The Charlie Kirk Show - The Tell: Joe Biden's Incredible Vanishing Campaign Manager with Raheem Kassam and Kurt Schlichter

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00:01:38.000 Raheem, I really was moved by your tweet here.

00:01:41.000 So I'm going to name a list.

00:01:42.000 I'm going to go through a list of names and then let you riff.

00:01:45.000 Pat Cadell, Lee Atwater, James Carville, Karl Rove, David Pluff, David Axelrod, Steve Bannon.

00:01:54.000 All those people, what do they have in common?

00:01:56.000 They were, in some ways, the architects, the conductors of successful presidential campaigns that were then able to write books and go on tour and be considered to be thought leaders.

00:02:08.000 You made a very interesting observation, which is Joe Biden winning in 2020, being implemented, has no such people that take claim for him becoming president.

00:02:20.000 That's super bizarre.

00:02:21.000 I think back to Audacity to Win and David Axelrod.

00:02:25.000 In fact, it's the exact opposite.

00:02:26.000 They're almost repelled by his 2020 candidacy.

00:02:30.000 What's going on here?

00:02:31.000 Yeah, that's what I'd like to know.

00:02:33.000 I think, you know, a series of questions need to be answered here, which is, you know, the first one is who ran Joe Biden's campaign?

00:02:40.000 I mean, it seems to me like that would be the obvious question for most people who still have suspicions about what actually took place between all of the institutions, apparatus, and shenanigans in 2020 is who ran the campaign?

00:02:55.000 Because nobody seems to be putting their hand up and owning that, which is very strange when you think about it.

00:02:59.000 It's extremely strange when you think about the fact that we're sold this idea that Joe Biden won the most number of votes of any U.S. president ever in history, and it was the most amazing victory, even though he sat in a basement and spoke to crowds as large as eight throughout the entire campaign.

00:03:16.000 So who ran the campaign?

00:03:17.000 Who should be on the front cover of Time magazine? 0.68

00:03:20.000 Who should be getting the book deals?

00:03:21.000 Why haven't there been TED talks?

00:03:23.000 Why aren't there political parties around the world, around Europe, across Asia, across Africa, hiring this doyen, this genius who managed to get a man elected who couldn't string a sentence together? 1.00

00:03:34.000 I mean, you'd think, I mean, you know this industry as well as I do.

00:03:38.000 You'd think that that would be leading to some pretty massive consultancy contracts around the electoral world, would you not?

00:03:46.000 But, but it's now been years and that person has yet to emerge.

00:03:51.000 There is no genius behind that campaign.

00:03:54.000 There was no person behind it.

00:03:56.000 So what was really behind it?

00:03:57.000 Yeah, so I guess there's two explanations there.

00:03:59.000 The first is that there were so many people involved that were actually not part of the campaign, like Mark Elias and others, that it was basically an external fourth branch of government, big business, collusion enterprise, and Joe Biden just happened to be a recipient of the Politburo implementing him.

00:04:17.000 Or the second explanation, as far as my calculus goes, is that they did some really unethical things, probably illegal.

00:04:26.000 And no one wants to take credit for it.

00:04:29.000 Yeah, and I think that's the rub here, isn't it?

00:04:32.000 Is that even if, I mean, that Time magazine piece about the broader apparatus.

00:04:38.000 By Molly Ball, yes.

00:04:40.000 Yeah.

00:04:40.000 I mean, look, we told that story for months and months prior to the election that those things were going to happen with the Election Integrity Project and all of the things that were told to us by people who had studied where the money, where Mark Zuckerberg's money was going, all of that.

00:04:57.000 We knew, right?

00:04:58.000 And that piece, that Mollyball piece, was really just rubbing our noses in all of that.

00:05:03.000 But even if that's the case, right?

00:05:05.000 Even if you had all of those things and all of those players and all of those institutions come together, spend that money, and it was like, you say, a Polypuro exercise, there has to be somebody coordinating it, right? 0.50

00:05:17.000 Somewhere, somebody along the way knew what pieces were being put together, when they would drop, where they would drop, who was putting the money in, who was making the phone calls, who was sending the emails, who was monitoring state by state where this was going on.

