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00:03:22.000And I think this is a really telling clip because as soon as, listen, you may not like this conflict, you may have skepticism, hesitancy, as I did.
00:03:33.000But President Trump's onto something with this blockade.
00:03:44.000You've got, I don't know, 10 to 15 U.S. destroyers in the area, vessels that can actually shoot down missiles, whatever they have left in their stockpile.
00:03:52.000So now the Strait was their big point of leverage.
00:03:56.000So if you block the Strait, you're cutting off their money.
00:03:59.000That's really a big deal to Iran and the future prospects of the Iranian regime, what's left of it.
00:04:05.000And I think this word that President Trump uses with CNN is really, really important.
00:04:25.000I know that when revenues start to dry up, that all of a sudden you start to scramble.
00:04:30.000I think the Iranian regime realized that their cash flow was going to take a big hit.
00:04:35.000When all of a sudden ships can't move in and out of the Straits of Hormuz.
00:04:38.000And so I think President Trump did a brilliant job of taking that position.
00:04:42.000I mean, it was, you know, it seemed risky to everybody, but really it was the one that I think put them on their heels and said, look, we have to have that cash.
00:05:35.000President Trump is going to ensure, at least this is what we're hearing, that he's going to get all of the nuclear components, the nuclear dust, the uranium dust.
00:05:46.000Yeah, he says so he opened just two hours ago.
00:05:49.000He said, The Strait of Hormuz is completely open and ready for business and full passage, but the naval blockade will remain in force and in effect as it pertains to Iran only until such time as our transaction with Iran is 100% complete.
00:06:08.000And then he continued right after, without all caps this time.
00:06:11.000The USA will get all nuclear dust created by our great B 2 bombers.
00:06:15.000No money will exchange hands in any way, shape, or form.
00:06:19.000We know he was very critical of the Obama nuclear deal, which gave Iran a lot of money.
00:06:23.000He says this deal is in no way subject to Lebanon, but the USA will separately work with Lebanon and deal with the Hezbollah situation in an appropriate manner.
00:06:32.000Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer.
00:06:35.000They are prohibited from doing so by the USA.
00:08:38.000You might see the geopolitical ramifications of this.
00:08:41.000But that doesn't mean that normies out there that aren't consuming the news every day understand the ramifications geopolitically, what this does to China, what this does potentially to end conflicts for a long time in the Middle East.
00:08:54.000I've said it before, and I'll say it again, that this could have been the Absolutely right, geopolitical national security move, but it will have a political cost.
00:09:02.000So, the point in politics is where do you want to spend your political capital?
00:09:06.000We want to get through this and we want to spend our political capital right here at home.
00:09:09.000We want to nation build right here at home.
00:09:11.000I think it's pretty clear, as you say, I think it's pretty clear, as we said, this had a political hit to the president, but we said if he can resolve it successfully, pivot domestically, and if he has something he can point to, that this is our last war, that this was a successful war.
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00:11:22.000We have the excellent Chris Ruffo joining us to talk about his sustained operation to bring down Gavin Newsom's California before it devours the entire country.
00:11:57.000But just in the last few days, you got another story which went incredibly viral and deservedly so, which is that California is, I don't even, in a sense, I don't know why this is a news story because I think, uh, Kamala Harris basically ran on this as her platform in 2024.
00:12:15.000But California is giving free sex change procedures to homeless, illegal aliens.
00:12:22.000Your team went into the streets and you found the people who are getting free taxpayer funded hormones, breast implants, sex change operations.
00:12:33.000And so if you look in California's Medi Cal documents, it says very clearly that they provide health care to illegal aliens and also that they provide.
00:12:42.000Gender affirming care, which is a euphemism for sex change procedures.
00:12:47.000But we went a little bit deeper and wanted to figure out where these things intersect.
00:12:51.000So we visited a number of homeless shelters in San Francisco.
00:12:54.000And outside of each one, there were groups of trans migrants, mostly from Honduras and Mexico, who told us very clearly we came into the United States, in many cases, crossed the border illegally because we knew that if we made it to San Francisco, Gavin Newsom would give us free sex change hormones, free shelter, free food.
00:13:19.000And so it was kind of one of those moments where you're like blown away because it seems like a right wing fever dream.
00:13:26.000But in the streets of California, on the ground, first hand sources, they tell you as if it were just another Tuesday.
