The Charlie Kirk Show - The Spencer Pratt Homeless Plan + AMA 267

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00:01:18.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It's Friday, May 22nd.

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00:01:25.000 How are we doing, Blake?

00:01:25.000 We're doing great.

00:01:27.000 It seems like one of those days where it's a holiday weekend.

00:01:30.000 I was going to say, we're all gearing up.

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00:01:50.000 Oh, yes, those are religious ones.

00:01:51.000 Well, the civic holidays, I wish Easter was a US holiday.

00:01:54.000 Well, okay, but it's a yeah, I get what you mean.

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00:02:39.000 In the meantime, we got news to cover.

00:02:42.000 And I was taken by a.

00:02:46.000 Release from Spencer Pratt.

00:02:48.000 Okay.

00:02:48.000 I've been watching that campaign very closely, and he's got a really, really fascinating and I think compelling plan to combat homelessness, which is, I think, one of the more intractable problems that many big cities face, and it's their own choice, certainly.

00:03:03.000 Here to help us unpack that right at the jump is Jason Rance.

00:03:07.000 He's hosted the Jason Rance Show on Seattle Red 770 up in Seattle.

00:03:11.000 He's a West Coaster through and through and is just a glutton for punishment.

00:03:16.000 He's also the author of the book, What's Killing America.

00:03:20.000 Jason, welcome back to the show, my friend.

00:03:21.000 Good to see you.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, thanks for having me back.

00:03:24.000 So, you had homework.

00:03:26.000 I said, you got to watch this video, Spencer Pratt, because, yes, Spencer Pratt is running a really remarkable campaign in many ways.

00:03:34.000 And I'd love to just get your initial reaction to that.

00:03:37.000 But he's using media in ways that nobody's done before.

00:03:40.000 AI, organic creators in LA, in the movie space, are making their own Spencer Pratt campaign ads.

00:03:49.000 So, we'll get into the homeless piece, but just on the top of it, As a West Coast urban American, what's it like to see somebody like Spencer Pratt emerge on the scene and actually apparently have a legitimate chance?

00:04:01.000 Maybe he's not favored yet, but he could become mayor of LA.

00:04:05.000 He could.

00:04:05.000 Look, he's gaining momentum and he's doing it in a way that I think really reaches folks who don't normally pay attention to politics.

00:04:14.000 There are a lot of folks, and this is really the issue with Donald Trump, and even to another extent, like Zoran Momdani, where they were able to speak to people and energize people who maybe don't normally vote.

00:04:23.000 Now, in one case, didn't like that they were able to do that, but for President Trump, we're obviously a fan of him getting those folks to vote.

00:04:30.000 And I think Spencer Pratt is really connecting with people who, Look at a lot of these issues and say they're not inherently political.

00:04:37.000 When we're talking about public safety and homelessness, drug use on our streets, the average person, no matter how it is they vote, they don't look at this and say, well, that's a Democratic issue or that's a Republican issue.

00:04:48.000 They just see it as common sense.

00:04:50.000 And, you know, Spencer Pratt is able to connect Republican policies with common sense approaches.

00:04:58.000 And that's really why I'm so excited for what he's able to do.

00:05:02.000 Jason, what you just said, I think, is really the model for how conservatives, let's just call them.

00:05:07.000 Not even conservatives, let's call them common sense Americans.

00:05:09.000 Let's call them in an urban environment.

00:05:12.000 It's all local.

00:05:14.000 It's all local.

00:05:15.000 Actually, as a matter of fact, as much as I love the president, the worst thing that could have happened to Spencer Pratt was President Trump going, I heard he's MAGA.

00:05:23.000 It's like, just leave him alone, let him cook, right?

00:05:27.000 And so I would just say, what you said, I think is really, really important because so many of our American cities, you see this up close in Seattle, have gotten away from the bread and butter of just making the trains run on time.

00:05:39.000 Like cleaning up the filth, making sure people can walk the streets safely.

00:05:44.000 It's gotten so ideological that they've lost sight of just basic common sense stuff.

00:05:49.000 And I feel like that's the magic to the Spencer Pratt campaign.

00:05:53.000 Yes, he's charismatic.

00:05:54.000 Yes, he's good with media.

00:05:55.000 Yes, he's like a social media campaign, but it's getting back to the bread and butter stuff where common sense Americans are going, like, yeah, that makes sense.

00:06:02.000 You can put out a lot of really well produced videos, AI or otherwise, but if they're not talking about the issues the way that people see them, it doesn't really matter.

00:06:10.000 And that's what, like, Makes the most sense to explain why he's taking off the way that he has.

00:06:16.000 It's because he's talking about issues that people see and experience every single day.

00:06:20.000 He can get to the emotional arguments by simply saying to a parent, Do you want to feel the way you do when you're walking in a park with your kid and you're seeing someone smoking fentanyl or using a playground as a toilet?

00:06:35.000 And you don't have to lean into the emotion beyond just telling people what it is they're currently experiencing.

00:06:40.000 And it allows them to get emotional on their own.

00:06:42.000 And those are the best.

00:06:43.000 Kinds of ads.

00:06:44.000 He's obviously very clever.

00:06:45.000 He is very charismatic in these pitches, but he's just talking about things the way the average person sees them.

00:06:52.000 And there's not a single person, again, regardless of how they vote, who says to themselves, Yeah, I like the idea of going to a park that's been completely taken over by the homeless.

00:07:01.000 No one holds those positions except, I guess, radicals on the left.

00:07:05.000 I totally agree.

00:07:06.000 And, you know, it's interesting.

00:07:08.000 So much of our modern political discourse between left and right just feels like, Are you for the third world or are you for the first world?

00:07:15.000 Do you want America to look like a first world country or a third world country?

00:07:18.000 I mean, and you've got in your city, you've got a socialist mayor that just basically called on everybody to boycott Starbucks.

00:07:27.000 Like one of the established corporate entities, the heartbeat of the city.

00:07:32.000 You drive past downtown, south of downtown, you see that HQ right there with the logo on it.

00:07:40.000 She's calling to boycott Starbucks. 0.92

00:07:42.000 Now she's walking that back.

00:07:43.000 She now says it did more harm than good.

00:07:46.000 Imagine that.

00:07:47.000 Truly remarkable.

00:07:48.000 And I want to play this Spencer Pratt mashup if we have it loaded, and then I want to get your reaction on the other side.

00:07:55.000 I don't know if we're going to get it in time here.

00:07:58.000 Oh, it's loaded as 10.

00:08:00.000 Let's go ahead and run it.

00:08:01.000 Jason Rantz and your reaction on the other side.

00:08:03.000 Los Angeles doesn't have a homeless problem.

00:08:06.000 We have a drug problem.

00:08:08.000 Treat medical teams administer Narcan to reverse opioid overdoses.

00:08:12.000 It blocks the opioid receptors in the brain so the addict could shoot up as much heroin as they want.

00:08:17.000 It won't do a thing.

00:08:18.000 The problem is, Narcan only lasts for a day or two and it doesn't break the addiction cycle.

00:08:23.000 There is a longer lasting anti narcotic drug called Vivitrol that does what Narcan does, but it lasts for 30 days, giving a much better chance of breaking the addiction.

00:08:33.000 The problem is, The addict must be sober for 7 to 14 days before it can be administered.

00:08:38.000 So we have this donut hole between the 48 hours of protection with the Narcan and the two weeks of sobriety needed to administer the Vibitrol.

00:08:44.000 Step one break the cycle.

00:08:47.000 No more distribution of drug paraphernalia.

00:08:49.000 Karen Bass and Nithya Raman currently pay NGOs millions of dollars to increase drug usage and profit off the misery of these drug addicts.

00:08:57.000 I'm putting an end to this profiteering.

00:08:59.000 Currently, step two we have the laws.

00:09:02.000 We just need to use them.

00:09:03.000 Step three.

00:09:04.000 End the body brokering.

00:09:06.000 Many of the addicts you see around your neighborhood are bussed in from other states in order for local NGOs to profit off their addiction.

00:09:13.000 Step four, bring in the DEA.

00:09:15.000 We have international cartels operating in the open on our streets.

00:09:20.000 Step five, a modern treatment facility.

00:09:23.000 I've already made plans with several high-profile developers who want to donate resources to build a large, modern, and safe campus where we can administer rehab outside of our residential neighborhoods.

00:09:34.000 All right, Jason.

00:09:36.000 So the five points, just to reiterate them break the cycle.

00:09:40.000 So stop distributing drug paraphernalia, no more free needles or crack pipes.

00:09:45.000 Uphold the law.

00:09:46.000 So place illicit drug users on a 5 150 hold for 72 hours.

00:09:50.000 It's involuntary, it's a psychiatric hold.

00:09:52.000 Step three stop body brokers.

00:09:55.000 These are the NGOs that Blake and I rail against basically every day on this show that are, we think, ruining America.

00:10:00.000 They're fleecing the taxpayers, getting rich on it, whatever.

00:10:04.000 Bring in the DEA.

00:10:05.000 That's targeting international drug cartels in the streets and then building modern treatment facilities outside of residential communities so they don't bear the brunt of having a bunch of like homeless crackheads wander around the schools and the parks.

00:10:18.000 Okay.

00:10:19.000 So he's got a whole plan to build those outside.

00:10:22.000 What do you make of this five point plan, Jason Rance?

00:10:25.000 It's brilliant for one simple reason.

00:10:28.000 The left oftentimes talk about how we have to get innovative and all these.

00:10:32.000 None of what he just said is innovative.

00:10:34.000 It's just basic stuff.

00:10:35.000 It's common sense, it's doing what every single person knows needs to be done.

00:10:38.000 Like, Let's not hand out crack pipes.

00:10:41.000 I know that that is crazy.

