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00:01:06.000The RNC race that is going to happen on 127 is directly tied to what's happening in Congress.
00:01:16.000You see, Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell, and Ronna McDaniel Romney, all three of them are different but similar in the sense that they are the highest-ranking Republicans in the House, the Senate, and of course, running the Republican Party.
00:01:44.000We do not want things to continue as they have.
00:01:47.000$1.7 trillion omnibus bill, losing the U.S. Senate.
00:01:51.000It is a pattern of losing our country, losing elections.
00:01:57.000And Ronna Romney, running the RNC, who has personally attacked me and Turning Point, believes she's entitled to continue to be RNC chair despite loss after loss after loss.
00:02:12.000Well, joining us now is someone who's running for the state party chair of Ohio, who is behind Harmee Dylan and will not vote for Ronna Romney coming up on 127.
00:02:26.000Tell us why you're running and the dynamics that are kind of folding, you know, unfolding in Ohio and why that has national implications.
00:02:33.000Well, I'm running for a vacancy in the chairmanship in Ohio for a lot of the same reasons that there is a challenge being brought to run in Washington.
00:02:40.000We win elections here in Ohio, but we're making it a little bit more difficult.
00:02:44.000And we also have this kind of swamp-like maneuver within Ohio that preordains who gets through primaries.
00:02:50.000And so that's those are local state issues.
00:02:52.000But one of the major issues in this chairman's fight is who's going to, who will you vote for at the end of the month for national chairman?
00:03:00.000I'm the only candidate in the race that has endorsed Harmeet Dillon.
00:04:20.000The one thing we lacked here that we've had, we've enjoyed in the past, and the RNC has to lead that process are these victory centers.
00:04:27.000The victory centers in Ohio are regionally placed.
00:04:30.000Typically, we have one here in Summit County.
00:04:32.000And what they helped to do is they helped to run the grassroots campaign, getting out and coordinating the volunteers at the local level to make the grassroots push.
00:04:42.000Whether or not the money was there or raised or wasn't raised at the RNC level, we had no victory centers throughout the state of Ohio.
00:04:50.000Our ground game, both in the J.R. Majewski race, Madison's race, I'm not so sure about the race in Cincinnati, but they were pathetic, completely underwhelming.
00:05:00.000That, and absent of the contrast you need with your Democrat opponent, just made it so that these first-time candidates weren't able to win.
00:05:08.000Yeah, and I mean, this is an issue that continues to manifest.
00:05:11.000So there's other people that are running in Ohio for either the chairmanship or committeemen, and they support Rana.
00:05:22.000Well, the one supports Rana, and that's our chief opposition.
00:05:28.000I don't, other than he doesn't have an argument.
00:05:30.000All he basically does is take orders from those who handle him behind the curtain.
00:05:35.000The other two candidates have been silent, primarily because they really haven't focused on the, they don't really see this aspect of the job.
00:06:19.000That's why 98% of the people that showed up at our turning point event and took our turning point action poll, 98% said they want Rana Romney out of the head of the RNC.
00:06:33.000Well, and I can tell you, Charlie, since I've made the endorsement of Harmeet and tried to make it a critical piece of this decision-making process with our state central committee members, nobody has criticized me and said, well, how can you dare to take out this outstanding job?
00:06:53.000I can tell you after being on several other shows and other national show, the emails and support started pouring in both to me and to also state central committee members.
00:07:05.000In fact, I would welcome your listeners in Ohio to let their state central committee members know time for a change.
00:07:12.000Support a candidate for state party chairman who will support Harmeet Dillon and a change at the RNC leadership level.
00:07:20.000And it's been not just largely positive, it's been exclusively positive.
00:07:51.000We will meet on Friday in Columbus to elect our chairman.
00:07:55.000That chairman then will represent Ohio at the end of the month in Washington when we have the selection for the national chairman.
00:08:02.000So, the process now, I have the most votes in the race by far.
00:08:05.000There are three other candidates who have votes.
