00:01:02.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:08.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:27.000We're going to talk about how important it is to speak and to be able to speak freely in this country.
00:01:34.000Free speech is a moral good for all people.
00:01:37.000And we're going to exercise that tonight in more ways than one.
00:01:41.000But I think a lot of the energy around tonight is because of a material falsehood that the Sacramento Bee first published, and which literally started from an internet rumor that is not just untrue.
00:02:06.000But first, I want to thank specifically the police here tonight that are helping make sure that this event, they really deserve a lot of thanks.
00:02:26.000The whole place was spray painted, not just throughout the week, but also tonight.
00:02:30.000And the fact that this event is allowed to go on is a testament to the terrorists that we are not going to put up with force of trying to shut down people you don't like.
00:02:41.000And instead, we are going to have a free society based on speech, based on dialogue, based on discourse.
00:02:47.000And tonight is a statement to them that they're the losers and that speech wins in America.
00:03:26.000So fascist speaker, I don't know who she's talking about, because tonight you're going to see that anyone who disagrees with me tonight is not just allowed, but is encouraged to go ask a question.
00:03:37.000I would be the worst fascist in the history of government if you allow people that disagree with you to go to the front of the line and challenge you with an open mic.
00:03:45.000So I don't know who she's talking about.
00:04:56.000In fact, it originated by some Twitter account by some trans activist that saw a segment of mine where I said, quote, in the 50s or 60s, we would not have put up with men going into female locker rooms.
00:05:08.000And by the way, it's totally true because the district attorney would have arrested men going into female locker rooms for being a pervert.
00:05:46.000So they lie about me, and then they're surprised.
00:05:49.000Like, oh, I don't know why there's all this violence happening everywhere.
00:05:51.000It's just people can't control themselves.
00:05:53.000How about you stop lying about the speaker that's coming on your college campus, Sacramento B?
00:05:58.000How about you stop smearing people just because you disagree with them?
00:06:04.000She continues by reflecting on, she says, my overwhelming indication, inclination is the demand UC Davis to get ahead of the situation and uninvite Kirk.
00:06:15.000But there's no legal basis for doing so.
00:06:17.000Praise God for our founding fathers that we have a First Amendment in this country, that people like Hannah Holzer aren't in charge.
00:06:25.000She continues to say that, unfortunately, Charlie Kirk has a right to speak, and the Davis community has a right to show him he's not welcome.
00:06:32.000So again, I've never, ever, ever said anything to even allude to the violence against trans people or any people.
00:06:38.000In fact, I do over a thousand hours of radio every single year.
00:06:43.000I give public speeches where everything I say is filmed.
00:06:46.000Find one sentence where I've ever advocated for anything violent.
00:07:13.000I didn't get close to saying, watch this video of Gary May.
00:07:18.000Many of you have reached out to me and others regarding tonight's event organized by the registered student organization Turning Point USA, or TPUSA at UC Davis.
00:07:28.000Thank you for sharing your distress at a student group hosting a speaker who is a well-documented proponent of misinformation and hate and who has advocated for violence against transgender individuals.
00:07:52.000With respect to concerns related to violence, UC policy permits denial of requests if the speaker will present a clear and present danger to the campus.
00:08:36.000So, not only did he lie about me, but then he also said, Well, you know, it would be something if the room isn't filled, saying that he actually has a bias towards what he wants to have happen tonight.
00:08:47.000But here's what I want to just emphasize the most: this is not some sort of deranged professor, this is someone in a leadership position earning hundreds of thousands of dollars a year that has a duty to you, the students.
00:09:00.000And here's my question for Gary May: Will he condemn the fact that windows were broken tonight and that people have been arrested for their violence?
00:09:08.000Because he's so worried about violence, and then he repeats and parrots the lie.
00:09:13.000Our country is broken right now, and it's broken largely in part because you have people in leadership positions that are more worried about stoking the sensitivities and feelings of Antifa outside than actually a commitment to the truth.
00:09:47.000But also, it's important that those of you know that there's a lie being spread about Charlie Kirk, that he is saying that there should be violence against trans people.
00:10:08.000You'll find that the disagreements, again, go to the front of the line.
00:10:11.000You'll find a call for peace and harmony to try to be able to remedy our differences and divisions in America through dialogue and discourse.
00:10:19.000Because America can go one of two ways.
00:10:21.000We can go a totalitarian way, where we go back to street mob justice, or we can stay on the path that our founding fathers set before us.
00:10:29.000Where if we have differences, we have debate, we have dialogue.
00:10:33.000We're able to actually figure out if we have anything in common at all.
00:10:37.000Speech is a massive moral advancement.
00:10:42.000And that's why the founding fathers put the First Amendment right front and center.
00:10:46.000The ability to challenge your government, the ability to speak, the ability to petition your government for rights and redresses and grievances.
00:10:54.000And leaders have to be, leaders have a moral obligation to tell the truth, and they also have an obligation.
00:11:02.000If you're in charge of a school, why don't you lead your students towards virtuous action, not try to put them away in a direction that is altogether against the values that made America the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world?
00:11:16.000So I didn't actually, you know, a week ago you said, oh, Charlie, what are you going to speak about here?
00:12:43.000Their personal information gets doxxed.
00:12:46.000Their private information gets made public.
00:12:48.000They are the recipient of threats, physical intimidation, and they're doing it as a way to try to chill speech and try to chill conservative activism.
