The Charlie Kirk Show - The Steal is in the Signatures with Tracy Beanz and Sergio Gor

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00:01:42.000 Joining us now is Tracy Beans, host of the Dark to Light podcast and editor of Uncover DC.

00:01:48.000 She's a fabulous investigative journalist and she's been following the Carrie Lake trial closely.

00:01:53.000 We're getting so many emails about it.

00:01:55.000 Tracy, welcome back to the program.

00:01:56.000 So Tracy, act as if I know nothing about the trial and I know very little.

00:02:00.000 I've covered it, but I've been busy on other stories.

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00:02:03.000 What's going on?

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00:02:06.000 So the Carrie Lake campaign went to the Arizona Supreme Court with their claims that the lower courts had erred in their decisions to dismiss certain counts and the challenge that she brought.

00:02:18.000 I'm going to assume we've got a base level of knowledge here.

00:02:21.000 Otherwise, we'll be here a lot longer than 15 minutes.

00:02:24.000 But the Supreme Court ruled that the lower courts had made a mistake when ruling that the claim that Carrie Lake brought forth that Maricopa County did not follow its own procedures for signature matching caused it to allow through, you know, however many unverified signatures that shouldn't have been passed through.

00:02:43.000 And the court ruled that that was a timely complaint that she made and remanded it back down to the trial court so that the trial court could then go through with the hearing on it.

00:02:52.000 Of course, when we got back to the trial court, shenanigans ensued and the scope of the charge, for lack of a better word, got really, really, really narrow.

00:03:02.000 And what the judge ultimately said was that Carrie Lake needed to prove that no signature matching or that there was any signature matching done during the 2020 2022 gubernatorial election.

00:03:17.000 So the judge said, you have to prove that they didn't do this at all.

00:03:20.000 They didn't do any signature verification.

00:03:23.000 Well, we know that that's nearly impossible, but I'm going to tell you during this trial, they got pretty darn close to doing that, in my opinion.

00:03:30.000 They were able to obtain log files from Maricopa County that showed the computer movements, the clicks and things like that that different signature verification levels were making at those workstations.

00:03:44.000 And they brought in an expert or two to talk about those things during the trial.

00:03:47.000 And what the expert told everybody was that there were hundreds of thousands of signatures that were verified in less than two and three seconds.

00:03:56.000 So somebody sitting at a level one desk would scroll through.

00:03:59.000 They have to make under the law, they have to make a comparison.

00:04:02.000 So they have to look at the signature on the envelope and compare that to a signature that's on the individual's voter record.

00:04:08.000 They get hours and hours of training on this, Charlie.

00:04:11.000 So before we even got into it, their witnesses came up and said, Yeah, we were trained for 40 hours on this, or we were trained for eight hours or whatever it was.

00:04:19.000 We knew exactly what to do.

00:04:21.000 But when we got there, those procedures weren't being followed.

00:04:25.000 Like we would say there's something wrong with this signature and send it up for the level two team to take a look at it.

00:04:30.000 And then they would just send it back to us or say they were overwhelmed.

00:04:34.000 So the experts came in and looked at this stuff.

00:04:36.000 And the signature expert specifically said, there's no way that you could accurately compare and verify a signature in that period of time.

00:04:46.000 It's just impossible.

00:04:48.000 Maricopa County came back, tried to impugn the character of the expert witness, tried to have one of their witnesses, Ray Valenzuela, come up and testify to all different times that it could possibly take to look at a signature.

00:05:00.000 But what they didn't do, Charlie, is they never brought their own expert up to counter the point that you could not verify a signature in one second.

00:05:09.000 They never brought a counter expert forward to do that.

00:05:12.000 So this, it was really like looking at somebody floundering the amount of objections that were coming from them, the amount of, you know, character, you know, I don't know, obfuscation they were trying to make with the with the expert witness that was brought forth by the lake team.

00:05:29.000 The things they never did, they never said that the data was incorrect.

00:05:33.000 They never had their own expert up there to counter what Carrie Lake's expert was saying.

00:05:38.000 And they basically resorted to character attacks like the left often does.

00:05:42.000 So what was, do you know what the signature verification rejection rate was in years past?

00:05:46.000 Because it was a 99.7% approval rate.

00:05:49.000 So basically, this is what was happening.

00:05:51.000 If someone was just clicking, approval, approval, approval, approval.

00:05:57.000 Now, why is this important?

00:05:58.000 That if the Democrats indeed had a mule operation where they were in a clandestine way, you know, scooping up ballots and they were not actually from the people they say they are, then who are the people actually doing the clicking?

00:06:13.000 Who are they?

00:06:14.000 Well, two points to that.

00:06:16.000 One is that they had this outward-facing team, right, Charlie?

00:06:19.000 They had like these certain people.

00:06:20.000 They were outside on a, you know, with video and cameras.

