The Charlie Kirk Show - The Signal Storm Grows Larger

00:00:00.000 Hey everyone, the Signal story continues.

00:00:02.000 We read the actual new Signal chat and we float out the idea, was Signal compromised by the CIA?

00:00:08.000 It's worthy of some examination.

00:00:11.000 We also have Speaker Newt Gingrich with us.

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00:01:31.000 The signal situation continues.

00:01:35.000 For those of you that have not been closely paying attention to the news, over the weekend there was a military strike against the Houthis in Yemen.

00:01:42.000 It is part of the ongoing Yemeni civil war, a Saudi proxy war.

00:01:49.000 President Donald Trump authorized a military strike.

00:01:52.000 And now we have learned more and more about the background.

00:01:57.000 This is an ongoing story and it gets more and more suspicious and urgent the deeper we dive into it.

00:02:05.000 We have new signal text messages from The Atlantic.

00:02:08.000 And of course, the big story is how did the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic magazine, the anti-Trump, hoax-peddling Atlantic magazine, how did he end up in a very private discussion with the Secretary of Defense, with the Director of National Intelligence?

00:02:28.000 How did that happen?

00:02:30.000 Well, first, I want to read all the new text messages that we have.

00:02:34.000 I want to read all of them piece by piece, and you can be the judge of whether or not this is war plans, attack plans.

00:02:42.000 So this is from Pete Hegseth.

00:02:44.000 These are some new signal messages.

00:02:45.000 Team update.

00:02:46.000 Time now.

00:02:48.000 1144 Eastern.

00:02:49.000 Weather is favorable.

00:02:51.000 Just confirmed with CENTCOM.

00:02:53.000 We are a go for mission launch.

00:02:56.000 1215 Eastern.

00:02:57.000 F-18's launch.

00:02:58.000 First strike package.

00:03:00.000 1345 trigger-based.

00:03:02.000 F-18 first strike window starts.

00:03:04.000 Target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.

00:03:08.000 Also, strike drones launch.

00:03:10.000 Now let me just pause.

00:03:11.000 I'm going to say the obvious, that Jeffrey Goldberg being involved in this group chat, seeing this, had a little bit of a heads up that a military strike was going to happen.

00:03:23.000 Thankfully, this could have been a lot worse.

00:03:27.000 That it could have been somebody that would have live tweeted, And potentially thwarted a military operation.

00:03:35.000 Thankfully, that did not happen.

00:03:37.000 14-10, more F-18s launch.

00:03:40.000 Second strike package.

00:03:41.000 14-15, strike drones on target.

00:03:44.000 This is when the first bombs will definitely drop, pending earlier trigger-based targets.

00:03:49.000 15-36, F-18 second strike starts.

00:03:52.000 Also, first, and that message cuts off.

00:03:56.000 Michael Waltz writes in the group chat.

00:03:59.000 He continues.

00:04:01.000 You should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the President's guidance this morning in your high side inboxes.

00:04:08.000 State and DOD, we developed suggested notification lists for regional allies and partners.

00:04:15.000 Joint staff is sending this AM a more specific sequence of events in the coming days, and we will work with DOD to ensure Chief of Staff, the Office of the Vice President, and POTUS are briefed.

00:04:26.000 J.D. Vance responds here.

00:04:29.000 Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan, but I think we are making a mistake.

00:04:35.000 3% of U.S. trade runs through the Suez.

00:04:37.000 40% of the European trade does.

00:04:40.000 This is a real risk that the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary.

00:04:44.000 The strongest reason to do this, as POTUS said, is to send a message.

00:04:48.000 But I'm not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with the message on Europe right now.

00:04:53.000 There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices.

00:04:57.000 I'm willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself.

00:05:01.000 But there's a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.

00:05:09.000 Pete Hegseth responds, but we can easily pause, and if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC, operational security.

00:05:18.000 I welcome other thoughts.

00:05:19.000 Michael Waltz responds to J.D. Vance and says, the trade figures we have...

00:05:25.000 are 15% of global and 30% of container.