00:12:57.000I am inspired by how many young people know the cost.
00:13:03.000They know how hard it is to put in an event like this.
00:13:07.000They know what they're going to have to encounter, and they do it anyway.
00:13:47.000Somebody said, well, Charlie, why do you want to go to UC Davis so bad?
00:13:50.000Well, first of all, our beautiful chapter invited us, and I wanted to honor that.
00:13:54.000Number two, I hope to be able to have disagreement about the consensus ideas that are prevailing these college campuses.
00:14:02.000I want to talk about why critical theory is an awful and bad idea.
00:14:07.000I want to talk about how woke is a mind virus destroying our country.
00:14:10.000I want to talk about how there are two genders, period.
00:14:13.000I want to talk about how the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written.
00:14:17.000I want to talk about how this country is not just the greatest country ever to exist, but we're so close to losing it, what we could do to try to reverse it.
00:14:24.000I want to talk about all those different things.
00:14:25.000But the third reason why I'm here, and it's very important, is I want to remind the people that think they dominate us conservatives that they don't.
00:14:35.000I want to remind them through us being here tonight.
00:14:40.000I want to remind them that there's actually a lot more of us, that there's people that look at the world through a rational, reasonable, center-right worldview.
00:14:48.000That there are people that you might never have known that actually believe in eternal wisdom and eternal truths and allowing this country to continue to go hopefully on a path of prosperity and to flourish.
00:15:02.000And they win when we silence ourselves.
00:15:06.000I am a big, let me just put it this way.
00:15:09.000You know, the, oh, I just got an update from the team, by the way.
00:15:14.000The Sacramento B, so interesting coincidence.
00:15:16.000They took down the original article and corrected the lynching lie.
00:15:19.000Too little, too late, if you ask me in some ways.
00:15:22.000But they still call me a fascist, of which there is no evidence whatsoever.
00:15:27.000By the way, you know why that happened?
00:15:29.000Because they got a very strongly worded letter from our legal department as soon as that went up.
00:15:34.000We have to be willing to sue these people when they lie about us.
00:15:37.000Like Nicholas Sandman and so many others that sue that Kyle Rittenhouse and many others.
00:15:45.000But I want all of you to know that, yes, it's hard in California.
00:15:48.000It might feel as if you're outnumbered, but the totalitarians and the tyrants are the most bothered when all of a sudden they realize they can't break your will, they can't break your resolve, they can't break your commitment to the truth, and that they might quote-unquote outnumber you for the time being, but you're going to show that we only get stronger the more they resort to these types of tactics.
00:16:11.000That we're going to keep on showing up to these events, that we're going to keep on leaning in, that we're going to keep on running for local office, that we're going to keep up our prayer meetings, that we're going to keep on homeschooling our kids, that we're going to keep on pressuring our school boards, that it is an attitude of a commitment that no matter what they do to us, that we are going to get stronger, not weaker.
00:16:56.000Weak, fragile people try to prevent other people from speaking.
00:17:00.000Conservative students roll their eyes and they're like, well, that's kind of a weird idea.
00:17:04.000And they would take the opportunity to go to the open mic and challenge the speaker.
00:17:08.000The future of America rests solely on if the conservative movement will continue to expand and refuse to surrender to these sort of quasi-terroristic tactics that are being used.
00:17:23.000And so tonight is a statement in that more ways than one.
00:17:27.000And I'm very pleased to be able that this event was not canceled.
00:17:30.000And it shows that not only are they personal losers, but they lost tonight.
00:17:35.000And that is something I'm very, very thrilled to be able to celebrate with you.
00:18:38.000My question is this: for folks who are wanting to try to rebuild a relationship with their families and peers, those of whom they may not be able to disagree with politically speaking, and how can they establish a dialogue and conversation, like being able to talk about anything like politics, COVID, or events without feeling like they feel like they're going to have to force it upon them?
00:19:31.000If you cannot honor your parents here on earth, then you will not be able to honor the eternal and divine Father, of which is much more important, by the way.
00:19:40.000It is a step and an intermediary to that.
00:19:43.000Secondly, with honoring your parents, it is the only one of the 10 commandments that involves your nation and a promise.
00:19:50.000Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.
00:19:54.000One of the reasons why America is falling apart is because we have decided to break this commandment and we are teaching children to no longer honor their parents.
00:20:03.000A nation that no longer honors their parents, you have a bunch of 17-year-olds that think their parents are dumb and stupid, and they do what they think is right in their own eyes, and that creates a morally chaotic, miserable country very quickly.
00:20:15.000So I just talked about that on the parents.
00:20:17.000Do everything you possibly can to not allow divisive politics or different ideas to get in the way of your family relationships or your close relationships.
00:21:18.000Be very honest about how you think they have erred in their step.
00:21:21.000But the left or the people that wish to divide the country would love nothing more than to create silence between family members that have shared experience and bonds just because they have different worldviews.
00:21:37.000Hey, Charlie, as the vice president of the Turning Point Chapter at Sacramento State University, the rival TUC Davis, I'd like to just thank you real quick for creating an organization that has enriched my college experience greatly.
00:22:10.000In fact, I have an acquaintance named Michael Moreno, who had a tournament at Arizona State University, was tossed from around for quoting a piece of evidence from Dr. Jordan Peterson.
00:22:37.000And for those of you that support Turning Point USA, you're changing lives every single day.
