The Charlie Kirk Show - January 04, 2023


The Transgender Terror with Chloe Cole and Jeff Younger


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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk show, we have an entire hour talking about transgenderism.
00:00:06.000 Someone whose child has been kidnapped from him joins us of a ex-wife that is forcing transition on their son.
00:00:15.000 Chloe Cole joins us, and then I read a pretty troubling email about the growing social contagion of the trans virus.
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00:01:26.000 So there's a very interesting story here that I want to build out.
00:01:31.000 So there's California SB 107, which we talked about this bill before.
00:01:36.000 It's SB 107.
00:01:37.000 It was passed last year by state Senator Scott Weiner, and it just took effect last year.
00:01:43.000 Now, typically, the Constitution requires states to give full faith and credit to the acts of other states, including their judicial proceedings.
00:01:51.000 This means, for instance, that if a state demands someone to be extradited for a crime there, another state is supposed to comply.
00:01:58.000 Well, SB 107 explicitly ignores this requirement and basically announces that California is a sanctuary state when it comes to transgenderism.
00:02:07.000 To explain further, SB 107 says, quote, it is public policy of the state that an out-of-state arrest warrant for an individual based on violating another state's law against providing, receiving, or allowing their child to receive gender-affirming health care.
00:02:23.000 California law enforcement agencies shall not knowingly make or participate in the arrest or participate in any extradition of any individual pursuant to an out-of-state arrest warrant for violation of another state's law against providing, receiving, or allowing a child to receive gender-affirming care.
00:02:40.000 There's a lot more to it, but the ramifications are this.
00:02:43.000 Suppose there's a state that has banned child mutilation or chemical castration.
00:02:47.000 Then suppose two parents are in a custody battle in the state.
00:02:52.000 Then suppose the parent who loses custody says it's because they wanted their child to undergo a gender transition that the state wouldn't allow.
00:02:58.000 Under this new California law, it stands to reason that this parent could abduct the child, take them to California, and say it's for them to receive a gender transition.
00:03:06.000 That's exactly what Jeff Younger says he fears.
00:03:11.000 His wife has moved with their son, James, to California.
00:03:15.000 There's supposed to be a court order that James cannot be placed on puberty blockers or receive surgery without Jeff's permission.
00:03:21.000 But will that order hold up in California court anymore?
00:03:24.000 Joining us now is Jeff Younger.
00:03:26.000 Jeff, welcome to the program.
00:03:27.000 Walk us through what you guys are experiencing and give us some backstory as well.
00:03:32.000 Well, you know, my ex-wife began to transition my son at the age of two.
00:03:37.000 She forced me out of the house when my son was three, filed for divorce.
00:03:42.000 I took my first iPhone video.
00:03:44.000 If you Google Mommy Says I'm a Girl on YouTube or whatever, you'll see that video.
00:03:49.000 It went viral.
00:03:50.000 And she started telling my son that he was a girl.
00:03:52.000 She had a girl's brain and a boy's body.
00:03:54.000 She began to dress him as a boy, I mean, as a girl, and changed his name without my consent or without consent of the court.
00:04:01.000 Eventually, she enrolled him in school as a girl, and that led to a huge trial in 2019, where the top transgender experts in the world showed up at this little courthouse in Dallas in the 255th District Court.
00:04:15.000 After hearing all the evidence, the court gave me 50-50 custody and no child support.
00:04:20.000 In a transparently corrupt procedure, the Dallas County judges recused the judge that gave me 50-50 custody and put me into another court, the 301st District Court under Judge Mary Brown.
00:04:32.000 I call her Judge Bloody Mary Brown.
00:04:34.000 Bloody Mary Brown then systematically whittled away my parental rights using temporary orders and then allowed my ex-wife to move to California.
00:04:43.000 After reading the laws in California about mandatory contact, if you don't contact your children regularly in California, you can lose your parental rights.
00:04:51.000 It's now become clear that each of the orders issued by the judge was intended to remove my ability to comply with the California contact requirements to maintain your parental rights.
00:05:02.000 So I have no right to see my sons.
00:05:04.000 I can't have electronic communication.
00:05:05.000 I don't even have an address where I can write letters to them.
00:05:08.000 And if that goes on for a year, California can terminate my parental rights without my consent.