00:10:43.000 How dare someone actually say that?

00:10:45.000 But that's literally what's going on.

00:10:47.000 Last year, I went to the King County, Seattle public health office, and I went in and I got a whole bunch of drug materials, drug paraphernalia.

00:10:56.000 I got a crack pipe.

00:10:57.000 I was given tin foil to smoke fentanyl, all of these different things.

00:11:01.000 Perhaps we should stop giving that out to drug addicts and we should actually treat them.

00:11:05.000 This whole idea that we should be handing out Narcan, not because they want to get people into treatment.

00:11:11.000 But so that they can continue to use without dying from an overdose.

00:11:16.000 They like to say all the time that we don't want to stigmatize drug addiction.

00:11:20.000 I do want to stigmatize the drug use.

00:11:22.000 I want to stigmatize that because it's going to kill these people.

00:11:22.000 Simple as that.

00:11:25.000 And I would rather have someone harmed, quote unquote, because they had their feelings hurt that we called them out for being a drug user than have them die on our streets.

00:11:33.000 And so everything that he is proposing there is going to be seen as controversial to the folks who make a whole lot of money when you've got drug addicts.

00:11:42.000 On our streets, there's this homeless industrial complex that is real, that exists, and they're the ones who are pushing the harm reduction model.

00:11:51.000 And for those of you who don't know, harm reduction is essentially a strategy, they say, to reduce the harm of illicit substance abuse so that you can get someone into treatment.

00:12:01.000 The problem, of course, on paper, that sounds great.

00:12:04.000 In reality, they never get anyone into treatment.

00:12:07.000 They don't push treatment.

00:12:08.000 They simply push making it, quote unquote, safer to continue to use drugs because they don't want to stigmatize the drug user.

00:12:14.000 It is a failed policy.

00:12:15.000 And it's exactly why we're seeing the crisis on the ground as bad as we're seeing it across the country.

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:21.000 The third worlding of the United States starts with.

00:12:26.000 Allowing chaos, drug use, crime, filth to reign supreme.

00:12:30.000 And if you look at just spending totals, you would think that the Democrats really do care because they do throw a lot of money at this.

00:12:36.000 I assure you they care.

00:12:37.000 They care because, as you said, the homeless industrial complex.

00:12:40.000 Like last year, Los Angeles, they spent about $418 million on stuff that you'd say is homeless related.

00:12:50.000 Well, if you just run the numbers by the addicts, that's something like $15,000, $20,000 per homeless person.

00:12:56.000 It's a homeless person.

00:12:57.000 You can take it over longer times and.

00:12:59.000 All the stuff that comes into it.

00:13:00.000 Billions, certainly billions if you include what the hospitals have to pay for it, what a lot of institutions end up shelling out, but just the government there.

00:13:08.000 And that money's obviously not going to the homeless individuals.

00:13:11.000 It's going to these NGOs that are fighting homelessness.

00:13:16.000 I'd be tempted to add a sixth point to this, which he probably won't, but a sixth point for ending homelessness might as well be cut anti homelessness spending to zero.

00:13:25.000 You can have law enforcement budget, you can have drug enforcement budget, you can have treatment centers for people who are addicted, but.

00:13:32.000 Anything that's going to be branded as fighting homelessness, I would posit that there is a direct relationship.

00:13:38.000 The more you spend on fighting homelessness, the more homeless people you have.

00:13:41.000 You are funding an apparatus of parasitic individuals who don't want to end homelessness, who want to enable all of those suicidal behaviors.

00:13:51.000 LA has spent, over the past decades, billions of dollars fighting homelessness.

00:13:55.000 What's the result?

00:13:56.000 They have 60,000 homeless people in LA County.

00:13:58.000 60,000, and I think it's 40,000 in Los Angeles itself.

00:14:02.000 That would be the.

00:14:03.000 I think that would be the second largest city in the state I'm from.

00:14:06.000 South Dakota.

00:14:08.000 So, what's interesting, though, is his tone.

00:14:10.000 He's saying you would never do this to your son or daughter.

00:14:12.000 You would never do this to a family member.

00:14:15.000 You would never enable their addiction.

00:14:18.000 And he's saying, guess what?

00:14:19.000 We're going to use the laws on the books to mandate these arrests.

00:14:25.000 Basically, he's saying that the laws already exist where we can take these people off the streets, force them to get clean, use these better drugs to force that they don't relapse.

00:14:33.000 But we're not doing that right now.

00:14:34.000 He calls it a donut hole.

00:14:36.000 So, it's compassion with practical accountability and application of the current laws.

00:14:42.000 Wouldn't that be really that?

00:14:44.000 Yeah, you don't really have to do anything beyond what you can do right now, but you're choosing not to.

00:14:51.000 That's right.

00:14:52.000 Arguably, the only thing you would need to do is maybe put some more resources into detox facilities because, unfortunately, they have chosen not to do that up until this point.

00:15:00.000 But you've got all the laws on the books that you need.

00:15:03.000 You just need enforcement, you need actual enforcement.

00:15:05.000 And oftentimes, every once in a while, there'll be a sweep of some homeless encampment, whether it's LA or Seattle or anywhere else.

00:15:11.000 But you're not pushing them into treatment.

00:15:13.000 You're just pushing them literally in some cases across the street for them to reset a new camp.

00:15:18.000 And then you say, oh, look, we've made our contact, we've offered them resources, but they're not going to take you up on your resources if you make it so easy to continue to be a homeless drug addict.

00:15:28.000 You actually have to have a carrot and stick approach in every single jurisdiction that has done that.

00:15:34.000 And that includes San Diego, in some cases, Austin, Marysville, Washington.

00:15:39.000 They actually take a harder line approach to this and they see actual data.

00:15:43.000 Orange County is another great example.

00:15:45.000 If you are right now in this nonprofit space and you're working with the homeless and you're getting these big contracts, I'm okay with nonprofits getting the contracts.

00:15:54.000 You actually have to show that you have results.

00:15:56.000 And so if you've been in charge this entire time and homelessness has gotten worse, you do not get to continue cashing those checks.

00:16:03.000 I want these groups to understand they need to put themselves out of business.

00:16:08.000 But you've got a lot of groups that continue to get a whole lot of money because they know that homelessness doesn't have to get better under their watch.

00:16:14.000 They have job security.

00:16:15.000 I want to take away that job security.

00:16:17.000 And the most dedicated people are the ones who know that they're going to try to put themselves out of work when they approach homelessness with the actual end goal of ending it.

00:16:26.000 Well, listen, I think Spencer Pratt's running a great campaign, Jason.

00:16:30.000 Check him out at SeattleRed.com.

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00:17:56.000 Rich Barris, Big Data Poll.

00:17:59.000 He's also the author of the book, Burn It Down, which is quite the title.

00:18:05.000 But, Rich, you've been doing.

00:18:07.000 Okay, so I wanted to have you on the show because there's been so much made of this Massey fight, and you've been kind of waving the banner out there saying.

00:18:19.000 Increasingly, there is this disconnect between America First and MAGA, those who identify as America First versus MAGA.

00:18:28.000 Now, I have a perspective on this and what's really happening, but I want to pick your brain.

00:18:32.000 What do you think is driving more and more people identifying as America First as opposed to MAGA?

00:18:38.000 Well, Andrew, and as always, thanks for having me on.

00:18:41.000 I think the Massey defeat settled a lot of this for me and what's going on.

00:18:49.000 Look, I think that MAGA has changed.

00:18:52.000 And who identifies as MAGA has changed.

00:18:56.000 In the case of Thomas Massey, that was a problem for him because they changed into older white voters who tend to vote at higher rates in primaries.

00:19:07.000 And if you are still wanting, if you're not a traditional Republican and you lean to the right, you may be mad and upset about some things that have been going on.

00:19:17.000 So when you get the chance, you'll identify as America first instead.

00:19:22.000 And I think that is a.

00:19:25.000 An issue for the Republican Party.

00:19:26.000 A midterm was always going to be tough, Andrew.

00:19:28.000 We talked so much in 24 about the low prop voters, getting these low proposition voters out, propensity voters out.

00:19:36.000 And under 45, millennials and down were so key to Donald Trump winning.

00:19:40.000 And that was always going to be a challenge.

00:19:42.000 This is what I want to get into here.

00:19:44.000 Okay.

00:19:44.000 Because I texted you and we talked a little bit, and I said, I'm tempted, Rich, to say you were wrong about Massey.

00:19:51.000 And you were like, I wasn't wrong.

00:19:55.000 I mean, no, but okay.

00:19:56.000 Because you had it at about 50 50, to be fair.

00:19:59.000 You were calling it either way.

00:20:01.000 But what happened that surprised you in that race?

00:20:04.000 Okay.

00:20:04.000 So this is why I called it at 50 50.

00:20:07.000 Even though any pollster who has polled Republican primaries knows that you should drop out younger people and make sure. 1.00

00:20:14.000 The old electorate. 1.00

00:20:15.000 Why we didn't do that was the entire point is because Kentucky Four is filled with young voters who do vote in primaries.

00:20:24.000 They have vote history.

00:20:26.000 So we gave them the benefit of the doubt and kept them in there.

00:20:29.000 All right.

00:20:30.000 So it goes to what I'm saying here.

00:20:32.000 I guess I was wrong because the problem with young voters is worse than I thought it was, which isn't what people want to hear.

00:20:40.000 But we have seen this in other races.

00:20:42.000 And it's why I was telling my people as we were doing the poll and doing the videos, I was.

00:20:48.000 Really reluctant.

00:20:49.000 Like, I was pretty certain that that would, you know, that this would be my first miss because it is my first miss.

00:20:55.000 All right.

00:20:56.000 So, let me, let me, I'm just going to make sure I'm translating it for the layman at home.

