The Charlie Kirk Show - June 27, 2023


The Six Million-Person Slave Trade with Kurt Schlichter and Tim Ballard


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Kurt Schlichter joins us on the Charlie Kirk Show to discuss his new book, Joe Biden: My Life on the Line, and why he thinks it s time to impeach Joe Biden. Plus, we play a piece of audio from an alleged phone call between Joe Biden and his business partner.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tan Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Kurt Schlichter joins the program.
00:00:04.000 We also have Tim Ballard.
00:00:06.000 Very important conversation about child sex trafficking.
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00:01:11.000 Welcome back, everybody.
00:01:12.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:01:14.000 There's a lot happening, and so I like having smart people come on and we can kind of just riff and see where the conversation takes us.
00:01:20.000 Kurt Schlichter is with us.
00:01:22.000 He is the author of several books.
00:01:24.000 We'll have him plug those throughout our conversation as senior columnist at townhall.com.
00:01:29.000 Kurt, thank you for joining the show.
00:01:32.000 So let's just start with the big picture.
00:01:34.000 Do you think that there might be a regime change push to get rid of Joe Biden?
00:01:39.000 Are you seeing in the whispers and the wind, the vibrations in your home state of California that Gavin Newsom might be wanting to come in here?
00:01:47.000 Or is Joe Biden, you think, going to survive this one?
00:01:49.000 Kurt Schlichter.
00:01:50.000 Look, Gavin Newsom is lurking on the sideline, waiting to see any hint of weakness.
00:01:56.000 And there's a lot of hints of weak.
00:01:58.000 My feeling is that the Democrats believe that Joe Biden can beat Donald Trump.
00:02:03.000 So if we nominate Trump, Biden won't go anywhere.
00:02:09.000 If we don't nominate Donald Trump, I think Biden's days as president are numbered.
00:02:15.000 And I think it will be my governor, Governor Hairstyle, trying to slide on in ahead of Camelot, which will be a nice fight.
00:02:27.000 I'd like to see that octagon.
00:02:29.000 Yeah, so if there's a switch afoot, we will start.
00:02:34.000 The timeline is running out in that way.
00:02:37.000 Joe Biden is facing some serious concerns from these recent text messages.
00:02:43.000 Do you think it's time to impeach Joe Biden?
00:02:45.000 Is there any counter argument to that, Kurt?
00:02:47.000 I mean, you're a lawyer used to arguing both sides.
00:02:50.000 Do you think it's a good idea, or do you think that we could get a little too ahead of ourselves, too excited, and end up making him the victim and making it look too political?
00:02:58.000 Well, look, I think that's a huge possibility because you'll have the regime media out there cheerleading for his bribery and corruption.
00:03:07.000 You've got to understand that this is not the elite media cultural environment that we had, say, 50 years ago, where everyone was kind of agreed that corruption is bad.
00:03:21.000 Right now, our ruling class thinks, yeah, corruption is bad, I guess.
00:03:26.000 But you know what's worse?
00:03:27.000 Mean tweet.
00:03:29.000 And they are literally willing to overlook manifest corruption in order to keep a Republican out.
00:03:38.000 And we've got to understand, it's not the same world that, you know, I'm older than you, that I grew up.
00:03:44.000 It's an entirely different one where there really are no firm rules.
00:03:52.000 They are fine with his corruption as long as they maintain power.
00:03:57.000 Yeah, that certainly seems to be that way.
00:03:59.000 And so I want to play a piece of tape here and get your reaction, Kurt.
00:04:03.000 Let's go to cut four, Peter Schweiser play cut four.
00:04:07.000 Breaking news on a cell phone that Joe Biden was using.
00:04:11.000 Tell us about that.
00:04:12.000 It's interesting.
00:04:13.000 What is the line of communications between Hunter Biden and his business partners and Joe Biden when he's vice president of the United States?
00:04:19.000 It's not the government phone.
00:04:21.000 It's not Joe Biden's personal phone.
00:04:23.000 We know from the laptop that Hunter Biden's business paid for a private phone line that Joe Biden used while he was vice president.
00:04:32.000 It was from AT ⁇ T.
