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00:02:01.000Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show with the National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign, Hogan Gidley, who has been fighting the fake news media for quite some time and doing a great job of it.
00:02:10.000Hogan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:34.000And I have been fighting the fake news media now for the better part of 20 years in politics.
00:02:39.000And I've never seen anything like this campaign apparatus in my entire life.
00:02:44.000The digital reach of the Trump campaign is unmatched.
00:02:49.000It is the envy of the political universe.
00:02:53.000The fundraising apparatus, also historic in nature.
00:02:57.000And what's so great about that is it kind of dovetails nicely with all the historic accomplishments in record-setting time that Donald Trump has been able to deliver on for the American people.
00:03:08.000I mean, you know, you run on promises when you're running a campaign.
00:03:12.000He can now run on the promises that are kept because he did so many of the things, if not all, that he made promises on on the campaign trail.
00:03:21.000So now that he's been in office and he has a record to run on, I do find it very interesting that Donald Trump in just three short years is running on a staunch, strict, tough record of protecting the American people at every turn, rebuilding our military and other things.
00:03:38.000And Joe Biden has been in office for half of a century, and he's still talking about all the things that are wrong with this country.
00:03:44.000So what's he been doing for the last five decades is what I want to know.
00:03:47.000But here at the campaign, I think things are going really well.
00:03:49.000We're buckling up for the next 100 days so we can finish with a flurry and bring this thing home for another four years.
00:03:57.000And the media has not at all portrayed how the Trump campaign has built out a true 21st century modern apparatus.
00:04:05.000I think my favorite part of the Chris Wallace interview was the thing that I think the president and your campaign has talked about more, which is, and the American people won't tolerate a candidate that will not engage in the public sphere.
00:04:18.000And Biden has been able to hide under the China virus restrictions.
00:04:22.000When the president said, I can do this interview, and Joe Biden can't, that's a very winning message that you have a candidate that can actually communicate and is actually able to interface, whereas the other side is unwilling to do so.
00:04:34.000Hogan, we get thousands and thousands of emails here on the Charlie Kirk show, and a lot of them are asking me, what is the message for 2020?
00:04:53.000First of all, let me just point out what you just said.
00:04:55.000I think the part of the interview that you're right.
00:05:00.000The president did a good job pointing out the fact that he could do the interview for an hour, but also, let's be clear, he did it outside in 100-degree heat.
00:05:11.000There is no way that Joe Biden could last an hour with Chris Wallace, but he definitely couldn't do it outside.
00:05:22.000I mean, you and I both know how we think that would kind of end up for Joe Biden.
00:05:43.000But look, I think as we move closer to the election day itself and we focus in on tighter messaging around this campaign, we do want to focus on rebuilding, restoring, and renewing what this country was under this president before it was attacked by a virus that came from China.
00:06:04.000You know, when this president acted boldly, decisively to shut down travel from China and from Europe, he was mocked.
00:06:16.000And now Joe Biden's got to come out and say, yeah, no, it probably saved some lives.
00:06:20.000And it's interesting because President Trump was right again.
00:06:23.000And when the media is telling you and when the experts are, or they're reporting, I guess the media is reporting on what the experts are saying, which is 2.2 million people were going to die in this country, every single death is tragic.
00:06:35.000But this president's action saved millions of lives.
00:06:39.000I mean, that's just undeniable at this point.
00:06:41.000And so thankfully, we have a president who isn't concerned by placating to the mainstream media or the D.C. elites, the D.C. establishments.
00:06:50.000He wants to protect the American people.
00:06:52.000And because he ran an election really that had no special interest group support at all, he's not beholden to anybody except for the American voter, except for the American family.
00:07:30.000The president says they're fake polls, and he knows because they are fake polls.
00:07:33.000It's the same pollsters, the same methodology, the same myopic view of how these things are conducted from 2016.
00:07:41.000The same people who got it wrong then are getting it wrong now.
00:07:44.000And you see that because in exit polling, for example, if we can get a little wonky for a second, exit polling in 2016 showed 36% of those sampled were Democrats.
00:07:54.000Well, in this latest Fox poll, they sampled 46% Democrats.
00:08:01.000So, of course, you're going to get that.
00:08:02.000And also, national polls are typically junk because they take in a lot of voters from New York and California because those are the numbers on the rolls, meaning it's obviously going to be skewed left.
00:08:11.000In fact, most national polls have 10% of respondents from California.