00:05:15.000 And so this looks like it was a setup from an ideological judge in the 301st District Court, Dallas County.
00:05:21.000 So I took this up to the Supreme Court and said that my son is at risk in California, that it's much more likely that his mother will violate the injunction and will transition him in California.
00:05:34.000 Further, that SB 107 prohibits enforcement of the injunction, prohibiting her from transitioning James.
00:05:42.000 The court disagreed on two grounds.
00:05:44.000 First, they found it was not more likely that she would transition James in California, which is absurd on its face.
00:05:50.000 Second, the court found that Texas could enforce the injunction, although it used a little bit of sophistry.
00:06:01.000 It says that it can enforce it, but doesn't say where.
00:06:03.000 It's certainly enforceable in Texas, but it's not enforceable on the person of Ann Georgilis, my ex-wife, or my sons.
00:06:11.000 So the courts, in a way, used some sophistry to lie to the people of Texas and created a very dangerous ruling that is going to allow children in Texas to be moved to abortion sanctuary states, transgender sanctuary states, and other kinds of sanctuary states that would violate the customs and laws of the state of Texas.
00:06:28.000 So you said that your wife was trying to transition your child at two?
00:06:33.000 Yes, started at two years old.
00:06:34.000 How is that even possible?
00:06:35.000 I mean, what that seems incomprehensible to me.
00:06:39.000 She began to put him in timeouts saying, don't be a boy, the monster's only eat boys.
00:06:44.000 And then I started, I stopped her from doing that.
00:06:46.000 She started trying to dress him up.
00:06:48.000 In the 2019 trial, she testified that the reason she originally thought he was a girl is because he asked for a McDonald's happy meal at McDonald's.
00:06:56.000 And a few days later, he saw a silver purse with a multicolored unicorn at Target and wanted her to buy him that purse.
00:07:03.000 And she testified that on that basis, she thought he might be a girl.
00:07:07.000 I mean, before she started to, I mean, did you have any warning that your wife was going to act in that way?
00:07:16.000 The main warning I got was when I started seeing her putting him in those timeouts.
00:07:20.000 And then when he started saying that mommy says I'm a girl and telling me that stuff.
00:07:24.000 And then finally, she actually enrolled him in the Genesis Clinic, which is a gender change clinic for children in Dallas.
00:07:31.000 She enrolled him in that gender clinic.
00:07:32.000 And I got into it with the 12 psychiatrists, the panel of them, and destroyed these people.
00:07:37.000 And they just didn't want any part of me.
00:07:40.000 So they took James out of that clinic.
00:07:42.000 Then she took him to a pediatrician and found a pediatrician that would rediagnose him with gender dysphoria.
00:07:47.000 And in the medical records, it shows that her and the pediatrician intended to chemically castrate James at age nine.
00:07:53.000 And that was entered into court records, and she was cross-examined and confirmed that in a deposition.
00:07:59.000 And so, this just kind of came out of nowhere.
00:08:02.000 Did your wife, I mean, from what you understand, start reading transgender literature or something where she thought this?
00:08:09.000 Well, there's a lot of things I found out about her once I deposed her.
00:08:13.000 There's a lot of stuff I didn't know when I married her.
00:08:15.000 I didn't know that her mother was a committed LGBT activist.
00:08:20.000 She was actually the Lutheran pastor that split the Lutheran denomination over gay marriage and gay ordainment of pastors.
00:08:27.000 I didn't know that she had been a lifelong, and my ex-wife had been a lifelong LGBT advocate, too.
00:08:33.000 She told me she was a member of the Republican Party and a conservative.
00:08:36.000 I did not know that her sister was a lesbian and that she had raised her children in the home with her lesbian sister and that the two daughters that I inherited had never even encountered a man really before.
00:08:48.000 Like they were completely shocked that I could win physical races and physical sports.
00:08:53.000 They had no idea that men were better at sports than women.
00:08:58.000 And it was just completely shocking.
00:08:59.000 The entire masculinity to them was just wildly unusual.
00:09:05.000 They had never seen a man.
00:09:06.000 So there's a lot of stuff I learned.
00:09:08.000 I also learned that, you know, her daughter, Zoe, is from a sperm donor.
00:09:13.000 She told me that she was adopted.
00:09:14.000 I learned that in a deposition.