00:04:34.000 It was $300 a month.
00:04:36.000 It was a global phone where you could access somebody anywhere around the world.
00:04:40.000 And that may be the phone, for example, that the Ukrainian, the Burisma executive might have used in this allegation that he talked to Joe Biden in recorded conversations.
00:04:52.000 So this is heating up, Kurt.
00:04:55.000 Yes.
00:04:55.000 Is this in a general election?
00:04:59.000 How does he possibly navigate this?
00:05:01.000 Are they just in a place where they truly do not care and they're just going to push forward with the machine they've built in Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, et cetera?
00:05:09.000 No, they're going to push forward.
00:05:11.000 They don't care.
00:05:13.000 Their response to, you know, hey, here's a giant evidence, you know, pile of evidence showing manifest corruption is, well, you Republicans are going to keep us from aborting our babies and be mean to trans.
00:05:27.000 That's what they're going to do.
00:05:29.000 Charlie, they don't care. 0.97
00:05:31.000 It's okay if he's corrupt.
00:05:33.000 They prefer that to losing power. 0.86
00:05:37.000 Yeah, they have religious attachment to these issues, especially the gay issue and the abortion issue.
00:05:43.000 So they're willing to cover up any form of corruption or just swallow it for those particular issues.
00:05:49.000 So Kurt, I know that you, I'm reading some of your Twitter commentary and some of your columns.
00:05:54.000 I know that you haven't endorsed anybody yet, but you have some concerns about if President Trump is the nominee.
00:06:02.000 I personally am behind Donald Trump, but please feel free to speak openly, Kurt, to our audience of where you're leaning and the prospects of winning, because I know that winning is the most important thing for you.
00:06:13.000 What are your thoughts on who you think we should nominate?
00:06:16.000 Well, first of all, I think it's important that we have a real primary where we discuss real issues.
00:06:22.000 And I have very many close friends who can articulate very good arguments in favor of Donald Trump.
00:06:28.000 My 100% key issue is electability.
00:06:34.000 I think Donald Trump has very, very, very tough roads to owe to winning in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, et cetera.
00:06:45.000 And electability is my key issue.
00:06:50.000 I'm not endorsing anybody.
00:06:52.000 I don't think anybody needs some funding coming around telling them what to do.
00:06:55.000 I'm just sharing my thought process.
00:06:57.000 And my thought process is we should nominate somebody who is likely to win the general.
00:07:03.000 I think Donald Trump's going to have difficulty in the general.
00:07:06.000 And I like Trump a lot.
00:07:09.000 So if, so elaborate on that, though, Kurt.
00:07:12.000 So likely difficulty, why?
00:07:15.000 And what other candidate do you think might have a higher likelihood?
00:07:18.000 Well, we saw huge difficulties in 2020 and in 2022.
00:07:23.000 Pennsylvania is moving bluer.
00:07:25.000 Michigan is moving bluer.
00:07:27.000 Georgia voters have not only rejected Donald Trump, but they've rejected his candidate.
00:07:32.000 Now, I don't have to like that.
00:07:34.000 I don't have to agree with that.
00:07:35.000 I would love to have had Senator Herschel Walker.
00:07:38.000 I think he'd make a great addition to Congress.
00:07:41.000 But I'm not a Georgia voter.
00:07:42.000 And the Georgia voters are going to do what the Georgia voters are going to do.
00:07:46.000 The Arizona voters have shown that they don't really care for Donald Trump or people Donald Trump select.
00:07:54.000 Again, is it right or wrong?
00:07:56.000 That's not the issue.
00:07:57.000 This isn't personal.
00:07:58.000 This is only business.
00:08:00.000 I'm out to win.
00:08:02.000 And my argument is find the guy who's most likely to win.
00:08:06.000 Now, the obvious second choice is Ron DeSantis.
00:08:11.000 I think some polling has shown that Ron DeSantis has a chance to win back some voters who I think wrongly are alienated from Donald Trump.
00:08:19.000 And again, I will vote for Donald Trump in the general happily.
00:08:24.000 And if you came to me and said right now, Kurt, I will.