00:05:30.000 A person exists, but like you say, Charlie, I suspect that person doesn't actually want the infamy associated with that.

00:05:38.000 Yeah, I think that there is some, there is intentional efforts of anonymity.

00:05:42.000 I mean, one of the best-selling books, and you can learn a lot from it, is the book Audacity to Win by David Plough.

00:05:48.000 It's an easy read, and it goes from David Plough coming up with the idea for Barack Hussein Obama to run for president at a chile announcement address.

00:05:57.000 It was like 14 degrees in Springfield, Illinois.

00:06:00.000 And from that point forward, he goes through how they were able to build a grassroots, I put in quotes, grassroots populist campaign.

00:06:07.000 But look, the 08 Obama campaign was remarkable.

00:06:10.000 We've never seen anything like it.

00:06:11.000 It was successful.

00:06:13.000 They were able to sweep the nation.

00:06:14.000 And I think Obama legitimately was able to excite groups of people that otherwise were not able to be involved in politics.

00:06:22.000 But now that we're looking back going into 2024, there is this massive gap missing where if you are a political historian or if you're just someone who's not necessarily ideological and you just enjoy history, who's going to write this book?

00:06:39.000 And the answer is that there's probably, and I don't think there's probably guilt, but there definitely is a fear that whomever will pop their head up very well might be exposed for either planning or being involved in a crime syndicate that implemented an incoherent person to become president of the United States.

00:06:59.000 Yeah, and I have a challenge for all the intrepid Washington reporters who obviously on a day-to-day basis clearly use their column inches to hold power to account and hold the feet to the fire of those who stalk the corridors of power in this city.

00:07:20.000 I have a challenge for all of them. 0.99

00:07:22.000 Write the damn book. 1.00

00:07:24.000 Find out who was behind it. 1.00

00:07:26.000 Exactly.

00:07:26.000 By the way, you'll make a ton of money.

00:07:28.000 I mean, you just want to talk about a business opportunity.

00:07:31.000 I thought they're all about making money in D.C. You can make a 250 grand in advance of I'm going to write the definitive Biden 2020 book.

00:07:39.000 We defeated Trump.

00:07:40.000 COVID lockdowns.

00:07:42.000 All this stuff happening.

00:07:43.000 I mean, it would be interesting.

00:07:44.000 No Netflix series, no Hulu series, no Amazon Plus series.

00:07:48.000 I mean, we have Amazon Plus series of every single gay story you could imagine, right?

00:07:53.000 gay girls, gay boys, trans boys, trans girls, you know, trans immigrants, queer, everything.

00:07:59.000 It's ignauseating.

00:08:00.000 We can't get a single piece of a book or a docudrama on the presidential year that all things being fair, it was actually a very interesting year to live through.

00:08:12.000 One of the most interesting elections, I think, ever, especially in modern American history.

00:08:19.000 But like you say, everyone would buy it.

00:08:21.000 The left would buy it.

00:08:22.000 The right would buy it.

00:08:23.000 Everyone would buy it.

00:08:24.000 Whoever wrote this book and managed to get to the bottom of who this person is that coordinated the Biden campaign would be a household name overnight.

00:08:35.000 Every house in America would have a copy of this book, but nobody seems to want to do any digging.

00:08:39.000 Nobody with any access into Biden world, I should say specifically, wants to do any digging.

00:08:44.000 And I understand they would, you know, the invites would stop and the hit pieces would start and all of that.

00:08:50.000 But surely there's got to be somebody out there in DC world, perhaps at the end of their journalistic careers, that wants to take a shot at one of the biggest stories that could possibly occur in your politics, which is that we have seen a political campaign run by a ghost, effectively.

00:09:07.000 It's 2023 now.