00:09:17.000 And, you know, I probably wouldn't have married her had I known that.
00:09:21.000 Well, there's, there's, I want to, you know, explore this a little bit more.
00:09:25.000 So how old is your son now?
00:09:27.000 Okay, so your son is 10.
00:09:27.000 10.
00:09:30.000 I mean, not that your son's wishes mean anything, because if a 10-year-old wants to be a girl, that doesn't mean anything because lots of 10-year-olds are confused.
00:09:37.000 But does your 10-year-old want to transition or is this your well?
00:09:40.000 He's been asked that by every court appointed psychologist.
00:09:44.000 And we've had three or four of them.
00:09:46.000 And he says the same thing every time.
00:09:49.000 The thing that your audience really needs to know about James is James only presents as a girl with his mother.
00:09:54.000 With everybody else and me, he presents as a boy.
00:09:57.000 So when he's with me, he's a boxer.
00:09:58.000 He plays football.
00:09:59.000 He does all the things with all of his friends are boys.
00:10:02.000 He hangs out with boys, plays video games, all things that boys do, goes hunting rabbits with me.
00:10:08.000 When he's with his mom, he's a girl.
00:10:09.000 And the counsel is asking him, well, why do you dress as a girl with your mom?
00:10:12.000 And he says, mom doesn't love me if I'm not a girl.
00:10:15.000 Very simple.
00:10:17.000 Okay, I want to talk about some of the ramifications now with California.
00:10:22.000 And I mean, this is part of the issue, everybody.
00:10:24.000 This transgender stuff is hitting children younger and younger.
00:10:28.000 And the laws that are being written are going to interfere with very basic parental rights.
00:10:34.000 So with us is Jeff Younger.
00:10:36.000 Jeff, thanks for being here.
00:10:37.000 Tell us about your recent legal challenge.
00:10:40.000 And I'm just curious, why did you represent yourself as pro se?
00:10:47.000 Walk our audience through that.
00:10:49.000 Well, first of all, I've spent over $1.5 million in litigation costs already just to stop my son from being chemically castrated.
00:10:58.000 If you go out to the electronic filing site for this case, it's like 50 pages long.
00:11:06.000 It's the most prolific case in family court, I believe, in Texas history.
00:11:11.000 My ex-wife has sued me continuously now for nine years.
00:11:15.000 I've never not been in a lawsuit for nine years.
00:11:18.000 Secondly, while I called and canvassed many conservative appellate attorneys in the state of Texas, none of them would return my call.
00:11:26.000 They are afraid of the transgender lobby.
00:11:29.000 They're afraid of the Texas establishment, which supports the transgender lobby.
00:11:35.000 So where do things stand now?
00:11:38.000 So right now, your son is in California.
00:11:42.000 Is that correct?
00:11:42.000 My son lives in California.
00:11:44.000 And all I know is that he's in LA County.
00:11:45.000 That's all I'm allowed to know.
00:11:46.000 I don't know his address.
00:11:48.000 I'm not allowed to contact him by telephone or by FaceTime.
00:11:52.000 I can only have supervised visitation in LA County, so I got to fly there, arrange for supervised visitation.
00:11:58.000 I've calculated the cost.
00:12:00.000 It's about $3,200 per visit.
00:12:02.000 I'm going to have to do that every month to meet California's contact requirements in order to maintain my parental rights.
00:12:10.000 So I'm looking over the next year at spending $40,000 to $50,000 just to visit my kids.
00:12:17.000 How can people support you, Jeff, and get behind this important fight that you're involved in?
00:12:22.000 So the most important thing for people to do is to make sure that their Texas, that their state legislatures enact laws protecting children from puberty blockers and from transgender surgery procedures, and to also pass laws to prevent courts from sending children to transgender sanctuary states or abortion sanctuary states.
00:12:44.000 People forget that California is also an abortion sanctuary state, so is Colorado.
00:12:48.000 Children can be shopped around just the same way with abortion.
00:12:52.000 So the most important thing for me, the best way you can support me, is to get your state to pass laws to protect children.
00:13:00.000 I don't need your money.
00:13:01.000 What I need you to do is get politically active and get laws passed to keep children safe.
00:13:06.000 Jeff, thank you.
00:13:06.000 We're praying for your son and we pray for your courage.