00:08:08.000And as the bottom vote getter is eliminated, I'm trying to be their choice on the second and third ballot.
00:08:14.000And so, if your listeners want to engage, we can certainly happy to let them know who their state central committee man or woman is so that they could recommend our election and we can get some change in Washington.
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00:08:37.000This is Charlie Kirk, and I strongly recommend you go right now and see my friends at PAX to review your investments.
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00:09:54.000You know, Lincoln in his first inaugural warned that the problem of secession is once you establish that principle, then everybody can secede from everybody.
00:10:05.000These five people need to take a deep breath tonight and ask themselves: are they really want to send a signal that every five people in the conference can screw up everything for whatever reason?
00:10:19.000Three of them went in and presented Kevin McCarthy with 30-some different demands, most of them involving personal advancement.
00:10:28.000And in a free society, you cannot, just as you can't give in to terrorists and you can't give in to hostage takers, you can't allow them to take the conference hostage and win.
00:10:39.000Now, I don't think Newt meant that literally because the left calls us literal terrorists and uses the national security apparatus to come after us.
00:10:48.000But let me continue to build out an argument that I floated.
00:10:53.000The base has been looking for a pressure release valve ever since the midterms.
00:11:02.000We had our hopes up to win seats in the Senate.
00:11:04.000We had hopes up for Herschel Walker and for Blake Masters.
00:11:08.000And so we had a very disappointing showing in the midterms.
00:11:11.000We had a disappointing showing in the Georgia runoff.
00:11:14.000And then how does Mitch McConnell, the turtle, thank us?
00:11:18.000How does DC act after a disappointing midterms?
00:11:22.000We get an inexcusable $1.7 trillion bill that is now law, that sent money to every LGBTQ fantasy camp, that sent money to go secure the border of Tunisia, Oman, Pakistan, and Lebanon, while disallowing any money to be spent on our own southern border.
00:11:45.000We're invaded routinely across the southern border.
00:11:48.000Learn that Twitter has been working with our own intel agencies and the Republicans would not be bothered to do anything about it.
00:11:55.000And the people have been betrayed and lied to and deceived.
00:12:01.000And in some sense, it's just very bad timing for Kevin McCarthy because Kevin McCarthy now finds himself as the metaphorical punching bag, the meeting point, the culmination, the intersection of all the anger, of all the betrayal that people have felt, understandably felt these last couple of months, these last couple of years.
00:12:24.000In some ways, this was inevitable because the regime in D.C. has been treating you so poorly for so long that this was just delaying the inevitable.
00:12:41.000And you, the grassroots, have been looking for any opportunity, any opening to be able to say, I hate you.
00:12:50.000I really hate you because you hate me.
00:12:54.000That is the tone and the tenor of millions of grassroots conservatives.
00:13:02.000And it's not personally, it's not that people personally hate Kevin McCarthy.
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00:16:04.000We have Troy Nels, who is from the 22nd congressional district in Texas and Freedom Caucus member and an all-star conservative who is voting in favor of Kevin McCarthy.
00:17:39.000And that number is kind of holding still, but it seems that there was an Victoria Sparks did whatever because she's upset McCarthy isn't sending enough money to Zelensky or whatever.
00:17:49.000But there's no movement in McCarthy's direction.
00:17:59.000The McCarthy vote will probably get right up to about 200, 203 again.
00:18:04.000And there are going to be, I bet you, 150 of those, 160 of those, that are not voting for anybody other than Kevin McCarthy.
00:18:12.000So if you just look at the pure numbers, you got 20 that are against McCarthy.
00:18:17.000But right now you have over 200 that are for McCarthy.
00:18:20.000You just got to ask yourself, I mean, that's one out of every five that are supporting Byron Donalds.
00:18:27.000I just think that my opinion, as a member of the Freedom Caucus and the small majority that we have of four members, I believe that this is not the battle we should be fighting.
00:18:39.000We can win the war and lose this battle.
00:18:41.000And we do that through legislation next year.
