00:00:00.000I'm Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
00:00:02.000And in this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, we speak to Savannah Hernandez from the border live from El Paso, Texas.
00:00:10.000Randy Clark, who is part of our Cartel Chronicles team at Breitbart News, gives expert analysis of the opening of the U.S.'s southern border.
00:00:19.000He has over 30 years of Border Patrol experience.
00:00:23.000I think the producers were describing him as based but factual.
00:00:48.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:56.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:30.000What's the rough cost to American taxpayers since the roughly 4 million people have come into this country illegally since January of 2021 as those people show up at community hospitals as they enter the school system, as they get other government help?
00:01:45.000Let me turn that question around a little bit because I'm going to turn it around to match the question that an international partner asked of me.
00:01:55.000And the question that the international partner asked of me is, what is the economic cost of your broken immigration system?
00:02:03.000Since there are businesses around this country that are desperate for workers.
00:02:10.000Yeah, so this is all about economic migration and he wants to import people because the businesses are desperate.
00:02:17.000You who's not desperate is the American people who are having their wages undercut, seeing their rents go up, seeing their cost of living go up, seeing all sorts of drugs and crime being imported into their communities, all because Alejandro Mayorkas wants to use his power at the Department of Homeland Security to try to take care of people who are not Americans.
00:02:40.000I'm all for taking care of un-Americans, non-Americans, in your free time with your extra dollars that you get to keep, what few dollars Joe Biden lets you keep.
00:02:50.000I give to charity every year and I always give some amount to international charities to try to feed people and help people who are the least among us globally.
00:02:59.000I understand that that is a noble pursuit.
00:03:03.000That is not the role of the U.S. government and that is not the mandate of the Department of Homeland Security to try to make it easier for people to economically migrate in order to undercut American working and middle class and lower classes and at the benefit of the globalist establishment that wants to see America's borders broken down and wants to see their stocks maybe go up a little bit because they could save a little bit on the wages they pay their workforce.
00:03:31.000That is why we have such a big gap between the rich and the poor, something that was such a common refrain from the Democrats over the last 20 or 30 years.
00:03:39.000They stopped talking about that a little bit.
00:03:51.000$15 billion, whatever it would cost, get the border wall up, and it would save us so much money.
00:03:56.000And yet we had to shut down the government specifically because, in whatever it was, 10 years or so ago, specifically because Trump won a $5 billion for border wall.
00:04:11.000And I don't think everyone in the Biden administration is as ideological as my workers.
00:04:16.000I think he is particularly driven by a vision that America is not a good place and it would benefit from importing as many people from around the world as humanly possible.
00:04:50.000We sought to end Title 42, the Public Health Authority, earlier.
00:04:55.000We sought to roll out our immigration enforcement authorities under Title VIII of the United States Code earlier.
00:05:02.000We were enjoined from doing so by a court.
00:05:05.000We promulgated a law to achieve a policy and operational outcome.
00:05:11.000And the outcome that we seek to achieve through this regulation is to incentivize people to take the lawful pathways and disincentivize them to place their lives in the hands of ruthless smugglers.
00:05:25.000But their lives are in the hands of ruthless smugglers.
00:05:27.000That's the whole system that's been designed.
00:05:29.000And the Democrats have been okay with this since as long as we can remember.
00:05:36.000Every time America does not step up and enforce our own borders, it sends a signal to the cartels, the most brutal criminal organizations imaginable, some of the worst in the world, to refine their pipelines to smuggle human beings into our country.
00:05:52.000And then when they get here, then they will be paying the cartels money for as long as the cartels demand it.
00:06:57.000There's no amount of flood that's going to dissuade him.
00:07:00.000The only thing where he could really mess up here is if things get too out of control, and they very well might, then the Biden administration might need to step up some enforcement efforts.
00:07:10.000But the chain here is not going to be good.
00:07:43.000Those of you who listen to my radio show on Breitbart News or cover our coverage of Breitbart, what's frustrating is that there's so few new ways to present these facts.
