOTV part of this race significantly since then.

01:09:00.000 There's lots more people out in the field, lots more full-time paid staffers, professionals trained up using better technology, better data than we ever had in 2020.

01:09:08.000 42,000 ballots, We are tied, if not up, according to New York Times, Sienna.

01:09:14.000 We've retaken the enthusiasm advantage.

01:09:18.000 A lot of the models have Trump up.

01:09:19.000 We never had any of that in 2020.

01:09:21.000 There is a lot on this board that is very, very positive.

01:09:25.000 The people are fed up with the Biden-Harris economy.

01:09:28.000 Everyday people going to the grocery store is a walking ad for President Trump.

01:09:33.000 We can't forget, structurally, How much we have the wind at our back in this election.

01:09:39.000 And so a couple of things.

01:09:40.000 Don't think it's going to move the needle.

01:09:41.000 Don't think it moved undecideds.

01:09:43.000 I think RFK's endorsement moved way more people who were in the middle, in the squishy middle.

01:09:48.000 And I think take the debate.

01:09:50.000 I think Trump's going to absolutely smash if he gets another chance.

01:09:54.000 I think that's exactly right.

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01:10:06.000 Manny. 0.94

01:10:07.000 John.

01:10:08.000 Kirk.

01:10:09.000 Zach, Martha, Haram, Lori, Ryan.

01:10:12.000 Imagine if I named my son Kirk.

01:10:14.000 What if you named your son Harambe?

01:10:16.000 Harambe?

01:10:17.000 We got Denise earlier. 1.00

01:10:20.000 Do you think we'll get her brother?

01:10:21.000 I'm not sure.

01:10:22.000 This is MSNBC asking undecided voters to react.

01:10:27.000 Again, we're anticipating this, so brace for impact.

01:10:30.000 Play Cut 100.

01:10:33.000 Absolutely, because he was intentionally sensationalizing and giving false information, essentially disinformation.

01:10:44.000 Is that an issue that motivates the two of you?

01:10:46.000 Is that going to make you want to vote for perhaps Kamala Harris, Vice President Harris?

01:10:52.000 It's an important factor.

01:10:54.000 There's just so many other things that concern me more.

01:11:00.000 I can't say that that's my top.

01:11:02.000 That's not my top.

01:11:04.000 So that was on the abortion topic.

01:11:06.000 Right, Jack?

01:11:07.000 I mean, that doesn't seem like a slam dunk, right?

01:11:11.000 You were preparing me for Race for Impact.

01:11:13.000 I'm like, this was the primed MSNBC undecided voter.

01:11:18.000 You would think that that's the person who's going to be like, look, you know, the abortion thing is very concerning to me.

01:11:25.000 Reproductive rights are very important.

01:11:27.000 I want to preserve them for my daughters, my granddaughters, whatever.

01:11:31.000 And she didn't say that.

01:11:32.000 She said, yeah, it's important, but there's other important issues.

01:11:37.000 And one huge thing here is you got to say that.

01:11:41.000 I will also point out that Kamala Harris is a very strong abortion. 0.90

01:11:44.000 President Trump's best answers of the night all had to do with war and foreign policy.

01:11:49.000 Kamala Harris, I just have to say this, by the way.

01:11:52.000 Kamala Harris stood on the side of the warmongers.

01:11:55.000 She repeated George W. Bush, Dick Cheney talking points up there.

01:11:59.000 She repeated talking points that we haven't heard since the days of it.

01:12:02.000 She sounded like Nikki Haley.

01:12:04.000 She sounded like Nikki Haley.

01:12:05.000 She sounded like Dick Cheney. 0.53

01:12:06.000 She sounded like Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:12:09.000 And this is why we were told earlier before the debate that she talked to Hillary before she went in.

01:12:14.000 This is endless war.

01:12:15.000 This is nuclear annihilation. 0.95

01:12:17.000 This is your kids and your soldiers being killed.

01:12:19.000 This is Abbey Gate all over the world again and again and again.

01:12:22.000 But the biggest thing is that even though Trump was best on that, we didn't hear a lot of talk about the economy tonight, did we?

01:12:28.000 And that's the number one issue.

01:12:30.000 ABC knew that the economy is the number one issue, the economy is the best issue for Trump, and I would argue and submit, by the way, that they deliberately shaded the debate so they could get into all of these other things rather than really focus on the economy, which is going to be the driver for the election.

01:12:45.000 Yeah, and I want to be clear.

01:12:46.000 The first part on the economy on tariffs lasted about 10 minutes.

01:12:52.000 And there really wasn't a clear winner, right, Blake?

01:12:54.000 It was just kind of back and forth.

01:12:56.000 The abortion was the second topic.

01:12:57.000 I think we got a little too weedsy on abortion.

01:13:00.000 The moderators were very, very unfair on the abortion topic.

01:13:03.000 I'm so annoyed with that answer where they say, I think Trump was very sensationalist on that question.

01:13:08.000 No, Trump was totally accurate.

01:13:09.000 There are states where this is legal through birth.

01:13:11.000 The governor of Virginia has said, keep it legal through birth.

01:13:14.000 Tim Walz changed Minnesota's laws to make it so you were not nearly as legally exposed if you have a born-alive child and a botched abortion and it dies.

01:13:24.000 This is true.

01:13:25.000 And then he's sensational but not Kamala who's just like, your nine-year-old will be raped and have a miscarriage and you won't be allowed to treat it because Trump is going to helicopter in. 0.97

01:13:38.000 It's just this shrill insanity. 0.68

01:13:40.000 When Trump's position is, the states can vote on this.

01:13:43.000 But Blake, let me, and not necessarily play devil's advocate, but you remember how you were talking earlier about how she talks like a TV character, right?

01:13:51.000 This is the false reality that so many voters live in because of Hollywood.

01:13:57.000 And we actually wrote about this in the book, that this is the fried mental model that people have of red states. 0.98

01:14:02.000 When you talk about like Alabama, Arkansas, or Texas, or Mississippi, or Louisiana, they actually believe that's what goes on in red states.

01:14:10.000 They actually believe these things.

01:14:12.000 This is the Handmaid's Tale, this is all that stuff.

01:14:15.000 So, you know, you and I can sit here and say, oh, it's crazy, and it obviously is, but again, they don't believe that stuff because they have no clue what goes on other than what they see in Hollywood, versus they have no idea the fact that in Oregon, abortion is legal up to seven months.

01:14:34.000 It's on the books right now.

01:14:36.000 This isn't even just some hotline thing.

01:14:39.000 Up until birth is New Mexico, period.

01:14:41.000 So this is what they have no idea what goes on in red states and they don't know the truth about what goes on in

01:14:46.000 blue states.

01:14:46.000 So unfortunately, there's a reason that she say that Trump stuff seems, you know, seems theatrical and spectacular.

01:14:56.000 But Obama, yeah, Kamala's doesn't. 0.89

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01:15:34.000 So much to cover.

01:15:37.000 Ryan wants me to play Cut 101 saying that this woman listens to Charlie. 1.00

01:15:41.000 Was this on CNN?

01:15:42.000 Was this a CNN focus group?

01:15:44.000 Did she mention us, Ryan? Or she just listens to our talking points?

01:15:47.000 You're telling me for the first time.

01:15:49.000 Oh, our talking points? Okay, play cut 101.

01:15:52.000 What did you see that brought you to a conclusion?

01:15:55.000 I think it's important to remember that we are voting for the leader of our country

01:16:01.000 and not who we like the most or who we want in our wedding party,

01:16:05.000 but who is actually going to make our country better.

01:16:08.000 And we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before and we've gotten to see what they would do.