00:13:09.000 Thank you so much.
00:13:10.000 Salo.
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00:16:01.000 Joining us now is Chloe Cole, who is a female XX, suspiciously, which is what she says, suspiciously photogenic, former trans kid, T plus blockers at 13, double mastectomy at 15, and D-transed at 16.
00:16:16.000 Quite a story.
00:16:17.000 Chloe, welcome to the program.
00:16:20.000 Thank you for having me.
00:16:21.000 Chloe, tell our audience your story.
00:16:27.000 I'm biologically female, but at the age of 12, I started expressing to my parents and family that I wanted to transition to a boy.
00:16:36.000 And they decided that the best thing to do would be able, I mean, would be to take me to the therapist to figure out what was going on and how to handle this.
00:16:49.000 And pretty much immediately I was just put on the path of affirmation.
00:16:56.000 And just a matter of months after getting diagnosed with gender dysphoria, at 13, I was put on, I was put on puberty blockers first.
00:17:05.000 And then about a month or so afterward, I was put on testosterone.
00:17:09.000 And a few years later, in my sophomore year of high school, I got a double mastectomy.
00:17:16.000 But I very soon realized my regret and that this wasn't the right decision.
00:17:23.000 And I stopped transitioning only about a year after that when I was 16.
00:17:27.000 And I've been speaking out since.
00:17:31.000 So when you decided that you wanted to transition or that you thought you were something else, what age were you?
00:17:39.000 I was 12.
00:17:40.000 You were 12.
00:17:41.000 And did your parents ever say, no, you aren't?
00:17:46.000 Or did your parents ever say this might be a bad decision?
00:17:54.000 I mean, at first, they were pretty, I would say they were pretty neutral about it.
00:17:58.000 They weren't like pushing back on it too much as far as socially transitioning.
00:18:03.000 But once I started expressing that I wanted to go further and medically transition, they actually pushed back on it a little bit.
00:18:10.000 They wanted to bump the brakes because I was so young.
00:18:13.000 My dad wanted me to wait until I was 18.
00:18:16.000 But when the medical professionals talked to them about this, they told them that this is pretty much the only way to treating my dysphoria and that I would be at a pretty huge risk of suicide were I not affirmed.
00:18:34.000 But now you decided to detransition, basically saying that I made the made a decision that you wish you would not have.
00:18:46.000 Do you believe that you were lied to or manipulated by the medical industrial complex?
00:18:55.000 Absolutely.
00:18:57.000 They gave me the impression that this would, you know, that I had this, I had this disorder and that the only means of treating it, that this was the only means of treating it and that it would make me into happier and healthier, more whole person.
00:19:14.000 It's been quite the opposite.
00:19:16.000 I mean, it over the course of my transition, it just, it tore me apart.
00:19:22.000 And I mean, I was a completely healthy kid before, but now from both the surgery and the blockers and the testosterone, I'm suffering from some pretty serious complications to this day.
00:19:40.000 So you were brought into this through this idea of gender affirming care.
00:19:46.000 What does that mean?
00:19:48.000 That sounds so light and lovely and soft and gentle, when in reality, it's harsh and I believe cruel and irreversible.
00:19:58.000 What is it?
00:20:01.000 I mean, that's exactly what it is.
00:20:03.000 It is gender-affirming care is a euphemism, like a lot of things that they, a lot of the terms that they use.
00:20:12.000 Like when they, when I was undergoing the consultations for my mastectomy, they were referring to it.
00:20:17.000 It was always referred to as top surgery.
00:20:22.000 Which, I mean, all these, all these, all these phrases make it sound more cheery and less less serious than it really is.
00:20:31.000 Yeah, and so.
00:20:32.000 And it makes, yeah.
00:20:33.000 No, no, please continue.
00:20:34.000 It makes it so that it makes it so that kids don't really, I mean, when you're a kid, you can't really fathom just how serious this is and really extrapolate into how this might affect you in the future in the first place.
00:20:46.000 But all these cutesy phrases they use really don't help.
00:20:54.000 So, look, first of all, you're very brave and for speaking out and for going through the process.
00:21:02.000 Is there a process for detransition that the medical community offers?
00:21:07.000 Yeah, I wasn't really offered any help, actually.
00:21:11.000 No, of course not.
00:21:12.000 So, so let me get this straight.