00:08:28.000 You can absolutely have Donald Trump as the winner in the next general election.
00:08:33.000 I would take that bet in heart.
00:08:35.000 Yes.
00:08:37.000 But the fact is, there are a bunch of people out there who will never vote for Donald Trump.
00:08:42.000 And you're not going to talk him out of it.
00:08:44.000 And is it right or wrong?
00:08:46.000 Doesn't matter.
00:08:47.000 It's the facts on the ground.
00:08:49.000 And I'm looking at it like an Army guy.
00:08:50.000 I'm looking at it like a lawyer.
00:08:52.000 I have to deal with the facts that are presented.
00:08:55.000 And right now, I think Donald Trump has a very, very, not impossible, but a very tough road to winning reelection in 2024.
00:09:04.000 Right now, there's a poll, Kurt.
00:09:05.000 I want you to comment on it: that 74% of the country thinks we are on the wrong track.
00:09:10.000 If we can't win in this climate, Kurt, we can't win ever.
00:09:13.000 I mean, basically, the whole country agrees we're headed to hell and quickly.
00:09:18.000 What the hell are the other 26% smoking? 0.99
00:09:22.000 I don't understand anybody who thinks we're on the right track right now.
00:09:27.000 The problem, the challenge for Donald Trump is some people hate him irrationally.
00:09:33.000 And a rational person is going to vote Joe Biden out and bring somebody like Donald Trump in, who has a terrific record as president.
00:09:44.000 Not perfect, but terrific.
00:09:46.000 And I would take him again in a heartbeat.
00:09:50.000 But people are not rational actors all the time.
00:09:53.000 My concern is we have to win.
00:09:57.000 So my criteria is 100%.
00:09:59.000 Who do I think is more likely to win?
00:10:01.000 Right now, I think Donald Trump is less likely to win than some other candidate.
00:10:05.000 That's just my assessment.
00:10:07.000 That's what I think.
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00:10:49.000 The question is: how do we win in 2024?
00:10:52.000 Let's play some tape here.
00:10:54.000 Play cut nine.
00:10:56.000 Just 20% of voters believe this country is heading in the right direction.
00:10:59.000 74% say the nation is on the wrong track.
00:11:02.000 Let me tell you something about this moment.
00:11:04.000 We have had this sustained period of 70% about a year now.
00:11:08.000 The last two periods in the history of this poll that we've had this kind of sustained negativity about the direction of the country was before the 92 election and before the 2008 election.
00:11:16.000 Both of those changed the party controlling the White House.
00:11:21.000 It looks like, Kurt, we're building towards a wave election.
00:11:23.000 Will we be able to get our pieces together to actually see that materialize?
00:11:27.000 Well, that's a great question, Charlie, and I'm very, very concerned about it.
00:11:32.000 You know, I'm a retired colonel and I understand that amateurs talk tactics, but professionals nail down their logistics first.
00:11:41.000 I want to know what's going on with building ground games in those battleground states we talked about.
00:11:46.000 I want to know what's going on with getting the legal fight underway to shape that battle space months before the election.
00:11:54.000 I remember when I rolled into Nevada the night after the 2020 election to help lawyer at the request of Rick Rinnell, there was one RNC lawyer on hand, one.
00:12:05.000 That's not enough.
00:12:06.000 I want to see an infrastructure on the ground to support whoever the people of our party nominate, because I know I'm going to back whoever we nominate 110%.
00:12:18.000 But you can't win if you don't have an infrastructure in place that turns out votes, that energizes voters, that handles the legal aspects, that handles the money aspect.
00:12:29.000 That's what I'm worried about now.
00:12:31.000 Whether Donald Trump can handle the expressing his ideas.
00:12:35.000 Marl DeSantis can handle expressing his ideas.
00:12:38.000 Some of the other candidates can do that too.
00:12:41.000 Some of them probably can't.
00:12:44.000 I'm not worried about that.
00:12:45.000 And I'm not worried about our ideas.
00:12:47.000 I'm worried about putting those ideas into effect by having a strong logistic base and administrative framework set up to maximize our voting power fairly and legally.