00:21:00.000 So, you were looking at the numbers and we saw this that every group under 65 favored Massey significantly.

00:21:07.000 Like, it wasn't even close, actually.

00:21:09.000 But over 65, that you could call them the Boomer Cons, you could call them the Fox Cons, whatever you want to call them. 0.98

00:21:16.000 They, that group favored Galran. 0.93

00:21:19.000 By a sizable margin.

00:21:21.000 It was like a tale of two electorates.

00:21:24.000 It was over 65 and under 65.

00:21:26.000 You're saying what happened was you were including in your poll predictions that the younger voters were going to turn out in something similar to what we saw in the midterm because Massey had great appeal with young people.

00:21:40.000 You figured that Massey would be enough to overcome the nihilism, but he wasn't.

00:21:45.000 They still didn't turn up and turn out for this primary.

00:21:49.000 And why do you think they didn't show up?

00:21:51.000 So, what ended up happening was.

00:21:53.000 Over 65, over indexed. 0.97

00:21:55.000 They punched above their weight. 0.99

00:21:56.000 20 points.

00:21:57.000 20 points, guys.

00:21:58.000 So they're 25% of registered Republicans, 65 and above.

00:22:03.000 They're going to come in at 45%. 0.61

00:22:05.000 The Generation X, and this was the Trump people, they do this.

00:22:08.000 This is like MO, and they're very good at it. 0.69

00:22:12.000 They target specifically that 62 and above.

00:22:15.000 And then if they're hitting Gen X, it's low propensity Gen X that they know are loyal to the president.

00:22:20.000 So, and I mean on the older end of that, guys.

00:22:23.000 So like the 55 to 61.

00:22:25.000 Right.

00:22:26.000 So they nailed it and they did incredible.

00:22:28.000 So even getting that side of Gen X out, see, you can even see this there.

00:22:32.000 Even Gen X supported Massey slightly. 0.66

00:22:35.000 But what I think we're going to learn that they probably slightly supported Gall rim because the Trump campaign did such a good job getting out just their Gen Xers. 0.56

00:22:44.000 And this is the risk I took, brother. 0.65

00:22:46.000 This was the risk I took $35 million almost, like let's call it $32, spent in a primary, which is ungodly.

00:22:53.000 Sometimes when you're doing that, it can backfire and you target those ads to the old Fox Boomer cons.

00:23:00.000 But because the race gets so much national attention, it ends up backfiring and you wind up driving higher turnout up anyway.

00:23:07.000 The 18 to 29s, we all have 4 or 5% of the vote.

00:23:11.000 They're going to fall to like two, Andrew.

00:23:13.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:23:13.000 So they just are normally 8% in a Republican primary?

00:23:18.000 That's 8%.

00:23:19.000 The 18 to 29 in that race was an 80 20 split.

00:23:23.000 It's 80% in favor of Massey, 20% for Galrin.

00:23:26.000 Yeah.

00:23:27.000 Yeah.

00:23:27.000 You're telling me they're going to come, they're only going to account for 2% of the.

00:23:30.000 The primary electorate there?

00:23:33.000 I'm telling you, when all this is said and done, they're usually six to eight, and in some cases, could rise as high as 10.

00:23:38.000 They make up 14% of the overall registered vote, but they did not vote.

00:23:45.000 And 30 to 44, they're like 23.

00:23:48.000 And I bet you they come in at like 11.

00:23:50.000 And sorry, I don't mean to talk over you, Rich.

00:23:52.000 I'm just so fascinated by this topic.

00:23:54.000 So, obviously, at Turning Point, that's what we're focused on, the young people.

00:23:58.000 And I've been warning people, I've been trying to shake people saying, we've got nihilism setting in.

00:24:05.000 Yes.

00:24:06.000 It's not that our kids, it's the kids that are interacting with it, tabling, right? 0.62

00:24:10.000 It's the kids that come up to their booth and they go, Defend Epstein, defend the Iran war.

00:24:17.000 And it's like you're talking to a wall. 0.61

00:24:20.000 So, my point is like the larger Gen Z electorate is it just that you're seeing that they opt out?

00:24:27.000 And you were actually a little bit more optimistic.

00:24:28.000 You're like, hey, they still believe because it's Massey.

00:24:32.000 Is it so Nihilistic? 0.99

00:24:34.000 Is it so black pilled that they're just like, screw it? 0.99

00:24:37.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:24:38.000 I mean, I think that, guys, this primary answered it.

00:24:41.000 There were 105,000 votes.

00:24:43.000 65 plus is going to end up being.

00:24:47.000 You know, a ridiculous share of that.

00:24:49.000 There are only 72,000 of them registered in that district.

00:24:54.000 They voted at extremely high rates, and people under 45 did not.

00:24:58.000 I mean, if they're not going to come out for Massey, we have a huge problem. 0.95

00:25:01.000 And this is not something that hasn't happened elsewhere.

00:25:05.000 We've actually seen this in primaries and in specials now for the last two almost going on. 1.00

00:25:10.000 I was going to ask, yeah, Rich, what about like Indiana primaries where we got rid of all those rhinos? 1.00

00:25:17.000 Is the same thing there? 1.00

00:25:20.000 What about the Paxton Cornyn, Wesley Hunt?

00:25:24.000 Okay.

00:25:25.000 Yeah.

00:25:26.000 I mean, meaning old. 0.75

00:25:28.000 It wasn't a terrible turnout for Republicans. 0.56

00:25:30.000 And this is what I was trying to explain to people when I saw that Democrats outvoted Republicans in Texas.

00:25:35.000 It's not that it was a terrible, normal primary turnout in Texas for Republicans.

00:25:40.000 It was terrible compared to what we knew we needed to do with the coalition after 24.

00:25:46.000 There were challenges.

00:25:47.000 Like, you can't.

00:25:48.000 Going along to get along without Donald Trump on the ballot is not going to work. 0.95

00:25:53.000 We have to start to see evidence that without Trump on the ballot, these younger people still come out. 0.91

00:25:58.000 These non white people still vote. 0.76

00:26:00.000 They're not. 0.83

00:26:00.000 I mean, it gave you this stat before because race matters too, because the younger, and you guys know this, older America is whiter, younger America is less white. 0.83

00:26:10.000 So when you see in 24, 42% of Hispanics in Georgia pull Democratic ballots, now compared to last Tuesday, 75% of Hispanics.

00:26:21.000 Coupled on top of New Jersey, which we saw this too, coupled on top of Texas, which we got blown out in Trump's Hispanic Southern Texas counties.

00:26:29.000 This is a massive problem. 0.81

00:26:31.000 You can't be a man. 0.98

00:26:32.000 What's driving Hispanics away? 0.94

00:26:34.000 What's driving Hispanics away?

00:26:35.000 What? 0.63

00:26:36.000 They wanted a domestic agenda, Andrew.

00:26:39.000 They wanted a domestic agenda.

00:26:41.000 And it's funny because we did this huge study on immigration and dealing with ICE even long before it became news headlines.

00:26:49.000 And they weren't happy and they wanted some things changed, but immediately the Conventional wisdom so well, it's because of how we were deporting people, and it's not.

00:26:59.000 If we changed a few things on how deportations were being handled, they would have been perfectly fine with it. 0.99

00:27:04.000 They still majority support deep mass deportations, Hispanic Americans, guys. 1.00

00:27:10.000 They still majority support it. 0.94

00:27:12.000 It's just that they felt that this administration, after three, maybe five months, just completely gave up on the domestic agenda.

00:27:20.000 I mean, there's no, I can't glaze it, you know, like that.

00:27:23.000 That's it.

00:27:24.000 They wanted to talk about affordability, economic affordability.

00:27:27.000 Yep.

00:27:28.000 So do you think?

00:27:28.000 I mean, the breaking news today is that Warsh is taking over as Fed chairman.

00:27:33.000 Trump's promising that he's going to, you know, super growth of the economy, new POV, getting rid of Jerome Powell.

00:27:40.000 I mean, those are the right messaging notes to hit that, you know, change is coming, a regime change at the Fed.

00:27:46.000 Maybe we can supercharge some growth.

00:27:48.000 Needs to happen soon, though.

00:27:50.000 It needs to happen soon.

00:27:52.000 Really?

00:27:52.000 The hour's late.

00:27:53.000 You know, it's May 22nd.

00:27:54.000 The hour is late.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, I don't disagree, Rich.

00:27:57.000 I don't disagree.

00:27:57.000 You know what's crazy here, Rich?

00:27:59.000 I'm just seeing this, I guess, this new Fox News poll.

00:28:03.000 18 to 29 year olds are minus 10.

00:28:08.000 On border security being better now than under Biden.

00:28:13.000 What the heck do you make of that?

00:28:14.000 Like, that's like just anger.

00:28:17.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:28:18.000 It doesn't.

00:28:19.000 And honestly, our registered voter economic confidence index, I saw it with others.

00:28:25.000 I think it was Gallup and the consumer sentiment index.

00:28:28.000 We know for a fact the border is better under Donald Trump.

00:28:32.000 We know for a fact that certain economic indicators, including inflation, Is better under Donald Trump.

00:28:38.000 It's maybe not great.

00:28:39.000 It's not what they want to see, but we know it's better.

00:28:42.000 I mean, it was a period in 2022, I believe it was May of 22, when we shot up to nearly 10% on one month for inflation.

00:28:51.000 So this is anger.

00:28:52.000 This is because what are you angry about?

00:28:56.000 Joe Biden didn't run on putting America first and putting affordability first and fixing the economy, going back to the pre COVID economy, which is an unfair expectation of Donald Trump to just come in.

00:29:09.000 And wave like this magic wand and put it back to a pre COVID economy.

00:29:13.000 COVID structurally damaged our economy.

