The Charlie Kirk Show - The Theology of Marxism with Dr. James Lindsay

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody.

00:00:01.000 On a special weekend episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, my conversation about the theology of Marxism with James Lindsay and Michael O'Fallon from Sovereign Nations, that is sovereign nations.

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00:02:38.000 Well, we just went through a conversation with Dr. James Lindsay a few minutes ago about the theology of Marxism.

00:02:48.000 And do you want to kind of sum up what you had just said?

00:02:51.000 And then I want to transition from that into a conversation with Charlie because Charlie serves at the front lines of everything that's happening.

00:02:59.000 In many ways, I've been behind the scenes for a number of years.

00:03:02.000 James, of course, is front lines, but boy, Charlie takes most of the arrows.

00:03:06.000 But Dr. Lindsay, could you just explain to us again what you just spoke about?

00:03:10.000 Yeah, so we got another two hours.

00:03:13.000 It'll be easier this time.

00:03:14.000 No, it's really simple.

00:03:15.000 There are two major components, or three, I guess.

00:03:18.000 Marx wants to throw down religion as a mystification.

00:03:21.000 And in place of that, he's going to take Rousseau's leftism, the idea of a social contract governing society in an increasingly socialist way where we willingly give up our freedoms to achieve more freedom in the name of the greater good.

00:03:38.000 And then he's going to tuck that into the Hegelian dialectic as a process to transform society into its ideal state.

00:03:45.000 And so man is the creative subject in this religion who doesn't realize that he is his own God yet, but can realize that through this process by understanding the nature of his suffering rather than masking it with the opium of religion.

00:04:01.000 And in the long march of history can actually realize his true nature, which is transcendent of private property, totally communistic, perfectly social.

00:04:09.000 And social man lives in social society with no difference between man and society any longer.

00:04:14.000 And thus everybody pays Marx's bills.

00:04:17.000 And the way that we get there is that the conscious within this, the woke within this religion, the born again within this religion, however you want to phrase it, seize the means of production of man, society, and the world and transform it into a more human form, a form more usable by man, a form more suitable to man, which is essentially the Garden of Eden remade by men for men on earth as it isn't in heaven.

00:04:43.000 Charlie, how do you see that manifesting itself right now, not just within the political realm, but as well with the other cultural realms that you are dealing with right now on a daily basis?

00:04:54.000 Yeah, first, honor to be here.

00:04:55.000 Love Sovereign Nations, and I've known James for years.

00:04:58.000 It's funny.

00:04:59.000 Actually, two really, really important years, the last two years.

00:05:02.000 I blew both these guys off years ago because they came up to me at some event and I was like, I don't know what you're trying to do with Sovereign.

00:05:07.000 What?

00:05:07.000 Like, I don't understand.

00:05:09.000 That was a mistake.

00:05:10.000 And you learn as you get older.

00:05:12.000 And when I first heard James talk on my podcast, I was just blown away.

00:05:16.000 I was like, this guy's saying something really special.

00:05:19.000 And he's done more good work in the critical race theory debunking world and has not really received the credit he deserves for that.

00:05:27.000 And so I just want to let you know, James, you've done a great contribution to our country.

00:05:31.000 I mean that.

00:05:32.000 Truly.

00:05:34.000 So I love the title, The Theology of Marxism.

00:05:38.000 The reason I like it is that sometimes we are led to believe that our opposition does not have core beliefs.

00:05:45.000 And that's a mistake.

00:05:46.000 And it's easy to come to that conclusion because we kind of summarize, like, oh, they only want power.

00:05:51.000 They want motorcades. 0.99

00:05:52.000 They want people to go fetch their Diet Cokes.

00:05:54.000 They want to go to wine parties.

00:05:56.000 That's somewhat true for some of the people in the ruling class in our country, but it's not true for all of them.

00:06:02.000 The most dangerous people that are running our entire civilization are the ideologues.

00:06:08.000 They have thought this through and they have an answer for the chaos.

00:06:14.000 And that's really disturbing.

00:06:15.000 In fact, that should make you take pause.

00:06:17.000 I would rather have the super corrupt person that doesn't really think it through and they just want to be senator this or congressman that.

00:06:24.000 It's the person that actually thinks they're going to usher in an equivalent of heaven on earth through the destruction, through the dialectic, through the destruction of the American currency, through the opening of borders, through the elimination of gender norms.

00:06:40.000 They think through all of that tension of the thesis and the anti-thesis that they're actually going to get to something that will be meaningful and better.

00:06:49.000 And this was illuminated for me in amazing detail recently where I went on Tim Poole's program, who's kind of a Joe Rogan type.

00:06:56.000 And I was debating a legitimate Marxist, a communist, and we started talking about Hegel.

00:07:01.000 And he stopped me because I said, how do you believe about this stuff?

00:07:04.000 He said, Charlie, you're trying to tell me you don't think things are getting better?

00:07:11.000 And they actually believe through the chaos, through the disruption, through the destruction, that transition will then lead towards some sort of inevitable perfection.

00:07:21.000 Now, this is so pathologically insane for those of us that live in the real world, that are Christians, that are raising children, that are married. 1.00

00:07:30.000 We just kind of look at this abstract ideology in the clouds and be like, yeah, go back to whatever weird feminist studies department it came from. 0.99

00:07:37.000 The problem is that this is running our corporations, it's running our military, it's running the top levels of our government, it's running our curriculum, and it's now being run at not just an American level, but a global level.

00:07:49.000 And I've kind of spent a lot of time the last couple months.

00:07:52.000 Some of you probably seen the campaign we've been running the last couple weeks all around trying to get Americans educated in what the Great Reset is.

00:08:00.000 I've spent a lot of time on this, and it is pure Hegelianism.

00:08:05.000 It is the theology of Marxism, where, again, I don't know why they always pick Germans to run their one world government plan. 0.96

00:08:11.000 Like, were all the French unavailable?

00:08:16.000 It's just right out of a James Bond film.

00:08:18.000 Like, just you hear him talk, I inherently don't trust you.

00:08:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:08:21.000 Like, you could be saying that everyone should convert to Christianity.

00:08:24.000 I'd still not trust you, honestly.

00:08:25.000 Like, the way it's like, you must understand the great reset.

00:08:28.000 It's like, no, actually, I'm not buying it.

00:08:30.000 Like, it's really weird and creepy.

00:08:33.000 And so, anyway, we could talk about this.

00:08:35.000 I don't want to monopolize the time, but the takeaway for all of you, and my message at the grassroots, which is why this forum is so incredibly important, is do not underestimate your opposition.

00:08:45.000 They actually believe in this stuff.

00:08:48.000 They believe in the destruction because they think it will lead to something, quote unquote, better.

00:08:53.000 They believe in the queer theory. 0.78

00:08:54.000 It's not just power for power's sake.

00:08:57.000 That is a simpleton man's argument to try to explain the chaos on television.

00:09:02.000 It's not true.

00:09:03.000 An ideologue is far more dangerous than a power-hungry politician.

00:09:07.000 And as we just talked about in the session a couple sessions ago, is that when you really look at what we would call the great reset, the great reset is a transition again.

00:09:16.000 And so we had talked about it in regards to the French Revolution at Robespeak and the Jacobins, where they looked at it as a year one scenario.

00:09:23.000 You would have Paul Pott looking at it as a year zero scenario and so forth, to reset everything and start all over again in the right patterns.

00:09:34.000 And Dr. Lindsay, just from what you have said in the past, I know some things that you said on Joe Rogan's program a few months ago really resonated with a number of people in regards to kind of explaining what the intent is of really creating that reset and moving into the next phase of humanity.

00:09:51.000 And really it's what you were, I think we're just referring to in your previous session, correct?

00:09:55.000 Yeah, I mean, so the model is ultimately what Karl Marx is talking about is that man is estranged from himself and estranged from nature.

00:10:03.000 So what we have to do is we have to actually reset the world out of this unsustainable capitalist model, this shareholder capitalist model, where capital produces capital, produces capital, which is inherently, according to them, unsustainable system.

00:10:15.000 That's in fact inherently a logical system that has to create weirder and weirder justifications for itself.

00:10:22.000 But because it's an unsustainable system, as maybe you could read some of the mid-century, previous century, 20th century Marxists would have written, you know, that it produces...

00:10:33.000 So what capitalism does for them, why it's not a sustainable system, is, well, sooner or later, all the basic needs are met.

00:10:39.000 People have a pretty good standard of living.

00:10:41.000 And so then what happens is, well, people still need jobs.

00:10:44.000 So people create things that nobody needs just so that they can have more commodities to sell and to buy.

00:10:51.000 And so what happens is that level happens.

00:10:53.000 Everybody's basic needs are met, and then you make a layer of fake needs, and then the capitalist system fills that in, and then you make a layer of fake needs above that, and the capitalist system fills that in.

00:11:04.000 And this just goes on infinitely, creating more and more and more and more in an infinite spiral that eventually crashes the whole system, collapses the ecosystem, destroys nature.

00:11:13.000 In other words, where man is supposed to live and extract value and life from, destroys humanity itself by turning him into an increasingly commodity form.

00:11:22.000 And so what you see, whether it's Karl Marx or that's me paraphrasing Herbert Marcuse in the essay on liberation and One Dimensional Man, his books from the 60s, you see this kind of consistent theme.

00:11:33.000 But what you see with Klaus Schwab is that there's been a problem, he says, in his newest book called Zegret's Narrative, The Great Narrative 2022, to follow after the Great Reset.

00:11:44.000 See, we'll have the Great Reset to reset the world, which the full title of that book is COVID-19, the Great Reset, because COVID-19 turns out to be a unique opportunity, a narrow window of opportunity to shift the world to a new state.

00:11:58.000 But what's going to come on the other side is one where we're going to be more inclusive, more resilient, and more sustainable.

00:12:04.000 And what that actually works out to is that we have to take into account the natural world, the environment, but we also have to take into account things that corporations often don't pay attention to.

