The Charlie Kirk Show - The Third World Comes To America; America Becomes Third World? with Savanah Hernandez and Randy Clark

00:00:00.000 I'm Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.

00:00:02.000 And in this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, we speak to Savannah Hernandez from the border live from El Paso, Texas.

00:00:10.000 Randy Clark, who is part of our Cartel Chronicles team at Breitbart News, gives expert analysis of the opening of the U.S.'s southern border.

00:00:19.000 He has over 30 years of Border Patrol experience.

00:00:23.000 I think the producers were describing him as based but factual.

00:00:26.000 I think that's exactly right.

00:00:28.000 Really valuable stuff, plus some more news updates for you from me.

00:00:32.000 Everyone, buckle up, because here we go.

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00:01:18.000 Okay, well, we got a lot to get to in the news.

00:01:21.000 And let's play this clip I was meaning to play.

00:01:24.000 Anyway, cut 134 Alejandro Mayorkas from his press conference just now.

00:01:29.000 Let's go.

00:01:30.000 What's the rough cost to American taxpayers since the roughly 4 million people have come into this country illegally since January of 2021 as those people show up at community hospitals as they enter the school system, as they get other government help?

00:01:43.000 Do you have a taxpayer cost?

00:01:45.000 Let me turn that question around a little bit because I'm going to turn it around to match the question that an international partner asked of me.

00:01:55.000 And the question that the international partner asked of me is, what is the economic cost of your broken immigration system?

00:02:03.000 Since there are businesses around this country that are desperate for workers.

00:02:10.000 Yeah, so this is all about economic migration and he wants to import people because the businesses are desperate.

00:02:16.000 Well, you know who's not desperate?

00:02:17.000 You who's not desperate is the American people who are having their wages undercut, seeing their rents go up, seeing their cost of living go up, seeing all sorts of drugs and crime being imported into their communities, all because Alejandro Mayorkas wants to use his power at the Department of Homeland Security to try to take care of people who are not Americans.

00:02:38.000 That is not his mandate.

00:02:40.000 I'm all for taking care of un-Americans, non-Americans, in your free time with your extra dollars that you get to keep, what few dollars Joe Biden lets you keep. 1.00

00:02:50.000 I give to charity every year and I always give some amount to international charities to try to feed people and help people who are the least among us globally.

00:02:59.000 I understand that that is a noble pursuit.

00:03:02.000 Everyone should do that.

00:03:03.000 That is not the role of the U.S. government and that is not the mandate of the Department of Homeland Security to try to make it easier for people to economically migrate in order to undercut American working and middle class and lower classes and at the benefit of the globalist establishment that wants to see America's borders broken down and wants to see their stocks maybe go up a little bit because they could save a little bit on the wages they pay their workforce.

00:03:31.000 That is why we have such a big gap between the rich and the poor, something that was such a common refrain from the Democrats over the last 20 or 30 years.

00:03:39.000 They stopped talking about that a little bit.

00:03:41.000 Why?

00:03:42.000 Because they're the ones who create it with these types of policies.

00:03:46.000 He completely blows through the cost of the American taxpayers.

00:03:49.000 We have to fund this system.

00:03:51.000 $15 billion, whatever it would cost, get the border wall up, and it would save us so much money.

00:03:56.000 And yet we had to shut down the government specifically because, in whatever it was, 10 years or so ago, specifically because Trump won a $5 billion for border wall.

00:04:09.000 This guy is a true ideologue.

00:04:11.000 And I don't think everyone in the Biden administration is as ideological as my workers.

00:04:16.000 I think he is particularly driven by a vision that America is not a good place and it would benefit from importing as many people from around the world as humanly possible.

00:04:27.000 I think that's on full display there.

00:04:29.000 Americans are not even a consideration. 0.99

00:04:31.000 What is owed to the migrants, the economic migrants, is his priority.

00:04:37.000 And he's not going to unlearn this.

00:04:38.000 There's no amount of tough questioning that's going to get through to him.

00:04:41.000 This is not a political issue for him.

00:04:43.000 This is an ideological issue.