00:29:15.000 So I feel like that was an unfair expectation.

00:29:18.000 But as the job of a campaign and then as a White House's job, from a messaging point of view, that's your job to frame that correctly so people understand that and don't hold too high of expectations of you.

00:29:30.000 And they haven't done that.

00:29:32.000 But this is just because they, listen, guys, I said this the other night and I think it stuck and I hope it did.

00:29:41.000 We need to start to appreciate the level of despair and desperation almost that a lot of these younger voters had and took with them to go vote for Donald Trump and JD Vance.

00:29:55.000 A lot of these voters, especially under 45, felt like these guys, this ticket, was their last chance at riding the ship, renewing American prosperity, and getting their American dream back.

00:30:06.000 They feel like their inheritance has been squandered by a selfish older generation and a ruling class who does it at their expense.

00:30:13.000 And they're.

00:30:15.000 They're pissed.

00:30:16.000 They're mad.

00:30:17.000 I mean, it's not.

00:30:18.000 I mean, that's.

00:30:19.000 I have tried now for months to try to get people to understand and try to get people to see.

00:30:25.000 And now, unfortunately, we're starting to see the fruits of it.

00:30:30.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 Well, you've got a new polling out, Rich, out of Minnesota, which I think is interesting because you've got this huge DOJ crackdown.

00:30:38.000 You've got the task force hitting fraud.

00:30:40.000 You've got all this kind of stuff going on.

00:30:43.000 And you have a new poll here.

00:30:44.000 Yeah, we just threw it up.

00:30:45.000 What are we looking at here?

00:30:47.000 Because you're polling governor of Minnesota, which is an interesting thing for you to poll, Rich.

00:30:52.000 It is.

00:30:52.000 I love polling Minnesota.

00:30:53.000 For those who have followed me for a long time, it is my great white whale.

00:30:57.000 I have forever thought that Donald Trump was like the perfect candidate on the Republican side to win the state of Minnesota.

00:31:05.000 And I actually think that there are some potential bright spots in Minnesota in the midterms, where Republicans are looking around the map wondering where can we make gains.

00:31:14.000 Well, you have a perfect narrative brewing.

00:31:16.000 For the governor of Minnesota.

00:31:18.000 We did poll this to see where Mike was.

00:31:22.000 Mike Lindell leads Lisa DeMuth, which is incredible.

00:31:24.000 Lisa is the Speaker, the Minnesota Speaker of the House of Representatives.

00:31:29.000 And why does Mike Lindell lead her?

00:31:32.000 Because the base is looking for a fight.

00:31:36.000 They want a fight.

00:31:37.000 And I think that's what it comes down to.

00:31:39.000 They know Mike is, you know, outspoken and they want somebody to stand up.

00:31:48.000 So you're telling me the pillow guy, Mike Lindell, my pillow is.

00:31:53.000 So I've.

00:31:53.000 Okay.

00:31:54.000 So just devil's advocate here, Rich.

00:31:56.000 I've seen.

00:31:56.000 And by the way, we love Mike.

00:31:57.000 And Mike's a great fighter and a friend.

00:32:00.000 No disrespect.

00:32:02.000 I just hadn't paid attention to this race yet, and you were telling me you got to look at it.

00:32:06.000 I have seen some polls that have Mike down in the polls.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, so there are some that show him maybe running second or third place.

00:32:17.000 So this is brand new off the press, though, right?

00:32:20.000 Yeah, we came out of the field on the 20th with this.

00:32:24.000 I mean, look, it was tighter maybe than Ike's.

00:32:28.000 I honestly expected him to be running away with name ID, but he's not the Mike MyPillow guy.

00:32:34.000 He's the Mike election fraud fighter in the minds of a lot of base Republicans.

00:32:39.000 Yeah.

00:32:40.000 Lisa leads in, and that's interesting you say that because I do know somebody else who pulled it too and also had Lindell up by a little bit more than us, but we're two points.

00:32:52.000 So what happens in a state like Minnesota?

00:32:54.000 I mean, and I agree with you.

00:32:56.000 The reason I wanted to go into this with you is because you've got all this fraud.

00:33:00.000 Tim Waltz backs against the wall.

00:33:02.000 People are fed up with it.

00:33:03.000 It's become ground zero for so much of the left v. right.

00:33:07.000 Fight in this country.

00:33:08.000 The third worlding of America is like, you know, little Mogadishu is Minneapolis, right?

00:33:13.000 So you're kind of asking yourself, is this like one of these weird Trojan horses?

00:33:17.000 Is this like a dark horse, rather, that could kind of come out of the left field and surprise us come November?

00:33:23.000 What happens with Trump's endorsement in a state like Minnesota?

00:33:26.000 Yeah.

00:33:26.000 And let me just, with the endorsement, this race is over.

00:33:30.000 I mean, Lindell takes like a 20 point lead.

00:33:33.000 It's interesting you just brought up the Twin Cities.

00:33:35.000 You know, Lisa leads in the Twin Cities and Mike leads everywhere else.

00:33:39.000 It's not like super, super, you know, blowout territory.

00:33:42.000 There's a lot of votes, even on the Republican primary.

00:33:44.000 There's a lot of votes in the Twin Cities and Twin City burbs.

00:33:47.000 But that goes to show you, you know, I mean, it's typical establishment support for an establishment candidate in and around the Twin City area.

00:33:55.000 And then everywhere else, East Central, the South, the North, Lindell leads.

00:34:00.000 With Trump's endorsement, yeah, I did give the, I mean, I don't know if you guys got it, but with Trump's endorsement, what I noticed is that it's not just that some other candidates lose support, it's that the undecideds really do.

00:34:14.000 They're cut in half.

00:34:16.000 There's still a lot of undecideds in this race, a lot.

00:34:19.000 And with Donald Trump coming out and giving his endorsement to Lindell, it blows it out of the water.

00:34:24.000 Interestingly enough, and we didn't put it out yet, it doesn't really help other candidates.

00:34:30.000 Of course, it does.

00:34:31.000 Rich, we got the graph right.

00:34:33.000 So this is actually with Trump's endorsement.

00:34:35.000 So if you did like a before and after, you see they're relatively close.

00:34:39.000 Trump's endorsement holds a lot of weight in this race, it looks like.

00:34:42.000 It does.

00:34:43.000 And there are a lot of Republicans in Minnesota who are Trump's.

00:34:47.000 Republicans, which is weird because you think of Minnesota and you guys remember Bobby's World, don't you know, Bobby, right?

00:34:52.000 Minnesota nice, almost like Wisconsin nice kind of thing.

00:34:56.000 They, you know, there's two, there really are two Republican parties in Minnesota.

00:35:01.000 There's the one that's been there, you know, the Senator Coleman, right?

00:35:05.000 Remember Norm?

00:35:07.000 There's that side of the Republican Party, the Tim, oh my goodness, I'm sorry, Tim, I'm forgetting your last name.

00:35:13.000 Well, NT, what was his name?

00:35:15.000 You remember he was the governor for years.

00:35:17.000 And he ran for Blake, but he wound up going down.

00:35:20.000 Yeah, Tim Pawlenty.

00:35:21.000 Tim Pawlenty.

00:35:21.000 I remember.

00:35:22.000 Well, in Tim Pawlenty, I was right here.

00:35:23.000 It was the great hope of 2012 until the straw poll and no one had heard of Tim Pawlenty.

00:35:28.000 That's it.

00:35:29.000 And then you have the new era, which is interesting because, again, this is a perfect prime.

00:35:36.000 I think it's prime, the state of Minnesota.

00:35:38.000 You have hundreds of thousands of Trump voters who are difficult to get out in a midterm.

00:35:42.000 And if Republicans did ever focus on getting them out, those are Trump like Republicans in Minnesota, then they would win.

00:35:49.000 If they would pay more attention to this state, guys, they may be pleasantly surprised.

00:35:52.000 2016 was a hair.

00:35:55.000 Even 24 got much closer.

00:35:58.000 It's not a state that I think Republicans should give up on.

00:36:00.000 Fascinating poll.

00:36:01.000 I do agree.

00:36:02.000 It could be a dark horse and we should pay more attention to it.

00:36:05.000 Rich Bearest, big data poll, the People's Pundit.

00:36:07.000 Thanks, my friend.

00:36:08.000 We'll see you soon.

00:36:08.000 Thanks, brother.

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00:38:39.000 Everybody's favorite culture analyst, expert.

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00:38:44.000 Yeah.

00:38:45.000 You're basically the only one we have. 0.99

00:38:46.000 We need to do another No Stupid Questions and another Pop Culture Power. 0.99

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00:38:53.000 We have Mikey McCoy joining us.

00:38:55.000 We're not getting emails about him.

00:38:56.000 We're not getting emails asking, Where's Mikey?

00:38:59.000 I want to have him on the show again.

00:39:01.000 I'm the not so special guest.

00:39:03.000 That is not true.

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00:39:12.000 Back by popular demand.

00:39:13.000 Place, you know, you know, you did a baby moon.

00:39:16.000 You did a baby moon.

00:39:17.000 I did.

00:39:18.000 This is amazing.

00:39:19.000 Have we talked about this?

00:39:20.000 Okay, I think that's our first public announcement that there would be a baby to moon over.

00:39:24.000 So, yes, what's yeah, yeah, there's a baby to moon over.

00:39:27.000 It is funny, though, how many people are like, What's a baby moon?

00:39:30.000 What's a lazy moon? 0.59

00:39:31.000 I know it's like a millennial and below.

00:39:34.000 It's like a millennial and below.

00:39:36.000 So I want to get your emails now freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com. 0.89

00:39:41.000 Send us your emails of what you want Mikey and Elizabeth to name their child.

00:39:45.000 I was thinking Andrew and Blake combined.