00:05:28.000 It's difficult to break down to the United States specifically because much of the container either going through the Red Sea still or around the Cape of Good Hope are components going to Europe that turns into manufactured goods for transatlantic trade to the United States.

00:05:42.000 Whether we pull the plug or not today, European navies do not have the capacity capability to defend against the types of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles and drones the Houthis are now using. 0.77

00:05:54.000 So whether it's now or several weeks from now, it'll have to be the United States that reopens these shipping lanes.

00:06:00.000 Per the president's request, we are working with DOD and state to determine how to compile the costs associated and levy them on the Europeans.

00:06:07.000 Michael Waltz then added Stephen Miller to the chat.

00:06:11.000 Very important.

00:06:11.000 We only have evidence of Michael Waltz adding people to the chat.

00:06:15.000 As we stated in the first PC, we have a fundamental decision of allowing the sea lanes to remain closed.

00:06:22.000 Or to reopen them now or later.

00:06:25.000 We are the only ones with capability, unfortunately.

00:06:28.000 From a messaging standpoint, we absolutely add to the horribles on why the Europeans must invest in their own defense.

00:06:35.000 The last of the chat that we have from The Atlantic continues from Joe Kent.

00:06:40.000 There's nothing time-sensitive driving this timeline.

00:06:43.000 We'll have the exact same options in a month.

00:06:50.000 But that's a minor factor.

00:06:54.000 I will send you the unclassified data we pulled on BAM shipping.

00:06:59.000 John Ratcliffe then chimes in, Pete Hegseth says, Vice President J.D., I understand your concerns and fully support you raising, with POTUS, important considerations, most of which are tough to know, how they play out.

00:07:24.000 Economy, Ukraine, peace, Gaza, etc.

00:07:26.000 I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what.

00:07:29.000 No matter who knows, nobody knows who the Houthis are, which is why we would need to stay focused on Biden failed and Iran funded.

00:07:38.000 Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus.

00:07:42.000 Two immediate risks on waiting.

00:07:44.000 One, this leaks and we look indecisive.

00:07:47.000 Two, Israel takes action first or Gaza ceasefire falls apart.

00:07:51.000 Then we don't get to start this on our own terms.

00:07:53.000 We can manage both.

00:07:54.000 We are prepared to execute.

00:07:56.000 And if I had a final go or no go vote, I believe we should.

00:08:00.000 This is not about the Houthis.

00:08:01.000 I see it as two things.

00:08:02.000 Restoring freedom of navigation, a core national interest, and reestablishing deterrence, which Biden cratered.

00:08:09.000 Okay, that is the latest messages out of the Atlantic.

00:08:12.000 The Atlantic never should have had eyes on this.

00:08:16.000 And we are still trying to figure out exactly how on earth this occurred.

00:08:20.000 And I want to reiterate what I said yesterday on the program.

00:08:23.000 Behind the curtain, we see a robust open debate.

00:08:25.000 We see that J.D. Vance is actually America First behind closed doors as he is in public.

00:08:32.000 That is refreshing.

00:08:33.000 That is authentic.

00:08:35.000 That is a good thing to see.

00:08:36.000 But it does leave us with...

00:08:39.000 A more fundamental question.

00:08:40.000 How did this happen?

00:08:43.000 Because now this is the number one news story in the country.

00:08:46.000 The Democrats are pouncing.

00:08:48.000 They're doing everything they possibly can.

00:08:49.000 And it could have been a heck of a lot worse.

00:08:52.000 This could have been really, really bad.

00:08:56.000 How did Jeffrey Goldberg get added to a private government signal chat?

00:09:02.000 Well, here is what we know.

00:09:03.000 We know that Mike Waltz was the admin of the group chat.

00:09:08.000 Now, for example, I text a lot of people on Signal.

00:09:12.000 I use Signal a lot.

00:09:14.000 The thing about Signal is that when you text somebody, so for example, let's just say my wife.

00:09:21.000 If I were to put E into my Signal group, or Signal new message, she is the first contact.

