Carol Markowitz talks about the stolen innocence of our youth, and then Joe Bob joins us to reflect on the frontline vandalism at UC-Davis. The Charlie Kirk Show is hosted by Charlie Kirk and produced by Andrew Dunn.
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00:01:13.000An incredibly important subject we're going to explore here.
00:01:18.000And we've talked and we've said this for a while: that the left aims to steal the youth, to rob the innocence of our children.
00:01:28.000That's exactly the name of a new national bestseller, Stolen Youth by Carol Markowitz and Bethany Mandel: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation.
00:01:45.000Tell us about the book and how are our children's youth being stolen?
00:01:51.000The book is an exploration of the way the woke culture has taken over all of our institutions, all of our schools, organizations, licensing organizations, basically every facet of society, and is now aiming all of their power at children to get them indoctrinated and to separate the family.
00:02:14.000In the book, we open with a history chapter on totalitarian societies and the way that this is not new.
00:02:20.000This is, you know, we have new words for it and we have new ideas that they're trying to push.
00:02:25.000But the idea of separating the child from his parents and getting that child indoctrinated into whatever idea you want them to have, that's a really old tale.
00:02:35.000And we're seeing it happening in America today.
00:05:31.000And by the way, James Lindsay, who's done incredible work, has identified several academic papers years ago about how drag is the gateway to corrupt children.
00:05:40.000So I just want to make sure our audience understands here.
00:05:42.000Carol, are you making the argument in the book Stolen Youth that there's an institution of grooming in our country?
00:06:04.000And in the book, we go through why that would be.
00:06:07.000Like, why would anybody want to do this to kids?
00:06:09.000But it makes them easier to indoctrinate.
00:06:11.000When the kids are afraid of everything, when they're all messed up, when their anxiety rates are an all-time high, our suicide rates are an all-time high.
00:06:18.000These kids are troubled and they're much easier to control when they're troubled.
00:07:37.000The woke and the reason that we use wokeism instead of like liberalism, a lot of liberals don't want this either, but they're afraid of this.
00:08:15.000I mean, we see a lot of these liberals that they don't believe it's as entrenched or they don't understand the depth or the extent of it.
00:08:24.000And I mean, there are some parents that are perfectly fine with their kids being groomed and being indoctrinated, which is just so bizarre and strange.
00:08:34.000And so you use the term woke, which I like.
00:08:38.000You know, obviously it was all over the internet the last couple of days.
00:08:42.000Let's call everything racist until you control it or just try to destroy the institutions around you and remake them in a postmodern, post-structuralist image.
00:08:59.000It's leftism through a very narrow lens.
00:09:01.000Even the leftists get in trouble a lot of the time because they, you know, haven't caught up with the latest language or the latest words that are acceptable.
00:09:09.000Wokeness makes you walk a really fine line of explaining yourself or having ideas.
00:09:15.000Like a great example of that is, you know, you can't say, I'm not racist.
00:09:21.000If you don't use that word, then you're out.
00:09:24.000And, you know, I see it happening now.
00:09:26.000I see on Instagram people saying that people of color, they don't like that anymore.
00:09:30.000Very soon, people of color is going to be out.
00:09:32.000And if you're still using it, you're going to be caught up in that dragnet where they, you know, will criticize you, call you racist for using a term that they themselves were using five minutes ago.
00:09:43.000So, you know, the jokey explanation I like to give about wokeness is the old leftism is, I got a woman's studies degree.
00:09:51.000The new wokeness is, I got a woman's studies degree, but I can't define woman.
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00:12:08.000I send two of my kids to public school, one of them to private school.
00:12:12.000And the paths really are different, but they end up hopefully at the same place, which is raising resilient children who aren't going to be crashing somebody's speaking event and throwing things through the doors and breaking glass.
00:12:25.000We had our book party in New York City got crashed by protesters last week.
00:12:44.000We counter concepts that they hear out in the world.
00:12:48.000And we make sure that we have a tight grip on raising them the way we want to raise them.
00:12:54.000We don't, you know, take other people's suggestions on how to raise our children if that includes going to drag queen story hour.
00:13:02.000We think that that's inappropriate and we don't care what everybody else says.
00:13:05.000So the step one has to be being strong in who you yourself are and who your family, you know, how you want your family raised.
00:13:13.000For Bethany, a lot of her concepts are pulling her kids out of culture, pre-reading all of their books, making sure that they don't watch anything that she finds offensive.
00:13:23.000And, you know, those are different ways.
00:13:25.000Like, I think my kids are going to encounter things in the world that I don't like.
00:13:29.000And I want them to learn how to deal with it and how to, you know, not cower to it.