00:09:09.000 This thing is three years old and we still have absolutely zero idea of who the great genius was that delivered more votes in American history than has ever been seen before.

00:09:18.000 For the sake of history, at least, write the book.

00:09:21.000 What if the reason there is a blackout, what if the reason they have refused to write the book is they want to do it again?

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00:11:07.000 Raheem, do they want to do it again?

00:11:10.000 They don't have a choice now.

00:11:11.000 You know, they've created this image as far as a lot of their own supporters are concerned that they can do this.

00:11:18.000 So now why shouldn't they do it, right?

00:11:20.000 Why should a Democratic nominee for president have to actually go out there and meet the yucky people, meet yucky real people and campaign for their vote?

00:11:29.000 No, that won't be happening.

00:11:31.000 They will run this.

00:11:32.000 They will attempt to run this very same type of campaign again.

00:11:36.000 And that might be one of the main reasons why they're not writing the book.

00:11:41.000 I think it's really interesting.

00:11:42.000 Okay, shifting gears for a second.

00:11:44.000 How should we think about the Pence discovery of documents?

00:11:47.000 We actually haven't talked about this yet today.

00:11:49.000 It was the breaking news yesterday.

00:11:51.000 What's your take on this?

00:11:54.000 Yeah, I did a short podcast on my sub stack.

00:11:58.000 There's my little plug for that yesterday when this happened.

00:12:02.000 Not least because, of course, Mike Pence had already gone out there and said, no, I would never do this.

00:12:06.000 I've never done this.

00:12:08.000 And then sure enough, it transpires that he had.

00:12:10.000 And that's interesting enough in and of itself.

00:12:12.000 I'm not sure why you would voluntarily offer that information if it were false or you knew in some way that it were false.

00:12:19.000 So odd as far as that's concerned.

00:12:21.000 But the bigger picture about all of this is, and you mentioned the Politburo earlier, and I think that's a really great word to use as far as the Washington, D.C. set is concerned.

00:12:30.000 Because what are they really trying to do here, vis-a-vis declassification?

00:12:35.000 They're trying to make it seem, and you've already seen the op-eds, The Guardian, The New York Times.

00:12:39.000 I've read one in the Boston Globe as well yesterday, that the declassification process is so dated and we shouldn't have to rely on these old men to not steal documents away from whichever government department or whatever part of Congress that they had ever worked in.

00:12:55.000 And that everything is basically too old and white and pale and stale.

00:12:58.000 And what we really need is a committee-driven approach to this, right?

00:13:03.000 Which they mean a Politburo-driven approach to this.

00:13:05.000 The people like Alexander Vinman should really be in charge of this.

00:13:09.000 The national security apparatus in DC should decide what gets declassified.

00:13:14.000 Well, what happens, Charlie, if the national security apparatus is in charge of releasing information pertaining to the national security apparatus?

00:13:23.000 Well, they hide their malfeasance.

00:13:25.000 That's what happens.

00:13:26.000 I think that's the broader brushstroke here, that they are trying to subsume power away from the commander-in-chief.

00:13:34.000 So let's say Donald Trump becomes president again, or whoever becomes president.

00:13:38.000 They want to make it so that a president can't declassify.

00:13:43.000 Instead, they have to go through committees and they won't declassify anything.

00:13:48.000 In fact, I believe Donald Trump should have declassified a lot more. 0.57

00:13:51.000 I think he should have just went nuts on the way out.

00:13:53.000 He did some.

00:13:54.000 I wish I would have wanted to see the JFK files.

00:13:56.000 I wanted to see a lot more.

00:13:58.000 But he has that power and was stopped, obviously, by the inner workings of the government.

00:14:03.000 However, to go a level deeper, what you're trying to say, though, is they want to stop that power altogether.

00:14:09.000 They want it to be a committee of bureaucrats, quote-unquote, experts that no one knows that actually control the declassification process.

00:14:17.000 Yes, the people who write the anonymous letters when they're serving in governments like administrations like Trump's.

00:14:24.000 Think about this.