00:09:30.000 Why? Because I message her a lot on Signal.

00:09:33.000 For example, if I want to message another one of my friends.

00:09:38.000 That I message on Signal.

00:09:39.000 Let's say Mike Davis, who I message a lot on Signal.

00:09:42.000 Mike Davis comes up as the first contact.

00:09:45.000 Meaning, when you type in a letter, whether it be J for Jeffrey Goldberg, you had to have had established contact with that person in order for that contact to come up first.

00:09:58.000 In order for this to have been a mistake that Mike Waltz made, he would have to have...

00:10:05.000 A lot of contact with Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:10:07.000 Enough so much that it populated as the first contact to be added on Signal.

00:10:12.000 And Mike Waltz is the admin of this chat.

00:10:16.000 We're going to play a piece of tape, though, because either Mike Waltz is completely lying or Signal is compromised.

00:10:25.000 Those are the only two options.

00:10:28.000 Either Mike Waltz, he denies knowing him, says I never talked to him, or Signal is compromised by the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:10:35.000 And of all people, they gave the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic access.

00:10:39.000 Those are the only two options available.

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00:11:53.000 So yesterday, Mike Waltz then went on Laura Ingram.

00:11:57.000 And he is flat out denying knowing Jeffrey Goldberg, adding Jeffrey Goldberg, saying a staffer didn't add it.

00:12:04.000 So if Mike Waltz is to be believed, which is obviously conceivable, then signal has been compromised.

00:12:15.000 Again, I think that's an unlikely scenario, but it's possible.

00:12:19.000 I mean, it was loaded on government devices.

00:12:22.000 There has been chatter for years in the intel community.

00:12:25.000 There's been long rumored that Signal has to have intelligent links to the CIA and so on.

00:12:31.000 Every tech has a backdoor.

00:12:33.000 Again, we are in a binary.

00:12:35.000 Either Signal has been compromised by the CIA, which is totally possible, or Mike Waltz's line.

00:12:44.000 These are tough clips to watch.

00:12:46.000 These are flat-out denials.

00:12:47.000 This makes it a bigger story.

00:12:49.000 Now, it is possible.

00:12:50.000 I give this a low probability.

00:12:53.000 It is possible that we could be looking at a Russiagate 2.0.

00:12:57.000 It's very possible.

00:13:00.000 I still give that a low probability, but we could be seeing a serious intel scandal here.

00:13:07.000 And you think about it.

00:13:08.000 Trump has had a good couple months.

00:13:10.000 They're trying to slow down the administration.

00:13:13.000 What is a perfect way to find yourself to be able to view war plans?

00:13:18.000 Well, a group chat.

00:13:19.000 You don't recognize every number.

00:13:21.000 How did you get added?

00:13:23.000 But there's still a lot that doesn't make sense.

00:13:26.000 Why would you then add the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic?

00:13:30.000 On the other side, he is kind of an intel guy.

00:13:32.000 He's a super neocon.

00:13:35.000 I'm still going with the more plausible explanation.

00:13:39.000 What is that, Occam's razor, where the more boring explanation is almost always correct?

00:13:45.000 That's Occam's razor.

00:13:46.000 I tend to yield towards that.

00:13:49.000 Which is that somebody added him that did not mean to add him.

00:13:53.000 And the admin of the chat was Mike Waltz.

00:13:57.000 Let's go through these pieces of tape.

00:13:58.000 This is 228.

00:13:59.000 Mike Waltz saying, never met Goldberg.

00:14:01.000 Couldn't pick him out of a police lineup.

00:14:03.000 That's quite a statement.

00:14:05.000 Play cut 228.

00:14:06.000 So you've never met Goldberg.

00:14:08.000 He's out there saying you guys have met in the past.

00:14:10.000 But you've never met him.

00:14:11.000 No idea.

00:14:12.000 Wouldn't know him if I bumped into him if I saw him in a police lineup.

00:14:15.000 Do now.

00:14:16.000 Knew him by reputation about lying about the president over and over again.

