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00:02:10.000Many times and in my experience you have this like spectrum where it starts off kind of You like it, it's like, in my case, like a little close to Demi Moore and it's like sexy and then it just crosses over to disgusting and you gotta know just where to land it when you do your broadcasting.
00:02:28.000You can get to the place where you've gone too far.
00:02:31.000I think I'm living in that place right now.
00:03:41.000She's an empty vessel and people are seeing that.
00:03:43.000I mean, the one good thing that came out of that debate, other than they're eating the dogs, is the fact that she is overconfident now and is giving interviews.
00:04:39.000You could not have a friendlier audience than she had.
00:04:42.000And she dodged and weaved all their questions.
00:04:45.000And at the end she gets up, she shakes their hands, and I mean, she turned and stone cold, she ran out of there to where those three journalists are looking at each other like, What the?
00:04:59.000She doesn't have an authentic, warm, genuine bone in her body.
00:05:05.000She's all about maintaining this facade until she gets to November 5th, and then doing whatever it is her bidders tell her to do.
00:05:14.000We don't know who's actually going to be president, so I guess it won't be much different than it is right now if she wins.
00:05:20.000So, kind of piggybacking on that, we were told that the ABC News moderators would just be moderators, not fact-checkers.
00:05:28.000Interestingly, the CNN debate back in June, they did not do any fact-checking.
00:05:34.000They decided to throw that kind of, let's just say, precedent out the window.
00:05:38.000And interject in multiple cases to make Donald Trump seem as if he's lying.
00:05:43.000When Donald Trump was actually right on the crime statistics, he was right about post-term abortion.
00:05:48.000Megan, as somebody who understands the media and studies the media, when did we make that change from debate moderators regulating a discussion to actually intervening to fact-checking the substance of a debate?
00:06:02.000I mean, having anchored a bunch of these, I can tell you that my general approach was, I'm not going to fact check these guys unless they're attacking the integrity of my question.
00:06:12.000Otherwise, it's up to the other panelists to fact check the candidate.
00:06:43.000Those were not honest journalists out there putting aside the dishonesty of their so-called fact checks, which themselves were non-factual.
00:06:51.000The nerve of only doing it to one side.
00:06:55.000If you look at CNN after the debate, you had that Daniel Dale guy who hates Trump saying that he lied 33 times and she lied once that he could find.
00:07:05.000He didn't seem to count the good people on both sides or the bloodbath lie.
00:07:11.000He didn't even call her out for lying specifically on the fracking thing, though I think that's what he was referring to, claiming that her position has never changed.
00:07:20.000So it was insane to me that they didn't even bother to make themselves look good, like a fig leaf position, by offering her at least one here or there.
00:07:29.000So they're owning their bias is really what they're doing.
00:07:31.000They're trying to openly win points with the left.
00:07:33.000And I'll bet you that They haven't heard most of the criticism that they've received.
00:08:02.000I think that they heard CNN, the pushback that CNN, Dana Bash, and Tapper got, and they were like, we're not going to recreate this within the Acela corridor.
00:08:19.000Do you think that Trump should have been more Trumpian in the sense that should he have attacked the moderators as opposed to just sort of sitting there and reacting to it?
00:09:56.000And then when the moderators kept doing that, he could have said, how come you never fact checked her?
00:09:59.000You know, I came on here, notwithstanding the fact that I know you're in the tank for Kamala Harris, because I thought I'd get a fair debate.
00:10:06.000Once again, you disappoint the people at home who don't want to talk endlessly about the 2020 election.
00:10:12.000I thought we were supposed to get past that.
00:10:14.000Why don't you ask me some questions about My thoughts on immigration and what we should do about it.
00:12:12.000Yeah, I mean it was unfortunate because that's exactly and not just that but the personal insults and the attempt to demean him over and over.
00:12:21.000She tried to emasculate him which was very irritating to watch because this is the same party that lectures us and how what we really need is to unite and be kind and the other side is so toxically masculine and then she gets up there and says you're a disgrace.
00:12:38.000You're an embarrassment trying to needle him.
00:12:42.000And Trump did a better job of not responding in kind, because of course he can.
00:12:48.000She's an idiot, and he held back from actually saying that.
00:12:54.000But you could see his anger level was rising and his tone was rising and who could blame him?
00:13:00.000But that was her goal because she's trying to make him seem like, you know, this angry, nasty man to these middle American women sitting at home wondering whether they can stomach four more years of Trump.
00:13:14.000They don't love Trump like his hardcore supporters.
00:13:17.000They're trying to decide whether they can tolerate him.