00:04:45.000 It's a dogma.

00:04:47.000 Cut 135, please.

00:04:49.000 Go.

00:04:50.000 We sought to end Title 42, the Public Health Authority, earlier.

00:04:55.000 We sought to roll out our immigration enforcement authorities under Title VIII of the United States Code earlier.

00:05:02.000 We were enjoined from doing so by a court.

00:05:05.000 We promulgated a law to achieve a policy and operational outcome.

00:05:11.000 And the outcome that we seek to achieve through this regulation is to incentivize people to take the lawful pathways and disincentivize them to place their lives in the hands of ruthless smugglers.

00:05:25.000 But their lives are in the hands of ruthless smugglers.

00:05:27.000 That's the whole system that's been designed.

00:05:29.000 And the Democrats have been okay with this since as long as we can remember.

00:05:36.000 Every time America does not step up and enforce our own borders, it sends a signal to the cartels, the most brutal criminal organizations imaginable, some of the worst in the world, to refine their pipelines to smuggle human beings into our country.

00:05:52.000 And then when they get here, then they will be paying the cartels money for as long as the cartels demand it.

00:06:00.000 That is how they fund this business. 0.99

00:06:02.000 And along the way, they're going to be sexually assaulted if they're women, invariably. 1.00

00:06:07.000 They're going to be asked to smuggle things like drugs, for example. 0.99

00:06:12.000 A lot of these drugs will kill Americans.

00:06:15.000 People aren't just wandering up to the border.

00:06:17.000 There is a network of criminals that make it possible.

00:06:21.000 And there's as many as 700,000 right now who are waiting to get in when Title 42 ends at the end of the night.

00:06:29.000 He is subordinating American citizens to the world community, the international community.

00:06:38.000 So I think if there's one person who should be impeached in this administration, it's Majorkis.

00:06:43.000 He's number one.

00:06:44.000 And he's the biggest threat because he controls arguably the most important thing.

00:06:48.000 And he's so locked in on it.

00:06:51.000 He's locked in.

00:06:52.000 He's not going anywhere from this viewpoint.

00:06:56.000 There's no dissuading him of this.

00:06:57.000 There's no amount of flood that's going to dissuade him.

00:07:00.000 The only thing where he could really mess up here is if things get too out of control, and they very well might, then the Biden administration might need to step up some enforcement efforts.

00:07:10.000 But the chain here is not going to be good.

00:07:13.000 We're going to see people come in.

00:07:14.000 They're going to get notices to appear in court.

00:07:16.000 They're not going to get deported.

00:07:18.000 And they're going to get fanned out around the country.

00:07:21.000 And those communities are going to have to absorb them.

00:07:23.000 And they shouldn't have to.

00:07:24.000 They shouldn't have to.

00:07:25.000 No other sane country, who's to say we're sane.

00:07:29.000 No other sane country treats themselves this way.

00:07:31.000 And we're on the brink of something really big, perhaps historic.

00:07:35.000 It already is historic.

00:07:36.000 I mean, we saw record levels of illegal immigration last year and record numbers the year before.

00:07:41.000 It is such a broken record on this.

00:07:43.000 Those of you who listen to my radio show on Breitbart News or cover our coverage of Breitbart, what's frustrating is that there's so few new ways to present these facts.

00:07:56.000 This is why we're going to hear from Savannah in a little bit, who's at the border, Randy Clark from my team, our Carteau Chronicles team at Breitbart, who's also at the border.

00:08:03.000 Bill Melugin at Fox has great reporting on this.

00:08:05.000 There's other people who are out there.

00:08:06.000 So many people are now pointing cameras.

00:08:08.000 But where is that getting us?

00:08:10.000 We've got the most ideological guy in the administration basically keeping the border open.

00:08:15.000 And it's going to be like the beginning of the Kentucky Derby where they open up the green gates and all of a sudden all the horses just start steaming in.

00:08:27.000 That's what's going to start happening at midnight tonight.

00:08:29.000 That's what we're going to see.

00:08:31.000 It's going to be game on if it already wasn't game on.

