In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Andrew Colvet and co-host Tim Poole are joined by former Utah State football player Charlie Kirk to discuss a variety of topics, including the recent events that took place at the Turning Point USA event, a bomb threat at UVU, and more.
00:01:00.000We are uh honored to be joined today by the one the only I think you're like what are you, the record holder of YouTube streams or something?
00:01:47.000Well, listen, I uh I wanna we have so much news to cover today.
00:01:52.000And you know, first of all, I want to give a big hat tip to our team and what they accomplished at Utah State last night.
00:01:59.000We had what we have Tyler Boyer was out there.
00:02:01.000We had Jason Chaffetz, who was actually there, he was a witness on the day uh at UVU, and we had uh Governor Cox, and I want to explain some of the backstory with the Governor Cox thing, because I know there was some some uh some hemming and hawing and some heartburn over why uh we invited Governor Cox.
00:02:22.000So uh a great showing, and this was actually the largest evening event to date that we have ever done at Turning Point USA at a at a college.
00:02:33.000So there was over 6,000 people in attendance for this, and the crowd was fired up.
00:02:39.000You can see that if you're watching the stream.
00:02:41.000They the the energy in this room, I keep I everybody was texting me.
00:04:44.000We i it it doesn't like nobody seems to care about this story, but it is political news, so I want to I want to make sure we talk about it.
00:04:50.000And that's the sh the the Schumer shutdown.
00:04:56.000Because obviously we've been distracted by everything.
00:04:58.000And in the background, there was like, oh, there's a government shutdown possibly approaching.
00:05:02.000So even I feel a lot of us at Turning Point are belatedly looking.
00:05:06.000Oh, we should we should probably know about this because people will ask about it.
00:05:09.000It's interesting because before all of this happened, we were talking about it months ago.
00:05:14.000We were kind of circling on our calendar knowing that this was going to be a thing, and then obviously what what happened with Charlie, it has totally faded into the background.
00:05:22.000And it feels even more so now, Tim, because of everything that happened.
00:05:35.000And and to be honest, last night on Timcast RL, we decided not to lead with the government shutdown story because of the bomb threat or hoax device at the TPUSA event.
00:05:45.000And I feel like I we're talking to Jack Basobic about this.
00:05:49.000I'm not sure we're that concerned with the government shutdown when we've had uh in the past four weeks four terror attacks.
00:05:56.000It's it's the question we ask when we launch every show is what is the big story that people are looking for and wanting to understand about and uh understand.
00:06:07.000But I think right now, when I talk to regular people, when you listen to some of these other podcasts, big shows, even Joe Rogan, they're talking about what happened to Charlie still.
00:06:16.000It's kind of there there's the pros and the cons of that, right?
00:06:19.000We don't want to forget Charlie, but at the same time, it's because we're still scared.
00:06:22.000And and I'll say I'll stress this again nothing is there's nothing wrong with being afraid.
00:06:27.000It's what you do in the face of your fears.
00:06:29.000Do you back down, do you give up, or do you persevere?
00:06:31.000And I think that's what everyone's trying to do.
00:06:33.000So when I saw a video of a of a detonation at one of your guys' events, I was scared.
00:06:49.000Uh I the likes are not public anymore, uh, but I you can see people when they like your tweet.
00:06:54.000And I've seen some high profile people, including Elon Musk, like a tweet uh uh for or a post from that I posted yesterday about this new Rutgers uh poll that says, you know, 50% of people think it over 50% of progressives, left of center people think that it would be justified to kill Elon Musk to advance their political views, or Donald Trump to advance their political views.
00:07:19.000There's a new poll out today that is also really terrifying.
00:07:24.000But you know, we were talking about this before we came on.
00:07:27.000Steven Crowder has felt moved to go back onto campus and you know, basically do his because Stephen Stephen called him Change My Mind.
00:07:55.000In 2016, the idea was hey, calling the left on their bluff civil dialogue with anyone to the tune of billions of plays and hundreds of hours, and it got increasingly violent.
00:08:05.000And what I didn't tell people, I told people out there, go do this on your own campus, have these conversations.
00:08:10.000I advocated for it, and Charlie took it to another level.
00:08:15.000What I didn't do, I didn't tell people about the threats because I didn't want copycats.
00:08:20.000I didn't tell them about terrorists from Yemen through Sweden showing up in East Grand Rapids.
00:08:24.000I didn't tell them about concrete milkshakes.
00:08:26.000I didn't tell them about my tires getting slashed, about people trying to firebom my car, and maybe if I would have picked up the phone, maybe if I would have used this megaphone to tell people it's real life out there, and the left wants you dead, maybe Charlie would have had a fighting chance.
00:09:26.000The younger generation has picked up that that baton and they're carrying on that legacy.
00:09:30.000I became too well known, and the threats were intense.
00:09:34.000Where we're at today, even yesterday, in the face of all the threats that I get, where we've we've increased our security, which is already intense.
00:09:42.000I have people on the right saying, don't talk about it.
00:09:45.000Don't let anyone know because you don't want like exactly what Crowder was saying, you don't want copycats.
00:09:49.000You'll make it worse if you bring it up.
00:09:51.000I fear this has created a perception for the average American that the right is not facing death on a regular basis for going out and talking about these things.
00:10:01.000Tim, keep going, because this is important.
00:10:03.000I really wanted I don't want to interrupt this because you're saying you don't you you and others, and Stephen said the same thing that have been reticent to talk about the threats because you didn't want to inspire more.
00:10:14.000We got uh in in 2022, we were swatted at my studio 15 times.
00:10:20.000We had the bomb squad called out three times.
00:10:22.000They deployed robots, I believe, in two of these occasions because hoax devices had been sent, which the standard police deployment could not assess.
00:10:32.000They had to get the actual machines out there.
00:10:34.000There are people like Cam Higby and Nick Shirley who are currently on the ground.
00:10:37.000Just recently, uh someone threatened to kill Nick Shirley on the ground in Portland.