01:16:16.000 And when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office.

01:16:20.000 The economy was higher, inflation was lower.

01:16:22.000 Things were better overall, and now with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic.

01:16:29.000 And she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I just don't know if I can afford to take that risk.

01:16:37.000 I want to find this woman and send her a signed hat. 1.00

01:16:39.000 Wow.

01:16:40.000 That's an undecided voter.

01:16:41.000 What a great line.

01:16:41.000 That's an undecided voter after the debate.

01:16:43.000 Andrew, according to the media, you think that there wouldn't be anybody like this.

01:16:47.000 Andrew, that's very powerful.

01:16:48.000 That is on CNN saying that, you know, my life was better under Trump.

01:16:54.000 She said it better than I think anybody else did tonight.

01:16:56.000 Your thoughts, Andrew?

01:16:58.000 Well, and this is why we have to get out of our heads about this a little bit.

01:17:02.000 I'm telling you, every trip To a grocery store is a free Trump ad.

01:17:09.000 Every trip to fill up your tank is a free Trump ad.

01:17:12.000 When we have Frontline's reporters from Turning Point USA in Springfield, Ohio today,

01:17:18.000 and they're complaining about how they can't afford rent, how migrants have taken over all the facilities they can't. 0.58

01:17:25.000 They can't get social services.

01:17:27.000 They can't get Medicare, Medicaid cards, or whatever it was.

01:17:30.000 Their insurance rates are going through the roof.

01:17:34.000 I'm telling you, all of these things add up so much more than any spin you're gonna see tonight on ABC, CNN, MSNBC.

01:17:42.000 And we knew this going in that we're all gonna say that Kamala won.

01:17:45.000 We predicted that in the pre-show.

01:17:47.000 And it's everything that we're seeing though, anecdotally, after the fact from real voters,

01:17:52.000 people that actually have a say in this election, they're saying, yeah, it doesn't change my vote.

01:17:58.000 I don't know if I can afford to do this.

01:18:00.000 So listen, did Trump have his best night?

01:18:03.000 I don't think so.

01:18:04.000 Did he totally blow it?

01:18:05.000 Absolutely not.

01:18:06.000 Did he land a couple of punches?

01:18:08.000 A hundred percent.

01:18:09.000 Are so many people's minds made up across the country based on their lived experience?

01:18:15.000 Absolutely.

01:18:16.000 And the way that that woman put it at the end is perfectly said, I can't afford to take that risk.

01:18:21.000 for four more years of the same.

01:18:22.000 I literally cannot afford it.

01:18:25.000 And that's the bottom line.

01:18:26.000 That's what's driving people this election cycle.

01:18:29.000 She's an incumbent and we all know it. 1.00

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01:19:12.000 We have a guy who, I cannot read that name, has donkey in it.

01:19:18.000 He donated $20 and he said, maybe I missed it, but what is this border bill Trump supposedly shot down?

01:19:24.000 I'm trying to look into it.

01:19:25.000 So, this was a Republican senator, James Lankford, introduced a bill that would make it so we could let in, I think it was 10,000 people a day?

01:19:34.000 5,000 people?

01:19:35.000 It was some extremely high number of people a day.

01:19:38.000 And if it went above that amount, then you could do an emergency shutdown stuff.

01:19:43.000 But it was basically, we're going to have 2 million illegals every year, then it's a crisis.

01:19:48.000 It was really bad.

01:19:49.000 It was disgraceful that he brought it forward as a Republican option.

01:19:53.000 And he's basically just given Democrats ammo ever since.

01:19:57.000 The last few here.

01:19:58.000 AmericanPatriot3531 says elections are not won by rigged debates.

01:20:03.000 They are won by keeping the truth, outworking our opponents, and taking action.

01:20:07.000 Action.

01:20:09.000 You know, we're renaming Turning Point Action to Turning Point Action Action Action.

01:20:12.000 Heck yeah! 0.96

01:20:12.000 And then a person I've never heard of named Mikey McCoy says, Charlie, you donated $50. 0.96

01:20:18.000 Charlie, how could Taylor vote for someone like Kamabla when Trump is literally out there saving kittens?

01:20:25.000 Poor Meredith's life now hangs in the balance.

01:20:30.000 And isn't that true?

01:20:31.000 Is he implying that Haitians will hang Meredith?

01:20:34.000 You know, it says that it was the allegation that they were just kind of dangling from a tree branch, I think.

01:20:40.000 By the way, I'm glad President Trump brought up the pets thing.

01:20:43.000 It's 100% true. The more data we get, it's true.

01:20:46.000 We don't have evidence yet on dogs, but you know cats are a delicacy in Haitian culture.

01:20:51.000 It's like escargot.

01:20:53.000 It actually is one Christmas Eve.

01:20:54.000 No, no, it's a real thing, right, Jack? Cats are a delicacy in Haitian culture.

01:20:58.000 And so it's a voodoo spirit animal. 0.98

01:21:01.000 They don't have to eat like a separate thing, but yeah, it's traditionally they eat them on Christmas Eve.

01:21:10.000 And, you know, I've been going through and just finding old tweets of people in Haiti from five months ago, six months

01:21:16.000 ago, seven months ago, even three years ago in some cases where they're just

01:21:20.000 posting pictures of them cooking cats.

01:21:23.000 We have actually a video on a play there.

01:21:25.000 But yes, I mean, Blake, how predictable was it that he was going to bring up Springfield, Ohio?

01:21:30.000 I'm really happy we saw it.

01:21:31.000 They're going to, you know, I actually think they haven't flipped out about it that much yet.

01:21:34.000 I think they may have realized, oh, this could be dangerous because I think we're going to hear more and more stuff out of this town.

01:21:42.000 And if it's not the cats and dogs, it's going to be something else.

01:21:45.000 I totally agree.

01:21:46.000 Two things here.

01:21:47.000 They're doing focus groups everywhere.

01:21:48.000 We have our eyes on them because I'm actually really interested in them.

01:21:50.000 Number one, If this was a campaign, Kamala Harris' campaign, if they were confident, they would not have received the Taylor Swift endorsement on debate night.

01:22:00.000 Their internals are not where they need to be.

01:22:01.000 Number two, they would not be asking for another debate.

01:22:05.000 Someone who is confident about where their campaign is and how tonight went, they need to dig themselves out of a hole.

01:22:11.000 They are acting like a campaign in desperate measure.

01:22:15.000 They recently just did events in New Hampshire and Minnesota.

01:22:18.000 They have a lot of climbing up to do, right, Blake?

01:22:21.000 And you don't all of a sudden, you know, win a quote-unquote, oh, I won the debate, let's go do another.

01:22:26.000 Who cares who won or lost?

01:22:27.000 That's not important to me, okay?

01:22:28.000 One side's gonna say our side got it, they're gonna say, okay, whatever.

01:22:31.000 Meaning they need more juice, right, Blake?

01:22:35.000 They didn't get what they wanted tonight.

01:22:38.000 What's most important is Not, is like your psychological composure.

01:22:43.000 What they needed, the biggest gain they're going to get from this is not voters, it's just that they can go to donors and say like, things are alright, pony up some more money, you know, Kamala Mentum is still okay, and maybe some of them will believe that.

01:22:56.000 And on the same, for us, it's the most important thing is, you don't listen to people who scream at you and say like, ah, Trump lost, oh my gosh!

01:23:05.000 You don't.

01:23:05.000 You just don't listen to them.

01:23:06.000 You know, oh wow, they lied a bunch in the debate.

01:23:09.000 They had a bunch of rigged moderators.

01:23:11.000 We're still going all out.

01:23:12.000 Maximum intensity.