00:14:25.000 I mean, just think about the fact pattern here as it has happened.

00:14:29.000 When they raided Mar-a-Lago, what was the response?

00:14:33.000 What was the popular and populist response?

00:14:35.000 Well, it was, well, fine.

00:14:37.000 You want to behave like that. 0.59

00:14:38.000 We're going to declassify everything.

00:14:40.000 Let the American public see exactly what you're trying to hide from them.

00:14:43.000 And so what is their response to that is, oh, hold on, wait a minute.

00:14:46.000 We can't allow these people who may even get back in next time, Perish the Thor, declassification powers.

00:14:52.000 We have to do something to water that down.

00:14:54.000 We have to do something to dilute that process.

00:14:57.000 And so, you know, unconstitutional though it may be, it has never been beyond them to reach beyond the Constitution.

00:15:03.000 It has never been beyond them to not tremble on the Constitution.

00:15:06.000 And we will see in the next couple of days, weeks, months, whatever, there will be op-eds all over the place.

00:15:11.000 And people on Capitol Hill will start talking about, well, of course, you know, it'll be a randomized committee and it will rotate every two years.

00:15:17.000 And that will create the basis for what gets declassified or not.

00:15:20.000 And the president can still make his recommendations over what gets declassified, but it is this kind of jury of the national security apparatus that will really have the final say.

00:15:30.000 That's bad.

00:15:31.000 That will lead to them covering up their own mistakes.

00:15:34.000 You won't learn the real truth about things that happen in Afghanistan, where your money goes, what's going on in Ukraine, all of that if they get to cover their own tracks.

00:15:42.000 Be very careful where this goes.

00:15:44.000 It'll be a deep state insurance policy is what they're going to try to create.

00:15:48.000 Rahim, great commentary.

00:15:50.000 Thank you so much.

00:15:51.000 Thanks for having me.

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00:15:59.000 I appreciate it.

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00:17:08.000 Joining us now is Kurt Schlichter.

00:17:09.000 Kurt, I'm going to see you later this week.

00:17:11.000 I am going to Dana Point, California, kicking and screaming, but I will be there.

00:17:17.000 And I say that half sarcastically because going to the RNC meeting, not exactly where I want to spend my time, but I do so out of duty to our audience and hopefully to the country.

00:17:27.000 But Dana Point, if you got it, I will say, I'm glad it's not in, let's just say, Buffalo, New York.

00:17:34.000 Love Buffalo, New York, not exactly as nice as Dana Point right now, but it would make more sense.

00:17:39.000 I don't know if they were in a battleground state, separate issue.

00:17:41.000 But I'm going to see you there.

00:17:42.000 I'm going to be at the RNC meeting.

00:17:44.000 I'm going to be doing whatever I possibly can where I can be helpful to the cause of trying to change RNC leadership, whether it be Mike Lindell or Harmeet Dylan, close with both of them.

00:17:54.000 You're going to be there as well, Kurt, if I understand.

00:17:57.000 Walk us through the state of the RNC race.

00:18:00.000 Well, look, I'm going to head down there tonight.

00:18:04.000 It's at the Waldorf Astoria, which kind of gives you the, you know, just the thought of the Republicans meeting at the Waldorf Astoria after the semi-disastrous November election.

00:18:16.000 You know, where would they meet if they had done well for Psy?

00:18:22.000 You know, I, you know, I hear about this obscure resort in southern Utah.

00:18:27.000 I think it's called the Amand Geary, where it's $17,000 a night.

00:18:31.000 Yeah.

00:18:32.000 Maybe that would be in the cards.

00:18:34.000 Yeah, I just, you know, it's, we need a change, Charlie.

00:18:40.000 What we're doing isn't working.

00:18:42.000 Rona McDaniel, and she may be a very nice person.

00:18:45.000 I don't know her, and I don't care.

00:18:48.000 All right.

00:18:48.000 You got to, sometimes you got to channel Tommy Lee Jones and the fugitive.