00:12:14.000 You have environmental externalities, like they don't care to pollute.

00:12:17.000 It's external to their balance sheet, so it's an externality.

00:12:20.000 But they also don't really care about so-called human capital and what it actually means to live and be as a human.

00:12:25.000 And Klaus Schwab actually says this in the Great Narrative, that the goal is to make nature and humanity so that it can be a sustainable, flourishing future, because capitalism doesn't contain the logic necessary to accomplish this.

00:12:40.000 But that's literally what Karl Marx wrote in the third manuscript of the Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts that I was just quoting from in the previous lecture.

00:12:47.000 And we see the continuity through Herbert Marcuse, for example, very clearly if you read his works through the 1960s.

00:12:53.000 So what we're seeing is that the Great Reset is to usher in a new paradigm that's based off of this exact same theology, this exact same idea that we can let the people who actually know how stuff's supposed to work and what the world's supposed to look like solve all of our problems for us, which are getting increasingly existential, increasingly out of control.

00:13:14.000 Did you know we have synthetic biology now, he tells us, where you could create pandemics?

00:13:18.000 Did you know that we have that?

00:13:19.000 This could be so dangerous.

00:13:21.000 He says things like this.

00:13:22.000 Did you know that we're moving into a digital currency regime, he says, and that people could hack your currency, or they could even control and turn off your currency.

00:13:31.000 Or you could have a digital ID that controls your buying and selling or any of these things.

00:13:35.000 Did you know that these are happening?

00:13:36.000 He says that over and over again, how dangerous the world is.

00:13:38.000 Better let us manage it for you because they're the ones who know.

00:13:41.000 And the goal is to make sure that we uplift humanity and uplift the environment so we have environmental and social goals at the heart of everything we're going to accomplish in our new sustainable environment that we're going to usher in.

00:13:54.000 So we are no longer caught in the contradictions of capitalism that will destroy humanity and our natural world that we live in.

00:14:01.000 It's literally the same thing.

00:14:04.000 And the thing that Charlie was just talking about a moment ago is that where James is talking about this from an economic structure level and in terms of the systems that we have that are coming in, that same thing that Charlie was just discussing earlier is that it's coming into then the rest of the pillars of our civilization.

00:14:20.000 It's coming into everything.

00:14:21.000 And I think, especially in regards to the people that are here in this room, it's coming into faith.

00:14:25.000 And that's where, of course, I started off 10, 12 years ago trying to warn about these things.

00:14:30.000 And so where you see it coming into faith, now Charlie has become very involved in things.

00:14:35.000 He has an organization called Turning Point Faith now that has become much more active and so forth that's really being able to kind of create that opportunity for a number of different folks that are of different denominational backgrounds, different, if you will, confessional backgrounds and so forth.

00:14:52.000 You know, there's no one particular doctrinal standard in terms of what you believe about soteriology or pneumatology or anything else.

00:14:58.000 But what they're seeing is here's a threat that's coming for all of us.

00:15:02.000 But it's not just coming externally, it's coming internally as well.

00:15:06.000 And so just recently, he interviewed a very good friend of mine that you know that I do a lot of things with, Tom Askell.

00:15:14.000 And it's important that we elect Tom Askell as the president of the Southern Baptist Convention to try to reverse some of the curse, as we would call it, a vampire-like parasitic thing that's actually happening.

00:15:25.000 A virus.

00:15:26.000 Virus.

00:15:27.000 Yes, that's right.

00:15:28.000 In Ebola-like virus that has infected us.

00:15:31.000 But Charlie, what have you seen?

00:15:33.000 Maybe because you've been dealing in the political world for so long, and now all of a sudden you've dipped your toe more so than your toe.

00:15:38.000 You've actually put two legs in into the pool of the faith.

00:15:43.000 And so, tell us how that's really how you've seen that now in the last year or so.

00:15:48.000 Yeah, I just want to make one comment on the kind of virus analogy.

00:15:51.000 I've said for a while, and the media hates when I say this, so I make sure I say it's clearly and slowly that the lab leak that has come from our college campuses has done and will do a lot more damage than the lab leak from Wuhan, China, which is the ideologies from our college campuses will do far more damage than COVID-19.

00:16:09.000 And you're seeing it all around you.

00:16:11.000 I'm not saying COVID-19 is not a threat, but we're destroying ourselves voluntarily because of wokeism, CRT, postmodernism, you know, deconstructionism.

00:16:19.000 So, I just wanted to add that.

00:16:20.000 And I think a lot of you are here today because you have this daily frustration of like, my goodness, we're doing this to ourselves.

00:16:27.000 Isn't that the great frustration right now?

00:16:29.000 Like, we are doing this to ourselves.

00:16:31.000 It's not like we're being space invaded, right?

00:16:34.000 It's a slow-motion suicide, which makes people go insane, and it honestly should.

00:16:39.000 You should get angry over it because you're doing it to ourselves.

00:16:42.000 So, about the church thing.

00:16:44.000 So, yeah, look, I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade at Christian Heritage Academy right outside of Chicago, Illinois.

00:16:50.000 I'm sure someone knows that school, founded by the great Wayne Grudem, who actually lives here in Phoenix now.

00:16:56.000 And I'm now in Phoenix as well.

00:16:58.000 We got to save it all together.

00:16:58.000 Love it here.

00:16:59.000 My goodness, we have our work cut out for us.

00:17:01.000 But I was always told at a young age, growing up in a Bible-believing church, that kind of politics, philosophy, and culture are totally separate than the church.

00:17:12.000 You wall it off, the church is for helping people, spreading the gospel.

00:17:16.000 You know, it's kind of like rock concert with a TED talk, lots of skinny jeans, give the money, park the cars, like don't ask any questions, right?

00:17:24.000 Like, that's the church.

00:17:25.000 And how naive we were when we thought that was actually what was supposed to happen, which is not theologically or biblically correct at all, while the bad guys were actually infiltrating our cemeteries, I mean, our seminaries, with this pathogen of wokeism.

00:17:40.000 And the entry that they saw, the way that they were able to kind of get this ideology, this pathogen to attach successfully, is that bad theology leads to bad politics.

00:17:53.000 And so they saw a great opportunity in the already beginning stages of deconstructionist theology.

00:17:58.000 Maybe the Bible's not what it says it is, or that weirdo Andy Stanley in Atlanta who says, you know, Christianity is not about the Old Testament.

00:18:08.000 It's about Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

00:18:11.000 It's like, okay, then why did Jesus quote Deuteronomy?

00:18:13.000 Like, can you answer me that?

00:18:14.000 I mean, this idea that it's either inerrant, the word of God, or it's not.

00:18:18.000 And that is the binary.

00:18:20.000 You have to exist in that binary.

00:18:22.000 And the kind of deconstructionist ideology started to seep in.

00:18:26.000 So I was naive 2012, 13, 14, 15, 16.

00:18:30.000 We shouldn't get involved in this at all.

00:18:32.000 I then met my now pastor, Rob McCoy, who's phenomenal Calvary Chapel Thousand Oaks, where he just blew my mind and he challenged me.

00:18:40.000 He said, Charlie, what you're doing on the campuses at Turning Point USA is exactly what is needed in the churches.

00:18:46.000 And I had never spoken at a church before.

00:18:48.000 I thought, you know, I don't have a doctorate.

00:18:50.000 I haven't been, you know, I haven't gone, I don't know, my M div or any of this.

00:18:53.000 And he's like, just come speak at my church.

00:18:55.000 I said, what?

00:18:56.000 Are you kidding me?

00:18:57.000 So I went and spoke at his church.

00:18:58.000 It went really well.

00:19:00.000 And this was right before COVID, locked down the entire country.

00:19:03.000 I spoke at over 100 churches in about a year and a half in every corner of the country, from Bangor, Maine to Albuquerque to the great Jack Hibbs Church, you name it.

00:19:11.000 I've been there.

00:19:13.000 And I learned a lot.

00:19:15.000 And I learned that the American church was under attack from within, largely from youth pastors that were attaching themselves into the congregation and bringing this bad ideology.

00:19:23.000 Nothing against youth pastors.

00:19:24.000 It just so happens they're the ones that most recently graduated from these, you know, these seminaries or from these schools.

00:19:30.000 And then I realized these pastors wanted to do something, many of them, but they had no idea how to fight CRT.

00:19:37.000 They didn't know how to fight on the American history.

00:19:39.000 They didn't know how to navigate the Floyd thing.

00:19:42.000 They didn't understand any of it.

00:19:43.000 And so we launched TPUSA Faith back in August of last year.

00:19:47.000 We have over 32 full-time people on the ground.

00:19:49.000 We're just here to help.

00:19:50.000 We're here to help pastors and churches better be able to fight for liberty in broad-based type coalitions.

00:19:55.000 We're doing some fun things this next week together that hopefully will be able to tell the story afterwards.

00:20:00.000 We have a pastor summit coming up in August.

00:20:01.000 We'll have over 350 pastors there from across the country.

00:20:04.000 So we're just trying to help.

00:20:05.000 We're just trying to play a role.

00:20:07.000 But let me kind of go a step deeper and then we can kind of keep going, which is, I was amazed at how weak the church was when it came to things that mattered.

00:20:18.000 I was under the assumption that when the church was going to get locked down, that they were going to fight back.

00:20:24.000 And these are the same people that were giving these sermons, like, got to have your Daniel moments.

00:20:29.000 Like, you, and like, next thing you're like, yeah, the government tells us to shut down.

00:20:32.000 We have to shut down for two years and wear a mask when we shower and like take nine booster shots or like whatever, right?

00:20:37.000 The government tells us because Romans 13, like, really?

00:20:40.000 Do you even know what Romans 13 says?

00:20:40.000 Okay.

00:20:43.000 And let me just talk about Romans 13 for a second.

00:20:45.000 Does everyone know what that is?

00:20:46.000 Okay, maybe or maybe not.