00:13:20.000So she was trying to make him look kind of nasty and like not someone you'd want in your living room on your television or otherwise every night.
00:13:27.000And unfortunately he wasn't able to totally control that.
00:13:30.000It was it was effective and I will say we did discover her best skill which is memorization.
00:13:38.000I guess she could have been a Hollywood actress.
00:13:40.000I mean, sure, like look at, she can do the Latina accent and she can do that urban accent and she can do, I don't know, all of them, the Indian accent.
00:13:49.000And then she can go out there and memorize lines perfectly.
00:13:51.000So the Democrats were smart to pick her because they don't actually want somebody with their own independent thoughts.
00:13:57.000They want, I don't know, whoever's going to do what Obama wants, whoever is going to do what Jake Sullivan wants.
00:14:02.000You tell me who's actually governing right now.
00:15:47.000But my feeling was the average person sitting at home saw somebody who was somewhat emotionally unregulated, rolling her eyes, shaking her head.
00:15:56.000Remember the chin, you know, like, oh, oh, you know, she looked off-putting and she looked a little emotional, which is the last thing you really want to look when you're running to be the first female president in US history.
00:16:10.000Not to mention the personal insults, which are nasty and the average person sitting at home wouldn't like.
00:16:17.000Are men going to respond well to a woman trying over and over to emasculate a man, a man who was our president already and served honorably in that role, who then doesn't respond in kind?
00:16:29.000Like all these sort of behind-the-scenes subliminal things, I thought, were going to work against her.
00:16:36.000In the minds of people, and I think that's what the polls have reflected, that people don't like her anymore than they did going into that.
00:16:42.000Though if press, like who won, you had to pick one.
00:16:46.000Okay, I'll give it to her because on points, she threw more blows.
00:16:49.000But you still walk away saying, like in the Apollo Creed-Rocky fight, I'm on Team Rocky.
00:16:55.000I like that guy better, even though technically the other one may have won the match.
00:18:18.000She's reversed herself on everything just to win elections.
00:18:23.000I think people are getting this at a gut level when she gets out there more.
00:18:28.000Because, you know, even at the Black Journalists Association, it was like, I'm a gun owner.
00:18:33.000You know, she does her little John Wayne routine, like, I love them, their guns, and I used them when I was enforcing the southern border, when I was a border state AG.
00:18:50.000And then I have yet to hear somebody say, what about your proposed buyback program, your mandatory buyback program?
00:18:59.000And what about your statement that you think you have a right to go into private citizens' homes to make sure they're complying with your law in California, that they lock up their guns, that you think Again, John Wayne style, you can unleash that on the citizenry and just walk in over dinner and take a look at their gun cabinet.
00:19:19.000Who's going to ask her these questions?
00:19:24.000At that NABJ, the one reporter from the Griot decided to ask her, What do you feel joy about?
00:19:33.000Instead of anything I just listed, I can't with this press corps.
00:19:37.000The Politico guy, Politico, which is constantly lecturing us about good journalism and what hard politics looks like, they decide to waste their questioning on whether Just how racist has Trump been with respect to the Springfield migration issue?
00:19:55.000Is this just naked racism or is a federal response warranted here?
00:20:22.000You know, we, and I love how you bring such an insight on the journalistic aspect of this and the press corps' role in so much of this, and we are going to get to what is a woman, but had the shoe been on the other foot, and I know they don't like it when we do whataboutism and all this stuff, but Trump has just nearly been assassinated twice.
00:20:42.000And the press has, in this galling manner, been blaming Trump.
00:20:47.000You brought up Springfield for his language that he's used about Haitian immigrants or whatever.
00:20:53.000What would have happened had the shoe been on the other foot?
00:20:56.000And my premise is that the First Amendment would just be completely obliterated already.
00:21:01.000I mean, the press would be calling on social media sites to be completely shut down.
00:22:00.000Well, I have eyes, and I know what a chicken looks like, and I know what a cat looks like.
00:22:05.000And I'm sorry to say, I agree with Chris Ruffo.
00:22:07.000There were two skinned cats on a barbecue, a stone's throw away from Springfield, and in a house owned by immigrants or rented by immigrants, though not from Haiti, from the Congo.
00:22:23.000The media is working so hard to debunk each one of them, and some have fallen apart, and some are unverifiable, and some could be true because they have not yet been debunked or verified either way.
00:22:34.000I just think the whole thing is so hilarious because Trump has got us talking about migration in Springfield, Ohio, in a way we weren't before, and it's driving the media insane.
00:22:46.000Babylon Bee nailed it when they summed it up saying, like, media rushes to say no animals are being eaten in, or no animals are being killed in Springfield, Ohio, just women and children.