00:13:34.000So the idea is to raise resilient children who grow into resilient adults and are able to live happy, fulfilled lives.
00:13:43.000And it's a tragedy that it is coming to this.
00:13:47.000I do agree with you in one sense that some decent people refuse to believe actually how awful and broken the country has become in this regard.
00:13:58.000They just like, oh, come on, it can't possibly be that bad.
00:14:30.000We have a chapter in the book on COVID because we felt like that was for a lot of people the meeting point of where they got involved.
00:14:38.000We saw throughout COVID the way children were targeted with some of the worst restrictions and needlessly, and how their interests were just not considered at all.
00:14:48.000But a lot of parents became motivated when they saw what the kids were learning over their shoulders.
00:14:53.000And I think that that energy has stayed pretty strong throughout the country.
00:14:58.000I think now we need politicians to take over some of that energy.
00:15:01.000Like, what's the point of politicians who don't take action on behalf of children?
00:15:08.000I moved here in large part because of Ron DeSantis's policies, COVID policies particularly, but also his just general school policies.
00:15:17.000I think if you live somewhere where you're not feeling good about your school system, I know it's hard.
00:15:23.000It was hard for us too, but you have to move your kids out of it.
00:15:26.000Maybe that means private or parochial schools.
00:15:29.000Maybe that means moving to a different town or a different state.
00:15:32.000But saving your kids has to be your priority.
00:15:34.000We go through a lot of this in Stolen Youth, but look, childhood is really short, and you really have only a limited opportunity to make your children become the kind of adults that you want them to be.
00:15:46.000And taking action is just something throughout the book that we focus on.
00:15:50.000Cut62 is a young girl around a bunch of parents, moms that are supporting them at Drag Queen child sexual exploitation.
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00:21:24.000The lockdowns were completely unnecessary.
00:21:27.000The lockdowns were one of the greatest mistakes in American and world history.
00:21:31.000And we create all this money out of thin air because of the lockdowns.
00:21:35.000We're less productive because of the lockdowns.
00:21:38.000We get into all this technology nonsense, staring at screens all day long, online shopping, all that.
00:21:44.000And these banks start to invest in bad products.
00:21:46.000And I hate to say that we called it on this program, but we did.
00:21:50.000I knew the economy was heading in a very troubling direction when donors would approach me at Turning Point USA saying, Charlie, do you know any business deals?
00:21:59.000Do you know where I should put my money?
00:22:02.000And I remember telling him, I said, this is not a good sign.
00:22:06.000When there is a greater supply of interest to invest than there is a supply of good places or places of value to put your money, you get something called malinvestment.
00:22:20.000Malinvestment happens when you create trillions of dollars out of thin air.
00:22:39.000People just don't want to put goggles on all day long and play in some sort of weird, abstract world of poorly defined characters and figures.
00:23:20.000Former Treasury's Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman admits with Silicon Valley Bank, the Biden regime effectively nationalized the deposit base.
00:23:32.000What the authorities did over the weekend was absolutely profound.
00:23:37.000They guaranteed the deposits, all of them, at Silicon Valley Bank.
00:23:42.000And what that really means is that they have guaranteed the entire deposit base of the U.S. financial system.
00:23:49.000This is a breathtaking step, which effectively nationalizes or federalizes the deposit base of the U.S. financial system.
00:23:59.000The authorities, including the White House, are not going to say that because what I just said, of course, implies that they've just nationalized the banking system.
00:24:09.000And technically speaking, they haven't.
00:24:12.000But in a broad sense, they're verging on that.
00:24:16.000Silicon Valley Bank is now marketing themselves.
00:24:19.000I mean, they should be shut down for fraud at this point.
00:24:22.000Where they say why there is not a, please join us for a call to learn at Silicon Valley Bank why there is not a single safer place to keep or transfer your deposits than Silicon Valley Bank.
00:24:36.000Parenthesis, fully insured with no limits or caps.
00:24:41.000Is that the new baseline for the FDIC?
00:25:19.000Yeah, so it happened to be right there by complete luck of circumstance.
00:25:25.000I was walking around the hallways and then saw a bunch of protesters break through the police barricade and were kind of cornering one of the police officers into the glass windows or the glass doors where everything ended up going down.
00:25:38.000So I took out my phone, started filming, and we were able to let the officer into the building.
00:25:45.000And, you know, naively, I thought, well, stop there.
00:25:49.000And I was probably too close in hindsight to the doors when the first window got kicked in.
00:25:55.000And that's when it all, well, pandemonium broke loose and they just shattered all of the doors.
00:26:00.000Thankfully, the response of the riot squad was able to keep people out, or else I think they would have come in and seen how much damage they could actually do.