00:20:47.000 Romans 13 submits all rules and authority because God puts them in authority.

00:20:51.000 It's just so simple.

00:20:52.000 You just ask a pastor, okay, who's the authority in America?

00:20:55.000 Oh, the people are the sovereign.

00:20:57.000 Then who submits to who?

00:20:58.000 The mayor submits to us.

00:20:59.000 The senator submits to us.

00:21:01.000 The president submits to us.

00:21:02.000 We don't submit to them.

00:21:04.000 If every pastor gave that sermon when COVID began, we would be a much-freer country.

00:21:09.000 Anyway, it just drove me insane.

00:21:11.000 And so I'll just end with one more philosophical point on this where I think the church missed a great opportunity, which is everything that James is talking and Sovereign Nations talks about is of comes down to some very simple questions, right?

00:21:24.000 Which is, do you think human beings are naturally good and predisposed towards good or naturally predisposed towards evil?

00:21:31.000 Now, you could be a mixture of both, obviously, but we as Christians, it's not even, you cannot come to a different conclusion than original sin.

00:21:39.000 You can't.

00:21:40.000 You're reading something different if it's not original sin.

00:21:42.000 That's really important because they, the Marxists, the Rousseauians, believe that we're naturally good in the state of nature and that it's the environment and it's the country and it's private property that then corrupts us.

00:21:57.000 But if you believe that people are naturally not so good, you should be thankful and amazed we've been able to do anything decent at all.

00:22:05.000 And it's a totally different approach.

00:22:07.000 And the church has the easiest answer to this, and they should be the loudest on this.

00:22:11.000 And on the most important question, what is human nature?

00:22:14.000 The church has remained silent.

00:22:15.000 So my mission is to help the church and pastors wherever we can, regardless of denomination, regardless.

00:22:20.000 You know, we had a pastor's roundtable the other day.

00:22:22.000 We had a Baptist, a Pentecostal, you know, we had an Episcopalian.

00:22:25.000 Don't ask me what they were doing there, a Lutheran, you know, love the Episcopalians, but they're a little wacky on a lot of stuff. 0.99

00:22:31.000 Yeah.

00:22:32.000 And they're all arguing on theology.

00:22:33.000 I just had to, I had to, okay, listen.

00:22:35.000 They're like, pre-trib, post-trib.

00:22:36.000 Like, I'm pan-trib.

00:22:38.000 Okay, it's all going to pan out at the end.

00:22:41.000 Okay.

00:22:42.000 I said, if you guys keep this up, we're all going to be arguing our theological differences from prison.

00:22:46.000 Like, cut it out.

00:22:47.000 Let's fight for liberty to set the captives free. 0.67

00:22:50.000 Let me just hop on real quick here and point out that my friend Charlie is a busy man.

00:22:57.000 And so when he just said what he just said, the really deeper point before that part that was really hilarious, he didn't hear what we said all day today.

00:23:06.000 Right.

00:23:06.000 You're hearing it from another, he heard about the last five minutes of what I had to say from the back.

00:23:11.000 He didn't hear it, but he said the same thing Mike told you.

00:23:14.000 He said the same thing I told you.

00:23:16.000 It is actually the interpretation of what's going on in our society and the philosophy that's led us here.

00:23:21.000 I should say the theology that's led us here.

00:23:23.000 Right.

00:23:24.000 And so when you think about what happened three years ago when I got up on top of that New York City rooftop, how many of you have seen that video with me and James Lindsay and Peter Bogoshin?

00:23:34.000 So three years ago when we did that, and basically I knew I was taking a huge gamble, but I had to do it because this is really the issue.

00:23:41.000 So you have these two guys that come from the new atheist movement previously that had the exact same thing that deconstructed that movement happening within the Southern Baptist Convention.

00:23:51.000 So we're talking about Resolution 9.

00:23:52.000 We're talking about critical race theory and intersectionality.

00:23:55.000 And so they had the exact same experiences.

00:23:57.000 It's almost as if you get this social justice for dummies box.

00:24:01.000 And it's every single organization, you know, every single corporation, every single educational model, everybody gets it.

00:24:07.000 Ravelry, the knitting group worldwide, is doing the same thing.

00:24:12.000 And so when you realize that, it's happening at the same time, using the same techniques and strategies, and really trying to completely deconstruct everything.

00:24:21.000 So now you know what this is.

00:24:23.000 We're really all in this together.

00:24:26.000 And so if we are, there has to be a response from people that are saying, we understand what the fight is right now.

00:24:32.000 Now, that doesn't mean, and I mean this in the Francis Schaefer sense, this doesn't mean that you need to give up your confessions or give up the things that you believe in.

00:24:40.000 Far be it from that.

00:24:42.000 We can have those arguments and we can have those arguments later.

00:24:45.000 But right now, we really have an insurrection as well as an outside attack happening at the same time.

00:24:51.000 It's shock and awe, ideologically, in a fifth-generational warfare sense.

00:24:56.000 So you have Charlie who's involved with all these things.

00:25:01.000 And I do want to confess something to Charlie.

00:25:03.000 I think some of you know this.

00:25:04.000 I've told you before.

00:25:05.000 It was about 10, 12 years ago at a CPAC.

00:25:08.000 Somebody introduced me to Charlie to see whether or not I would help to manage this young man.

00:25:13.000 So you blew me off.

00:25:15.000 I blew him off.

00:25:16.000 James knows that.

00:25:17.000 I blew him off.

00:25:18.000 And I was like, yeah, yeah.

00:25:19.000 Last time was retribution.

00:25:21.000 Apparently, I'm the victim here because I just got caught in the crossfire.

00:25:25.000 So they got this feud, and here I am getting blown off.

00:25:28.000 There's no feud.

00:25:29.000 I was like, what am I doing?

00:25:30.000 Was it an 18, 19-year-old kid?

00:25:31.000 Whatever, you know?

00:25:32.000 I'm sure he's got a lot of potential.

00:25:34.000 Thanks a lot.

00:25:35.000 But you teamed up with an atheist.

00:25:36.000 I said, nice work. 1.00

00:25:37.000 You talk about the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life. 0.76

00:25:39.000 Anyway, but then the Lord brought James Lindsay into my life, so that's good. 0.92

00:25:43.000 But so I think the thing that you realize is those of us that believe in the Lord, I believe that there's a lot of providence at work.

00:25:52.000 And the thing is, is that, as I said to some of these folks that are with Charlie in the back room over here, is that the sands in the hourglass are few right now.

00:26:01.000 And we have to think about how we need to fight these things.

00:26:04.000 So in essence, a lot of people want, and I believe that this is, I want to bring this up first before we jump into ESG.

00:26:11.000 What I see, and you just tell me what you think about this, is that one of the greatest threats that we face right now is a lot like what's facing the Republican Party.

00:26:18.000 It's basically the same model is where you have the old Hegelians, the young Hegelians, young Hegelians being the radical Democrats, old Hegelians being the Rhino-Republicans. 0.82

00:26:28.000 But what you have now, in the last year and a half, is you have a lot of guys that are now talking about critical race theory and intersectionality, and it's very bad, but are unwilling to look at the guys that brought this in that are now trying to make sure that they slide past everything using the Mott and Bailey to be able to stay in leadership and continue on like a Mitch McConnell, like an Adam Kinzinger.

00:26:52.000 You know, you can name whatever names Salahs are in Miami.

00:26:56.000 It's the same thing basically happening right now in the evangelical leadership world as well as the leaders of seminaries that brought this ideological cancer into the body of Christ and allowed it to be infected like this, are now trying to let it go and trying to say, oh, well, we're all brothers now.

00:27:15.000 Let's keep on moving.

00:27:17.000 Nothing's happening here.

00:27:18.000 Nothing to see.

00:27:19.000 You know, again, these are not the droids you're looking for.

00:27:22.000 And they're trying to move past this at a rapid pace.

00:27:25.000 What would you say would be the things that we need to do to address this from both of your perspectives?

00:27:31.000 So I'll go first.

00:27:32.000 Is that okay?

00:27:33.000 Well, a couple of things.

00:27:33.000 Yeah.

00:27:34.000 I think you bring up some phenomenal points.

00:27:36.000 Let me kind of just make sure we all know what time it is.

00:27:39.000 So I judge a politician based on how they tell the time.

00:27:42.000 Not obviously that metaphorically.

00:27:44.000 What time is it?

00:27:45.000 Do you really still think we live in a country where live and let live is a thing?

00:27:50.000 And this is what drives me nuts about some older conservatives where they say, Charlie, why do you talk about the trans thing so much?

00:27:56.000 I said, well, you still think we live in 1996.

00:27:59.000 So you still think we live in a country where it's all about tolerance.

00:28:04.000 So here's the spectrum, right?

00:28:05.000 First, you must tolerate something, mandatory tolerance.

00:28:08.000 Okay, fine, sure, I tolerate it.

00:28:09.000 Then it's mandatory acceptance.

00:28:11.000 You must agree with it.

00:28:13.000 But then it's mandatory celebration.

00:28:15.000 Like you must then, no, no, then it's mandatory participation.

00:28:19.000 What time is it?

00:28:20.000 We are now transitioning from mandatory celebration to mandatory participation, where that if you're a baseball player and you don't want to wear the patch on the sleeve in the Tampa Bay Rays, you're not allowed to play in the baseball game.

00:28:31.000 Mandatory celebration, mandatory participation.

00:28:34.000 So what time is it exactly?

00:28:36.000 And we've done a lot of podcasts on this, and this is why I can't stand neoliberalism at its core in the Republican Party. 0.94

00:28:43.000 I think liberals could be very nice people, but they're so weak and naive.

00:28:47.000 I used to be one, honestly. 0.95

00:28:48.000 I was.

00:28:49.000 Not a liberal, as you might think, but like a neoliberal libertarian that we can all kind of live and let live, and I won't interfere with your life, and you won't interfere with mine.

00:28:59.000 What a lie.

00:29:01.000 Are you kidding me?