00:06:24.000 And unbeknownst to even those people, behind closed doors in another room somewhere, Maricopa County had another hundred and something people doing the same thing without being in front view of cameras and things like that.

00:06:35.000 That's number one.

00:06:36.000 Number two, the approval rate of these signatures got higher the faster that they were sent through.

00:06:45.000 So the faster they verified or clicked okay to send a signature through, the more accurate they say those signature signatures were.

00:06:54.000 You would think it would be the inverse, right?

00:06:56.000 You know, if someone takes six seconds or 10 seconds or 20 seconds to look at a signature, you'd think that that would have a more likely chance of failing rather than somebody who looked at it for a second.

00:07:07.000 And then you see what I'm saying?

00:07:08.000 It was inverse.

00:07:09.000 So you're right.

00:07:11.000 You know, it's very easy to send a bulk of ballots through, have someone just there clicking like they're on a farm.

00:07:17.000 And there was one individual doing that that they identified on video that wasn't able to be entered as evidence, but was used as basically an exhibit or a demonstrative that people were looking at.

00:07:28.000 And there were conflicting stories about this dude.

00:07:30.000 So first he was fired or let go because he didn't do the right thing.

00:07:34.000 Then he just was reassigned because he didn't know technology.

00:07:38.000 Then it went from, it had nothing to do with the fact that he didn't know technology.

00:07:41.000 He was just moved because they had other duties.

00:07:43.000 They got Valenzuela on that on the stand as well.

00:07:46.000 Carrie Lake's team offered up dates that disputed that.

00:07:49.000 So it was really a bunch of just hiding the ball the whole time.

00:07:54.000 Yeah, it just, it's fascinating.

00:07:57.000 We're looking at in years past, the signature verification rejection rate has now gone to basically almost every signature gets approved.

00:08:06.000 And boy, if you really wanted to do something sinister, if you were a bad guy, I'm not saying they did this, you would do everything you can to staff loyal Democrats on the desk that approved the signature verification.

00:08:17.000 You would do everything you possibly could to nefariously try to put the people that are actually approving the signatures at the desk in Maricopa County, controlled by you.

00:08:26.000 So I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:08:28.000 We have a piece of tape from the trial itself.

00:08:31.000 Please play cut 32.

00:08:33.000 Maricopa's log file data shows that 11 of these signature verification workers approved 170,000 signatures at a rate of less than between 0 and 2.99 seconds with a 99.97% approval rating.

00:08:53.000 That's not signature review, Your Honor.

00:08:56.000 Simply flashing a signature on the screen, clicking a button, and moving on is not signature review.

00:09:03.000 Okay, so what was the response from Hobbes?

00:09:05.000 Was there any response from the government or Maricopa on that point?

00:09:09.000 Not really.

00:09:10.000 No, I believe that was from his closing arguments.

00:09:12.000 I mean, their point the entire time was that Carrie Lake had to prove there was no signature verification done, no comparing done, that nobody followed the process.

00:09:20.000 But that's not what the mandate came back down from the Supreme Court as. 0.98

00:09:23.000 So no.

00:09:25.000 You, you know, they had Valazuela, who has done signature verification himself in the past, changing the number of seconds he said it took him to do signature verification.

00:09:34.000 It's impossible, Charlie.

00:09:35.000 You know it.

00:09:36.000 It's impossible.

00:09:37.000 11 people, 270,000 signatures?

00:09:39.000 Come on.

00:09:40.000 It's not possible.

00:09:40.000 You know, it's not possible.

00:09:41.000 So then, did we get any indication of a remedy?

00:09:45.000 Or this was a fraudulently administered election.

00:09:50.000 It's humanly impossible to just even click through that so quickly.

00:09:55.000 Was there any inclination that this was persuasive to this judge?

00:09:59.000 You know, the same thing as the first trial he heard, right?

00:10:02.000 He's very fair in the courtroom.

00:10:03.000 He allows things.

00:10:04.000 He's very fair with his objections.

00:10:06.000 He's very fair with both sides.

00:10:08.000 But when it came down to writing the opinion, it wasn't very fair at all, which was what led us to this, you know, the whole redo, for lack of a better word.

00:10:16.000 I don't have high hopes, even though he appears very fair.

00:10:19.000 I don't think that he's going to rule fair because anyone who did would rule to put this election aside and redo it.

00:10:25.000 They would.

00:10:26.000 I mean, just that one fact.

00:10:28.000 It takes two seconds just to load a page.

00:10:30.000 There was somebody carte blanche just pushing a button and approving basically every so here's how it works, everybody.

00:10:36.000 You have mass mail and ballots post-COVID.

00:10:39.000 You have a bunch of mules and ballot chasers and clandestine subterranean activity by the Democrats that fill out as many ballots as possible and they don't even make the signatures approximated.

00:10:49.000 Now, Tracy, here's an interesting question.

00:10:50.000 And then you have drop boxes.