00:39:48.000 Maybe we'll ask Grok.

00:39:49.000 Well, Blake had already chosen for me that she had to be a turning point baby.

00:39:54.000 So you can't take that one.

00:39:55.000 Okay.

00:39:56.000 Is that a turning point baby?

00:39:58.000 As long as you don't name me.

00:39:58.000 Oh, yeah, Turning Point Baby.

00:39:59.000 That's what we're going to name you. 1.00

00:40:02.000 Blandrew. 0.70

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00:40:06.000 Blandrew?

00:40:06.000 That sounds like a name someone might come up with, too.

00:40:09.000 Drake?

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00:40:14.000 He is?

00:40:14.000 Yeah, he's following JD on Instagram, liking conservatives.

00:40:18.000 Nicki Minaj.

00:40:19.000 I'm a pop culture person.

00:40:20.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.

00:40:23.000 Okay, I'm teaching the pop culture guru something right now.

00:40:26.000 That's crazy.

00:40:27.000 All right.

00:40:28.000 Yeah.

00:40:29.000 Caboose goes, yeah, but Drake is Canadian.

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00:40:34.000 Listen, it is our Ask Us Anything hour.

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00:41:20.000 David.

00:41:21.000 David, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:41:22.000 Unmute yourself.

00:41:23.000 And what's your question?

00:41:26.000 My question is first of all, thanks for what you do.

00:41:30.000 My question is you talked about, I wanted to know a little bit more about the Thomas Massey.

00:41:38.000 Loss and what's your thoughts on that?

00:41:42.000 I got so many thoughts.

00:41:44.000 You know, it's interesting, David.

00:41:45.000 I've been accused, I think the organization's been accused, Erica's been accused of betraying Charlie by not coming out and endorsing one way or the other and not being more involved in that race.

00:41:56.000 I will tell you, and I haven't said this publicly, but the, and I know this isn't necessarily a question, but it's an opportunity to address it.

00:42:04.000 But, you know, after the one big beautiful bill vote, You know, and I want to respect Charlie's privacy as well.

00:42:10.000 It's always the tension in all of this.

00:42:12.000 You know, there's private conversations.

00:42:14.000 Charlie was a fan of Thomas Massey, especially historically, liked him on war, liked him on being a budget hawk and spending.

00:42:22.000 But he was pretty frustrated that Massey didn't vote in the affirmative on the big, beautiful bill because it was essentially the totality of President Trump's first year agenda wrapped into one bill.

00:42:34.000 And I will just say privately, Charlie was really, really frustrated.

00:42:38.000 Yeah, I think that's the right way to put it.

00:42:40.000 And I think he would have become more frustrated over.

00:42:43.000 The events of the past nine months, which is we liked what Massey said.

00:42:47.000 We liked his libertarian credentials.

00:42:48.000 We liked him making the debt clock that ran on the Willis Pelton.

00:42:51.000 And I still like Massey. 0.77

00:42:52.000 And there's so many things to like about him, but he has, especially over the past few months, he's become the number one, let's put it, Republican gadfly, Republican who gets in Trump's way, criticizes Trump, and not just on debt or the war, but also on Epstein saying that there's this pedophile class that Trump is.

00:43:13.000 Allied to essentially, and I think Charlie would have been, as you said, very frustrated.

00:43:20.000 He would have, and Charlie was not a guy who would feud publicly.

00:43:23.000 He would have certainly been messaging Massey about that and being like, what's going on here?

00:43:27.000 And he would have been very concerned with it.

00:43:29.000 We don't know exactly what he'd say.

00:43:31.000 Yeah, I don't know either.

00:43:32.000 Us being honest about it.

00:43:33.000 Yeah, but I will tell you that I had some very candid conversations after the big, beautiful bill where he voiced his frustration to me privately.

00:43:42.000 I think, you know, the big concern with the Massey vote is the breakdown in generations.

00:43:50.000 We just had Rich Barris on and we were talking about it.

00:43:52.000 We, What you saw was anybody under 65 supported Thomas Massey, but they didn't show up.

00:43:58.000 And so that's a huge, huge issue.

00:44:00.000 And in our position, sometimes we are, sometimes our role is to be the voice of the Gen Z voter, 18 to 29.

00:44:08.000 And sometimes our role is to try and encourage them in a better way of thinking, right?

00:44:13.000 And so sometimes we're out here saying, hey, they've got a really good point.

00:44:17.000 And it is the affordability crisis really hard.

00:44:20.000 They're not economic incumbents.

00:44:21.000 They don't have a leg up.

00:44:22.000 They don't have their securities.

00:44:23.000 They don't have their stocks and bonds and their properties.

00:44:25.000 So, you got to find a way to help them get their foot in the door, right?

00:44:29.000 Okay, that's a valid critique.

00:44:30.000 Okay, that's where we get to be the voice of Gen Z and sort of try and make their voice louder, make people in power understand and listen and acknowledge it.

00:44:40.000 When it comes to Epstein, and I'm open, listen, I've been a little bit more in the.

00:44:46.000 Me and Blake kind of have a different team.

00:44:47.000 We go back and forth.

00:44:48.000 Yeah, we go back and forth.

00:44:49.000 Blake is very much like there's no there, there, and it's, you know, at least not the blackmail ring of pedophiles for the billionaire class.

00:44:57.000 And I've been more open to, like, okay, did he work with the CIA?

00:45:00.000 Like, who was involved?

00:45:01.000 Who was enabling him? 0.70

00:45:02.000 But I do think on a bigger level, when I'm trying to encourage Gen Z, it's like we have to deal in the realm of facts.

00:45:08.000 There's too many people that are dealing in conspiracies and kind of going off the rails here.

00:45:13.000 And the realm of facts is that Trump has been vindicated in a lot of ways. 0.98

00:45:18.000 This guy was a creep. 0.86

00:45:19.000 Trump, early saying, hey, he's messing around with young girls here. 0.97

00:45:22.000 Go check him out.

00:45:23.000 He was willing to work with authorities, work with the FBI early on.

00:45:27.000 There's embarrassing stuff in there.

00:45:29.000 People have been forced to resign.

00:45:32.000 If there's criminal stuff there, I want it addressed, absolutely.

00:45:37.000 But in terms of this larger conspiracy where it's like 5D chess and you've got Masonic temples and cults and the Knights Templar and Israel all boiling, it's just like it's not what the data points to yet or ever, maybe.

00:45:53.000 And maybe there's a part where we're just not going to know.

00:45:56.000 And it's not an issue worth blackpilling about.

00:45:59.000 You look at Massey.

00:46:00.000 Rich Bear said that the young people just aren't showing up.

00:46:02.000 His models were wrong because he assumed some were going to show up because it's Massey.

00:46:05.000 Young people like Massey.

00:46:07.000 But they didn't.

00:46:08.000 And so, what I'm saying, my message to the Massey young supporters is do not black pill over one race.

00:46:14.000 I mean, Massey's not going anywhere.

00:46:15.000 He's going to be a podcaster.

00:46:16.000 Maybe he runs for president.

00:46:18.000 Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

00:46:20.000 Do not give up on America because you're upset about Epstein.

00:46:23.000 And I think there's a real thing to be said for a defeatist mindset in the country that people.

00:46:31.000 We talk about victimhood culture and that manifests personally, but it manifests politically as well to say, ooh, President Trump betrayed us on everything.

00:46:39.000 Well, no.

00:46:40.000 President Trump has delivered on the border in a big way.

00:46:42.000 He delivered on no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security.

00:46:45.000 He's delivered on DEI, weaponization of government.

00:46:50.000 He's done a ton of things that he promised to do.

00:46:54.000 And I should add, frankly, he actually didn't really campaign on the Epstein that a lot of his supporters did.

00:46:59.000 He was asked about it once in an interview and he said, I'd be inclined to make it public.

00:47:04.000 And then, when he felt like the jig was up and it was being used as a political hot potato against him, he started getting more animated against it.

00:47:14.000 Just really quick, breaking news Tulsi Gabbard has resigned from her role as director of national intelligence.

00:47:23.000 Her husband, Abraham, has been diagnosed with an extremely rare form of bone cancer.

00:47:28.000 And so this appears to be why she's leaving.

00:47:32.000 Now, there's been a lot of speculation about whether she was going to make it through the midterms.

00:47:36.000 I've been hearing privately.

00:47:38.000 I don't know if that was why the rumors began in the first place, but certainly I've met her husband.

00:47:44.000 He's really a tremendous guy and just.

00:47:46.000 Very lovable, very solid, not seeking the limelight.

00:47:50.000 So, God bless him.

00:47:52.000 We pray for him.

00:47:53.000 We pray for Tulsi Gabbard as she pays the attention that her family needs right now, it seems.

00:47:59.000 And so, kind of a sad reason for that to be happening, certainly.

00:48:03.000 And it says effective June 30th.

00:48:07.000 You just, you never know how many days you got, and you got to take care of your health.

00:48:12.000 And when something like this happens with your family, I totally support this.

00:48:16.000 It's such a difficult role, by the way, DNI.

00:48:19.000 You're basically, you know, Babysitting all the intel agencies that don't want to be babysat.

00:48:24.000 Don't want to be babysat, don't want to be policed, don't want to listen when you tell them to do things.

00:48:29.000 Stop being the dictator. 0.90

00:48:30.000 Whoever replaces her, we want someone who will boss them around and bully them because the agencies are in need of that.

00:48:37.000 They are very out of control.

00:48:39.000 And let's be real, they think they should be above democratic policing, above control.

00:48:47.000 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.

00:48:49.000 And I mean, it's one of those things where I just, I really.

00:48:54.000 I know Abraham, and so it's hard to hear this story and not make it personal.