00:29:02.000 They put guns on our head.

00:29:04.000 We're like, oh, actually, I'm going to let you do whatever you want.

00:29:06.000 Actually, they're the ones that are willing to use force against us all the time.

00:29:10.000 And we're supposed to believe that we're still in kind of this live and let live atmosphere.

00:29:15.000 Look, live and let live works if both sides agree to it.

00:29:18.000 It has to be a mutual détente.

00:29:20.000 They crossed that a long time ago.

00:29:23.000 They realize the power of the state, the power of force, while most Republicans and conservatives live in this kind of fake kind of, let's just say, paradigm that might have existed 40 or 50 years ago, but I even doubt that.

00:29:36.000 But let's just pretend that it used to exist.

00:29:39.000 So what time is it?

00:29:40.000 That's the question I always ask our leaders.

00:29:42.000 And if they think it's time to like marginally cut corporate taxes or maybe like, I don't know, restructure the import, export-import bank, I'm like, you're a waste of time, okay?

00:29:53.000 Instead, I want to hear from our leaders very clearly that the country is slipping out of our grasp because of our own making, that there is a multi-dimensional game being played against us of the elites crushing normal working people, and that we need to invigorate regular people to be aware and active against what is being done to them.

00:30:14.000 That's what time it is.

00:30:16.000 And it has to be a conservative movement or whatever you want to call it, right?

00:30:19.000 That is willing to make sure that these dividing lines are clear and that they will be held accountable for it.

00:30:25.000 So I'm a little bit, I'm optimistic in one sense, and I'd love James's opinion because you mentioned the political side of it, which is we're in what I believe is the final phase.

00:30:33.000 Here's the optimistic take.

00:30:34.000 I just did a whole podcast on this, okay?

00:30:37.000 Which is the final phase, in my personal opinion, is that you don't really care if you're called a racist anymore.

00:30:43.000 That's right.

00:30:44.000 That's a big deal because I used to care.

00:30:47.000 It used to dominate my life.

00:30:49.000 I used to choose my words differently because someone might call me the R-word.

00:30:53.000 Before that, and it kind of happened Obama, right?

00:30:56.000 Where all of a sudden people started to wake up, Dinesh D'Souza, all these people were trying to warn us that there was a Marxist infiltration of America.

00:31:02.000 As soon as we started to recognize their multi-generational game, they started to weaponize name-calling and it worked.

00:31:09.000 They got a decade of plundering because we were in a mass paralysis over decency that never actually existed.

00:31:17.000 So now we're entering the final phase where thanks to Donald Trump and thanks to a new generation of leaders and many other people, that Tucker Carlson especially deserves a lot of credit for this.

00:31:27.000 A lot of credit.

00:31:28.000 And honestly, Rush Limbaugh tried to warn us about this for 40 years.

00:31:32.000 We just listened to Rush in 1995, things, the country would be a lot freer.

00:31:36.000 Where it's like, don't care what they say and all this.

00:31:37.000 But here's the point that I want to make for it, is the point where right now, you don't care.

00:31:42.000 They're starting to recognize that you don't care.

00:31:45.000 So they're starting to realize their spell that they have over you is fading.

00:31:50.000 So there's only one thing they have left, force.

00:31:53.000 Show trials.

00:31:55.000 Prison, literally.

00:31:57.000 Peter Navarro being arrested.

00:31:58.000 Steve Bannon being put on trial.

00:32:00.000 That's all they have left.

00:32:02.000 So we must endure this final phase, expose them using pure force, and you better believe we must be willing to use it twice as hard back at them.

00:32:11.000 And that's a hard thing for conservatives to tolerate, which is like, actually, no, you're not going to do drag queen story hour or bars for kids.

00:32:17.000 We're going to arrest you.

00:32:17.000 We're going to put you in prison publicly and purp walk you if you do drag queen stuff for children.

00:32:21.000 Like we should be unafraid to say that.

00:32:23.000 Like we're not going to put up with it.

00:32:26.000 And so, but here we are right around the corner from victory, everybody, because you're here on a Friday where you could be doing anything else and you want to learn about Marxism postmoderns.

00:32:37.000 Like, what's wrong with you?

00:32:39.000 Like, that's not normal.

00:32:40.000 They're not doing that.

00:32:41.000 They're growing weak.

00:32:44.000 They're growing apathetic.

00:32:46.000 You are growing strong and you're growing wiser.

00:32:49.000 You are part of a winning movement.

00:32:51.000 But I just want to know what time it is.

00:32:53.000 The time right now is they're going to use force against us big time.

00:32:56.000 It's going to get messy in the next six to 18 months.

00:33:00.000 We break through that.

00:33:01.000 We're going to have these people on defense.

00:33:03.000 And I believe we'll finally be able to push a button to politically put them into an extinction level event, the likes of which we never would have dreamed of a couple years ago.

00:33:13.000 James, did you want to.

00:33:16.000 So I agree with Charlie.

00:33:17.000 And by the way, there's more proof of my claim.

00:33:20.000 Charlie wasn't listening in secretly to repeat things that we had said because if he was, he would know that you're all here for the air conditioning because it's hot outside.

00:33:28.000 It's cool in here.

00:33:29.000 It's nice.

00:33:30.000 I even got a jacket.

00:33:31.000 I went outside for like one minute.

00:33:32.000 I'm like, what's happening?

00:33:34.000 We know why we're actually here on a Friday.

00:33:36.000 You can't be doing anything else.

00:33:37.000 It's 115 degrees out there.

00:33:40.000 He didn't know that we had that conversation earlier.

00:33:44.000 So I told you he didn't know.

00:33:45.000 But I actually agree.

00:33:46.000 I will give you a little tiny piece of evidence I saw this morning about this claim that their spell is broken.

00:33:51.000 They do cast spells.

00:33:52.000 They're alchemists.

00:33:52.000 They're magicians.

00:33:53.000 They've casted linguistic spells on us.

00:33:55.000 They've casted spells of fear and hysteria on us, and they're breaking.

00:33:58.000 So here's one.

00:33:59.000 I saw this article push on Twitter or something this morning when I got up, and it says that something, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:05.000 You mentioned the transgender stuff, that we have to do this, blah, blah, blah, because experts say.

00:34:10.000 They can't just say we have to do this because it's the right thing to do anymore.

00:34:13.000 They have to appeal to the experts that nobody believes.

00:34:15.000 They're realizing that they can't just morally browbeat us into this because the moral argument tipped the other way.

00:34:22.000 And for whatever reason, this wonderful Pride Month, they decided that pedal to the metal, probably decided this six months ago when they also came up with Ultra MAGA, that putting that pedal to the metal would be a great idea this month, and it's backfiring on them spectacularly.

00:34:35.000 There are drag queens everywhere. 1.00

00:34:37.000 There's drag queen pastors. 0.96

00:34:38.000 There's drag queens in the military. 1.00

00:34:39.000 There's drag queens in churches. 1.00

00:34:41.000 There's drag queens in schools. 1.00

00:34:42.000 There's drag queens in public libraries. 1.00

00:34:44.000 They're dragging kids out to 21 and up bars to go to drag queen shows. 1.00

00:34:48.000 There's this whole thing happening now where it's adults aren't allowed to the drag.

00:34:52.000 I just saw this.

00:34:53.000 Libs of TikTok sent it to me earlier today.

00:34:55.000 Literally, when I was at lunch, I saw it.

00:34:57.000 You're not allowed to get into the drag queen show without the adult isn't without a child. 0.99

00:35:04.000 They're pushing it so hard, they're screwing up.

00:35:07.000 So I share Charlie's optimism.

00:35:09.000 I also share Charlie's optimism for the reasons that we've kind of been floating around all through the morning, which wasn't exactly the question.

00:35:16.000 The optimism is that where Mike was talking about the Reformation this morning and how that brought in a new era of knowledge and light.

00:35:25.000 I actually don't believe that we entered into a marketplace of ideas.

00:35:28.000 I believe that we think that we did or we were lied to and told that we were.

00:35:32.000 We actually entered into a feudal estate aristocracy of ideas where we have to listen to the experts who are trying to convince us that there's sudden adult death syndrome now, and they're trying to convince us that the experts say that trans is necessary to take the kids to the drag queen shows. 0.78

00:35:47.000 The experts are frauds and they know they're getting exposed as frauds and we are entering into the information economy that's a marketplace of ideas where it's going to show up their fraud over and over again.

00:35:59.000 And in fact, I think they're hastening the way they are now because they know that their grip is about to slip.

00:36:05.000 And if they don't get total control now, within maybe the next few years, they're going to lose everything.

00:36:11.000 Because you're going to be able to do your own research.

00:36:13.000 I mean, we all know about the public health crisis we're not allowed to mention on youtube.com, and we all know that the internet figured out most of the story within about two weeks.

00:36:22.000 Here we are two years later, and they're still trying to tell us about sudden adult death syndrome.

00:36:28.000 We all see through it now, and that's rapidly gaining in momentum.

00:36:32.000 So I share Charlie's optimism.

00:36:33.000 I do think we are.

00:36:34.000 Sorry for this lame-o thing at a turning point in history.

00:36:40.000 I've been waiting the whole speech for that.

00:36:43.000 You can pay me later.

00:36:44.000 There you go.

00:36:45.000 I already did.

00:36:46.000 So, but to answer the question, what do we do?

00:36:49.000 I get asked something all the time: James, do you think that these people really know what they're doing that are implementing this stuff, that are bringing it into the door?

00:36:57.000 Do you think they just maybe made a mistake?

00:36:59.000 Do you think that they're incompetent or do you think that they're evil? 0.90

00:37:02.000 I don't care, fire them. 1.00

00:37:05.000 Oh, they're incompetent. 0.93

00:37:06.000 Let's keep her as something in charge of the Federal Reserve, Janet Yellen. 1.00

00:37:11.000 No.

00:37:12.000 Oh, wow, we didn't know about the inflation.

