The Charlie Kirk Show - August 22, 2023


The Thucydides Trap: America vs. China


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What is BRICS and how it impacts your life? We also introduce you to a trap that goes all the way back to Sparta and Athens. We then ask the question why is it that the American regime, in all these published articles, they seemingly want to cancel the 2024 election?

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00:00:01.000 What is BRICS? 1.00
00:00:03.000 We go through that and how it impacts your life, the intentional destabilization of the American dollar. 1.00
00:00:08.000 We also introduce you to a trap that goes all the way back to Sparta and Athens.
00:00:14.000 We then ask the question why is it that the American regime, in all these published articles, they seemingly want to cancel the 2024 election?
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00:01:48.000 The biggest story on the planet is the BRICS.
00:01:52.000 It's BRICS with an S. You have four major rising powers, and then you have South Africa, which is obviously the affirmative action pick.
00:02:00.000 These four rising powers have big, diverse economies, and then South Africa can't even keep the lights on, but I guess they're the host. 0.92
00:02:09.000 What's going on here?
00:02:09.000 Well, China arrives in South Africa on.
00:02:12.000 Honestly, that's the biggest airplane I think I've ever seen.
00:02:14.000 What is that, like a double or triple decker?
00:02:16.000 Air China!
00:02:18.000 Xi Jinping, Winnie the Pooh, comes down the stairs slowly, triumphantly.
00:02:23.000 They are trying to create a different world.
00:02:28.000 They are trying to create a different world than the one we live in. 0.98
00:02:32.000 And we, the United States of America, the gay, the globalist American empire, have forced the hand of this. 0.99
00:02:40.000 If they are successful, you will get immediately poorer. 0.98
00:02:43.000 If these people, Xi Jinping, Modi from India, South Africa, Lula from Brazil, if they are successful, the American that we know, the American economy that we have grown accustomed to, will no longer exist.
00:03:03.000 For all of history, China has been famously a relatively insular country.
00:03:08.000 They've been massively wealthy, but they don't like venturing abroad much.
00:03:12.000 Do you know that in Chinese, China literally means center of the world?
00:03:20.000 They aren't like Europeans who traditionally went out and explored and colonized the world during the Golden Age.
00:03:25.000 They're very inward focused. 0.97
00:03:27.000 But that's changing now. 0.50
00:03:30.000 China believes that it deserves to be the number one power in the world.
00:03:34.000 And they're starting to realize that means building up a global alliance against the current number one power, America.
00:03:40.000 Belt and Road Initiative, purchasing land.
00:03:44.000 They're using the American system against us, buying up our farmland, infiltrating our universities, purchasing our politicians, elite capture, buying off the Bidens, buying off the National Basketball Association, buying off Hollywood.
00:03:59.000 And our leaders, for the last 20 or 30 years, have cared more about making money than standing up for America.
00:04:09.000 And we kind of rolled our eyes and under the Description of free trade.
00:04:18.000 We've said, oh, we're getting richer.
00:04:19.000 We haven't been getting richer.
00:04:21.000 China has been getting richer.
00:04:24.000 Now, all of this is a prelude to what is happening today in South Africa.
00:04:28.000 It's the biggest story on the planet.
00:04:30.000 Yet the Wall Street Journal is not covering it.
00:04:34.000 The New York Times is not covering it.
00:04:37.000 I mean, they have a little story here or there, but it's not a lead story.
00:04:40.000 This is a global realignment happening in real time.
00:04:45.000 The whole planet is realigning in South Africa or attempting to realign in South Africa.
00:04:50.000 And so they have this coalition called the BRICS, a block of five countries Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.
00:04:59.000 South Africa is the joy read of the BRICS nations.
00:05:03.000 Combined, they are about 40% of the world's population and about 25% of its total economic output.
00:05:12.000 All these countries aspire to shake up the global.
00:05:15.000 Economic order, which is dominated by the United States, by the US dollar, and by our allies among the world's wealthiest countries like the European Union and Japan.
00:05:22.000 One of the things they're talking about in South Africa is the desire to strengthen their currencies and undermine the US dollar.
00:05:28.000 That's why they are meeting.
00:05:31.000 They are trying to undermine the United States dollar, undermine the dollar as the world reserve currency, which would make us poor immediately, poorer and poor immediately.
00:05:44.000 So much of our GDP, so much of our economic strength.
