00:00:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:54.000I think you would be excellent, and you've been terrific.
00:01:56.000I wish you would have become whip instead of Emmer, who is just inexcusable.
00:02:00.000However, I want to ask you about this omnibus bill.
00:02:03.000I mean, it is without question one of the most insulting pieces of legislation to the American citizen and the grassroots that I've seen in quite some time.
00:02:13.000And it looks to, if in its current kind of form, it seems that it will authorize nine months of spending all the way to September, basically robbing your term in the House majority.
00:02:28.000What is your take on this omnibus bill?
00:02:30.000Yeah, what's the point of having a Republican majority if Republicans are going to go along with a massive, bloated omnibus spending bill that takes celebrity away from the majority?
00:02:41.000So it's a, I'll be, I'll do everything I can next week when it comes to the floor to oppose it.
00:02:47.000And keep in mind, the Democrats haven't spoken to House Republicans at all.
00:02:51.000We've had zero input into the omnibus.
00:02:54.000I know that Senate Republicans are negotiating with Senate Democrats on their side.
00:02:58.000The Republicans in the House have been completely cut out of this process.
00:03:02.000That's why we should all oppose it just for that reason alone.
00:03:05.000Pass a two-week CR that pushes this into the new majority that recognizes the will of the American voters who gave us a chance to have the majority to begin with.
00:03:16.000Otherwise, you're just betraying those voters.
00:03:18.000So, I mean, what is the calculus, though, for some of these Republicans?
00:03:22.000I don't think the House has many Republicans that are going to vote for this.
00:03:24.000Maybe Liz Cheney kind of be her swan song.
00:03:27.000But in the Senate, this is being brokered by Senator Shelby, who will retire in a couple years.
00:03:34.000You know, in principle, it's an interesting topic to think about.
00:03:37.000And I'm not trying to put you on the spot on this.
00:03:39.000In principle, I am a fan of term limits.
00:03:42.000But the only issue with term limits or people retiring is Shelby doesn't care.
00:03:49.000There's nothing you could say to him that will influence him at all whatsoever.
00:03:53.000He just wants a job at some Birmingham lobby firm.
00:03:57.000Yeah, I'm sure I think he's retiring in a couple of weeks, right?
00:04:01.000And he's done at the end of this Congress.
00:04:04.000And keep in mind, too, you know, Republicans have allowed for earmarks to come back.
00:04:10.000And there are a lot of earmarks in this omnibus bill.
00:04:13.000So when you see Republicans voting for it, you might scratch your head and begin to wonder, did they get an earmark into the bill as a reward for their vote?
00:04:33.000At the end of the day, those who have Republicans who vote for it are, again, they're betraying the voters who gave us the majority so that we could do something about reckless spending, about bloated federal government.
00:04:44.000Charlie, but this is why a minute ago, yes, both at the Senate race, this is one of the reasons that if I run for the Senate, that I want to get there to stop the madness, do something about the national debt and spending and shake it up over there a little bit so they begin to recognize that when they go along with these omnibuses and these massive spending bills, they're directly responsible for a $32 trillion national debt.
00:05:39.000Like, go be some geriatric lobbyist for some whiskey company or for Louisville slugger.
00:05:45.000Like, this is an outrage that our country's falling apart.
00:05:48.000And I got to worry about McConnell's Christmas plans.
00:05:51.000Yeah, I don't mind coming back next week at all to vote.
00:05:54.000And I'll be voting no on the omnibus, but let's focus on the issues that the American people sent us here to focus on securing the border, reining in reckless spending, holding China accountable.
00:06:12.000When we get the gavels and take the majority on January 3rd, if we do this kind of stuff, we're not going to have this majority for very long.
00:06:21.000We're going to lose the majority after two years because our voters will completely give up on us.
00:06:25.000But if we lead and focus on issues that matter and rein in federal spending and block massive omnibus spending type bills, then I think we'll grow our majority and we'll win the White House in the process too.
00:06:37.000So, I mean, let's talk about the new Congress.
00:06:40.000There is a debate over the new speaker of the House.
00:06:44.000A fear that I have, Jack Pasobic has, and Tyler has, is the current lack of strategy by some of the more rebellious minds, which, by the way, I fully support rebellion against leadership.