00:08:33.000 We're seeing 10,000 people enter a month anyway.

00:08:38.000 So this is a potentially one of the most historic days in the history of the country.

00:08:44.000 I don't tend to tease things that dramatically.

00:08:47.000 I try to be more staid when I can.

00:08:50.000 But this is really an unbelievable thing that we're watching a guy do his best to keep the border open.

00:08:58.000 And then whenever he gets called on it, what does he do?

00:09:00.000 He acts like it's Congress's fault.

00:09:01.000 It's the Congress who really should have done something.

00:09:04.000 He could do some stuff today.

00:09:06.000 And Joe Biden, he can encourage his boss to do stuff today, restore those northern tribal agreements, restore remain in Mexico, finish the dang wall.

00:09:13.000 All of these would make America a safer place and a better place for rank and file Americans, American voters, and the American citizens.

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00:10:27.000 Savannah Hernandez is on with me, TPUSA Frontlines Reporter Extraordinaire from the border.

00:10:32.000 Savannah, great to meet you.

00:10:34.000 Where are you right now exactly?

00:10:36.000 I am currently in El Paso, Texas, on the American side of the border.

00:10:40.000 And what you are seeing behind me is the wall that is, again, protecting us from all of the illegal crosswords from water to Mexico.

00:10:48.000 Okay, so you're right there.

00:10:49.000 I'm seeing some border barrier behind you.

00:10:51.000 Is that one of the ones with the big gaps within the barrier where people can just kind of funnel through right there?

00:10:57.000 Those border gaps you see all the time.

00:11:00.000 So there aren't really border gaps in this area, but what I want people to understand about the way that this is set up is that the wall in El Paso is basically set up at the edge of the city, but there is a bunch of federal land on the other side.

00:11:13.000 So those migrants are still very easily to cross over from Mexico into the United States.

00:11:19.000 And then once they're in the United States, they're getting processed.

00:11:22.000 We just can't see it as easily because it's on the other side of this wall that Border Patrol will not allow us to go past.

00:11:27.000 So El Paso is getting overwhelmed.

00:11:29.000 All their shelters, they're calling it one of the biggest humanitarian crises that we've ever seen.

00:11:35.000 What are you seeing on a humanitarian level?

00:11:37.000 Because the footage has just been unbelievable in terms of trash, in terms of people coming up that are just clearly just worn down, filthy.

00:11:45.000 They've been through hell trying to get here because they think they can get in and stay here.

00:11:49.000 This seems to be a narrative the left is missing.

00:11:53.000 Absolutely.

00:11:54.000 When I got here on Tuesday, that's exactly what the scene was.

00:11:58.000 When you walk the streets of downtown El Paso, you would see piles of trash boxes of opened, uneaten food that were attracting a lot of animals.

00:12:06.000 There were unused clothing on the ground.

00:12:08.000 The streets reek of urine, and there are human feces just scattered throughout downtown.

00:12:12.000 So it is not a clean environment at all.

00:12:15.000 Now, very interesting thing that happened yesterday morning, you know, what, one day ahead of the expiration of Title 42, the city of El Paso actually brought in environmental services and they went and they cleaned up those streets that we have seen thousands of migrants sleeping on over the past couple of weeks.

00:12:30.000 And I was actually speaking to a local officer who shared with me that this was very similar to what happened when Joe Biden came to El Paso back in January to check out the border crisis.

00:12:40.000 The city cleaned up the streets, the migrants were transferred to shelters, and it looked like there was really no crisis at all.

00:12:46.000 So the officers saying that mirrored the same cleanup operation.

00:12:49.000 And then add to that, the church volunteers where this cleanup was happening were sharing that this was the first time since the migrants arrived two weeks ago that the city has really come and done a full sweep like that.

00:13:00.000 Wow.

00:13:01.000 So one thing that's noteworthy here, and this is a big change from perhaps what we saw a little bit more in 2015, 2016, when this migrant surges were front and center in the news, is that there's now, even where there is wall, the enforcement is so lax.