00:05:48.000 Is built on the dollar being the world reserve currency.
00:05:52.000 This undermines our sovereignty.
00:05:53.000 This undermines our ability to pass down wealth to future generations.
00:06:00.000 Thanks to our leaders, Joe Biden, Tony Blinken, and even some Republicans, in fact, especially some Republicans like Miss Lady Graham and the turtle and many others, we're sitting idly by while this global realignment is happening.
00:06:18.000 What triggered all of this?
00:06:20.000 Ukraine.
00:06:23.000 From the moment Russia invaded Ukraine, we were very clear and we said, This is not going to end well.
00:06:30.000 We were attacked by many people on the right.
00:06:33.000 Oh, you must stand with Ukraine.
00:06:34.000 We said, Why?
00:06:36.000 Why?
00:06:37.000 Well, because you're a bad person if not.
00:06:40.000 But what happens if Russia decides to wage war on our currency? 1.00
00:06:44.000 Shut up, bigot. 1.00
00:06:45.000 Huh. 0.99
00:06:47.000 But we also said from the very beginning on this program Russia and China are growing closer together.
00:06:51.000 Oh, you don't have a degree in geopolitics.
00:06:54.000 You know, we're on the Council of Foreign Relations.
00:06:55.000 We know better than you, but we can see in real time.
00:06:58.000 You don't need a meteorology, you do not need to be a meteorologist to know it's raining.
00:07:03.000 It's like, this is not good.
00:07:06.000 Our leaders have pushed Russia and China together. 0.76
00:07:09.000 India is part of this coalition.
00:07:12.000 Brazil, after they were able to get rid of Bolsonaro, get them part of that.
00:07:18.000 Bolsonaro would not put up with any of this.
00:07:22.000 Xi and Putin are literally making pancakes together right now.
00:07:27.000 Now, the question remains is why are leaders putting up with this?
00:07:32.000 I'm going to tell you exactly why in a second.
00:07:36.000 They're talking about openly building a new, alternative, more decentralized economic order.
00:07:43.000 Get America out of the way.
00:07:45.000 Right now, BRICS is just five countries who make up the acronym, but they're considering expansion.
00:07:50.000 And so far, 22 countries have formally expressed interest in joining.
00:07:55.000 The list of countries ought to make you and the American people very nervous.
00:08:00.000 The people who have applied are Argentina, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Nigeria, Bangladesh, and Mexico.
00:08:10.000 China is building a sizable economic bloc, and Mexico, right on our border, is looking to join.
00:08:16.000 Mexico, the source of all of the illegal border jumping and the transit hub of China's fentanyl supply.
00:08:26.000 If we had Donald Trump as president, if they were not able to derail him, just like they did with Bolsonaro, remember, they had to get rid of Trump, they had to get rid of Bolsonaro.
00:08:35.000 Had to get rid of Trump, had to get rid of Bolsonaro to make this happen.
00:08:41.000 Trump would have said, you know what?
00:08:42.000 Mexico, 15% tariff on your cars coming into America.
00:08:47.000 That's a starting point.
00:08:48.000 You get on the plane to South Africa, 50%.
00:08:51.000 We're not going to play ball with this.
00:08:53.000 All of this is a reaction to the United States and Europe funding the war in Ukraine. 0.63
00:09:00.000 The Western media has attacked Vladimir Putin as being a crazy person, as being erratic.
00:09:06.000 I'm not saying he's a good person.
00:09:08.000 I do not support Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine.
00:09:11.000 But if Vladimir Putin is able to pull off the destabilization of the US dollar, he will have defeated America without ever having to fire a shot on the American homeland.
00:09:21.000 Why are our leaders not talking about this?
00:09:23.000 Why do we not have Senate hearings or congressional hearings on this?
00:09:26.000 Where's the outrage from the Republican Party?
00:09:28.000 Instead, we are seeing Republicans that say we have to send more money to Ukraine, more money to Ukraine, more money to Ukraine.
00:09:36.000 India, we could cancel in an afternoon.
00:09:39.000 We could say, India, you're not part of it. 0.96
00:09:40.000 We could break up bricks and we could unite the world against the true enemy, the Chinese Communist Party. 0.94
00:09:45.000 Russia should be our partner in fighting the Chinese Communist Party. 0.87
00:09:49.000 Instead, our government has a different agenda.
