The Charlie Kirk Show - The Speech UC-Davis Tried To Stop

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, happy Saturday.

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00:00:46.000 Here we go.

00:00:48.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:49.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:51.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:55.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:58.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:59.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:00.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:02.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:08.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:17.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:20.000 First of all, thanks for coming.

00:01:23.000 And they didn't make it easy.

00:01:26.000 And it's interesting.

00:01:27.000 We're going to talk about how important it is to speak and to be able to speak freely in this country.

00:01:34.000 Free speech is a moral good for all people.

00:01:37.000 And we're going to exercise that tonight in more ways than one.

00:01:41.000 But I think a lot of the energy around tonight is because of a material falsehood that the Sacramento Bee first published, and which literally started from an internet rumor that is not just untrue.

00:01:55.000 It is the opposite of the truth.

00:01:57.000 And then unfortunately, the chancellor of this school repeated it in a video today, which is completely slanderous and defamatory.

00:02:05.000 We're going to go into that.

00:02:06.000 But first, I want to thank specifically the police here tonight that are helping make sure that this event, they really deserve a lot of thanks.

00:02:15.000 They do.

00:02:16.000 And that is a tough, tough job.

00:02:18.000 I don't know if you saw, but they broke some windows.

00:02:21.000 The terrorists did outside to try to come in.

00:02:24.000 People had things thrown at them.

00:02:26.000 The whole place was spray painted, not just throughout the week, but also tonight.

00:02:30.000 And the fact that this event is allowed to go on is a testament to the terrorists that we are not going to put up with force of trying to shut down people you don't like.

00:02:41.000 And instead, we are going to have a free society based on speech, based on dialogue, based on discourse.

00:02:47.000 And tonight is a statement to them that they're the losers and that speech wins in America.

00:02:52.000 That is what tonight is all about.

00:02:55.000 Now, I have to do two things.

00:02:57.000 First of which, I have to talk about this Sacramento Bee story.

00:03:01.000 You guys fans of the Sacramento Bee around here?

00:03:04.000 You know, it's just hard to believe who actually funds these papers, right? 1.00

00:03:08.000 So this writer who, I don't know if she's a nice person or not, but she's a total liar. 0.94

00:03:13.000 Hannah Holzer, it's hilarious. 0.96

00:03:15.000 She says here, first she says, another fascist speaker is coming to UC Davis.

00:03:22.000 How should the community respond?

00:03:24.000 Opinion in the Sacramento Bee.

00:03:26.000 So fascist speaker, I don't know who she's talking about, because tonight you're going to see that anyone who disagrees with me tonight is not just allowed, but is encouraged to go ask a question.

00:03:37.000 I would be the worst fascist in the history of government if you allow people that disagree with you to go to the front of the line and challenge you with an open mic.

00:03:45.000 So I don't know who she's talking about.

00:03:46.000 You know who the fascists are?

00:03:48.000 The people outside using violence to try to shut us up.

00:03:51.000 Those are the violent. 0.86

00:03:52.000 Those are the fascists outside.

00:03:54.000 So Hannah Holzer writes this for the Sacramento Bee.

00:03:58.000 And this is, look, I get lied about all the time, and the result is death threats and violence and all that.

00:04:04.000 I could deal with it.

00:04:05.000 What bothers me, though, is every so often one of you have to be the recipient of this propaganda campaign.

00:04:12.000 And you don't have a platform like I do.

00:04:14.000 You don't have a podcast like I do to be able to punch back and actually set the record straight.

00:04:18.000 They come after people that aren't as big or as strong as the newspapers are, and they try to crush you.

00:04:24.000 And in fact, they do this to try to chill all your speech at your workplace, in your family, to try to make a public example of it.

00:04:32.000 And they just flat-out lies.

00:04:33.000 So, Hannah Holzer writes in the Sacramento B, she writes a lot of stuff, but one paragraph in particular. 0.79

00:04:41.000 She says this, Kirk has called for the lynching of trans people.

00:04:46.000 A comment, this is the Sacramento B, a comment that is beneath contempt. 0.97

00:04:50.000 That is a lie.

00:04:51.000 I have never done that.

00:04:53.000 I have never thought that.

00:04:54.000 There is zero evidence of that.

00:04:56.000 In fact, it originated by some Twitter account by some trans activist that saw a segment of mine where I said, quote, in the 50s or 60s, we would not have put up with men going into female locker rooms.

00:05:07.000 That was the quote.

00:05:08.000 And by the way, it's totally true because the district attorney would have arrested men going into female locker rooms for being a pervert.

00:05:15.000 And I said that. 0.97

00:05:16.000 She says, Charlie Kirk is calling for the lynching of trans people. 0.81

00:05:19.000 I've never said it.

00:05:20.000 I've never alluded to it.

00:05:21.000 In fact, I've always been clear about peaceful activism.

00:05:24.000 But instead, the Sacramento B writes this.

00:05:27.000 The Sacramento B publishes this.

00:05:29.000 And if they could do it to me, they're going to do it to all of you.

00:05:32.000 They're going to do this to every single good, God-loving patriot in this country to try to smear you and slander you.

00:05:38.000 Frankly, as a UCD alum, I have little confidence in the ability of UCD to keep the peace.

00:05:43.000 Is that a threat?

00:05:45.000 Apparently it is.

00:05:46.000 So they lie about me, and then they're surprised.

00:05:49.000 Like, oh, I don't know why there's all this violence happening everywhere.

00:05:51.000 It's just people can't control themselves.

00:05:53.000 How about you stop lying about the speaker that's coming on your college campus, Sacramento B?

00:05:58.000 How about you stop smearing people just because you disagree with them?

00:06:04.000 She continues by reflecting on, she says, my overwhelming indication, inclination is the demand UC Davis to get ahead of the situation and uninvite Kirk.

00:06:15.000 But there's no legal basis for doing so.

00:06:17.000 Praise God for our founding fathers that we have a First Amendment in this country, that people like Hannah Holzer aren't in charge.

00:06:25.000 She continues to say that, unfortunately, Charlie Kirk has a right to speak, and the Davis community has a right to show him he's not welcome.

00:06:32.000 So again, I've never, ever, ever said anything to even allude to the violence against trans people or any people.

00:06:38.000 In fact, I do over a thousand hours of radio every single year.

00:06:43.000 I give public speeches where everything I say is filmed.

00:06:46.000 Find one sentence where I've ever advocated for anything violent.

00:06:49.000 You won't find it.

00:06:50.000 If it was there, they would have led with it.

00:06:52.000 And that's the tell.

00:06:52.000 She doesn't even cite her source.

00:06:54.000 She just makes it up.

00:06:56.000 But these lies are not innocent.

00:06:58.000 Here's what ends up happening.

00:06:59.000 So then the chancellor of your school ends up doing a video saying the exact same lie.

00:07:06.000 Watch this video of the chancellor of this university parroting this material falsehood about something I did not say.

00:07:12.000 I didn't think.

00:07:13.000 I didn't get close to saying, watch this video of Gary May.

00:07:18.000 Many of you have reached out to me and others regarding tonight's event organized by the registered student organization Turning Point USA, or TPUSA at UC Davis.

00:07:28.000 Thank you for sharing your distress at a student group hosting a speaker who is a well-documented proponent of misinformation and hate and who has advocated for violence against transgender individuals.

00:07:39.000 That is a lie.

00:07:52.000 With respect to concerns related to violence, UC policy permits denial of requests if the speaker will present a clear and present danger to the campus.

00:08:01.000 That's what council also means.

00:08:14.000 We can't control how these groups operate, but we can work together to neutralize and negate their influence.

00:08:19.000 So, having to speak to an empty room would make a powerful statement.

00:08:22.000 Looks like the room is not so empty, Gary May.

00:08:25.000 Sorry, you failed miserably having to speak to an empty room.

00:08:29.000 No, actually, the room is rather well attended.

00:08:32.000 Thank you.

00:08:34.000 And I want to focus.

00:08:36.000 So, not only did he lie about me, but then he also said, Well, you know, it would be something if the room isn't filled, saying that he actually has a bias towards what he wants to have happen tonight.

00:08:47.000 But here's what I want to just emphasize the most: this is not some sort of deranged professor, this is someone in a leadership position earning hundreds of thousands of dollars a year that has a duty to you, the students.

00:09:00.000 And here's my question for Gary May: Will he condemn the fact that windows were broken tonight and that people have been arrested for their violence?

00:09:08.000 Because he's so worried about violence, and then he repeats and parrots the lie.

00:09:13.000 Our country is broken right now, and it's broken largely in part because you have people in leadership positions that are more worried about stoking the sensitivities and feelings of Antifa outside than actually a commitment to the truth.

00:09:31.000 Do you know what he should have said?

00:09:32.000 I don't care that he, it really doesn't bother me that he doesn't like my views.

00:09:35.000 I don't exactly go out of my way to try to win the opinions of chancellors of University of California universities.

00:09:40.000 Not exactly why I do what I do, right?

00:09:42.000 Instead, he could have said, you know what?

00:09:44.000 Charlie Kirk has views I don't share.

00:09:47.000 But also, it's important that those of you know that there's a lie being spread about Charlie Kirk, that he is saying that there should be violence against trans people.

00:09:54.000 Instead, he's inciting it.

00:09:57.000 He wants to talk about incitement of violence.

00:09:59.000 That right there is an incitement of violence.

00:10:01.000 And they're just, oh, well, you know, we're going to be watching this speech very closely.

00:10:05.000 I hope you watch this speech.

00:10:07.000 You know what you'll find?

00:10:08.000 You'll find that the disagreements, again, go to the front of the line.

00:10:11.000 You'll find a call for peace and harmony to try to be able to remedy our differences and divisions in America through dialogue and discourse.

00:10:19.000 Because America can go one of two ways.

00:10:21.000 We can go a totalitarian way, where we go back to street mob justice, or we can stay on the path that our founding fathers set before us.

00:10:29.000 Where if we have differences, we have debate, we have dialogue.

00:10:33.000 We're able to actually figure out if we have anything in common at all.

00:10:37.000 Speech is a massive moral advancement.

00:10:40.000 We are the speaking beings.

00:10:42.000 And that's why the founding fathers put the First Amendment right front and center.

00:10:46.000 The ability to challenge your government, the ability to speak, the ability to petition your government for rights and redresses and grievances.

00:10:54.000 And leaders have to be, leaders have a moral obligation to tell the truth, and they also have an obligation.

00:11:02.000 If you're in charge of a school, why don't you lead your students towards virtuous action, not try to put them away in a direction that is altogether against the values that made America the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world?

00:11:16.000 So I didn't actually, you know, a week ago you said, oh, Charlie, what are you going to speak about here?

00:11:20.000 I don't know.

00:11:21.000 But isn't this an example of how derailed our country is?

00:11:25.000 Where I'm coming to a college campus where we need 100 police officers and SWAT teams to prevent from the breaking in of windows.

00:11:35.000 Some of you sent me messages, Charlie, I'm fearful for my safety to come here tonight.

00:11:39.000 And that's exactly what they want.

00:11:42.000 They want to try to intimidate you.

00:11:44.000 They want to try to make you cower in fear.

00:11:46.000 This is exactly why they've been doing this in every single fashion.

00:11:49.000 They do it in the streets.