00:10:52.000 What if you used AI?

00:10:54.000 Ooh, if you used AI with proper parameters, that would actually make them very, very nervous.

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00:11:41.000 So, what they do is they flood the system with mail and ballots, and then no one even approves to see if those signatures are verified.

00:11:48.000 Someone just, it's just an automatic approval process.

00:11:52.000 So, Tracy, how do we go about fixing this?

00:11:56.000 We have a bunch more of our people in there making sure that this stuff goes right.

00:12:01.000 We re-elect good people to run the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

00:12:07.000 We stop using machines.

00:12:09.000 Sonny Borrelli, I think, just sent a letter out to 15 Arizona counties today saying you're not allowed to use your machines.

00:12:15.000 I think a lot of that has to do with a new law that was passed, Charlie, in your state, correct?

00:12:19.000 Yeah, but I'm just curious.

00:12:20.000 The RNC told us they had poll watchers.

00:12:22.000 Is that not correct?

00:12:22.000 Was there was no one watching the signature verification process?

00:12:26.000 Well, I think if that were true, then we wouldn't have had the whistleblowers that came forward to speak with Carrie Lake's team this go-round, but we need more.

00:12:34.000 And I don't think the RNC is doing a very good job in investing in our success in elections at all.

00:12:39.000 That's a wildly underappreciated part of our strategy moving forward.

00:12:44.000 Yeah, so let's kind of talk about this.

00:12:47.000 I want to play another piece of tape here from the trial itself. 0.99

00:12:49.000 And actually, let's get Carrie Lake talking to the gateway pundit. 0.97

00:12:52.000 Let's play Cut 34, please.

00:12:54.000 You know, one of the most shocking things to me is 270,000 ballots verified in less than three seconds each.

00:13:01.000 We had truly one of the countries, basically one of the world's best experts on signature verification and handwriting say that that's humanly impossible.

00:13:11.000 There aren't enough minutes in the day, seconds in the day to do that.

00:13:16.000 And in this portion of our case, we're showing that mail-in ballots just aren't secure because the only security feature that they have, signature verification, is really a sham.

00:13:28.000 It's really a sham.

00:13:29.000 I mean, this is all part of the plan, isn't it?

00:13:32.000 I mean, you flood the system with mail-in ballots.

00:13:34.000 You have zucker boxes. 0.79

00:13:35.000 You have the mules that then are doing things that are probably illegal.

00:13:39.000 And then no one's even actually checking to see if the signature is in alignment with the person on file. 0.86

00:13:46.000 I mean, when you have mass mail-in balloting, the whole system begs itself to this kind of garbage, right?

00:13:52.000 Yeah, it does.

00:13:52.000 And that's why this is such an important case, Charlie.

00:13:55.000 And, you know, that's think about this too.

00:13:57.000 They're not even judging whether or not Maricopa County did a good job in their verification.

00:14:03.000 Like, it's not whether or not this signature absolutely matched and it was a good one.

00:14:07.000 It was whether they did it at all.

00:14:09.000 If they followed their procedures at all, if their procedures were in place and we had honest brokers, it would be better than what's going on now.

00:14:17.000 But as we can see from videotape and also documents and logs that were finally provided after almost a year of waiting for them, they're not doing it.

00:14:26.000 They're not following their procedure.

00:14:28.000 They're not following the law.

00:14:29.000 And they're making it so that a Katie Hobbs and Adrian Fontes are the ones who are running elections in Arizona because if they get Arizona, they get the Electoral College votes.

00:14:38.000 And then they get the presidency.

00:14:40.000 And that's the root of all of this.

00:14:42.000 So there needs to be more done to stop it.

00:14:44.000 And there needs to be a groundswell of people standing up to get involved, even more than were previously.

00:14:51.000 And they need to say something immediately when they see something like this going on.

00:14:54.000 And so you have one of the most disturbing trends.

00:14:57.000 So we've increased mail-in ballots, and we actually have decreased off a cliff the signature verification rejection rate.

00:15:04.000 It should be the opposite.

00:15:06.000 It should be that as more people vote by mail, that we have more standards in.

00:15:11.000 It goes directly the opposite.

00:15:12.000 And I have to say, you know, Bill Gates and Stephen Richard, they're responsible for this.

00:15:17.000 I mean, they oversaw it.

00:15:19.000 These are Republicans.

00:15:21.000 And we need more scrutiny.

00:15:22.000 We need more.

00:15:23.000 This, the same thing, by the way, happened in Georgia.

00:15:26.000 The same thing has happened in Georgia, right?

00:15:30.000 Where the signature verification, this is the fight for 2024.

00:15:34.000 And so, Tracy, outside of abstractions, what concretely is going to change before 2024?

00:15:41.000 Donald Trump will be the nominee.

00:15:43.000 He's going to have a bunch of mail-in ballots.