01:23:14.000 Sign up your friends.

01:23:15.000 Sign up your spouses.

01:23:16.000 Sign up your kids.

01:23:18.000 Your legal voting age kids.

01:23:19.000 We're not Democrats here.

01:23:20.000 And you...

01:23:23.000 Get out.

01:23:23.000 Get those ballots in.

01:23:24.000 You win the high score race for pieces of paper put into the box.

01:23:28.000 That's it.

01:23:28.000 It's whoever can get the most pieces of paper in a box in a short period of time.

01:23:32.000 Ready, set, go.

01:23:33.000 Jack, do you get the impression if Kamala wants another debate... Forget the debate performance. 0.98

01:23:38.000 I'm not interested in that.

01:23:39.000 Taylor Swift endorsement.

01:23:40.000 Is this how a winning campaign acts?

01:23:43.000 Well, you know, it's actually quite strange because it almost feels like there's something that they're not, they know something they're not telling us, right?

01:23:50.000 So a winning campaign says, we don't need to have another debate.

01:23:53.000 If you feel like you've won, like you put the nail in the coffin, then you said, we'll give them another, you would dangle it out.

01:24:00.000 You would say, we'll give them another debate.

01:24:02.000 If they deserve one, we'll give you another title shot. 0.96

01:24:04.000 If you deserve one.

01:24:05.000 And again, I think they're realizing.

01:24:08.000 That when you get beyond the nuts and bolts of things and really look under the hood, that this is a country, again, that is frustrated, a country that is angry with the current status quo of things, that does want change, that does have the righteous indignation.

01:24:24.000 And my friend Rahim Ghassan was writing a piece of this, that the mood of the country is much closer to the mood that Donald Trump espoused on stage tonight, not this sort of showy, flashy, oh, everything's going to be great.

01:24:37.000 You can look at me and my lines.

01:24:40.000 No, this is a country where people are going around saying, you know what, I'm sick of the tens of thousands of Haitians running rampant in my town, and I want someone to get them out of here and all of these jobs to go to the people that have lived here all along. 1.00

01:24:52.000 It's as simple as that.

01:24:54.000 Yes, and Andrew, I want to get in on that.

01:24:56.000 Just again, how a campaign acts is more important than what a campaign says.

01:25:01.000 They want another debate because they think tonight went well for them, and they know it's not yet enough.

01:25:05.000 Right, Blake?

01:25:06.000 And while they think that tonight went well for them, which I'm not totally on board for... By the way, Ryan, did I not predict that CNN poll?

01:25:13.000 I said the CNN poll is going to say around 65% of people thought Kamala won the debate.

01:25:18.000 63% according to the CNN poll.

01:25:19.000 It's all BS.

01:25:20.000 By the way, the ones in 2020 are even worse.

01:25:21.000 Yeah, I think it was about 70% for Biden.

01:25:28.000 But Blake, help me, play devil's advocate.

01:25:31.000 If Kamala was super happy with the current state that she's in, polling-wise, enthusiasm, do you demand another debate, especially after Taylor Swift endorsement, that quickly? 0.83

01:25:43.000 I think really I think the fact that Trump also says he wants another debate you come out and of course you say I want more debates because that's how you signal you don't think you lost basically and I think if if you're nervous about it later on you'll see maybe they'll try to like glide their way out of it and you know fuss over the rules or something something like that but I think I think they've seen their internal numbers.

01:26:09.000 We've heard a lot of talk from Mark Halpern, from other people, that their internal numbers aren't as good as the public ones.

01:26:14.000 And the public ones aren't that great right now.

01:26:17.000 You have Nate Silver going around.

01:26:18.000 They're citing Nate Silver.

01:26:19.000 Prominent Democrats are like stoking panic in their base.

01:26:23.000 They're saying, he says, it's really close.

01:26:25.000 we're down in the electoral college and some of this is Democrats sort of

01:26:30.000 respond well to panic they freak out they donate more money they are a

01:26:33.000 neurotic bunch of people in the best of times they were mass and so you know

01:26:39.000 they're going to be all neurotic about this no matter what but I I think they

01:26:45.000 are I do think they're requesting another debate because I think they

01:26:49.000 believe it will be useful to them And I think part of it is awareness that this debate is really early, way earlier than any of the debates were in 2016, for example, and I think 2020.

01:27:00.000 Uh, other than like North Carolina, I don't think any states are really voting for another two or three weeks.

01:27:05.000 No, that's right.

01:27:05.000 That's like three or four additional news cycles.

01:27:07.000 Huge.

01:27:07.000 This'll be over with, and that's why they wish they could get a debate right in the sweet spot of early voting, and we'll see if that happens.

01:27:14.000 There's another panel of undecided voters that I want to load up here.

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01:27:42.000 You gotta bring in more hats, Daisy. 1.00

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01:27:57.000 Okay, let's go. This is another focus group. I have no idea what they're gonna say.

01:28:00.000 So guys, we're all gonna watch this. You're telling me for the first time. Cut 103.

01:28:03.000 She just basically repeated everything that Biden has said in the past.

01:28:10.000 What were your thoughts?

01:28:14.000 Donald Trump made a strong closing statement by saying, why didn't they do all the things that she's proposing during the three and a half years that they've been in office?

01:28:26.000 And Biden did this entire moderate stance back in 2020.

01:28:31.000 And she's trying to do it again in 2024, but she didn't talk about her policy changes between 2020 and 2024.

01:28:39.000 Her whole centrist, moderate stance is just a facade.

01:28:44.000 Blake, I'm sorry, that's CBS News, Jack.

01:28:47.000 That's not what they wanted out of tonight, of undecided voters.

01:28:52.000 And by the way, that, um, you know, we, we haven't said it, but president Trump, when he was given that opportunity to, uh, summarize essentially his positions for the evening, he, he really did very well.

01:29:03.000 It was a fantastic closing statement to just say, she says she's going to do all of these wonderful things to do so.

01:29:07.000 I said it earlier.

01:29:08.000 That's my only feedback.

01:29:09.000 I'm sorry, I shouldn't have interrupted you, Jack.

01:29:15.000 I said he should have said it earlier.

01:29:16.000 I couldn't resist.

01:29:17.000 If he would have made that a theme throughout the night... He should have said it earlier, yes.

01:29:19.000 Yeah, I do agree with that.

01:29:21.000 And then it's just that... But there are people who are picking up on it.

01:29:26.000 People watched it to the end and it was definitely a rollercoaster.

01:29:28.000 There's no question about that.

01:29:29.000 But the fact that people are picking up on it and the undecided voter panels are hearing it, it shows that it did come through.

01:29:35.000 Look, if you're someone who's sitting out there and you're wondering why things are going so bad right now, you know that she's the current vice president.

01:29:41.000 They're trying to play this game like she isn't the current vice president.

01:29:44.000 And we know Trump's not in office.

01:29:46.000 So if she can do all these wonderful things, and he did kind of say to her, why don't you just go down to DC and close the border?

01:29:51.000 You can do it right now.

01:29:53.000 So he's giving her these examples.

01:29:54.000 And I think that stuff does actually have resonance with people who are looking at this, if they truly are looking at this with an open mind.

01:30:02.000 So, so Jack, I mean, I think it's important, you know, something that Trump hammered again and again and again tonight was the fact that they are sending criminals across our border and that she allowed it to happen.

01:30:16.000 And you and I have talked about this.

01:30:19.000 When Trump first did the shot across the bow in 2015 and 2016, and he went really hard on immigration, everybody called him a racist, but it turns out, guess what?

01:30:29.000 The American people, they were into it.