00:13:33.000So even if this was costing $10, it would be manifestly insane.
00:13:37.000But what's the expense on some of these operations?
00:13:39.000How much does it cost to give one of these illegal migrants breast implants or to lop it off, as it were?
00:13:47.000Well, what's really interesting is the total cost.
00:13:50.000So, some of the more complex genital surgeries can cost half a million dollars.
00:13:54.000But what happens when you go through all of these surgical procedures, you start taking the hormones, you become a lifelong ward of the transgender medical system.
00:14:04.000So, you have to go back month after month after month for your entire life to receive all of these follow up treatments.
00:14:11.000And so, the cost can easily balloon into seven figures.
00:14:15.000This is a million dollar, multi million dollar lifetime medical process.
00:14:21.000You know why doctors like to do it because they have a lifetime patient.
00:14:25.000You know why Gavin Newsom likes to do it because he gets a pat on the head from all of the left wing activists that are living in his state and living across the country.
00:14:34.000But what's mind boggling is that California voters also seem to support these policies.
00:14:58.000There's stuff people aren't even maybe familiar with that they'll get, like male to females, they'll get their Adam's apple shaved down because that's more prominent.
00:15:06.000You'll shave down their cheekbones to have a softer face.
00:15:09.000Sometimes, you know, we're all gentlemen here, at least I suspect we are.
00:15:14.000And sometimes we use euphemisms to talk about how disgusting this stuff is.
00:15:18.000But if you are a male to female transitioner, then I mean, they're literally boring a hole in your pelvis, and that hole wants to heal.
00:15:28.000And this is what you're talking about.
00:15:29.000You become a lifelong ward of the state or of the medical industrial complex here.
00:15:34.000And you have to receive treatments over your life to ensure that this stays open.
00:15:41.000It's an open wound that we're pretending is anatomy.
00:15:48.000California would do this to its own taxpayers, and the taxpayers would somehow go along with this as if it was compassionate.
00:15:54.000I mean, do we have polling on this, Chris, in the state of California?
00:15:58.000Yeah, it really depends how you phrase it.
00:16:00.000And so, if you phrase it like the left likes to do as life saving, gender affirming care, it polls fairly well.
00:16:07.000But if you actually explain to people the kind of physical mechanics of what this is, and Andrew, your point is really a good one.
00:16:14.000You know, we talked with one of these migrants, trans migrants from Mexico, who said he got free.
00:16:19.000Breast implants from Medi Cal, and he was now on the wait list for bottom surgery, which is another one of those euphemisms, as you're talking about, which is essentially castrating an adult male and using that penile tissue to create an artificial vagina.
00:16:40.000And again, if you explain that to people, the popularity plummets.
00:16:44.000Even in a left wing state like California, people just don't want this.
00:16:50.000When you tell them the truth, they recoil.
00:16:52.000And so that's why it's important, as you guys have done on the show and as Charlie did over and over, to just give people the straight facts, even if it's a little bit uncomfortable.
00:17:03.000Chris, I just want to pause because I know Blake's an avid reader and I'm such a huge fan as well of the work that you guys are doing at City Journal, Manhattan Institute.
00:17:12.000You guys have some of the most incredible reporting.
00:17:15.000I mean, the Minneapolis stuff was from, I believe, you and your colleague, Ryan.
00:19:00.000I mean, we have reporters spending a month, sometimes two months, just on a single story.
00:19:04.000We're not a content mill trying to generate a million links a day, but we really want those stories that peel back the kind of onion of progressive governance, in this case in California, to reveal what's happening beneath the surface.
00:19:20.000Well, I really want to flag this because Gavin Newsom's government has tried to dispute the fraud claims, which we'll get to in the next segment, but they have, in fact, doubled down on this.
00:19:30.000Trans surgery thing, they put out a statement.
00:19:32.000This is from Gavin Newsom's communications office.
00:19:36.000Undocumented Californians don't get special treatment.
00:19:39.000Everyone on Medi Cal gets the same access to care.
00:19:42.000If you want to call California woke for not letting politicians interfere with doctors or not wanting people to die in the streets, then go ahead.
00:19:53.000That's their response to the clip we just played.
00:20:06.000And so this is something we see even with young girls.
00:20:09.000They say, you know, if you don't let this person transition, if you don't provide the hormones and the surgeries and the drugs, they're going to commit suicide.