00:48:58.000 He's legitimately a great guy.

00:49:01.000 I want to get a picture of him up there.

00:49:03.000 That's why I'm looking down at my computer here.

00:49:07.000 He's a surfer, he's a filmmaker.

00:49:09.000 I mean, he's like, he is the most quintessentially Hawaiian dude that you can imagine.

00:49:15.000 And so he's just great.

00:49:17.000 So we really do pray for him.

00:49:20.000 And I think he's the strength, oftentimes, that Tulsi's needed in one of the most difficult jobs in Washington.

00:49:26.000 So.

00:49:27.000 Yeah, God bless them, and we pray they're okay.

00:49:30.000 Confirmed her last day is expected to be June 30th.

00:49:33.000 So she has about a month left.

00:49:34.000 Okay.

00:49:35.000 So a month left with Tulsi, which should be enough time to hopefully get somebody else up and running.

00:49:40.000 But again, it's the most incredibly difficult job.

00:49:44.000 Do we still have David on?

00:49:46.000 Yeah, I'm still here.

00:49:47.000 All right, David, did we answer your question when we were talking about Thomas Massey?

00:49:51.000 Definitely.

00:49:52.000 Definitely.

00:49:53.000 Good points there.

00:49:54.000 Mikey, you got a point to make.

00:49:56.000 No, yeah.

00:49:56.000 I just, I was sharing in the break about how Bill Montgomery, one of Charlie's, Mentors.

00:50:02.000 There's this story Charlie would always tell about how Bill walked into his office one day and he was talking about like mutinies and employees and people in politics.

00:50:11.000 And he goes, Charlie, very important lesson.

00:50:14.000 Insubordination must never be tolerated.

00:50:17.000 And then Charlie goes, then he says, now let's drink Starbucks.

00:50:20.000 And that's like the story.

00:50:21.000 But when you have 200 and it used to be 18, it's 217 now, members of Congress, Republicans, and there's one president that leads the party, we can't afford to have even one of those 217 have their own agenda.

00:50:34.000 And so, even though I agree on like 95% of the politics that Thomas Massey has, get in line.

00:50:40.000 Like, the president has an agenda.

00:50:43.000 He was elected by the people to enact that agenda.

00:50:47.000 And so, get in line.

00:50:49.000 And if you don't, then everybody knows who this president is.

00:50:52.000 He is going to come after you.

00:50:54.000 That he will.

00:50:55.000 Are we shocked that the president's going to primary you?

00:50:57.000 Like, everybody's moaning and upset that he's not spending as much time fighting.

00:51:01.000 Okay, it's Donald Trump.

00:51:03.000 Like, it.

00:51:05.000 Are we surprised?

00:51:06.000 You know?

00:51:06.000 Well, and to circle back on, to finish Andrew's point of the not black pilling, while we were sitting here, I looked up black pill in our chat.

00:51:13.000 Charlie, no black pilling.

00:51:15.000 Stop black pilling. 0.99

00:51:16.000 We don't black pill. 0.99

00:51:17.000 He would walk through the office like, guys, no more black pilling today. 0.98

00:51:20.000 No black pilling.

00:51:21.000 Look at it.

00:51:23.000 Keep that in mind, everyone.

00:51:24.000 That's amazing.

00:51:25.000 I really want to get to this next question, though, because I think it's a very rich one.

00:51:28.000 I think we have Mick next.

00:51:31.000 Unmute yourself.

00:51:33.000 Yes, sir.

00:51:34.000 Howdy, Mick.

00:51:34.000 Really quick.

00:51:37.000 I'd like to pay my respects to Kyle Bush, one of the greatest NASCAR drivers to ever do it, greatest of this millennium.

00:51:42.000 So sad.

00:51:43.000 Absolutely.

00:51:44.000 Over 200 wins.

00:51:46.000 A real culture icon.

00:51:48.000 I was and on the culture.

00:51:50.000 Um, oh, sorry, go ahead.

00:51:51.000 Oh, I was just gonna say, I didn't, I'm not a big NASCAR watcher, but even I knew who Kyle Bush was.

00:51:56.000 And what I loved about him, because I knew this fact, was he was a NASCAR driver, he could win the national championship, but he raced in the two lower levels, even the truck racing, which is like level three, because he just loved racing so much.

00:52:06.000 The guy wanted to go race, win as many as he could.

00:52:10.000 A lot of people have noticed his last race win, he's talking and almost in tears, like, you never know when your last one will be.

00:52:16.000 Let's play this, and I really admire that.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, SOT five.

00:52:21.000 Kyle Bush, your 69th victory in this series, your fifth right here.

00:52:26.000 Why do these moments never get old, Kyle?

00:52:29.000 Because you never know when the last one is, you know?

00:52:31.000 So, really touching.

00:52:35.000 And it looks like, from what reports have suggested, he was suffering potentially from a form of pneumonia and he just kind of battled through it and he didn't go into the hospital soon enough.

00:52:47.000 Yeah, he was found non responsive.

00:52:49.000 Like, you just think it's a bad cold and suddenly you.

00:52:52.000 I've seen people describe it suddenly like you're breathing through a coffee straw.

00:52:55.000 Yeah.

00:52:56.000 That was so sad.

00:52:57.000 That is sad.

00:52:57.000 So sad.

00:52:59.000 But yeah, please, with your question, Mick, sorry.

00:53:02.000 Yeah.

00:53:03.000 I mean, you know, with Kyle Bush, he was just a cultural icon to many Americans.

00:53:08.000 And with the culture, I think conservatives until very, very recently struggled to get into that main national spotlight.

00:53:16.000 And I think the first bit we saw that happening was with Matt Walsh's documentaries back in 2022 and 23.

00:53:24.000 And so I just asked, like, why do you think?

00:53:27.000 For that period of time, and even still, a lot of conservatives today, why do you think we struggle with that getting into that main spotlight when it's not necessarily being political?

00:53:39.000 I mean, I think to be honest, we all know a big player in that was Charlie, like making conservatism cool again.

00:53:46.000 I remember we would always joke with him.

00:53:48.000 The kids started to tell him he had Riz and he didn't know what that meant, and they all thought he was with his cough drops that it was like nicotine pouches, and they all thought he was.

00:54:00.000 Cool because he was so close to them and could speak their language.

00:54:05.000 As an advocate of truth, you know that women shouldn't have to share locker rooms with men.

00:54:11.000 Women shouldn't have to compete against male athletes and they shouldn't be punished for speaking the truth.

00:54:16.000 But across America, that's exactly what's happening.

00:54:18.000 Men are being allowed to compete in women's sports, robbing girls of scholarships, medals, titles, and safety.

00:54:24.000 Now, the U.S. Supreme Court has heard two cases West Virginia v. BPJ and Little v. Hecox.

00:54:32.000 That could decide the future of women's sports nationwide.

00:54:35.000 This could be a watershed moment in the fight to protect biological reality and fairness.

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00:55:20.000 We still have Mick.

00:55:22.000 Mick, I mean, Mick, because he's wondering, yeah.

00:55:25.000 Yeah, Mick, to let you know, we were talking about it in the break, and we were discussing how I think you're right conservatives used to struggle to be in the realm of pop culture.

00:55:35.000 And I think also a lot of it was just like coming from an era of like looking down on it's all bad, it's all because it was very dark for a long time, and there were a lot of things to point out that are wrong.

00:55:46.000 But I think one, when good things happen in pop culture, we all need to take a look and like praise those things and say, hey, this is a great thing.

00:55:54.000 Same when Taylor Swift got engaged.

00:55:56.000 Charlie said, this is a great thing.

00:55:58.000 We need to celebrate this.

00:55:59.000 We don't need to be naysayers about everything.

00:56:01.000 But then we were talking about how relevant podcasters have become now.

00:56:05.000 Like SNL doing, they have on their weekend update, they have a Tucker Carlson impersonator now.

00:56:09.000 And it's just everything has become mainstream to just be a podcaster.

00:56:15.000 Like it's a shtick now.

00:56:16.000 So I think it has become.

00:56:18.000 Netflix has a whole podcast section on it.

00:56:21.000 Yes.

00:56:21.000 Yeah.

00:56:25.000 With Jake Shane.

00:56:26.000 And it's like, just podcasting has become so.

00:56:29.000 We've got a lot.

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 It's become so overly saturated, I think.

00:56:33.000 And people point that out a lot where it's not.

00:56:35.000 I don't know that it's just cool now.

00:56:37.000 It's more just like a normal thing.

00:56:39.000 I don't know how much more invested we can get in pop culture because podcasters are the majority.

00:56:44.000 But that's only one subset because I think a big part of pop culture, a lot of it, we're talking about movies, we're talking about television.

00:56:51.000 We're talking about books, music, that music that a lot of that is, let's be frank, it still very much comes off as a left wing monoculture.

00:57:01.000 And that includes stuff that, let's be frank, objectively is pretty good.

00:57:05.000 Like, when if you look at the absolute best movies of the year that even conservatives like to watch, often they're by pretty liberal individuals.

00:57:14.000 And conservatives have wanted to break into that many times.

00:57:18.000 I don't know.

00:57:19.000 I think I've been around the block three or four times on.

00:57:22.000 Oh, conservatives, we're going to make movies that aren't overtly conservative.

00:57:25.000 They're just, but they're made by conservatives and they're just as good as the stuff left wingers make.

00:57:29.000 And it's been mixed results a lot of the time.

00:57:33.000 And I do wonder why we've struggled to do that.

00:57:37.000 And because we have talented people, we have smart people.

00:57:39.000 And there's been more than one case even where a talented conservative writer or film producer or something has moved in that direction.

00:57:47.000 And then suddenly the stuff they make goes down in quality and it's very frustrating.

00:57:51.000 Here's my issue.