00:10:43.000I fear, exactly as Steven Crowder pointed out, that because we constantly are told don't talk about the threats you're getting, these younger guys don't understand how serious the death threats we're getting, why we stopped doing it.
00:10:57.000And so they go out there thinking, well, I know Antifa is violent.
00:11:00.000I've heard about what happened to Annie No, but as Crowder pointed out, the slashing of his tires, the following firebombing of his vehicles, terrorists from foreign countries showing up.
00:11:09.000Just the other day, in the face of the death threats we have been receiving, which you know, we've been in contact with the FBI over.
00:11:16.000I have conservatives, people on the right saying, don't bring it up.
00:11:30.000I think uh a reasonable thing to uh speculate on is we we have to take it more seriously in the sense of actually what we should do is we should make sure these things are investigated, and if they are uh if they're able to make an arrest, you have to punish that harder.
00:11:45.000You're just gonna say if you're going to make actual threats to kill somebody, we're going to put your face on the internet and we're going to put you in jail for five years.
00:11:53.000And as longer than that, like as they say, or longer candidly.
00:11:56.000And just like dox people with their address of people who threaten people.
00:12:01.000So just so we're clear, it is patently insane to say, you know, to threaten somebody's life.
00:12:08.000I'm going to kill go out of your way and say those words.
00:12:12.000And and yeah, I mean, I've seen some of yours.
00:12:38.000One thing we haven't talked about, and I'm I I totally agree with the fact that we need to change our strategy because there's just too many data points right now that show that the left and especially hard left and younger progressives are getting extraordinarily radical.
00:12:53.000And so we need to also attack the funding networks.
00:12:56.000And I will never get this out of my head, Tim.
00:12:59.000The last text message that Charlie sent to Stephen Miller said we need to address the financing networks of those groups that are fomenting violence.
00:13:09.000It was the last one he sent Stephen Miller.
00:13:11.000And if I trust anybody to be a dog with a bone on this stuff, it's uh Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, who he and and Katie have been com you know completely harassed by these people and and uh docs.
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00:14:37.000Uh man, wow, when I walked into the building yesterday, uh, or two days ago, we were we were doing our Tim Castarell show from you guys' headquarters, we came out, and I remembered the studio that you guys had so graciously built for us so that we could come and do this.
00:14:52.000The the extent that the TP USA team and Charlie went for us to have us be involved in what you guys had built, uh it it it it is beyond an honor.
00:15:03.000It it's you know, every every I I describe this job as uh being sysyfist pushing the rock up the hill.
00:15:11.000And I've I have a lot of companies that say, Hey, come on my show, hey, will you what can I interview on this?
00:15:16.000And it's always it's always a chore, it's always work.
00:15:18.000There's only one time it didn't feel that way.
00:15:20.000It I I described it as when when you guys extended that offer to come out here, it was like all of a sudden the weight of that rock had been gone, and I looked to my right, and Charlie is pushing that rock up the mountain and says, We got this.
00:15:30.000Come be a part of what we're working on.
00:15:34.000You not only built us a studio so that we could be here, and again for us now, but when we had technical difficulties, brought us in and said, You can use Charlie.
00:15:44.000You can sit in my chair, do your show, we're grateful to have you.
00:15:48.000I walked in on Monday, and those memories came flooding back of that that that feeling, and then instantly it was cut in half by the by the knowledge of what had happened to Charlie, and I almost started crying.
00:16:02.000Well, Charlie always loved having you at our events, Tim, and you I think you're a really important voice, and you you occupy a lane and you do it in such a way that I think really engages, you know, a whole different audience, right?
00:16:16.000That that we couldn't reach or weren't reaching is or maybe we did, I don't know.
00:16:19.000But like the point is, you did a you do you do a great job, and we were honored to have you, and um still honored to have you.
00:16:26.000That's why I reached out because it was like I appreciate it.
00:16:33.000I can't believe the amazing thing that you guys had built.
00:16:35.000And you know, he's come on my show a couple of times, we've got these these hand drawings, we've he's autographed them for us, these posters.
00:16:41.000And so when I come here and I see everything that you guys have done, when it's the craziest feeling in the world for you know you and Charlie to have been like, no, Tim, you gotta be here.
00:17:29.000There's a clip going viral right now from Joe Rogan's show where he's talking about how he's shocked.
00:17:34.000So many run-of-the-mill liberals, teachers, doctors, have been celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:17:41.000And with all due respect, because I think Joe's a great guy, I told him this on his show six years ago.
00:17:48.000We sat down with the executives from Twitter, Jack Dorsey and Vijayagada.
00:17:52.000And I explicitly stated, one of my key points of the show is that if you create this bifurcation in the world, and if if you do not allow people the ability to speak and come together, I'm gonna build a van and go live down by the river because it's gonna it's gonna go, it's gonna be civil war.
00:18:13.000I hate to say this, people call me blackpilled.
00:18:16.000But when you have social media platforms that allow monetization and social growth from celebrating assassinations, you will get more of it.
00:18:27.000Young people were told after the assassination of Brian Thompson in New York that assassins are celebrated by the left on social media.
00:18:36.000And they told me, you know, YouTube, X, all these platforms, well, Twitter before Elon bought it.
00:18:41.000Celebration of death is against the rules to celebrate murder and violence is against rules.
00:19:39.000And they they hand a note of Charlie being shot.
00:19:41.000Like, ha ha, here's your this person you may have met just dead.
00:19:45.000It like this level of like nastiness, like going down to the core that you've cultivate in these little ways, and it turns into this big violence when it's indulged.
00:19:54.000So, Tim, why don't you explain for the audience what's going on with the ADL?
00:19:58.000The ADL had turning point listed as an extremist hate group.
00:20:03.000Uh meanwhile, it was it looked like it was apologizing for Antifa.
00:20:13.000Did you know that I I think numbers one through 60 were considered racist?