00:21:13.000 So, there's a process to mutilate you, but not a process to maybe say, I regret this.
00:21:20.000 Is that correct?
00:21:23.000 Yeah, that's really how it seemed.
00:21:26.000 I mean, I remember expressing explicitly to my endocrinologist that I regretted my transition.
00:21:35.000 I no longer transitioned.
00:21:36.000 I no longer identified as a boy.
00:21:39.000 And I had to request my own blood work to see where my hormone levels were at.
00:21:44.000 And when she gave back the results, the guidelines for the average hormone levels for somebody my age were for a teenage boy instead of a girl.
00:21:57.000 And when I told my gender specialist and my therapist that I regretted it, they really couldn't help me.
00:22:06.000 I mean, your therapist couldn't help you.
00:22:12.000 Yeah, I mean, anything other than so, California has a law against conversion therapy, and they include gender identity in that.
00:22:22.000 And it pretty much makes it so that anything other than the affirmative care model is considered conversion therapy.
00:22:29.000 So they couldn't really do much.
00:22:30.000 They couldn't like suggest, they couldn't really.
00:22:32.000 Wait, wait, hold on.
00:22:33.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:22:34.000 Wait a second.
00:22:34.000 But if you're converting from a man to a woman, isn't that conversion therapy?
00:22:42.000 You'd say that.
00:22:43.000 So then what is the prohibition against?
00:22:45.000 Against regret?
00:22:49.000 It doesn't make sense.
00:22:50.000 None of it makes sense.
00:22:52.000 Okay.
00:22:53.000 Yeah.
00:22:53.000 So, look, first of all, you're very brave, and it's awful what happened to you, these medieval therapists and psychiatrists.
00:23:01.000 There are so many of them in this country that have done such damage to children and are still doing damage to them.
00:23:07.000 In fact, the amount of medical mutilation has doubled in the last five years of young children.
00:23:14.000 In closing here, Chloe, you're suing.
00:23:16.000 What is your message to parents that are being confronted by children who want to medically mutilate themselves before the ages of 18?
00:23:30.000 The best thing to do is really to show them that you love them without affirming this delusion that they are the opposite sex.
00:23:41.000 Because really, that's all it is.
00:23:44.000 They're not the opposite sex as much as they want to be.
00:23:47.000 No matter what I did to myself, no matter what surgery I got, I never would be able to become a man.
00:23:53.000 I still would have been a biological female, and that's something that stays constant throughout life.
00:23:59.000 And most children do desist by the time they are an adult, they become comfortable with themselves and their sex.
00:24:14.000 But even, even if, even if it's just not something that any kid can consent to, and oftentimes,
00:24:29.000 this desire to transition stems from not really doing anything, not really being as involved in their communities or at school as much as they should.
00:24:46.000 And so they, because they're not really doing much, they start to look inward and it creates this makes it so that they're excessively introspecting.
00:25:00.000 And really, I think the best thing to do is to not only stay very involved in their lives, but also make sure that they're involved at school, in clubs, or sports, or extracurricular activities.
00:25:13.000 Chloe, God bless you.
00:25:14.000 We're behind you.
00:25:15.000 I hope that the criminals that did this to you are held accountable.
00:25:18.000 They probably won't be because our current system protects the mutilation and abuse of children and not the helping of children.
00:25:25.000 But I hope you sue, and we're behind you 100%.
00:25:29.000 Chloe Cole, God bless you.
00:25:30.000 Thank you so much.
00:25:32.000 Appreciate it.
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00:26:50.000 One of the themes that we have been exploring this hour is the tragedy of the trans lobby agenda and movement.
00:27:04.000 Let me read this email from my wife, Erica, that she received for her ministry.
00:27:11.000 She does Bible in 365, where she helps people read the Bible in a whole year.
00:27:15.000 You guys should check it out: Biblein365.com.
00:27:18.000 Erica, thank you for reading this.
00:27:20.000 Please pray for the salvation of my two beautiful daughters.
00:27:23.000 My husband and I have tried every avenue to keep our kids on the righteous path: private homeschool, private Christian school, homeschool, conservative values.
00:27:30.000 My husband is both a U.S. Marine and a blank state trooper.
00:27:34.000 I'm not going to say the state for their privacy.