01:30:33.000 They loved it.

01:30:34.000 I have consistently believed that the most popular issue that the Democrats have worked overtime, over years, to make it so that you couldn't express these opinions I believe that the American people are so fed up with immigration that this messaging, yeah, maybe he could have delivered it better, but they know very clearly after tonight, if you want less, you got Trump.

01:31:06.000 I mean, it is really a binary choice on such a massively energizing issue as immigration.

01:31:13.000 And could Trump have delivered the points better?

01:31:16.000 Sure.

01:31:16.000 But the point got through.

01:31:18.000 You got one guy that's on your team.

01:31:19.000 You got one guy that's on their team.

01:31:21.000 And I think that was so, I think it's so powerful.

01:31:24.000 It is the underappreciated through line of Trump's entire run as a candidate Going back to 2015, we underestimate consistently how unpopular mass immigration is and how popular a secure border is.

01:31:38.000 And Trump is that guy.

01:31:39.000 Blake has made a great point, Andrew, that's very astute.

01:31:42.000 We are one news item away from all of that setting in.

01:31:46.000 For example, people might say, I don't know if Trump did well or not, but he kept talking about immigration.

01:31:50.000 We are one horrendous news item, right, Blake?

01:31:53.000 Away, God forbid, from all of a sudden that clicking even further.

01:31:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:58.000 One of Trump's biggest advantages is he benefits right now from chaos.

01:32:03.000 And 2016 was like that, too.

01:32:05.000 When the current regime is basically built on lies like, oh, the border's fine, the economy is fine, it's a house of cards that could come in at any moment.

01:32:14.000 Does anyone think we're going to have a shocker where the stock market explodes upward and we come in and they're like, oh, actually the economy grew 5%?

01:32:21.000 No.

01:32:22.000 They're praying we don't have the stock market tank 5,000 points in a week right before the election.

01:32:28.000 Do they think the border is going to be solved?

01:32:29.000 No.

01:32:30.000 They're terrified some illegal... they'll be like, oh yeah, this person was... the Biden administration paid to fly this person in from Haiti and then they paid them $10,000 so they could live in this house in like a middle-class neighborhood in Wisconsin and then he abducted this eight-year-old girl and he flayed her and then ate her body.

01:32:49.000 And that could come out!

01:32:51.000 Something like that could happen because that is the kind of people we let in!

01:32:54.000 And it's only gonna get worse.

01:32:55.000 It's only getting worse!

01:32:56.000 We see, this is what's crumbling through.

01:32:58.000 This Springfield, and it could be out there, I'd encourage everyone, if you're in a community where this is going on, talk about it.

01:33:05.000 Go to city council, send emails to us.

01:33:07.000 Because this Springfield stuff was going on for months, for years, and it's just finally, clips started to go viral and it caught everyone's attention.

01:33:16.000 This could be happening anywhere.

01:33:18.000 So if there are, if there's a string of burglaries in your town and they say, it's illegal immigrants who do this, If there are drug gangs in your community and it's illegal immigrants, let us know because we can publicize this, we can make this the dominant issue in the election. 0.53

01:33:34.000 Do you want your community to just be plundered and looted and criminalized and destroyed by this tidal wave of vicious and criminal people from the third world? 1.00

01:33:47.000 The... I think that's exactly... America is open for looting, is what we are seeing right now.

01:33:52.000 Open for looting.

01:33:54.000 By the way, I have... People are fed up.

01:33:56.000 By the way, we have people in the warehouse right now on... You see this video, trying to get more hats?

01:34:01.000 Look at all these hats I'm signing for you guys.

01:34:03.000 Look at that picture right there.

01:34:04.000 Can we go... Do that zoom out picture.

01:34:05.000 Look at that, Blake.

01:34:06.000 Look at that.

01:34:07.000 Look at this.

01:34:08.000 That's beautiful.

01:34:09.000 That's beautiful.

01:34:10.000 They're coming to a house near you.

01:34:11.000 Yes, Andrew.

01:34:13.000 You need to make sure that people understand that has the turning point The iconic turning point on the side, the logo.

01:34:21.000 That's right.

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01:35:01.000 You can ask him his favorite hobbies and he's like, my hobby is saving America!

01:35:05.000 That's right.

01:35:05.000 My answers are all the same, Blake.

01:35:06.000 Yes.

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01:35:10.000 You are the man, Charlie.

01:35:12.000 Keep up the good fight.

01:35:13.000 Thank you.

01:35:14.000 Yes, thank you very much.

01:35:16.000 Claire Fuselman says, I watched the debate with a roommate who is left-leaning.

01:35:21.000 She asked several questions about Trump that I could answer since I have been listening to your show.

01:35:27.000 That's what it's all about.

01:35:28.000 Just became a Charlie Kirk member.

01:35:29.000 Thank you.

01:35:30.000 Thank you, Claire.

01:35:32.000 And we have Katrice.

01:35:36.000 It says Katrice, but it's actually Ryan, apparently.

01:35:39.000 Wife and I just became annual Charlie Kirk exclusive members.

01:35:42.000 Both Phoenix natives.

01:35:43.000 We met you when you visited Desert Hills Church.

01:35:46.000 What can we do in Phoenix to help?

01:35:49.000 And Tyler had to drop off.

01:35:50.000 This is the other call to action tonight, guys, on top of getting your hats and all this.

01:35:54.000 But, uh, you need to go to commit 100.

01:35:55.000 We have to do the work here.

01:35:57.000 This thing's gonna come down to the wire of who wants it more.

01:36:00.000 And so at Turning Point Action, we are mobilizing the largest ever citizen force and grassroots army to chase ballots in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.

01:36:11.000 Parts of Michigan and parts of Nevada.

01:36:13.000 And you guys can do it at tpaction.com slash 100. tpaction.com slash 100.

01:36:18.000 Andrew, you talked to a reporter today about this.

01:36:21.000 Can you walk our audience through the tactical significance of chasing ballots, of getting into the grassroots?

01:36:29.000 Andrew, educate our audience on this.

01:36:31.000 Yeah, so, you know, thanks for that opportunity.

01:36:33.000 I'm happy to do it.

01:36:35.000 So, in the past, the Ronna McDaniel crowd, the old school consultants, they would go around and they would say, we knocked on 10 million doors.

01:36:45.000 And what they don't want you to know is that a lot of those doors were not the right doors.

01:36:49.000 And the interactions with said people at those doors We're not very pleasant.

01:36:54.000 And sometimes they were Democrats.

01:36:56.000 And sometimes you in the grassroots were spending money thinking you were helping save your country and you were actually getting Democrats out to the polls.

01:37:04.000 What we do at Turning Point Action is much different.

01:37:09.000 Our Chase the Vote initiative is about hiring hundreds of full-time employees located in very strategic And guess what?

01:37:19.000 We knock on their door and we say, do you have a plan to vote?

01:37:22.000 And they're like, I don't really check into politics.

01:37:25.000 just didn't come out last time or in 2016.

01:37:28.000 So they didn't come out in 2016 and or 2020.

01:37:31.000 And guess what?

01:37:32.000 We knock on their door and we say, do you have a plan to vote?

01:37:35.000 And they're like, I don't really check into politics. 1.00

01:37:37.000 I kind of think it's all, it's all, you know, stupid. 1.00

01:37:40.000 It's not worth it. 1.00

01:37:41.000 I'm, you know, I'm.

01:37:42.000 I'm not really engaged.

01:37:43.000 Well, how about you just take five minutes to fill out a piece of paper.

01:37:46.000 I'll help you get a plan to vote.

01:37:47.000 Do you want people to take away your guns?