00:57:51.000 And I spent a lot of time in Hollywood.

00:57:53.000 I would say that when you try and force feed ideology into film or TV, it gets worse.

00:57:59.000 This happens with the libs too.

00:58:01.000 This is why they can't make movies nearly as well as they did in the 80s and 90s, right?

00:58:05.000 Because they're trying to jam their ideology into what should just be good stories, right?

00:58:10.000 And so I would just caution anybody who's doing it.

00:58:13.000 Now, if you're doing what Hillsdale's doing, you're doing a documentary about the revolution, that's great.

00:58:18.000 That's the perfect context and platform to do that from.

00:58:21.000 But just tell good stories.

00:58:23.000 I keep mentioning this.

00:58:24.000 I'm watching a show called Widow's Bay right now.

00:58:27.000 It's not liberal or, I know it's a weird name.

00:58:30.000 It's a horror comedy.

00:58:33.000 Horror comedy?

00:58:33.000 Yeah, it's just, listen, it's actually pretty scary.

00:58:36.000 I wouldn't recommend it for under a certain age, but like, it's just good.

00:58:40.000 It's just good.

00:58:42.000 And I think that's great.

00:58:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:44.000 I mean, but you just make good content, tell good stories.

00:58:48.000 If you are a conservative or a traditional American or you're Christian, your stuff is going to weave in to the way they talk, the way they make decisions, the way your character arcs play out.

00:58:59.000 So, I just say stop putting the pressure on you to make overtly conservative stuff.

00:59:03.000 Make good stories.

00:59:05.000 And really, at the end of the day, like our culture is going to reflect the values of its people.

00:59:10.000 So, we need to be doing a better job evangelizing people, pushing revival, telling people to repent for the kingdom of God is near, going to church, having a family, raising good kids.

00:59:21.000 Those things, the more we do that as a culture, through the podcasting realm, through the pulpit, through news, through whatever platform we have, I think culture is going to get healthier.

00:59:31.000 Therefore, our art will also start reflecting a healthier culture.

00:59:34.000 Wait, I think to round out your question, the answer why we struggle is because I think conservatives have stayed the same for a long time and the values of culture have gone the opposite way.

00:59:42.000 Direction.

00:59:43.000 We should put some blame on liberals too, which is I think there's a lot of avenues to get in at the entry level of a lot of cultural output, and the left took over those, made them very.

00:59:56.000 And they get kept them.

00:59:57.000 That was the whole. 0.64

00:59:58.000 It was like a compact article that we covered about white men just kind of getting purged out of everything. 0.78

01:00:04.000 And you do need to get in at the entry level to really build up skills in a lot of cultural production.

01:00:10.000 And so, for example, we don't get good conservative novels a lot of the time anymore because we don't get any good novels from. 0.68

01:00:17.000 White dudes anymore.

01:00:17.000 But then, a question I think a lot of people have is okay, do we just, if liberals have taken over, do we back away and make our own stuff or do we still try and.

01:00:27.000 In general, I'm a infiltrate the institutions guy.

01:00:30.000 I'm not a retreat guy.

01:00:31.000 And I think there are conservatives completely on both sides of that argument, which is good because we do need people that are making wholesome alternative content, alternative products for when there are things like the target boycotts.

01:00:41.000 Yes.

01:00:42.000 We might have to open a book publishing and TV production house in Bulgaria or something where we can evade all DEI controls.

01:00:48.000 I think Hollywood is specifically really.

01:00:50.000 I mean, Daily Wire is an example that it runs into, you know, problems trying to create conservative inspired content.

01:00:57.000 It's a big task.

01:00:59.000 It's tough.

01:00:59.000 It takes a lot of money, a lot of distribution.

01:01:02.000 So when it comes to Hollywood in the arts, I think we have to infiltrate the existing institutions, in my opinion.

01:01:08.000 Ian is next.

01:01:09.000 Ian, please unmute yourself.

01:01:11.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:01:13.000 Hey, good morning, guys.

01:01:14.000 How are you?

01:01:14.000 Good morning.

01:01:15.000 What's your question?

01:01:16.000 Hey, I was, I've been, I had the opportunity later this year to go to Africa to preach, and I was, you know, I don't have no fear and doubt, but my faith in God is greater than that.

01:01:29.000 So I was curious about times in your life that God's called you to do something and how did you show courage?

01:01:35.000 And also, anecdotally, I'm sure you guys have stories about Charlie many times with that.

01:01:41.000 So any of that would be appreciated.

01:01:44.000 Mikey, you want to start?

01:01:44.000 Daisy, you want to start?

01:01:45.000 I've got one.

01:01:46.000 Let's hear from Mikey.

01:01:47.000 Yeah.

01:01:48.000 Out of curiosity, where in Africa were you?

01:01:51.000 Uganda.

01:01:52.000 Oh, nice.

01:01:53.000 I have some family who I think do pre.

01:01:56.000 Preaching missionary type stuff in Uganda, actually.

01:01:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:58.000 There's a lot of Christians in Uganda and Kenya area.

01:02:01.000 It's been evangelized. 1.00

01:02:02.000 I mean, you still get it, it's still dangerous. 1.00

01:02:04.000 Don't get me wrong, but it's right on that line between actually Islam and Christianity and traditional beliefs. 1.00

01:02:10.000 And so it's a place to be if you're going to preach there.

01:02:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:13.000 It's where Zoram Mamdani's from.

01:02:15.000 I've been to Uganda.

01:02:16.000 It was my first missions trip, too.

01:02:18.000 Great place.

01:02:20.000 Yeah, I think for me, is if the Lord is genuinely calling you to something and you take that leap, Like, there is no looking back.

01:02:29.000 Like, once you make the decision, you're all in.

01:02:31.000 And you kind of have to constantly read your Bible, continue to pray, rely on the Lord, because the moment you stop doing that is the moment you start to detach yourself from your faith.

01:02:45.000 And the moment you detach yourself from faith, you stop having faith in the mission that God put you on.

01:02:49.000 Rely on your own flesh.

01:02:50.000 You rely on your own flesh.

01:02:52.000 You start questioning why you're somewhere.

01:02:53.000 You start questioning, was this even the right decision?

01:02:56.000 So, once you make the decision, being steadfast, honoring the Lord, Continuing to just talk with him, pray, rely on the Holy Spirit.

01:03:06.000 I mean, I talk about this all the time.

01:03:08.000 We say that the Lord, you know, is the pinnacle of our lives and that we rely on the Holy Spirit and all these things.

01:03:14.000 But how often do you guys walk into meetings?

01:03:16.000 How often do you guys walk into challenging situations and just say, like, Holy Spirit, speak to me?

01:03:21.000 Like, Lord, please come and, like, offer your guidance and your wisdom.

01:03:25.000 Like, James 1 5, for those of you who lack wisdom, ask of God who gives to all liberally and without reproach.

01:03:32.000 Like, just ask.

01:03:34.000 Like, how many times do we actually do that?

01:03:35.000 And how hard is it?

01:03:36.000 To literally walk into a meeting and be like, Holy Spirit, come invade this place and let this be your meeting.

01:03:42.000 Well, that reminds me of my instance.

01:03:44.000 Sorry, but I got it.

01:03:45.000 Well, I was thinking he asked about Charlie, and I'd say what stood out with me about Charlie is certainly by the time I met him, which was late 2022, I feel, at least as I saw it, he was actually at this perfect state of almost maybe elevated serenity.

01:04:01.000 I think Charlie was very good about, even in difficult times, he was a big believer.

01:04:08.000 You create your own mental state and it's all on God.

01:04:11.000 You didn't see him as much where he's like, Oh, I'm struggling, and you know, let's do a prayer to have God, you know, to remember what's centering us.

01:04:20.000 It was more like Charlie, it's like it shone from him, it glowed all of the time.

01:04:25.000 The faith I definitely saw him struggle at times.

01:04:28.000 Maybe you saw it more than I did.

01:04:29.000 You were with him every day.

01:04:30.000 To Mikey's point, though, like Charlie did have that constant connection with God, like constantly reflecting back on his disciplines, on his scriptures, on his word to know that, like, no matter what was happening in his life, he did have that constant stream of.

01:04:45.000 Of connection to the Lord, and that's what grounded him.

01:04:46.000 And I also, you asked about courage too.

01:04:48.000 I think back all the time to Charlie's podcast on the Ice Coffee Hour when they didn't ask him, when they asked him what he wanted to be known for, he didn't just say his faith.

01:04:57.000 He said courage for his faith.

01:04:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:59.000 Like the willingness to tell other people about it and put it all on the line and say, this is the thing that I will bet my entire life on.

01:05:06.000 And it's more than just, oh, I want to be known for having a strong faith.

01:05:09.000 It's for being willing to do anything for that faith.

01:05:12.000 And I would, he could pervade it, everything he did.

01:05:14.000 I would just say, like Mikey, I remember a lot of instances where Charlie.

01:05:19.000 Was struggling or was afraid, even especially in the early years.

01:05:25.000 And he kept overcoming them and fighting through.

01:05:28.000 And each time he would fight through a challenge, backs against the wall, all of a sudden it was like he got stronger.

01:05:34.000 The next time he could tackle more.

01:05:36.000 And so remember, it's a process, it's not a straight line.

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01:06:45.000 All right, I just want to say one final thing about the final question.

01:06:51.000 We have a few more we got to get to before the hour is up.

01:06:55.000 You asked what our moments were, and really, like, I think we would all look around the room if.

01:06:59.000 If I pose this question to them, but like when Charlie was killed, that was a moment where we all had to have courage and dig deep because it was awful and we didn't know what was going to come next.

01:07:11.000 And I've told this story, I think I told it on Alex Clark's podcast, but like I literally had to like fall on the floor and repent because I just drafted behind Charlie.