00:20:17.000I'm not even kidding, like that's lawsuit.
00:20:18.000It's like, here's why number three is racist.
00:20:20.000And so they have turning point USA listed in their glossary of terms, describing it as a you know like a hate group or something that affect.
00:20:27.000They've since gotten rid of the whole thing.
00:20:29.000And I think at least they're starting to recognize the role they played in the avalanche.
00:20:33.000The saying goes, the snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche.
00:20:36.000Each and each one of these NGOs, these these organizations, they make money, they receive donations when they accuse people on the right of being Nazis or white supremacists.
00:20:45.000But you know what the problem is, they uh strip mined the whole place.
00:20:48.000There were no white supremacists left to condemn, so what could they do?
00:20:51.000Well, uh move over to regular old conservatives and accuse them of being racists, I guess.
00:21:28.000I'll give them credit for that, but we still should recognize the problem and what they're doing.
00:21:31.000It's amazing how uh effective these lies can be.
00:21:34.000I I'm reminded of when Charlie was at Oxford and they, you know, you have to point and counterpoint point and counterpoint that sort of thing.
00:21:42.000And Charlie just just dismissed that one gal, like out of out of it.
00:21:45.000I think it was a professor who parodied the Very Fine People hoax.
00:22:35.000They when I went to Sweden, Donald Trump had that famous moment on TV in 2017, last night in Sweden, he said, and so I did what I always have done.
00:22:42.000I said, I'm gonna go there and film vlogs and many documentaries about what's going on.
00:22:47.000I had journalists messaging me saying, Don't do it.
00:22:50.000And I'm like, I don't understand why why I'm and they said Trump's lying.
00:23:11.000Because the Democrat argument is if you entered the country illegally, but claim asylum after the fact, you are now a legal, you are a lawful uh uh immigrant.
00:23:22.000Yes, just by virtue of whether it's been adjudicated or otherwise by saying so.
00:23:26.000Now, if CNN told me that and said the argument between Democrats and Republicans is I would accept their news company as a news company, but they don't.
00:23:51.000Like, and by the way, every time we try and change the status for temporary protected immigrant or whatever, and or you know, whether I I guess DACA would be included, these asylums, we're trying to get rid of them because that we believe that they were given the the status illegally or fraudulently.
00:24:09.000You you run into judges that will will block them.
00:24:12.000But here's I mean, it's it's a essentially it's a a patent a pedantic argument, and you're you're right.
00:24:20.000The news does not want to give you the truth.
00:24:21.000They want to cover for their side, they are activists uh in j in journalist clothing.
00:24:26.000And I mean, I think everybody's just getting really upset, like getting tired of it.
00:24:30.000However, there is this contingent that we're seeing on the hard left, the progressive young left, that obviously doesn't want the truth, they just want to kill their enemies.
00:25:02.000Composed of loose collections of groups, networks, and individuals who are vigorously, vigorously.
00:25:07.000It's like a, you know, it's an oddly positive way to say it, opposed to fascism, and focused on countering right wing extremism, both online and on the ground.
00:25:18.000And this is where it gets really egregious.
00:25:20.000While some Antifa adherents have engaged in violence or vandalism at rallies and events, this is not the norm, despite disinformation campaigns that suggest otherwise.
00:25:31.000Well, as a journalist who has been on the ground and inside of their meetings, I can confirm that's all lies.
00:25:37.000They they engage in what's called the diversity of tactics.
00:25:41.000They have meetings where they invite these peaceful protesters to join their direct action meetings where the leaders, the financiers and the organizers supply tools and signs and resources and a plan.
00:25:52.000So there's an effective leader, they they work international.
00:25:55.000We call them the tourists, because somehow the same people in New York are in LA and Turkey.
00:26:00.000And then what happens is they tell a certain group, everyone wear the same clothing.
00:26:05.000You wear black masks that way, when our agents get violent, they can't convict us.
00:26:26.000The legal apparatus they have as an aside to their groups, then goes to the legal system, creates reasons by which the person busts me must be released.
00:26:33.000They exploit our speech laws, our criminal laws, and our court systems, so they can engage in this violence.
00:26:41.000The money comes from somewhere, the signs come from somewhere, the marching plans, what route they're gonna take comes from somewhere, and they're all flying the same symbol.
00:26:50.000And by the way, in places like Portland, you know, we had Tom Homan in the studio yesterday, and you know, you've got this ongoing battle in Portland to defend federal property and the ICE facilities that are by the way getting snipered in places like what there's been three ice facilities that have been shot up, right?
00:27:07.000Uh illegal immigrants in that instance died in in Texas.
00:27:11.000So you've in places like Portland, where the local leaders are like, nothing to see here, everything's safe and peaceful.
00:27:18.000I mean, they have allowed these Antifa militant groups, these guerrilla groups, to grow and fester and unabated.
00:27:25.000I mean, it it they they are absolutely organized and they they run the city.
00:27:31.000I would actually point out like the decentralization thing is actually fairly true, and it's how they get away with a lot of what they do, which is they are able to any time someone you know reaches out, they sort of melt away and all of that.
00:27:43.000And so you do need unusual techniques to go after them.
00:27:47.000We need to update our techniques and that's the so like when you say like go after the funding networks.
00:27:51.000A lot of the people in Antifa are huge losers, which means they don't need a lot of money to do things.
00:27:56.000They're the sort of people who are willing to be quasi-homeless or live out of a really crappy apartment, and all they do all day is go menace ordinary civilized people.
00:28:06.000But I think it doesn't take a lot of money to do that.
00:28:08.000The decentralized thing is is a tricky uh position.
00:28:11.000The when the ADL says they're leaderless, I don't believe for a second the ADL does not understand how these systems operate.
00:28:19.000I think they're intentionally covering for the left uh for legal reasons.
00:28:23.000So in these direct action meetings, they will explain to you why the leaders must remain nameless.
00:28:29.000They they have explicitly stated at all the meetings, I've been to maybe like a dozen of these.