00:11:50.000 They're trying to do it in the banking system.

00:11:52.000 They're trying to do this on social media.

00:11:54.000 And guess what?

00:11:55.000 If they didn't fear our ideas, they would not have to act like gangsters.

00:12:01.000 They know that our ideas are popular.

00:12:03.000 And what are we doing tonight?

00:12:04.000 90 minutes?

00:12:06.000 The professors at this school get four years of uninterrupted indoctrination.

00:12:11.000 I ask for 90 minutes.

00:12:12.000 That's how you know what we're about to share tonight.

00:12:15.000 Probably has a lot of truth in it.

00:12:16.000 That 90 minutes of truth can derail and, in fact, reverse four years of indoctrination at the University of California, Davis.

00:12:29.000 So I want to get to some questions, but I do want to just reiterate and thank, and I meant to do this, our Turning Point USA students.

00:12:36.000 These are the heroes, everybody.

00:12:37.000 What they go through on a daily basis is unbelievable.

00:12:41.000 They deserve so much credit.

00:12:43.000 Their personal information gets doxxed.

00:12:46.000 Their private information gets made public.

00:12:48.000 They are the recipient of threats, physical intimidation, and they're doing it as a way to try to chill speech and try to chill conservative activism.

00:12:57.000 I am inspired by how many young people know the cost.

00:13:03.000 They know how hard it is to put in an event like this.

00:13:07.000 They know what they're going to have to encounter, and they do it anyway.

00:13:10.000 And they say, you know what?

00:13:11.000 My country is worth it.

00:13:12.000 You know, my grandfather stormed Normandy Beach.

00:13:15.000 I'm going to host Charlie Kirk on campus.

00:13:17.000 Not exactly the same thing.

00:13:18.000 It's a lot different.

00:13:19.000 This is a lot easier, right?

00:13:21.000 But it goes to show that the very same totalitarianism that so many of you have always been afraid that come to our shores, it's here now.

00:13:30.000 The very same totalitarianism of street justice, of intimidation, of having to deploy, you know, look at this, a barricade.

00:13:36.000 I don't want to be this far away from you guys.

00:13:38.000 I'd rather be right up there.

00:13:39.000 As if, you know, this is some sort of, you know, massive UFC fight or something.

00:13:43.000 And someone's going to, it's some sort of wrestling ring.

00:13:46.000 But here's the other thing.

00:13:47.000 Somebody said, well, Charlie, why do you want to go to UC Davis so bad?

00:13:50.000 Well, first of all, our beautiful chapter invited us, and I wanted to honor that.

00:13:54.000 Number two, I hope to be able to have disagreement about the consensus ideas that are prevailing these college campuses.

00:14:02.000 I want to talk about why critical theory is an awful and bad idea.

00:14:07.000 I want to talk about how woke is a mind virus destroying our country.

00:14:10.000 I want to talk about how there are two genders, period.

00:14:13.000 I want to talk about how the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written.

00:14:17.000 I want to talk about how this country is not just the greatest country ever to exist, but we're so close to losing it, what we could do to try to reverse it.

00:14:24.000 I want to talk about all those different things.

00:14:25.000 But the third reason why I'm here, and it's very important, is I want to remind the people that think they dominate us conservatives that they don't.

00:14:35.000 I want to remind them through us being here tonight.

00:14:40.000 I want to remind them that there's actually a lot more of us, that there's people that look at the world through a rational, reasonable, center-right worldview.

00:14:48.000 That there are people that you might never have known that actually believe in eternal wisdom and eternal truths and allowing this country to continue to go hopefully on a path of prosperity and to flourish.

00:15:02.000 And they win when we silence ourselves.

00:15:06.000 I am a big, let me just put it this way.

00:15:09.000 You know, the, oh, I just got an update from the team, by the way.

00:15:14.000 The Sacramento B, so interesting coincidence.

00:15:16.000 They took down the original article and corrected the lynching lie.

00:15:19.000 Too little, too late, if you ask me in some ways.

00:15:22.000 But they still call me a fascist, of which there is no evidence whatsoever.

00:15:25.000 But the damage was already done.

00:15:27.000 By the way, you know why that happened?

00:15:29.000 Because they got a very strongly worded letter from our legal department as soon as that went up.

00:15:34.000 We have to be willing to sue these people when they lie about us.

00:15:37.000 Like Nicholas Sandman and so many others that sue that Kyle Rittenhouse and many others.

00:15:45.000 But I want all of you to know that, yes, it's hard in California.

00:15:48.000 It might feel as if you're outnumbered, but the totalitarians and the tyrants are the most bothered when all of a sudden they realize they can't break your will, they can't break your resolve, they can't break your commitment to the truth, and that they might quote-unquote outnumber you for the time being, but you're going to show that we only get stronger the more they resort to these types of tactics.

00:16:11.000 That we're going to keep on showing up to these events, that we're going to keep on leaning in, that we're going to keep on running for local office, that we're going to keep up our prayer meetings, that we're going to keep on homeschooling our kids, that we're going to keep on pressuring our school boards, that it is an attitude of a commitment that no matter what they do to us, that we are going to get stronger, not weaker.

00:16:32.000 You want a sign of hope?

00:16:33.000 I'll give you a sign of hope.

00:16:35.000 A sign of hope is that conservatives at every single turn have to justify their positions.

00:16:40.000 Why do you believe that?

00:16:41.000 You're a bigot. 1.00

00:16:41.000 You're a racist. 1.00

00:16:42.000 You're this. 1.00

00:16:43.000 You get tougher when you have to do that.

00:16:43.000 You're that.

00:16:46.000 You get tougher when you have to debate and you have to defend your positions.

00:16:50.000 At every turn, the left is weak.

00:16:54.000 They're weak and they are fragile.

00:16:56.000 Weak, fragile people try to prevent other people from speaking.

00:17:00.000 Conservative students roll their eyes and they're like, well, that's kind of a weird idea.

00:17:04.000 And they would take the opportunity to go to the open mic and challenge the speaker.

00:17:08.000 The future of America rests solely on if the conservative movement will continue to expand and refuse to surrender to these sort of quasi-terroristic tactics that are being used.

00:17:23.000 And so tonight is a statement in that more ways than one.

00:17:27.000 And I'm very pleased to be able that this event was not canceled. 0.67

00:17:30.000 And it shows that not only are they personal losers, but they lost tonight.

00:17:35.000 And that is something I'm very, very thrilled to be able to celebrate with you. 0.59

00:17:38.000 Let's do some questions.

00:17:40.000 And it's the best part of the evening.

00:17:41.000 I want to reiterate a couple things.

00:17:43.000 This is a largely favorable audience.

00:17:45.000 A lot of conservatives here, a lot of people that agree with me.

00:17:48.000 If somebody, this is, again, Sacramento B, I hope you're taking notes.

00:17:52.000 If somebody comes up and you find something objectionable or you find something disagreeable, do not interrupt them or boo them.

00:18:00.000 Instead, welcome the disagreement to come so that we can have dialogue. 0.81

00:18:04.000 Even if you find the ideas to kind of be, oh, that's so silly.

00:18:07.000 Allow people that disagree a chance to tell us what they believe and why they believe it.

00:18:12.000 We need to show the world the left is what happens in the streets.

00:18:16.000 The left lies like the chancellor.

00:18:19.000 We have real free speech here in this room, and we're going to show that tonight for the remainder of the evening.

00:18:23.000 So please feel free to line up.

00:18:25.000 If you disagree, you're allowed to go to the front of the line.

00:18:27.000 And I look forward to speaking with you, and we'll go to the first couple of questions.

00:18:32.000 All right.

00:18:35.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:18:36.000 This is my name is Veronica.

00:18:38.000 My question is this: for folks who are wanting to try to rebuild a relationship with their families and peers, those of whom they may not be able to disagree with politically speaking, and how can they establish a dialogue and conversation, like being able to talk about anything like politics, COVID, or events without feeling like they feel like they're going to have to force it upon them?

00:18:58.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:18:59.000 Yeah, for family members, especially?

00:19:01.000 Or, yeah.

00:19:02.000 Especially, yes.

00:19:04.000 Yeah, so look, this is a tough thing, right?

00:19:07.000 Let's first talk with your parents about your parents.

00:19:10.000 I'm a big believer in the biblical commandment of honoring your mother and father.

00:19:14.000 99.9% of the people in this room have no excuse not to honor your parents.

00:19:18.000 I don't care if they don't share your politics.

00:19:21.000 I don't care if they were nasty to you, if they were legitimately abusive in a very serious way, then yes.

00:19:27.000 Okay?

00:19:28.000 But 99% of the time, people say, well, I just don't get along with them.

00:19:30.000 I don't like them.

00:19:31.000 If you cannot honor your parents here on earth, then you will not be able to honor the eternal and divine Father, of which is much more important, by the way.

00:19:40.000 It is a step and an intermediary to that.

00:19:43.000 Secondly, with honoring your parents, it is the only one of the 10 commandments that involves your nation and a promise.

00:19:50.000 Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

00:19:54.000 One of the reasons why America is falling apart is because we have decided to break this commandment and we are teaching children to no longer honor their parents. 0.99

00:20:03.000 A nation that no longer honors their parents, you have a bunch of 17-year-olds that think their parents are dumb and stupid, and they do what they think is right in their own eyes, and that creates a morally chaotic, miserable country very quickly. 0.98

00:20:15.000 So I just talked about that on the parents. 0.98

00:20:17.000 Do everything you possibly can to not allow divisive politics or different ideas to get in the way of your family relationships or your close relationships.

00:20:27.000 You need to do that.

00:20:28.000 Now, how many people here have family or close friends on the left that won't talk to you because of your politics?

00:20:32.000 Raise your hand.

00:20:33.000 A lot of hands go up.

00:20:34.000 That's unfortunate.

00:20:34.000 That's tragic.

00:20:35.000 Never do that with a leftist.

00:20:37.000 You as a conservative have a moral obligation to even keep a relationship neutral or warm in one way despite the difference in worldview.

00:20:46.000 A worldview is not an excuse to sever a relationship.

00:20:50.000 They might do that to you.

00:20:51.000 You should never do that to them.

00:20:53.000 That is cruel.

00:20:54.000 It is wrong.

00:20:55.000 And it only further divides America.

00:20:57.000 Okay?

00:20:59.000 If they do that to you, ask them to reconsider and try to find common values.

00:21:04.000 I know it happens very often.

00:21:06.000 I do not like when people say, well, I'm a conservative father and I refuse to talk to my daughter because she's a liberal.

00:21:12.000 You have a moral obligation to stay in touch with your child, to be truthful to your child.

00:21:16.000 Don't change your views.

00:21:18.000 Be very honest about how you think they have erred in their step.

00:21:21.000 But the left or the people that wish to divide the country would love nothing more than to create silence between family members that have shared experience and bonds just because they have different worldviews.

00:21:31.000 Thank you so much.

00:21:32.000 I appreciate it.

00:21:37.000 Hey, Charlie, as the vice president of the Turning Point Chapter at Sacramento State University, the rival TUC Davis, I'd like to just thank you real quick for creating an organization that has enriched my college experience greatly.

00:21:48.000 Thank you.

00:21:49.000 Thank you.

00:21:52.000 Now to the questions.

00:21:52.000 All right.