01:07:21.000 Charlie took all the slings and arrows, he did all the hard work, and we got to kind of like draft behind him and didn't have to host a show every day, didn't have to speak to students, didn't have to go speak at events.

01:07:30.000 Charlie did all that stuff.

01:07:31.000 I just got to hang out with my family.

01:07:32.000 It was awesome.

01:07:32.000 And that's, you know, and so I had to sort of repent and say, God, you know, whatever you have for me in this season, I guess I just have to say yes.

01:07:42.000 And I love the way Mikey said it that you just have to kind of decide to go all in and just say yes.

01:07:46.000 And so that was, you know, ultimately we watched Charlie go through that time and time again.

01:07:51.000 And he got, like I said, he got stronger as he did it.

01:07:53.000 And it was really powerful to watch.

01:07:55.000 Next question.

01:07:57.000 We have, what do we have?

01:07:58.000 Anthony.

01:07:59.000 Anthony.

01:08:01.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:08:03.000 Thank you.

01:08:04.000 So, first thing is, Danny said Andrew would have to wear a hat or a certain shirt today from a bet made one to two weeks ago.

01:08:12.000 And Danny's supposed to be wearing the same thing, too, because something from a bet he made with me the following week after, Andrew lost.

01:08:18.000 Wait, what did I lose?

01:08:19.000 Sounds like, is the Dodgers keep losing?

01:08:22.000 No, they're in first place.

01:08:24.000 No, you lost to my Braves.

01:08:26.000 Oh, did I?

01:08:27.000 I don't think I bet anything on that.

01:08:29.000 Anthony, we're going to have to go back and review the tape.

01:08:32.000 And if I'm wrong, I will do it next week.

01:08:34.000 I will do it next week.

01:08:35.000 Well, Danny's got to join you because he said his Cubs were going to beat my Braves a couple days after, and that didn't happen either.

01:08:39.000 Wait, what are the Braves at right now?

01:08:41.000 I don't make bets about the Twins.

01:08:43.000 I'm at 36 and 14.

01:08:45.000 Dang, you guys are crushing.

01:08:47.000 No, 36 and 16.

01:08:50.000 I don't make bets about the Twins winning games.

01:08:52.000 I feel like you're speaking it differently.

01:08:53.000 35 and 16.

01:08:54.000 You guys have a winning percentage of 686.

01:08:57.000 But hey, the Dodgers are 31 and 19, the 620 winning percentage, and we just took two out of three against the Padres, who are Shohei can't hit anymore, though.

01:09:06.000 It's weird.

01:09:07.000 What?

01:09:07.000 Shohei's not good at hitting anymore.

01:09:08.000 He hit a home run and didn't give up any.

01:09:11.000 He has a.

01:09:11.000 He's pitching rate.

01:09:12.000 He's pitching rate.

01:09:14.000 He might get Cy Young this year.

01:09:16.000 So, anyways.

01:09:17.000 All right, Anthony, what's your question?

01:09:20.000 So, my question is this.

01:09:22.000 So, we're seeing a lot of talk online regarding ticks, just a higher increase in the United States, actually in North America.

01:09:31.000 And we're hearing about the Lone Star Red tick, the Deer ticks.

01:09:37.000 And how, like, 450,000 Americans have gotten bitten by Lonesar red ticks, which were genetically engineered from what people are saying by a former computer guy from Microsoft, and that they will infect you where you can't eat red meat and possibly dairy for the rest of your life.

01:09:55.000 So the question is, why is nobody talking about this or looking into this?

01:09:59.000 Because isn't that kind of.

01:10:02.000 Shouldn't we not be genetically creating ticks to do that?

01:10:05.000 Blake.

01:10:06.000 So this is interesting.

01:10:07.000 You're right.

01:10:07.000 It is getting more attention, and it's getting more attention because we haven't talked about it on the show.

01:10:11.000 There's.

01:10:11.000 A paper that was published by two guys at Western Michigan University's School of Medicine, two guys, Parker Crutchfield and Blake Harrith.

01:10:21.000 And they wrote this.

01:10:22.000 It was published in October of last year.

01:10:24.000 And it was titled Beneficial Blood Sucking.

01:10:27.000 And it was some medical ethics paper that basically said, suggested the idea that intentionally spreading that disease is called alpha gal syndrome.

01:10:36.000 And it is an allergy you can acquire from a bite of that Lone Star tick, where it basically gives you an allergic reaction to red meat.

01:10:46.000 And I think dairy products as well.

01:10:47.000 Basically, it's a lot of animal products you suddenly have an allergy to.

01:10:51.000 And they suggest, well, if animal suffering is bad, then, and we can reduce animal suffering by making everyone allergic to eating animals.

01:11:00.000 We have the exact line was if this practice can be applied to ticks carrying AGS, promoting the proliferation of tick borne Alpha Gao syndrome is morally obligatory.

01:11:10.000 Now, this does not prove anyone is intentionally spreading it, but if there are lib college professors writing papers about how it is morally obligatory to spread meat allergies, then what are you going to get out there?

01:11:23.000 Could be someone who does that.

01:11:24.000 We do have genetic research that is done on ticks, and the threshold to do genetic research on things is going down all of the time.

01:11:33.000 This has been brought up with AI, it's brought up with a lot of other technologies.

01:11:38.000 We should be worried about this.

01:11:40.000 And also, it's a good reminder we should be investing in the breakdown of all of our checks on spreading pathogens.

01:11:51.000 A lot of diseases are spreading that.

01:11:52.000 Have we learned nothing from COVID?

01:11:53.000 Yeah.

01:11:54.000 We've had diseases that are spreading up.

01:11:55.000 Like, I think foot and mouth diseases made a comeback among animals.

01:11:58.000 All I know is I got norovirus this year.

01:12:00.000 Anyway, we should have a big government push to fund the extermination of this tick.

01:12:07.000 We should make this tick go extinct.

01:12:09.000 And if you understand.

01:12:10.000 Anthony, I got to get to our last question.

01:12:12.000 I'm so sorry, my friend.

01:12:13.000 No, you're fine.

01:12:14.000 Okay, sorry.

01:12:15.000 Thank you for the question.

01:12:16.000 We got to get to Rob.

01:12:17.000 Rob, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:12:21.000 Hey, guys.

01:12:22.000 Real quick, I appreciate you letting me on.

01:12:23.000 So, I think Spencer Pratt's a really great example of kind of how.

01:12:27.000 Pop culture and politics are really starting to blur the lines.

01:12:29.000 I know, like, President Trump did things.

01:12:31.000 Heck, even my senator, Rick Scott, is putting out AI videos right now, which is kind of crazy.

01:12:36.000 But, anyways, my question is so, like, where's that balance between needing to stick out with, like, this type of political messaging, which is obviously breaking through, versus, like, actually talking about legitimate issues and policy change?

01:12:50.000 Like, I couldn't tell you what Spencer Pratt's background is outside.

01:12:53.000 He's a reality starter.

01:12:54.000 I've already graduated from him.

01:12:55.000 I don't know what policies.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, I mean, I.

01:13:02.000 I don't know what he stands for or what he can do or what his background is.

01:13:05.000 He stands for competent local governance.

01:13:08.000 That's what he stands for.

01:13:09.000 Being like common sense, bringing back common sense to crime, filth, homelessness, city services, budget.

01:13:17.000 That's essentially what his campaign is all about.

01:13:19.000 And I would just say, where's the line?

01:13:22.000 It's whatever works, whatever the population is responding to, you got to lean into.

01:13:27.000 And I said publicly that I thought he was the best campaigner of his generation.

01:13:33.000 And I stand by that.

01:13:34.000 And then Erica actually tweeted about this yesterday.

01:13:37.000 So I want to read the tweet.

01:13:38.000 She says, regardless of the outcome of Spencer Pratt's race, what he's doing is authentically American.

01:13:44.000 See, a problem becomes a part of the solution.

01:13:46.000 His campaign ads are unconventional, but that's the point.

01:13:49.000 It's refreshing.

01:13:49.000 Instead of speaking like a career politician, he's speaking as an American who sees and deeply understands how fragile the simple things in life are when leadership fails.

01:13:58.000 This is what this country is all about citizens willing to step into the political arena unafraid and challenging a failing system.

01:14:05.000 Much like one that has destroyed Los Angeles.

01:14:08.000 I hope moments like this inspire more Americans to throw their names into the mix, run for office, get involved, and stand up for what makes this country exceptional.

01:14:15.000 Blake, final word to you. 0.63

01:14:17.000 What is a Chud and how is Spencer Pratt a Chud? 0.99

01:14:19.000 Oh, well, a Chud is basically a person the left doesn't like because they are too cool and they are not with it on all of their issues. 1.00

01:14:29.000 And you just do things. 1.00

01:14:30.000 You just do things.

01:14:30.000 You just do things and you tell the left no and you say, I'm not going to get bossed around by, that's a.

01:14:35.000 That's offensive.

01:14:36.000 You're not allowed to do that.

01:14:38.000 If you roll your eyes at that and say, ah, that's cool. 1.00

01:14:40.000 I'm going to do it anyway, you're a chud. 1.00

01:14:42.000 You're a chud. 1.00

01:14:42.000 Wait, really quickly. 1.00

01:14:43.000 We have a couple seconds left.

01:14:44.000 I want to hear from the other resident Californian.

01:14:46.000 What do you think?

01:14:47.000 Oh, I think we should all go to California and vote illegally because they're not going to check our ID.

01:14:51.000 Yay! 0.84

01:14:52.000 Disavow!

01:14:54.000 Disavow, mostly.

01:14:56.000 Thank you for that question, Rob.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 22, 2026

The Spencer Pratt Homeless Plan + AMA 267

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