00:13:02.000 Kurt, are you seeing any evidence that those investments are happening or any confidence that we can go up against the $1.8 billion the Democrats plan to spend on ballot chasing, signature verification, early voting?
00:13:15.000 Are you seeing those kind of investments?
00:13:17.000 I'm not.
00:13:18.000 And that works.
00:13:20.000 I think some of it's happening, but I don't know.
00:13:23.000 I would love to see Rona McDaniel and the RNC come out and reassure us with a specific plan.
00:13:30.000 Whenever I hear from her, it's always cliches and policy.
00:13:34.000 I don't care what she thinks about policy, not electing her anything.
00:13:37.000 Okay.
00:13:38.000 I want to know how many lawyers are you going to have in Milwaukee?
00:13:43.000 And when are they going to be there and who's in charge and what do they have to back them up?
00:13:48.000 How many door knockers do you have in Georgia?
00:13:54.000 Those are the kind of questions I want answered.
00:13:56.000 And I don't see it's so easy.
00:13:58.000 You know, Charlie, when I was commanding American Soldiers, I made sure they knew what was going on.
00:14:05.000 They knew where my mind was at.
00:14:09.000 So they knew what I was going to do so they could have confidence in their leaders.
00:14:13.000 And you know what?
00:14:14.000 It worked.
00:14:15.000 If you trust the Republican base with the knowledge and information about our strategy, they're going to come through for you.
00:14:24.000 But you got to do it.
00:14:25.000 There's no more, no more smoke-filled rooms.
00:14:29.000 No more, well, you know, we don't have to tell anybody.
00:14:32.000 No more blowing off guys like Scott President.
00:14:35.000 You need to reach out to the base and energize us.
00:14:39.000 We're asking for it.
00:14:40.000 It's right there.
00:14:41.000 All we got to do is take it.
00:14:43.000 It's a question of where is the money being spent.
00:14:46.000 And right now, the money is being spent on an unbelievably expensive primary with well over a dozen candidates now running, and it's going to be $1 billion spent.
00:14:57.000 Makes you wonder, is that the best investment?
00:14:59.000 Kurt, we're out of time.
00:15:00.000 Thank you so much.
00:15:01.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:15:06.000 Are you feeling burned out and a little tired?
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00:15:39.000 Well, try to take a note here.
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00:17:59.000 Okay, a very important topic that we've touched on before in this program, but not enough.
00:18:04.000 And it's something that I really want to dive into is child sex trafficking.
00:18:08.000 And it is getting more and more attention, praise God, not from the left.
00:18:12.000 They don't care.
00:18:13.000 Wonder why.
00:18:14.000 But Tim Ballard, who runs Operation Underground Railroad, is with us.
00:18:20.000 The website, if you want to check it out, is ourrescue.org.
00:18:25.000 Tim, welcome to the program.
00:18:27.000 Tell us about the effort that you are leading.
00:18:29.000 Thanks so much, Charlie.
00:18:30.000 Yeah, like you said, this is a major problem.
00:18:32.000 This is the fastest growing criminal enterprise in the world.
00:18:35.000 Millions of children.
00:18:37.000 Department of Labor has it at 6 million.
00:18:40.000 Sex trafficking, labor trafficking, organ harvesting, even.
00:18:43.000 So I run actually two organizations.
00:18:46.000 I run the Nazarene Fund.
00:18:47.000 I'm the CEO there.
00:18:48.000 Glenn Beck founded that.
00:18:49.000 He sits on the board.
00:18:50.000 And we do anti-trafficking work mostly in the Middle East and in Africa.
00:18:55.000 And then I founded Operation Underground Railroad, and we're all over the world working with law enforcement, extracting children, getting them restored, and trying to raise awareness as to how big this problem really is.
00:19:06.000 And now the United States, what's complicit?
00:19:09.000 We are right dead in the middle, in the middle of it.
00:19:12.000 So 6 million kids, that's a huge number.
00:19:15.000 Please build that out, elaborate that more.
00:19:18.000 Yeah, so if you break down the numbers, there's about 27 million people in total.
00:19:22.000 That's according to most credible sources in slavery.
00:19:26.000 That's men, women, and children.