00:13:18.000 And now with Title 42 coming off, there's such a high confidence level that you'll get one of these notices to appear NTAs and people will be able to just get released into the country to do as they please for a few years until their hearing comes up.

00:13:31.000 It seems like a lot of people want to get at least vaguely processed.

00:13:35.000 We're barely processing them, but at least, hey, I'm here.

00:13:38.000 Give me my notes to appear.

00:13:39.000 And then I'm in.

00:13:40.000 Is that what you're seeing?

00:13:43.000 Absolutely.

00:13:44.000 So when I got here on Tuesday, this entire processing operation was going on where Border Patrol was going up to migrants and they were checking to see if they had notice to appear papers.

00:13:54.000 And they said, hey, you need to go get processed, go turn yourself in, go get your documentation.

00:13:58.000 So that way you can be, you know, brought into a shelter and that way we can give you food.

00:14:03.000 Now, I have spoken to a couple of these migrants that have gotten their documentation.

00:14:06.000 One migrant already previously deported four times.

00:14:10.000 Another woman I spoke to yesterday from Ecuador, her notice to appear date isn't until April of 2027.

00:14:17.000 By the way, her husband is currently in Juarez and he is waiting for Title 42 to expire because he did get deported as well.

00:14:25.000 So again, when they get those notice to appear papers, they can legally stay in the U.S. until that court date.

00:14:30.000 And we are seeing dates two to five years out.

00:14:33.000 So this essentially is a gigantic massive, you know, catch and release protocol.

00:14:38.000 By the way, Border Patrol being very protective over the airspace here.

00:14:43.000 We were able to fly our drone yesterday and we saw hundreds of groups of migrants coming in from Juarez.

00:14:47.000 Today, Border Patrol only allowed us to fly drones from the hour of 10 a.m. to 11 a.m.

00:14:52.000 That is the only time they're allowing media to fly drones today.

00:14:55.000 Well, at least it lets you fly them for a little bit.

00:14:58.000 It's the, have you spoken to any of the officers?

00:15:00.000 Because whenever I'm down there and I speak to the people on the ground, they find this incredibly demoralizing, what they're asked to do by our bureaucrats in Washington.

00:15:09.000 Absolutely.

00:15:10.000 You know, I have covered the border crisis from Arizona all throughout Texas, and I've spoken to Border Patrol who have told me, I feel like I'm basically an Uber for the illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:15:18.000 A lot of the people coming over are extremely entitled and they won't even walk all the way, you know, to the processing facility.

00:15:24.000 They will wait for Border Patrol to come pick them up in their vehicles because they don't want to walk anymore.

00:15:28.000 They're demanding food.

00:15:29.000 They're demanding services.

00:15:30.000 Border Patrol completely overwhelmed.

00:15:32.000 They don't feel supported by the current administration in office.

00:15:36.000 And then on top of that, you know, they're not even allowed to enforce any laws or do their jobs, essentially.

00:15:42.000 Yeah, their jobs now, I guess, is to just be some sort of a chauffeur or paper pusher, which was never the point.

00:15:47.000 It was about enforcing laws.

00:15:48.000 There's plenty on the books, despite Title 42 expiring.

00:15:52.000 Savannah Hernandez, wonderful reporting.

00:15:52.000 Sad stuff.

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00:18:54.000 We have a great guest on the line, Randy Clark, who's part of one of the most important things we do at Breitbart, which is our Cartel Chronicles division, where we track both sides of the border.

00:19:04.000 We report in both English and Spanish.

00:19:06.000 We're trying to reach people outside of necessarily the conservative media bubble.

00:19:11.000 Of course, we love reaching the conservative media bubble too, no disrespect.

00:19:14.000 But it is something that we do where we're trying to get the word out, not just about the lax enforcement at our border and the effects for Americans, but also the humanitarian issues that really we are importing here from all around the world.

00:19:28.000 Let's start there with you, Randy.

00:19:30.000 Randy, thanks for being here.

00:19:32.000 Let me ask you on a broader context.