00:14:21.000 What I can tell you for certain, certainly wasn't reaching out or talking to him at all.

00:14:27.000 Why would I?

00:14:28.000 So this doesn't need to be done publicly, but this is very simple.

00:14:31.000 The president or anybody in the president's team should say, OK, Mike, give me your phone.

00:14:37.000 Right now, give me your device.

00:14:39.000 You could solve this whole thing in like 20 seconds.

00:14:41.000 Give me your device.

00:14:42.000 Go to Signal and see if Jeffrey Goldberg is a contact.

00:14:45.000 It's so simple.

00:14:46.000 If Jeffrey Goldberg is not a contact, Mike Waltz could have deleted it, but then all of a sudden you have a real issue.

00:14:54.000 All of a sudden you have a deeper intel operation that's going on here.

00:14:59.000 And understand, you could then see, you could look at his call log, you could see has he called him.

00:15:09.000 If Mike Waltz doesn't have any contact with Jeffrey Goldberg in his phone, if you assume control of it, Now you have potentially the intel agencies that Ratcliffe is supposed to be overseeing right now creating a backdoor into private government communications and then giving the Atlantic that information.

00:15:29.000 I still give that a very low probability.

00:15:32.000 This is 229.

00:15:34.000 Mike Waltz saying he spoke to Elon and said text experts are going to figure this out.

00:15:38.000 229. We're going to get to the bottom of it.

00:15:41.000 I just talked to Elon on the way here.

00:15:43.000 We've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened.

00:15:46.000 But I can tell you, I can tell you for 100%, I don't know this guy.

00:15:52.000 I know him by his horrible reputation, and he really is the bottom scum of journalists.

00:15:57.000 And I know him in the sense that he hates the president, but I don't text him.

00:16:01.000 He wasn't on my phone.

00:16:03.000 That's a flat-out denial.

00:16:05.000 Again, we are living in one of two scenarios.

00:16:07.000 Mike Waltz is lying?

00:16:10.000 Or the Intel community got a backdoor into Signal?

00:16:15.000 This is 230.

00:16:16.000 Mike Waltz says he put the group chat together and then suggests that they are looking to see if Jeffrey Goldberg somehow hacked into his phone and replaced the contact label JG with his own number.

00:16:28.000 Jeffrey Goldberg would not have done this.

00:16:30.000 This would be an Intel operation.

00:16:32.000 Play cut 230.

00:16:33.000 I built the group.

00:16:35.000 My job is to make sure everything's coordinated.

00:16:37.000 But how did the number...

00:16:38.000 I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but how did the number...

00:16:40.000 Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name and then you have somebody else's number there?

00:16:45.000 Oh, I never make those mistakes.

00:16:47.000 Right? You've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact.

00:16:51.000 So, of course, I didn't see this loser in the group.

00:16:54.000 It looked like someone else.

00:16:55.000 Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out.

00:17:00.000 I'll be honest.

00:17:01.000 This is a weird thing to lie about.

00:17:06.000 I'm pausing because why wouldn't you just say, look, I've been in Washington for 10 years and of course I talk to reporters.

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00:18:20.000 you Joining us now is Speaker Newt Gingrich.

00:18:24.000 Mr. Speaker, thank you for taking the time.

00:18:26.000 Mr. Speaker, how are you processing and thinking about this signal story and the strange and bizarre development that the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic found himself in a private military group chat?

00:18:38.000 Mr. Speaker.

00:18:40.000 Well, I mean...

00:18:40.000 I think there are two different parts to that.

00:18:42.000 One is, you said it just right, the strange and bizarre fact that of all the people who might have ended up in there, one of the most anti-Trump journalists from an anti-Trump magazine happened to be the guy there.

00:18:56.000 I think that's so weird, you wouldn't have put it into a novel.

00:19:00.000 The other fact is, they probably shouldn't have those kind of discussions on Signal.

00:19:07.000 When I was speaker, we routinely used the most powerful security systems.