00:19:27.000 And the kids, that's conservative at 6 million.
00:19:30.000 That's Department of Labor, state.
00:19:33.000 And they are broken up into three categories, which is labor, which is the biggest one, sex trafficking, and then organ harvesting.
00:19:41.000 It's 2 million specific designated for sex trafficking.
00:19:46.000 And, you know, the United States, I'm so tired of people, you know, saying that that's a problem that is far, far away when, in fact, we are the number one demand.
00:19:55.000 We are the consumers.
00:19:56.000 We consume more child exploitation material than any other nation on the planet.
00:20:01.000 And then, of course, I spent 10 years on the southern border as a special agent undercover operator for the Department of Homeland Security.
00:20:07.000 And I'm watching the border and watching our policies or Biden's policies are really just complicit completely facilitating child trafficking at our southern border.
00:20:19.000 So the website is ourrescue.org.
00:20:22.000 So if you could build out just kind of an example of what those numbers are overwhelming, but tell us a story of something that is typical, not atypical, of an age, a behavior that is forced, movements, or who's doing this.
00:20:37.000 I mean, I'll just spout it out.
00:20:39.000 For example, a 45-year-old gang member in Houston who moves 10 girls from point A to point B, forces them to have sex with older. 0.97
00:20:49.000 I'm just spinning off.
00:20:50.000 Could you give us what is the typical thing you encounter?
00:20:53.000 Because there's a lot of our audience sometimes gets confused by the abstraction.
00:20:57.000 Give us what is the most typical story that you run into.
00:21:01.000 Well, man, human trafficking has different faces in different places.
00:21:05.000 And, you know, one story that comes to mind is, and this should hit home for all of us, a girl that we helped several years ago.
00:21:15.000 She had been kidnapped, groomed in Mexico.
00:21:18.000 I think she was 12 or 13 years old.
00:21:20.000 And she was brought across the southern border where there was no barriers, was no enforcement.
00:21:26.000 And she was taken, picked up in a van, driven to New York City.
00:21:30.000 In New York City, she was there between, I want to say, 14 years old all the way until she was like 16 and finally was able to be rescued.
00:21:40.000 But she was raped. 0.56
00:21:41.000 This is the sick part and unbelievable. 0.64
00:21:43.000 So she's taken in, and she is within a 24-hour cycle, she's sold about 10 to 15 times, just picked up, taken to this hotel, that hotel, this bar, that person's house.
00:21:54.000 And it's all planned, her days planned out.
00:21:57.000 And then she comes home and sleeps a few hours and goes out again.
00:21:59.000 This is happening all over the United States.
00:22:02.000 And so many of these kids are brought across our southern border. 0.99
00:22:07.000 So the most typical thing you see then is female prostitution ages 14 to 16.
00:22:15.000 Is there any law enforcement that, I'm sure there is, but do you think the government is doing all they can?
00:22:25.000 Do you think the government is doing all they can to stop that horrific practice?
00:22:25.000 Let me rephrase that.
00:22:30.000 No, no, not at all.
00:22:32.000 I mean, in the United States, there's about five anti-drug agents for every one anti-child trafficking agent.
00:22:39.000 And it's really because it's not been a priority.
00:22:41.000 The people haven't yelled loud enough about it.
00:22:47.000 You know, what we're doing at our, like I said, the policies on the southern border, if we enforce it and build it out and build out the enforcement, you're going to rescue more kids.
00:22:54.000 It's just, it's two plus two equals four.
00:22:56.000 You're going to put the kids are going to have a chance to be rescued right in that place where they can be rescued.
00:23:01.000 Their final hope before they get put into one of the biggest sex markets in the world, the United States, is at this port of entry.
00:23:08.000 So we need to control that piece of it.
00:23:10.000 And then, you know, it's really transnational.
00:23:12.000 We do most of our, a lot of our work is overseas.
00:23:15.000 You know, kids are being sold on the beaches.
00:23:16.000 They're being sold in bars.
00:23:18.000 And the age goes down, by the way.
00:23:20.000 Like the average age in the U.S. is about 14.
00:23:22.000 But you go to Mexico, you go to other places.