00:18:44.000Kevin McCarthy is going to have to understand if he wants anything to get through the House of Representatives this year, he's going to need the support and the endorsement from the House Freedom Caucus.
00:19:19.000So then how is this impasse going to be broken?
00:19:23.000I've had conversations with members of the 20, and I said, you know, there was an issue here as it related to vacate the chair, Charlie, which is a privileged motion.
00:20:13.000But I think this is embarrassing for our conference.
00:20:17.000I think the American people gave us the gavel November 8th, and they're expecting leadership.
00:20:21.000They're begging for leadership because we don't have it under this White House and this Congress.
00:20:26.000And so now we have an opportunity to lead, and we're fumbling the football today.
00:20:30.000Yeah, and it seems as if that fumbling is only going to continue.
00:20:34.000And so one of my suggestions to the House Freedom Caucus, and I spent a lot of time on the phone with some of them last evening trying to get clarity here, is be clear about what you are trying to accomplish.
00:20:47.000If it is personal, then say it's personal.
00:20:50.000They say something along the lines of the rules committee and the steering committee and motion to vacate.
00:20:56.000Motion to vacate seems to be getting worked out.
00:21:16.000And Nancy Pelosi removed vacate the chair two years ago.
00:21:20.000And what that is, is the privileged motion where any member can get on the House floor and say, I make a motion to vacate the chair, meaning you would have another vote for speaker.
00:21:30.000That means you want this speaker removed, right?
00:21:32.000You want to vacate that chair, that speaker's chair.
00:21:44.000We thought initially the conversation was a majority of the majority, meaning if there's 222 of us and the majority of the 222 want to make that privileged motion, let's do it.
00:21:56.000It's been reduced down to the five of us.
00:21:59.000Five members can get up there and make that motion, and then you would have a vote.
00:22:05.000Again, we go through the same process like we're doing right now, Charlie.
00:22:10.000And so it hasn't been abused in the past hundred years.
00:22:14.000I don't believe, I think it was been done one time in 100 years where they did actually a motion to vacate the chair, and that was Speaker Cannon back in 1909, I believe.
00:23:13.000And those steering committee reps make, they are the ones that will draft and assign these committees to these different personnel.
00:23:21.000Now, if you want to get the gavel of one of our committees, one of the committees, you want the gavel and be the chairman, you have to conduct an interview.
00:23:28.000You have to go in front of the steering committee and sell yourself.
00:23:32.000Now, the speaker and the majority leader and the whip, they get a few more votes.
00:23:37.000I mean, a steering member gets one, but McCarthy is the speaker.
00:23:40.000I believe Steve Scalise III and the WIP II.
00:23:43.000So they have a little bit more influence, but still, if you want to get on a committee, yes, McCarthy has some influence, but you also got to reach out to the other members of the steering committee and sell yourself and say, this is why you want that gavel.
00:23:57.000And so then the House Committee on Rules would, what do they do?
00:24:01.000They set the parameters of how the House conducts business.
00:24:09.000There are some concerns about members that said that the speaker is the one that's going to determine what the floor votes on, what goes to the floor.
00:24:21.000And, you know, right, wrong, and different.
00:24:25.000I believe if I was the speaker, I would want to make sure that when we are voting on legislation as the majority, that it has the 218 to pass.
00:24:36.000You don't want to start putting legislation on the floor as the majority, and all of a sudden we can't pass the legislation in our own party.
00:24:43.000So there's some pros and cons to all of that, but I just believe that we can hold the Freedom Caucus can hold Kevin McCarthy accountable because we are more relevant today than we've been in the past because we have such a slim majority, 4C, 222 of us, takes 218 to pass any legislation, and there's got to be 35 to 40 of us in the Freedom Caucus.
00:25:11.000If I want anything to pass and send it to the Senate, which may be dead on arrival because the Senate is so dysfunctional, but if we want anything to leave the House, he's going to need the endorsement, support, and the stamp of approval from the House Freedom Caucus.
00:25:25.000And that's if we can end up getting a speaker, right?