00:06:58.000But I don't like kamikaze missions that will result in kind of bedlam and chaos that will give the Democrats or the Unit Party a potential speaker.
00:07:08.000How should we think about the January 3rd vote?
00:07:33.000There's debates over the motion to vacate and some of the amendment processes, the makeup of the rules committee.
00:07:42.000There should be more conservative voices on the rules committee, more conservative chairmen and chairwomen of the committees.
00:07:49.000All of those discussions have led to a healthy outcome that's good for rank and file members in the House of Representatives.
00:07:58.000Where this goes wrong is by the focus on the January 3rd vote, potentially sabotaging Leader McCarthy's ability to become the Speaker of the House.
00:08:09.000If you're going to do that, what's your alternative?
00:08:11.000And that's what these holdouts, they haven't given us a better alternative to a Speaker McCarthy.
00:08:20.000So that's one of the problems that I have.
00:08:23.000In fact, if this all at the end of the day leads to a continuation of Speaker Pelosi or a, God forbid, a Speaker Liz Channing type figure that House moderates and Democrats negotiate, then these holdouts have completely, again, betrayed the voters that gave us the chance to be in the majority in the first place.
00:08:44.000So on top of that, Charlie, I know you understand this.
00:08:47.000Every day that we're focused on preventing Kevin McCarthy from becoming the Speaker is a day that we lose preparing to hit the ground running and advancing our agenda when we get the majority back on Jan 3rd.
00:09:05.000If this takes even more time than after the speaker vote, it's going to take weeks to populate the committees, choose the chairman, pass our first 100-day of legislative agenda.
00:09:19.000All of that's being held up in the process.
00:09:22.000Yeah, when I hear from people who I have a long relationship with Matt Gates and I have a lot of respect for him, when he says, well, we're just going to have to let it take some time and we'll figure it out.
00:09:32.000That seems like an entrance into a risk environment that I'm not exactly ready to entertain given a four-seat majority.
00:09:40.000So I think the strategy to get concessions has been great.
00:09:44.000To change the rules and have the most conservative Congress in American history, let's do it.
00:09:49.000But let's not lose the majority because we hope we can find a leader.
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00:11:30.000I mean, very simply, this is the fact, which is that we have a we could have done a lot with a lot of this money to win elections.
00:11:40.000At the end of the day, we have to look at this very, very black and white, which is what is the role of the institutions that we finance and that we participate in.
00:11:50.000At the end of the day, I'll tell you this.
00:11:51.000And again, I think I mentioned this to you, Charlie.
00:12:56.000And so last year, we raised this the last reported figure, and this one will be even better this year, praise God, $55.2 million in revenue, and we spent $3.1 million.
00:14:12.000I ran it for a second or a staff every day or a staff training.
00:14:16.000We go to Airbnb instead of going to the Ritz-Carlton.
00:14:19.000But I mean, I'm saying we could do this at a much more cost-effective hotel, get the same effect.
00:14:26.000We could actually do more than what I think we're doing right now with involving the grassroots, listening to people who actually register voters.
00:15:01.000What we need is a winning message moving forward, managing our resources as effectively as possible, and then using the resources that we're entrusted with to win to win races.
00:15:11.000So the way the federal election code is written, if Tyler Jack and I said, you know what?
00:15:16.000We don't like the Republican Party and we start the Tyler Jack-Charlie super PAC.
00:15:20.000We're not allowed to coordinate with campaigns.
00:15:41.000So therefore, the RNC can do things that no one else can do, but it also can't raise as much money as Super PAC.
00:15:48.000Those are two reasons why this spending needs to be under an even more intense microscope, right, Tyler?
00:15:53.000Yeah, I mean, again, this comes back to there's some spending that's in here that was reported last night, and I was, I was surprised by it.
00:16:23.000We got to give a huge, I'm sure you did earlier, but huge shout out to Jennifer Van Law for just doing the yeoman's work on this, putting in, and I think she tweeted something.
00:16:32.000She sent me a message like nights after night, just digging through these files to put this all together.
00:16:38.000And Charlie, when you sent me the next, I got it from you earlier.
00:16:42.000And then I think producer Andrew had sent around the same time.
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00:18:18.000Jack, what other stories you're covering?