00:07:56.000This is why we're going to hear from Savannah in a little bit, who's at the border, Randy Clark from my team, our Carteau Chronicles team at Breitbart, who's also at the border.
00:08:03.000Bill Melugin at Fox has great reporting on this.
00:08:05.000There's other people who are out there.
00:08:06.000So many people are now pointing cameras.
00:08:10.000We've got the most ideological guy in the administration basically keeping the border open.
00:08:15.000And it's going to be like the beginning of the Kentucky Derby where they open up the green gates and all of a sudden all the horses just start steaming in.
00:08:27.000That's what's going to start happening at midnight tonight.
00:09:06.000And Joe Biden, he can encourage his boss to do stuff today, restore those northern tribal agreements, restore remain in Mexico, finish the dang wall.
00:09:13.000All of these would make America a safer place and a better place for rank and file Americans, American voters, and the American citizens.
00:09:24.000This is Charlie Kirk, and we're saving babies at Preborn.
00:10:49.000I'm seeing some border barrier behind you.
00:10:51.000Is that one of the ones with the big gaps within the barrier where people can just kind of funnel through right there?
00:10:57.000Those border gaps you see all the time.
00:11:00.000So there aren't really border gaps in this area, but what I want people to understand about the way that this is set up is that the wall in El Paso is basically set up at the edge of the city, but there is a bunch of federal land on the other side.
00:11:13.000So those migrants are still very easily to cross over from Mexico into the United States.
00:11:19.000And then once they're in the United States, they're getting processed.
00:11:22.000We just can't see it as easily because it's on the other side of this wall that Border Patrol will not allow us to go past.
00:11:29.000All their shelters, they're calling it one of the biggest humanitarian crises that we've ever seen.
00:11:35.000What are you seeing on a humanitarian level?
00:11:37.000Because the footage has just been unbelievable in terms of trash, in terms of people coming up that are just clearly just worn down, filthy.
00:11:45.000They've been through hell trying to get here because they think they can get in and stay here.
00:11:49.000This seems to be a narrative the left is missing.
00:11:54.000When I got here on Tuesday, that's exactly what the scene was.
00:11:58.000When you walk the streets of downtown El Paso, you would see piles of trash boxes of opened, uneaten food that were attracting a lot of animals.
00:12:06.000There were unused clothing on the ground.
00:12:08.000The streets reek of urine, and there are human feces just scattered throughout downtown.
00:12:12.000So it is not a clean environment at all.
00:12:15.000Now, very interesting thing that happened yesterday morning, you know, what, one day ahead of the expiration of Title 42, the city of El Paso actually brought in environmental services and they went and they cleaned up those streets that we have seen thousands of migrants sleeping on over the past couple of weeks.
00:12:30.000And I was actually speaking to a local officer who shared with me that this was very similar to what happened when Joe Biden came to El Paso back in January to check out the border crisis.
00:12:40.000The city cleaned up the streets, the migrants were transferred to shelters, and it looked like there was really no crisis at all.
00:12:46.000So the officers saying that mirrored the same cleanup operation.
00:12:49.000And then add to that, the church volunteers where this cleanup was happening were sharing that this was the first time since the migrants arrived two weeks ago that the city has really come and done a full sweep like that.
00:13:01.000So one thing that's noteworthy here, and this is a big change from perhaps what we saw a little bit more in 2015, 2016, when this migrant surges were front and center in the news, is that there's now, even where there is wall, the enforcement is so lax.
00:13:18.000And now with Title 42 coming off, there's such a high confidence level that you'll get one of these notices to appear NTAs and people will be able to just get released into the country to do as they please for a few years until their hearing comes up.
00:13:31.000It seems like a lot of people want to get at least vaguely processed.
00:13:35.000We're barely processing them, but at least, hey, I'm here.
00:13:44.000So when I got here on Tuesday, this entire processing operation was going on where Border Patrol was going up to migrants and they were checking to see if they had notice to appear papers.