00:21:54.000 So a quick anecdote.

00:21:55.000 I'll make it very brief.

00:21:56.000 But I am a seven-year veteran of academic speech and debate in high school and college.

00:22:02.000 I have competed at a high level.

00:22:03.000 In fact, last year I was top 32 in the country at my chosen event.

00:22:08.000 But it is so entrenched by the left.

00:22:10.000 In fact, I have an acquaintance named Michael Moreno, who had a tournament at Arizona State University, was tossed from around for quoting a piece of evidence from Dr. Jordan Peterson.

00:22:19.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 So my question to you is, how do we start to take academia back?

00:22:25.000 What is the best route to achieve that?

00:22:27.000 Well, that's a great question.

00:22:28.000 Thank you for the enthusiasm.

00:22:29.000 And the fact that Turning Point USA has positively impacted your life makes the last decade of work worth it.

00:22:35.000 So thank you.

00:22:35.000 That really touches me.

00:22:37.000 And for those of you that support Turning Point USA, you're changing lives every single day.

00:22:40.000 Secondly, to take academia back, look, I'm not convinced it's possible in certain areas.

00:22:47.000 I think we have to build new colleges and new institutions.

00:22:49.000 Jordan is doing that with the University of Austin and many other places.

00:22:54.000 But you have to do what we're doing here tonight.

00:22:56.000 You have to try to show up, start Turning Point USA groups.

00:22:59.000 In California, it's hard because the Board of Regents is just completely and totally lost and out of control.

00:23:04.000 And that's just too bad, and it's a shame.

00:23:07.000 But look, the problem with academia is conservatives don't want to go into it for good reason, and liberals just continue to, or left-wingers continue to protect their own.

00:23:18.000 My big fear is that this woke ideology is now infiltrating the social sciences.

00:23:24.000 It's also infiltrating engineering and mathematics.

00:23:27.000 The things that you thought would be immune to the kind of racial preference worldview is now totally and completely infiltrated.

00:23:34.000 And so I wrote a whole book called The College Scam.

00:23:37.000 So I'm not exactly big on saving higher education.

00:23:41.000 But I do think there is a place for higher education.

00:23:43.000 And it pains me because I go and I visit to Hillsdale College quite often.

00:23:48.000 Hillsdale College is America's greatest college, by the way.

00:23:50.000 They do a fabulous job.

00:23:52.000 And it pains me because I see how good education could be.

00:23:56.000 I sit down in these classes at Hillsdale College and they're studying Aristotle's ethics.

00:24:01.000 They're studying, you know, Augustine.

00:24:03.000 They're studying the Summa Theologica by Aquinas.

00:24:06.000 Now, I would just venture a guess that many of you have probably not spent more than maybe a week or a month or a semester thinking about Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle and what they had to offer.

00:24:16.000 If you guys are, then I'll stand corrected on that.

00:24:18.000 Or talking about why Western civilization is the greatest and most excellent experiment in self-government in human history.

00:24:25.000 Why is that the case, right?

00:24:27.000 And so education can be great.

00:24:30.000 And there is a place for students to learn classically and read the great books and to have dialogue and discussion.

00:24:36.000 That's not what's happening on university campuses.

00:24:38.000 Instead, you get a steady diet of Robin DiAngelo and Ibram X. Kendi and of Gene Stefanik and of intro to critical race theory and Herbert Marcuse and Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida and postmodernism and post-structuralism that really these ideas could be entertained for a short while.

00:24:58.000 It's a really bad idea to build a worldview around them.

00:25:01.000 In fact, it's a great way to burn everything around you if you actually do that.

00:25:05.000 So how do we reclaim it?

00:25:06.000 I think it's time to support the good institutions and build new ones and then get out of the ones that are captured by the ideologues.

00:25:12.000 Thank you so much.

00:25:13.000 Thank you.

00:25:13.000 I appreciate it.

00:25:18.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.

00:25:20.000 I'm Aaron, and I'm a student here.

00:25:22.000 I want to start off by saying I appreciate you giving me this opportunity to discuss these issues with you.

00:25:27.000 And I want to say that though our beliefs differ greatly, I still think it's awesome to be able to converse with you respectfully.

00:25:34.000 For anyone recording me, please put me in an SJW cringe compilation.

00:25:38.000 That's part of my childhood.

00:25:39.000 Oh, okay.

00:25:41.000 I think we can arrange that.

00:25:42.000 But here's what I want to ask you about.

00:25:44.000 So trans youth experience extremely high suicide rates.

00:25:48.000 And trans youth who transition receive hormone therapy or surgery have significantly decreased rates of suicide according to studies by Turbin et al. and Almazan Kroglian et al.

00:26:01.000 In fact, this effect becomes stronger the earlier they receive the surgery or hormone therapy according to the same studies.

00:26:08.000 Additionally, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders suggests treating gender dysphoria with transition hormone therapy or surgery.

00:26:17.000 So I guess just from a purely practical standpoint, regardless of political belief or what you think about trans people, wouldn't it be a good thing to allow access to these surgeries just sort of empirically?

00:26:30.000 Sure.

00:26:30.000 Let me first ask you a question.

00:26:32.000 Why was there not a trans suicide issue in the 90s?

00:26:36.000 Are you sure that there wasn't?

00:26:38.000 It's very possible that I guess the publicization and destigmatization of transgenderism now is making it so that people who might have committed suicide before.

00:26:50.000 So the one thing we can agree on is people need help, right?

00:26:50.000 Yes.

00:26:54.000 I think the best way to help somebody that's suffering under a delusion is cognitive-based therapy and non-chemical, non-pharmacology interventions.

00:27:02.000 You would probably agree to be able to have counseling therapy.

00:27:06.000 For example, if a girl's 11 years old and she's experiencing puberty or her father's not around and she might think she's a boy, wouldn't it be more loving to say, hey, let's go through some therapy to actually get you back into alignment with your biological reality, not put you on Lupron or chemical castration or irreversible surgical methods?

00:27:24.000 That would probably be rational, right?

00:27:28.000 I think that if it were possible to reduce these feelings by, I guess, cognitive behavioral therapy and things like that, I would definitely think that would be great.

00:27:40.000 But I guess research also shows that rejecting gender identity in youth typically also increases suicide rate.

00:27:51.000 So let me ask you another question.

00:27:52.000 Do you think that people that are suffering under the mental delusion of transgenderism might have other underlying mental health issues?

00:28:00.000 Yeah, certainly.

00:28:01.000 Yeah, so it's not fair necessarily to connect transgenderism with suicide.

00:28:06.000 It might be somebody that's suffering under gender dysphoria and also a heavy dose of depression, schizophrenia, anxiety, bipolar disorder, right?

00:28:15.000 Yeah.

00:28:17.000 I guess, but just empirically, allowing access to trans or gender-affirming surgery does reduce that to.

00:28:26.000 Not necessarily.

00:28:26.000 So after six years, there's a big thing called transition regret.

00:28:30.000 We know 35,000 young people that are now vocally saying they regret gender, like medically mutilating themselves.

00:28:39.000 And there is no reverse switch on that.

00:28:42.000 So again, wouldn't it be rational to do what is reversible, which is just cognitive behavioral therapy, not what is irreversible to a 12-year-old that might be going through a temporary puberty-driven crisis?

00:28:54.000 Wouldn't that be a more loving, rational way of going about it?

00:28:57.000 Because what we have now is a boom industry of quote-unquote gender-affirming care clinics and pediatric gender clinics for 12, 13, and 14-year-olds, some of which, by the way, do not require parental consent of a 13-year-old that might make a mistake.

00:29:12.000 And I think you would agree, you made mistakes when you were 13 years old, right?

00:29:15.000 Of course, of course.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, so shouldn't we have a health care system and laws that reflect trying to protect the innocence of a 13-year-old, not trying to incentivize their mistakes where they can't reverse that decision later in life?

00:29:27.000 Yeah.

00:29:32.000 I definitely agree that there are certainly people who do regret these surgeries, and I don't think that's something we should minimize.

00:29:39.000 But at the same time, there are also hundreds of thousands of people who don't regret these surgeries.

00:29:44.000 And I guess overall.

00:29:47.000 So then maybe they should wait till they're 18.

00:29:50.000 I think that's the whole crux of this, right?

00:29:51.000 So you got 12, 13, 14, 15.

00:29:54.000 And then I would have a separate moral question on that, right?

00:29:56.000 Even when they're 18.

00:29:57.000 But we're focusing on the pediatric element, right?

00:30:00.000 Which I think is important.

00:30:02.000 And let me just kind of re-emphasize this, which I think is the question.

00:30:05.000 Let me actually ask you this.

00:30:06.000 Is there an age that's too young in your opinion?

00:30:08.000 If a six-year-old says, I think I'm a boy, do you think it might be too young to do surgery on them?

00:30:14.000 You know, I think it's important for me to admit that I don't really know, but I do think.

00:30:20.000 I appreciate the honesty.

00:30:22.000 But you would probably say six-year-old too much, right?

00:30:27.000 I honestly wouldn't know.

00:30:29.000 I wouldn't say one or the other, but I would say that I guess over 18, how do we say?

00:30:36.000 What?

00:30:37.000 Okay, so let's close every pediatric gender clinic in America and stop the chemical castration of our youth, which is exactly where we were 10 years ago.

00:30:46.000 I think we found a lot of agreement, my friend.

00:30:49.000 Oh, sorry?

00:30:50.000 I think we found agreement.

00:30:53.000 I don't really know either way on that one, but I guess over 18.

00:30:57.000 The crux of the debate in America today is focused on children.

00:31:00.000 Teenagers make mistakes.

00:31:02.000 Teenagers go through identity crises.

00:31:04.000 Teenagers are susceptible to social contagions.

00:31:08.000 Teenagers are susceptible to peer pressure or for other influences.

00:31:12.000 And the laws and the culture should reflect, let's say, an atmosphere that respects the innocence of the child and says, once you are of adulthood, you have certain agency and ability.

00:31:23.000 I might disagree with that, but I don't want to live in a country where an 11-year-old might be misled by a gender psychiatrist, has their breast chopped off, and wants to have that reversed in eight years.

00:31:35.000 I don't think that is loving.

00:31:37.000 I think that's cruel.

00:31:45.000 I guess I still raise the issue of, in total, the number of people who are committing suicide would probably be reduced if we allowed these surgeries.

00:31:57.000 Not necessarily.

00:31:58.000 So in the short term, yes, when you administer testosterone replacement therapy, you get a boost in self-esteem.

00:32:05.000 You get a temporary boost in mental clarity, but that actually tapers after about five or six years, which is why you see the transitioner community increasing.

00:32:14.000 I could see you're coming after this from a good place, but I want you to think about this in the days and the weeks and all of you to think, how young is too young?

00:32:22.000 I think that if you are in the teenage age, 12, 13, 14, and we're trying to say that we are so advanced, we're going to prescribe Lupron, which was called too inhumane for rapists in prison, to young boys that effectively chemically castrate themselves.

00:32:40.000 I think it is a rational, moral argument to say, let's make sure we don't do something irreversible to somebody that might be preyed upon.

00:32:48.000 I think that's rather fair and reasonable.

00:32:50.000 Unfortunately, that's considered radical enough where you have Antifa show up.

00:32:53.000 Thank you for coming tonight, and God bless you.