00:22:40.000Secondly, to take academia back, look, I'm not convinced it's possible in certain areas.
00:22:47.000I think we have to build new colleges and new institutions.
00:22:49.000Jordan is doing that with the University of Austin and many other places.
00:22:54.000But you have to do what we're doing here tonight.
00:22:56.000You have to try to show up, start Turning Point USA groups.
00:22:59.000In California, it's hard because the Board of Regents is just completely and totally lost and out of control.
00:23:04.000And that's just too bad, and it's a shame.
00:23:07.000But look, the problem with academia is conservatives don't want to go into it for good reason, and liberals just continue to, or left-wingers continue to protect their own.
00:23:18.000My big fear is that this woke ideology is now infiltrating the social sciences.
00:23:24.000It's also infiltrating engineering and mathematics.
00:23:27.000The things that you thought would be immune to the kind of racial preference worldview is now totally and completely infiltrated.
00:23:34.000And so I wrote a whole book called The College Scam.
00:23:37.000So I'm not exactly big on saving higher education.
00:23:41.000But I do think there is a place for higher education.
00:23:43.000And it pains me because I go and I visit to Hillsdale College quite often.
00:23:48.000Hillsdale College is America's greatest college, by the way.
00:23:52.000And it pains me because I see how good education could be.
00:23:56.000I sit down in these classes at Hillsdale College and they're studying Aristotle's ethics.
00:24:01.000They're studying, you know, Augustine.
00:24:03.000They're studying the Summa Theologica by Aquinas.
00:24:06.000Now, I would just venture a guess that many of you have probably not spent more than maybe a week or a month or a semester thinking about Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle and what they had to offer.
00:24:16.000If you guys are, then I'll stand corrected on that.
00:24:18.000Or talking about why Western civilization is the greatest and most excellent experiment in self-government in human history.
00:24:30.000And there is a place for students to learn classically and read the great books and to have dialogue and discussion.
00:24:36.000That's not what's happening on university campuses.
00:24:38.000Instead, you get a steady diet of Robin DiAngelo and Ibram X. Kendi and of Gene Stefanik and of intro to critical race theory and Herbert Marcuse and Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida and postmodernism and post-structuralism that really these ideas could be entertained for a short while.
00:24:58.000It's a really bad idea to build a worldview around them.
00:25:01.000In fact, it's a great way to burn everything around you if you actually do that.
00:25:42.000But here's what I want to ask you about.
00:25:44.000So trans youth experience extremely high suicide rates.
00:25:48.000And trans youth who transition receive hormone therapy or surgery have significantly decreased rates of suicide according to studies by Turbin et al. and Almazan Kroglian et al.
00:26:01.000In fact, this effect becomes stronger the earlier they receive the surgery or hormone therapy according to the same studies.
00:26:08.000Additionally, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders suggests treating gender dysphoria with transition hormone therapy or surgery.
00:26:17.000So I guess just from a purely practical standpoint, regardless of political belief or what you think about trans people, wouldn't it be a good thing to allow access to these surgeries just sort of empirically?
00:26:38.000It's very possible that I guess the publicization and destigmatization of transgenderism now is making it so that people who might have committed suicide before.
00:26:50.000So the one thing we can agree on is people need help, right?
00:26:54.000I think the best way to help somebody that's suffering under a delusion is cognitive-based therapy and non-chemical, non-pharmacology interventions.
00:27:02.000You would probably agree to be able to have counseling therapy.
00:27:06.000For example, if a girl's 11 years old and she's experiencing puberty or her father's not around and she might think she's a boy, wouldn't it be more loving to say, hey, let's go through some therapy to actually get you back into alignment with your biological reality, not put you on Lupron or chemical castration or irreversible surgical methods?
00:27:24.000That would probably be rational, right?
00:27:28.000I think that if it were possible to reduce these feelings by, I guess, cognitive behavioral therapy and things like that, I would definitely think that would be great.
00:27:40.000But I guess research also shows that rejecting gender identity in youth typically also increases suicide rate.
00:28:01.000Yeah, so it's not fair necessarily to connect transgenderism with suicide.
00:28:06.000It might be somebody that's suffering under gender dysphoria and also a heavy dose of depression, schizophrenia, anxiety, bipolar disorder, right?
00:28:26.000So after six years, there's a big thing called transition regret.
00:28:30.000We know 35,000 young people that are now vocally saying they regret gender, like medically mutilating themselves.
00:28:39.000And there is no reverse switch on that.
00:28:42.000So again, wouldn't it be rational to do what is reversible, which is just cognitive behavioral therapy, not what is irreversible to a 12-year-old that might be going through a temporary puberty-driven crisis?
00:28:54.000Wouldn't that be a more loving, rational way of going about it?
00:28:57.000Because what we have now is a boom industry of quote-unquote gender-affirming care clinics and pediatric gender clinics for 12, 13, and 14-year-olds, some of which, by the way, do not require parental consent of a 13-year-old that might make a mistake.
00:29:12.000And I think you would agree, you made mistakes when you were 13 years old, right?
00:29:16.000Yeah, so shouldn't we have a health care system and laws that reflect trying to protect the innocence of a 13-year-old, not trying to incentivize their mistakes where they can't reverse that decision later in life?
00:30:37.000Okay, so let's close every pediatric gender clinic in America and stop the chemical castration of our youth, which is exactly where we were 10 years ago.