00:18:51.000 I'm not here to make friends.

00:18:53.000 I'm here to win. 1.00

00:18:54.000 She has a proven track record failing. 1.00

00:18:56.000 She's at 0-5 on federal election cycles, two of those being Georgia runoffs.

00:19:03.000 She's apparently learned nothing.

00:19:06.000 She's making no case for herself except this vague idea of unity, which I'm all for.

00:19:12.000 We should unify around Harmee Dylan because Harmee Dylan has a vision of the future that involves reforming the RNC to make it lean, mean, efficient, and a winning machine again.

00:19:25.000 It's going to be a tough race.

00:19:26.000 There are 168 electors, three per state or territory, and they're going to pick Friday morning.

00:19:34.000 And we will see who they choose.

00:19:37.000 The fact is, when Rona began, no one was opposing her.

00:19:43.000 And a lot of people said, well, yeah, I guess I'll support her.

00:19:46.000 I mean, she's the only one running.

00:19:48.000 And then Harmeet jumped in and Mike Lindell jumped in.

00:19:52.000 And people have said, okay, now the situation's changed and so is my vote.

00:19:59.000 It's close and it's going to be close.

00:20:01.000 It's going to be a squeaker for whoever.

00:20:03.000 I don't think anybody's going to win it running away.

00:20:06.000 But we have a real chance to put in a candidate who, you know, frankly has not failed.

00:20:14.000 Frankly, someone who has a vision in the future, who will audit the RNC, who will corral the consultant class, which I think is very, very important.

00:20:23.000 And that's one of the reasons they're fighting so hard.

00:20:25.000 There are a lot of people who think their rice bowl is going to get kicked over.

00:20:28.000 And, you know, they might be right.

00:20:32.000 As for the legal issues, the law fair, which I saw firsthand working in Las Vegas, and I saw the RNC was nearly AWOL, absent without leave.

00:20:46.000 Nobody knows the legal aspects better than Harmeed.

00:20:50.000 I mean, look, I'm a really good lawyer.

00:20:52.000 I'm not modest because you shouldn't be modest as a lawyer.

00:20:56.000 But I refer cases to Harmeet because she's very, very good and she knows this stuff.

00:21:03.000 And what's important is she's a strategic thinker.

00:21:05.000 She's not thinking about the obstacle right in front of her.

00:21:08.000 She's thinking a couple terrain features ahead about the battle we're going to fight down the road.

00:21:13.000 And that's really what we need. 0.89

00:21:16.000 Rona is a good fundraiser. 1.00

00:21:19.000 She can go get rich people, write checks. 1.00

00:21:22.000 But you know what? 1.00

00:21:23.000 Rich people are going to write checks anyway.

00:21:25.000 What we need are regular folks kicking in their 25 bucks, 100 bucks, and getting bombarded by text messages telling you you're letting down the party because you haven't chipped in yet.

00:21:39.000 That's just not going to do it.

00:21:41.000 The small donor base is, you know, it's pretty desolate right now.

00:21:45.000 And I think Harmeed will revitalize that because electing Harmeet shows that the Republican National Committee understands it's been on the wrong path and needs to make a change.

00:21:55.000 So that's kind of where we're at.

00:21:57.000 Our audience refuses to give money to the RNC.

00:21:59.000 Thousands and thousands of emails.

00:22:01.000 And I believe the small dollar donation strategy has been disrespectful at best and flat out insulting at an even fair analysis of misusing and abusing people on fixed social security and income, acting as if they're quasi.

00:22:15.000 And one of them was almost called them a traitor.

00:22:18.000 I'm not kidding.

00:22:18.000 There was an email solicitation that said, what are you, a traitor?

00:22:22.000 Have you turned your back on Trump? 0.86

00:22:23.000 It's so aggressive.

00:22:24.000 It's so unnecessary.

00:22:26.000 And it's so, it's pedantic in a way that is insulting to the actual base of the party.

00:22:32.000 The RNC's donor base is evaporating.