00:08:15.000That's obviously going to skew the numbers as well.
00:08:19.000But when you look at some of the, I know you've talked about this, Charlie, but when you look at some of the registration that's going on out there, it's overwhelmingly Republican over Democrat.
00:08:27.000People are excited and enthusiastic about this president.
00:08:30.000And you see, when he has an unannounced teletown hall, five of them this past weekend, we had over 4.5 million views as of Monday on those things.
00:08:38.000He didn't even announce it and get 4.5 million views.
00:08:41.000Donald Trump supporters would literally walk across broken glass to vote for him.
00:08:46.000You can't get a Joe Biden supporter to click on a link to watch him on the internet.
00:08:51.000And look, I understand because every time he pops out of that hidey hole, he's talking about kids rubbing his leg hair and not knowing the date of the year of 9-11.
00:09:01.000I mean, he makes a lot of mistakes, but it's worse than just the gaffing and the messing up.
00:09:07.000They're so destructive and so reminiscent of socialism because he's an empty vessel now that's been filled by Bernie Sanders and AOC and Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and Elizabeth Warren.
00:09:17.000And so it's a dangerous place that this former vice president, this shell of a man, is trying to take us.
00:09:24.000And, you know, the president's going to stand up to it and stand up for America.
00:09:29.000And there is very little to no enthusiasm for Joe Biden.
00:09:32.000You saw this in the BLM Inc. arson across the country where none of them had Joe Biden for president signs.
00:09:39.000None of them had any sort of enthusiasm.
00:09:41.000And you look at just when Joe Biden tries to do a Facebook Live, most of the comments are negative and there's very little response.
00:09:49.000My question, though, Hogan, is do you think that people might not come and support Biden?
00:09:55.000But do you think will they come to vote against Trump if they try to turn this into a referendum just strictly and solely on the president?
00:10:02.000Do you think that they might be able to gin up support?
00:10:05.000Or do you think that people have to actually go vote for something?
00:10:08.000Well, I do think a couple of little layers there.
00:10:11.000I do think the media is trying to make this a referendum on Trump, no doubt, because they definitely don't want to talk about Joe Biden's horrific record.
00:10:21.000But as far as the voting is concerned, typically, and polls will tell you this, good polls actually, will tell you that people don't go out to vote against something.
00:10:31.000That doesn't motivate people to get off the couch.
00:10:34.000It motivates people to go out and vote for something.
00:10:37.000And our supporters, many of those who were on the left politically, but have been getting kicked in the teeth because they were middle America and the manufacturing sector for decades, and Donald Trump came in and helped them, broke right through that blue wall.
00:10:52.000Many of those supporters are 100% going to support this president.
00:10:58.000So I just feel like as we look and move into the last hundred days here, the layered question you asked is absolutely a poignant one.
00:11:16.000Now, with this whole Democrat wave of this universal mail-in voting, which is just absolutely fraught with danger and allows cheating top to bottom, that's insane.
00:11:29.000So that's a problem we're having to watch out for and fight against.
00:11:33.000But I think the president's going to be in good shape because people want to go out and vote for a future that they want, for a future that is going to be good for their children and for their livelihoods and for their families.
00:11:49.000And so I think that's what President Trump gives them.
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00:12:32.000Well, one of the things I think the Democrats are going to try to do going into the fall is they're going to try to find a reason to not have the president debate Joe Biden, or they might have him do him over some sort of silly Skype call.
00:12:43.000And I've been a huge, huge opponent to all these lockdowns.
00:12:46.000I think they're doing such damage and destruction to our country.
00:12:49.000I think we need to open up America immediately and instantaneously.
00:12:52.000And I think part of the reason is that they're going to try to not have a presidential campaign and hide behind the lockdowns.
00:12:58.000And that will hurt Trump in a lot of different ways.
00:13:01.000How are you guys trying to position to make sure Joe Biden debates?
00:13:04.000Because you can already start to see people put out trial balloons.
00:13:07.000I think it was Thomas Friedman at the New York Times who said, yeah, Joe Biden shouldn't debate because of the tax returns or something nonsense.
00:13:14.000And you can start to see, and Hogan, you know the media really well.
00:13:16.000They'll float it out by some intelligentsia member like Thomas Friedman, who's a very loyal apparatchik of the Democrat apparatus, if you will.
00:13:25.000And then they will start to repeat it on MSNBC.
00:13:27.000Next thing you know, it'll be in the Zeitgeist.