00:30:46.000I think we found a lot of agreement, my friend.
00:31:04.000Teenagers are susceptible to social contagions.
00:31:08.000Teenagers are susceptible to peer pressure or for other influences.
00:31:12.000And the laws and the culture should reflect, let's say, an atmosphere that respects the innocence of the child and says, once you are of adulthood, you have certain agency and ability.
00:31:23.000I might disagree with that, but I don't want to live in a country where an 11-year-old might be misled by a gender psychiatrist, has their breast chopped off, and wants to have that reversed in eight years.
00:31:45.000I guess I still raise the issue of, in total, the number of people who are committing suicide would probably be reduced if we allowed these surgeries.
00:31:58.000So in the short term, yes, when you administer testosterone replacement therapy, you get a boost in self-esteem.
00:32:05.000You get a temporary boost in mental clarity, but that actually tapers after about five or six years, which is why you see the transitioner community increasing.
00:32:14.000I could see you're coming after this from a good place, but I want you to think about this in the days and the weeks and all of you to think, how young is too young?
00:32:22.000I think that if you are in the teenage age, 12, 13, 14, and we're trying to say that we are so advanced, we're going to prescribe Lupron, which was called too inhumane for rapists in prison, to young boys that effectively chemically castrate themselves.
00:32:40.000I think it is a rational, moral argument to say, let's make sure we don't do something irreversible to somebody that might be preyed upon.
00:32:48.000I think that's rather fair and reasonable.
00:32:50.000Unfortunately, that's considered radical enough where you have Antifa show up.
00:32:53.000Thank you for coming tonight, and God bless you.
00:34:10.000LASIC eye surgery used to be considered a fringe idea that many people considered to be unfounded and not proven.
00:34:16.000Insurance largely does not cover LASIC.
00:34:18.000Entrepreneurs got into the industry, and LASIK is now the most performed eye surgery in America with great results and great benefits.
00:34:27.000The price has gone down and the quality has gone up.
00:34:29.000Now, that's one example of many, right?
00:34:31.000And you'd be able to counter, you'd say, well, Charlie, why is it that you go to a hospital and they charge you way too much for like a Tylenol, $35 for a Tylenol?
00:34:40.000Now, here's where I can agree with the spirit of the single payer people, which is we need to crush the hospital lobby in this country.
00:34:48.000It is wrong the way these hospitals operate.
00:34:51.000We need to mandate transparency and pricing.
00:34:54.000If I have to go to Chipotle to see how many calories are in a burrito, I want to see how much everything costs at a hospital the minute I walk into that hospital.
00:35:02.000Every consumer has a right to know what things cost, right?
00:35:06.000And so at times I'm willing to yield on price transparency.
00:35:11.000I'm even willing to say that in certain regards that there has been some major issues with, I am no fan, for example, of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson ⁇ Johnson.
00:35:26.000And so I'm actually more of a moderate on it.
00:35:29.000I will hesitate to say, though, the Medicare for all system, what it will do is it will turn the American health care system into a major college campus where nobody is actually paying for the good that they're getting.
00:35:39.000One of the reasons why college is so wildly overpriced and why the quality has decreased is because we have single-payer higher education.
00:35:47.000Many of you take out loans that the federal government is subsidizing and that you're not even directly invested in for a little while, scholarships, grants, and all that.
00:35:55.000But I think the spirit of what you're saying is smart, and I will also be happy partners with you to crush big pharma.
00:36:02.000I think they have way too much power in this country, and I think they actually make people super sick and not always healthy.
00:36:18.000And I wouldn't have said that five years ago.
00:36:19.000The government would probably screw it up, but how could it be any worse than it is now?
00:36:23.000I mean, again, I believe that Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson Johnson have done such deceitful and treacherous things, especially in the last couple of years.
00:36:33.000I am open and willing to use the power of the state to start to make sure we're no longer owned by these pharmaceutical companies.
00:36:46.000I want to say, by starting off, I was told by your wonderful assistant over here that I should tell you that I disagree with almost everything.
00:36:52.000Obviously, we've not had a two-hour discussion.
00:37:00.000All I've heard is stuff that I'm just like, what?
00:37:02.000First, I want to say that I guess as the first part of your speech was you complaining about kind of these leftists and kind of this, but I've never heard any policy positions.
00:37:11.000When I go to something like a Senator Sanders convention or someone on the left, they're talking about health care, inequality, inflation, growth.
00:37:18.000But you guys all seem to want to talk about how the left does this or the left does that, but no policies on how to fix anything.
00:37:24.000So I guess that kind of goes to my first question: is what is the GOP's actual position when it comes to fixing inflation?
00:37:50.000I have my own ideas, and I actually think the GOP does a terrible job.
00:37:55.000But let me give you some ideas that I think you might agree with.
00:37:58.000I think that vital products should be made in America, not in China.
00:38:02.000And we should use tariffs and sanctions to get it done.
00:38:05.000Vitamin C, penicillin, critical infrastructure should be manufactured here.
00:38:09.000I think American college graduates should be given preference to go work for American companies above foreign workers.
00:38:15.000And that means reforming the H-1B system and actually giving you, the American college-educated kids, a preference because we have a moral obligation to our own citizens over the citizens of another country.
00:38:25.000I think we should fully close the United States southern border.
00:38:31.000Sorry, you were saying you're for a government program that puts American college students like the.