00:37:13.000 We just got here with a bunch of shocks.

00:37:14.000 We had no idea shocks were coming.

00:37:16.000 There were shocks.

00:37:16.000 It tricked.

00:37:17.000 Okay, great.

00:37:18.000 Nice job.

00:37:20.000 Next, what is the phrase?

00:37:21.000 You fired.

00:37:24.000 If you're incompetent, you're gone. 0.99

00:37:25.000 If you're evil, you're double gone. 0.99

00:37:27.000 It's really simple.

00:37:28.000 You have to be able to comprehend this.

00:37:30.000 These were not honest mistakes after a point.

00:37:34.000 They became negligent mistakes after a point, if they were mistakes at all.

00:37:39.000 And then many of the people that were implementing these things knew exactly what they were doing, which means they were engaging in sedition and treason.

00:37:45.000 Rights.

00:37:46.000 Exactly.

00:37:47.000 Those people have to be held to account.

00:37:50.000 The people who have allowed this to happen have to be held to account.

00:37:53.000 Courts can adjudicate whether it was intentional or unintentional via the processes that we use to make those judgments, and judges can make those adjudications and give the sentences that are fitting.

00:38:04.000 We should preserve that.

00:38:06.000 But this accountability is 100% and absolutely necessary.

00:38:10.000 The people who were bringing this in, whether through negligence, which maybe it started as honest mistakes, but it became negligence and it became greed.

00:38:19.000 It became somebody gave them a check for their ministry or gave them a check for a grant for their project.

00:38:24.000 And then they were like, wow, we hired all these people.

00:38:26.000 We built this cool new building.

00:38:28.000 And now we've got this mortgage.

00:38:29.000 And it's like, you want another check?

00:38:30.000 We're going to make some changes.

00:38:31.000 Well, guess what?

00:38:32.000 In that instant, you became complicit.

00:38:35.000 When you didn't say no, you became complicit.

00:38:38.000 And accountability is necessary.

00:38:40.000 So, for these people, the attempt to skate by this, I get it, but no.

00:38:45.000 Accountability is the way we write the ship.

00:38:48.000 That's right.

00:38:48.000 The ship has listed because these people have pulled it so hard to the left, and we have to throw them off and bring the ship back upright.

00:38:58.000 The accountability is necessary.

00:38:59.000 So they don't get to skate by this.

00:39:01.000 Now, you talk about the brought in the CRT, brought in this cancer, brought in, and they're going to just try to glide by it.

00:39:07.000 Oh, man, since we're going to just transition, I know where we want to go.

00:39:11.000 Wait until you hear about the people who weren't really responsible for implementing ESG.

00:39:19.000 We were just doing corporate best practices.

00:39:21.000 We had no idea.

00:39:23.000 Absolutely no idea.

00:39:24.000 ESG is going to be the biggest accountability hole.

00:39:27.000 Everybody's going to pretend they never did it. 0.97

00:39:29.000 The rats are jumping ship on that already.

00:39:31.000 So I'm telling you, accountability is the key.

00:39:35.000 Well, sorry that we were talking while you were saying, because here's the thing.

00:39:38.000 I was talking to them.

00:39:41.000 I talk to you all the time.

00:39:43.000 Remember, we were talking about earlier, and this is why I said through the day, hey, we're going to hold off talking anymore about this.

00:39:50.000 But here's, let's go ahead and pull up the hood over what's happening with this entire move into the fourth industrial revolution, which is really more spiraling into the dialectic.

00:40:02.000 And when you take a look at what's really powering all of the changes that we just discussed in economics and education in corporate areas as well as within faith, at the center of this, and this is what I kind of blew up this week on Twitter in regards to GuidePost, the organization coming out with the SATF on the Southern Baptist Convention, was that they are ESG driven.

00:40:23.000 The organization that they brought in to do their entire report in the Southern Baptist Convention is driven by DEI and ESG.

00:40:32.000 But ESG is the thing that's actually behind everything that we see moving right now, environmental, social, and governance.

00:40:40.000 So when you talk about ESG, you're talking about the religion of environmentalism.

00:40:45.000 You're talking about an environment, socialist, fascist move that's happening right now that is a hybrid synthesis of the worst of all ideas, a gain of function of the worst ideas of mankind.

00:40:58.000 So when you look at ESG and you see how that's driving everything, and I know you've spent a lot of time trying to convince folks like Dr. Jordan Peterson a long time ago about how this was happening and so forth.

00:41:12.000 How is ESG driving nearly everything in this entire move?

00:41:19.000 And why is it something that we need to focus on?

00:41:21.000 I know it sounds obscure to some of you folks, but why is that so important?

00:41:25.000 So let me just say a couple things on this.

00:41:27.000 The corporate topic is something I'm really passionate about, which is kind of involving in all of this.

00:41:32.000 The only thing I hate more than wokeness is weakness.

00:41:35.000 It drives me crazy.

00:41:36.000 It's okay, fine.

00:41:37.000 The wokeys are always going to be around there. 1.00

00:41:39.000 They're only powerful because of weak people.

00:41:41.000 Okay, they're only powerful because people in power that didn't have courage allowed them to take root.

00:41:47.000 And if there was one community of people that I think is most responsible for where we are, it would be people that knew better and did nothing.

00:41:57.000 Also known as our Fortune 100 CEOs.

00:41:59.000 I mean, these people are despicable. 0.71

00:42:01.000 I don't say that lightly.

00:42:03.000 Is that they all went to the best schools and they get held hostage the same way James just articulated it by their $26 million year salary, by their kid wanting to go to the same school they went to, and they are held hostage by the wokey insurrectionists that come from the HR boardrooms and say, okay, here's what you're going to do, Coca-Cola.

00:42:22.000 You're going to have a whiteness is evil PowerPoint presentation. 1.00

00:42:26.000 You're going to have Robin DiAngelo come in.

00:42:27.000 But it's even worse than that, though, because ESG is actually structural.

00:42:32.000 It's about financing.

00:42:34.000 It's about we're not going to partner with your company if you do not have a proper ESG score.

00:42:40.000 And this really does kind of come from the top.

00:42:43.000 And I love markets.

00:42:44.000 You guys love markets.

00:42:46.000 But we should also be honest that markets should serve people and we do not serve markets.

00:42:52.000 It's a big difference.

00:42:53.000 We are a country that has an economy in it.

00:42:55.000 We are not an economy that has a country in it.

00:42:58.000 This is what makes us conservatives, not libertarians.

00:43:01.000 So when I see a company that has $10 trillion in assets run by Larry Fink, and they're going and buying single-family homes, and they're going to start raiding who can rent the homes from them based on their social score as a citizen, I'm like, that's not, I don't, you could call that capitalism, that's disgusting, it's wrong, we shouldn't put up with it.

00:43:22.000 And so some people in the Republican Party say, Charlie, you know, that's not very puritanically market-driven.

00:43:29.000 Of course it's not, obviously.

00:43:30.000 Because I don't like tyranny and you don't either.

00:43:32.000 And I don't like the tyranny of government.

00:43:33.000 And I certainly don't like the tyranny of BlackRock.

00:43:36.000 And so what you have is these massive funds that, by the way, are heavily subsidized by cheap money policies, bailouts, $6 trillion bills that never should have been passed by the federal government.

00:43:46.000 They got richer while you struggled.

00:43:49.000 They benefit from inflation, make no mistake.

00:43:51.000 Inflation is a gift to the ruling class.

00:43:53.000 They can move their assets quickly.

00:43:54.000 They can raise rates.

00:43:55.000 They can raise apartments, rent.

00:43:58.000 They could do all these things.

00:43:58.000 Inflation will crush you.

00:44:00.000 They'll get richer from it.

00:44:01.000 And then they're able to change the rules of who gets to play in the sandbox.

00:44:06.000 And just one example in ESG, and then I'll let James riff on it.

00:44:09.000 It shows the utter fraud.

00:44:12.000 What company has just recently got a bad ESG score?

00:44:16.000 Elon Musk's Tesla.

00:44:19.000 The electric car company can't get a good environmental score.

00:44:23.000 Why?

00:44:24.000 It's because Elon's a threat to the regime.

00:44:27.000 Because Elon would sit through this form and agree with 99% of what we were just saying.

00:44:31.000 And Elon is willing to go buy companies, start new things, and be courageous.

00:44:35.000 So they must penalize him for that.

00:44:37.000 So James, what's the significance of getting a bad ESG score?

00:44:41.000 Can I go into something real quick when he's doing that question first?

00:44:44.000 Charlie, where does BlackRock and Larry Fink?

00:44:46.000 Where have they put about $7 trillion worth of their assets?

00:44:49.000 Where have they decided to go ahead and keep those assets?

00:44:51.000 Do you know?

00:44:52.000 I don't.

00:44:52.000 I mean, I know they've been doing farmland and a lot of single-family homes, but you got to tell me.

00:44:57.000 Well, in terms of their liquid assets, they've put a lot of them in China.

00:45:00.000 That's right.

00:45:00.000 You're right.

00:45:01.000 So all of a sudden, the grand majority of what they have is being put over in Chinese banks.

00:45:08.000 Well, who is it that's going to absolutely ignore ESG?

00:45:12.000 China.

00:45:14.000 You know, so while they're building nuclear power plants, we're dismantling them.

00:45:18.000 While we are dismantling coal-fired plants and so forth, they're building them.

00:45:24.000 So that's something.

00:45:25.000 So I'm sorry.

00:45:26.000 James Riff.

00:45:28.000 Riff on ESG.

00:45:29.000 I mean, so, I mean, I think Elon Musk is the one who said that he thinks ESG is the devil incarnate on Twitter a couple of months ago.

00:45:37.000 It's certainly a scam.

00:45:39.000 I've described it.

00:45:40.000 If you want to control the bull on Wall Street, the way you control a bull is put a ring through its nose and jerk it around.

00:45:46.000 ESG is that ring.