01:37:50.000 Have you noticed the prices at the grocery store?

01:37:52.000 Do you like your new neighbors that don't speak English and don't know how to drive and they get into car accidents?

01:37:58.000 Well, maybe you should make a plan to vote.

01:37:59.000 And one by one by one, Basically, 10 interactions at a time a day over the course of the months that we have had and we're going to have the 60 days ahead of us.

01:38:12.000 We are giving those people a plan to vote.

01:38:15.000 We're making it easy for them.

01:38:16.000 We're driving them to polling places if that helps, to drop boxes if that helps.

01:38:21.000 These are people who are on the sidelines.

01:38:23.000 They did not vote last time.

01:38:25.000 So we don't care about the 10 million the 10 million doors here or whatever we care about about a 300 to 350,000 low prop likely conservative minded people in Arizona and we care about 350,000 people in Wisconsin same same idea and in CD7 in Michigan and CD3 in Nevada we also have staff deployed and that is our universe because we know that We fell 20,000 ballots short in Wisconsin.

01:38:54.000 We fell 11,000 short, 10,000 short in Arizona.

01:38:58.000 And we've got 350 in each state, 350,000 in each state, a universe that small, but that important

01:39:04.000 that can make all the difference, the direction of this country moving forward.

01:39:08.000 So look, I'm reading, thank you, Andrew, for that.

01:39:10.000 It's tpaction.com slash 100.

01:39:12.000 So, I'm reading CNN.com here, and if you are a Trump supporter, these are headlines that you would want.

01:39:18.000 Key takeaways from contentious debate.

01:39:20.000 That's the headline.

01:39:21.000 Next headline.

01:39:22.000 There were fierce arguments.

01:39:24.000 Trump indulged in conspiracies.

01:39:26.000 By the way, no one is moved by that.

01:39:28.000 Okay, let's be clear.

01:39:30.000 That is an unmoved headline.

01:39:31.000 Next.

01:39:32.000 And neither offered a plan to end major global conflicts.

01:39:36.000 Trump hammered Harris on her inconsistencies, J.D.

01:39:40.000 Vance says.

01:39:41.000 The next headline on CNN.com, Harris campaign calls for second debate.

01:39:47.000 CNN flash poll, majority of debate watchers say Harris outperformed Trump.

01:39:51.000 Okay, we anticipated that.

01:39:53.000 CNN experts offer context and analysis.

01:39:57.000 Guys, Jack, I'm reading these headlines here.

01:40:00.000 That's not the headlines that you want if you're the Harris campaign.

01:40:03.000 Contentious debate, both sides didn't know how to end conflicts.

01:40:09.000 That sounds like a draw.

01:40:11.000 Yeah, so let me give an example that, you know, people can say, oh, Trump got mad and Kamala came across poised or at least prepared, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

01:40:20.000 But you know what Kamala didn't do?

01:40:22.000 She didn't really land any punches and she didn't have any standout moments. 0.65

01:40:28.000 Go back and try to just off the top of your head, what was something that Kamala said tonight?

01:40:33.000 What was the big scripted, Oh, that's the line that the team crafted.

01:40:38.000 And campaigns usually work for a long time.

01:40:40.000 And I was looking for it.

01:40:41.000 I was looking for it the entire night.

01:40:43.000 So she's out in Pittsburgh, then she's actually coming and staying at a hotel she's in.

01:40:47.000 I'm not going to say it though.

01:40:49.000 And right now, and, You always look for these pre-scripted planned lines that are usually prepared well in advance and designed to strategically calculate a certain cross-section of the voting base that she needs. 0.82

01:41:04.000 And you just didn't hear it.

01:41:05.000 You just didn't hear it the entire night.

01:41:07.000 She had no standout moments.

01:41:08.000 She had no standout lines.

01:41:09.000 Then even CNN is kind of scrambling to say, okay, what do we do here with this?

01:41:15.000 Because there just weren't any.

01:41:17.000 Yeah, I mean, so they have Chris Wallace on CNN saying the debate performance was devastating.

01:41:21.000 Okay, Chris Wallace is not taken seriously as a... Chris Wallace, one of the most disappointing nepotism hires in media.

01:41:28.000 No, no, I mean, that doesn't move anybody.

01:41:30.000 But I'm looking at here just kind of the zeitgeist.

01:41:32.000 Foxnews.com, Trump spars with Harris and the moderators in heated first debate against VP.

01:41:37.000 She doesn't have a plan. 0.63

01:41:38.000 Okay.

01:41:39.000 I'm looking here at Yahoo.com here.

01:41:42.000 But what I'm getting at, Blake, do you see the theme here?

01:41:45.000 This is not decisive.

01:41:47.000 It's not over the top.

01:41:48.000 This will kind of wane out of the memory of the American people pretty quickly.

01:41:51.000 I think so.

01:41:52.000 I think so.

01:41:53.000 And then it's going to live with the clips of Run Spot Run and that they're eating dogs and you can't afford bacon.

01:41:58.000 Which, honestly, Trump had the better one-liners tonight.

01:42:00.000 And a few that they could, this is actually, I want to just, sorry, I just want to flag this from a person on YouTube, Colette Davis, who donated $25.

01:42:07.000 She points out, anytime Kamala mentions $25,000 for first-time homebuyers, he should bring up, in California, her state, Democrats want to give $150,000 to illegal immigrants.

01:42:19.000 To buy homes.

01:42:20.000 And yeah, okay, Gavin Newsom did a solid and vetoed it.

01:42:23.000 He wouldn't be vetoing it if it was any year other than one ending in 2024.

01:42:27.000 And you should bring that up.

01:42:30.000 I think that's a great point.

01:42:31.000 Front page of Yahoo.com.

01:42:32.000 Updates.

01:42:33.000 Fact checks following the first Trump-Harris debate.

01:42:36.000 Candidates clash at immigration, abortion, and more testy debate despite ABC's rules.

01:42:40.000 Mics weren't always muted.

01:42:42.000 Guys, this just seems like a draw and kind of a mess, the way that the media is framing it.

01:42:46.000 I always like to check my premise here.

01:42:48.000 By the way, can you look at my mountain here?

01:42:50.000 Can you zoom out?

01:42:51.000 I have MAGA Mountain.

01:42:53.000 Do you see that?

01:42:54.000 There were no hats here when we started.

01:42:56.000 This is Mount MAGA, and I run this mountain.

01:43:00.000 And if you want your hat, go to members.charliekirk.com.

01:43:04.000 Daisy, come on here. 1.00

01:43:05.000 There are so many hats that it knocked over my energy drink.

01:43:08.000 Daisy, say hello. 0.83

01:43:08.000 Daisy does a lot of great work. 0.83

01:43:09.000 She's wearing her MAGA hat.

01:43:10.000 There are so many hats.

01:43:11.000 It knocked over my energy drink.

01:43:13.000 I spilled some on my computer.

01:43:14.000 This computer might have been destroyed for the sake of MAGA.

01:43:16.000 That computer... You've had that thing since, what, like 2003?

01:43:19.000 Yeah, basically, yeah.

01:43:20.000 I should probably replace it at some point.

01:43:23.000 It's so funny, that thing like heats up as if you're trying to launch a rocket ship into orbit.

01:43:27.000 It's like a trillion degrees.

01:43:29.000 It's amazing.

01:43:32.000 Yes, Andrew?

01:43:33.000 I want to interject with something here.

01:43:35.000 I feel like just with the benefit of a few minutes of this debate being passed, I feel like I'm settling in to what I actually, and I've been writing down some notes here as we've been talking, And what I really feel like I saw, like in my gut, what I know that casual watchers of this debate were going to actually internalize, what they would actually take away.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, quippy one-liner, good moment, Trump maybe missed this, hit her on that, nailed the more important things, whatever.