00:22:59.000An 11-year-old boy was killed by Haitian migrants, one of whom drove into his school bus and 20 kids were hurt.
00:23:05.000And a woman's mother-in-law, elderly mother-in-law was killed by another Haitian migrant.
00:23:10.000They're giving them driver's licenses and they can't drive.
00:23:12.000You heard the people complain about what's happening on their front lawns with mattresses and they're threatening and they can't walk outside.
00:23:18.000And the grocery stores, how people are opening up the cans of food and sticking their hands in and then throwing the spaghetti sauce on the floor of the grocery.
00:23:23.000I'm sure it's Shangri-La, Washington Post.
00:25:58.000Two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again.
00:26:04.000And you're here at the podium in the White House briefing room calling him a threat.
00:26:08.000President Biden has been clear-eyed about the threat that the former president represents to our democracy.
00:26:16.000How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat?
00:26:28.000Peter, if anything from this administration, I actually completely disagree with the premise of your question, the question that you're asking.
00:26:40.000It is also incredibly dangerous in the way that you're asking it.
00:26:44.000And now for you to make that kind of comment in your question, because your question involved a comment and a statement.
00:26:57.000You know, it is, uh, that is also incredibly dangerous.
00:27:22.000That's why she's there and she's an empty vessel and she says empty things that mean nothing and tried to turn this around.
00:27:26.000I mean, it doesn't even make sense what she's saying.
00:27:28.000It's dangerous for him to say what they're saying is dangerous?
00:27:31.000That makes absolutely no logical sense.
00:27:35.000The double standard on language that is enforced by this White House, top Democrats, and the media has never been more glaring.
00:27:45.000You know, Charlie Cook had a piece up the other day about how they blamed the Paul Pelosi attack on rhetoric from Republicans back in 2010.
00:27:58.000So some 13 years later, Republican comments caused this guy to get attacked by this insane lunatic out in San Francisco.
00:28:06.000But the ubiquitous comments by Democrats and their media enablers and Hollywood celebrities who support them, You know, from Madonna outside saying she wanted to bomb the White House, to Johnny Depp and what he said, to Kathy Griffin with the severed Trump head.
00:28:23.000I mean, we could be here all day if we relived it.
00:28:26.000That had nothing to do with influencing either one of these shooters, especially the latest shooter, who actually was retweeting the exact language of Kamala Harris, that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.
00:28:37.000You can easily go out there and say, Donald Trump has a controversial or bad temperament.
00:28:42.000I'm sick of talking about Donald Trump, and if we reelect him, he's going to be in my living room every night, as I said, and I don't want that.
00:29:22.000This week, post-second assassination attempt, you had MSNBC with a guest comparing him to Mussolini and Hitler.
00:29:31.000Hillary Clinton went on there and doubled down just two nights ago about what a deep and dangerous threat he is to the country, saying he unleashed the worst threat on our democracy since the Civil War.
00:29:47.000All because of an election protest that he launched that looked very much like the protests they had launched, including Hillary Clinton, multiple times before.
00:29:59.000And so this really is unlike what the Republicans have said in the past about the Democrats.
00:30:05.000There is just no way of tying What Republicans have said about Democrats are about issues to the prior violence we've seen in this country.
00:30:15.000And this has gotten so bad, there's no way of denying the Democrats rhetoric likely played a role in influencing one or both of these shooters.
00:30:27.000I think that the failure of Our side to force the issue on the trans issue, what is a woman, the medical mutilation of our children would be political malpractice.
00:30:38.000I think that we need to start to flush this out and get them to explain to the American people why they think it's okay for a 14-year-old to go under gender reassignment surgery, especially in the J.D.
00:31:25.000Thank God Trump at least did make reference to her ACLU questionnaire or Kamala's ACLU questionnaire from 2019 in which she did openly back taxpayer-funded sex change procedures and operations for both Prisoners and illegal immigrants in this country.
00:33:23.000I argued in front of federal appellate courts across this country.
00:33:27.000I know how to read and interpret the law.
00:33:29.000And not only did I read and interpret this one, I then took the time to call up lawmakers and family law attorneys and experts in Minnesota to make sure that what I was reading and seeing was correct.
00:33:44.000And I am 100% correct that he has made Minnesota a trans refuge for children trying to get these sex change procedures and operations Who don't have parents who will, quote, affirm them.
00:33:59.000Minor children who aren't allowed to smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, drive cars, or vote are being allowed to flee to Minnesota to be taken into the custody of the Minnesota court system and chop off their body parts because they find some sympathetic judge who says their loving parents don't get to decide for them anymore.