00:20:25.000And of course, he's essentially admitting that, yes, we are giving transgenders, migrants, and illegal aliens these gender surgeries, but it's a good thing.
00:20:36.000And so, you know, he can't escape the facts.
00:20:39.000They knew that we had caught them in the act.
00:20:41.000And so they're trying to run defense and these very sleazy emotional blackmail techniques that we've seen for years.
00:20:51.000Charlie had an absolutely relentless passion for learning.
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00:22:16.000So we covered the trans focus, but there's a bigger picture that you've been highlighting, which is that this is one small part.
00:22:23.000I guess you can't even call that fraudulent.
00:22:25.000They're just openly saying this is what we spend money on.
00:22:28.000But there's also that California is the apotheosis of what you might call the Minnesota problem, which is easy fraud all over the place that's going unchecked.
00:22:39.000California has lost at least $180 billion to fraud.
00:22:44.000If you want a point of comparison, that's about the size of the economy of Qatar or Kuwait or Uzbekistan.
00:22:52.000It's larger than the economy of Mississippi.
00:22:54.000That's a pretty large amount of fraud, and it's coming from a lot of different places, isn't it, Chris?
00:22:59.000Yeah, I mean, we had four reporters working on this story for a number of months, and it felt like every lead we chased down opened up a whole dozen new leads about fraud within the California system.
00:23:12.000But if you want to break it down in the simplest way possible, you have three major buckets.
00:23:18.000We know that unemployment insurance in California was defrauded of more than $30 billion under Gavin Newsom.
00:23:24.000The second bucket, the biggest bucket, is Medi-Cal, the state Medicaid program.
00:23:29.000We know that there is somewhere between 20 and 25% of that budget is lost every year to fraud.
00:23:36.000Currently, about $200 billion in total spending.
00:23:39.000So, we're talking about, you know, let's say between $20 and $50 billion conservatively on the low end.
00:23:46.000And then a kind of grab bag of other programs that are rife with fraud homelessness services, food stamps, autism services, welfare programs.
00:23:58.000And so, if you really pull back, the total scale of this is really astonishing.
00:24:05.000It seems that California is designed to do two things.
00:24:09.000One, it's designed to line the pockets of Gavin Newsom's key allies in the labor unions, the teachers unions, the medical system.
00:24:17.000And then second, it seemed to permit fraud because fraud increases spending, fraud increases the kind of perception of job growth within the state, and that some of that fraud is doubtlessly routed into the NGOs, into the unions, into the other parts of the system where Gavin Newsom generates his power.
00:24:38.000Yeah, I'm just looking through some of the examples here.
00:24:42.000You have someone who embezzled $2.2 million for exotic cars.
00:24:45.000They got the monthly rent on a 6,500 square foot mansion.
00:25:33.000During the early months of COVID and California's response, they essentially opened up the unemployment insurance program to distribute money with no checks.
00:25:43.000In our reporting, we found two very interesting things.
00:25:46.000One, there were only two bureaucrats in Sacramento controlling potential fraud in the unemployment system, which was issuing tens of billions of dollars per month in claims.
00:25:57.000I mean, it was really just open season.
00:26:00.000And one of the stories we found, which was just a perfect encapsulation, during this period, a rapper in Memphis, Tennessee named Nuke Bizzle released a music video showing exactly how he was filing false claims with California unemployment.
00:26:16.000And harvesting hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the system.
00:26:21.000Because he made the music video, he was eventually tried and convicted for embezzling $700,000.
00:26:28.000But the kind of dirty secret, he only got caught because he literally made a music video teaching people how he was stealing money from the state of California.
00:26:38.000So if you kept it a little more low key, you almost certainly got away with it.
00:26:43.000Yeah, and I'm looking here that they were paying, they paid out some COVID benefits to.
00:26:49.000A bunch of hundreds of millions of dollars worth to prisoners' names, including 133 inmates on death row.
00:27:01.000This money, it just seems like nobody's checking any of the work.
00:27:04.000They're not checking to see if people are actually needing this.
00:27:07.000And I think that's the other side of the story is that not only is it fleecing the taxpayers, but it's so bad that you have to imagine people that actually need help in services are not able to get it or something.
00:27:19.000I mean, I just, are there any checks and balances, Chris?