00:32:55.000 Thank you.

00:33:02.000 Hello, Charlie Kirk.

00:33:04.000 I've watched, I've been a longtime viewer.

00:33:07.000 I don't always agree with you, certainly on this particular issue.

00:33:11.000 So I'm an opponent of universal health care.

00:33:14.000 This would be Medicare for All.

00:33:15.000 I imagine, I mean, I know you're not.

00:33:17.000 You believe in the value of the for-profit health care system.

00:33:21.000 So I guess my question is, like, your argument is that the for-profit health care system, I guess, serves as a, you know, for innovation.

00:33:30.000 I want to know, like, what innovation does the healthcare, does the private for-profit health insurance provide to MediCo?

00:33:36.000 So I just want to make sure I understand your position.

00:33:38.000 Are you arguing for a single payer or for the government ownership and running of the healthcare industry?

00:33:44.000 Single payer, I guess, Medicare for All.

00:33:45.000 Got it.

00:33:46.000 Spending it to everyone else. 0.97

00:33:47.000 Yeah, that's a gateway to eventually getting to the government-run health care system.

00:33:51.000 But your critique is probably not wrong.

00:33:53.000 I have plenty of problems with our current health care system, right?

00:33:56.000 Some are driven solely by profit.

00:33:58.000 Some are driven by just bad regulation and honestly not enough profit drive.

00:34:03.000 So I'll give you a great example of a fruit of the free market of the last 10 or 15 years, okay?

00:34:09.000 LASIC.

00:34:10.000 LASIC eye surgery used to be considered a fringe idea that many people considered to be unfounded and not proven.

00:34:16.000 Insurance largely does not cover LASIC.

00:34:18.000 Entrepreneurs got into the industry, and LASIK is now the most performed eye surgery in America with great results and great benefits.

00:34:27.000 The price has gone down and the quality has gone up.

00:34:29.000 Now, that's one example of many, right?

00:34:31.000 And you'd be able to counter, you'd say, well, Charlie, why is it that you go to a hospital and they charge you way too much for like a Tylenol, $35 for a Tylenol?

00:34:40.000 Now, here's where I can agree with the spirit of the single payer people, which is we need to crush the hospital lobby in this country.

00:34:48.000 It is wrong the way these hospitals operate.

00:34:51.000 We need to mandate transparency and pricing.

00:34:54.000 If I have to go to Chipotle to see how many calories are in a burrito, I want to see how much everything costs at a hospital the minute I walk into that hospital.

00:35:02.000 Every consumer has a right to know what things cost, right?

00:35:06.000 And so at times I'm willing to yield on price transparency.

00:35:11.000 I'm even willing to say that in certain regards that there has been some major issues with, I am no fan, for example, of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson ⁇ Johnson.

00:35:26.000 And so I'm actually more of a moderate on it.

00:35:29.000 I will hesitate to say, though, the Medicare for all system, what it will do is it will turn the American health care system into a major college campus where nobody is actually paying for the good that they're getting.

00:35:39.000 One of the reasons why college is so wildly overpriced and why the quality has decreased is because we have single-payer higher education.

00:35:47.000 Many of you take out loans that the federal government is subsidizing and that you're not even directly invested in for a little while, scholarships, grants, and all that.

00:35:55.000 But I think the spirit of what you're saying is smart, and I will also be happy partners with you to crush big pharma.

00:36:02.000 I think they have way too much power in this country, and I think they actually make people super sick and not always healthy.

00:36:07.000 Your final thoughts?

00:36:09.000 So, I guess a follow-up question is: would you be in favor to have the government negotiate drug prices?

00:36:16.000 I think there might be a role for that.

00:36:17.000 I do.

00:36:18.000 And I wouldn't have said that five years ago.

00:36:19.000 The government would probably screw it up, but how could it be any worse than it is now?

00:36:23.000 I mean, again, I believe that Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson Johnson have done such deceitful and treacherous things, especially in the last couple of years.

00:36:33.000 I am open and willing to use the power of the state to start to make sure we're no longer owned by these pharmaceutical companies.

00:36:40.000 Thank you.

00:36:42.000 I've got to get to the next question.

00:36:43.000 Thank you, though.

00:36:45.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:36:46.000 I want to say, by starting off, I was told by your wonderful assistant over here that I should tell you that I disagree with almost everything.

00:36:52.000 Obviously, we've not had a two-hour discussion.

00:36:54.000 So, like, who knows?

00:36:55.000 Maybe we had a few beers.

00:36:55.000 Who knows?

00:36:57.000 We agree on something, but I'll have a stick of water.

00:36:59.000 You can have whatever you want.

00:37:00.000 All I've heard is stuff that I'm just like, what?

00:37:02.000 First, I want to say that I guess as the first part of your speech was you complaining about kind of these leftists and kind of this, but I've never heard any policy positions.

00:37:11.000 When I go to something like a Senator Sanders convention or someone on the left, they're talking about health care, inequality, inflation, growth.

00:37:18.000 But you guys all seem to want to talk about how the left does this or the left does that, but no policies on how to fix anything.

00:37:24.000 So I guess that kind of goes to my first question: is what is the GOP's actual position when it comes to fixing inflation?

00:37:30.000 Well, let me, a couple things.

00:37:31.000 First of all, I'm not a senator, nor am I aspiring to be one.

00:37:34.000 Number two, yes, I was mildly distracted by the windows being broken and the terrorists outside.

00:37:38.000 I fully acknowledge that.

00:37:40.000 So I was a little policy shallow tonight and a little bit terrorist deep.

00:37:44.000 I fully, I will admit that.

00:37:47.000 Third, I'll say this.

00:37:49.000 I don't speak for the GOP, right?

00:37:50.000 I have my own ideas, and I actually think the GOP does a terrible job.

00:37:55.000 But let me give you some ideas that I think you might agree with.

00:37:58.000 I think that vital products should be made in America, not in China.

00:38:02.000 And we should use tariffs and sanctions to get it done.

00:38:05.000 Vitamin C, penicillin, critical infrastructure should be manufactured here.

00:38:09.000 I think American college graduates should be given preference to go work for American companies above foreign workers. 0.79

00:38:15.000 And that means reforming the H-1B system and actually giving you, the American college-educated kids, a preference because we have a moral obligation to our own citizens over the citizens of another country.

00:38:25.000 I think we should fully close the United States southern border.

00:38:28.000 I think we should not allow illegal.

00:38:30.000 I just want to interrupt you.

00:38:31.000 Sorry, you were saying you're for a government program that puts American college students like the.

00:38:35.000 No, reforming the immigration system, right?

00:38:37.000 So that big companies like Facebook don't do quasi-indentured servitude to bring foreign workers in and be able to compete.

00:38:45.000 That would be a government program that would do that.

00:38:46.000 Well, yeah, the government program actually already exists.

00:38:48.000 Okay, so you're actually a conservative who's for increasing the government size, not for the program.

00:38:51.000 Well, no, I want a small but strong government, so I want things that are smart.

00:38:55.000 For example, I'd love to have more border patrol agents and less IRS agents.

00:38:58.000 So where it makes sense to increase the volume of government agents as long as it is pursuing a couple things that are core to my philosophy.

00:39:05.000 A strong country that has borders, sovereignty, culture, and maintains a moral commitment to its citizens that you should be able to work hard, play by the rules, be able to have a family, own a home, and see rising income and wages.

00:39:17.000 Those are very basic things in a social contract.

00:39:20.000 Why is the increasing IRS agents, which are taxes that Pay for things like roads, GPS, infrastructure, basic things that you and yourself needed to get here.

00:39:29.000 Why would that be against?

00:39:30.000 Why would that be so bad, having everyone pay their fair share of taxes so we can have a government that functions correctly?

00:39:34.000 Obviously, government doesn't work for everything, but we all benefit from government services every day.

00:39:38.000 I'm sorry, no one in this room is going to benefit from 87,000 new IRS agents.

00:39:42.000 And so those 87,000 new IRS agents are going to be deployed against small business owners.

00:39:47.000 But I could keep on going with policy examples.

00:39:49.000 I can keep on building it out.

00:39:50.000 But let me just say this: I love markets, but I'm willing to critique markets when I think they're not serving people and they're not serving the nation.

00:39:58.000 I think our overindulgence in free trade fanaticism has been a major mistake over the last 20 or 30 years.

00:40:04.000 I don't worship corporations, but I do think that entrepreneurs and private property rights and people taking risks are a general good for society.

00:40:13.000 And not only does history show this, but common sense logic and material reality shows all this.

00:40:18.000 I can give you more and more examples, if you want, of policy stuff.

00:40:22.000 That's less actually interesting.

00:40:23.000 The reason I don't go through policy stuff is, again, whoa, is that I'm not running for office, right?

00:40:28.000 I don't represent the Republican Party.

00:40:30.000 But if I can build out a worldview that you can agree with, then the policy answers will come naturally, right?

00:40:39.000 So if you understand morals and values, then you can answer the next 1,000 policy answers.

00:40:45.000 I care a lot more about policy than what people say.

00:40:47.000 Like, what government does is a lot more important to me.

00:40:48.000 And that's why I was confused why your speech was not about policy.

00:40:51.000 Because, again, I'm not running for office.

00:40:52.000 I want to ask one more question before we go.

00:40:54.000 I guess for us, there used to be a thing called the middle class, or the idea of a growing and strong middle class.

00:40:59.000 And I feel like for the past 10 years, especially on the right, maybe on the left too, for the more neoliberal left, but the right, that idea has kind of shrunken.

00:41:07.000 I don't think there's a lot of talk in the middle class.

00:41:09.000 Do you view income inequality as a problem?

00:41:10.000 I totally disagree.

00:41:12.000 I want to say income inequality being the difference.

00:41:14.000 Let me ask you, though, I have a question.

00:41:15.000 Why is it that the wealthiest counties in America all vote on the left?

00:41:19.000 Because that's where all the how money works and how capitalism works is how all the wealth is where all the people want to be.

00:41:27.000 So Silicon Valley is all the jobs.

00:41:28.000 Why do they vote liberal then if the left...

00:41:31.000 In what ways do they vote liberal?

00:41:32.000 Not on taxes, not on things that I'm voting for.

00:41:34.000 They vote for Joe Biden, they vote for Nancy Pelosi.

00:41:36.000 They're socially left, but they're not economically left.

00:41:38.000 Believe me, if you go to the Bay Area, they are very economically right.

00:41:41.000 Diane Feinstein is not left, in my opinion.

00:41:43.000 So it may be left socially, but I don't think they're left in my point of view.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, but so then let me ask you then, why is it that the muscular class in America has shifted right over the last seven years?

00:41:53.000 Not according to the midterms.

00:41:54.000 I mean, you guys tanked on the midterms mostly.

00:41:56.000 You keep on saying you guys.

00:41:57.000 I don't represent the Republican Party.

00:41:59.000 But I just want to critique one of your misguided premises, which is that somehow the right is not representing middle-class voters.

00:42:07.000 It's the opposite.

00:42:08.000 Actually, states that are traditionally blue-collar, muscular-class, middle-class states are now solid red states.

00:42:14.000 Look at Ohio.

00:42:15.000 Ohio is a state that used to be far left, and now it's more in the right direction.

00:42:18.000 So what is the right actually doing about it to answer your question?