00:45:47.000 Turns out that Charlie left out a very important piece of why it should really irritate you.

00:45:50.000 Because Larry Fink isn't screwing around with markets and gaining control over them with his ESG scores, which, by the way, if it was really like people haggling out what does sound environmental policy look like?

00:46:01.000 What does sound social responsibility for corporations look like?

00:46:04.000 What does sound corporate governance look like?

00:46:06.000 And they're haggling it out and there are different answers to this question and they were debating it and so on.

00:46:11.000 ESG, whether or not it serves the interests of long-term profitability, which is the justification they give, that's an open question that would be worth answering.

00:46:19.000 But it's not.

00:46:19.000 Larry Fink gets to decide what's environmentally sound.

00:46:22.000 Larry Fink gets to decide, or whoever's working with Larry Fink in some kind of a, I don't know, what was the Russian word for council again?

00:46:29.000 Soviet.

00:46:30.000 That's right.

00:46:31.000 They get to decide what's environmentally sound, socially sound, et cetera.

00:46:35.000 So all of a sudden they can tank Tesla on their ESG score because Elon Musk said, well, Twitter seems whack.

00:46:41.000 Maybe I'll buy it.

00:46:42.000 And they're like, wow, Tesla has a terrible social score now. 0.57

00:46:45.000 It's terrible.

00:46:46.000 Elon has terrible social skills. 0.97

00:46:48.000 He's autistic. 0.64

00:46:49.000 They even said that.

00:46:50.000 That's right.

00:46:51.000 So that's ableism by their own standards.

00:46:53.000 And they don't care because their standards don't apply to them.

00:46:56.000 What was the other thing that Elon Musk actually said that probably set them off in regards to ESG?

00:47:02.000 That it's a scam?

00:47:03.000 Correct.

00:47:03.000 The ExxonMobil thing was the most interesting one where he said, why is it ExxonMobil has a good environmental score and Tesla doesn't?

00:47:11.000 And like, look, we love fossil fuels, but if he's right, I mean, obviously, it's because ExxonMobil bends the knee.

00:47:17.000 ExxonMobil will worship Molech and Tesla will not.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, so the question then, the thing that Charlie didn't touch on is, where in the heck did Larry Fink get all this power?

00:47:26.000 Well, Larry Fink runs an index fund management, which is passive investment, which means your retirement, your pension funds.

00:47:34.000 He's taking trillions of dollars of everyday people's retirements and leveraging that against the entire market so that it falls under his control and his definitions.

00:47:44.000 So the way that it works is that if you don't meet the definitions of BlackRock, Vanguard, whoever all is in the cabal, what is it, the Council of the Soviet, of controlling that, deciding what these words mean, the World Economic Forum's right in there hand in glove.

00:47:58.000 If you don't meet the council's, the Soviet definitions of environmental social governance, they're going to leverage your retirements against companies that don't play ball.

00:48:09.000 Coca-Cola doesn't want to play.

00:48:11.000 Well, maybe Coca-Cola isn't going to get so much investment capital anymore.

00:48:14.000 But you think Coca-Cola is huge.

00:48:15.000 It doesn't need investment capital.

00:48:17.000 It just has to stop alienating customers and selling loads and loads of Coke because Coke is great and totally American thing.

00:48:22.000 Well, that's okay because BlackRock and Vanguard and these companies that are in the Cabal or the Council of the Soviet own something like 30% of Coca-Cola.

00:48:29.000 So they're like, Coca-Cola, play ball or we'll sell all the shares and your stock price is going right in the toilet.

00:48:34.000 And if you spiral down and crash into the mountains, so be it.

00:48:36.000 Good luck because we're not giving you anything to help you.

00:48:39.000 This is what's called extortion or racketeering.

00:48:42.000 That's right.

00:48:43.000 This is a racketeering scam run by a cartel.

00:48:47.000 But if you say these words, people get real scared.

00:48:50.000 That's how this is at.

00:48:51.000 You want to riff.

00:48:52.000 This is a cartel running a racketeering scam based off of cooked books, environmental social governance policies that can change like that.

00:49:01.000 You know, we have this all of a sudden conflict spring up in the breadbasket of Eastern Europe, as we'll refer to it, has a blue and a yellow flag.

00:49:09.000 You may have seen it.

00:49:11.000 It's the symbol on social media that somebody's going to say something really dumb if it's on their social media profile.

00:49:16.000 That's how they tell you they're going to say something completely wrong.

00:49:20.000 Is that they have that on their handle on the Twitter.

00:49:23.000 Okay, so anyway, that place has a conflict arise in it.

00:49:26.000 And so immediately, the social score, the S score in ESG for weapons manufacturing for that in particular goes up.

00:49:36.000 So all of a sudden, you know, like... Northrop Grumman.

00:49:40.000 Yeah, Northup Grumming and Halliburton, Raytheon, all these huge weapons manufacturers are ESG compliant because they build a more socially good world because it serves the social goals of the people who have a particular invested outcome in the conflict that arose in said breadbasket.

00:49:59.000 That's a fraud.

00:50:01.000 That's fake.

00:50:02.000 That's totally fake.

00:50:04.000 There are something like, what was it I saw?

00:50:06.000 160 billion masks floating in the ocean because of said public health crisis.

00:50:11.000 We're not allowed to say anything about the couf.

00:50:14.000 160 billion. 0.99

00:50:15.000 Remember how we have to drink out of stupid paper straws that suck and ruin your drink because the plastic straws go and anger a turtle or something in the ocean? 0.99

00:50:22.000 Which turns out that the science showed that they don't actually do that, but it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:50:26.000 We still have to have paper straws in plastic wrappers because they're ESG compliant.

00:50:32.000 All of the mask requirements that led to 160 billion masks floating in the oceans that actually do strangle sea life raised your environmental score because they dealt with a public health environmental crisis.

00:50:46.000 It's totally arbitrary power masquerading as doing the right thing, according to the Council for Public Safety that's headquartered in Davos.

00:50:57.000 It's a scam.

00:50:58.000 It's a cartel.

00:50:59.000 And what they do then is they go through the fund managers, right?

00:51:03.000 So they'll go to BlackRock, Blackstone.

00:51:05.000 They'll go to the big ones and they'll get them to sign an ESG pledge.

00:51:09.000 So they'll get the HR wokies to pressure them. 0.97

00:51:12.000 Okay, sure, I'll only trade with ESG-approved companies.

00:51:15.000 So then what they've done is they've created ESG ETFs, and then they'll only be allowed to trade within the companies on the ETF.

00:51:23.000 So the significance of Tesla not being on ETF, they'll be fine because you guys will still buy Tesla stock because it's actually a great company and he's done an amazing job.

00:51:31.000 But for a company that's a little bit on the edge, like 3M or whatever, if they don't get a good ESG score, then that could be the end of their company.

00:51:40.000 Because the big funds, not the retail people that buy $50 of stock, the people that could park $50 billion, Fidelity, Schwab, Goldman Sachs, they've all signed these ESG pledges.

00:51:52.000 And by their own pledge, they're not allowed to then go trade if it doesn't have a certain ESG score.

00:51:58.000 So that's a way how they've been able to hold all of corporate America hostage.

00:52:01.000 It's a massive hostage-taking scenario.

00:52:04.000 And the CEOs that have done this, you can just see their excuses.

00:52:09.000 Well, we had no idea.

00:52:10.000 Like James said, we didn't know what, of course, you guys are so weak.

00:52:14.000 All you care about is your second or third house in the Bahamas.

00:52:18.000 You don't care about the country.

00:52:19.000 You don't care about the nation.

00:52:21.000 You don't care about your children.

00:52:23.000 All you care about is that $26 million bonus.

00:52:25.000 And I mean, Jesus was right.

00:52:27.000 It's the love of money, not money itself, that is the root of all evil.

00:52:30.000 And these corporate hacks, man, I'll tell you what, a reckoning has to come against them because they knew better.

00:52:37.000 They were tasked to actually be guardians of our country.

00:52:41.000 And one final thing I'll say with this is that if you go to any sort of history class, by the way, we just launched Turning Point Academy here in the Valley, which is very exciting.

00:52:50.000 We're partnering with Dream City Christian Enrollments Open.

00:52:54.000 So if you're sick of your kids' school, come to our school.

00:52:56.000 They'll learn real history and real civics, vetted curriculum, and train teachers.

00:53:00.000 It's going to be awesome.

00:53:01.000 So if you want more information on that, happy to give it to you guys.

00:53:03.000 But if you go to any other history course, they'll vilify Carnegie, Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan Chase.

00:53:10.000 A lot of that is misconstrued.

00:53:12.000 Some of it's true.

00:53:12.000 But I'll say one thing about the Titans that they called in the Gilded Era.

00:53:16.000 They never would have signed an ESG pledge.

00:53:18.000 Those guys loved America.

00:53:20.000 Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Chase, they loved America so much that they bailed out the U.S. government when it was necessary.

00:53:28.000 They never would have signed an intercontinental agreement around some arbitrary ideology.

00:53:33.000 They're like, no, no, no, we're rich and we love the country that got us rich.

00:53:37.000 Something happened, and I think you know why from this, where all of a sudden the rich people end up hating the country that made them rich.

00:53:43.000 Now, let's talk about the S in ESG and really how this applies to average everyday Americans.

00:53:48.000 Now, you may be thinking that, well, you know, I'm not heavily invested in the market.

00:53:51.000 What do I care about ESG?

00:53:53.000 Well, unfortunately, it then populates everything.

00:53:56.000 It's not just a question of products.

00:53:58.000 It's a question as well, financial institutions.

00:54:00.000 But then, in regards to you personally and what actually is articulated through DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, does that, and I already know the answer to this, but please, if you can, how does that end up actually become our credit score?

00:54:16.000 And then those that are doing business with us or employing us have to start to consider what our scores are as opposed to just the corporations.

00:54:26.000 Well, I want to start by telling you you're mispronouncing the S.