00:23:24.000 Actually, you go to Hawaii.
00:23:25.000 We're working in Hawaii.
00:23:26.000 The ages are closer to 12, 11, 10 years old that they're being inducted into human trafficking rings.
00:23:34.000 So this brings up to the upcoming, this brings us to the upcoming film, Sound of Freedom.
00:23:38.000 I've been hearing about this film non-stop.
00:23:40.000 They do a great job.
00:23:41.000 Play cut 26, please.
00:24:04.000 I don't think I can do this job, Tim.
00:24:07.000 As soon as I lay down, only see other kids' faces.
00:24:15.000 How long have you been doing this?
00:24:17.000 12 years?
00:24:18.000 How do you do it?
00:24:22.000 It is the fastest-growing international crime network that the world has ever seen.
00:24:27.000 It has already passed the illegal arms trade, and soon it's going to pass the drug trade.
00:24:33.000 What if this was your daughter?
00:24:35.000 Wherever I go, I'll find my way home.
00:24:44.000 So the film is coming out on July 4th.
00:24:48.000 So just tell us about your perspective on this film.
00:24:51.000 I see it kind of being publicized everywhere.
00:24:54.000 It's really exciting to see this kind of momentum to expose this horrific and demonic evil.
00:25:01.000 So Tim, thoughts on the film, how it ties into what you're doing.
00:25:04.000 So the film, so I'm the subject of the film.
00:25:07.000 Jim Caviso plays me, and it tells the story of how I went from being a government agent and why I quit.
00:25:13.000 It starts in the southern border where we rescue this kid, and then we do a look for his sister, and the film takes you in.
00:25:19.000 We go into Cartagena, Colombia, where we did, we pulled off one of the largest trafficking busts ever.
00:25:26.000 Over 120 women and children were rescued, but it required me leaving my job.
00:25:31.000 It required me because the U.S. government was telling me, come home.
00:25:34.000 You know, we don't have a business there.
00:25:36.000 And so it's kind of, it's a thriller.
00:25:38.000 It's about finding children in the U.S., into Colombia and other places.
00:25:45.000 But it's based on a true story.
00:25:46.000 And all the bad guys are real.
00:25:48.000 The kids are real.
00:25:49.000 And it really explains what this is.
00:25:51.000 But it does it in a way that I think is digestible.
00:25:54.000 The filmmakers are just incredible.
00:25:56.000 Angel Studios is putting it out.
00:25:58.000 And we want people to go to angel.com forward slash freedom and buy tickets and make sure you're there.
00:26:04.000 We want 2 million people in the theaters on the week of July 4th representing the 2 million children who are designated and currently in the commercial sex trade.
00:26:14.000 So I also want to just tie two ends together.
00:26:18.000 If someone is regularly viewing even legal pornography, they very well might be unintentionally contributing to a demand that keeps this beast going.
00:26:29.000 Can you comment on that?
00:26:30.000 Even if it's not quote-unquote child pornography, but girls get older and they usually are sourced from these networks.
00:26:37.000 Please comment on that.
00:26:39.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:26:40.000 Absolutely. 0.90
00:26:40.000 I mean, pornography creates sex addiction. 0.90
00:26:42.000 Sex addiction creates the demand.
00:26:43.000 I mean, there's a reason why the United States is the number one consumer of child exploitation material, also the number one consumer of pornography.
00:26:50.000 And like you said, Charlie, it's absolutely true.
00:26:52.000 Who are the women that you see in these videos?
00:26:54.000 You think they're happy? 1.00
00:26:55.000 You think they want to be there?
00:26:57.000 Likely not the case.
00:26:58.000 Rarely the case.
00:26:59.000 These are people who likely have been trafficked, have been exploited throughout their lives, and this is the world they know.
00:27:04.000 And so absolutely, every time you're looking at this and becoming addicted to it, you are generating the demand and you are creating pain in people's lives.
00:27:12.000 Yeah, I don't think people always understand that.
00:27:15.000 Can you just, you know, the example you gave is horrific and terrible, but from what I understand, some of the things I've heard is that some of this can happen in some of the most upper-middle-class neighborhoods, Highland Park, Texas, Wilmette, Illinois, Cherry Creek, Colorado.