00:13:54.000And they said, hey, you need to go get processed, go turn yourself in, go get your documentation.
00:13:58.000So that way you can be, you know, brought into a shelter and that way we can give you food.
00:14:03.000Now, I have spoken to a couple of these migrants that have gotten their documentation.
00:14:06.000One migrant already previously deported four times.
00:14:10.000Another woman I spoke to yesterday from Ecuador, her notice to appear date isn't until April of 2027.
00:14:17.000By the way, her husband is currently in Juarez and he is waiting for Title 42 to expire because he did get deported as well.
00:14:25.000So again, when they get those notice to appear papers, they can legally stay in the U.S. until that court date.
00:14:30.000And we are seeing dates two to five years out.
00:14:33.000So this essentially is a gigantic massive, you know, catch and release protocol.
00:14:38.000By the way, Border Patrol being very protective over the airspace here.
00:14:43.000We were able to fly our drone yesterday and we saw hundreds of groups of migrants coming in from Juarez.
00:14:47.000Today, Border Patrol only allowed us to fly drones from the hour of 10 a.m. to 11 a.m.
00:14:52.000That is the only time they're allowing media to fly drones today.
00:14:55.000Well, at least it lets you fly them for a little bit.
00:14:58.000It's the, have you spoken to any of the officers?
00:15:00.000Because whenever I'm down there and I speak to the people on the ground, they find this incredibly demoralizing, what they're asked to do by our bureaucrats in Washington.
00:15:10.000You know, I have covered the border crisis from Arizona all throughout Texas, and I've spoken to Border Patrol who have told me, I feel like I'm basically an Uber for the illegal immigrants.
00:15:18.000A lot of the people coming over are extremely entitled and they won't even walk all the way, you know, to the processing facility.
00:15:24.000They will wait for Border Patrol to come pick them up in their vehicles because they don't want to walk anymore.
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00:18:54.000We have a great guest on the line, Randy Clark, who's part of one of the most important things we do at Breitbart, which is our Cartel Chronicles division, where we track both sides of the border.
00:19:04.000We report in both English and Spanish.
00:19:06.000We're trying to reach people outside of necessarily the conservative media bubble.
00:19:11.000Of course, we love reaching the conservative media bubble too, no disrespect.
00:19:14.000But it is something that we do where we're trying to get the word out, not just about the lax enforcement at our border and the effects for Americans, but also the humanitarian issues that really we are importing here from all around the world.
00:19:34.000When you look at the way we're treating our border now, where we treat it like it doesn't make a difference, what are the downstream effects for human beings who are now compelled to try to make the journey into America thinking they can get in?
00:19:52.000And who's getting rich off of this process?
00:19:54.000Well, right now, this is a much different demographic than we've seen come into the United States traditionally in years past.
00:20:01.000And that includes even last year, because what we're seeing camped out on the banks of the Rio Grande and in the larger cities around San Diego and Tucson on the Mexican side is really the poorest of the poor.
00:20:12.000They're living in shanty towns that they've constructed with tarps and materials that they find.
00:20:17.000And you see the effects of that when you hear how it's pinching New York.
00:20:21.000These folks don't have any support systems.
00:20:25.000They don't have anybody to go to to begin a process of trying to normalize life in the United States, which I think we can all admit that with inflation and cost of living and rent in multiple areas of the country, it's not cheap to live in the United States.
00:20:39.000Well, imagine trying to do that as a brand new person in a new culturally different place with no support structure.
00:20:45.000These folks are going to be public charges.
00:20:47.000So what they're going to face is what many are facing in El Paso.
00:20:51.000The more than 2,000 we've seen, in fact, I visited a week ago that are camped out on the streets of El Paso because they have no funds to leave.
00:21:01.000And until a municipality or the federal government pays their way somewhere else where they're not wanted, really, even in the sanctuary cities of New York and Chicago, they've got no place to go.