00:09:54.000 Part of our government are just outright traitors, bought and paid for by the CCP, bought and paid for by foreign governments.
00:10:00.000 But not every member of our government is guilty of treason.
00:10:06.000 Not every single member of our government is on the payroll of the CCP.
00:10:09.000 Instead, there is an intellectual reason why they're actually not so upset about what's happening in South Africa.
00:10:19.000 It's a philosophical contagion and approach to geopolitics.
00:10:25.000 I'll explain it to you.
00:10:28.000 We've never talked about it on this program before because this is deeper than economics. 0.79
00:10:33.000 Essentially, this is the United States saying we want to surrender before the inevitable fight against China because they're going to win anyway. 0.50
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00:12:09.000 So, if you were to get Tony Blinken or Jake Sullivan, let's just say one of them that's not totally on CCP payroll, and you were to ask them and they were to tell the 100% truth, why are you indifferent to the rise of China?
00:12:26.000 Why is it as if you have just given up?
00:12:29.000 Why is it that you're just letting China do whatever they want? 0.96
00:12:31.000 We've never held them accountable for the China virus. 0.96
00:12:33.000 They lied about COVID, they cover it up. 0.96
00:12:35.000 It obviously came from a lab. 0.86
00:12:37.000 They're taking over the entire third world, Belt and Road Initiative. 0.96
00:12:41.000 Why is that?
00:12:42.000 Well, let me tell you about something that many of these smart people, Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinken and the Council for Foreign Relations people, believe.
00:12:52.000 And it's called the Thucydides Trap.
00:12:57.000 Say that three times fast.
00:12:59.000 The Thucydides Trap.
00:13:00.000 We haven't explained this on the show before.
00:13:03.000 So, Thucydides was an ancient Greek writer.
00:13:07.000 He lived in Athens in the 5th century BC.
00:13:11.000 Thucydides was one of the first historians ever recorded.
00:13:16.000 And his masterwork was a very long history of the Peloponnesian War.
00:13:20.000 It was a war between the nation Sparta, those guys from the movie 300, as you might remember, and the democracy of Athens, Athenian democracy.
00:13:30.000 And yes, Athens was an actual democracy, unlike America.
00:13:33.000 And Athens fell apart because democracy is unsustainable and democracy is not a good idea.
00:13:38.000 Now, in history, Thucydides argued that the war between Athens and Sparta, which was hugely long and enormously destructive to both countries, was caused because Athens was growing in power and was able to surpass Sparta.
00:13:54.000 Sparta's leaders feared this outcome and decided to wage war on Athens and defeat them while they were still the stronger country.
00:14:02.000 So, this idea of the Thucydides trap has been playing out many different times.
00:14:09.000 Basically, here's how it works.
00:14:11.000 You have a strong power, and then you have a rising power.
00:14:16.000 And the trap is that the two powers inevitably are going to fight.
00:14:22.000 That's the trap.
00:14:25.000 The Thucydides trap is that it is inevitable that there will be a melee, that there will be a rumble in the jungle.
00:14:35.000 There will be a thrilla in Manila, there will be a collision.
00:14:41.000 So, in the smart guy circles of the Council of Foreign Relations, they know this.
00:14:46.000 Now, they have actively assisted the Chinese Communist Party to get rich.
00:14:52.000 They have allowed the Chinese Communist Party to become a growing power because we decided to close on our factories and send them to China so the Wall Street bankers, the worldly elites, can get a second and third home in Aspen. 0.59
00:15:04.000 Very important. 0.86
00:15:05.000 How dare you not allow them a second home in Aspen? 1.00
00:15:08.000 Who cares if East Palestine is poor? 0.98
00:15:10.000 Who cares if Appalachia becomes poor?
00:15:15.000 Permanently impoverished, they need, they need that home in Sun Valley, Idaho.
00:15:21.000 And don't question them because it's free trade and you're getting rich.
00:15:23.000 Doesn't matter if you have a dollar store and your kids are addicted to meth.
00:15:26.000 You're getting rich.
00:15:26.000 Come on.
00:15:28.000 If you don't believe me, you're a deplorable. 0.99
00:15:32.000 So, they know this.
00:15:33.000 So, there are three ways that you can handle a Thucydides trap.
00:15:38.000 The first one is you can get ready to fight.