00:25:28.000And so what some of the Freedom Caucus people are saying, well, let's just go for Scalise or anybody but Kevin.
00:25:35.000That's a troubling proposition in some ways, is it not?
00:25:38.000I mean, it's the old adage, be careful what you wish for.
00:25:56.000And Steve Scalise wants to be the majority leader.
00:25:59.000And Steve Scalise yesterday was on the floor and he nominated McCarthy for Speaker.
00:26:04.000So all I'm saying is that if we have identified the problem and McCarthy's the problem, you have to have a workable solution to the problem.
00:26:16.000And I think the conference as a whole, when you've got, you know, you're down one to five, you've got over 200 that are supporting McCarthy and you've got 20 that are supporting anybody but McCarthy.
00:26:30.000And the longer we continue to do this, I think the more disappointed the American people as a whole are going to be, specifically the Republican Party.
00:26:39.000Now, some feel that this is the right thing to do because it's a swamp up here and we have to change direction.
00:27:30.000We got investigations we have to conduct.
00:27:32.000And when you got Jim Jordan as the chair of judiciary, you got Comer as government and oversight.
00:27:38.000We can start pushing back and holding the Democrats accountable for their irresponsible policies, spending, and activities they've had over the past two years.
00:27:47.000Let's get to work and put the American people first.
00:27:50.000Troy Nels from the 22nd District of the great state of Texas.
00:28:44.000Donald Trump said this morning and last night, some really good conversations took place last night.
00:28:49.000Now it's time for all of our great Republican House members to vote for Kevin, close the deal, take victory, and watch crazy Nancy Pelosi fly back home to a very broken California.
00:28:59.000The only speaker in U.S. history to have lost the House twice.
00:29:01.000Republicans do not turn a great triumph into a giant and embarrassing defeat.
00:29:10.000He said this morning: if Republicans are going to fight, we ought to be fighting Mitch McConnell and his domineering, China-loving boss, I mean, wife, Coco Chow.
00:29:31.000And so Trump is going all in on Kevin McCarthy.
00:29:34.000And I'm curious what your thoughts are.
00:29:36.000Does that make you more likely to support Kevin McCarthy or less likely?
00:29:42.000Now, I did tweet this morning that I thought Donald Trump should personally fly up to Washington, D.C. and broker a deal, whether that's in favor of Kevin McCarthy, in favor of Byron Donald's.
00:30:28.000I think he should fire up Trump Force One, fly into Washington, D.C., come and act like the magnanimous leader that he is and call a meeting.
00:31:04.000And I'm afraid that if Trump does not do that, this is going in an uncertain direction because there is not anyone that has the political power, political capital, that has the capacity to negotiate like Donald Trump.
00:31:17.000And I'm supporting Donald Trump in 2024.
00:31:19.000So I have a very politically selfish reason.
00:31:22.000His stock would go up in everybody's eyes.
00:31:25.000He would look like the man that solved the impossible deal.
00:31:28.000Hasn't gone to five ballots since 1865.
00:31:33.000And Donald Trump comes in to Washington, D.C. and makes the impossible deal possible.
00:31:39.000It will de-escalate a lot of his critics.
00:31:42.000And by the way, it's in his interest to have a functioning House of Representatives to cross-examine and investigate the Department of Justice that just raided Mar-a-Lago.
00:31:53.000So, this is a deal that, in some ways, he personally needs to get done.
00:31:57.000But if you just look at his 2024 stock, there's a lot of people that are upset with Trump because of Georgia and the runoffs.
00:32:20.000And some people will say, well, Charlie, if he's not able to do the deal, then it will make him look bad.
00:32:23.000Well, look, at some point, you got to take some risk.
00:32:28.000Do you think that getting Israel and Saudi Arabia to have a peace deal is somehow easier than getting 16 Republicans, all of which in heavy MAGA districts, to come together and to support a speaker if it's Kevin or somebody else?
00:32:45.000No, Donald Trump, he redid the Commodore Hotel.