00:28:33.000They say if our leaders come forward and they're visible to law enforcement, they will be targeted, arrested, or smeared in the press.
00:28:41.000So while the leaders do exist, you meet them, you shake their hands.
00:28:51.000So somebody is telling people where to go because anybody who's worked at a Walmart or a Baskin Robin, sort of, understands some people are management, some people are not.
00:29:01.000And why is the ADL then claiming it's not it's it's leaderless, other than to just call it?
00:29:05.000You know what bothers me, and you you had a great bit on this earlier, uh, Blake, a couple shows back, where we're talking about this both sides is them, right?
00:29:12.000I went on Smirkonish on CNN, I believe the weekend after it happened.
00:29:17.000And you know how you if you do like a news hit, they they plug you into the program feed, you kind of hear the program before your interview comes up.
00:29:24.000So you're sitting there watching the show.
00:29:26.000And you know, Smirkonish is an okay guy.
00:29:28.000I'm not I'm not I I really don't have any particular bone to pick up, but I got inflamed that day.
00:29:34.000And it took everything in me to just keep it down the middle on the fairway because I had to sit through a whole this is both sides, both sides need to tone down the red, or both sides need to do this.
00:29:44.000And I'm I'm sitting here going, like, you guys have no idea what our side has been up against for so long.
00:29:50.000And guys like you and guys like Steven Crowder and guys like Charlie knew it and and he knew it, and you guys know it firsthand because the death threats and the threats are very real, and there's the calls with the FBI are very real, and you're constantly trying to play whack-a-mole with this stuff because groups like the ADL whitewashed it and they cover for it.
00:30:08.000And this is again why I got so mad at Jimmy Kimmel, because he that was a tacit indication, a signal saying we're gonna whitewash when people kill conservatives.
00:30:20.000And by the way, when you tell me I can't, I'm gonna double down on it because I don't think you you deserve the truth.
00:30:24.000We we saw this uh Cato study, they say the right is responsible for more extremism, more violence.
00:30:29.000What they're really doing is they're saying, um, fringe sovereign citizen and white supremacist extremists are the same thing as Charlie Kirk.
00:30:49.000Okay, well, the concern we have when we say the left is that AOC went on the House floor and espoused the same ideology as the alleged assassin.
00:30:57.000That is where we say, wow, this I this ideology of the liberals of mainstream liberals, moderate democrats, is held by violent extremists.
00:31:04.000We are concerned about how violent they have gotten.
00:31:07.000Well, they then say the right is doing it, but you can't compare Steven Crowder or Charlie Kirk to some clan guy in the middle of Nebraska or who knows where.
00:31:16.000Well, and by the way, you you made the point though that a lot of people were quoting the ADL crime sort of data, some study, and it wasn't it done by a guy that was connected somehow to the Antifa.
00:31:31.000I don't know which I can't remember which one.
00:31:32.000This one this might have been the uh like uh can't remember the name.
00:31:36.000But yeah, one of those studies they were passing on was just literally made by an Antifa activist.
00:31:40.000Uh there was like three or four databases that they were like always sharing that do this.
00:31:45.000Pull up pull up the A ADL heat map, the extremism map, and right wing has right wing white supremacy, white ring white right wing anti-government, and right wing other.
00:32:10.000Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's like as far as you want to go down the rabbit hole, right?
00:32:13.000It just keeps getting worse and and uh we something has to be done, and I think you're you're spot on that we're gonna have to adjust our our tactics to to you know confront this, or we're all in deep, deep trouble.
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00:35:03.000Um You know, I I wanna I do kind of want to talk about Sombrero Gate just because I think it's fun that we are that are the president of the United States is trolling trolling Dollars Dore Obama and uh shut down Schumer.
00:35:17.000What's great is they're gonna scream that it's racist, and I like guarantee they already are.
00:35:21.000And that but I guarantee that actual Hispanics, like especially Mexican Americans, will find it extremely funny.
00:35:26.000Because it's the same thing with like speedy Gonzalez, where like they would all complain that that's racist, and actual Mexicans love speedy gonzales.
00:35:33.000Like the Mexican Americans generally really like like Mexican themed like humor and cultural stuff.
00:36:17.000So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of you know, at least for a while until they they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
00:37:17.000These are clearly targeted at younger millennials, Gen Z. And I think about who would be most offended by these things, and it's your, you know, your your aging MSNBC viewer.
00:37:28.000I think I think exactly younger people are just laughing, being like it's good to have fun, you know.
00:37:33.000Yeah, that's such a good point, though.
00:37:34.000It it like if you had to do a psychographic of who would be most offended by this, it's definitely probably not Mexico like Hispanics.
00:37:45.000You you really you they've really eroded their ability to find things funny.
00:37:48.000That's why like all the late night shows are so unfunny or their stand-up comics are so unfunny.
00:37:52.000Like it's actually the sense of humor is atrophied because they can't handle transgression.
00:37:56.000So we get the kind of seal clapping humor where they're just like, oh, what about that Trump?
00:38:07.000And I I I actually, you know, I said this to a Fox reporter.
00:38:10.000They were, you know, because it at some point it got be it became like Colvet versus Kimmel, like I, you know, during the height of that story.
00:38:16.000And obviously, Kimmel's still on air, but I told the Fox reporter, I was like, listen, I don't want him off the air.
00:38:21.000I want like I don't want to make a martyr of him.
00:38:24.000I you know, let him let him, you know, go the way that he should on his own accord by not being funny, and by the left just completely losing their sense of humor.
00:38:33.000Uh, not to mention his ratings are that's what I mean.
00:39:02.000It's not, and by the way, like this show does better in that demo.
00:39:05.000Oh, you could you could post a picture of that and do better in the demo.
00:39:09.000You know, but like that's what I said.
00:39:10.000Like, let him just like he's gonna get Colbert.
00:39:12.000They're gonna realize the numbers don't add up.