00:38:35.000No, reforming the immigration system, right?
00:38:37.000So that big companies like Facebook don't do quasi-indentured servitude to bring foreign workers in and be able to compete.
00:38:45.000That would be a government program that would do that.
00:38:46.000Well, yeah, the government program actually already exists.
00:38:48.000Okay, so you're actually a conservative who's for increasing the government size, not for the program.
00:38:51.000Well, no, I want a small but strong government, so I want things that are smart.
00:38:55.000For example, I'd love to have more border patrol agents and less IRS agents.
00:38:58.000So where it makes sense to increase the volume of government agents as long as it is pursuing a couple things that are core to my philosophy.
00:39:05.000A strong country that has borders, sovereignty, culture, and maintains a moral commitment to its citizens that you should be able to work hard, play by the rules, be able to have a family, own a home, and see rising income and wages.
00:39:17.000Those are very basic things in a social contract.
00:39:20.000Why is the increasing IRS agents, which are taxes that Pay for things like roads, GPS, infrastructure, basic things that you and yourself needed to get here.
00:39:50.000But let me just say this: I love markets, but I'm willing to critique markets when I think they're not serving people and they're not serving the nation.
00:39:58.000I think our overindulgence in free trade fanaticism has been a major mistake over the last 20 or 30 years.
00:40:04.000I don't worship corporations, but I do think that entrepreneurs and private property rights and people taking risks are a general good for society.
00:40:13.000And not only does history show this, but common sense logic and material reality shows all this.
00:40:18.000I can give you more and more examples, if you want, of policy stuff.
00:40:23.000The reason I don't go through policy stuff is, again, whoa, is that I'm not running for office, right?
00:40:28.000I don't represent the Republican Party.
00:40:30.000But if I can build out a worldview that you can agree with, then the policy answers will come naturally, right?
00:40:39.000So if you understand morals and values, then you can answer the next 1,000 policy answers.
00:40:45.000I care a lot more about policy than what people say.
00:40:47.000Like, what government does is a lot more important to me.
00:40:48.000And that's why I was confused why your speech was not about policy.
00:40:51.000Because, again, I'm not running for office.
00:40:52.000I want to ask one more question before we go.
00:40:54.000I guess for us, there used to be a thing called the middle class, or the idea of a growing and strong middle class.
00:40:59.000And I feel like for the past 10 years, especially on the right, maybe on the left too, for the more neoliberal left, but the right, that idea has kind of shrunken.
00:41:07.000I don't think there's a lot of talk in the middle class.
00:41:09.000Do you view income inequality as a problem?
00:42:32.000Number two is that we should be unafraid to use tariffs and sanctions to say that critical infrastructure and things that matter should be made here in America.
00:42:41.000The delusion on the left, and I just want to challenge you on this, is that the left has a bunch of people that talk a good game, AOC and Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden, but when it really matters, they're nothing more than neoliberal shills that are willing to invade other countries, invite them into our country, and then lie to their voters under the veneer of social liberalism.
00:43:02.000The populist movement in America that represents real people, muscular class teachers, police officers, and firefighters, it lives on the American right because we listen to our constituents and we're willing to fight for ideas like tariffs, sanctions, closed border, and no more money to Ukraine.
00:43:18.000The left is shilling for all those things.
00:44:26.000And the reason that I'm here is because I raised him to believe and think for himself, to look at both sides and come up with his own opinion.
00:44:40.000And he kind of didn't come up with Bernie, okay, I can live with that, but I absolutely stand behind his right to think what he is free to think.
00:46:25.000Don't answer the question with the question, like, what is the vocab term woman define it?
00:46:30.000That I align myself as a mother and what the women in my life and the feminine values of being more relationship oriented, less competitive, mothering, caring about someone ahead of myself.
00:46:57.000So those are values that I, feminist values that I believe in, and I believe I can be a woman.
00:47:06.000I don't have, I wasn't born with a male body, but I believe that I am a woman based on feminine principles.
00:49:40.000They don't stop being a man if they appropriate womanhood.
00:49:44.000If I wore blackface right now, I don't become black.
00:49:49.000If a man decides to all of a sudden dress in a dress, he doesn't become a woman, nor should you force other people to reaccommodate society.
00:49:56.000If they want to think that in their private time or in their own mind, it's kind of weird and strange, I guess.
00:50:03.000But that's not the debate we're having in America right now.
00:50:05.000The debate we're having, and I'd love your final thoughts on this, is a biological man is able to compete against biological women in NCAA sports and win the national championship in swimming.
00:50:20.000That's not part of my personal beliefs.
00:50:23.000Okay, so let's maybe just go for gay and lesbian couples who are successful.
00:50:29.000I mean, just because I really want to know the answer, and I kind of know where that's headed, and I don't agree about men playing in women's sports or...
00:50:53.000So, secondly, though, on the other part, as far as they're all in their 60s, let me see, my friends.
00:50:59.000On the LGBT thing, and I want to get to as many questions as possible.
00:51:03.000What does somebody's own personal sexual orientation have to do with lumping in a bunch of letters with somebody that is suffering from gender dysphoria?
00:51:13.000Don't you think we should divide them?
00:51:15.000No, I think that there are people who have healthy homosexual relationships who identify that way who aren't in favor of some of the things that you're doing.
00:51:50.000The American founders believed every single human being had a soul, and that is a fact.