01:44:06.000 What we really saw was A man, Donald Trump, who's really ticked off.

01:44:14.000 He's really ticked off at the injustices that have been perpetrated against him.

01:44:18.000 And he's really upset about what he's watching happen to America.

01:44:23.000 And he's really upset that he's getting mocked by somebody across the stage who's responsible for it.

01:44:30.000 Who's responsible for so much of it, at least.

01:44:33.000 And I genuinely feel like that's what I internalized.

01:44:35.000 And I think they're going to internalize the fact that they saw somebody that does all of the things, the polish, the one-liners, the, like, sort of looks, the acting, and how phony it all is. 1.00

01:44:47.000 And I genuinely believe that that is going to be somewhere deep down in the viewer's mind and in their gut, they're going to know that that's the truth.

01:44:56.000 I think Trump's pissed.

01:44:58.000 I think he's ticked off. 0.95

01:44:59.000 I think he's exhausted by just how, like, Superfluous and silly so much of the song and dances and how much of the posturing and the acting and the hypocrisy that he's seen so close and intimately.

01:45:14.000 I genuinely believe that that is getting through to the viewers.

01:45:20.000 I do.

01:45:21.000 They saw a man that's pissed off and I think so many of us, why that works is because so many of us feel it too.

01:45:27.000 Yeah, and I just... So Jack, again, we're very much in favor of Taylor's cats.

01:45:33.000 We hope that we deport Haitians so that Taylor can keep Meredith safe. 1.00

01:45:36.000 But why would they roll out the Taylor Swift endorsement here?

01:45:40.000 Yeah, so the Taylor Swift endorsement, which is something that I've been predicting for over nine months would be coming in the fall, that it's something that it seems strange to roll out on a night which was already so politically newsy to begin with.

01:45:58.000 Although it does strike me as interesting that there's a certain dichotomy of the Elon endorsement coming on the day of Trump's assassination attempt.

01:46:07.000 And the Taylor Swift endorsement coming on the day of the debate like this, because both happened in big media cycles.

01:46:14.000 And so there's two things I'm thinking about.

01:46:17.000 It could be number one, that Taylor just wanted to get it out there, but didn't want it to be a separate media cycle.

01:46:22.000 So you put it in, you say, this is the endorsement.

01:46:26.000 And then, you know, is she going to organize or not?

01:46:28.000 I think that's really the big question, because all right, she put it out there, but Because there's so much media going on right now, it's not going to get as big of a cycle as it would unless she goes to organize voters. 0.85

01:46:37.000 That's wrong.

01:46:38.000 Number two, is it possible?

01:46:41.000 And you know, I say this is less likely, but is it?

01:46:44.000 I'll ask the question.

01:46:45.000 Is it possible?

01:46:48.000 Well, not to say that you are in politics, but you've been around politics.

01:46:52.000 And you know that that's how it goes.

01:46:53.000 You would plan something for a good news cycle in order to cover up bad news or a poor debate performance.

01:46:59.000 You know, Charlie, you work in politics, you know, that's exactly what not to say that

01:47:02.000 you are in politics, but you even around politics, and you, you know, that that's how it goes.

01:47:07.000 You would, you would plan something for a good news cycle in order to cover up bad news

01:47:12.000 or a poor debate performance.

01:47:14.000 So basically, why pull the trigger if you thought you would want the debates are resoundingly

01:47:20.000 It smacks of, potentially, a campaign that feels like they need something.

01:47:25.000 Yeah, it's just... For example, I'm here at CBS.

01:47:29.000 I'm checking every major outlet here right now.

01:47:31.000 CBSnews.com, NBCnews.com.

01:47:34.000 You know what the CBS headline is?

01:47:38.000 Presidential Debate Highlights from the First Trump vs. Harris Showdown.

01:47:42.000 Kamala Harris's policy plans and platform.

01:47:45.000 Trump policy plans and platform.

01:47:47.000 Trump-Vance repeat baseless claim about Haitian migrants and cats.

01:47:52.000 That's their headline.

01:47:53.000 If we're talking about Haitians eating cats, we have won the 2024 election, everybody. 0.97

01:47:59.000 Right?

01:48:00.000 I totally agree.

01:48:01.000 Yes, I think that backfires on them.

01:48:04.000 I think that Trump getting dogs and cats mixed up, it's all good.

01:48:08.000 It's all good.

01:48:09.000 Like, talking about Haitians in America?

01:48:12.000 Good.

01:48:13.000 Andrew, do you agree with me?

01:48:16.000 No, I totally agree because I go back to an earlier point I made that the American people are sick of it.

01:48:22.000 They're sick of it.

01:48:23.000 They don't care that they're eating cats or not eating cats.

01:48:26.000 They know that it's a problem.

01:48:27.000 And if you look at a lot of the film that we've gotten on the ground, both Turning Point USA Frontlines and other independent journalists, the city council meetings, those citizens are fed up.

01:48:38.000 They've had enough.

01:48:40.000 Whether it's insurance rates, whether it's geese getting eaten at the pond, which nobody's really debating.

01:48:44.000 That's definitely happening.

01:48:45.000 Ducks and geese are definitely happening.

01:48:48.000 I think all of this underscores the fact that we have a mass immigration problem. 0.94

01:48:53.000 We have too many, too fast, too unvetted.

01:48:56.000 And people know in their guts, they're sick of it.

01:48:58.000 They're sick of walking down the street next to people they don't recognize and they don't know and they don't speak the language of.

01:49:03.000 Sorry, if you think that's racist, I guess, like, whatever, keep running with that.

01:49:08.000 I think the American people are sick of that line.

01:49:10.000 I think they know in their gut and they're fed up.

01:49:14.000 And I think, again, we underestimate how unpopular the Democrats' virtue signaling stance is.

01:49:20.000 And I think it's a winner.

01:49:23.000 If we're talking about that, to your point, Charlie, we are winning.

01:49:26.000 Absolutely.

01:49:30.000 There is going to be, I think we're going to be vindicated on this story 100%.

01:49:34.000 The media totally jumped the gun saying it was debunked and false and all this stuff. 0.95

01:49:38.000 These Haitians are into cat eating. 1.00

01:49:40.000 We all know it. 0.97

01:49:42.000 So, you know, we're going to find out more.

01:49:47.000 Okay, uh, let's go members.charliekirk.com.

01:49:49.000 I have a whole—I have Mt.

01:49:50.000 Maga here.

01:49:50.000 I want to thank Linda.

01:49:52.000 I want to thank Scott.

01:49:53.000 I want to thank Ronnie.

01:49:54.000 Laverna—that's a beautiful name—Linda, Mary, Thomas, and Christian.

01:50:00.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

01:50:02.000 That is members.charliekirk.com.

01:50:06.000 And by the way, yes, we have reporters on the ground.

01:50:08.000 Did we get that video, by the way?

01:50:09.000 Did we get the video that I sent earlier to load?

01:50:12.000 A couple.

01:50:13.000 The CNN one and also the one from Springfield, Ohio I sent, which are both great.

01:50:18.000 Another CNN focus group that I want to watch from Erie, Pennsylvania.

01:50:23.000 And look, I'm looking through these headlines.

01:50:26.000 You would think that they'd be far more in favor.

01:50:28.000 Okay, yeah, this is from Paternity.USA Frontlines talking about... So do you know that the number one thing that our Frontlines people are hearing in Springfield, Ohio right now?

01:50:37.000 What?

01:50:38.000 Every single resident they're talking to is like, yeah, they're eating the cats, but that's not the worst thing.