00:15:45.000 And if it's Joe Biden, who's going to prevent Joe Biden sycophants from just clicking the button again?

00:15:50.000 What's to stop them?

00:15:51.000 I really wish I was in charge of coming up with solutions and not just an investigative journalist, Charlie.

00:15:57.000 No, I don't live in Arizona.

00:15:59.000 I'm just asking for it.

00:16:00.000 It's fine.

00:16:01.000 The answer is nothing.

00:16:02.000 Nothing has changed.

00:16:04.000 There's going to be a left-wing activist at a desk pushing a button for Joe Biden ballots.

00:16:10.000 And nothing has changed.

00:16:13.000 No, there has not been a significant enough change at all.

00:16:17.000 And I would really like to know where all of the money that I donated to make sure those changes happened went to.

00:16:23.000 That's what I would like to know.

00:16:24.000 Well, if it went to the RNC, we know it went to Lululemon.

00:16:26.000 It went to Flowers.

00:16:27.000 It went to Donor Mementos.

00:16:30.000 And I mean, you as a donor should sue, honestly, because you went for voter integrity.

00:16:36.000 I don't understand why we're not suing.

00:16:38.000 I mean, mass mail and balloting went across the board.

00:16:41.000 This is very, the dramatic increase in the raw number of absentee ballots cast was accompanied by a significant decrease in the absentee rejection rate.

00:16:51.000 So you have increase of this and decrease there.

00:16:54.000 That's from MIT, by the way, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

00:16:57.000 Something's amiss.

00:16:58.000 Tracy, excellent work.

00:16:59.000 You're welcome back anytime.

00:17:00.000 Thanks so much.

00:17:01.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:17:02.000 Have a good one.

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00:18:09.000 Let's play Cut 35 as we welcome Sergio Gore, who is the publisher of Trump's latest book.

00:18:13.000 Let's play Cut 35.

00:18:15.000 My fellow Americans, this is your all-time favorite president, Donald J. Trump.

00:18:20.000 Over the last 40 years, I've corresponded with some of the most incredible people, from presidents to kings and queens, and from Hollywood stars to business titans.

00:18:30.000 My new coffee table book, Letters to Trump, published by Winning Team Publishing, features some of these never-before-seen letters.

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00:18:40.000 Get your copy today at 45books.com.

00:18:43.000 I think you'll really, really love it.

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00:18:50.000 Sergio, welcome to the program.

00:18:52.000 Early, it's great to be with you.

00:18:53.000 Congratulations.

00:18:54.000 Everyone I run into, they listen to you.

00:18:56.000 They watch you.

00:18:57.000 It's incredible.

00:18:58.000 Well, thank you.

00:18:59.000 And you got some other big books coming up.

00:19:01.000 You're publishing Judge Neen's book, and you've done ours, and we're going to do another one.

00:19:05.000 But we're here to talk about letters to Trump.

00:19:07.000 When you first told me about this concept, I was just blown away.

00:19:10.000 Tell what you can share, how this concept came to be.

00:19:13.000 Give us the inside story, because these are some of the most incredible letters inside of Trump's entire life, not just this president.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, it's absolutely incredible because if you think about today, people don't correspond in the same way.

00:19:26.000 And so what we did is we went through his archives, and he has decades and decades of these letters.

00:19:32.000 And so I'd go up to Trump Tower, and there's boxes and boxes and boxes.

00:19:36.000 There's thousands of letters.

00:19:37.000 And we narrowed it down to about 200 of them.

00:19:40.000 And they're just absolutely incredible.

00:19:42.000 A lot of them predate the White House.

00:19:43.000 A lot of them go back, you know, 40 years.

00:19:45.000 There's a letter from Nixon that he writes to him in the 80s.

00:19:48.000 And he says, Mrs. Nixon watched you on the Phil Donahue show.

00:19:52.000 Should you choose to run for office, we know you'll be victorious.

00:19:56.000 And they're just the most incredible letters.

00:19:58.000 You have letters from Oprah.

00:19:59.000 You have letters from Diana.

00:20:01.000 Every sports figure is in there.

00:20:03.000 Michael Jackson, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, you name it.

00:20:07.000 Everybody.

00:20:08.000 And these are people that now say they hate him, but it's an interesting window to show that Donald Trump was kind of the pinnacle of American culture, still is.

00:20:20.000 But to get an insight, I mean, just walk us through some of the letters that were the most eye-opening for you as you put together this book.

00:20:26.000 I mean, it was incredible to see, in a sense, there's this great hypocrisy because everybody who was anybody in Hollywood wrote him a letter and they all loved him.

00:20:36.000 There's a letter from Alec Baldwin, and Alec Baldwin writes to him, basically saying, you know, you're the most generous and kind man.

00:20:43.000 And people don't know that side of.

00:20:45.000 There's three letters that we put in.

00:20:47.000 We couldn't put in more from Oprah.