00:27:35.000 Is it true that there is human trafficking, child sex trafficking that sometimes occurs with CEOs, with Titans of business?
00:27:45.000 Or is that not totally correct?
00:27:48.000 One minute remaining, Tim.
00:27:50.000 No, it is correct.
00:27:52.000 There's something called the Romeo Trafficker.
00:27:55.000 And these are kids, they're in good homes.
00:27:57.000 They're affluent homes. 0.99
00:27:58.000 But they have a boyfriend who takes a sex picture of them, sex video. 0.72
00:28:01.000 They break up.
00:28:01.000 He puts it on and uses basically to exploit her, to extort her and says, look, you better be putting on shows for me or make money.
00:28:09.000 I want to set up an OnlyFans site.
00:28:12.000 We're seeing this more and more where sextortion, we call it.
00:28:17.000 And it is human trafficking and it's child exploitation.
00:28:20.000 And these kids are living in their homes.
00:28:21.000 They're having dinner every night with their parents, but they're living with the hell. 0.99
00:28:24.000 They want to kill themselves and they think their lives are over because they got to put on this sex show or else they will be exposed and the video will be shown to their church congregation, to their mom, to their grandma.
00:28:34.000 And that's a threat that young girls can't usually deal with emotionally.
00:28:40.000 And it's very sad, and we need to talk more about it.
00:28:43.000 It makes you think and wonder how much of that awful website, OnlyFans, are girls that have been trafficked and pimps are getting a percentage of that revenue.
00:28:55.000 I have no idea.
00:28:55.000 It just makes you think.
00:28:56.000 Tim, stay right there.
00:28:58.000 Angel.com.
00:28:59.000 What a great URL.
00:29:00.000 Film is coming out July 4th.
00:29:02.000 It's about you.
00:29:03.000 So congratulations.
00:29:04.000 There are three types of people: there are children, there are predators, and the protectors of children.
00:29:10.000 When you no longer are a child, you can either be a predator or you could be a protector of a child.
00:29:16.000 That is the question.
00:29:18.000 So, Tim, can you talk about the role that social media plays?
00:29:21.000 The landscape has changed, and I think people like you are getting us caught up.
00:29:25.000 The bad guys, the predators, the cartels, the freaks, the pedophiles, they have used social media far, very aggressively to source and find young girls and children.
00:29:37.000 And I'm sure it plays a big role in this.
00:29:40.000 And finally, you are catching up to be able to intercept that.
00:29:45.000 We know that the Instagram algorithm connects vast networks of pedophiles.
00:29:49.000 Maybe Instagram should be more concerned about that than right-wing extremism on their platform.
00:29:54.000 Tim Ballard, your thoughts?
00:29:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:57.000 Look, we have to find the access points. 0.53
00:29:59.000 There's access points all around where pedophiles access kids.
00:30:02.000 Now, if you're my age or older, you didn't have to deal with that.
00:30:08.000 And so, you know, our access points were playgrounds, you know, parks, that kind of thing where they could access us.
00:30:15.000 And so parents my age and older, we are confused.
00:30:18.000 There's a generational gap, an educational gap, and kids are left exposed, and no one's teaching them what the access points are today.
00:30:25.000 It's social media, like you just said.
00:30:27.000 And to find out that big tech is not doing what they could be doing or should be doing to protect kids, in fact, they're allowing their algorithms to be utilized in a way that's benefiting this black market. 0.67
00:30:39.000 I mean, it's $150 billion a year business.
00:30:41.000 This is huge.
00:30:42.000 So they have to find those market platforms, and social media is the number one.
00:30:47.000 I executive produced a documentary that just came out.
00:30:50.000 It's on Amazon Prime.
00:30:51.000 It's called It's Happening Right Here.
00:30:52.000 And we dive deep into all the things, all the access points here in the United States that are utilized for predators to get a hold of our children.
00:31:02.000 So we've been focusing on young women.
00:31:07.000 Talk about boys. 0.72
00:31:08.000 I mean, there was a graphic story in Georgia of a gay couple who adopted two young boys and sodomized them.