01:50:42.000 They're doing much worse things in the town.

01:50:43.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:50:44.000 And you might say, what?

01:50:45.000 Haitians don't know how to drive, and they don't learn on American standards, and that's how that kid died, that 11-year-old. 1.00

01:50:51.000 Yeah, like I just drove into traffic basically.

01:50:53.000 Oh yeah, you're constantly in traffic.

01:50:54.000 And it was like, they're like, he had a license not recognized in America.

01:50:57.000 Yeah, I imagine.

01:50:59.000 This is Cut 102, where your pets are not safe in Springfield, Ohio.

01:51:03.000 I love these folks.

01:51:04.000 This is the background, backbone of the country.

01:51:06.000 Play Cut 102.

01:51:06.000 You don't want to get eaten up, do you?

01:51:09.000 You're gonna be next, boy!

01:51:11.000 I ain't eating nothing off of a barbecue pit around here.

01:51:14.000 Ducks.

01:51:15.000 Ducks are disappearing.

01:51:16.000 So the migrants are eating geese, you think? 1.00

01:51:18.000 Have you heard of pets being abducted?

01:51:21.000 Yep.

01:51:21.000 Cats are a delicacy in Haiti.

01:51:24.000 It's not that they're poor and eating them because they don't have other food.

01:51:28.000 It is a delicacy like someone would eat escargot.

01:51:32.000 Then I heard that stuff on Facebook and I thought, I better watch my dogs.

01:51:36.000 Well, that wasn't verified.

01:51:38.000 Springfield, Ohio right now is a tender box.

01:51:42.000 They're killing cats. 0.98

01:51:43.000 They're eating geese.

01:51:45.000 They're crashing cars.

01:51:47.000 One of these is going to light, and it's going to be bad.

01:51:50.000 Part of that is because in the state of Ohio, you cannot use lethal force to protect property, and pets are considered property.

01:51:59.000 Are you carrying a firearm now to keep yourself safe?

01:52:02.000 How has that changed?

01:52:03.000 Yes, I did.

01:52:04.000 I got a couple guns, and I'm not afraid to use them.

01:52:08.000 I was raised at the hills.

01:52:10.000 Our town is a bomb, especially with the influx of immigrants or whatever you want to say, people. 1.00

01:52:19.000 It's a time bomb ready to go off.

01:52:23.000 I didn't know that we got the Super Mario endorsement.

01:52:25.000 First of all, how great is Turning Point?

01:52:27.000 That was amazing.

01:52:28.000 They landed at 7 a.m.

01:52:29.000 and they had that by 1 p.m.

01:52:31.000 That's incredible.

01:52:32.000 I mean, Andrew, that is premier journalism right there.

01:52:35.000 And by the way, that's just the beginning.

01:52:37.000 We're trying to get private security footage.

01:52:39.000 There's residents that say they have ring cameras of Haitians just coming in and scooping up cats.

01:52:47.000 But it's just Monday and stuff.

01:52:48.000 I bet like every package it's just open season.

01:52:51.000 You know, can't get stuff delivered. 0.97

01:52:52.000 And people just probably wander out of stores and stuff with all sorts of crap. 0.80

01:52:59.000 So this is CNN. 0.97

01:53:01.000 I want to play CNN here, by the way.

01:53:02.000 Another focus group.

01:53:03.000 Erie, Pennsylvania, which is traditionally a Democrat stronghold right on Lake Erie.

01:53:07.000 Playcut 104.

01:53:09.000 Heard that we were abandoning or we're withdrawing from Afghanistan and the way it was happening.

01:53:15.000 I had my Kennedy moment.

01:53:16.000 It was very similar to when we decided to invade Iraq back under President Bush.

01:53:22.000 And when I saw that we were leaving that amount of high-tech equipment in the hands of our enemy, And later that day, or later that week, I saw on the news were them celebrating with our guns in their hands.

01:53:34.000 I realized what a travesty that was.

01:53:36.000 A, in the loss of money that we abandoned when we left, plus the very bullets that we left there that they were shooting at us as we flew away in the planes.

01:53:48.000 I mean, I just want to repeat.

01:53:49.000 This environment is so good for Trump.

01:53:51.000 Voters are basically begging.

01:53:53.000 Can you please give me a reason to vote for you?

01:53:56.000 Things are too expensive.

01:53:57.000 Our border is open.

01:53:57.000 Afghanistan was a disgrace.

01:53:59.000 We're getting humiliated. 1.00

01:54:00.000 The country's a mess.

01:54:02.000 This is a CNN focus group.

01:54:03.000 And you're going to go with Kamala because she can rehearse a few lines and kind of warble her voice like this to sound so emotional.

01:54:13.000 I'm so upset about Trump.

01:54:18.000 That's a hoax, man.

01:54:19.000 Yeah, it does.

01:54:20.000 It shouldn't, but it does.

01:54:21.000 It does.

01:54:24.000 You read an old Abraham Lincoln speech.

01:54:26.000 Go read the Cooper Union speech, and then come and read Kamala's address.

01:54:30.000 It's not 1860.

01:54:31.000 Cooper Union's the best speech, by the way.

01:54:32.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:54:34.000 You don't have the demographic of 1860 either, by the way.

01:54:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:38.000 We go from that to Kamala, just like, the Ukraine is a smaller country than Russia.

01:54:47.000 Okay, members.charliekirk.com.

01:54:49.000 So, I want to play other pieces of tape here.

01:54:50.000 Jack, you wanted to chime in, though.

01:54:52.000 Yeah, I did, because I've got a really good friend, just say, a guy I served in the military with, who is from Ohio, was in my wedding, kind of type guy, and he texted me during the debate.

01:55:05.000 He said, well, hold on a second.

01:55:07.000 People in Springfield that I've talked to say that when they go to call the police, They'll say, Oh, my, my, my cat and dog is missing.

01:55:15.000 And we're pretty sure what happened.

01:55:16.000 They say, well, you need to give us a name or you need to tell us what happened or else we're just going to say your cat ran away.

01:55:21.000 And if your cat or dog ran away or whatever it is, then that's not a crime.

01:55:25.000 So you don't have evidence.

01:55:26.000 So there's no report.

01:55:27.000 And same time where they'll say, someone's chasing me down the street,

01:55:30.000 someone's chasing me down the street.

01:55:31.000 Okay, do you have a name?

01:55:32.000 Oh, no, we don't have a name.

01:55:34.000 So guess what?

01:55:35.000 There's no report.

01:55:36.000 And he's been telling me this for months in Springfield that the police are under pressure to not put reports

01:55:44.000 of crime when Haitians are in power. 1.00

01:55:46.000 They are lining their pockets with federal government taxpayer cash, and it's the Great Replacement.

01:55:51.000 of this migrant invasion. Yep, you know, they are lining their pockets with federal government 0.98

01:55:57.000 taxpayer cash and it's the great replacement. And there's no replacement. And we flew them here.

01:56:02.000 Just so we're clear. Yes, Andrew? And we flew them here on taxpayer dollars, which is infuriating.

01:56:07.000 But, you know, something, Charlie, that came up in the debate tonight was gun control.

01:56:11.000 Trump constantly hammered Kamala on the fact that she wants to take your guns away. 1.00

01:56:15.000 And then she said, well, listen, me and Tim Walz are both gun owners, so don't tell me that I want to take away your guns.

01:56:21.000 Well, the problem with that is, Charlie, you look at those Springfield, Ohio clips, and how many of those residents were like, yeah, I'm packing now because I feel unsafe.