00:27:36.000It really does appear that they see the fraud as some kind of social justice, maybe redistribution of wealth from California's wealthy class and productive class to California's criminal class.
00:27:49.000I mean, you really need to go back and like read your Dostoevsky and read your Nietzsche to find the philosophical core of this because, on the surface, if you're a regular middle class taxpayer, it's almost too difficult to understand how the kleptocratic Criminal political class in California just give out tens of billions of dollars per year to fraudsters with seemingly no interest in making it stop.
00:28:17.000You guys have done incredible work over at City Journal, over at the Manhattan Institute.
00:28:22.000It takes a long time to do it this way.
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00:31:00.000At that point, you know, a lot of people ended up making that thought about Charlie or thinking that could be a potential in his future later on, but this was early.
00:31:08.000I said, Do you want to be president or do you want to be Rush Limbaugh?
00:31:11.000And he said, Well, I definitely know that I want to be more like Rush Limbaugh.
00:31:15.000I had to pick a route, not to compare himself to Rush by any stretch of the imagination.
00:31:20.000He just said that that is a direction of where I want to go.
00:31:25.000And Charlie and I were both Rush babies.
00:31:27.000We grew up with our parents listening to Rush in the car.
00:31:30.000And he left a profound impact on both my life and Charlie's life.
00:31:34.000And so when Glenn Beck came to the studio and put that mic on in front of Charlie's chair, it was a tremendous honor and an amazing moment.
00:31:58.000It was a lovely tribute, but he did not permanently gift us, which is frankly good because, as he said, Glenn actually has a museum in the Dallas area.
00:32:07.000You can go and see it yourself, and a lot of other things.
00:33:12.000And I'm glad it's in a museum safe and sound.
00:33:14.000And, you know, honestly, we probably couldn't keep it as safe as it needed to be here, anyways, with as many people in and out of the studio.
00:35:03.000Well, and Paul Danz ended up dropping out and throwing his support behind Lynch, which is good because it consolidates the primary field and gives us a better chance of replacing Lindsey Graham.
00:35:14.000And actually, ironically enough, when you talk about the governor's race in California, it's the Democrats that are concerned about the prospects there of having a splintered field that could result, in theory, in two Republicans.
00:35:26.000I think that's less likely now that Swalwell has dropped out.
00:35:29.000But the larger point that you're getting at here, the question is how do you get them to thin the field so that people can throw their support behind the more, I guess, the candidates with the best chance of actually getting elected?
00:35:43.000And really, this comes down to party apparatus at the state level and the county level.
00:35:48.000So, what that reflects is a weakened GOP in California that can't sort of exert itself and tell candidates what to do.
00:35:54.000So, sometimes you have to give candidates an off ramp, you have to give them other opportunities, you have to say, hey, if you get out, we'll make sure you have a A position on this board or something.
00:36:06.000And so, the stronger the local party, the stronger the state party, the more influence and pressure that they can wield to get that done.
00:36:13.000You know, sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes it's a bad thing.
00:36:15.000Sometimes you want the grassroots candidates to stay in because the base gets more of a vote and you don't want the party apparatus to sort of dominate which candidates get the support and not.
00:36:26.000So, it's tough because naturally politics does, it attracts.
00:36:31.000People with egos, people who have a bit of megalomania.
00:36:33.000So, a lot of people like you don't really want to run for governor unless you really truly believe you can win.
00:36:38.000And a lot of people believe they can win even if they can't.
00:37:17.000Well, it's also interesting, too, because I was recently issued a trespass notice by the University of Guelph, not for anything that I said or did, but because I was in the vicinity of my father, who had what they deemed to be a hateful conversation with two Middle Eastern girls in the parking lot.
00:37:55.000So you're saying that for engaging in a conversation, which you didn't, but just let's say for a moment that you did, debating, I don't know, Islam in the West, let's say it was a spicy conversation.
00:38:07.000They're saying that that is so hateful that you could be trespassed and banned from a university.
00:38:17.000I mean, it wasn't even hateful, though.
00:38:19.000Well, okay, let's just say it was argumentative.
00:38:23.000Let's say you guys, it was a fierce disagreement about the merits of Islam or its compatibility with Western culture, which would be a very spicy conversation to have face to face, I admit.
00:38:34.000But even then, it just underscores the value of the First Amendment in the United States that that is totally open and free for having that conversation.