00:39:15.000And you know, in many ways, when Nexstar and Um Sinclair took him off the air, it was kind of pushing against an open door, right?
00:39:23.000Like they were they were already there's a lot of pressure within the ABC, you know, brass because the show is too expensive and because the ratings are terrible.
00:39:30.000And you know, if you're coming into this kind of controversy, that's that's not good either.
00:39:52.000All right, so I played this clip yesterday, but I want to play it again for you.
00:39:55.000Um, and like I said, I saw some of the people who liked it and on on when I posted it, and they are people that are certainly being targeted.
00:40:03.000So I mean, everybody is aware of this.
00:40:05.000Uh, and I don't want to blackpill everybody.
00:40:08.000Like, I in my heart, I hope there's a way out of this that doesn't lead to violence.
00:40:39.000Users online are increasingly associating the mimification of Luigi Mangioni with calls for political violence against Elon Musk, President Trump, and others reflecting the growing cyber social presence of assassination culture.
00:40:53.000And I show you have some findings that they have here on justification.
00:41:26.000I would tell everybody have as many kids as possible, because that is the way out, which means there's some speed bumps for the next 20 years, maybe maybe even 30 or 40.
00:41:34.000But what we're looking at is the polarization of moral worldview.
00:41:39.000Clearly, the right doesn't want to kill people, the left feels it's justified in the majority.
00:41:45.000But if you actually break those polls down, what you'll find is that older liberals do not want to kill people either.
00:41:51.000The bulk of that bloodlust comes from the younger, younger millennial and Gen Z liberals.
00:41:57.000Now there is some light at the end of the tunnel in that, as disturbing as this may be, liberals for the longest time are are either through birth control, abortion, or uh child we'll call the well gender affirming care they call it, creating a generation that cannot have kids and they're having less kids themselves.
00:42:14.000We are seeing this trend towards the right in term uh Gen Z is trending rightward.
00:42:19.000And it's not just because we are winning culturally through the battle of ideas, but also because conservatives just have kids.
00:42:26.000So you are going to have this large co cohort over the next 10, 20 or 30 years as they move into industry and politics that are very violent.
00:42:35.000However, they're not having kids themselves, which means it's a wave that we will get through maybe 20 or 30 years from now.
00:42:41.000Blake, why don't you talk about I mean, because I could do it, but I I actually just did this on his show.
00:42:47.000Talk about one, the having family thing.
00:42:50.000Because I know you have a family, Tim, and that's changed you dramatically.
00:42:54.000But what Charlie thought about that, but also he was proposing like a moonshot to get young people to buy into America.
00:43:02.000Yeah, uh it's funny to ask me about this, because of course I'm I'm horrible on this front.
00:43:10.000He was yeah, well, he was just very aware that uh when you have atomized people, like individuals whose main point of existence with the world is essentially online because they don't have an IRL as you'd call it, because they don't have a family and they don't have the social networks that a family necessarily creates.
00:44:02.000And I've seen it with my parents where they'll cycle through my siblings get in my younger siblings would get into different activities, and suddenly, oh, there's this new friend of our family is because their kid played basketball with my sister, sort of thing.
00:44:14.000And all of these are what are creating your tethers to the rest of society.
00:44:19.000And by extension, your ability to care about society, your ability to care about America.
00:44:24.000And we enrich that by having more families with more kids.
00:44:28.000When you have a kid, and Tim, I don't know, you you're pretty new to new to this game.
00:44:33.000But when you have kids, all of a sudden it changes the way you look at content that you see on on the streaming platforms or whatever.
00:44:41.000It changes the way you look at laws or homelessness.
00:44:44.000It changes the way you look at how we take care of public parks, you know, smelling weed in public places.
00:44:50.000It it it starts forcing you to think about the world in a different way.
00:45:52.000In fact, you wouldn't even need a cup of sugar because you can knock on his door and he'd lend it to you without it without without a thought.
00:47:16.000You know, you know, we were asking people to come in, you know, we're like, oh, you know, people take a day or something, and Tim's like, I'll be there all week.
00:47:22.000Well in order in order to do Timcast IRL, I there's no way to travel in and out.
00:47:27.000So I was like, I can do it if we can and but TP USA, you guys are amazing.
00:47:30.000They set us they set a studio up for the case.
00:47:31.000But how cool is that that it's it's you so you're doing your show every single day from because I remember my buddy was when he heard when you were on Andrew was on the other day, he goes, Oh, did Andrew fly to West Virginia because he was just listening.
00:47:45.000And and I was like, No, he's right here.
00:48:54.000They think it's the funniest thing ever.
00:48:56.000They think it's the greatest thing ever.
00:48:58.000They think they actually did something.
00:49:00.000And the fact that it loses money from Disney, by the way, which is of course one of America's most beloved institutions prior to the current ownership or current, you know, managership, is again something to love because uh because remember, uh, they can never create.
00:49:16.000All they can do is corrupt and destroy.
00:49:18.000And so that's what they're doing, which they did also, by the way, to Jimmy Kimmel, who used to be great.
00:49:57.000I I I excuse me, I have tremendous respect for Dana White.
00:50:00.000I'm a huge fan of his business acumen, let alone UFC.
00:50:02.000And Joe's a good friend who's uh really helped me out in my my life and career personally, so I I say this with all due respect.
00:50:09.000I I it's it is either that they are not actively paying attention or they are deeply scared about what is happening to this country.
00:50:16.000And so again, I don't say this with any derision.
00:50:19.000Dana White came out recently saying, Oh, we can't have this cancel culture over Charlie Kirk's assassination, it's wrong.
00:50:24.000And I feel like something something to that effect that people are losing their jobs.
00:50:29.000I've I feel like that misses the big picture.
00:50:30.000Joe Rogan has a viral clip right now where he says he's surprised at so many people celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:50:36.000And the reason I bring that up is well, I've I've been on Joe's show several times and talked to him sp explicitly about this.