00:19:34.000 When you look at the way we're treating our border now, where we treat it like it doesn't make a difference, what are the downstream effects for human beings who are now compelled to try to make the journey into America thinking they can get in?

00:19:48.000 What do they have in store for them?

00:19:50.000 Who are they dealing with?

00:19:52.000 And who's getting rich off of this process?

00:19:54.000 Well, right now, this is a much different demographic than we've seen come into the United States traditionally in years past.

00:20:01.000 And that includes even last year, because what we're seeing camped out on the banks of the Rio Grande and in the larger cities around San Diego and Tucson on the Mexican side is really the poorest of the poor.

00:20:12.000 They're living in shanty towns that they've constructed with tarps and materials that they find. 0.99

00:20:17.000 And you see the effects of that when you hear how it's pinching New York.

00:20:21.000 These folks don't have any support systems.

00:20:23.000 They don't have relatives, friends.

00:20:25.000 They don't have anybody to go to to begin a process of trying to normalize life in the United States, which I think we can all admit that with inflation and cost of living and rent in multiple areas of the country, it's not cheap to live in the United States.

00:20:39.000 Well, imagine trying to do that as a brand new person in a new culturally different place with no support structure.

00:20:45.000 These folks are going to be public charges.

00:20:47.000 So what they're going to face is what many are facing in El Paso.

00:20:51.000 The more than 2,000 we've seen, in fact, I visited a week ago that are camped out on the streets of El Paso because they have no funds to leave.

00:21:00.000 They're basically trapped.

00:21:01.000 And until a municipality or the federal government pays their way somewhere else where they're not wanted, really, even in the sanctuary cities of New York and Chicago, they've got no place to go.

00:21:12.000 So this is going to be a rough ride for them, too.

00:21:14.000 It seems like it's just game on for the cartels.

00:21:17.000 It's game on for the people in the fentanyl business.

00:21:19.000 It's game on for the people in the human smuggling business.

00:21:22.000 I mean, this is Christmas Eve for them, is it not?

00:21:26.000 Well, it is in a number of ways.

00:21:29.000 You know, it's hard to get blood out of a turnip.

00:21:30.000 So for those that don't have a support structure, they might be, you know, forced to indentured servitude or some mechanism of pain later.

00:21:39.000 But that's not really what the cartel is into on a large scale.

00:21:42.000 Where the cartel is going to really make their money is those that are going to be most susceptible to return under Title VIII.

00:21:50.000 That might be folks from Mexico and the Northern Triangle that may face some level of return.

00:21:55.000 But for the rest, the cartel is just having a holiday knowing that every single law enforcement from the Texas Department of Ohio Patrol, state troopers in other states, and the border patrol are going to be relegated to trying to stop this mad rush of migrants over the border and then to provide the humanitarian care because they're not all in the best of health.

00:22:13.000 They've been living for months in rudimentary camps without health care.

00:22:17.000 They're of all ages and they have the same ailments you'd find in a cross-section of population in the United States, diabetes and other serious health ailments.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:28.000 And the point that they're public charges is a big deal is that there shouldn't the standard be, Randy, unless we're absolutely desperate that people coming in are immediately going to be contributors to the system.

00:22:41.000 Why are we encouraging people to come in who are immediately going to go in the public doll when we've got a massive debt and deficit that we're debating on right now?

00:22:48.000 We're debating about the size of the debt in Washington right now.

00:22:52.000 In the meantime, we're going to import all these people who are going to cost us a fortune. 0.98

00:22:57.000 Well, so the intent of Congress in our immigration laws, in fact, if you've heard the mention of expedited removal, that came from the 1996 Act.

00:23:07.000 And that 1996 act, it stiffened penalties for illegal entry, including the public charge measure.

00:23:13.000 And the public charge measure says if you're going to get sponsored into the United States, that sponsor is vouching that you are not going to become a public charge.

00:23:20.000 Well, this administration, like many of the other immigration laws, they're ignoring that.

00:23:25.000 They know these people have no funds to come in.

00:23:28.000 They know they're removable just based on the fact that they're a public charge.

00:23:33.000 So they're entirely skirting the intent of Congress.