00:20:49.000 There's three letters from Oprah where she says, Donald, imagine if you and I ran for office together.

00:20:54.000 Yeah, that would be.

00:20:54.000 And the thing about the book is you get one side has a letter.

00:20:58.000 The other side, there's a picture in his commentary, and it's Pure Trump.

00:21:01.000 On the Oprah letter, he writes, Oprah loved Mar-a-Lago.

00:21:04.000 She especially loved the turkey burgers and key lamb pie.

00:21:07.000 So you get incredible behind the scenes.

00:21:11.000 There's no other book like it.

00:21:12.000 I mean, we all see him on TV.

00:21:14.000 We know what happened in the White House, but this is a book that goes back many decades before that.

00:21:18.000 You also have some letters from the White House.

00:21:20.000 We have eight letters.

00:21:21.000 He calls them love letters sarcastically with Kim Jong-un.

00:21:25.000 But it's incredible to see his letters with some of the world leaders.

00:21:29.000 And you contrast that with what is happening today.

00:21:33.000 And it's night and day.

00:21:34.000 These leaders respected him.

00:21:35.000 You have letters in there from Putin.

00:21:36.000 You have letters in there from Xi.

00:21:38.000 You have letters from him to Erdogan.

00:21:40.000 And he says, you know, you better straighten out Turkey or I will destroy your economy. 0.99

00:21:45.000 Do you think Joe Biden speaks that way to anyone?

00:21:48.000 And I mean, there are letters from Joel Olstein.

00:21:51.000 There are letters from, you know, top officials and diplomats.

00:21:54.000 Now, Sergio, you got to tell us, what did Trump say in regard to John McCain's letter?

00:22:02.000 I mean, it's the John McCain letter.

00:22:04.000 It's they all, they all wanted him.

00:22:06.000 They all liked him.

00:22:06.000 They all wanted his support.

00:22:07.000 So there's letters of people soliciting money from him that include Hillary Clinton, that include John McCain.

00:22:15.000 He was not a fan of John McCain.

00:22:17.000 And I think to this day, one of the comments that he wrote about McCain is he actually gave him the world's longest funeral, 11 days, and he authorized that from the White House.

00:22:27.000 But it's, you know, you got to get the book, 45.

00:22:30.000 No, but unlike his wars, it was just like his wars that never ended.

00:22:35.000 Correct.

00:22:36.000 Just like his wars, he had a funeral that never ended.

00:22:39.000 And I mean, his incredible letters from the Bushes, from both of them.

00:22:43.000 The senior letter, the senior Bush, his commentary is he kept talking about a thousand points of light, and nobody knew what the hell he's talking about.

00:22:52.000 And to this day, we still don't know.

00:22:54.000 So it's, it's, you really get his honest opinion on a lot of these things because every single word in that book is from him.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, I have a copy of the book.

00:23:03.000 Eric and I were going through it, and it's just entertaining, right?

00:23:05.000 It's a book that everyone should have.

00:23:07.000 And you see kind of a window into this guy that everyone wanted to be president until he actually ran for the presidency.

00:23:13.000 And, you know, kind of who's remained loyal and who hasn't.

00:23:16.000 And he's lived a very, very full life, a uniquely American life as well.

00:23:21.000 You guys could check it out at 45books.com.

00:23:24.000 So, Sergio, tell us about some of the other books that you have.

00:23:26.000 You got Janine, you got Carrie Lake.

00:23:27.000 We're going to come out with another one later in the year.

00:23:30.000 You know, we have the great Charlie Kirk.

00:23:32.000 I see that book right behind you.

00:23:34.000 Every day, people look at it every day.

00:23:36.000 I love it.

00:23:37.000 It's an incredible book because, and they're so timely.

00:23:40.000 If you think about academia and how left it has gone, and your listeners can go to collegescam.com to get your copy.

00:23:47.000 It's a book that keeps on selling because it has no ending.

00:23:51.000 It has no, it just is correct.

00:23:53.000 Yes.

00:23:54.000 Exactly.

00:23:55.000 What kind of feedback did you get on your book after?

00:23:58.000 Oh, I mean, well, look, it actually matures nicer with time.

00:24:01.000 It's like a fine wine, only gets better with time, right?

00:24:04.000 And we knew that when we published it together.

00:24:06.000 And the feedback I'm getting, you know, from a lot of people is: Charlie, I disagreed with the title, but I liked you enough to read it and you persuaded me.

00:24:14.000 That's what we were going after, right?

00:24:15.000 Because when we put together, you know, because you could write any book and we said, hey, how are we going to do this in a persuasive way?

00:24:21.000 You know, and what we did with the college scam was write it as an indictment, right?

00:24:25.000 A 10-count indictment against the college cartel.

00:24:28.000 And I mean, the great turning point, if you will, was Sergio, I got more compliments in a two-week period back when Stanford and that whole law school thing happened.