00:50:42.000In fact, the the Twitter episode ended with me saying I was going to go live in a van down by the river to avoid the coming civil war because of what they were fomenting on the case.
00:50:50.000That's when you're on with Jack and Vijaya.
00:50:53.000The the systems that they had built ten years ago I had warned about.
00:50:57.000So I'm I'm surprised to see uh Joe is shocked by the celebration from these liberals.
00:51:02.000I'm I'm wondering if there's actually more of a look, I'm just gonna say it, I'm tired of being over over overly diplomatic to people when I have some critique of them.
00:51:12.000And I know there's there's so much that I owe Joe, but I do feel like he's saying these things because he's scared of what the left will do to him and his family, and so he's kind of walking things back and acting like, oh, I I had no idea.
00:51:58.000So I know he just said they were indoctrinated, but I saw that, and I'm just kind of thinking, I don't know how you spend as many years in the cultural space as you have and find yourself surprised.
00:53:21.000So cancel culture is when you dig up someone's like old statements and try to get them kids.
00:53:27.000Like when you when you like what you say that's I don't think police are.
00:53:32.000Or or at least if it's like something they say, like people just lost their jobs because they said, like, I don't think there should be riots.
00:53:38.000People lost their jobs because they said I think riots might hurt Democrats in the elections.
00:53:43.000How about people lost their jobs for that?
00:53:47.000He didn't put an appropriate image on Instagram and he got a uh a letter from his like his board wrote him a letter being like you weren't sufficiently angry over.
00:53:56.000Yeah, that's not that's not cancel culture at all.
00:53:58.000That's people saying, I don't want my my ch have to bring my child to a doctor's office that has that doctor or has that nurse or I don't want that person working in my HR department because you're celebrating someone's murder.
00:54:11.000That's totally different from cancel culture.
00:54:14.000It's not even in the same ballpark at all.
00:54:16.000I don't uh honestly, you are correct, but I'm gonna say this.
00:54:20.000I don't care make it cancel culture, and I'll tell you why.
00:54:22.000The line for the left, and this is to your to your point that you're correct on.
00:54:25.000The line for the left is you said something that disagrees with our pseudo our our non-theistic religion.
00:55:03.000I think they should be canceled, because a society that tolerates the veneration of assassins and assassinations is a society that has opened the door to civil war.
00:55:23.000I am I am so on board with cancel culture.
00:55:26.000If you if and by the way, one of the things that gave me strength in the immediate aftermath was seeing accounts like Libs of TikTok just like calling these people out, blasting them up, these uh these tweets are going crazy, people getting fired.
00:55:38.000I was like, yes, because this is absurd that we would put up with this as a culture.
00:55:59.000With your canceling someone who is celebrating the literal canceling of the man who sat in this chair right here.
00:56:07.000And if you're gonna celebrate that, then yeah, you should lose your job, you should lose your pension, you should use your la your rank if you're in the military, whatever it is, lose it, lose all of it.
00:57:03.000My line is when you when you advocate for the destruction of our political systems through murder, I say you should be excised from polite society.
00:57:12.000You can come back, forgiveness is always available for those uh who who, you know, perhaps give an act of contrition of some sort.
00:57:21.000But if we say Jimmy Kimmel, tens of millions of liberals can go online and make money, get followers, build build media businesses off of celebrating assassins, you're looking at Rwanda all over again.
00:57:33.000Yeah, so and and and Andrew, the only thing I would just tweak to what you're saying is we don't celebrate cancel culture, but we will use counter cancel culture to end all of it.
00:57:43.000Well, this is what Emily uh one of our listeners says.
00:57:46.000It's not it's consequence consequence culture, not cancel culture.
00:57:49.000Hey guys, I'll offer you this alternative to cancel culture.
00:57:52.000It's not a matter of canceling them for their words, it's a matter of them suffering the consequences of their words.
00:57:59.000And it's like I mean, listen, but but like we don't want to repeat, we don't want to repeat their exact lingo because like correct that's their justification for everyone.
00:58:40.000Here's here's the f philosophical reality is that.
00:58:43.000When the right was talking about free speech, it was presented as a very binary choice for the average person, but there was always a depth to it.
00:58:49.000And that is at what point would a conservative fire someone from their company for something they said?
00:59:44.000And that's what was so radicalizing, I think about it for people that it wasn't just AOC and Ilhan Omar and Barack Obama who were smearing Charlie and Death.
01:00:06.000And if you've got people who've got the power of life and death, it literally in their hands every day.
01:00:11.000And that's what they believe, you realize how bad the brain rot has gotten in this country.
01:00:15.000Everyone knows that even right now, where we sit, there are things that if we said it would destroy our professional careers.
01:00:19.000Of course, there's things you don't say.
01:00:21.000Conservatives tend to be honest and have always been about what we can and can't talk about, and liberals just said we'll ban you if you defy us.
01:00:27.000Um we do, we are working, the studio's gonna tell me, okay, it is ready.
01:00:32.000Let's go ahead and throw to this press conference with JD Vance and Caroline Levitt.
01:00:36.000A partisan clean piece of legislation to extend current government funding until November 21st.
01:00:43.000But nearly every single Democrat senator voted against this bill.
01:00:48.000To be clear, this was the exact same bill that Democrats approved six short months ago in March, just adjusted for inflation.
01:00:56.000This is the same kind of clean funding bill that Democrats passed 13 separate times when they held the majority during Joe Biden's administration.
01:01:05.000So the American people woke up this morning and asked the obvious question: why is the government shut down right now?
01:01:13.000The answer is pure partisan politics being played by the Democrat Party.
01:01:17.000The Democrats shut down the government because President Trump and the Republicans will not force American taxpayers to pay for free health care for illegal aliens.
01:01:27.000America is 37 trillion dollars in debt.
01:01:30.000We cannot pro afford to provide taxpayer-funded free health care to illegals who broke the law to enter our country.