00:27:36.000 I stayed home with the kids and recently started dispatching for the police now that they are teenagers.
00:27:43.000 We are lifelong Christians and have begun the conversion to Catholicism.
00:27:48.000 Despite all of this, both of my girls believe they are trans and have adopted male names and pronouns.
00:27:55.000 I don't know how to reach them without pushing them further away.
00:27:59.000 Simple prayers that they would embrace the bodies that God gave them would mean so much to my family.
00:28:05.000 Thanks so much, M.
00:28:09.000 And we're hearing this more and more, and it is a growing tragedy.
00:28:13.000 And it's for a lot of different reasons.
00:28:15.000 It's not because more people are now confident to feel trans.
00:28:20.000 No, it's young women in particular that feel uncomfortable in their bodies because of puberty and social pressure and bullying and the inability to fit in.
00:28:30.000 They then now have been offered a false and a fake escape hatch to be able to say that you're a different gender.
00:28:39.000 And it is a fabrication.
00:28:41.000 Of course, these young women, they deserve love and compassion.
00:28:46.000 They deserve guidance and parenting.
00:28:48.000 Instead, they are infected by a social contagion.
00:28:51.000 And let me be very clear: not all of them, but many of them are victim to this.
00:28:56.000 Most of this is mistreated puberty, is really what it is.
00:29:03.000 Is that it's young women that are experiencing changing bodies, changing hormones.
00:29:09.000 They're not fitting in very well.
00:29:11.000 Puberty is very upsetting for a lot of girls.
00:29:14.000 And so now, when you're upset and you're not right in your body, instead of having a parent come in and do what a parent should do, the parent is all of a sudden listening to this cacophony of psychiatrists, many of whom should be in prison for child abuse.
00:29:28.000 And the state now co-parenting with the child, with the parent, and they just kind of put their hands up in surrender and they say, well, maybe I guess our child needs to be on Zoloft and Prozac and benzodiazepans and Lupron.
00:29:42.000 And it is a social contagion.
00:29:45.000 Now, I don't doubt for a second that there are some people who are 12 or 13 years old that think they are another gender.
00:29:53.000 They'll mainly get over that.
00:29:55.000 And if not, then when they're 19 or 20 and they are a legal adult, they can do what they wish to do when they're 19 or 20, when their hormones have balanced out, when their neurochemistry has stopped going through dramatic growth.
00:30:11.000 Look, anyone who's been around 11, 12 or 13 year olds, let alone 11, 12, 13 year old girls, you know that it's not exactly the most, it's not an age where reason reigns supreme.
00:30:24.000 It's just not.
00:30:25.000 And that's a fact.
00:30:26.000 It doesn't dehumanize them.
00:30:28.000 It's not something to trivialize, but it should be factored in whether or not you should do irreversible medical surgery and should you play into that social contagion.
00:30:37.000 And this is the immorality of gender affirming care.
00:30:45.000 You should not affirm something that is not true.
00:30:50.000 It should be gender challenging care or just care in general should be, yeah, you're actually not a woman or you're not actually a man.
00:31:00.000 Let me tell you what you are and what you could be, what you could flourish to, the heights you could flourish towards.
00:31:08.000 And instead, the pharmaceutical industrial complex, which is so predatory, they're making billions of dollars off of this.
00:31:20.000 They are funding groups and nonprofits and they've taken over the entire psychiatric industry.
00:31:24.000 But look, boomers would be like, wow, I regret those bell bottoms.
00:31:28.000 Gen X, I regret that weird haircut.
00:31:30.000 Millennials, I regret going goth and emo.
00:31:33.000 Gen Z, I regret medical mutilation.
00:31:37.000 Parents have stopped being parents a long time ago and said they're friends of their children.
00:31:41.000 I see it all the time.
00:31:42.000 TikTok has played a very big role in this.
00:31:44.000 And tragically, unfortunately, these are irreversible decisions.
00:31:48.000 It is a social contagion that is spreading virally.
00:31:52.000 It is not slowing down.
00:31:54.000 It is institutionalized.
00:31:56.000 It is now baked into the power structures of our society.
00:32:00.000 It's a tragedy.
00:32:00.000 Right now, there will be thousands of young women that will make an irreversible decision in the coming months.
00:32:06.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:32:08.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:11.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:32:13.000 God bless.
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