00:38:42.000The fact that you can't do that without, you know, falling afoul of some hate speech codes in Canada is really a A really terrible indictment of the Canadian system.
00:38:52.000Yeah, but Canada's unfortunately an unfree country or a post freedom country, you might say.
00:39:01.000I was curious if anything like that ever happened to Charlie because I know he went on a lot.
00:39:06.000There's a lot more campuses in the United States and I know he went on a lot of them.
00:39:11.000Was he ever trespassed by a university for anything?
00:39:14.000That's a really interesting question because it gets at the heart of kind of why he was effective because over time, Charlie and Turning Point more generally, they got very good at knowing what the rules were.
00:39:27.000For example, if the university tries to block you, when is what they're doing valid?
00:39:32.000And when are they just trying to BS you, trying to say, oh, there's security risks, you're not allowed to speak, and say, actually, you're a public university.
00:39:39.000You have to allow us to speak if you allow those people.
00:39:46.000Yeah, so I remember, I don't think he was ever trespassed off a university, but I remember the University of New Mexico, which used to put up.
00:39:55.000They would ship people in from all over.
00:39:58.000Most of these were not students, but they would make a lot of noise.
00:40:01.000And they actually kind of harassed Tommy Laren, who was visiting with us at some event.
00:40:08.000And so Charlie had made it a point to get back to the University of New Mexico and basically just to plant the flag and say, you will not intimidate us.
00:40:15.000We don't care if you're going to try and put Tommy Laren in a locker in a room somewhere, which is, I believe, what happened.
00:40:21.000They ended up having to get escorted out by.
00:40:25.000So Charlie went back there, and I remember he stood on the roof of one of the buildings and waved at the protesters, and the police did not like that.
00:40:34.000And they threatened him with arrest, and they basically said he was goading the protesters.
00:40:39.000And really, he's just out there waving.
00:40:40.000He just stood up on the roof of one of the buildings and looked at them and waved.
00:40:45.000And it was an important symbolic gesture to say, You will not intimidate us, you will not drive us off this campus.
00:40:51.000And yeah, I mean, that was the closest I remember him ever getting arrested.
00:40:57.000To Riley Gaines, where she got locked in a room, in a private room where protesters were pounding on the doors and she had to be sort of protected by police.
00:41:04.000Hours later, she ended up getting out of that situation, but it was a terrible situation.
00:41:19.000And I remember there was a bunch of hullabaloo after that event when he came back and told us what actually happened.
00:41:26.000But all he did was stand up there and wave.
00:41:28.000And they had this huge protest out there for him, and he would not be intimidated.
00:41:33.000But that's what we loved about Charlie because he looked them right in the eye.
00:41:37.000And to Blake's point, because of the movement at turning point, and because we were, especially during Trump 1.0, he Did a bunch of executive orders on free speech on college campuses.
00:41:47.000It created a whole culture and a whole news media environment around enforcing free speech laws on college campuses.
00:41:55.000And there was, you know, FIRE was involved, ADF, Alliance Defending Freedom was involved.
00:42:00.000I'm curious if ADF does any work in Canada.
00:42:03.000I would presume no, just because the laws are so distinct.
00:42:19.000Hate speech laws, you can, a whole battery of things.
00:42:24.000And that's without even getting into the eccentric parts of Canada, the way large chunks of your major cities are being ceded over to the First Nations.
00:42:36.000One last thing about Charlie, one thing he would have been fascinated by your story because I know one of his goals that he talked about was he was interested in speaking in more countries.
00:42:46.000And one of the things he wanted to try was going to Germany and reciting facts about immigration that you'd get in trouble for saying there.
00:42:52.000If you were a German, and he said his goal was to get arrested or cause a diplomatic incident or get himself deported, start some sort of ruckus.
00:43:00.000And I think he would have been inspired by a story like yours to maybe try the same thing in Canada.
00:43:04.000I remember actually, there was some concern at one point whether or not Charlie was even going to be allowed to go into Canada.
00:43:09.000There was, we got, it's vague, the memories, it's through the cobwebs here, but there was some concern that Charlie was on some list and wouldn't be allowed in Canada at one point.
00:43:23.000Tested it or tried it or looked into it deeper, but there was some concern that he was on a list and we were sort of warned that it could cause a problem if he ever tried to go to Canada.