00:51:54.000I believe that marriage is an institution and a tradition that should be between one man and one woman.
00:52:01.000Marriage, in an ideal world, the state would have a limited role in that.
00:52:06.000But I don't believe that diluting or destroying the institution of marriage or the vocabulary or the truth behind it does it any justice for anybody.
00:52:17.000And you must understand what a word means and what is the purpose of that word.
00:52:21.000And having been married, I can understand that marriage is about opposites getting along to do something bigger than themselves.
00:52:29.000The big issue in the gay marriage debate, and some conservatives disagree, is that you don't have two opposites.
00:52:34.000You have two alikes that are coming, two people that are alike coming together.
00:54:05.000I just wanted to ask with how much our school systems have changed since even when I was a kid, I'm only 20, what is the best way to shield our younger children from falling into the mindset that they're trying to teach the very I get the question a lot.
00:54:24.000If you're able to homeschool, I'm a big fan of homeschooling.
00:54:27.000I am, and I know that's very difficult.
00:54:30.000And then I think you have to find good private schools, if not that.
00:54:33.000And if you have to send them the government schools, you have to fight for better schools and better school boards and stay involved in those school districts at every possible way you can.
00:54:56.000Become your child's teacher, regardless of where you send them to school.
00:55:00.000Homeschooling is not just doing it Monday through Friday.
00:55:04.000Homeschooling is a 24-7, 365 operation where you're constantly educating your children about American values, hopefully Judeo-Christian values as well.
00:56:01.000So if in the next year and a half or so you find yourself objectively thinking that a different candidate, whether it's DeSantis or somebody else, would give us a better chance to defeat the Democrats, how would you reconcile your sense of loyalty with your desire to win?
00:56:16.000I'm going to answer this personally, not on behalf of Torney Point USA, tax status stuff.
00:56:57.000I'm a really big believer and supporter of Ron DeSantis.
00:57:00.000I don't know where he's going to fall, but I think America is lucky to have Governor DeSantis, and I think he has been America's greatest governor.
00:57:09.000And so I personally do not, I do not support going negative on Ron DeSantis.
00:57:17.000And it actually kind of bothers me, I'll be honest.
00:57:19.000And I say that as an open Trump supporter.
00:57:21.000But yeah, look, you've asked me a hypothetical, and I've learned not to answer hypotheticals because there's too many questions in the future.
00:57:28.000But here's what I can say, question you're directly.
00:57:31.000I think Trump has had a great last 30 days.
00:57:33.000It seems he's really hitting his stride.
00:57:35.000He's talking a great game on foreign policy.
00:57:38.000He recently, I thought his visit in East Palestine, Ohio was fabulous.
00:57:42.000My personal opinion, it's time for MAGA season two.
00:57:44.000MAGA season one was big rallies and big things.
00:57:47.000I think he's got to go super small and just show up at like random homes and living rooms and just like go through and just talk with people in front of fireplaces.
00:57:55.000He is the best unscripted in personal one-on-one environments.
00:58:42.000I know you're in favor in small government for a lot of issues.
00:58:46.000I know that drugs are a big issue in America.
00:58:50.000I was wondering what was your perspective on recreational drugs in general, the legalization of drugs, and just what your perspective on that was.
00:59:00.000The mass legalization of drugs has been a major mistake in our country.
00:59:04.000I used to be for it, and I have had 180-degree reversal, and I'll tell you why.
00:59:08.000I believe in a small but strong government with prudent and effective and, let's just say, common sense laws.
00:59:14.000I used to be one of those guys that was a conservative that said, if we really want to reduce government and make the cartels weaker, let's legalize weed, and that will really make the cartels weaker.
00:59:23.000And then we'll have less people in prison.
00:59:25.000Everything I believed was completely incorrect.
01:00:05.000We're now giving more people things on welfare, money on welfare.
01:00:09.000And so while I understand the spirit and potentially the principality, the principle of legalizing or decriminalizing drugs, we have to look at the evidence.
01:00:21.000And the evidence is that we live in a sadder society, a more depressed society, a more anxious society, a more violent society, the more that drug use has gone up over the last decade.
01:00:59.000And now they've gotten into really rich business where they get $5,000 a head when they traffic them across the Rio Grande Valley and they're doing $5,000 a day.
01:01:07.000Or they get fentany trafficked in from China, that this much of fentanyl, like a salt grain of fentanyl, will kill your grandkid almost instantaneously.
01:01:15.000And so now the fentanyl is the cartels are bigger and stronger than ever before.
01:01:18.000They're more brazen and bold than ever before.
01:01:21.000They're kidnapping and killing Americans.
01:01:22.000They're controlling the entire Mexican government.
01:01:24.000The border is now completely controlled by the cartel.
01:01:27.000And we were told that drug legalization would make the cartels irrelevant the same way that the legalization of alcohol made the mob less powerful in the 30s.
01:01:52.000I see your point that the legalization of marijuana has increased drug abuse and has increased the demand for things like fentanyl and heroin and stuff.
01:02:00.000I was wondering, I guess, like, why is making things like alcohol illegal, but making things like marijuana illegal?
01:02:08.000Why is alcohol more acceptable than marijuana, for example?
01:02:11.000Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not exactly a big fan of alcohol.
01:02:14.000I actually think alcohol is a really bad drug, and we overly glamorize alcohol in our society.
01:02:19.000I think we'd do some good to actually limit alcohol intake.