00:42:21.000 A couple things.

00:42:22.000 We're rejecting neoliberalism.

00:42:23.000 Like, how about this?

00:42:24.000 We shouldn't send $200 billion to Ukraine, and we should instead represent our own people and close our own border. 0.97

00:42:31.000 That's number one.

00:42:32.000 Number two is that we should be unafraid to use tariffs and sanctions to say that critical infrastructure and things that matter should be made here in America.

00:42:41.000 The delusion on the left, and I just want to challenge you on this, is that the left has a bunch of people that talk a good game, AOC and Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden, but when it really matters, they're nothing more than neoliberal shills that are willing to invade other countries, invite them into our country, and then lie to their voters under the veneer of social liberalism.

00:43:02.000 The populist movement in America that represents real people, muscular class teachers, police officers, and firefighters, it lives on the American right because we listen to our constituents and we're willing to fight for ideas like tariffs, sanctions, closed border, and no more money to Ukraine.

00:43:18.000 The left is shilling for all those things.

00:43:19.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:43:21.000 Got to get into the next one.

00:43:21.000 I appreciate it.

00:43:22.000 Thank you.

00:43:23.000 Can I just ask, is the difference between the mean and medium?

00:43:25.000 Income and above all.

00:43:27.000 50 people in life.

00:43:28.000 Thank you.

00:43:29.000 Income inequality is a big issue, which is exactly why I support the things that I said. 1.00

00:43:33.000 Next question.

00:43:35.000 Hi, I'm a liberal.

00:43:38.000 I'm Democrat voting.

00:43:40.000 I'm very strong in my beliefs about a certain set.

00:43:50.000 I have a very strong belief in a certain set of principles.

00:43:55.000 I probably disagree with a lot of your principles.

00:43:59.000 I disagree with conservativism and usually right-wing conservative beliefs.

00:44:08.000 The reason I'm here tonight is my son is very right-wing conservative.

00:44:15.000 You have a very smart son.

00:44:21.000 And he doesn't drink.

00:44:22.000 He's only 20.

00:44:23.000 Watch it.

00:44:26.000 And the reason that I'm here is because I raised him to believe and think for himself, to look at both sides and come up with his own opinion.

00:44:40.000 And he kind of didn't come up with Bernie, okay, I can live with that, but I absolutely stand behind his right to think what he is free to think.

00:44:56.000 And I don't need to break windows.

00:44:59.000 That's not a model for what I believe in liberalism.

00:45:03.000 There's a lot of liberals who are very upset about that.

00:45:07.000 So my question to you is, in my sense of accepting and loving my son, it's different.

00:45:16.000 He's my family.

00:45:18.000 I also believe, for example, one example is LGBTQ adults, not trans kids.

00:45:26.000 I'm going to get that argument.

00:45:29.000 But LGBTQ adults who are happily in relationships and married, who are behind what they believe in. 1.00

00:45:39.000 And it doesn't necessarily coincide with the Bible.

00:45:44.000 It doesn't coincide with two genders.

00:45:47.000 I believe that people have the freedom to express themselves and they don't want to be in two genders. 1.00

00:45:55.000 They have a different point of view because they looked at both sides.

00:45:59.000 They came up and they have the freedom to believe what they want.

00:46:03.000 So how do you, my question to you is: how, in your belief of two genders, do you accept people who don't believe that?

00:46:13.000 Well, yeah, I just asked the question.

00:46:14.000 I would ask it of you. 1.00

00:46:15.000 What is a woman?

00:46:18.000 For me personally, I am a woman, and I believe.

00:46:24.000 But what is that?

00:46:25.000 Don't answer the question with the question, like, what is the vocab term woman define it?

00:46:30.000 That I align myself as a mother and what the women in my life and the feminine values of being more relationship oriented, less competitive, mothering, caring about someone ahead of myself.

00:46:57.000 So those are values that I, feminist values that I believe in, and I believe I can be a woman.

00:47:06.000 I don't have, I wasn't born with a male body, but I believe that I am a woman based on feminine principles.

00:47:19.000 Those and other values.

00:47:20.000 Your view, somebody can choose to be what they want to be.

00:47:23.000 Yes.

00:47:24.000 Okay, can I be a bobcat?

00:47:27.000 Well, and more than that argument, I want to get more into your beliefs.

00:47:34.000 Let me ask you another question.

00:47:35.000 Can I be whatever age I want to be?

00:47:39.000 The response to that really is not exactly what my question's about.

00:47:45.000 Well, you're asking about my view on the LGBT, and I'm getting there.

00:47:48.000 I'm just trying to understand.

00:47:50.000 And as an example, people who don't believe that there are two genders, just in general, who are disagreeing with you.

00:47:58.000 And you are one of those people, so I'm trying to get to some form of understanding and clarity.

00:48:02.000 So do you think that having agreed-upon objective reality on age is important?

00:48:02.000 Okay.

00:48:08.000 Yeah, but that's not within the concept of gender.

00:48:12.000 Well, but why is that different? 0.98

00:48:13.000 Why does reality stop when gender gets discussed? 0.74

00:48:17.000 Because I'm not thinking about people of different ages.

00:48:20.000 Why not? 0.92

00:48:21.000 If a 30-year-old thinks he's 14, he should be able to be able to have sex with a 12-year-old, right? 0.94

00:48:26.000 No, this is more about gender. 0.92

00:48:29.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:48:30.000 Well, but I have a limit.

00:48:31.000 But gender is gender is a what?

00:48:33.000 Where does that limit come from?

00:48:34.000 And why do you believe in the limit for age, but not for biology?

00:48:39.000 Because I feel that gender is an aspect of somebody they can believe in being able to be in more than one gender.

00:48:49.000 I don't believe that age falls into that.

00:48:52.000 I believe this is more about a gender that people are able to choose.

00:48:58.000 You're saying, though, that gender is a personal feeling or belief that somebody has about their existence.

00:49:05.000 Regardless of...

00:49:06.000 Within gender, there's some things that they don't like being an animal or being not a person.

00:49:11.000 Right, but the moral premise of that is that your biology, your chromosomes, do not dictate your reality, correct?

00:49:17.000 I don't know.

00:49:18.000 Do I have to know the answer to that in order to honor the fact that somebody else believes that they are choosing to be a person?

00:49:25.000 I'll tell you why and what I believe.

00:49:27.000 Do I have to agree with that?

00:49:29.000 Well, not a matter of agreeing.

00:49:30.000 In order to be able to identify.

00:49:32.000 You can have whatever opinion you want, but the truth is what I'm trying to articulate.

00:49:37.000 It doesn't matter what you believe.

00:49:39.000 Somebody is born a man. 1.00

00:49:40.000 They don't stop being a man if they appropriate womanhood. 0.98

00:49:44.000 If I wore blackface right now, I don't become black.

00:49:49.000 If a man decides to all of a sudden dress in a dress, he doesn't become a woman, nor should you force other people to reaccommodate society.

00:49:56.000 If they want to think that in their private time or in their own mind, it's kind of weird and strange, I guess.

00:50:02.000 Go ahead and do it.

00:50:03.000 But that's not the debate we're having in America right now.

00:50:05.000 The debate we're having, and I'd love your final thoughts on this, is a biological man is able to compete against biological women in NCAA sports and win the national championship in swimming.

00:50:17.000 Do you think that's fair?

00:50:19.000 I don't think that.

00:50:20.000 That's not part of my personal beliefs.

00:50:23.000 Okay, so let's maybe just go for gay and lesbian couples who are successful.

00:50:29.000 I mean, just because I really want to know the answer, and I kind of know where that's headed, and I don't agree about men playing in women's sports or...

00:50:37.000 Hey, we agree on that.

00:50:38.000 So when I say that, you understand that the liberals that you identify with call you a bigot for that belief, right?

00:50:46.000 Not the liberals that are my friends, and not all liberals believe that.

00:50:51.000 Yeah, that's shocking.

00:50:52.000 I'd love to meet them.

00:50:53.000 So, secondly, though, on the other part, as far as they're all in their 60s, let me see, my friends.

00:50:59.000 On the LGBT thing, and I want to get to as many questions as possible.

00:51:03.000 What does somebody's own personal sexual orientation have to do with lumping in a bunch of letters with somebody that is suffering from gender dysphoria?

00:51:12.000 Those are two separate issues.

00:51:13.000 Don't you think we should divide them?

00:51:15.000 No, I think that there are people who have healthy homosexual relationships who identify that way who aren't in favor of some of the things that you're doing.

00:51:26.000 You misunderstood the question.

00:51:27.000 What I'm trying to say is that for a while it was gay activism and now it's LGBTQIA plus.

00:51:33.000 It just keeps on growing and this kind of social contagion of left-wing activism.

00:51:41.000 Let me just tell you my position very clearly, okay?

00:51:44.000 Everybody's made in the image of God.

00:51:45.000 That's my first, that's my moral, my first premise.

00:51:48.000 We all have a soul.

00:51:49.000 You could disagree at that.

00:51:50.000 The American founders believed every single human being had a soul, and that is a fact.

00:51:54.000 I believe that marriage is an institution and a tradition that should be between one man and one woman. 0.95

00:52:01.000 Marriage, in an ideal world, the state would have a limited role in that.

00:52:06.000 But I don't believe that diluting or destroying the institution of marriage or the vocabulary or the truth behind it does it any justice for anybody.

00:52:17.000 And you must understand what a word means and what is the purpose of that word.

00:52:21.000 And having been married, I can understand that marriage is about opposites getting along to do something bigger than themselves.

00:52:29.000 The big issue in the gay marriage debate, and some conservatives disagree, is that you don't have two opposites.

00:52:34.000 You have two alikes that are coming, two people that are alike coming together.

00:52:38.000 That's not what marriage is.

00:52:39.000 You could call it something else. 1.00

00:52:40.000 That's not marriage.

00:52:41.000 In fact, I think it actually destroys and diminishes the beautiful institution of marriage in our country.

00:52:47.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:52:48.000 Thank you.

00:52:48.000 I appreciate it.

00:52:52.000 Thank you, Charlie, for coming out tonight.

00:52:54.000 And I'm going to go a little longer.

00:52:56.000 Is that okay with you guys?

00:52:56.000 Is that okay, guys?

00:52:57.000 All right.

00:53:01.000 Okay, my question is short.

00:53:04.000 Should America be a more isolationist nation to aid in the interests of the American people?

00:53:11.000 Depends on the situation.

00:53:12.000 Give me an example.

00:53:14.000 Wars in the Middle East, wars with Iran, wars in Ukraine, wars in Yemen.

00:53:22.000 I would limit funding all across the board on those, yeah.

00:53:24.000 What was that?

00:53:25.000 I think that our role should be limited in all those, especially with Ukraine.

00:53:28.000 We shouldn't give a dime to what's happening in Ukraine.

00:53:31.000 Especially as our own border remains wide open.

00:53:34.000 What was that?

00:53:34.000 What was that, Charlie?

00:53:35.000 Especially as our own border remains completely and totally wide open and 5,000 people are entering illegally every day.

00:53:41.000 I find it silly that D.C. gets really mad that Ukraine's border gets invaded and our border gets invaded every day.

00:53:47.000 But sorry, do you have a follow-up thought?

00:53:49.000 Nope.