00:18:21.000You had an interesting story you said you covered on Human Events Daily today.
00:18:24.000Look, there is this huge leaked cable that has come out of the Pentagon under the Biden administration that it sounds like something you hear out of the Bush administration, by the way.
00:18:36.000I almost said Bush there for a second because it's talking about the fact that, you know, Charlie, you remember that you were a little less than happy with me earlier this year when I went to Ukraine and didn't tell anyone.
00:18:49.000But I got back and one of the things that we uncovered while on the ground there were black market deals for the arms that like we basically met somebody who was selling them and was telling us how he did it and was talking to people on WhatsApp and Pfizer and Telegram.
00:19:08.000Well, it's like, I mean, not his level, right?
00:19:11.000But, you know, like the, like the, like Victor Boot Jr. maybe.
00:19:14.000And that he, you know, like Victor Boot's Serbian nephew or something.
00:19:20.000And basically this idea there's this huge market for black market AR-15s now.
00:19:26.000And the cable that came out just recently, and NBC News is reporting this very quietly, that the Pentagon realizes it, that they have no clue what's going on with this, with these sales, with these shipments, the same way that, and then to your point, the same way that I'm sure Victor Boot knows about it, and he's going to be getting in on this action, and he's definitely going to be going down to Afghanistan with the billions that we left behind there.
00:19:49.000And now the Pentagon's response, again, NBC News.
00:19:54.000Well, the way to deal with this, it's simple, Charlie.
00:19:56.000We're just going to send more active duty U.S. troops on the ground in Ukraine.
00:20:03.000And they have a new memo talking about this, where it's going to be an increase in the number of U.S.
00:20:08.000And remember, just yesterday, the Royal Marines, it came out that are conducting covert operations in Ukraine.
00:20:13.000And they say, oh, but it totally stopped when the Russians invaded.
00:20:16.000We're definitely not conducting covert operations now.
00:20:18.000Sure, I'm sure we can trust you guys on that.
00:20:24.000And the last line of this memo, it says, not only to track the weapons, but also to ensure that the Ukrainian military is using the weapons properly.
00:20:38.000Charlie, this is textbook mission creep.
00:20:40.000It's also the exact same playbook that we saw in Iraq.
00:21:04.000The United States is today right now in a proxy war with Russia.
00:21:08.000What happens if you get to the point where it's a couple of U.S. advisors that press the button that fires the Patriot missile or the drone, whatever it is, and then Russians are killed by it on the ground in an active conflict?
00:21:20.000I mean, I actually think Russia doesn't have an appetite to go to war with us.
00:21:23.000I think they'd be kind of like, okay, stop it.
00:21:37.000This is where, see, this is the problem, though, that gets you into a situation where then what happens if Putin comes up and Tyler, you know about this that someone served on a religious experience in Russia.
00:21:54.000What happens when one of the hardliners in Russia says, hey, these Americans just took out our blessed soldiers and this guy Putin won't even do anything about it.
00:22:03.000Now they moved to get him out of office.
00:22:04.000Now you've got a hardliner in that says we are going to attack America because we need to respond for the like you can see the permutations were of where this goes.
00:22:12.000I actually view Putin the same way I view Lenin in Russian history.
00:22:16.000Which he was this transformative leader.
00:22:55.000When they have a fight over who becomes the next leader, do you think Russians are going to be more likely to be like, we want all the brave parts of Putin, but we want to attack people?
00:23:04.000Or do we want to be like this like you'll get a guy who's serving right now, probably in the current conflict that comes up and says, I delivered for the motherland in battle and now I will deliver in the Kremlin.
00:23:25.000And look, no matter what that turns into, whether it's, you know, which is what, and I want to be very clear, we're saying we, this is what we don't want.
00:23:32.000We very much do not want these things to happen.
00:23:34.000I mean, to Charlie's point, I, as a student of Russian history and of current, of current mother, you know, present-day Russia, I don't think that Putin wants to go to a world war.
00:23:45.000But what I do believe is this: is that, you know, our involvement, over-involvement with that could end in harming people, the people of Poland.
00:23:58.000I have Pasobiks that live in Poland right now in our ancestral village right on the border with Ukraine that would immediately be in harm's way.
00:24:07.000And then you have the people of Central Asia.