00:21:12.000So this is going to be a rough ride for them, too.
00:21:14.000It seems like it's just game on for the cartels.
00:21:17.000It's game on for the people in the fentanyl business.
00:21:19.000It's game on for the people in the human smuggling business.
00:21:22.000I mean, this is Christmas Eve for them, is it not?
00:21:29.000You know, it's hard to get blood out of a turnip.
00:21:30.000So for those that don't have a support structure, they might be, you know, forced to indentured servitude or some mechanism of pain later.
00:21:39.000But that's not really what the cartel is into on a large scale.
00:21:42.000Where the cartel is going to really make their money is those that are going to be most susceptible to return under Title VIII.
00:21:50.000That might be folks from Mexico and the Northern Triangle that may face some level of return.
00:21:55.000But for the rest, the cartel is just having a holiday knowing that every single law enforcement from the Texas Department of Ohio Patrol, state troopers in other states, and the border patrol are going to be relegated to trying to stop this mad rush of migrants over the border and then to provide the humanitarian care because they're not all in the best of health.
00:22:13.000They've been living for months in rudimentary camps without health care.
00:22:17.000They're of all ages and they have the same ailments you'd find in a cross-section of population in the United States, diabetes and other serious health ailments.
00:22:28.000And the point that they're public charges is a big deal is that there shouldn't the standard be, Randy, unless we're absolutely desperate that people coming in are immediately going to be contributors to the system.
00:22:41.000Why are we encouraging people to come in who are immediately going to go in the public doll when we've got a massive debt and deficit that we're debating on right now?
00:22:48.000We're debating about the size of the debt in Washington right now.
00:22:52.000In the meantime, we're going to import all these people who are going to cost us a fortune.
00:22:57.000Well, so the intent of Congress in our immigration laws, in fact, if you've heard the mention of expedited removal, that came from the 1996 Act.
00:23:07.000And that 1996 act, it stiffened penalties for illegal entry, including the public charge measure.
00:23:13.000And the public charge measure says if you're going to get sponsored into the United States, that sponsor is vouching that you are not going to become a public charge.
00:23:20.000Well, this administration, like many of the other immigration laws, they're ignoring that.
00:23:25.000They know these people have no funds to come in.
00:23:28.000They know they're removable just based on the fact that they're a public charge.
00:23:33.000So they're entirely skirting the intent of Congress.
00:23:37.000And that bill was passed in 1996 when Bill Clinton was still the president.
00:23:43.000Randy, you've over three decades of law enforcement experience at the border.
00:23:47.000First, tell us a little bit about that and tell us the experience of what you think the men and women on the ground are going through right now and their families.
00:23:53.000My heart always breaks for their families because they're being put into harm's way.
00:23:58.000They're getting taken out of the home.
00:23:59.000They're not getting paid extra for this stuff.
00:24:01.000And all of this is entirely unnecessary.
00:24:04.000Give me some of the humanitarian element from the law enforcement side.
00:24:09.000Well, so I've spoken to some Border Patrol agents today, and they're 10 hours away from probably one of the biggest immigration catastrophes that we've seen.
00:24:17.000There isn't a Border Patrol agent living or dead that has witnessed what is happening right now.
00:24:22.000Some of the busiest traffic we've had on this border is under this, the busiest, is under this administration.
00:24:28.000These agents are stressed out, but they're not only stressed out because of the level of work that is required of them, but they know that they're failing in their mission because they cannot get out there to stop the folks that might actually cause us harm.
00:24:43.000And that's a really weighing factor for a law enforcement officer.
00:24:47.000We had just in the last 72 hours, 7,600 people get away that we don't know who they are.
00:24:55.000And we saw what 19 people who were intent on causing harm to the United States can do.
00:25:02.000Who are these 7,000 gotaways in just three days?
00:25:06.000So imagine what we're looking at since the start of this administration, which is well over a million people went somewhere into the United States with no vetting, whom we have no idea what their intent for coming here was.