00:23:37.000 And that bill was passed in 1996 when Bill Clinton was still the president.

00:23:40.000 These folks have done a complete 180.

00:23:43.000 Randy, you've over three decades of law enforcement experience at the border.

00:23:47.000 First, tell us a little bit about that and tell us the experience of what you think the men and women on the ground are going through right now and their families.

00:23:53.000 My heart always breaks for their families because they're being put into harm's way.

00:23:58.000 They're getting taken out of the home.

00:23:59.000 They're not getting paid extra for this stuff.

00:24:01.000 And all of this is entirely unnecessary.

00:24:04.000 Give me some of the humanitarian element from the law enforcement side.

00:24:09.000 Well, so I've spoken to some Border Patrol agents today, and they're 10 hours away from probably one of the biggest immigration catastrophes that we've seen.

00:24:17.000 There isn't a Border Patrol agent living or dead that has witnessed what is happening right now.

00:24:22.000 Some of the busiest traffic we've had on this border is under this, the busiest, is under this administration.

00:24:28.000 These agents are stressed out, but they're not only stressed out because of the level of work that is required of them, but they know that they're failing in their mission because they cannot get out there to stop the folks that might actually cause us harm.

00:24:43.000 And that's a really weighing factor for a law enforcement officer.

00:24:47.000 We had just in the last 72 hours, 7,600 people get away that we don't know who they are.

00:24:55.000 And we saw what 19 people who were intent on causing harm to the United States can do.

00:25:02.000 Who are these 7,000 gotaways in just three days?

00:25:06.000 So imagine what we're looking at since the start of this administration, which is well over a million people went somewhere into the United States with no vetting, whom we have no idea what their intent for coming here was.

00:25:17.000 So this is one of the things that's so frustrating for me, particularly someone who comes from California, where illegal immigration was always just built into the fabric of the state and the culture and the economy by the time I was a sentient being.

00:25:31.000 And it feels like we have no sense of exactly how many illegal aliens are here, that we were told there's like 11 million, but that number has never gone up in 30 years.

00:25:40.000 It's that exact number.

00:25:42.000 But yet, every year, for every person we catch and we're aware of them, there's all these people who make no real connection with the U.S. government.

00:25:52.000 We don't know where they are.

00:25:53.000 They're not being tracked.

00:25:55.000 And if they are being tracked, we don't know how long they're going to be here or if they're showing up for their court dates.

00:26:00.000 Do you have any sense of exactly how many illegal aliens there are at this point?

00:26:04.000 Well, it should be easier to determine now because what you're speaking of, you know, in the 1980s when there were the last large influx, a million point eight, a million point six rather migrants entered.

00:26:16.000 Most of those were from Mexico.

00:26:17.000 We got the seasonal terminology because many of them came over, worked in the agricultural industry, and then they went back after a season, made home repairs, took supplies home, and then they did it all over again.

00:26:29.000 And a lot of those were multiple entries because we didn't have biographic data at the time, the ability to take biometric data.

00:26:36.000 So we don't know if someone was caught five times, 10 times, or 20.

00:26:40.000 We know now who's coming, and we also know that these folks predominantly will never return to their home country.

00:26:46.000 The folks that this administration are releasing into the streets, the Venezuelans, the Cubans, the Haitians, the Nicaraguans, they're not going back to their home country.

00:26:57.000 They have no intention.

00:26:58.000 So we should have an easier way of knowing how many we've let in during this administration.

00:27:03.000 For the others that are from Mexico that go back and forth, that's a little bit harder, but I can tell you the same thing.

00:27:08.000 I've heard that 11, 12 million number tossed around for decades, and it never changes, like you say.

00:27:14.000 So I don't think anybody cares to count.

00:27:17.000 That's right.

00:27:17.000 Randy Clark is with me from Breitbart's Cartel Chronicles.

00:27:21.000 He is a veteran of border law enforcement.

00:27:25.000 Randy, I want to ask about Alejandro Mayorkas' claims.

00:27:30.000 He's got a couple of crucial ones.

00:27:32.000 First of all, that the border is secure.