00:53:50.000 That was it.

00:53:51.000 Thank you.

00:53:52.000 And by the way, if you disagree, you're welcome to come to the front of the line.

00:53:55.000 Let it be known that evil fascist Charlie Kirk wants people who hate him to come to the front of the line.

00:53:55.000 The staff will help you.

00:53:59.000 Next.

00:54:01.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:54:01.000 My name is Cole.

00:54:03.000 I think I agree with you.

00:54:05.000 I just wanted to ask with how much our school systems have changed since even when I was a kid, I'm only 20, what is the best way to shield our younger children from falling into the mindset that they're trying to teach the very I get the question a lot.

00:54:24.000 Thank you.

00:54:24.000 If you're able to homeschool, I'm a big fan of homeschooling.

00:54:27.000 I am, and I know that's very difficult.

00:54:30.000 And then I think you have to find good private schools, if not that.

00:54:33.000 And if you have to send them the government schools, you have to fight for better schools and better school boards and stay involved in those school districts at every possible way you can.

00:54:40.000 And so there's no easy answer.

00:54:43.000 But you know what the most important time is?

00:54:45.000 It's not the time in the classroom.

00:54:46.000 It's the time that your kids have with you at home.

00:54:49.000 Turn off all the devices on the weekend and talk about the Constitution.

00:54:53.000 Talk about the founding.

00:54:54.000 Talk about the Civil War.

00:54:56.000 Become your child's teacher, regardless of where you send them to school.

00:55:00.000 Homeschooling is not just doing it Monday through Friday.

00:55:04.000 Homeschooling is a 24-7, 365 operation where you're constantly educating your children about American values, hopefully Judeo-Christian values as well.

00:55:13.000 So that would be my advice to you.

00:55:15.000 God bless you.

00:55:15.000 Thank you.

00:55:20.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:55:21.000 I am a former classical liberal, turned libertarian, turned conservative.

00:55:26.000 Hey, that's a great arc.

00:55:30.000 Largely thanks to guys like you and Ben Shapiro, so thank you.

00:55:34.000 I was wondering about a couple of things that I've heard you say pretty strongly over the last several months.

00:55:39.000 The first one is your pretty much unequivocal support of Donald Trump for 2024.

00:55:44.000 I assume you still feel that way, right?

00:55:45.000 Correct.

00:55:46.000 The second thing is your talk about the RNC leadership and more specifically Rhonda McDaniel.

00:55:46.000 Okay.

00:55:53.000 I heard you say on your show that she's always been very nice to you, very sweet person.

00:55:57.000 I don't care.

00:55:58.000 I want to win.

00:55:59.000 I assume you still feel that way?

00:56:00.000 Okay.

00:56:00.000 I do.

00:56:01.000 So if in the next year and a half or so you find yourself objectively thinking that a different candidate, whether it's DeSantis or somebody else, would give us a better chance to defeat the Democrats, how would you reconcile your sense of loyalty with your desire to win?

00:56:16.000 I'm going to answer this personally, not on behalf of Torney Point USA, tax status stuff.

00:56:16.000 Thoughtful question.

00:56:20.000 Everyone understand that.

00:56:21.000 Thank you.

00:56:21.000 Recorded catalog.

00:56:22.000 This is Charlie speaking personally.

00:56:24.000 Got it?

00:56:24.000 Thank you.

00:56:26.000 So yes, I'm supporting Donald Trump in 2024.

00:56:29.000 I'm doing so enthusiastically.

00:56:33.000 I wouldn't say that it's loyalty, but I do have a friendship with him, so there is a fair amount of kind of familiarity there.

00:56:39.000 And so I'm very biased, and he's been very, very good to me.

00:56:41.000 But he also did a fabulous job for this country.

00:56:43.000 And every day, especially in the last 30 days, I am just reminded of how awful this country is being run in more ways than one.

00:56:51.000 But look, here's what I'll say about the other candidates.

00:56:53.000 They're all welcome on my show, every single one of them.

00:56:55.000 They'll get uninterrupted time.

00:56:57.000 I'm a really big believer and supporter of Ron DeSantis.

00:57:00.000 I don't know where he's going to fall, but I think America is lucky to have Governor DeSantis, and I think he has been America's greatest governor.

00:57:09.000 And so I personally do not, I do not support going negative on Ron DeSantis.

00:57:15.000 I don't think it's good form.

00:57:15.000 I don't like it.

00:57:17.000 And it actually kind of bothers me, I'll be honest.

00:57:19.000 And I say that as an open Trump supporter.

00:57:21.000 But yeah, look, you've asked me a hypothetical, and I've learned not to answer hypotheticals because there's too many questions in the future.

00:57:28.000 But here's what I can say, question you're directly.

00:57:31.000 I think Trump has had a great last 30 days.

00:57:33.000 It seems he's really hitting his stride.

00:57:35.000 He's talking a great game on foreign policy.

00:57:38.000 He recently, I thought his visit in East Palestine, Ohio was fabulous.

00:57:42.000 My personal opinion, it's time for MAGA season two.

00:57:44.000 MAGA season one was big rallies and big things.

00:57:47.000 I think he's got to go super small and just show up at like random homes and living rooms and just like go through and just talk with people in front of fireplaces.

00:57:55.000 He is the best unscripted in personal one-on-one environments.

00:57:59.000 It's fine.

00:58:00.000 Okay, we know the big rallies.

00:58:01.000 We know all this.

00:58:02.000 He's funny.

00:58:03.000 He's charming.

00:58:04.000 He's compassionate.

00:58:05.000 He's tough and he's direct.

00:58:07.000 And I think the more people see that side of Trump, they actually are like, wow, okay, we get the rally thing.

00:58:12.000 This guy's a leader who cares, that can win over people one by one, but also millions by millions.

00:58:17.000 But I understand there's a lot of disagreements in the primary.

00:58:20.000 I think it's a good thing if DeSantis runs.

00:58:21.000 I think it's a good thing that Vivek runs.

00:58:23.000 I think primaries are healthy.

00:58:24.000 I think it will actually make Trump stronger in the end.

00:58:26.000 God bless you.

00:58:27.000 Thank you.

00:58:32.000 Hi.

00:58:33.000 I know you're generally in favor of smaller governments.

00:58:37.000 Can you make sure you go right into the microphone?

00:58:37.000 My question is.

00:58:39.000 I'm sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you.

00:58:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:40.000 Yeah.

00:58:42.000 I know you're in favor in small government for a lot of issues.

00:58:46.000 I know that drugs are a big issue in America.

00:58:50.000 I was wondering what was your perspective on recreational drugs in general, the legalization of drugs, and just what your perspective on that was.

00:59:00.000 The mass legalization of drugs has been a major mistake in our country.

00:59:00.000 Sure.

00:59:04.000 I used to be for it, and I have had 180-degree reversal, and I'll tell you why.

00:59:08.000 I believe in a small but strong government with prudent and effective and, let's just say, common sense laws.

00:59:14.000 I used to be one of those guys that was a conservative that said, if we really want to reduce government and make the cartels weaker, let's legalize weed, and that will really make the cartels weaker.

00:59:23.000 And then we'll have less people in prison.

00:59:25.000 Everything I believed was completely incorrect.

00:59:27.000 Let me tell you why.

00:59:28.000 As we've legalized weed, especially in the American Southwest, we've seen more violent crime, not less.

00:59:33.000 The cartels are wealthier and stronger than ever before.

00:59:35.000 One of the arguments was, well, kids now are going to be able to not do harder drugs.

00:59:39.000 That's not true.

00:59:40.000 Kids are now getting into fentanyl and harder drugs earlier because whether or not we want to admit it, marijuana is a gateway drug.

00:59:46.000 That is a true fact.

00:59:48.000 Kids don't just start with fentanyl.

00:59:49.000 They start with marijuana and it goes to other drugs, and we see that happen time and time again.

00:59:53.000 So actually, I believe that the decriminalization of weed has been something that actually makes government bigger.

01:00:01.000 We now need more social workers.

01:00:03.000 We now need more services.

01:00:05.000 We're now giving more people things on welfare, money on welfare.

01:00:09.000 And so while I understand the spirit and potentially the principality, the principle of legalizing or decriminalizing drugs, we have to look at the evidence.

01:00:21.000 And the evidence is that we live in a sadder society, a more depressed society, a more anxious society, a more violent society, the more that drug use has gone up over the last decade.

01:00:34.000 Can I ask a follow-up question?

01:00:35.000 I was wondering if, in what ways you said that the cartel has become stronger with the legalization of marijuana?

01:00:42.000 I was just wondering, like, what are the reasons for that?

01:00:45.000 So they're no longer in the business of growing weed in the Sinaola region, so now they traffic fentanyl and people.

01:00:50.000 It's much more profitable and much more dangerous and murderous.

01:00:53.000 So we basically told the cartel, stop trafficking the thing that actually wasn't as bad.

01:00:57.000 It's bad, okay?

01:00:59.000 And now they've gotten into really rich business where they get $5,000 a head when they traffic them across the Rio Grande Valley and they're doing $5,000 a day.

01:01:07.000 Or they get fentany trafficked in from China, that this much of fentanyl, like a salt grain of fentanyl, will kill your grandkid almost instantaneously.

01:01:15.000 And so now the fentanyl is the cartels are bigger and stronger than ever before.

01:01:18.000 They're more brazen and bold than ever before.

01:01:21.000 They're kidnapping and killing Americans. 0.98

01:01:22.000 They're controlling the entire Mexican government. 0.53

01:01:24.000 The border is now completely controlled by the cartel.

01:01:27.000 And we were told that drug legalization would make the cartels irrelevant the same way that the legalization of alcohol made the mob less powerful in the 30s.

01:01:37.000 That was a lie, by the way.

01:01:38.000 The mob just went into a different business, okay?

01:01:41.000 It's not like they stopped committing violent crime, and it's just not true.

01:01:44.000 The cartels are running the entire southwestern part of the border and many parts of the southwestern United States.

01:01:51.000 Last follow-up question with that.

01:01:52.000 I see your point that the legalization of marijuana has increased drug abuse and has increased the demand for things like fentanyl and heroin and stuff.

01:02:00.000 I was wondering, I guess, like, why is making things like alcohol illegal, but making things like marijuana illegal?

01:02:08.000 Why is alcohol more acceptable than marijuana, for example?

01:02:11.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not exactly a big fan of alcohol.

01:02:14.000 I actually think alcohol is a really bad drug, and we overly glamorize alcohol in our society.

01:02:19.000 I think we'd do some good to actually limit alcohol intake.

01:02:22.000 I think it would actually make people's lives better.

01:02:24.000 And I think we've waive over socialized drinking in our country.

01:02:27.000 Now, that's a separate argument, though, because that's making something that's currently legal illegal.

01:02:31.000 We're talking about making something that's illegal legal, right?

01:02:34.000 So those are two separate things.

01:02:35.000 But if you were to say, wave a magic wand and people would drink less in America, I'd say, sign me up for that.

01:02:40.000 Because, I mean, if you look at the amount of DUIs, violent crime, if you look at domestic assault, alcohol is almost always involved, almost always.

01:02:49.000 So I would say this: right now, the question is on marijuana, and it has been proven right now to have massive externalities that are negative.

01:02:58.000 Over 70,000 people died of fentanyl overdoses last year, right?