00:15:41.000 The fight is coming. 0.79
00:15:44.000 We are going to stand up and we are going to fight the Chinese Communist Party sometime in our lifetime. 0.92
00:15:48.000 That's the first way.
00:15:49.000 The second way is you can refuse to fight at all.
00:15:53.000 Let it happen.
00:15:55.000 Let them take it over and lay down your arms, and they think they can hack the Thucydides trap by not engaging in the brawl. 0.81
00:16:02.000 Just not showing up, surrendering, white flag, you take it over. 0.57
00:16:06.000 Or the third way, which they think they're being really cute, is called a fusion that you merge the two societies together, AKA, you sell out. 0.96
00:16:19.000 This is rubbish, the selling out. 0.81
00:16:21.000 Let me tell you why. 1.00
00:16:23.000 Because China just wants to win. 0.81
00:16:24.000 They're Al Davis. 0.99
00:16:26.000 Just win, baby.
00:16:28.000 They just want to win. 0.87
00:16:30.000 They don't want to merge with American culture.
00:16:32.000 They hate our culture. 0.96
00:16:35.000 They don't believe in God.
00:16:37.000 These are godless, secular, material Marxists who look long term.
00:16:45.000 So while some of our elites say, well, how do we fuse the two together?
00:16:49.000 It's like fusion cuisine.
00:16:51.000 China is laughing and they say, we are going to win this thing because our victory is inevitable.
00:16:59.000 So our leaders think we're engaged in this trap.
00:17:02.000 But do you know that not a single one of our current leaders in the national security establishment?
00:17:07.000 Or in the economic leadership are saying, well, why don't we try to win?
00:17:12.000 You have one side trying to win and one side afraid to even engage in the game.
00:17:20.000 That's exactly what's going on.
00:17:21.000 That's why there is an indifference from our elites. 0.82
00:17:23.000 That's why they do not care what BRICS is doing.
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00:17:32.000 His entire worldview is based on winning, and that terrifies them.
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00:18:17.000 We are told repeatedly by the people on television that our democracy, our democracy, is in a very fragile pace.
00:18:29.000 Remember, it's ours.
00:18:32.000 And as we said yesterday, anytime you hear our democracy, remember, we are a republic, not a democracy, just replace it with our oligarchy.
00:18:41.000 That's all you have to do.
00:18:43.000 And as if we timed it.
00:18:46.000 As if we just put everything at perfect pace.
00:18:53.000 Something happened intentionally yesterday, in perfect harmony.
00:18:59.000 You see, the New York Times and the Atlantic both had similar articles, pieces that were extensions of what we talked about yesterday.
00:19:11.000 Remember, we talked about yesterday in great detail about how.
00:19:17.000 The party of democracy, oligarchy, is trying to keep Donald Trump off the ballot.
00:19:24.000 The way to save democracy is to have a one party state.
00:19:27.000 The way to save democracy is to have only one option.
00:19:31.000 And now the New York Times has an article, and this is not a mistake.
00:19:38.000 This, they probe it, they trial balloon it, they push the boundary, they see the reaction.
00:19:45.000 If necessary, they'll reel it back in.
00:19:47.000 They'll reel it back in.
00:19:48.000 But this is an attempt to move the Overton window.
00:19:52.000 This is an attempt to try to push, push the boundary.
00:19:57.000 It's a trial balloon by other means.
00:19:59.000 New York Times opinion guest essay.
00:20:03.000 Not a joke, not an exaggeration, not a satire piece.
00:20:09.000 Elections are bad for democracy.
00:20:14.000 The New York Times, which is constantly lecturing us about democracy, is now picking up where the Atlantic left off yesterday, saying elections are bad for democracy.
00:20:30.000 They want to get rid of elections, everybody.
00:20:32.000 We've said that.
00:20:34.000 Whether it be emergency measures, crisis, climate change, or getting rid of elections as we once knew them, they're trying to get rid of the idea of the consent of the governed.
00:20:48.000 And in this Orwellian doublespeak projection way, they accuse us of trying to get in the way of democracy.
00:20:57.000 There is a game plan here, and we're going to try to build it out.
00:21:00.000 They have a plan.
00:21:02.000 And in perfect harmony, after the Atlantic yesterday says Trump should not be allowed on the ballot, and then the New York Times says elections are bad for democracy, what does the Atlantic then publish?