00:19:15.000 We had somebody who would come to me, wherever I was, carrying a secure phone so I could talk to the president on a line that the Chinese and the Russians couldn't possibly hack. 0.84

00:19:27.000 So at one level, I would say there's an underlying lesson here that's important, and that is that they need to tighten up their own security provisions.

00:19:36.000 Just in general, not because of the Atlantic Monthly, but because of the Chinese and the Russians and the North Koreans, all of whom are very good at hacking into things. 1.00

00:19:46.000 The other is, my advice to them is get on, just get it over with.

00:19:50.000 This is not an issue that helps Donald Trump at all to sit around and wallow in it.

00:19:55.000 A mistake was made.

00:19:57.000 We don't fully know why the mistake was made.

00:19:59.000 The best thing they can say is, we're looking into it, and when we understand it, we'll report to you.

00:20:05.000 But until then, we have nothing more to say.

00:20:08.000 And just move on.

00:20:09.000 What the left loves, they found something where they can pick at the Trump team and pick at the Trump team.

00:20:18.000 And people will have different answers because they have different memories.

00:20:21.000 They come from different places.

00:20:23.000 And then each contradiction will become its own story.

00:20:27.000 And the left would like to do nothing more than hide from the underlying realities of what Trump is doing to fundamentally get America back on track.

00:20:36.000 And if they can find some story, any story, that lets them avoid covering the successful things, they're going to go.

00:20:43.000 We understand it was a mistake.

00:20:50.000 Clearly it was a mistake.

00:20:52.000 We have an investigation underway.

00:20:55.000 When we know enough, we will report to you.

00:20:57.000 But until then, we have nothing more to say.

00:20:59.000 Just move on.

00:21:01.000 Yeah, I tend to agree with that.

00:21:03.000 I do think, though, that privately there needs to be some understanding of how he ended up in this group chat.

00:21:10.000 Well, I mean, it should be a real investigation.

00:21:13.000 Yes. Okay?

00:21:14.000 They should assign somebody competent with whatever team they need to find out, one, why were they using Signal?

00:21:22.000 Two, Who put the chat together?

00:21:25.000 Three, how did this particular person end up on the chat?

00:21:28.000 And four, why did they have a procedure which didn't surface this person the minute they were on the chat?

00:21:33.000 All those things need to be done.

00:21:35.000 But I think that's clearly important for the country and for the next three and a half years of the Trump administration.

00:21:43.000 But there's no point in trying to do that out in public until you know something.

00:21:48.000 And frankly, it should be real.

00:21:49.000 It should be serious.

00:21:52.000 They shouldn't just cover it up.

00:21:54.000 They should methodically, seriously understand what happened, share with the American people what they're going to do to fix it in the future, and move on.

00:22:02.000 But wallowing in it and getting involved in who said what to who, did you really put it on?

00:22:08.000 Did your staff person put it on?

00:22:09.000 How did it get there?

00:22:11.000 That kind of stuff.

00:22:12.000 The media loves, gives them something to talk about that doesn't help Trump.

00:22:16.000 But first of all, the average American will get tired of it pretty quickly.

00:22:21.000 And I think the things that Trump is doing and the things that the House and Senate Republicans are doing are so big, so historic, that we want to get back to communicating those.

00:22:32.000 So I completely agree.

00:22:35.000 And this is probably the first hiccup or glitch of what has been a flawless two months.

00:22:41.000 That's right.

00:22:42.000 Speak about that, because the president is best on offense, not taking the terms of the media.

00:22:48.000 Right. And Trump understands this instinctively.

00:22:51.000 That's why he said it was a glitch, and he was going back on offense.

00:22:54.000 And then, unfortunately, several of his team went up and testified in the Hill and didn't quite have their act together.

00:23:02.000 I think that's where you want to have a single sentence or two-sentence answer that basically explains why you're not explaining until you know what you're going to say, which they clearly don't currently know.

00:23:13.000 But Trump has had an astonishing run.

00:23:16.000 From everything we're seeing right now, he's likely to continue to have an astonishing run.

00:23:21.000 And you look just at what they've done on the border.