00:22:34.000 And I think for good reason, you do need to have a good donor base.

00:22:37.000 You need to have a functioning Republican Party.

00:22:39.000 That's why we need to make a change.

00:22:40.000 You need that.

00:22:41.000 But just not only that, but Kurt, can you help me understand?

00:22:45.000 And I'm going to be there.

00:22:46.000 You're going to be there.

00:22:48.000 And I just want everyone to understand I'm going to be, we are going to be your voice there because a lot of you say, Charlie, how do I help?

00:22:54.000 You could still email your members.

00:22:55.000 In fact, the emails you send right now matter more because they're all together.

00:23:00.000 And if their phone just starts lighting up while they're in these meetings, it's going to, it's all of a sudden they're going to turn like, hey, are you getting these emails too?

00:23:06.000 Are you getting these emails?

00:23:07.000 They're all in a very clustered environment.

00:23:09.000 So I encourage you to email your committeeman, committeewoman, or state party chair.

00:23:14.000 You can find that information at hireharmeet.com.

00:23:17.000 That's hire like you're hiring somebody, harmeet.com.

00:23:20.000 It's all there.

00:23:21.000 Be respectful, be direct, be polite, but also be honest about what you think the RNC is doing or not doing.

00:23:27.000 But Kurt, help me understand.

00:23:28.000 We took a poll, Turning Point Action took a poll of all of our 11,000 plus people that came to AmericaFest, and 98% of them wanted change in the RNC leadership.

00:23:37.000 Trafalgar did a poll.

00:23:38.000 92% wanted a change.

00:23:40.000 Why is this even close?

00:23:42.000 Look, I think a lot of the people who are on the committees didn't really expect it to be so, you know, to be a vigorous challenge.

00:23:52.000 And a lot of them have worked their way up through the party.

00:23:54.000 It's kind of a reward.

00:23:56.000 I mean, you get to go to, you know, you get to go to Orange County and hang out at Waldorf Astoria.

00:24:00.000 That's pretty fun.

00:24:02.000 But the problem is you do have to do some work.

00:24:05.000 And a lot of these people didn't really expect it.

00:24:09.000 And a lot of people there, well, not a lot, but some of them think they know better than the base. 1.00

00:24:16.000 You know, they're dumb. 1.00

00:24:17.000 They don't really know what they're doing. 1.00

00:24:19.000 You know, they just need to make the calls and knock on the doors and write the checks when we ask, but we'll do the thinking for them.

00:24:26.000 Well, we've seen how well that works.

00:24:29.000 You know, when you're in a leadership role and I've, you know, I've commanded in the military and led in other situations, and I know you're a leader too.

00:24:38.000 You're really a servant.

00:24:40.000 You're someone who has to give of yourself to make sure that the people that you're honored to lead are taken care of and their needs are met.

00:24:48.000 And I think a lot of our RNC committee members are really feeling that now.

00:24:56.000 And they're going to have to think and say, you know, maybe it's disruptive.

00:24:59.000 Maybe Rona's personal friend of mine.

00:25:02.000 But I've got to do what's right for the organization.

00:25:05.000 Look, Rona's going to be fine.

00:25:07.000 Okay. 0.80

00:25:07.000 And there's plenty of roles for her out there of things that she can do. 0.80

00:25:11.000 But we've seen that leading this organization is not one.

00:25:14.000 She's had three chances.

00:25:15.000 And I, and Charlie, it's so hard for someone like me.

00:25:19.000 And I, my, my job as a trial lawyer is to persuade normal people.

00:25:24.000 Yes.

00:25:24.000 And you're good at it.

00:25:25.000 Yeah.

00:25:26.000 I'm very good.

00:25:27.000 I mean, that thing up, there's a $3 million jury verdict.

00:25:32.000 I'm pretty good at it.

00:25:33.000 But it's very hard talking to people and trying to explain to them why the rules that apply to them don't apply to other people.

00:25:44.000 For instance, if you're out in a job and you screw up five times in a row, okay, you're probably not going to get a sixth chance.