01:56:29.000 In my community, because I'm walking by strangers who don't speak my language that are, you know, throwing mattresses in my yard and littering and crashing into things and eating, you know, wildlife and slash pets. 0.94

01:56:42.000 A lot of them are now, you know, armed to protect themselves.

01:56:46.000 And meanwhile, Kamala Harris is lying about her gun stance. 1.00

01:56:49.000 And we have the tapes, like, you know, from 2019 of Kamala Harris endorsing gun confiscation.

01:56:57.000 Now they call it Gun buybacks.

01:57:01.000 But she calls it mandatory gun buybacks.

01:57:04.000 And so I think we should play this tape, Charlie, when you want to call for it, go for it.

01:57:08.000 But 105, when you add the word mandatory, you're saying, you know, we're not going to give you an option.

01:57:16.000 You have no choice in this.

01:57:17.000 It is a confiscation.

01:57:19.000 Let's play cut.

01:57:20.000 I have it right here, actually.

01:57:22.000 Cut 105. 105.

01:57:24.000 Um, I support buybacks and I think that, look, we have 5 million assault weapons on the streets of America.

01:57:31.000 And we have 5 million assault weapons on the streets of America.

01:57:36.000 And assault weapons have been designed It's designed to kill a lot of human beings quickly.

01:57:44.000 They are weapons of war, and there is no place for them on the streets of a civil society.

01:57:51.000 It's something I'm so passionate about and so looking forward to being president to address.

01:57:56.000 We've got to deal with this.

01:57:57.000 How mandatory is your gun buyback program?

01:58:00.000 It's mandatory.

01:58:01.000 Second Amendment?

01:58:03.000 Second Amendment?

01:58:04.000 Listen, we're going to have to do it the right way.

01:58:06.000 There's no question about that.

01:58:09.000 We don't have any.

01:58:10.000 We have to get these guns off the street.

01:58:13.000 But I also, you know, I have faith in the American people to know that, you know, that we want to comply with our laws and that I know that to be true.

01:58:25.000 That's a gun confiscation program that she is sponsoring, just so we are clear. 0.78

01:58:30.000 That is gun confiscation.

01:58:31.000 Pure and simple.

01:58:32.000 Charlie.

01:58:34.000 Charlie, I have a question.

01:58:35.000 How do you define assault weapons?

01:58:37.000 An assault weapon is not a real thing.

01:58:40.000 An assault weapon is like a bat, a knife.

01:58:42.000 Assault rifle is not even a technical term.

01:58:45.000 So are you suggesting that maybe it's this big loophole where they could just Oh, interesting.

01:58:50.000 Interesting what she did there. 0.94

01:58:53.000 weapons into whatever they want to confiscate that given day?

01:58:56.000 Is that what you're trying to suggest?

01:58:57.000 There is no technical definition.

01:58:58.000 So a pistol could be an assault weapon, literally.

01:59:01.000 Oh, oh, interesting.

01:59:02.000 Interesting what she did there. 0.94

01:59:04.000 So maybe Kamala Harris owns an assault weapon and she's gonna realize that if elected 1.00

01:59:09.000 and force you to mandatory buybacks.

01:59:13.000 That's right. 0.99

01:59:14.000 This is what these people, this is why I'm saying, I don't think anybody's falling for this crap. 0.96

01:59:19.000 I think she's transparent and phony, and she does all the things that her consultants and handlers told her to say, and I really don't think this is landing. 0.97

01:59:28.000 The more I sit with this, the more I'm just convinced.

01:59:31.000 I agree.

01:59:31.000 I mean, let's be fair.

01:59:34.000 Kamala Harris received her very detailed, precise coaching on pressure points for Trump, and she delivered those lines, right?

01:59:43.000 Trump played into that probably more than we would have liked, but then he was able to navigate and pivot.

01:59:48.000 But this was not the win that they thought it was going to be at all.

01:59:51.000 And this is going to probably be old news within a week.

01:59:55.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

01:59:56.000 Final thoughts, guys, as we go around the horn, as I sign some more for Susan and I want to see for Heather.

02:00:02.000 Let's see here.

02:00:03.000 And also for Ryan.

02:00:08.000 And then for William, final thoughts, Blake?

02:00:12.000 You know, like I said, people are... it'll feel really intense, but we predicted this will basically be probably a draw in the end.

02:00:21.000 It's still, in most states, it's about three weeks, a month even, before they even get to early voting.

02:00:27.000 We're a century in this election.

02:00:29.000 We are a month out from Arizona.

02:00:30.000 A month ago, we hadn't even had the DNC yet.

02:00:34.000 A month ago, we were, it's like, brat summer, all that stuff.

02:00:37.000 Two months ago, Trump was, three months ago, Trump was getting shot.

02:00:40.000 Like everything moves so quickly.

02:00:42.000 Two months ago, actually.

02:00:43.000 It's like two months ago, Trump was shot.

02:00:43.000 Yeah.

02:00:45.000 That's feels like a century ago.

02:00:47.000 And two months from now is election day.

02:00:48.000 So we'll have another century to go in this race. 0.97

02:00:52.000 People shouldn't.

02:00:53.000 Be demoralized because the press is trying to do it.

02:00:56.000 Your only takeaway from this should be ABC News is really evil and we're going to say it as long as we're not simulcasting their debate and not allowed to say it. 0.69

02:01:06.000 They're bad dudes. 0.99

02:01:07.000 They hate you. 0.97

02:01:07.000 They want to rig the selection. 0.97

02:01:08.000 Don't let them.

02:01:09.000 Stay energized.

02:01:10.000 Get out.

02:01:11.000 Get the pieces of paper into the box.

02:01:13.000 And vote early.

02:01:15.000 Andrew and then Jack, final thoughts.

02:01:16.000 Andrew.

02:01:17.000 OK, surprise.

02:01:18.000 We tweeted about this too, Charlie, but a surprise trending number two.

02:01:23.000 So number one is Trump on X right now.

02:01:25.000 Number two, Abdul.

02:01:29.000 And I remember we were all resonating with that because he was like, and I told him, Abdul, you're gonna have problems because she tried to make it see. 0.82

02:01:36.000 I mean, what a heck of a spin job from Kamala Harris to try and act like something that they did in Afghanistan, which everybody knows is a historic humiliation that they just got crucified in the congressional report.

02:01:54.000 Biden's poll numbers never recovered from Jack, final thoughts?

02:01:57.000 it like it was Trump's fault. And so Trump reacts and goes, Abdul, I told him Abdul,

02:02:02.000 you know, it just hit. It just was a really good moment.

02:02:06.000 Trending number two, number two on X, people love it. And all the comments are positive. So that's

02:02:12.000 kind of a random aside, but an interesting observation, nonetheless. Jack, final

02:02:16.000 thoughts.

02:02:17.000 Look, folks, this one night, this one day of the entire campaign and

02:02:22.000 And we know that for the next seven weeks, the only thing that matters is how much you fight.

02:02:29.000 Are you going to commit to action now?

02:02:31.000 Or are you going to be sitting there on November 5th saying, oh, well, you know, I could have done more, but I guess it didn't.

02:02:38.000 No, no.

02:02:39.000 Go all in now.

02:02:41.000 Leave everything else out there in the field.

02:02:43.000 I was saying that yesterday.

02:02:44.000 I was saying that the day before.

02:02:45.000 I'll be saying it today, I'll be saying it tomorrow.

02:02:48.000 Leave everything on the field and you will know that no matter what happens on November 5th,

02:02:54.000 that you will have done things right.

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02:03:11.000 God bless, keep the faith, see you guys tomorrow.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 11, 2024

The Showdown: Trump vs Kamala Presidential Debate Special

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