01:02:22.000I think it would actually make people's lives better.
01:02:24.000And I think we've waive over socialized drinking in our country.
01:02:27.000Now, that's a separate argument, though, because that's making something that's currently legal illegal.
01:02:31.000We're talking about making something that's illegal legal, right?
01:02:35.000But if you were to say, wave a magic wand and people would drink less in America, I'd say, sign me up for that.
01:02:40.000Because, I mean, if you look at the amount of DUIs, violent crime, if you look at domestic assault, alcohol is almost always involved, almost always.
01:02:49.000So I would say this: right now, the question is on marijuana, and it has been proven right now to have massive externalities that are negative.
01:02:58.000Over 70,000 people died of fentanyl overdoses last year, right?
01:03:02.000And over 140,000 people die from the effects of alcohol every single year.
01:03:06.000Now, I'll be the most unpopular public commentator on the planet to argue for a ban or an abolition of alcohol, but let me just say this.
01:03:13.000Someone needs to have the courage to say the amount we drink in our country is bad for us, and it's making us deeply unhappy.
01:03:25.000So as someone who claims to be such a bastion of freedom of speech, why do you call the protesters outside terrorists, outside of, say, one broken window?
01:03:38.000Well, it's more than one broken window, assaulting cops, spray painting the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation, the graffiti.
01:03:47.000But that's not, don't you think it's bigoted to call all protesters who are outside as terrorists when a handful of minority might be representing some of the things that we're doing?
01:04:04.000They're mostly white liberals without jobs.
01:04:07.000But you're calling all protesters terrorists?
01:04:11.000I'm calling Antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity, sending death threats to my family, smashing windows, and spray painting the campus the entire week leading up to this terrorist.
01:04:25.000A lot of them are just college students who don't agree with the point of view that you're propagating.
01:04:30.000Maybe they should have come to the front of the line and asked a question like you and not acted like somebody in a third world country where they settle their differences with gang violence.
01:04:40.000But just to be sure, those people who are there to register their protest aren't terrorists.
01:04:44.000Okay, the terrorist definition is a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
01:05:32.000Why is it that when people go into the United States Capitol and take a selfie, they're called terrorists by our government.
01:05:38.000But when you start to terrorize and smash windows and put violent threats and death threats to me, it's somehow bigoted to call them terrorists.
01:05:46.000So first of all, it's not, it wasn't a coordinated effort as someone who was there.
01:05:52.000I just knew that there was this event happening and that there would be a protest in order to register our point of view.
01:06:00.000I was not part of any coordinated effort and neither were a lot of the other people who were there.
01:06:05.000We don't appreciate the label of being terrorists, especially a lot of us are from countries where you shouldn't appreciate the label or the activity.
01:06:13.000Why don't you come here and say, you know, I'm pretty damn embarrassed that people that agree with me resort to violence instead of going up here and trying to lecture me about calling them terrorists?
01:07:05.000Throwing eggs and objects at police officers is a legal definition of assault, no matter how much you try to gaslight it or spin it.
01:07:11.000If I can just, without resorting to what aboutism, using your definition of terrorism, if the police uses unjust violence against civilians, should that also count as terrorism?
01:07:41.000They did this in Sacramento and assaulted one of our Turning Point USA employees and sent one of them to the hospital.
01:07:46.000And Tifa, oh, by the way, the same buddies, the same tactics, the same coordination, the same wardrobe, the same language, the same signs, you know what they did two weeks ago?
01:07:54.000They arsoned and firebombed an entire police training headquarters in Georgia in massive coordinated fashion.
01:08:01.000And so right now what we are seeing is the rise of left-wing domestic violent extremism, and the failure to acknowledge or admit it means that you are blinded by ideology.
01:09:32.000And so I believe that, yes, there will be costs and consequences of having firearm ownership, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.
01:09:39.000Yeah, so it's actually kind of to do with using that same logic, right?
01:09:44.000If criminals will get their hands on the guns anyway, there's no point in banning them, then by that same logic, should we not legalize marijuana?
01:09:50.000Because won't the kids get their hands on it anyway from either like people who are older or criminals?
01:09:56.000Just using that same logic, would it make sense to then also ban marijuana?
01:10:58.000So I just first wanted to comment quickly on the guy who was defending the protesters outside.
01:11:04.000So I'm the vice president of the UC Davis Turning Point Chapter.
01:11:13.000And the same people who organized those protests outside have put my name on flyers and my face on flyers for my social media, put it all over campus, wheat-pasted it so it's glued to the wall.
01:11:24.000And they've called me a homophobic fascist, a bigot.
01:11:27.000They've said I'm not welcome on this campus, and they've published my phone number and email so that people could be able to harass me.
01:11:34.000So if unlawful intimidation in the pursuit of political aims is the definition of terrorism, I'd say even that probably falls into the definition.
01:11:48.000Yeah, so then the other point I had, I had a question for you, probably an easier one than a few of the other ones.
01:11:55.000But so the left, as we can see, has really serious positions for the future.
01:12:01.000They have really serious opinions and hopes and visions for the future of the U.S. Serious enough that they're willing to organize into groups of hundreds and break things and burn things down.
01:12:11.000And we on the right, that gives us lots of time to talk about it and make fun of it and make compilations and whatnot.
01:12:18.000And that's all good and funny and entertaining.
01:12:20.000And that sort of roped me in at some point.