00:31:15.000 I'm just going to, I'm not going to go to the details. 0.95
00:31:17.000 It's disgusting, but it's necessary to mention. 0.99
00:31:21.000 Are boys increasingly in demand with these freaks and these pedophiles in the black market of child sex trafficking? 0.99
00:31:28.000 Absolutely, they are, and it's underreported. 0.99
00:31:32.000 And absolutely.
00:31:33.000 I mean, there's a big push for that.
00:31:35.000 There's a group, you've heard of probably Nambla, the North American Man, Boy, Love Association.
00:31:39.000 They've been pushing this agenda for quite some time.
00:31:41.000 I did an operation last year that was enormous.
00:31:45.000 It started in Ukraine, blew through six countries, three continents, ended in Ecuador. 0.92
00:31:50.000 It was a Dutch pedophile group. 0.99
00:31:51.000 They were trying to legalize sex with children. 0.99
00:31:53.000 They got caught.
00:31:54.000 They got arrested and they were fugitives.
00:31:56.000 And they were trying to find Ukrainian kids who were war victims.
00:31:59.000 It led us in July of last year to a little boutique hotel in a little village called Kanoa, Ecuador.
00:32:06.000 And these guys had little boys, 10 years old and younger.
00:32:10.000 And they were bringing them in, luring them in, grooming them. 0.99
00:32:13.000 And they were advertising to their pedophile networks, come here, come enjoy a weekend and have all the sex with boys 10 years old and younger that you want. 0.95
00:32:22.000 Fortunately, we were able to track them down and end them and dismantle them completely.
00:32:26.000 They just got convicted actually three days ago.
00:32:29.000 So we see these cases often.
00:32:31.000 Little boys are everybody is vulnerable, and that's something else we need to wake up to protect our young boys as well.
00:32:38.000 So in closing here, Tim, have you seen any noticeable change of federal law enforcement towards this?
00:32:44.000 Was it better under Trump?
00:32:45.000 Is it better under Biden?
00:32:46.000 I'm not leading the questioner.
00:32:48.000 I'm genuinely curious, or has it gotten worse in recent years?
00:32:52.000 Well, look, we work closely with all the agencies, and I think they continue at their same passion level.
00:32:58.000 And they're trying to do what they can with the resources they're given.
00:33:00.000 Absolutely, under Trump, Lovemorrow or Hayden, it doesn't matter that he deployed $300 million to fight human trafficking.
00:33:07.000 He built a barrier and border enforcement and walls for one reason to protect children.
00:33:14.000 He appointed me.
00:33:15.000 I was actually the co-chair of the White House Council to end human trafficking.
00:33:19.000 So I know very well what was going on.
00:33:21.000 And probably there's been no administration in my lifetime that has been doing more for that.
00:33:28.000 He talked about it quite a bit.
00:33:29.000 Ivanka was actually a major push behind that.
00:33:32.000 So it's unfortunate that we see this administration.
00:33:35.000 I hardly hear them talk about it.
00:33:36.000 Again, I'm not talking about the agencies or the agents on the ground, my colleagues at Homeland Security.
00:33:41.000 I mean, they're the best and they're doing everything they can, but they want more resources.
00:33:44.000 And that starts at the top.
00:33:45.000 And so, yeah, I would love to see a change in regimes here in the United States.
00:33:50.000 Sure.
00:33:50.000 To put more focus, once again, on this problem that's the fastest growing criminal enterprise in the world.
00:33:56.000 Yeah, I mean, just the last point I'll say, and Tim, we're out of time, is that I have to be screamed at by these purple-haired weirdos on campus about how America was a terrible country because there was slavery that existed in the 1780s and 90s.
00:34:08.000 I say, wake up.
00:34:09.000 There's more slaves today in the North American continent. 1.00
00:34:11.000 Just look at the pornography industry. 0.85
00:34:13.000 They might not be called slaves.
00:34:14.000 They might be wearing handcuffs all the time, but they're effectively slaves.
00:34:17.000 Tim Ballard, congratulations on the film, July 4th.
00:34:20.000 Thank you so much.
00:34:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:22.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:26.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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