00:26:11.000Which, like you said, this is way out of my alley.
00:26:14.000I'm usually the sarcastic, snarky, funny guy, but found myself in the middle of a bunch of chaos, all because a bunch of emotional children didn't want to hear a guy talk.
00:26:26.000And then not just talk, but allow them to talk too.
00:26:31.000So that's, and you mentioned it in your talk, but I feel like it should be reiterated over and over and over again.
00:26:37.000I went out to talk to some people before the actual event that none of the rioters were willing to talk to me, but I did talk to some kind of students and I asked them, hey, did you know that you can go inside?
00:27:11.000But, you know, not to hammer the point home continually, but if they had good ideas and they had good arguments for those ideas, they would actually make them.
00:27:20.000Ideas are either compelling or they are not.
00:27:22.000And if you can't make a good argument for your dumb ideas, you resort to smashing windows.
00:27:26.000And one of the issues, Joe Bob, that you pinpointed in your open is that this Gary guy, Gary May, lied about us at Turning Point USA, misrepresented our positions entirely.
00:27:38.000And, you know, you saw what happened there.
00:27:41.000I mean, you were literally feet away from them smashing the windows and all that.
00:28:26.000So we were at breakfast when that video you were talking about, the chancellor of the university put out a video saying how, you know, we really, really hate these people, but we're going to stand against hate in protest.
00:28:39.000We were watching that video as it was, as this thing was unfolding.
00:28:42.000And I just thought to myself, does this guy think this is going to lessen the temperature or raise it?
00:28:49.000Of course, it clearly raised the temperature.
00:28:52.000And I think, this is my own personal opinion, his words in that video emboldened some of those people who may or may not have been as radicalized, but I think it added to the temperature of the entire situation.
00:29:07.000And of course, it goes without saying they're lying about a bunch of the stuff.
00:29:11.000I think in the video, he said, Charlie Kirk advocated for violence, which of course, you just mentioned the Sacramento B said, no, he actually didn't.
00:29:20.000But of course, nobody would do any of that sort of stuff.
00:29:22.000And I think the main takeaway from this is going to be ultimately nobody who smashed any of the windows is going to be held accountable for that.
00:29:31.000The chancellor won't be held accountable for his actions in all of this.
00:29:36.000And nothing inevitably is going to happen to anybody who has their woke ideology with them and nothing else.
00:30:27.000Yeah, so it was really just remarking on the fact that, yes, human nature is such that people flock towards familiarity and everybody does it.
00:30:39.000It has been the case since the entirety of human history and will be forever.
00:30:45.000The problem that leftists have is when they talk about familiarity, it seems to only be the familiar of appearance.
00:30:54.000They congregate in these woke circles that really are only based around, again, like I said, appearance or race or skin color.
00:31:04.000The more advanced model of society and one that I hope that everybody occupies sooner or later is flocking to familiarity, but familiarity based in ideas and moral virtue and culture.
00:31:19.000Like I go to a church here in Southern California where, you know, I don't talk about the race makeup of the church, but there are Asian people.
00:31:32.000There are people of every single race and color.
00:31:34.000And nobody talks about it because that's not why we're there.
00:31:38.000We are there to congregate around an idea, in this case, our Christian faith, but nobody talks about the fact that the quote-unquote diversity in our church is outstanding because that's not why we're there.
00:31:54.000And hopefully, my hope is that someday the entirety of the country can elevate to a place where we, like Martin Luther King said, what, 50 years ago, you can be judged by the content of your character, not the color of your skin.
00:32:08.000So I would hope that that's the direction that the country is going.
00:32:15.000It is the fallen nature of man is to just associate with your tribe.
00:32:20.000The Torah, the first five books of the Bible, and it's repeated all throughout the scriptures, but very clearly it says, for example, we talk about loving the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt, as it says, Exodus 23, 9, Exodus 22, 11.
00:32:38.000This repeated idea that you must go out of your way to love the person that doesn't look like you, that is not from your tribe.
00:32:45.000That takes effort because the natural urge is to only associate with people that look the way that you do, right?
00:32:53.000Or people that are from your certain tribe or whatever.
00:34:11.000No, there was a lot of people that showed up way ahead of time that fortunately the security and law enforcement were able to identify that were not even close to college age.
00:34:23.000But the one thing that I really wanted to, that I thought while watching that video is the fascinating component about this, and I think you probably would think the same thing is I would love to just sit down and have a conversation with any of those people that tried to break in and just see what they think.
00:34:38.000And that is the last thing that they want.
00:34:41.000Not only that, I would have loved to have them come and ask a question.