00:24:38.000 Remember that happened about a month or two ago?

00:24:40.000 Absolutely.

00:24:41.000 Where the law students start heckling the judge, a federal judge, and then the Dean of Diversity comes in and defends it, a federal judge, and the dean says, oh, you're triggering to the students.

00:24:55.000 I mean, at that point, how could you not believe it's a scam?

00:24:58.000 Then we have the UC Davis situation where I went to go speak at Davis and they come with weapons and they come with all this.

00:25:03.000 And then the Riley Gaines situation at Turning Point USA, where she goes to speak at San Francisco State University and they hold her hostage and they kidnap her.

00:25:12.000 I think the argument that Sergio, I have to say, when we first published this last summer, it was a little provocative.

00:25:18.000 I don't know if it's as provocative now.

00:25:19.000 People are like, yeah, of course it's a scam.

00:25:21.000 I think we moved you over to the window.

00:25:21.000 Of course it is.

00:25:24.000 You're 100% right.

00:25:25.000 You hit the nail on the head with that book.

00:25:28.000 It's an incredible thing.

00:25:29.000 You know, you send your well-raised kids to a college education and they get turned upside down.

00:25:35.000 You prove that every week when you visit these college campuses, these ID logs that want to change you, they want to guilt you.

00:25:42.000 And they want to redefine America, frankly.

00:25:45.000 And you're supposed to pay for that privilege.

00:25:46.000 So it's absolutely obscene what is happening.

00:25:49.000 So anyone who has kids, grandkids, or themselves, if they're going to college, it's a must-read because it'll open your eyes.

00:25:57.000 It's an incredible book.

00:25:58.000 And I think it does a service, frankly.

00:26:00.000 The other books that we have coming out, we have a book actually coming out tomorrow from Judge Janine Piro.

00:26:04.000 Good judge.

00:26:06.000 So that's also available on our website.

00:26:09.000 A phenomenal book.

00:26:10.000 It's an indictment against Joe Biden and what he has done, whether it's open borders or law enforcement defunding or just these crazies that are running our country.

00:26:22.000 They're literally and figuratively crimes against America.

00:26:26.000 So there's no quite book like it.

00:26:28.000 Very timely.

00:26:29.000 There's an entire chapter on Majorca's.

00:26:32.000 Articles of impeachment were just filed against him last week.

00:26:35.000 So it's an incredible book to also get.

00:26:37.000 Well, and it's been, you know, I've kind of seen this firsthand.

00:26:40.000 And Sergio, you deserve a lot of credit.

00:26:41.000 And it's just so impressive to look at the authors.

00:26:43.000 I'm honored to be one of them on 45books.com.

00:26:46.000 You got President Trump, Judge Janine, myself, Carrie Lake, Don Jr., Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:26:51.000 Can you just talk philosophically a little bit?

00:26:53.000 You're a new shop, but you're really disrupting the traditional publishing world.

00:26:57.000 Talk about, was there a concern that you had that the traditional publishing world was a little bit just politically correct, not as friendly to conservatives?

00:27:07.000 I mean, because now you've kind of become the desired place for conservative writers.

00:27:14.000 Absolutely.

00:27:14.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 I mean, it's, I'm in New York right now, and you go down Madison Avenue.

00:27:18.000 That's where the publishers are.

00:27:20.000 So you might be a conservative, but your book is still being published by New Yorkers.

00:27:24.000 The big five, a lot of them, you know, there's a lot of left-leaning folks that run those places.

00:27:31.000 And so it's a scary thing because they will edit you.

00:27:34.000 They will censor you.

00:27:35.000 They will cancel you.

00:27:36.000 We've had elected officials, senators that have been gotten canceled by some of the big five.

00:27:42.000 And to me, publishing, I have nothing against liberal books.

00:27:45.000 They should put them out.

00:27:46.000 Frankly, they don't sell.

00:27:48.000 They don't sell.

00:27:48.000 It's hilarious.

00:27:49.000 Yeah.

00:27:49.000 Conservative books make up the vast market of book sales.

00:27:53.000 And so why are we supporting these insane publishing houses that hate us?

00:27:57.000 They don't agree with us.

00:27:58.000 They despise us.

00:28:00.000 They're not helping us.

00:28:02.000 So we're propping them up so they can put out more liberal propaganda out there.

00:28:07.000 And so for us, we filled an incredible niche.

00:28:09.000 It's been overwhelming because every month we get multiple pitches.

00:28:13.000 I mean, it's non-stop people reaching out to us.

00:28:16.000 And so we're careful.

00:28:17.000 We don't want to become a clearinghouse where we're all winners.

00:28:20.000 Right.

00:28:20.000 That's why you're winning team.

00:28:22.000 Right?

00:28:23.000 Exactly.

00:28:23.000 We're winning team.

00:28:24.000 If you're not with us, you're a loser. 0.99

00:28:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:28:29.000 I love it because, look, it's a select deal.