00:21:14.000 Shot, chaser, boom, Atlantic.
00:21:16.000 Americans vote too much.
00:21:17.000 So you have the Atlantic saying Trump should not be allowed on the ballot, you have the New York Times saying elections are bad for democracy, and the Atlantic saying Americans vote too much. 0.71
00:21:27.000 This is confirmation of what we have been saying all along.
00:21:32.000 The idea that you can vote bothers them.
00:21:36.000 The idea that you might be able to vote securely irritates them.
00:21:41.000 Plato famously came up with this idea of the philosopher king who knows better.
00:21:45.000 This is why they always say in their articles experts say, experts say, experts say, they want America to be governed by a secret society of unelected.
00:21:54.000 That is what the administrative state is built on, not the people.
00:21:59.000 And they're trying to grind that down.
00:22:04.000 You can't make this up.
00:22:06.000 Americans vote too much.
00:22:06.000 The Atlantic.
00:22:08.000 I thought the whole idea is to vote all the time.
00:22:10.000 Isn't that the promise of democracy? 0.95
00:22:12.000 No, they want oligarchy. 0.95
00:22:16.000 They always have.
00:22:18.000 An idea of representative government is too much of a risk. 1.00
00:22:22.000 That means you have to talk to the plebes that you oversee, you have to listen to the peasants, you have to pander to the serfs. 0.95
00:22:28.000 They want a permanent, untouchable, unquestionable, worshipped administrative state oligarchy. 0.91
00:22:36.000 And they get away with it.
00:22:37.000 And yes, the people on television are saying, oh, yeah, you know, I think that's a good idea.
00:22:41.000 Let's get rid of elections.
00:22:43.000 Yeah.
00:22:43.000 Elections are bad, they're annoying.
00:22:45.000 In fact, this lunatic, Adam Grant, Dr. Adam Grant, who's an organizational psychologist at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, argues in the piece Elections Are Bad for Democracy that we should randomly select our leaders, randomly select, like a lottery, as if we're pulling a jury.
00:23:11.000 I've heard some really bad ideas before.
00:23:15.000 This is chief among them.
00:23:19.000 As if we should just need a pick in the DMV.
00:23:23.000 That's not any sort of representative government.
00:23:26.000 You know what they're trying to say by this?
00:23:27.000 Dr. Adam Grant.
00:23:29.000 They don't want another Trump to ever come on the scene.
00:23:31.000 They do not want a rebel, a challenger to the ruling class.
00:23:38.000 And then the Atlantic piece Americans vote too much.
00:23:41.000 So, what's really going on here?
00:23:43.000 Do not be surprised if they're going to try and cancel the 2024 election.
00:23:49.000 They're saying it.
00:23:52.000 How they will do that, I have no idea.
00:23:55.000 False flag, Reichstag fire, crisis, lockdowns, masks, COVID, climate change. 0.62
00:24:02.000 They are trial ballooning, trying to get the people that wore two masks inside and wear the pride flag, they wear the Ukraine flag and the BLM, the NPCs of the American Republic.
00:24:17.000 They want to trial balloon them that the way that we save democracy is we stop voting.
00:24:22.000 That passes as intellectual at the New York Times.
00:24:26.000 That the way that we save the country is we just suspend all.
00:24:31.000 People's voice that we have a crisis so big, there's no need to vote anymore.
00:24:35.000 We're in power, they're not.
00:24:37.000 Fascist, domestic, violent, extremist, right wingers keep us permanently in power.
00:24:43.000 They're going to try.
00:24:44.000 I don't know what it looks like.
00:24:46.000 But why would they be probing this?
00:24:48.000 This is the third piece of authorship that we've seen.
00:24:52.000 And just so we're clear, the CIA's favorite foreigner, the actor, Zelensky, he said no more elections in Ukraine.
00:25:04.000 Because we're at war.
00:25:07.000 Elections are done. 0.68
00:25:08.000 So they're doing it in Ukraine.
00:25:10.000 Now, how they'll do that here, and the media will say, oh, Charlie, it's so unrealistic.
00:25:14.000 Well, if it's so unrealistic, why is the New York Times platforming a PhD from Wharton saying that elections are bad of democracy?
00:25:24.000 This has to be coordinated.
00:25:26.000 This shows proof of war gaming.