01:01:37.000To put this all into perspective, the Democrats refused to keep the government open over health care to illegal aliens, and now now have jeopardized critical health care programs for American citizens instead.
01:01:49.000The Women, Infants and Children program, Community Health Center funding, Medicare treatment options, and other health programs are now all at risk because of the Democrats rejecting the clean CR.
01:02:01.000The most vulnerable in our country are being punished because the Democrats want to prioritize illegals over American citizens.
01:02:09.000And if Democrats actually cared about health care, they would applaud the actions taken by President Trump just yesterday in the Oval Office.
01:02:17.000He took a bold and massively popular action to improve our health care system.
01:02:22.000He announced the first agreement with a major pharmaceutical company, Pfizer, to lower drug costs for Americans.
01:02:29.000This is a historical achievement long sought by past Democrat presidents that only President Trump was able to get done.
01:02:37.000Also, yesterday, while the Democrats were whining about health care for illegal aliens, President Trump signed a powerful executive order to supercharge American AI innovation and unlock cures for pediatric cancer patients in the United States.
01:02:52.000While President Trump took action to lower drug prices and improve the lives and the care of American children with cancer, Again, Democrats are fighting to give health care benefits to illegal aliens.
01:03:05.000The Trump administration is fully committed to lowering health care costs and advancing policies that will save American lives.
01:03:11.000But right now, we need to keep the government open and funded.
01:03:15.000And individuals and organizations across the political spectrum, across the country agree with the Trump administration and Republicans.
01:03:23.000The labor union leader, the Teamsters, Sean O'Brien, sent a very blunt message to Democrats over their destructive antics.
01:03:30.000He said American workers are not bargaining chips.
01:03:34.000Senators need to stop screwing around and pass the House Passed Clean short-term funding bill.
01:03:39.000The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the world's largest business organization, called to immediately pass the Republican Clean CR, saying, quote, shutdowns are harmful to the economy, the American people, and our national security.
01:03:52.000And even Democrat Senators Cortez Masto and Fetterman acknowledged that their party is betraying the American people with this costly and chaotic Democrat shutdown.
01:04:11.000The American people want the government reopened, and this is proven in a new New York Times poll showing that two and three Americans say the government should not be shut down by the Democrats, even if their absurd demands are not met.
01:04:25.000The President and Republicans are working very hard to reopen the Federal Government.
01:04:29.000The Vice President here has been crucial in this effort.
01:04:32.000We encourage all Americans across the country.
01:04:34.000Call your Democrat senators and encourage them to reopen the government.
01:04:38.000That's what President Trump and the Vice President want to do.
01:04:41.000And with that, I will turn it over to our great Vice President JD Vance.
01:04:45.000Well, thank you, Carolina, and good afternoon to everybody, and good afternoon to everybody who's watching at home.
01:04:50.000It's a tough act to follow, but let me just say a few things, and then I'll take a few questions.
01:04:54.000Number one, Democrats say that they care a lot about lowering health care costs, and yet, when the president took historic action to work with the drug companies to lower prescription drug prices, the Democrats did nothing to help us.
01:05:06.000In fact, we would have loved to have the Democrats helping us, but they didn't.
01:05:11.000They don't actually do the hard work of making it happen.
01:05:14.000What they have done instead is to shut down the government because we won't give billions of dollars to health care funding for illegal aliens.
01:05:22.000To the American people who are watching, the reason your government is shut down at this very minute is because, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of congressional Republicans and even a few moderate Democrats supported opening the government, the Chuck Schumer AOC wing of the Democratic Party shut down the government because they said to us, we will open the government, but only if you give billions of dollars of funding for health care for illegal aliens.
01:05:58.000Look, when Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries were in here a couple of days ago, they made some suggestions that the president was more than happy to say, yes, let's sit down and talk about how we can solve the health care crisis that we inherited from the Biden administration.
01:06:11.000But it's one thing to say that we should solve the health care crisis for Americans.
01:06:14.000It's another thing to say that we're going to shut down the government unless we give the Democrats every single thing that they want, which, as Caroline says, includes giving billions of dollars of taxpayer funding for health care for illegal migrants.
01:06:59.000Our troops are not getting paid starting today because of the Chuck Schumer wing of the Democratic Party.
01:07:05.000We have people who require food assistance, low income Americans who require food assistance, who will not get it unless we reopen the government thanks to Chuck Schumer and his wing of the Democratic Party.
01:07:18.000We have flood insurance as we start hurricane season in the southeastern part of our country.
01:07:24.000That flood insurance is going to disappear because of Chuck Schumer and the far left of the Democratic Party.
01:08:05.000They gave us legislative text that would have undone us cutting off health care benefits for illegal aliens.
01:08:12.000That's one of the things that they asked for.
01:08:14.000But the reality here, and let's be honest about the politics, is that Chuck Schumer is terrified she's gonna get a primary challenge from Alexandria Ocasia Cortez.
01:08:23.000The reason why the American people's government is shut down is because Chuck Schumer is listening to the far left radicals in his own party because he's terrified of a primary challenge.
01:08:33.000So I'd invite Chuck Schumer to join the moderate Democrats and 52 Senate Republicans, do the right thing, open up the people's government, and then let's fix healthcare policy for the American people.
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01:09:49.000Alright, so I think JD Vance is doing a good job.
01:09:52.000I mean just a quick note on what he's doing.
01:09:55.000You know, when when the vice president comes up and handles the press briefing, you know, you know, he means business.
01:09:59.000But again, I can't get out of the fact, get get get away from the fact that this feels like a Washington bubble story, right?
01:10:05.000Like the rest of America kinda doesn't care.
01:10:07.000Especially, you know, like when they're killing us.
01:12:01.000We had that We literally had to blur this out.
01:12:03.000Yeah, like there are crossover songs, but he doesn't have any.
01:12:05.000But something that something that I want to say though is that so I I looked this up, and you know, I actually spoke to some contacts in the industry about this, and they said the way it works with these selections, and people keep as people keep coming to me and they'll say, they'll say, why is it that rock hasn't had a single act in 16 years?