00:28:31.000 And we're seeing this change in media.

00:28:33.000 We're seeing this change in television.

00:28:35.000 We're seeing this change in podcasting.

00:28:37.000 And now we're seeing the change in book publishing.

00:28:39.000 Sergio Gore from Winning Team Publishing.

00:28:41.000 Stay right there.

00:28:41.000 Everybody, check it out at 45books.com.

00:28:44.000 That's number 45books.com.

00:28:46.000 And if you want to check out the college scam, which if I were to brag on our own work, is pretty good.

00:28:52.000 And college is a scam.

00:28:54.000 If you disagree with me, read the book and then tell me why.

00:28:56.000 Most people who read the book are convinced that it's collegescam.com, college scam.com.

00:29:05.000 Are you feeling burned out and a little tired?

00:29:07.000 Look, I want to tell you about something that I've become a big believer in.

00:29:10.000 And if you do not know about it, you got to research it.

00:29:12.000 You could fact check me.

00:29:13.000 It's NAD.

00:29:15.000 NAD is a precursor for your body to be able to create ATP, which is basically the life force of everything that you do.

00:29:22.000 And look, there's a lot of people out there that are promising energy and doing all this, but go do some research on NAD and go see actually how incredibly important it is for high performance to be able to go actually get it to the next level.

00:29:36.000 And so what does NAD stand for?

00:29:38.000 Well, try to take a note here.

00:29:39.000 It is nicotinamide adenonide dinucleotide.

00:29:44.000 I did that pretty well, don't you think?

00:29:46.000 NAD.

00:29:47.000 It's a coenzyme that is central to metabolism.

00:29:50.000 Again, don't take my word for it.

00:29:51.000 Go watch a YouTube video or two or three or four and go fact check me on it.

00:29:55.000 I've been taking NAD for quite some time.

00:29:57.000 And people say, Charlie, how do you travel 2,700 days in a decade?

00:30:01.000 How do you do the 300 days a year?

00:30:03.000 How do you do that?

00:30:04.000 Look, it's not only because of this.

00:30:05.000 I eat well and do other things as well.

00:30:08.000 But if you look at NADH, especially when it combines with CoQ10 and marine collagen, it boosts your body's cellular function.

00:30:15.000 I would never tell you guys to go do something I myself did not do.

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00:30:37.000 So go to strongcell.com forward slash Charlie today and see for yourself.

00:30:41.000 It's not a stimulant.

00:30:42.000 It doesn't contain any caffeine.

00:30:44.000 I'm talking about overall health from the cellular level.

00:30:46.000 NADH has been called the anti-aging enzyme that helps with so many issues like brain fog, short-term memory loss, blood pressure, heart disease, blood sugar retention, and so much more.

00:30:57.000 And look, it's not a magic pill.

00:30:58.000 It's like, oh, I'm going to start taking this and I'm going to be super smart.

00:31:00.000 No, no, it's an additive, an amplifier on people that want to get better.

00:31:05.000 But I could tell you, it makes a big difference.

00:31:08.000 I've personally seen undeniable benefits from taking Strong Cell and engaging with NAD every day.

00:31:13.000 So I had to partner with them.

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00:31:57.000 45books.com.

00:31:59.000 You also go check out the college scam.

00:32:02.000 And it's one of my favorite, favorite things I've worked on.

00:32:05.000 And it was about a decade of work that got, it was culminated.

00:32:08.000 Sergio, wasn't it interesting when we published the college scam while you published it and I wrote it?

00:32:12.000 How few hit pieces there were?

00:32:14.000 You know, you and I were anticipating all these people telling us the book is wrong.

00:32:18.000 And it's a bulletproof argument.

00:32:20.000 I mean, I'm not saying it braggadociously.

00:32:22.000 It's just, it's so factual.

00:32:23.000 I remember when we were going through it, it's 30 pages of citations.

00:32:27.000 It's a very data-rich book.

00:32:29.000 Yeah, I mean, it's one of the things that we put in all our books.

00:32:31.000 And not all books have citations, but we actually insist on them because we know we're going to get fact-checked.

00:32:36.000 And it's incredible when you cite them.

00:32:38.000 You know, we have lawyers review these books, these manuscripts.

00:32:41.000 It's absolutely incredible the amount of citations you had in there.

00:32:46.000 Over 30 pages, if I recall.

00:32:48.000 Every single thing was cited.

00:32:50.000 Every single thing, there's backup for it.

00:32:53.000 So when you say there's basket weaving being offered at Ivy League schools, we'll give you the link to that course.

00:32:59.000 That's correct.

00:33:01.000 No hyperbole, no speculation.

00:33:03.000 Sergio, you said something that really interested our audience.

00:33:06.000 Dennis emailed, he's curious.

00:33:07.000 Can you just tell us more about how liberal books don't sell?