00:43:30.000Thank you for fighting the good fight in a very tough environment.
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00:44:52.000So, I'm kind of in a unique situation politically and stuff, but because the thing is that I've always been MAGA, but I'm also dating a foreign woman.
00:45:03.000And I'm struggling with how to balance immigration reforms with keeping out illegals, but also not harming guys like me who are just trying to.
00:45:18.000But of course, the dating process is difficult.
00:45:21.000You know, it's like I would want my girlfriend to come visit the United States to see if she liked it before deciding to move.
00:45:27.000But really, the only option is to immigrate because if you do a tourist visa, they won't let her come because they'll presume immigrant intent.
00:45:37.000And so it's a really sticky sort of thing.
00:45:40.000And of course, the only reason I'm dating outside of America is because of the, some people call it the dating apocalypse of America, where it's like perfectly good guys are being.
00:45:51.000Like, rejected by women left and right.
00:45:54.000And it's like our only option is to date outside of America.
00:45:57.000So I'm just trying to live the American dream.
00:46:00.000And it's just, it's difficult with the immigration system.
00:47:15.000But we also have to set our immigration policies for the interests of the nation.
00:47:20.000And I don't think there's any proposal to entirely.
00:47:23.000No one's proposing that we get rid of the ability to marry foreigners or that you can get marriage visas for your spouse.
00:47:29.000But what we have talked about is we do, I think we need to curb, for example, chain migration.
00:47:35.000I don't think marrying one foreigner should give them the automatic right to bring in every member of their extended family because that's very abusable.
00:47:43.000You have to be careful with it because you don't want people committing fraud.
00:47:47.000And people will commit a lot of fraud in order to get into the United States.
00:50:04.000And it's similar for that for other things.
00:50:06.000We hear from businesses, obviously, where they say, oh, yeah, we want a secure border, we want to crack down, but it's tougher with labor costs.
00:50:15.000The roofing industry, in the home building industry, in the agricultural industry.
00:50:22.000And the truth is, we do have to bite the bullet on that because so much of what we've done has been short term thinking.
00:50:28.000It's been taking the thing that's easier right now for the next month, for the next year, when we need to do what's best for this country 50 years from now, 100 years from now.
00:50:38.000And that might require short term sacrifices.
00:50:40.000I would just encourage you to not despair against the larger goals and the larger vision.
00:50:47.000And it sounds like you're basically on board with that.
00:50:49.000It is having a personal impact on you, but you have to then put that in context of the larger goals that the Trump administration, the people that voted for the president in 2024, want to accomplish.
00:51:00.000And we do want to limit foreigners coming into our country.
00:51:04.000We just do because, listen, we're losing American culture.
00:51:08.000We're losing a lot of our norms, traditions.
00:51:11.000We're losing a lot of things we took for granted.
00:51:13.000And the country that we grew up in, we're watching it transform in ways we don't like and don't need and that aren't in the best interest of the country.
00:51:22.000Frustration and challenges from the larger goals.
00:51:24.000And just remember, if this is authentic, if your goals are true and real, and you can get a lawyer, I think you're still going to ultimately be successful.
00:51:32.000But again, yeah, it's going to cost you something, but not as much as you'd think.
00:52:01.000So, this is kind of similar to the last question that I asked.
00:52:04.000But obviously, there's been a lot of chaos with the daily news lately.
00:52:08.000And I feel like just the spirit of doomerism can kind of just run rampant.
00:52:14.000But since you guys are both on this show every day and pretty active on X, my question would be how do each of you stay grounded?
00:52:22.000And still maintain a semi positive view of the country and the world, especially when you guys are very actively reporting on the news every day.
00:52:33.000So, funny thing, I remember the first time I ever traveled alongside Charlie, this would have been in 2023, and he was about to sit back to take a nap.
00:52:45.000I can't even remember what we were discussing, but I asked him about some sort of bad news or something like that, and Charlie just told me, Blake, How you feel is a choice.
00:52:55.000I choose not to feel bad, and so I don't.
00:53:00.000And that's actually a remarkable testament to his talents that.
00:53:05.000I would tell people one of the best things about Charlie, he was so high agency.
00:53:08.000And what that means is your ability to create change in the world that you want to make something happen.
00:53:15.000And so you take the individual steps to put it into action, which kind of all of us can do, but some are just better at it.