00:25:17.000So this is one of the things that's so frustrating for me, particularly someone who comes from California, where illegal immigration was always just built into the fabric of the state and the culture and the economy by the time I was a sentient being.
00:25:31.000And it feels like we have no sense of exactly how many illegal aliens are here, that we were told there's like 11 million, but that number has never gone up in 30 years.
00:25:42.000But yet, every year, for every person we catch and we're aware of them, there's all these people who make no real connection with the U.S. government.
00:25:55.000And if they are being tracked, we don't know how long they're going to be here or if they're showing up for their court dates.
00:26:00.000Do you have any sense of exactly how many illegal aliens there are at this point?
00:26:04.000Well, it should be easier to determine now because what you're speaking of, you know, in the 1980s when there were the last large influx, a million point eight, a million point six rather migrants entered.
00:26:17.000We got the seasonal terminology because many of them came over, worked in the agricultural industry, and then they went back after a season, made home repairs, took supplies home, and then they did it all over again.
00:26:29.000And a lot of those were multiple entries because we didn't have biographic data at the time, the ability to take biometric data.
00:26:36.000So we don't know if someone was caught five times, 10 times, or 20.
00:26:40.000We know now who's coming, and we also know that these folks predominantly will never return to their home country.
00:26:46.000The folks that this administration are releasing into the streets, the Venezuelans, the Cubans, the Haitians, the Nicaraguans, they're not going back to their home country.
00:27:35.000And then I want you to evaluate where he says that if there are problems, it's basically on Congress.
00:27:39.000Who do you think bears the brunt of the blame?
00:27:41.000And let's start with, is the border actually secure?
00:27:46.000No, I think anybody that has watched some level of media and been on the ground in and around or border residents, whether they're Democrats, Republicans, or Independents, they're going to tell you right now, the border's not secure.
00:27:58.000I think when you see the chief of the Border Patrol get in front of Congress and he's under oath, he's going to tell you the border does not meet the definition of under operational control.
00:28:09.000So does every rank and file border patrol agent.
00:28:11.000And their hair stands up every time they hear, you know, Alejandro Majorca say the border is secure or the border is closed.
00:28:18.000He did that during the Haitian migrant crisis in Del Rio when there were 20,000, mostly Haitian migrants camped out on U.S. soil in Del Rio, and the agency could do nothing about it because they were overwhelmed.
00:28:32.000But I try to be as respectful as I can to somebody based upon, you know, they're another human being.
00:28:39.000But at one point, you just have to call out absolute fabrication of the truth.
00:28:44.000He talks about creating legal pathways.
00:28:47.000Well, they're not creating legal pathways.
00:28:49.000What they're doing is they are using surreptitious legal loopholes to let folks in who have not qualified for relief.
00:28:56.000They're not letting these 100,000 he spoke about from December to now come in because they actually went before an asylum judge or an asylum officer, presented a good quality case and were granted asylum.
00:29:09.000They're taking general biographic data and they're trying to relieve the stress at the rivers and in the deserts of Arizona and in California and they're trying to get them in in the dead of night.
00:29:20.000It has no real standard compared to what the law requires to be actually granted relief under our asylum laws, which we know roughly eight out of 10 will not qualify.
00:29:30.000So I think to believe what's happening, you have to be totally unaware.
00:29:34.000Yeah, so Randy, so tonight Title 42 comes off.
00:29:39.000Is there a chance that it gets so crazy that perhaps the Biden administration is compelled to shut it down?
00:29:46.000And let's look at it from another angle.
00:29:48.000Perhaps even the cartels feel like this could be, if this gets too out of control, their business model could get upended.
00:29:54.000Is there a chance it just gets too chaotic and you might see something unexpected like either of those scenarios?
00:29:59.000Well, you know, unfortunately, I think in what I've been seeing in the level of preparedness over the last several months, they couldn't shut it down if they wanted to.