00:25:54.000 But it's not just a job, though, Kurt.

00:25:56.000 This is, I mean, and you said this perfectly, but you said in World War II, we would cycle through generals.

00:26:00.000 It wasn't personal, right?

00:26:02.000 If you cannot, if you can't advance, if you can't make the enemy line go 60 miles to the east every 90 days, you're going to go run a recruitment center in Birmingham, Alabama.

00:26:12.000 You'll still get a check.

00:26:13.000 You'll get a pension, but you're done, man. 0.51

00:26:16.000 Like you're no longer going to be tasked with, you know, taking back Belgium.

00:26:22.000 Exactly.

00:26:23.000 Everybody is not a perfect fit for every job. 1.00

00:26:27.000 There is plenty of great things that Rona McDaniel can do. 1.00

00:26:31.000 We've just seen that she can't really do this.

00:26:34.000 And she's had three chances. 0.60

00:26:36.000 She's asking for a fourth.

00:26:37.000 And we have to be strong enough to say, no, thank you for your service.

00:26:41.000 We're going to put you on another task.

00:26:43.000 She's got plenty to contribute.

00:26:44.000 This is not about her being a bad person.

00:26:47.000 This is about finding the right person at the right time to do the right things to get the right results.

00:26:53.000 Everybody in the audience, right now it matters more than any other time.

00:26:56.000 I've asked you to do this.

00:26:57.000 They are all right now.

00:26:58.000 The meetings have started.

00:26:59.000 The voting has not.

00:27:00.000 The voting is not till Friday.

00:27:02.000 But right now is where you can write your letter, be respectful, be polite, be direct and be honest.

00:27:07.000 Hireharmeat.com, H-I-R-E-HarMeet.com.

00:27:11.000 If you live in Idaho, North Dakota, Kansas, Texas, Florida, whatever, find them and say, hey, dear Sally Sue Marie, I want to change in RNC leadership.

00:27:20.000 Please vote accordingly, especially if you are from that state.

00:27:24.000 Okay.

00:27:24.000 Yes.

00:27:24.000 Hireharmeat.com, H-I-R-E-HarMeet.com.

00:27:28.000 Be honest and be direct and be polite.

00:27:30.000 So, Kurt, this is going to come down to really thin margins on Friday.

00:27:36.000 It's a secret ballot.

00:27:37.000 They're not live streaming any of their meeting.

00:27:39.000 So they're at a five-star resort, Waldorf Astoria and Dana Point, not live streaming the meeting, trying to elect somebody who's failed to a fourth term.

00:27:48.000 Probably not a recipe to build trust for millions of people that need to support the party.

00:27:54.000 No, no, Charlie, if you sat down and tried to come up with a plan that was designed to turn people off most effectively, many of these tactics, techniques, and procedures would be in effect.

00:28:08.000 I think it was kind of a surprise to them.

00:28:10.000 I think they kind of thought, well, we'll just, you know, it'll just be Rana again, and nobody, and there isn't going to be any change.

00:28:17.000 And then the change kind of came from the grassroots.

00:28:20.000 And then Mike Lindell and Harmee Dylan, and Harmeet's the one I support, said, no, no, no.

00:28:29.000 I'd like to make a challenge here.

00:28:31.000 And no one really expected it.

00:28:33.000 It was kind of a gentleman's club and gentlewoman's club.

00:28:37.000 And now it got now, now it's a real, I don't want to say fight.

00:28:43.000 It's a competition.

00:28:45.000 And people are making tough arguments.

00:28:47.000 They're critiquing Ronna McDowell.

00:28:49.000 And a lot of these people are not used to being critiqued.

00:28:52.000 A lot of these people aren't used to the base coming up and saying, you just haven't performed adequately.

00:28:58.000 You need to go.

00:28:59.000 They're a little offended by it.

00:29:02.000 But it's exactly what we need.

00:29:04.000 You know, you can't be arrogant and condescending to the people you want to do things for you.