00:27:33.000 I want you to evaluate that.

00:27:35.000 And then I want you to evaluate where he says that if there are problems, it's basically on Congress.

00:27:39.000 Who do you think bears the brunt of the blame?

00:27:41.000 And let's start with, is the border actually secure?

00:27:46.000 No, I think anybody that has watched some level of media and been on the ground in and around or border residents, whether they're Democrats, Republicans, or Independents, they're going to tell you right now, the border's not secure.

00:27:58.000 I think when you see the chief of the Border Patrol get in front of Congress and he's under oath, he's going to tell you the border does not meet the definition of under operational control.

00:28:08.000 He knows that.

00:28:09.000 So does every rank and file border patrol agent.

00:28:11.000 And their hair stands up every time they hear, you know, Alejandro Majorca say the border is secure or the border is closed.

00:28:18.000 He did that during the Haitian migrant crisis in Del Rio when there were 20,000, mostly Haitian migrants camped out on U.S. soil in Del Rio, and the agency could do nothing about it because they were overwhelmed.

00:28:30.000 Well, we're going to see that again.

00:28:32.000 But I try to be as respectful as I can to somebody based upon, you know, they're another human being.

00:28:39.000 But at one point, you just have to call out absolute fabrication of the truth.

00:28:44.000 He talks about creating legal pathways.

00:28:47.000 Well, they're not creating legal pathways.

00:28:49.000 What they're doing is they are using surreptitious legal loopholes to let folks in who have not qualified for relief.

00:28:56.000 They're not letting these 100,000 he spoke about from December to now come in because they actually went before an asylum judge or an asylum officer, presented a good quality case and were granted asylum.

00:29:08.000 No, that's not happening.

00:29:09.000 They're taking general biographic data and they're trying to relieve the stress at the rivers and in the deserts of Arizona and in California and they're trying to get them in in the dead of night.

00:29:18.000 That's not a legal pathway.

00:29:20.000 It has no real standard compared to what the law requires to be actually granted relief under our asylum laws, which we know roughly eight out of 10 will not qualify.

00:29:30.000 So I think to believe what's happening, you have to be totally unaware.

00:29:34.000 Yeah, so Randy, so tonight Title 42 comes off.

00:29:38.000 There's going to be a big surge.

00:29:39.000 Is there a chance that it gets so crazy that perhaps the Biden administration is compelled to shut it down?

00:29:46.000 And let's look at it from another angle.

00:29:48.000 Perhaps even the cartels feel like this could be, if this gets too out of control, their business model could get upended.

00:29:54.000 Is there a chance it just gets too chaotic and you might see something unexpected like either of those scenarios?

00:29:59.000 Well, you know, unfortunately, I think in what I've been seeing in the level of preparedness over the last several months, they couldn't shut it down if they wanted to.

00:30:10.000 They're making open-ended, you know, requests of the migrants to please don't come, that it is secure and not to listen to the cartels.

00:30:17.000 And hey, I don't recommend anybody try and cross into the border illegally.

00:30:21.000 Number one, it's dangerous.

00:30:22.000 These cartels don't care about people.

00:30:24.000 And, you know, you're just risking life.

00:30:26.000 So I don't recommend it, but these people have been camped out and they've been waiting for this date and they're going to come.

00:30:32.000 We're way too far down that road for this administration without some significant overnight response to get this stopped.

00:30:41.000 And I don't see the willpower.

00:30:42.000 1,500 National Guard or U.S. Army soldiers and Marines, when you split them up amongst the busiest sectors, it's laughable.

00:30:50.000 They're not going to do anything except provide a little bit of relief to Border Patrol agents, providing logistical supplies and some data entry.

00:30:58.000 You know, maybe manifest for transport buses, but they can't process.

00:31:03.000 They don't all know the languages that they're going to encounter.

00:31:06.000 So it's really not going to make a big deal.

00:31:09.000 Yeah, we'll have a big surge of data entry personnel to go down on the border.

00:31:13.000 Sad stuff.

00:31:14.000 Randy Clark, thank you for the terrific reporting.