00:23:25.000 I mean, in my wildest days, I would never have thought you could control the border that quickly.

00:23:31.000 And it was just literally overnight.

00:23:34.000 Everything Biden had done collapsed.

00:23:36.000 People around the world figured out they're not going to get in.

00:23:40.000 Illegal immigration has literally collapsed.

00:23:43.000 The amount of investments being announced in the United States are breathtaking.

00:23:49.000 So you have a lot of good things happening.

00:23:51.000 And frankly, the fight over the shape and structure of the federal bureaucracy is a fight that people know we have to have.

00:24:00.000 In our project that you know about, Charlie, the America's New Majority Project, our polling last month indicated that 82% of the country think that Washington is corrupt, and they think that it makes it harder to solve things because it's corrupt.

00:24:15.000 So if the president will go out there and be the advocate of honest, clear reform, and if that's the basic theme that Elon Musk and Doge take...

00:24:26.000 They're going to have huge popular support for fixing this thing, and people are going to accept that there's going to be some turmoil, there's going to be some confusion, but that unbalance is really a good thing.

00:24:38.000 And there is widespread popular support.

00:24:40.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:24:41.000 We played this prior in the week.

00:24:43.000 Ezra Klein sitting down with David Shore from the New York Times.

00:24:47.000 Ezra Klein is like the chief explainer of data for the left.

00:24:52.000 A smart guy, but terribly wrong on the issues.

00:24:55.000 And he's trying to understand how is it, and I would love to get your take on this, white men over 75 actually supported Kamala Harris at a significantly higher rate than white men who are 20 years old.

00:25:08.000 This is a generational realignment that we're living through.

00:25:11.000 Let's play Cut 75, please.

00:25:13.000 One of the things you can see here is if you just look at 18-year-olds, 18-year-old women of color are the only of the four that actually voted that Harris won.

00:25:22.000 Trump narrowly won.

00:25:24.000 You know, non-white men. 0.98

00:25:26.000 So I do find this part of this chart shocking.

00:25:30.000 I sometimes talk about narrative violations, and I think if we knew anything about Donald Trump eight years ago, it's that young people did not like him.

00:25:37.000 But if you look at this chart among white men who were 75 years old, supported Kamala Harris at a significantly higher rate than white men who are 20 years old.

00:25:50.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:51.000 That's a real shift.

00:25:53.000 It is a real shift.

00:25:54.000 This is the thing I am the most shocked by, I think, in the last four years, is that young people have gone from being the most progressive generation since the baby boomers, and maybe in some ways more so, to becoming potentially the most conservative.

00:26:10.000 What is going on, Mr. Speaker?

00:26:13.000 Well, I mean, first of all, the left failed.

00:26:15.000 You know, you're a young person, you're out there, you're thinking, what can I do?

00:26:21.000 Can I afford to buy a car?

00:26:22.000 Can I afford to buy a house?

00:26:24.000 Can I find a job?

00:26:26.000 Do I think the future is going to get better?

00:26:28.000 And under Biden and Harris, every signal to young people was that their lives were going to be poorer.

00:26:37.000 I think there's a common sense view among younger Americans that this is just stupid.

00:26:54.000 Why would you, in fact, even think that this makes any sense?

00:26:58.000 And so they haven't been brainwashed enough to believe in things that aren't believable.

00:27:04.000 And they're faced with a Bernie Sanders, AOC Democratic Party, which is still moving to the left, despite all the election evidence and everything else we've seen.

00:27:15.000 And I think that that means that younger people, plus I think younger people have a deeper sense of how really corrupt and out of touch the government is, and that it really needs profound change.

00:27:26.000 And where the Democrat Party does not seem to want to moderate themselves, they seem to want to double and even triple down on their wildly unpopular views.

00:27:39.000 I mean, Jasmine Crockett.

00:27:41.000 I'm just going to say, I actually think there are two wings of the Democratic Party, and I think you're likely to see the beginning of sort of a civil war between those two wings.