00:33:11.000 It seems to be a pattern, right?

00:33:12.000 Conservatives are doing better on social media, doing better on podcasting, doing better on radio, doing better on television, doing better on book sales.

00:33:22.000 What is your hypothesis as to why?

00:33:25.000 You know, it's an interesting question.

00:33:28.000 I've thought about it also.

00:33:30.000 I don't know that there's one answer, but I think just the conservative audience is, frankly, they care more about things.

00:33:37.000 And so they will go pick up that book.

00:33:39.000 They will go to our website.

00:33:41.000 They will go, you know, on Amazon.

00:33:43.000 Conservative books just sell more.

00:33:45.000 When Mark Levin puts out a book, there's nothing that comes close to it.

00:33:50.000 You have these senators, these members of Congress, they put out books, they flop.

00:33:55.000 You have prominent members of Congress on the left.

00:33:57.000 They can't sell 10,000 books.

00:34:00.000 To put it in perspective, Trump's books sell hundreds of thousands every month.

00:34:05.000 Same for yours.

00:34:06.000 Your book was a great success.

00:34:07.000 The pre-orders we're getting on Carrie Lake right now are incredible.

00:34:11.000 Judge Janine, who's on one of the top shows on TV, her sales are incredible.

00:34:17.000 When somebody puts out a book from another cable station that's not quite on our side, it's not the same.

00:34:23.000 It doesn't have the same reach.

00:34:24.000 It doesn't have the same interest.

00:34:27.000 I don't know.

00:34:30.000 If you wanted more of the same, there's already enough of it. 0.99

00:34:32.000 There is a vast market supply of left-wing garbage, right? 0.99

00:34:36.000 You get it everywhere. 0.98

00:34:37.000 So the places that actually are able to tell the truth, President Trump, Don Jr., Judge Janine, that there's a market for that.

00:34:45.000 There is an attraction to it.

00:34:47.000 There's a magnetism to it.

00:34:49.000 And so, Sergio, we're seeing this amazing kind of book schedule.

00:34:52.000 Carrie Lakes coming up in late June.

00:34:54.000 Tell us about that book. 0.90

00:34:55.000 So Carrie Lakes, you know, she's been one of the most incredible people from the last election cycle. 0.96

00:35:00.000 I think she took the MAGA side by storm.

00:35:03.000 She has an incredible book.

00:35:04.000 I was just traveling with Carrie two weeks ago, Unafraid.

00:35:07.000 And truly, she's unafraid.

00:35:08.000 I mean, the stories that she has in there that describe her race, that describe her upbringing.

00:35:13.000 A lot of people know Carrie Lake from TV and how polished she is and how she's able to punch at anyone that comes at her.

00:35:21.000 But this is a great book because it takes us back into her upbringing.

00:35:24.000 And it takes us back into when she was a child growing up in Iowa, before she moved to Arizona, before she got in the media.

00:35:31.000 It's also a fascinating book because there's not a lot of people in the media that will write this sort of book.

00:35:37.000 You'd likely get canceled. 1.00

00:35:38.000 Carrie doesn't care. 0.96

00:35:39.000 She's telling the truth.

00:35:40.000 And so it's a book that if you're interested in where she came from, where she's going, what happened in Arizona, there's some incredible stories that have never been told before.

00:35:49.000 It's wonderful.

00:35:50.000 45books.com.

00:35:51.000 And Sergio, I know you got some other ones that are coming up.

00:35:54.000 There's big changes in the kind of media consumption landscape.

00:35:58.000 But check out President Trump's book, Letters to Trump Right Now, 45Books.com.

00:36:02.000 Sergio, thanks so much.

00:36:03.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:36:04.000 Keep up the great work.

00:36:05.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:36:06.000 I want to remind you to get your tickets to our Young Women's Leadership Summit.

00:36:10.000 You can see the sign behind me at tpusa.com slash YWLS.

00:36:16.000 If you are a woman, a biological woman, if you have a granddaughter or a daughter, send them to tpusa.com slash YWLS. 0.67

00:36:24.000 Laura Ingram, Candace Owens, Laura Trump, Carrie Lake, Alex Clark, Allie Bistuckey, my wife will be speaking, Yanmi Park, Congresswoman Alina Paulina Luna, Michelle Tofoya, Marjorie Taylor Green, and more.

00:36:38.000 Riley Gaines will be there.

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00:36:42.000 It's YWLS2023.

00:36:44.000 We're going to be promoting it a lot.

00:36:45.000 It is the largest event in the country for female conservatives.

00:36:48.000 We've got to get the word out in Dallas, Texas, June 9, 10-11.

00:36:51.000 That is June 9, 10-11, tpusa.com or YWLS2023.

00:36:58.000 That's YWLS 2023.

00:37:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:03.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:07.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 23, 2023

The Steal is in the Signatures with Tracy Beanz and Sergio Gor

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