00:54:28.000 It's not pronounced S in ESG.

00:54:30.000 It's pronounced S. Like the hiss of a snake.

00:54:35.000 Like the hiss of a snake.

00:54:36.000 It's really weird what it is.

00:54:39.000 So I get asked a lot why it's impossible to get, say, a university, often to get a company, to get anybody to try to dismantle some of the DEI apparatus.

00:54:49.000 You can't find a single university that every university president knows.

00:54:56.000 They know that they're going to have the biggest boom in enrollment that they've ever seen, ever, if they just kick out the woke stuff.

00:55:04.000 They all know this, but not a single one of them will do it.

00:55:07.000 And that means there's something much bigger holding them hostage.

00:55:11.000 And what it largely is, the DEI department is serving the S score for their ESG, which is running their entire organization's pension funds.

00:55:21.000 It's access to them.

00:55:22.000 It's running their organization's investment capital capacity.

00:55:26.000 It might even work out to where it's running their ability to take, say, federal student loans at some point or all of these things.

00:55:32.000 So they're beholden to this thing.

00:55:34.000 So you can't get rid of the DEI department in a single university because it's about 80 to 85% of the S score in ESG.

00:55:42.000 It's pronounced like the snake would say it, right?

00:55:45.000 You get the reference.

00:55:46.000 I read the reference actually earlier in my talk.

00:55:50.000 Did you know I quoted Genesis in my talk?

00:55:52.000 It's good for an agnostic. 0.99

00:55:54.000 You used to call yourself an atheist.

00:55:55.000 Progress, like Hegel is.

00:55:56.000 Yeah, progress.

00:55:57.000 Right, everybody?

00:55:58.000 Progress.

00:55:58.000 Yeah.

00:55:59.000 It's very progressive.

00:56:01.000 I mean, the way you described conservative earlier, I'm like a conservative all the way too, so watch his jaw drop.

00:56:06.000 There he goes.

00:56:07.000 He's been waiting to hear that for two years.

00:56:09.000 I have.

00:56:10.000 I said, James, I think you're more like us.

00:56:12.000 My favorite quote ever from James was at a Turning Point USA event, America Fest.

00:56:16.000 I know a lot of you guys came to that.

00:56:17.000 And if not, you guys got to come in December.

00:56:19.000 It's amazing.

00:56:19.000 10,000 plus people at the Phoenix Convention Center.

00:56:22.000 And James, he said, you know, if there was a devil, he would have created queer theory. 0.98

00:56:27.000 I was like, that's really a big statement for, you know, an agnostic.

00:56:31.000 I was like, that's, I totally agree.

00:56:33.000 Like, this stuff is demonic.

00:56:35.000 But I want to just mention one other thing about the social credit system.

00:56:38.000 We're already entering into that.

00:56:40.000 This is going to impact banking.

00:56:41.000 It's going to impact your own ability to get financing.

00:56:45.000 They are trying to create a reward and incentive and inversely a punishment system if you participate in wrongthink.

00:56:53.000 If you participate in the wrong thoughts or you vote for the wrong person, they do want to be able to have a financial pressure against you.

00:56:59.000 So I do want to mention one thing that we have to do in the last five minutes.

00:57:03.000 I just kind of as a solutionist, you're like, wow, this is so overwhelming.

00:57:06.000 It is, but I do believe that this is the importance of philosophy and ideas, which I know can make people, you know, kind of bored at times.

00:57:15.000 But you're all very invigorated by all this, which is the more we're able to get our message out, all we have to do is flip a couple of these people.

00:57:23.000 That's all we have to do, is that we don't have to win them all.

00:57:26.000 We just need a couple more defectors like Elon.

00:57:28.000 Look, they're going to throw everything they can at Elon. 0.96

00:57:30.000 I live in Scottsdale.

00:57:32.000 Every third car is a Tesla.

00:57:34.000 Unless they take Epstein, that guy, he's going to be a force to be reckoned with.

00:57:38.000 Meaning that they just red-pilled the guy worth $220 billion.

00:57:43.000 And he's obviously game for impulsive transactions to try to save Western civilization.

00:57:49.000 Awesome.

00:57:50.000 And the point is that we don't have to win them all over.

00:57:53.000 That's why people like James and Sovereign Nations and all of you are so important, is we just have to have a couple defectors.

00:57:59.000 And then we have to build our own stuff and then meet them in the middle.

00:58:02.000 We have to build schools.

00:58:03.000 We have to build churches, support the good churches, build families.

00:58:06.000 You don't have to, look, it seems overwhelming, but here's the thing.

00:58:09.000 They're so incredibly weak, all these people.

00:58:12.000 They're not ready for a fight. 0.85

00:58:14.000 We are.

00:58:15.000 These corporate hacks will run to the hills.

00:58:17.000 And the wokies are running out of political and social capital. 1.00

00:58:22.000 There's only so many New York Times front page op-eds on BLM, buy large mansions, that they could possibly do.

00:58:30.000 No one believes it anymore.

00:58:33.000 And so there is this realignment, and you're living through the realignment.

00:58:37.000 You can call it the fourth turning or whatever you want to call it, which is a great book that was written a long time ago that I think articulates what we're living through.

00:58:44.000 But their ideas are so bad.

00:58:46.000 They're so dangerous.

00:58:48.000 And I think for just even a somewhat rational person, Bill Maher, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, is that you're going to see, in my opinion, the great defection.

00:58:56.000 And it's because we have to just do it every day.

00:58:59.000 We got to what you call it, do the work, right?

00:59:01.000 Yeah, do the work.

00:59:02.000 You got to do the work.

00:59:03.000 And that requires daily radio shows, daily podcasting, daily tweets.

00:59:08.000 It feels as if it's just like monotonous, right?

00:59:10.000 Like how long?

00:59:10.000 You got to keep doing it.

00:59:12.000 You have to continue to push forward.

00:59:14.000 You got to keep on consuming the information.

00:59:16.000 Because Elon's transformation from a non-political neutral observer could largely be attributed not to CNN, not to Fox News, not to Tucker, but a satire side of the name Babylon B. That's right.

00:59:27.000 That a random satire site that he started to see, like, this is hilarious.

00:59:32.000 Is this stuff really?

00:59:33.000 Is this true or not?

00:59:34.000 The best satire is when you can't find, you can't determine if it's true when you first read it.

00:59:39.000 And they red-pilled the world's richest man.

00:59:41.000 And so that's part of the hope that we have is that we just have to flip a couple of pieces on the chessboard.

00:59:47.000 We do that, this whole thing gets realigned almost overnight.

00:59:50.000 I'll give you some backup too, because what he's talking about, you know, we get the schools, we get some schools, you get the things start going.

00:59:57.000 Here's the way that this S actually works.

00:59:59.000 I want to give you, and I'm going to say a word that you're not supposed to say from the stage except in a very negative light here in a second, so brace yourselves.

01:00:06.000 But as it turns out, you can imagine how this ESG score goes from corporate management universe to you management universe very easily.

01:00:13.000 So let's say that there's some bank, I don't know, like MasterCard, for example, or whatever, and you have a credit card with them and you have lending with them or you have credit with them, et cetera.

01:00:21.000 And right now, you think, well, it's money.

01:00:24.000 Who cares what my beliefs are or whatever?

01:00:26.000 But eventually, what can happen is MasterCard's ESG score goes down by serving you if you have the wrong politics.

01:00:32.000 So all of a sudden, MasterCard starts enforcing whether or not you can be a client of MasterCard if they'll process your payments.

01:00:38.000 And Visa could jump on, American Express could jump on, and Discover could jump on.

01:00:42.000 And all of a sudden, you are stuck because nobody will process your payments.

01:00:46.000 You can't buy things if they won't process the payment for you.

01:00:50.000 And so they can bring this ESG score to you.

01:00:52.000 Well, how do we know if MasterCard should keep you or not?

01:00:55.000 Well, we'll give you a personal ESG score.

01:00:57.000 And if your ESG score, aka social credit score is good, then MasterCard will process your payments.

01:01:01.000 And if it's not, then it'll pause them or freeze them or it won't.

01:01:04.000 And so then it can bring a social credit score to you, which brings a complete control mechanism.

01:01:09.000 Now, you've been warned, and here comes the word: everybody brace yourself, gird your loins, as it were.

01:01:13.000 That's a pun you don't know that's coming yet.

01:01:15.000 The porn stars told you this was coming, and you didn't listen because you were not a porn star, so you did not speak out.

01:01:21.000 They stopped processing porn stars' payments a number of years ago, MasterCard specifically did, because they didn't like what they were doing with their professional career.

01:01:29.000 Now, think what you want of pornography.

01:01:31.000 They de-platformed Alex Jones, for example, oh, and President Trump.

01:01:35.000 That was political.

01:01:36.000 It's similar.

01:01:36.000 It's in fact the same.

01:01:38.000 I'm not defending porn or porn stars.

01:01:40.000 I'm saying that there's a principle here that nobody stood up for that a corporation could say, We don't like the way you behave, so we're going to deplatform your ability to get your cake.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:50.000 We won't bake your cake.

01:01:51.000 I fully support not transacting porn stars, suppose. 0.95

01:01:54.000 I'm just saying that whatever you think of that particular issue, whatever you think of that particular issue, it sets the stage and the justification for them to limit anybody for something on down the line, especially when you're in a movement that's based on, like we've already discussed, blurring out discernment.

01:02:12.000 You don't know, they get to decide what's good and bad.

01:02:15.000 So you may agree, let's block out porn star transactions, maybe for porn specifically, maybe in general.

01:02:22.000 I don't know.

01:02:23.000 But it's somewhere down the line.

01:02:25.000 If you put absolutely no limiting principles in there, it's you voted for the orange man, so therefore we're going to block out your transition.

01:02:31.000 So we've seen this coming.

01:02:33.000 They were warning about it.

01:02:35.000 Whether you agree or not, the point is not about that.