00:25:29.000 Somebody, somewhere in the last couple weeks, sat around a kitchen table, sat around a conference room.
00:25:35.000 Remember, the left plans, the right does not.
00:25:37.000 We do none of this stuff.
00:25:39.000 Maybe it's Obama. 0.63
00:25:41.000 Maybe it's Valerie Jarrett, Axelrod, Loreen Powell Jobs. 1.00
00:25:45.000 She owns The Atlantic.
00:25:48.000 And they said, you know what? 0.94
00:25:49.000 Why do we need elections exactly?
00:25:52.000 Why do we need them?
00:25:54.000 The people we don't like anyway.
00:25:55.000 The people are annoying.
00:25:56.000 The people own guns.
00:25:58.000 The people ask too many questions. 0.99
00:26:00.000 Let's just call off the elections.
00:26:01.000 Let's just create a circumstance where we trial balloon this, we push the Overton window, and elections are gone altogether.
00:26:11.000 That's what they're now recommending in the paper of record, all the news that's fit to print.
00:26:18.000 The New York Times.
00:26:19.000 Elections are bad for democracy.
00:26:24.000 And if you're a Bernie Sanders type out there, or if you're a left winger and you're in the Democrat Party, when are you guys going to start to say something? 0.99
00:26:32.000 Probably never because you're a bunch of cowards. 1.00
00:26:34.000 You're very weak. 1.00
00:26:36.000 I'm talking about the purple hair trans freaks that I see on campus all the time. 1.00
00:26:39.000 When are you guys going to start to say something? 1.00
00:26:42.000 I thought your whole thing is about voting and representation.
00:26:45.000 All these people that gave $18 so that Bernie Sanders could have it robbed by the oligarch Hillary Clinton, then robbed by Joe Biden, robbed in 16, robbed in 20.
00:26:53.000 Are you guys just going to keep on putting up with this?
00:26:56.000 Say what you will about how broken the Republican Party is.
00:27:01.000 Say what you will about how dysfunctional the Republican Party is.
00:27:06.000 Say what you will.
00:27:08.000 But I'll tell you, it's a good thing that we have at least.
00:27:15.000 The process of a primary.
00:27:16.000 I think we should end the primary.
00:27:19.000 But somehow, in some ways, I think it's important to realize the Democrat Party is a party of plutocrats.
00:27:34.000 And they take advantage of all of these young, resentful activists.
00:27:41.000 They're like, we're fighting for democracy, and the way we're going to save democracy is ending elections.
00:27:50.000 Be on guard, everybody.
00:27:51.000 They're going to try to cancel the 2024 election.
00:27:54.000 Don't believe me?
00:27:54.000 Read the New York Times.
00:27:55.000 Don't believe me?
00:27:56.000 Read the Atlantic. 0.51
00:27:56.000 Americans vote too much. 0.51
00:27:57.000 There's too many elections. 1.00
00:27:58.000 People have too much voice.
00:28:00.000 They're going to try to cancel it by other means.
00:28:01.000 Look what they're doing with Donald Trump.
00:28:02.000 Keep him off the ballot.
00:28:04.000 Now, whether they cancel them for real or in substance cancel them is irrelevant.
00:28:08.000 They're going to try to cancel the essence of it, is what I'm getting at.
00:28:12.000 And that's the most important thing.
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00:29:14.000 We have to war game this stuff.
00:29:16.000 You think they're going to allow a seamless, perfect landing in 2024?
00:29:21.000 By the way, I just want to remind you.
00:29:25.000 I think we forget how chaotic September and October of 2020 was. 0.85
00:29:30.000 And Donald Trump, still with all the garbage, was like 8,000 votes short in Arizona. 0.65
00:29:40.000 He couldn't even do his rallies the way he wanted to do them. 0.99
00:29:44.000 Remember that.
00:29:45.000 He could not do the events the way he wanted to do them.
00:29:48.000 Everything was COVID this and COVID that.
00:29:51.000 Do you really think that the other side wants to have a normal 2016 style election?
00:29:58.000 There is way too much at stake here.
00:30:02.000 Way too much.
00:30:04.000 So, how do you prevent it?
00:30:05.000 What we're doing right now on this show is actually how you prevent it.
00:30:09.000 You find it, you isolate it, you publicize it, and you shine a light on it early.
00:30:15.000 You make the bad guys know that we're watching you, that we are on edge, that we see what you're doing.