00:30:10.000They're making open-ended, you know, requests of the migrants to please don't come, that it is secure and not to listen to the cartels.
00:30:17.000And hey, I don't recommend anybody try and cross into the border illegally.
00:30:42.0001,500 National Guard or U.S. Army soldiers and Marines, when you split them up amongst the busiest sectors, it's laughable.
00:30:50.000They're not going to do anything except provide a little bit of relief to Border Patrol agents, providing logistical supplies and some data entry.
00:30:58.000You know, maybe manifest for transport buses, but they can't process.
00:31:03.000They don't all know the languages that they're going to encounter.
00:31:06.000So it's really not going to make a big deal.
00:31:09.000Yeah, we'll have a big surge of data entry personnel to go down on the border.
00:31:22.000One thing that just came out: Turning Points having a big event, Turning Point Action Conference is going to feature Vivek Ramaswamy, Jack Posobic, Charlie, Bannon, Bongino, many more Gates.
00:31:33.000Let's see, Bernie Marino, who's the leading candidate for Senate in Ohio, Josh Hawley.
00:31:37.000It looks like it's going to be an all-star group.
00:31:41.000July 15th and 16th in West Palm Beach.
00:31:44.000You wouldn't want to be in West Palm Beach, great part of the world.
00:31:47.000ActCon 2023 is what they're calling it.
00:31:51.000Some breaking news that took place during the show that I want to share.
00:31:56.000We learned that CNN did cut short the Trump Town Hall, which is very interesting because we know Trump was having his way with CNN.
00:32:04.000We know that the audience was well in Trump's corner.
00:32:08.000The Twitter crowd was going absolutely crazy, apoplectic, that CNN was platforming the bad orange man and letting him not just dunk on them, but also have a great time while he was doing it.
00:32:19.000We all witnessed this play out, those who are following it online.
00:32:23.000But we did learn, in fact, that CNN did cut it short, which is noteworthy because you can bet the ratings were through the roof.
00:32:30.000I'm not sure how quickly they get ratings, if they get them in real time or not, but you can certainly bet that the ratings were the best CNN's had in a while and were definitely cutting into Fox's market share.
00:32:52.000I think I'm going to go with brown lining to this, which is that this could open the floodgates to the Republicans if there are debates.
00:33:00.000And it's not to say there will be given how far ahead Trump is running in 2024.
00:33:04.000But if there are debates, that the mainstream media will probably get them, which I'm vehemently opposed to, despite how well the CNN Town Hall went for Trump.
00:33:12.000I think the Republicans should debate for their own audiences in the primary, and we go from there for the general.
00:33:19.000But there's no way you should be giving places like CNN the chance to moderate debates amongst Republicans.
00:33:25.000But now I think they're going to see this.
00:33:26.000And I think all the Republicans, you can bet people like Vivek were just sitting there going, like, oh, I wish that was me.
00:33:31.000I wish that was me getting a dunk on CNN like that.
00:33:33.000And I think that that's going to be, that could be a bad outcome for Trump's dominant performance.
00:33:41.000Another one I want to bring up: Alejandro Mayorkas is now on record that the investigation concluded that the whipping did not occur.
00:33:49.000You guys remember Whipping Gate, where the fake story of how border agents were whipping migrants as they were coming across the Rio Grande.
00:34:00.000And even Alejandro Mayorkas, who is certainly willing to lie whenever it's politically expedient for him, even he had to acknowledge that that one is not true.
00:34:09.000Last one for now, and maybe the scariest of them all, Hollywood producer Jeffrey Katzenberg has pledged all of the resources Biden will need to win in 2024.
00:34:19.000Those of you who are students of history know that it was Jeffrey Katzenberg and it was David Geffen who handpicked Barack Obama, anointed him the leader of the Democrat Party over Hillary Clinton in the run-up to the 2008 election.
00:34:31.000And look at the mess that created for this country.
00:34:34.000So that is one not to turn your nose up at.