01:03:02.000 And over 140,000 people die from the effects of alcohol every single year.

01:03:06.000 Now, I'll be the most unpopular public commentator on the planet to argue for a ban or an abolition of alcohol, but let me just say this.

01:03:13.000 Someone needs to have the courage to say the amount we drink in our country is bad for us, and it's making us deeply unhappy.

01:03:19.000 I appreciate it.

01:03:19.000 Thank you.

01:03:20.000 Thank you.

01:03:21.000 Thank you.

01:03:24.000 Hi.

01:03:25.000 So as someone who claims to be such a bastion of freedom of speech, why do you call the protesters outside terrorists, outside of, say, one broken window?

01:03:38.000 Well, it's more than one broken window, assaulting cops, spray painting the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation, the graffiti.

01:03:47.000 But that's not, don't you think it's bigoted to call all protesters who are outside as terrorists when a handful of minority might be representing some of the things that we're doing?

01:03:58.000 Why would it be bigoted?

01:03:59.000 They're mostly white liberals without jobs.

01:04:01.000 Sorry?

01:04:03.000 Why is it bigoted? 0.97

01:04:04.000 They're mostly white liberals without jobs.

01:04:07.000 But you're calling all protesters terrorists?

01:04:11.000 I'm calling Antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity, sending death threats to my family, smashing windows, and spray painting the campus the entire week leading up to this terrorist.

01:04:20.000 Yes, I absolutely stand by that.

01:04:22.000 But that wouldn't.

01:04:25.000 A lot of them are just college students who don't agree with the point of view that you're propagating.

01:04:30.000 Maybe they should have come to the front of the line and asked a question like you and not acted like somebody in a third world country where they settle their differences with gang violence.

01:04:40.000 But just to be sure, those people who are there to register their protest aren't terrorists.

01:04:44.000 Okay, the terrorist definition is a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

01:04:51.000 Did they do that?

01:04:54.000 I don't think.

01:04:55.000 I don't think so.

01:04:56.000 Wait, hold on.

01:04:57.000 A person unlawfully violent, window smashing, graffiti, assaulting police officers.

01:05:02.000 Not all of them.

01:05:04.000 Hold on a second.

01:05:05.000 The leaders, they cover for themselves.

01:05:08.000 And by the way, only a small of them are isolated, and they're all in one big black block. 0.74

01:05:12.000 And don't try to gaslight the people here or the people watching online.

01:05:18.000 There's hundreds of them.

01:05:19.000 They're working in a coordinated network with coordinated tactics.

01:05:22.000 And these are not just quote-unquote college kids.

01:05:25.000 There's obviously somebody behind this with funding and sophistication, with quasi-paramilitary tactics.

01:05:30.000 And let me ask you a question.

01:05:32.000 Why is it that when people go into the United States Capitol and take a selfie, they're called terrorists by our government.

01:05:38.000 But when you start to terrorize and smash windows and put violent threats and death threats to me, it's somehow bigoted to call them terrorists.

01:05:46.000 So first of all, it's not, it wasn't a coordinated effort as someone who was there.

01:05:52.000 I just knew that there was this event happening and that there would be a protest in order to register our point of view.

01:06:00.000 I was not part of any coordinated effort and neither were a lot of the other people who were there.

01:06:05.000 We don't appreciate the label of being terrorists, especially a lot of us are from countries where you shouldn't appreciate the label or the activity.

01:06:13.000 Why don't you come here and say, you know, I'm pretty damn embarrassed that people that agree with me resort to violence instead of going up here and trying to lecture me about calling them terrorists?

01:06:23.000 But this isn't about.

01:06:23.000 Absolutely.

01:06:24.000 You're making a fool of yourself. 0.99

01:06:26.000 Why don't you go out and talk to your buddies and tell them to stop trying to shut down our event? 0.99

01:06:30.000 So I don't know why your response is always a what about ism.

01:06:33.000 And I'm just asking you if you're asking questions you can't answer ism.

01:06:38.000 What?

01:06:39.000 I've answered each of your questions.

01:06:41.000 I'm just saying everyone is part of the family.

01:06:43.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:06:45.000 Will you publicly condemn the violence done in the political spirit outside by the people that you were protesting alongside?

01:06:52.000 Will you do that right now?

01:06:53.000 It depends what you're referring to.

01:06:54.000 Smashing of windows and assaulting police officers.

01:06:56.000 Breaking windows is a good idea.

01:06:58.000 Assaulting police officers.

01:06:59.000 Do you condemn them?

01:07:00.000 I've assaulted police officers.

01:07:01.000 You was there.

01:07:02.000 No one assaulted police officers.

01:07:03.000 That's lie.

01:07:04.000 That's not true.

01:07:05.000 Throwing eggs and objects at police officers is a legal definition of assault, no matter how much you try to gaslight it or spin it.

01:07:11.000 If I can just, without resorting to what aboutism, using your definition of terrorism, if the police uses unjust violence against civilians, should that also count as terrorism?

01:07:27.000 Absolutely not.

01:07:28.000 But first of all, your definition of unjust.

01:07:29.000 I'm just taking your definition.

01:07:31.000 Let me read this again.

01:07:31.000 No, no, no.

01:07:33.000 Unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims.

01:07:39.000 And Tifa doesn't just do this here.

01:07:41.000 They did this in Sacramento and assaulted one of our Turning Point USA employees and sent one of them to the hospital.

01:07:46.000 And Tifa, oh, by the way, the same buddies, the same tactics, the same coordination, the same wardrobe, the same language, the same signs, you know what they did two weeks ago?

01:07:54.000 They arsoned and firebombed an entire police training headquarters in Georgia in massive coordinated fashion.

01:08:01.000 And so right now what we are seeing is the rise of left-wing domestic violent extremism, and the failure to acknowledge or admit it means that you are blinded by ideology.

01:08:11.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:08:12.000 We'll get to the next one.

01:08:20.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:08:21.000 Wait.

01:08:22.000 I just want to say I don't exactly agree with you on everything, but it was a great speech, and I did like hearing your points.

01:08:29.000 And there are some things that we did agree on.

01:08:30.000 For example, big pharma.

01:08:31.000 I totally agree with you on that.

01:08:33.000 But my question isn't related to that.

01:08:35.000 So, well, first I want to ask you, so what is your stance on guns in terms of gun control?

01:08:41.000 I think I know, but I mean, I'm very pro-Second Amendment.

01:08:44.000 Okay.

01:08:44.000 Right.

01:08:44.000 So, you know, against gun control.

01:08:47.000 Right.

01:08:47.000 Making guns legal.

01:08:48.000 Yeah, no.

01:08:49.000 So you believe, I'm assuming that by making guns illegal, criminals are still going to get their hands on guns, correct?

01:08:58.000 Yes, but let me tell you my position, okay?

01:09:01.000 The Second Amendment is there to protect all the other amendments against a potentially tyrannical government.

01:09:06.000 If we act as if that has not happened in history, we're not even reading our 20th century history.

01:09:10.000 I fully acknowledge and admit when you allow gun ownership, you're going to have gun deaths. 0.67

01:09:14.000 There is a cost to liberty.

01:09:15.000 Anybody who, if you argue for Second Amendment rights and say that you're going to get gun deaths to zero, that is a falsehood.

01:09:23.000 That is also why I support driving.

01:09:25.000 I think driving is a moral good, but you're going to have 50,000 people a year that die in auto fatalities.

01:09:31.000 Liberty comes at a price.

01:09:32.000 And so I believe that, yes, there will be costs and consequences of having firearm ownership, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.

01:09:38.000 Please ask your question, though.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, so it's actually kind of to do with using that same logic, right?

01:09:44.000 If criminals will get their hands on the guns anyway, there's no point in banning them, then by that same logic, should we not legalize marijuana?

01:09:50.000 Because won't the kids get their hands on it anyway from either like people who are older or criminals?

01:09:56.000 Just using that same logic, would it make sense to then also ban marijuana?

01:09:59.000 So two things.

01:10:00.000 So I didn't actually use the criminals will get their hands on it.

01:10:03.000 It happens to be true.

01:10:04.000 But the other part is that the evidence shows the opposite.

01:10:07.000 That kids are doing more weed than ever before.

01:10:08.000 It's now laced with things it was not laced with a couple decades ago.

01:10:12.000 It's stronger than ever before.

01:10:13.000 And we were told that, well, if it's accessible and it's commercialized, kids will be less likely to do weed.

01:10:19.000 The usership of kids under 12, 50% in a national survey of kids 10 to 13 have tested with some form of cannabis or marijuana.

01:10:27.000 That's a bad thing for the country.

01:10:28.000 It's not good.

01:10:30.000 And the more we've legalized it, the more we glamorize it, the more we normalize it, the more we have kids doing marijuana.

01:10:37.000 And here's the other thing.

01:10:38.000 I don't see a moral good for marijuana.

01:10:40.000 I do see a moral good for private citizen firearm ownership.

01:10:44.000 So the equivalent is not one-to-one.

01:10:47.000 I understand.

01:10:48.000 Thank you.

01:10:49.000 Appreciate it.

01:10:49.000 Thanks.

01:10:50.000 We'll do a couple more.

01:10:51.000 And if you disagree, tell our staff.

01:10:54.000 Come on up.

01:10:57.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:10:58.000 So I just first wanted to comment quickly on the guy who was defending the protesters outside.

01:11:04.000 So I'm the vice president of the UC Davis Turning Point Chapter.

01:11:13.000 And the same people who organized those protests outside have put my name on flyers and my face on flyers for my social media, put it all over campus, wheat-pasted it so it's glued to the wall. 0.88

01:11:24.000 And they've called me a homophobic fascist, a bigot.

01:11:27.000 They've said I'm not welcome on this campus, and they've published my phone number and email so that people could be able to harass me.

01:11:34.000 So if unlawful intimidation in the pursuit of political aims is the definition of terrorism, I'd say even that probably falls into the definition. 0.83

01:11:42.000 That's exactly right.

01:11:43.000 That alone is terrorism, right?

01:11:45.000 Thank you for your courage.

01:11:47.000 What's your question?

01:11:48.000 Yeah, so then the other point I had, I had a question for you, probably an easier one than a few of the other ones.

01:11:55.000 But so the left, as we can see, has really serious positions for the future.

01:12:01.000 They have really serious opinions and hopes and visions for the future of the U.S. Serious enough that they're willing to organize into groups of hundreds and break things and burn things down.

01:12:11.000 And we on the right, that gives us lots of time to talk about it and make fun of it and make compilations and whatnot.

01:12:18.000 And that's all good and funny and entertaining.

01:12:20.000 And that sort of roped me in at some point.

01:12:23.000 But what is our vision for the future?

01:12:26.000 What are we willing to get that passionate about?

01:12:28.000 It's a great question.

01:12:29.000 So three really basic things that I think should be a commitment to the next generation.

01:12:33.000 It should be easy and celebrated to get married, have children, and be able to own property in this country.

01:12:39.000 It should be a moral guarantee to the next generation to be able to do those three things.

01:12:42.000 It's good for everybody.

01:12:44.000 It anchors you in responsibility, right?

01:12:46.000 Right now, it is harder than ever to buy a home in America thanks to inflation and thanks to all this nonsense that's happening.