00:30:23.000 Look, Media Matters and all these people are going to say, oh, the right wing accuses the left of wanting to cancel elections.
00:30:28.000 Let me just remind you.
00:30:30.000 What is the basis of this entire proposition?
00:30:36.000 New York Times elections are bad for democracy. 0.86
00:30:38.000 The Atlantic Americans vote too much.
00:30:40.000 No one can be a full time political animal. 1.00
00:30:42.000 They are the ones that are trial ballooning it.
00:30:44.000 The Atlantic the Constitution prevents Trump from ever being president again.
00:30:48.000 Those are three pieces in high brow intellectual left wing publications that are arguing for a canceled election by another means.
00:30:58.000 Whether you call it an interfered with election, it doesn't matter.
00:31:00.000 It's semantics at that point.
00:31:01.000 Okay.
00:31:02.000 Some people might say, well, Charlie, you mean there'll be no election whatsoever?
00:31:05.000 That's probably unlikely.
00:31:06.000 But the point is that they are arguing for a reconfiguration of what we consider to be a normal way, and they are sick of the consent of the governed.
00:31:14.000 They are exhausted to have a deal with you every couple of years.
00:31:17.000 They do not want to have to keep going back to the people for a renewed permission slip.
00:31:23.000 They don't like that.
00:31:25.000 They don't think we're smart enough.
00:31:26.000 They don't think that we believe what they believe enough.
00:31:29.000 And so the unelected elites, the professors, the masters of the universe, the Fauci types.
00:31:34.000 Play Cut 38.
00:31:36.000 The question I have been considering the 14th Amendment.
00:31:39.000 And a man I have enormous respect for, Larry Tribe, who advised me for a long time, thinks that it would be legitimate.
00:31:47.000 That was in regards to the debt, just so we're clear, debt ceiling.
00:31:52.000 But Larry Tribe, who he's complimenting, much respect for, is the one who wrote the piece yesterday in The Atlantic calling for Donald Trump not allowed to become on the ballot.
00:32:02.000 So before some of my critics say, oh, Charlie's out there blowing bluster about a canceled election, time out, time out, time out.
00:32:09.000 Just read them in their own words.
00:32:10.000 Don't even take my commentary for it.
00:32:12.000 Just read what they are saying.
00:32:14.000 Something has changed in the last 24 to 36 hours where all of a sudden, boom, they're just saying bluntly and plainly, forget this election stuff.
00:32:21.000 The 14th Amendment operates as a cheat code to try to get whatever you want.
00:32:26.000 As we said yesterday, and we came under attack from the media, and I don't care, the 14th Amendment was a great thing.
00:32:32.000 It did a great thing.
00:32:34.000 However, it was too sloppily and broadly written so that it could cancel elections, ignore the debt ceiling, birthright citizenship, and all of that.
00:32:42.000 That's all from the 14th Amendment.
00:32:44.000 And whatever you call it, if you call it a tampered election, an interfered with election, a canceled election, a damaged election, whatever.
00:32:54.000 It is clear that the ruling class, the philosopher kings and queens, and the academics of the regime do not want to have a normally constitutionally administered election.
00:33:08.000 That is a fact.
00:33:10.000 Read them in their own words.
00:33:13.000 Don't even speculate beyond it.
00:33:16.000 Why?
00:33:18.000 This is because the indictments aren't working.
00:33:22.000 That's why.
00:33:24.000 They see it, they feel it, and they're panicking. 0.63
00:33:29.000 Donald Trump will only grow more popular as these indictments fall apart, as big Fannie Willis and her group of thugs in Fulton County try to go after Trump. 0.66
00:33:36.000 It's just going to keep on deteriorating and deteriorating and deteriorating.
00:33:41.000 Trump is stronger than ever, and he's only going to get stronger.
00:33:44.000 Even if they get convictions, he appeals, he runs.
00:33:47.000 So now they have to go to the most extreme measures.
00:33:49.000 The most extreme measures change the election itself.
00:33:52.000 That's the most extreme measure.
00:33:54.000 First, try to prevent the candidate, and then go to actual the process and the game, change the rules of the game.
00:34:00.000 That's where they are at right now.
00:34:03.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:05.000 When they tell you who they are, believe them.
00:34:07.000 When they publish their plans, believe them.
00:34:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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