00:27:54.000 If you watch what happened with Schumer, the Senate Democratic leader, he finally decided as a practical matter.

00:28:01.000 That he didn't believe the Democrats ought to be the party that closed government.

00:28:04.000 So from the standpoint of the left, he sold out.

00:28:08.000 Now, he took about 10 senators with him.

00:28:11.000 And they're now facing really angry crowds back home.

00:28:15.000 And so what you have is the people who are trying to accommodate reality are being isolated from, if you look at the AOC Bernie Sanders Roadshow, they're getting huge crowds.

00:28:28.000 So the intensity...

00:28:30.000 The hard left, which is doubling and tripling down, is growing, while the people in the middle who know that this is not going to work.

00:28:39.000 Are finding themselves squeezed by the reality that the energy and the money and the drive in the Democratic Party is all on the hard left.

00:28:48.000 And that if you try to be rational and moderate, you're almost certainly going to risk a primary campaign and may well get defeated in the primary because you'll be seen as a sellout.

00:28:59.000 That's exactly what happened to the Republicans under Franklin Roosevelt in the 1930s.

00:29:04.000 And that's part of why the New Deal became the dominant coalition for 90 years, because the Republicans just shattered and couldn't figure out what to do.

00:29:13.000 And Trump has done everything right to be a coalition builder in the tradition of Jefferson and Lincoln and Roosevelt.

00:29:21.000 And he continues to both deliver things people want.

00:29:26.000 And to define his opponents and to set up the kind of fights where his opponents rush in to just be mildly crazy.

00:29:33.000 And he started to mention the woman who I hope they're going to censure this week because as a congresswoman, she has said things.

00:29:40.000 Jasmine Davy Crockett.

00:29:42.000 Yep, that's right.

00:29:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:43.000 I mean, the things she's been saying are so vicious.

00:29:47.000 And we do have this problem right now that you have a very substantial militant group on the left who are willing to burn cars, firebomb dealerships, talk about getting Elon Musk, talk about other kind of things that involve violence.

00:30:03.000 I mean, the real threat to violence in America right now is from bitter left-wing extremists who just can't cope with what's happening.

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00:31:16.000 Mr. Speaker, please plug your upcoming projects the way that our audience can support you, please.

00:31:22.000 Well, listen, the biggest project we've got is the America's New Majority Project, which they can see at that title.

00:31:28.000 And then I have a new book coming out this summer called Trump's Triumph, which lays out both how he won, but also what it means for the future of America and the great things we can accomplish.

00:31:38.000 And as always, Charlie, it's great to be with you.

00:31:40.000 You were a major factor in the victory last year, and you're going to be a major factor in winning this cultural fight over the future of America.

00:31:48.000 Well, thank you.

00:31:49.000 I deeply appreciate that, and we appreciate it.

00:31:52.000 And that is the most important thing we're focusing on, is the cultural fight.

00:31:55.000 We've seen a movement with young people, and if we can give some permanency to that, boy, things are not going to be very hopeful for the Democrat Party. 0.99

00:32:05.000 It would change everything.

00:32:07.000 That's right.

00:32:08.000 It would change it fundamentally.

00:32:10.000 It would change America, and then that'll change the world.

00:32:12.000 That's right.

00:32:13.000 So, Mr. Speaker, I don't have the tape handy, but I will do my best to paraphrase it.

00:32:18.000 President Trump actually won immigrants.

00:32:21.000 That's right.

00:32:21.000 Immigrant voters in the battleground states, something that completely blows the mind of Democrat strategists.

00:32:28.000 How do you explain that, that Donald Trump, who's been positioned as anti-immigrant and xenophobic and all that, won the immigrant vote in the seven battleground states, Mr. Speaker?

00:32:41.000 Documentary that was on PBS called Journey to America.

00:32:45.000 And we took nine people who came here legally and who made America a better country.

00:32:50.000 Because we want to make the point that while we're against illegal immigration, that legal immigration often makes America stronger.

00:32:57.000 I think everybody I talk to who's a legal immigrant is really angry at the idea that people just plain broke the law.