00:24:36.000They're under the shadow of Russia because they don't want to get destroyed by also other central Turks and by the Turks or the Azerbaijanis or the Iranians or anyone else, right?
00:24:46.000Like, so there's this complex misunderstanding that normal Americans don't have of the entire ecosystem that revolves around the former USSR and Russia.
00:24:56.000That, again, I don't think we need a USSR, you know, and I certainly think, don't think that that's the trajectory that we're on, but our response might create a USSR.
00:25:06.000Which that being said, prior to 2014, a lot of these relations were normalized.
00:25:11.000You didn't have a destabilized Ukraine.
00:25:13.000You didn't have a destabilized Belarus.
00:25:22.000And the only country that was destabilized was Syria.
00:25:25.000And that was because of operations like the CIA-led Operation Timber Sycamore, which was signed off by John Brennan, which was signed off by Barack Obama.
00:25:33.000Hillary Clinton, when she was Secretary of State, she led, you know, led the charge there.
00:25:38.000And this was, and again, arming, they came up with this wonderful term.
00:26:28.000And the idea was, in their mind, that if we start a civil war in Syria, we can get rid of Assad for reasons that somehow support the United States.
00:26:42.000Which, well, and then Russia comes in and says, we don't want to lose our Mediterranean warm water port, and we're going to keep Assad right where he is.
00:26:49.000Yeah, and it ended up, I don't know, displacing 6 million people and inadvertently creating ISIS.
00:27:12.000The minute that we start that you get these egghead brainlets in Langley and they start telling themselves that just because they have an IV, they're all Yo Roths.
00:27:23.000It they're all yellow roles running the CIA.
00:27:27.000That you have these people who think that they believe that just because they have their wonderful dissertations and their Annenberg School of Communications credentials, that they can go in and they know what's best for Syria and they know what's best for Libya and they know what's best for Ukraine.
00:27:44.000And that they just go and move some things around and support this group over that group.
00:27:48.000It'll be great and everything will be fine.
00:27:50.000Well, and that's the reason why, I mean, again, I mean, by the way, when has regime change, when has regime change in Russia ever gone bad?
00:27:57.000I'm not the geopolitical mind that you are, but from a simplistic standpoint, and most of our listeners and you know, take it as a simple approach.
00:28:06.000That's why, and having spent time over there, I've always like questioned, why haven't we invested more into partners like Armenia?
00:28:48.000But like, look, we should have partners where it's like, yeah, I mean, if we but the thing is, because Turkey's got an incentive here too, because who is selling the Bay Rakhtar drones to Ukraine?
00:29:09.000So you've got Iranian drones going up against Turkish drones, where Ukraine is just the battlefield.
00:29:16.000And the poor people who are caught in the middle, like, and I don't know if you've seen these videos out of Bakhmut right now, the city that's right, it's sort of in on the outskirts of Donetsk.
00:29:30.000That, I mean, it's just getting torn up.
00:29:32.000Everybody there is just getting torn up.
00:29:34.000And they've taken the civilian, the whole city is a ghost town now because they've gotten the civilians out of Dodge and they're just tearing everything up like a meat grinder.
00:29:42.000And on both sides, it's just you hop on Telegram for five minutes and look up the word if you've got the stomach for it because it's just fields of bodies.
00:29:49.000It's just straight up fields of bodies.
00:29:51.000And I look at this and I, and I think of it as a father too, that these are sons that I've been able to do.
00:29:57.000I've been to be able to, that they're never going to be able to come home to their families.
00:33:24.000I actually don't think because both videos were pre-recorded.
00:33:27.000I don't think anybody knew that he had both videos pre-recorded.
00:33:29.000I don't feel negatively about doing different stuff.
00:33:32.000I just think it's bad for the president to, I don't think he's taking it seriously when he says, I have a major announcement and people are expecting to like announce a vice president.
00:33:43.000Announce a vice president or like have like a pocket pardon he saved from like the last president.
00:34:03.000Or to talk about declassified information or use his position as former president to talk about information that we all want to know about.
00:34:10.000So like stuff like that, I think is all.
00:34:23.000And I tell people all the time, I was like, if Trump would have just declassified like a ton of stuff that he wasn't supposed to, like, he would have become a hero.
00:34:31.000He should have ended every class of stuff.