00:13:44.000We want to see these two men stand side by side.
00:13:46.000But look, I can already see, too, the narrative of the media is just trying to downplay it, you know, downplay and set expectations really low for Joe Biden so that he comes out and if he says three sentences, they're going to say, wow, he really cleaned President Trump's clock.
00:14:01.000But the fact is, putting them on a debate stage is going to be very significant for a lot of reasons.
00:14:05.000You get to see side by side the comparison.
00:14:08.000And you know, Charlie, elections are about choices.
00:14:12.000And I love this kind of line of debate here.
00:14:34.000Donald Trump, 7 million jobs, created 500,000 manufacturing, stock market record highs, cut taxes, cut regulations, business is coming back.
00:14:42.000The difference side by side, the choice is so clear.
00:14:46.000And you don't have to guess what it would look like in our city streets if Joe Biden were elected.
00:14:50.000The lawlessness, the looting, the rioting, the assaults on innocent Americans, burning churches.
00:14:55.000He didn't say anything except defund the police.
00:14:58.000So when you put those things in a real-time comparison, the American people are going to see someone in Donald Trump who has real successes to show that have improved their lives greatly, regardless of color, race, religion, or creed.
00:15:11.000And Joe Biden, who for 50 years has been in office, paid by the taxpayer, and is still complaining today about the same things he was complaining about 50 years ago when he was palling around with white supremacists.
00:15:25.000I mean, that's going to be a big difference.
00:15:27.000I think that's something we can point to.
00:15:29.000Well, and Joe Biden is a bitter, he's a bitter racist, and we need to call him a racist.
00:15:34.000The left doesn't know how to deal with things when you call them a racist.
00:15:36.000All of a sudden, they say, oh, you're not allowed to say that.
00:15:38.000Like, no, you're racist because you call us that every single day.
00:15:40.000Joe Biden was best friends with segregationists.
00:15:43.000Joe Biden wanted segregated by bus and was even called out by his now best friend, Senator Kamala Harris, when she said that little girl was me about a year ago.
00:15:52.000Joe Biden said you can't walk into a 7-Eleven without a slight Indian accent.
00:15:56.000Joe Biden called black people super predators in the 1990s.
00:15:59.000Joe Biden authored the Clinton crime bill.
00:16:01.000Joe Biden said he'd never seen a good-looking, smooth-talking black man until Barack Obama.
00:16:06.000Joe Biden is a bitter racist, and we need to say that.
00:16:08.000And we need to say it clearly and enthusiastically, not enthusiastically, but very clearly and loudly.
00:16:13.000And like all things, and the president's the best at this, and I believe he will do this even more, once we have a campaign.
00:16:19.000And we have to keep reminding ourselves that we don't really have a campaign right now.
00:16:22.000And I mean that in the sense where Joe Biden's not campaigning.
00:16:25.000In order for a campaign to exist, you need someone to be able to have back and forth and rallies and all that.
00:16:30.000And I guess part of it's going to be when Joe Biden picks a vice president.
00:16:34.000Today there was a story that came out and is in Politico about the RNC restricting convention attendance.
00:16:41.000Can you give us an update about the Republican National Convention and what you guys are planning for that?
00:16:47.000Yeah, it looks like the first few days are going to be resigned to just delegates, not alternates.
00:16:52.000Look, the president wants to have a convention.
00:16:54.000He wants to thank the great state of Florida, one of those toss-up states that actually helped catapult him to the actual presidency.
00:17:04.000He wants to deliver a message directly to the American people.
00:17:07.000He wants to get out there and show everyone he's excited and ready for a second term.
00:17:14.000And let's be honest, the supporters, the voters want to see him as well.
00:17:18.000And they want to get out there and cheer on the man who systematically changed their lives for the better.
00:17:24.000And so right now, we're working with the officials on the ground, the governor, the law enforcement, of course, the mayor as well.
00:17:32.000So we're trying to figure out exactly how this thing's going to look right now.
00:17:37.000But I can assure you this, we're going to do it in a safe way.
00:17:41.000And with temperature checks for every single person and hand sanitizer and masks for every single person.
00:17:48.000That's a heck of a lot more than the looters and the rioters did.
00:17:52.000In fact, I often joke that I almost wish the federal government hadn't given $1.6 billion to Project Warp Speed to try and find a vaccine.
00:18:36.000We have no evidence as of the recording of this that there was any surge in cases at all whatsoever with 3,400 young people in the room hearing from the president of the United States.