00:33:05.000 They didn't wait in line.

00:33:06.000 They didn't obey the rules.

00:33:08.000 They are, in effect, in their minds, illegitimate.

00:33:11.000 And they don't want that rewarded.

00:33:13.000 Furthermore, a lot of people who came here from countries that have dangerous gangs, like Venezuela and El Salvador, really don't want the gangs here.

00:33:22.000 That's part of why they were attracted to America.

00:33:25.000 So I think the left has always misunderstood the nature of legal immigration in America and the fact that, for example, When you deal with most Latinos, you're dealing with people who are very often devout Christians or Catholics or Pentecostals or fundamentalists, but very Christian, believe in very traditional values.

00:33:46.000 You go talk to them about having boys.

00:33:50.000 They think you're just nuts.

00:33:52.000 You go talk to them about the importance of welfare.

00:33:55.000 They think you're crazy.

00:33:57.000 They think people should work.

00:33:58.000 And we've done a ton of polling at the America's New Majority Project.

00:34:02.000 And every time we poll it, people believe that everybody who gets money from the federal government should work, unless you have a severe disability.

00:34:11.000 And they believe that people who are able-bodied and take money without working are committing fraud.

00:34:19.000 Nobody on the left understands these things.

00:34:21.000 That's why Trump going to McDonald's was an active genius.

00:34:26.000 Because 87% of Americans go to McDonald's every year.

00:34:31.000 40 million people have worked at McDonald's, including Jeff Bezos.

00:34:35.000 And on the left, of course, they used to say, you don't want to take some hamburger flipping job.

00:34:39.000 And of course, on the left, they don't serve Chablis at McDonald's.

00:34:43.000 They don't serve French food.

00:34:44.000 It's a hard experience.

00:34:46.000 So Trump understood where the American people were.

00:34:49.000 Nobody on the hard left has a clue where the American people are.

00:34:53.000 And they have kind of an elite snobbishness that just puts them totally out of sync with the American people.

00:34:59.000 If you were to develop a battle plan...

00:35:02.000 For the Republican caucus for this midterm election, what would that be?

00:35:07.000 Midterms are goofy.

00:35:08.000 You've had a lot of success in midterm cycles before.

00:35:12.000 How would you develop the messaging and the strategy coming into 2026?

00:35:18.000 I would say three things.

00:35:19.000 One, work as a team.

00:35:22.000 You're now the governing party, so you have to work together.

00:35:25.000 You have to find good reasons to vote yes when you're the opposition party.

00:35:29.000 You find good reasons to vote no.

00:35:30.000 Well, that ain't your role now.

00:35:32.000 Your role is to be a team, to work together.

00:35:33.000 Number one.

00:35:34.000 Number two, you have to pass the tax cut bill and the deregulation bill.

00:35:41.000 Ideally by May, no later than mid-June, because it has to be in effect in time for the economy next year to be taking off and for people to say, you know, Trump's delivered.

00:35:53.000 I feel better.

00:35:54.000 I have more money in my pocket.

00:35:55.000 I want to keep it going.

00:35:57.000 And three, I think the key issue next year is going to be a very simple question.

00:36:01.000 Is it working?

00:36:02.000 If they decide it is working, and certainly we have right now one of the highest right-track numbers on polling that we've seen in decades.

00:36:10.000 If they decide this is all working, they're going to re-elect the Republicans.

00:36:14.000 The Democrats are going to shrink to being a tiny minority.

00:36:18.000 And we have a real chance, I think, to make America great again and to create that golden age that Trump has talked about.

00:36:25.000 Very well said.

00:36:25.000 Mr. Speaker, thank you.

00:36:27.000 And just remind our audience of the website the way that they can support you.

00:36:30.000 Well, they can remind everything I do.

00:36:33.000 Three podcasts that are free, three newsletters, books and things at Gingrich360.com.

00:36:38.000 Wonderful. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for your time.

00:36:40.000 God bless you.

00:36:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:43.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:45.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 26, 2025

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