01:12:51.000 We are telling young people not to get married and we're saying that if you have children, it could be an existential threat to the climate.

01:12:57.000 And we wonder why this is the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, alcohol-addicted, and Medicaid generation in history. 0.97

01:13:03.000 Those three things should be a core social compact.

01:13:06.000 I could go through list by list, though, right?

01:13:07.000 I want a country that cares more about our borders than the borders of a foreign country. 0.54

01:13:11.000 I want a country that makes stuff that is critical to our national sovereignty and our future, such as vitamin C, penicillin, actually made here in America.

01:13:20.000 And finally, well, not finally, but in addition, I'll say this.

01:13:23.000 I want to see church attendance go up.

01:13:25.000 I want to see less kids addicted to pornography.

01:13:27.000 I want to see more people outside.

01:13:29.000 I want to see people spending less time on their phones.

01:13:32.000 I think we should entertain at least the spirit of a national week day of rest.

01:13:37.000 I call it the Sabbath.

01:13:38.000 You can call it whatever you want.

01:13:39.000 I think we should have a day where we slow down.

01:13:41.000 I think that we're able to get Uber Eats quicker than ever before.

01:13:43.000 We're able to get medication we want.

01:13:44.000 We have more ease and convenience that we're more miserable than ever before.

01:13:48.000 Why don't we actually tolerate?

01:13:49.000 We don't have to do laws, even though laws might be a good idea, where we just rest for a day.

01:13:53.000 We used to call these blue laws, where everything kind of slows down.

01:13:55.000 We spend time with loved ones.

01:13:57.000 You don't look at the phone all day long.

01:13:58.000 Maybe your favorite restaurant isn't open that day.

01:14:00.000 Maybe you actually have to cook for yourself.

01:14:02.000 I want that country.

01:14:03.000 I want a country that actually is purposeful in our action, in our community, that is more local than it is corporate, that focuses more on the family than some abstract ideology.

01:14:12.000 That's what I think we as conservatives need to fight for and fight for vigorously while they do all the nonsense that they do.

01:14:18.000 I just want to follow up.

01:14:19.000 We got to get to the next one.

01:14:20.000 I'm sorry.

01:14:20.000 Thank you.

01:14:23.000 Thanks so much for taking time out to come to California, even though you might hate it here.

01:14:29.000 I guess we could say I take the scenic route to conservatism.

01:14:34.000 Second generation college student.

01:14:36.000 I went to an HBCU actually in Washington, D.C., doing some work now in the public sector for the government.

01:14:41.000 So I'd like to get your take on how someone that might look like me or come from my socioeconomic background can find a home in conservatism.

01:14:51.000 Or, if not conservatism, where can someone who might find themselves in the gray area go if they don't fall into one camp or the other?

01:14:59.000 Well, let me tell you, you have a home in the conservative movement if I have anything to say about it.

01:15:04.000 And I'll be honest, the other thing, I don't want to live in a country where I care about people's race.

01:15:09.000 It doesn't mean anything to me.

01:15:11.000 I care about that you're a sweet person and that you're trying to do better in your life.

01:15:14.000 I care about your values and your actions.

01:15:16.000 Your melanin content is irrelevant to me, and it should be irrelevant to everybody else.

01:15:20.000 I want to live in that country.

01:15:22.000 And so, conservatism, if I have anything to say about it, will be values-based and ideas-based and merit-based, not race-based, not melanin-based.

01:15:31.000 And so, look, you're working for the government in the public sector.

01:15:34.000 You know, I don't know if you're a religious person or not, or you believe in God, but I would just encourage you to pray if God is using you for your greatest and highest purpose.

01:15:42.000 But I could tell you right now: if God answers your prayer and you say, get in the fight for freedom, we need people right now on the front lines working for Turning Point USA, working for churches that are engaged and active, like Greg Farrington's church.

01:15:53.000 I think some folks from his church are here.

01:15:55.000 Thank you guys, by the way, fabulous church.

01:15:57.000 And so, there is a place in conservatism for you, but it might not look for working for Turning Point USA.

01:16:02.000 It might be, hey, I'm going to work for this local committee or whatever it might be.

01:16:07.000 But if you're passionate about these ideas, we need you.

01:16:11.000 We need you badly.

01:16:12.000 God bless you, and thank you for being here tonight.

01:16:13.000 Thank you.

01:16:17.000 Two more questions.

01:16:18.000 Hey, Charlie, 18-year-old activist out of Sacramento, sophomore year, college student, and proud member of the ex-recall Gavin Newsom team, by the way.

01:16:31.000 So, as you know, there's a Democrat supermajority in our state legislature, and a committee in our state legislature, state assembly, did something, or state senate did something ridiculous today.

01:16:41.000 They passed a bill that would put women's menstrual products in men's restrooms in government facilities, and not a single Republican on the committee voted against the bill or spoke out against the bill.

01:16:54.000 They decided to abstain so it passed easily. 0.99

01:16:57.000 My question is: how do we get our representatives to fight against this crap? 0.99

01:17:02.000 Yeah, I mean, stop worrying about being offended all the time. 0.99

01:17:09.000 I mean, this is one of my big complaints of conservatives in general, which is fight for what is true and who cares the names they call you.

01:17:16.000 I mean, you're trying to tell me not a single Republican voted against that in committee?

01:17:19.000 I mean, I am telling you that not a single Republican in that committee had a backbone to vote against that bill, and that is what disappoints me.

01:17:26.000 It disillusions me.

01:17:27.000 They're afraid of people like Scott Weiner and all these other people.

01:17:31.000 Yeah.

01:17:31.000 Exactly.

01:17:32.000 I was going to say that.

01:17:33.000 Scott Weiner talked about Twitter disputes with Scott Weiner.

01:17:35.000 Right.

01:17:36.000 And yeah, he's not well at all.

01:17:39.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I could tell from his tweet yesterday where he said that there's a bill now in our state legislature proposed by a Republican that would allow a parent to know if their child is transitioning socially within schools.

01:17:53.000 And Scott Weiner came out and said that this is a Ron DeSantis-style bill that is oppressive to the LGBTQ community.

01:17:59.000 Yeah, of course he did.

01:18:00.000 I mean, I got in a whole Twitter dispute with Scott Weiner because he said that I'm the one that was inciting hatred against him because I decided to tweet about those perverted bills that he's pushing in the legislature.

01:18:10.000 And he says, I'm a victim on all these things.

01:18:11.000 Like, okay, Scott Weiner, how about you defend the bills, actually, of why you creepily think kids should be taught the most graphic, personal things without parental consent?

01:18:20.000 But he won't answer that question.

01:18:21.000 Look, you have to fight.

01:18:22.000 And I love California conservatives.

01:18:26.000 I think there's so much fight left in so much of what you guys are doing.

01:18:30.000 But it's going to be a long-term project, right?

01:18:33.000 And you've got to find the fighters.

01:18:34.000 You've got to support the fighters.

01:18:36.000 And you have to support the ones with the backbone.

01:18:38.000 And honestly, the ones that don't, ask them, why are you not standing for what is right in the legislature?

01:18:43.000 The bill's going to pass anyway.

01:18:44.000 Why wouldn't you stand for what is right?

01:18:46.000 So, God bless you for your activism and thank you.

01:18:48.000 Final question.

01:18:53.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:18:54.000 I'm gladly not an 18-year-old student here at Davis, but I'm an older millennial student who work with and attend the TPUSA meetings here.

01:19:04.000 And I also work with LaRouche PAC, who, God bless them, are real true unsung heroes, I would say.

01:19:11.000 So Silicon Valley Bank, which I'm sure you heard just when kaputz, now it's a fact that their board are all about their agenda is wokeism.

01:19:20.000 Yep.

01:19:21.000 Right?

01:19:22.000 So Christ chased the money changers out of the temple.

01:19:27.000 And now my question is with Josh Hawley just publicly backed up and is saying, calling for the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall Bank separation.

01:19:40.000 That's probably a good idea.

01:19:42.000 And my question is simply is what is your position on it?

01:19:47.000 Will you support it?

01:19:48.000 And the fact that we need to absolutely, rather than fund Wall Street, we need to fund the rebuilding of America.

01:19:59.000 Yeah, so just so everyone knows, Glass-Steagall was the repealing, or it was the instituting.

01:20:03.000 I always get confused.

01:20:04.000 It basically allowed commercial banks and investment banks to become one.

01:20:07.000 This would make it separate.

01:20:08.000 Look, I think heads need to metaphorically roll, okay, metaphorically for what happened at Silicon Valley Bank.

01:20:14.000 The regulators, the people involved, it's wrong on multiple, multiple levels.

01:20:19.000 And isn't it interesting how scared people are to actually criticize the banks right now, especially in the media?

01:20:25.000 It's just terrible.

01:20:26.000 And what the heck was the government doing?

01:20:28.000 Where were the regulators that are supposed to do their job that are supposed to be checking in on this?

01:20:32.000 And I'm very afraid of the fragility of the American banking system right now.

01:20:37.000 And I hope I'm wrong.

01:20:38.000 I hope that there's the full faith and credit behind it.

01:20:40.000 Reinstituting Glass-Steagall would be the first step of many, in my opinion.

01:20:43.000 But I think we need to repeal Dodd-Frank.

01:20:45.000 Dodd-Frank has been really unfair to small and local banks, which I think is actually their next focus.

01:20:51.000 They're going to try to get rid of mid- and local banks and try to hyper-corporatize JPMorgan, Citibank, and Wells Fargo as kind of the big three, like almost like the telecom companies, really quick.

01:21:01.000 Great.

01:21:01.000 Yeah.

01:21:02.000 Why I brought up LaRouche Pack is because they endorsed Trump and they're the ones who fought for Glass-Steagall since really 2000.

01:21:09.000 I'm not familiar with it, but thank you for bringing that up.

01:21:10.000 So thanks for being here tonight.

01:21:11.000 Thank you.

01:21:12.000 All right.

01:21:12.000 I want to summarize this.

01:21:15.000 A very important announcement.

01:21:17.000 There is a fear that the mob might, again, they're not terrorists.

01:21:21.000 They might actually try to be violent towards you, okay?

01:21:24.000 Do not engage with them.

01:21:26.000 All right.

01:21:26.000 Stay peaceful.

01:21:27.000 If you feel unsafe, ask a police officer, ask one of our staff.

01:21:31.000 We want all of you to get home safely.

01:21:33.000 But this is what they do, especially on the exiting of events.

01:21:36.000 These people can be really nasty, especially with the experience I've had with them over the last couple of years.

01:21:41.000 So please be peaceful.

01:21:42.000 Don't do anything with them.

01:21:43.000 They're the ones that are doing uncalled for things.

01:21:47.000 So please keep that in mind.

01:21:49.000 And it's a good thing this event happened tonight, but it's, I just want to remind, I do not want to live in a country where I have to have this much police support and I have to have my send-off message of be safe on an American college campus because you might have a baseball bat thrown at you.

01:22:05.000 We are fighting for the moral goodness and decency of speech.

01:22:09.000 Tonight's speech one, please be vigilant on your way out and stay peaceful.

01:22:13.000 Thank you for supporting Turning Point USA and God bless you.

01:22:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:22:22.000 Email us your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:22:25.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 18, 2023

The Speech UC-Davis Tried To Stop

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