00:29:12.000 I'm a trial lawyer. 1.00

00:29:13.000 I can't walk up to a jury and say, hey, idiots, I'll tell you what to do. 1.00

00:29:17.000 You just sit here and at the end, I'll tell you how to vote. 1.00

00:29:21.000 Not going to work.

00:29:22.000 I'd be driving a 1992 Hugo.

00:29:28.000 And the same thing here.

00:29:29.000 We want these people to go knock on doors for us, Charlie.

00:29:32.000 We want them to make phone calls.

00:29:33.000 We want them to write those small checks.

00:29:37.000 Why would they when their viewers are completely rejected?

00:29:42.000 Look, and I'll say this: I can't, in good faith, if Rona's elected to a fourth term, tell our audience to give money, energy, time, or resources to the RNC.

00:29:50.000 I'm going to tell them to go to other means.

00:29:52.000 And that actually is not a good thing.

00:29:54.000 I want the RNC to be a powerful machine.

00:29:57.000 I want it to be bulletproof because it can do things that 501c4s and super PACs can't do.

00:30:02.000 We've gone into this in a great detail.

00:30:04.000 It's not worth doing again.

00:30:05.000 But, Kurt, in closing here, I want to re-emphasize the power of the audience.

00:30:09.000 I want this to be a participant 48 hours.

00:30:11.000 Everybody, we're 48 hours out.

00:30:13.000 The fact that you have a voice as a person is infuriating some of the clubby atmosphere at the RNC.

00:30:19.000 They're saying, who are these people? 0.94

00:30:21.000 They're smelly. 0.98

00:30:21.000 They're yucky, literally. 0.98

00:30:23.000 You know, why are we listening to them?

00:30:25.000 We are elite.

00:30:26.000 We're a part of the club.

00:30:27.000 They aren't.

00:30:28.000 However, it is changing the dynamics.

00:30:30.000 It is effective because for the first time ever, the RNC is now being put on notice of, hey, we actually are in charge and you guys, we put you here.

00:30:40.000 One minute remaining, Kurt.

00:30:42.000 Well, look, it's kind of like Caddyshack.

00:30:44.000 You got the Al Cervix cruising into Bushwood Country Club, and then you've got the Judge Smales crew. 0.95

00:30:50.000 But you got to understand, most of these 168 aren't snobs and they aren't jerks. 0.96

00:30:55.000 There are a few who are. 0.76

00:30:57.000 There are some, to be clear.

00:30:59.000 There definitely are some, but keep going.

00:31:01.000 There's some, but not most of them.

00:31:02.000 And a lot of them were kind of surprised to see the outcry and then they listened.

00:31:07.000 And those people are coming over to Harmeet every day.

00:31:11.000 We're getting more and more votes for her.

00:31:14.000 People saying, you know, I listened to what my people had to say.

00:31:16.000 I looked at the facts.

00:31:18.000 I'm going to have, I'm going to support you.

00:31:21.000 No offense to Rana.

00:31:22.000 I don't hate Rana.

00:31:23.000 It's just, it's time for a change.

00:31:25.000 It's time for you. 0.99

00:31:26.000 Look, we fire losers when your civilization is falling apart. 0.99

00:31:29.000 This is not hard. 1.00

00:31:30.000 Don't overthink it.

00:31:30.000 Kurt, we're out of time.

00:31:31.000 I'll see you in Dana Point.

00:31:32.000 God bless you, man.

00:31:33.000 Thank you.

00:31:34.000 Someone said, Kathy, I just went to, Kathy said, Charlie, I went to hirehearmeat.com, found my RNC contacts quickly within minutes.

00:31:40.000 I emailed all three, keep spreading the word.

00:31:41.000 Hireharmeat.com.

00:31:43.000 Maybe you support Mike Lindell, whatever.

00:31:44.000 It's just a resource.

00:31:45.000 H-I-R-E-HarMeat.com.

00:31:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:49.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:31:52.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

00:31:58.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

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