00:31:16.000 Find him at Breitbart.com.

00:31:21.000 A couple of things I want to mention.

00:31:22.000 One thing that just came out: Turning Points having a big event, Turning Point Action Conference is going to feature Vivek Ramaswamy, Jack Posobic, Charlie, Bannon, Bongino, many more Gates.

00:31:33.000 Let's see, Bernie Marino, who's the leading candidate for Senate in Ohio, Josh Hawley.

00:31:37.000 It looks like it's going to be an all-star group.

00:31:39.000 And good for them for doing that.

00:31:41.000 July 15th and 16th in West Palm Beach.

00:31:44.000 You wouldn't want to be in West Palm Beach, great part of the world.

00:31:47.000 ActCon 2023 is what they're calling it.

00:31:51.000 Some breaking news that took place during the show that I want to share.

00:31:56.000 We learned that CNN did cut short the Trump Town Hall, which is very interesting because we know Trump was having his way with CNN.

00:32:04.000 We know that the audience was well in Trump's corner.

00:32:08.000 The Twitter crowd was going absolutely crazy, apoplectic, that CNN was platforming the bad orange man and letting him not just dunk on them, but also have a great time while he was doing it.

00:32:19.000 We all witnessed this play out, those who are following it online.

00:32:23.000 But we did learn, in fact, that CNN did cut it short, which is noteworthy because you can bet the ratings were through the roof.

00:32:30.000 I'm not sure how quickly they get ratings, if they get them in real time or not, but you can certainly bet that the ratings were the best CNN's had in a while and were definitely cutting into Fox's market share.

00:32:42.000 But it wasn't worth it for them.

00:32:44.000 They deemed it was not worth it to continue, which is noteworthy.

00:32:47.000 I will say there's one, what's the opposite of a silver lining?

00:32:51.000 Is it a brown lining?

00:32:52.000 I think I'm going to go with brown lining to this, which is that this could open the floodgates to the Republicans if there are debates.

00:33:00.000 And it's not to say there will be given how far ahead Trump is running in 2024.

00:33:04.000 But if there are debates, that the mainstream media will probably get them, which I'm vehemently opposed to, despite how well the CNN Town Hall went for Trump.

00:33:12.000 I think the Republicans should debate for their own audiences in the primary, and we go from there for the general.

00:33:19.000 But there's no way you should be giving places like CNN the chance to moderate debates amongst Republicans.

00:33:25.000 But now I think they're going to see this.

00:33:26.000 And I think all the Republicans, you can bet people like Vivek were just sitting there going, like, oh, I wish that was me.

00:33:31.000 I wish that was me getting a dunk on CNN like that.

00:33:33.000 And I think that that's going to be, that could be a bad outcome for Trump's dominant performance.

00:33:41.000 Another one I want to bring up: Alejandro Mayorkas is now on record that the investigation concluded that the whipping did not occur.

00:33:49.000 You guys remember Whipping Gate, where the fake story of how border agents were whipping migrants as they were coming across the Rio Grande.

00:33:59.000 We all knew that was false.

00:34:00.000 And even Alejandro Mayorkas, who is certainly willing to lie whenever it's politically expedient for him, even he had to acknowledge that that one is not true.

00:34:09.000 Last one for now, and maybe the scariest of them all, Hollywood producer Jeffrey Katzenberg has pledged all of the resources Biden will need to win in 2024.

00:34:19.000 Those of you who are students of history know that it was Jeffrey Katzenberg and it was David Geffen who handpicked Barack Obama, anointed him the leader of the Democrat Party over Hillary Clinton in the run-up to the 2008 election.

00:34:31.000 And look at the mess that created for this country.

00:34:34.000 So that is one not to turn your nose up at.

00:34:37.000 Thank you, Charlie Kirk.

00:34:38.000 Thanks, producer Andrew and everyone else.

00:34:40.000 I'm Alex Marlowe.

00:34:41.000 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:34:44.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 12, 2023

The Third World Comes To America; America Becomes Third World? with Savanah Hernandez and Randy Clark

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