00:19:01.000And there was a slight increase about 10 days later, but part of that is just probably baked into tourist season.
00:19:06.000But it wasn't the surge that the people said that there would be.
00:19:09.000So I think that there is, I think there is more space to be able to do live events again.
00:19:13.000And I know you guys are tracking that very closely and make the best and most informed decision.
00:19:17.000And I think that this is the president's greatest political asset.
00:19:20.000I mean, it's something that historically we've never seen before, where a president can just show up without a rock band or a famous celebrity and just draw 30,000 people.
00:19:30.000I mean, we've never seen anything like it.
00:19:34.000He wants to take it away from the president.
00:19:37.000Of course, because the contrast is so stark.
00:19:39.000Again, it's about choices, but when you have one on one hand and one on the other, you're absolutely right.
00:19:44.000Joe Biden didn't want to see the president filling up these arenas, overflowing with capacity and overflow parking lots full with big screens and everything else.
00:19:53.000He didn't want to see that because he knows he can't pull that.
00:20:02.000So, you know, again, I'm anxious to see how this thing's going to turn out and how it's going to look.
00:20:07.000The media is covering for Joe Biden at every single turn, regardless of what he says.
00:20:12.000You point out articulately just a moment ago, the left always accuses the right of the very thing they themselves are guilty of actually doing.
00:20:59.000And the president, I mean, look, the president did a phenomenal job with the Chris Wallace interview.
00:21:03.000And I thought Chris Wallace made a fool of himself.
00:21:06.000The way he handled that was, I mean, I have never seen him be that tough on anyone.
00:21:10.000And he tried to, it was really a bizarre interview, to be honest.
00:21:13.000He was cutting back and forth with him, with James Comey, to prove that he was really tough.
00:21:17.000And the question he asked James Comey was like the lightest softball question ever.
00:21:22.000And then he goes with the president and is like, you're not telling the truth to the American people.
00:21:26.000And if the president, the fact that he actually endured the entire interview, I think really shows a contrast.
00:21:31.000And I think the more, every time the president sits down with one of these apparatchiks like Chris Wallace, he should say, Joe Biden can't do this.
00:21:39.000And I know from voters in my own personal circle, they get very silent, and they agree that the president is willing to talk to anyone at any time.
00:21:48.000And I think it's one of the president's greatest assets and one of his greatest selling points is that he is unafraid to have these kind of conversations.
00:21:55.000And that's why I think the president should do Joe Rogan's podcast.
00:21:58.000Could you imagine Joe Biden on Joe Rogan's podcast?
00:22:10.000The president would handle it really well because the president loves that sort of stuff.
00:22:13.000And I think that the more that we're able to portray to America that you have a very committed and obviously qualified person in a variety of ways as president and someone that you can actually trust to be able to rebuild the American economy.
00:22:28.000So in closing, Hogan, I know we only have a couple minutes left here.
00:22:33.000There are a lot of people that need a message of hope.
00:22:36.000Our podcast is getting record amounts of listens and downloads.
00:22:39.000And I get emails from people that say, Charlie, is it over?
00:22:46.000And I know, Hogan, it's hard to hear sometimes, but can you just give that message of how it's still very early in the campaign, how in 2016 we went through the very same similar stuff that they're doing now, and they're trying to develop again, acting as if we don't remember?
00:24:22.000A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for you.
00:24:24.000A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for America and its greatness.
00:24:30.000And that's something that I think no one can take away.
00:24:32.000And while the media are doing their level best to try and lie about this president and fulfill their own selfish socialist agendas, I think the American people are standing up and saying no more.
00:24:44.000And these autonomous zones are absolutely ludicrous.
00:24:50.000And you see what democratic governance not just has led to, but has allowed ever since.
00:24:56.000And so I just want your folks not to get down because Joe Biden doesn't just think America is inherently evil.
00:25:04.000He thinks it's the cause of the world's problems.
00:25:20.000We're going to get through it together again, and we're going to come out so much more unified and so much stronger on the backside because at its core, this country is a wonderful place to live.
00:25:40.000I think the more that people recognize who Joe Biden is and the forces behind him, this race will really begin to tip in the president's favor.
00:25:50.000One of my other favorite lines of the Chris Wallace interview was: boy, people have counted me out before, and that is not a good bet to make.
00:25:56.000And I completely and totally agree with that.
00:25:58.000So, Hogan, I know you got a busy schedule.