01:12:23.000But what is our vision for the future?
01:12:26.000What are we willing to get that passionate about?
01:12:44.000It anchors you in responsibility, right?
01:12:46.000Right now, it is harder than ever to buy a home in America thanks to inflation and thanks to all this nonsense that's happening.
01:12:51.000We are telling young people not to get married and we're saying that if you have children, it could be an existential threat to the climate.
01:12:57.000And we wonder why this is the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, alcohol-addicted, and Medicaid generation in history.
01:13:03.000Those three things should be a core social compact.
01:13:06.000I could go through list by list, though, right?
01:13:07.000I want a country that cares more about our borders than the borders of a foreign country.
01:13:11.000I want a country that makes stuff that is critical to our national sovereignty and our future, such as vitamin C, penicillin, actually made here in America.
01:13:20.000And finally, well, not finally, but in addition, I'll say this.
01:13:23.000I want to see church attendance go up.
01:13:25.000I want to see less kids addicted to pornography.
01:14:03.000I want a country that actually is purposeful in our action, in our community, that is more local than it is corporate, that focuses more on the family than some abstract ideology.
01:14:12.000That's what I think we as conservatives need to fight for and fight for vigorously while they do all the nonsense that they do.
01:14:36.000I went to an HBCU actually in Washington, D.C., doing some work now in the public sector for the government.
01:14:41.000So I'd like to get your take on how someone that might look like me or come from my socioeconomic background can find a home in conservatism.
01:14:51.000Or, if not conservatism, where can someone who might find themselves in the gray area go if they don't fall into one camp or the other?
01:14:59.000Well, let me tell you, you have a home in the conservative movement if I have anything to say about it.
01:15:04.000And I'll be honest, the other thing, I don't want to live in a country where I care about people's race.
01:15:22.000And so, conservatism, if I have anything to say about it, will be values-based and ideas-based and merit-based, not race-based, not melanin-based.
01:15:31.000And so, look, you're working for the government in the public sector.
01:15:34.000You know, I don't know if you're a religious person or not, or you believe in God, but I would just encourage you to pray if God is using you for your greatest and highest purpose.
01:15:42.000But I could tell you right now: if God answers your prayer and you say, get in the fight for freedom, we need people right now on the front lines working for Turning Point USA, working for churches that are engaged and active, like Greg Farrington's church.
01:15:53.000I think some folks from his church are here.
01:15:55.000Thank you guys, by the way, fabulous church.
01:15:57.000And so, there is a place in conservatism for you, but it might not look for working for Turning Point USA.
01:16:02.000It might be, hey, I'm going to work for this local committee or whatever it might be.
01:16:07.000But if you're passionate about these ideas, we need you.
01:16:18.000Hey, Charlie, 18-year-old activist out of Sacramento, sophomore year, college student, and proud member of the ex-recall Gavin Newsom team, by the way.
01:16:31.000So, as you know, there's a Democrat supermajority in our state legislature, and a committee in our state legislature, state assembly, did something, or state senate did something ridiculous today.
01:16:41.000They passed a bill that would put women's menstrual products in men's restrooms in government facilities, and not a single Republican on the committee voted against the bill or spoke out against the bill.
01:16:54.000They decided to abstain so it passed easily.
01:16:57.000My question is: how do we get our representatives to fight against this crap?
01:17:02.000Yeah, I mean, stop worrying about being offended all the time.
01:17:09.000I mean, this is one of my big complaints of conservatives in general, which is fight for what is true and who cares the names they call you.
01:17:16.000I mean, you're trying to tell me not a single Republican voted against that in committee?
01:17:19.000I mean, I am telling you that not a single Republican in that committee had a backbone to vote against that bill, and that is what disappoints me.
01:17:39.000Well, yeah, I mean, I could tell from his tweet yesterday where he said that there's a bill now in our state legislature proposed by a Republican that would allow a parent to know if their child is transitioning socially within schools.
01:17:53.000And Scott Weiner came out and said that this is a Ron DeSantis-style bill that is oppressive to the LGBTQ community.
01:18:00.000I mean, I got in a whole Twitter dispute with Scott Weiner because he said that I'm the one that was inciting hatred against him because I decided to tweet about those perverted bills that he's pushing in the legislature.
01:18:10.000And he says, I'm a victim on all these things.
01:18:11.000Like, okay, Scott Weiner, how about you defend the bills, actually, of why you creepily think kids should be taught the most graphic, personal things without parental consent?
01:19:22.000So Christ chased the money changers out of the temple.
01:19:27.000And now my question is with Josh Hawley just publicly backed up and is saying, calling for the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall Bank separation.
01:20:38.000I hope that there's the full faith and credit behind it.
01:20:40.000Reinstituting Glass-Steagall would be the first step of many, in my opinion.
01:20:43.000But I think we need to repeal Dodd-Frank.
01:20:45.000Dodd-Frank has been really unfair to small and local banks, which I think is actually their next focus.
01:20:51.000They're going to try to get rid of mid- and local banks and try to hyper-corporatize JPMorgan, Citibank, and Wells Fargo as kind of the big three, like almost like the telecom companies, really quick.
01:21:49.000And it's a good thing this event happened tonight, but it's, I just want to remind, I do not want to live in a country where I have to have this much police support and I have to have my send-off message of be safe on an American college campus because you might have a baseball bat thrown at you.
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