01:02:37.000 The point is a social credit system that controls your ability to buy and sell, which maybe you should read your book of Revelation, is, I mean, I read it.

01:02:47.000 I did.

01:02:50.000 I bothered.

01:02:53.000 I made it, Klauschwab, I mean, V will control your buying and selling.

01:02:57.000 I wasn't kidding.

01:02:58.000 This social credit system can be moved to the personal, and the point is to control you.

01:03:02.000 And I want to go deep.

01:03:03.000 I know we're at the time, but I want to go deep because this was in the Marxist literature 65 years ago when Herbert Marcuse was writing the essay on liberation.

01:03:14.000 He explained four chapters to that.

01:03:18.000 Chapter one, a biological foundation for socialism.

01:03:22.000 Explains why we need to change man at the biological level to make him suitable to socialism.

01:03:28.000 Chapter two, a new sensibility.

01:03:30.000 Chapter three, transitioning forces.

01:03:34.000 Chapter four, solidarity.

01:03:38.000 Those first two matter.

01:03:39.000 The goal is to create a biological foundation for socialism, to change man, just like I just told you is the theology of Marxism, to accept socialism, to become social man who lives in social society.

01:03:50.000 Chapter two is a new sensibility.

01:03:52.000 How is it accomplished?

01:03:54.000 Marcuse says, being a Marxist, that the social conditions make man.

01:03:58.000 Society makes man.

01:03:59.000 I didn't make this up.

01:04:00.000 He says that.

01:04:01.000 He says, in fact, that society introjects morals that make man's vital needs.

01:04:06.000 They define for man vital needs.

01:04:07.000 So if you were to introject other morals, force people to participate in other moral codes, say through an ESG social credit score, that if you behave wrong, then you're punished.

01:04:19.000 Through an algorithm that conditions what you're allowed to see, through deplatforming algorithms that take you away from your ability to communicate if you don't act the way, they can put a new moral system, a new morality, he says, a new rationality, he says, a new sensibility, he says, and introject it into the person until it changes him at a biological level to be made not just suitable for socialism, but to where he can't live without it.

01:04:46.000 That's the goal.

01:04:48.000 That's what the social credit system at the end of the ESG rainbow is meant to accomplish.

01:04:54.000 To condition you to the point where you can't function, so you buy into the system until you live the morals, the equity program in the E and the DEI in the S score, until they become so natural to you that they're spontaneous and you don't know any other way to live.

01:05:12.000 It's exactly the Marxist theology incarnate.

01:05:18.000 That's what this is about.

01:05:20.000 A system of total control to remake you for their sustainable.

01:05:26.000 They put the sus in sustainable, I say.

01:05:30.000 Very sus.

01:05:31.000 That's the kids.

01:05:31.000 Ask your kids what sus means.

01:05:33.000 Charlie knows.

01:05:34.000 I know.

01:05:36.000 That's the goal.

01:05:37.000 That's the objective, to remake you or to make you absolutely unable to participate in society and thus irrelevant until you expire on some minimal program that they allow you to have for justice until a new morality is established so that people can't live without it.

01:05:54.000 Klaus Schwab says explicitly when he's talking about ESG and Secret Narrative, he says explicitly that the government and the corporations will partner in a public-private partnership to enforce it from the top down.

01:06:07.000 And meanwhile, the young people will be raised to need it and they will demand it from the bottom up.

01:06:14.000 Did we not talk about top-down, bottom-up, inside-out this morning?

01:06:18.000 Of course we did.

01:06:20.000 No BS.

01:06:21.000 We're telling you what's going on in the world, why it's going on in the world and how it's going on in the world.

01:06:25.000 So how do you resist it?

01:06:26.000 They want to introduce a new morality and interject it into you.

01:06:29.000 Whatever tools ESG, corrupted schools, et cetera, they're using to do it, you make alternatives to that.

01:06:35.000 That's how.

01:06:36.000 That's how.

01:06:37.000 Charlie, wrap it up and give us a charge. 0.88

01:06:41.000 So a couple of charges.

01:06:42.000 All this seems overwhelming and intimidating.

01:06:44.000 When you read the Great Reset, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:06:48.000 America will no longer be the world's superpower.

01:06:50.000 Western values will be brought to a breaking point.

01:06:51.000 There's some other goofier ones on there, but everyone will be going to Mars and lots of refugees and all that stuff. 1.00

01:06:56.000 But those are the three that we could focus on.

01:06:58.000 Look, all of you, here's the cool thing.

01:06:59.000 Here's the message of empowerment: today and tonight, many of you have to make a decision.

01:07:04.000 Some of you already have is that I'm going to embrace self-government.

01:07:07.000 Is that I am going to be able to sustain myself and my family, regardless of what they do to me.

01:07:13.000 Don't be taken by surprise.

01:07:14.000 And yes, that goes from food.

01:07:16.000 That goes from your ability to protect yourself physically, be able to transport yourself.

01:07:20.000 You have to embrace self-government.

01:07:22.000 You've got to get back to local communities, strong churches, strong families.

01:07:26.000 Empower yourself.

01:07:28.000 And that will make you a happier, more joyful warrior.

01:07:32.000 I mean, for me personally, it's like, okay, we're already divested from MasterCard.

01:07:35.000 For example, we don't use any of the big banks at Turning Point USA.

01:07:38.000 We're smarter than that.

01:07:39.000 Our COO got canceled by Bank of America for wrongthink.

01:07:42.000 It's going to happen to all of you.

01:07:44.000 Stop using the big banks.

01:07:45.000 Go find the local ones.

01:07:46.000 Go find a credit union where you can look at them in the eyes and keep your money there.

01:07:49.000 They will take your money and freeze your accounts soon, if that happens.

01:07:53.000 If you run a business, you're especially at risk.

01:07:56.000 They could make it, or you can't do payroll, freeze all your money because you made a contribution to Blake Masters for Senate or because you supported Donald Trump or whatever.

01:08:05.000 And so you have to embrace self-government in every form or fashion.

01:08:09.000 That goes from the education of your children to the ideas that you consume to where you go to church to all these things are so incredibly important.

01:08:16.000 And our founding fathers wrote extensively about that.

01:08:20.000 And then I just want to reinforce a couple things, which is don't underestimate the power of philosophy and ideas.

01:08:25.000 Learn something new every single day.

01:08:27.000 And this is why I'm a big fan of Hillsdale.

01:08:29.000 Please take their Hillsdale online courses.

01:08:31.000 They're amazing.

01:08:32.000 You guys can go to our partnership website.

01:08:34.000 It's charlieforhillsdale.com.

01:08:36.000 I'm on the radio three hours a day here in the Valley, 9 to 10 on AM 960, and then in the evening from 6 to 8 on AM 960.

01:08:43.000 And we're always trying to teach you something because I've been taught so much by two, you know, amazing, these two amazing people on stage and people like them.

01:08:50.000 I think informed grassroots citizens is the greatest weapon against the left.

01:08:55.000 We do three podcasts a day.

01:08:56.000 If you guys want to subscribe, it helps us out a lot.

01:08:58.000 But beyond that, find things where you're learning and you're constantly being challenged.

01:09:02.000 And you might disagree with what's being told, but at least you have a good argument and response.

01:09:06.000 That will make you a sharper citizen against the regime.

01:09:11.000 You could be a serf, you could be a slave, you could be a subject, or you could decide to be a citizen.

01:09:15.000 And the final thing is that I'll say with this, a lot of you came here probably and you're like, Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.

01:09:23.000 Okay?

01:09:23.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

01:09:26.000 I bought the pillow.

01:09:29.000 Like, I have a closet full of relief factor.

01:09:33.000 I reverse mortgaged my home.

01:09:35.000 I have more gold than I know what to do with.

01:09:36.000 I bought that weird chair that goes up the stairs.

01:09:38.000 Charlie, what else can I do?

01:09:40.000 There's only so many Trump coins I could give my friends.

01:09:44.000 And the answer is no longer be a spectator, but be a participant in this fight.

01:09:49.000 It's the man in the arena that counts.

01:09:51.000 Build new stuff.

01:09:52.000 And if you can't build new stuff, support the people that are building new stuff.

01:09:55.000 And what do I mean by that?

01:09:56.000 Businesses, nonprofits, churches, communities.

01:10:00.000 There's the fighters and the people that help the fighters.

01:10:02.000 Okay?

01:10:03.000 You could be a Washington or you could be a Hancock.

01:10:06.000 Hancock, despite his big signature, never wore the uniform of the Continental Army.

01:10:09.000 He financed it, though.

01:10:10.000 He supported it.

01:10:11.000 He was like a logistics manager.

01:10:13.000 There were no supply chain issues back then.

01:10:14.000 He knew what he was doing.

01:10:15.000 But Washington was on the front line.

01:10:16.000 Some of you are going to be called to the front lines.

01:10:18.000 Run for office.

01:10:19.000 Run for school board.

01:10:20.000 Do all those things.

01:10:20.000 Some of you, that's probably overly intimidating.

01:10:22.000 It's not an excuse not to be involved.

01:10:24.000 Pray for your leaders.

01:10:25.000 Find the warriors.

01:10:26.000 Pray for James.

01:10:26.000 Pray for sovereign nations.

01:10:28.000 You pray for this work that's happening and you actively help them.

01:10:31.000 What I'm getting at is it's going to take all of us.

01:10:33.000 And I can tell you right now, the people in charge, they are the angriest winners that I've ever seen.

01:10:38.000 They're the most paranoid winners in the history of the planet.

01:10:41.000 It's because they can start to feel the ground that they're standing on trembling.

01:10:45.000 And it's trembling because the citizen is starting to rise to challenge their power and kick them out once and for all.

01:10:51.000 And that's your marching order here for tonight.

01:10:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, would you please thank Charlie Kirk and James Lindsey?

01:11:05.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:11:06.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:11:09.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:11:10.000 God bless.

01:11:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 18, 2022

The Theology of Marxism with Dr. James Lindsay

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