01:12:23.000And so for the last at least five or six years, Jay-Z and Rock Nation, so Barack Obama's best friend Jay-Z and Rock Nation have an exclusive contract for uh the Super Bowl for the halftime show, and they actually have a ton of pull when it comes to like the Grammys and who gets to perform and things like that.
01:12:39.000So they it's it's a very deliberate corporate push.
01:12:43.000That's why you see him inserted into the Netflix Happy Gilmore 2 movie.
01:12:46.000That's why you see him pushed up at the Super Bowl halftime show.
01:12:49.000It is not because of to Andrew's point, um, it is not because the fans are are clamoring for this, it's because they're trying to open it.
01:12:57.000This is what's crazy, and because they have a deal with JJ.
01:12:59.000He doesn't even sing songs in English.
01:13:01.000He's got no songs in by the way, hi, Daisy.
01:13:48.000This is kind of like we should care because this is you know, this is what they would c say cultural colonization, right?
01:13:56.000So people would say that, oh, when America pushes cultural colonization across other countries, you know, with American movies and American film and portraying American values, this is reverse cultural colonization to America, where because we've taken in so many millions of migrants from Latin America and South America that have come up now.
01:14:16.000Now America has a market for this that is totally different from the core American population.
01:14:22.000And that's why they're trying to merge that by putting it in with the NFL, which is obviously an American institution.
01:14:28.000They're saying, Oh, well, you know, we can we can merge these all together now.
01:14:32.000And again, they're they're going for that market share.
01:14:34.000It's literally just a business move because of these massive fluctuations in our culture.
01:14:38.000I I was a big fan of uh Taylor Swift being in all these football games, and people had complained about it.
01:14:43.000And the reason the reason why it was good is Daisy was too, by the way.
01:14:46.000It was very, very good news while Daisy was also on the wrong side.
01:14:49.000Young, young women, young teenage girls would would come into the living room where their dads were watching football and say, I want to sit and watch this with you, dad.
01:14:57.000And that gave an opportunity for fathers to connect with their children and try and strengthen those bonds.
01:15:03.000A lot of people complained about it, but why do we have Taylor Swift here?
01:15:07.000You know why they're doing the bad money thing now is the kids who may start watching football are now going to get the weird trans leftist stuff injected into the football games so they can try and reverse that trend we saw from Taylor Swift.
01:15:19.000Well, and they've been doing the they've been using the NFL for social engineering all the way back to when Barack Obama was using was cutting deals with the Baltimore Ravens to push Obamacare.
01:15:27.000So they they've understood the use of the NFL and the the left has understood the use of the NFL, pop culture.
01:15:33.000Again, Netflix, the Obamas have a huge deal with Netflix on the production side, a lot of money laundering, obviously going on there.
01:15:38.000Then obviously now you got Jay-Z, who's Obama's best literal best friend and Beyonce, um, who are in charge of selection process for these halftime shows.
01:15:49.000They push the culture engineering, they push this on top of you, and people came down on me for you know talking about Taylor Swift two years ago, 100% right, by the way.
01:15:57.000And uh and now that and proven right as well, and and now they're doing the exact same thing with Bad Bunny, and I really do think that you can't you can't have that discussion without talking about these massive uh population demographic shifts in our country that are going on.
01:16:29.000So I'm watching all these films and I'm wondering why it is like they're playing songs from 30 years ago in their soundtracks because rock works in a lot of these action movies.
01:17:16.000And and and that's what they're gonna see with Get Will Go Broke when people complain about this and they're not they're they're gonna try and internationalize or whatever, but they're gonna lose American audience.
01:17:25.000But but this is the one pushback to that is to Jack's point.
01:17:28.000They've imported the international audience into our domestic audience.
01:17:32.000But when you have a popular vote winner in Donald Trump and a demand for immigration, the response is simple here.
01:20:32.000No, they've run they've run complete game.
01:20:35.000I mean, even I think we see it not in the same area, but with Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcast, that no one releases how they actually rank everything.
01:20:45.000So Spotify can say these are our most streamed artists.
01:20:47.000We don't know if they're streaming five seconds of that or the whole song.
01:20:52.000That the music in general, as soon as like Napster came along and LimeWire and all this stuff, it's just never A, it's never been the same.
01:20:57.000And B, like if you watch the Grammys, it's just a complete like it's just low class.
01:21:02.000Like music is just a real a real nader, as they say.
01:23:03.000The reason that Creed is able to have the comeback that they've had is because Creed was always legitimately authentic about their beliefs, and they never once strayed for them.
01:23:15.000Other play people were just like out there doing music or like playing like you know I mean, not to tie everything back to Charlie all the time.
01:23:23.000One of the reasons Charlie is Charlie, and one of the reasons why he's had this resonance around the world is because he was so authentically good, true, and and decent.
01:23:33.000They want authenticity and they want truth.
01:23:35.000And I actually think you were kind of making a joke, but like it's so true.
01:23:38.000It's we gotta think about the values that we pass down.
01:23:41.000And when you when the NFL makes a decision like this, they're they're not only just making a bad business decision, in my opinion, and maybe it might be a good business decision, but it's it's betraying the country.
01:23:51.000You got a choice between three dog night and bad bunny.
01:24:02.000But if the NFL is trying to hold on to their Gen Z audience, do we think Charlie would have been more or less mad if it was Taylor doing the Super Bowl or Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl?
01:25:14.000So, but we're gonna uh I just want to read a couple emails here because I see some of you are emailing us asking why we haven't been playing any bad bunny tracks because you're just like, what is what kind of music?
01:25:24.000I will tell you the answer to that is the studio.
01:25:27.000They told me that they would they refuse to play bad bunny on this show, and I'm gonna honor that.
01:26:02.000We could magnify Christ by supporting a explicitly Christian band who happens to play the greatest rock music on the face of the planet currently.