00:53:23.000And Charlie was 99.9th percentile at that.
00:53:27.000And a big part of that is, yeah, he had the ability to create how he wanted to feel.
00:53:32.000And he knew being defeated, being downbeat, being negative was a hindrance to.
00:54:20.000Anyways, if you want to be a part of these conversations with us, we would love to invite you and have you join at members.charliekirk.com.
00:54:36.000My question for you shortly after Charlie was assassinated, we heard from the vice president, and then we heard again when you were with him in Georgia that we would see an effort from the administration to crack down on some of those dark money leftist groups, such as George Soros' Open Society Foundation or the Ford Foundation and all their little crony groups.
00:55:19.000You know, it's funny, Mick, just on that last note, I actually, when I got off stage with him, I was like, were you just like, you know, being nice?
00:55:25.000Like, do you like, and because I have a relationship with the vice president, if such, he would be like, yeah, you know, I was just trying to build you up or whatever.
00:55:45.000But I'm reminded of that final text message that Charlie sent to Stephen Miller, where he said, We have to dismantle these left wing groups and the funding mechanisms behind them.
00:55:53.000And I know that Stephen Miller takes that very, very personally.
00:55:57.000And that the fact that JD Vance brought it up without me urging or asking, Is a really good indication that it remains top of mind.
00:56:04.000And I will tell you that the Treasury Department, which I remember during my conversation with JD, I brought up, Scott Besson has been working on this.
00:56:13.000He has a whole team that's devoted to this.
00:56:35.000Recently, with what happened to Savannah Hernandez in Minneapolis.
00:56:38.000And then, honestly, that we talked about some of the violent threats that Erica Kirk was getting in the lead up to that University of Georgia event.
00:56:46.000Well, a lot of that sparked right after Savannah Hernandez.
00:56:49.000It like emboldened people to start making threats against Erica and the organization.
00:56:54.000So I am 100% on board with what you're saying.
00:56:57.000And I will tell you that they are working on it.
00:56:59.000Well, I want to flag specific examples.
00:57:01.000So late last year, so you might recall there was an attack on an ICE facility in Dallas.
00:57:07.000And That was organized and perpetrated by Antifa cells.
00:57:11.000And so, actually, late last year, for the first time, we got people who pleaded guilty in court to being members of an Antifa terror cell.
00:57:21.000And then just last month in March, we had eight more people convicted by a jury in Texas, again, for terrorism related offenses as part of an Antifa group.
00:57:31.000And it's the first time that's ever happened.
00:57:33.000We've gotten individuals before, but we've never had it just, oh, your Antifa group is a terror group.
00:57:39.000So, You'll sometimes hear people say they're doing nothing, nothing is happening.
00:57:45.000When the answer is sometimes it happens and people just don't want to believe it, they don't want to talk about it, it's easier to complain.
00:57:52.000But there are things like that happening.
00:57:54.000Unwinding a whole financial network is tougher, it takes longer to build that case.
00:57:59.000Big donor networks, of course, can pay for better lawyers, they can pay for better defense generally.
00:58:05.000But we are getting the reps out there of going after the activists who commit crimes, bringing them to court, getting convictions.
00:58:14.000And kind of going back to the question from Before, this is one of the reasons that I am positive.
00:58:19.000I don't black pill because give me four years of President Trump administration and the country will be an undoubtedly better place than four years of Kamala Harris.
00:58:28.000It's better for the country in every conceivable way.
00:58:30.000Yeah, you might have issues with what's happening in Iran or you might have issues with the foreign policy or not enough focus on domestic.
00:58:36.000Part of our job is to remind the administration on this show and other shows like it of what the base wants, what the activists want, what the core constituency of this president really wants.
00:59:12.000There are a lot of people who love her and pray for her and see how hard she is working, recently widowed with two toddlers in tow to keep her husband's legacy going.
00:59:27.000And I want to say very briefly when we get emails, for example, in our inbox, freedom at Charlie Kirk, and if there are messages to Erica of that nature, I screen cap those and I send them on to her immediately.
01:00:06.000And I guess my point is if that was Charlie's start and he could still build Turning Point USA after that, like, don't be an accelerationist.
01:01:37.000But I love your bigger picture point that Charlie got his start campaigning for another Kirk who was pretty moderate in a million ways and he built a juggernaut that changed America.