00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:01.000What is science and where did it come from?
00:00:04.000The unusual Christian roots of the scientific revolution.
00:00:09.000Also, a courageous governor in Montana.
00:00:12.000And I really haven't weighed in on this topic very much, but the topic of global warming and climate change from a reasonable perspective is something that we talk about in this episode.
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00:01:30.000Science, Montana, climate change, and more.
00:01:56.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:11.000I grew up in Chicago listening to AM560, The Answer.
00:02:15.000So this sort of weather is nothing that I'm unfamiliar with.
00:02:20.000I just spent some great time with Governor Gianforte, who's doing an amazing job for Montana.
00:02:26.000He signed, unlike other governors, a bill that prohibits men from competing in female sports.
00:02:33.000He signed, unlike other governors, clear and courageous pro-life legislation.
00:02:38.000Governor Gianforte has signed in protections for small businesses so that they can open up again against any sort of criticism or potential lawsuits when it comes to the Chinese coronavirus.
00:02:54.000Governor Gianforte is one of the few governors in the country that is standing up against what the leftists in Washington, D.C. are trying to do.
00:03:03.000Other governors have disappointed us in the last couple of months.
00:03:09.000Governor Gianforte signed a bill that said he will not enforce federal gun laws in the beautiful state of Montana.
00:03:15.000His mission statement is to keep Montana, Montana.
00:03:21.000In a world where so much is changing and there's progress for the sake of progress, we as conservatives must be very clear that we stand for things that matter, things that are eternal, things that are beautiful.
00:03:34.000And we want some things to stay the same.
00:04:18.000And you want to keep Montana, Montana.
00:04:20.000You don't want the radicals from Seattle or Portland to come into Bozeman or come into billings and be able to impose their beliefs on a state that works and a state that is the envy of so many others.
00:04:33.000And what's happening in Montana is an example of the great squeeze we've talked about all across the country.
00:04:42.000This top-down revolution of the most powerful people in the country that are using their power, their wealth, to try to crush normal people.
00:04:52.000You see, there's something that bothers the ruling class about Montana.
00:04:57.000They don't like the fact that they own guns, that they care about their local church, their local small business, that they're a little bit skeptical about Amazon and Walmart and these mega corporations running the entire country.
00:05:15.000And so, because of that, they want to execute the great squeeze.
00:05:18.000They want to try and disenfranchise the people of Montana through mass immigration from other states and, yes, mass immigration into our country.
00:05:28.000And so, if you actually go down to the fundamental word conservative, we want to conserve things that work, things that are eternal, things that are beautiful.
00:05:37.000And that includes what I'm looking at here as the winter wonderland on the 21st of May here in Montana.
00:05:43.000And that's exactly what Governor Gianforte is doing.
00:05:47.000On every single issue that matters to conservatives, he has excelled and succeeded, critical race theory.
00:05:53.000He has required now the Pledge of Allegiance and civic education is back into the schools in Montana.
00:06:02.000He's been the best on the Second Amendment of any single governor in the country.
00:06:06.000He has lifted the mask mandate all across the state of Montana.
00:06:09.000I actually saw the face of my waiter here in Montana.
00:06:13.000It was actually a very interesting thing.
00:06:16.000And so when we look at who's actually doing a good job, and I've been very critical of Governor Burnham of North Dakota.
00:06:25.000I've been very critical of, it's a guy from Arkansas name.
00:06:28.000It's not a name worth remembering, the corporate guy, Asa Hutchinson.
00:06:34.000The Walmart guy who decided that he thought that it was a good idea to allow children to chemically castrate themselves.
00:06:41.000We have been lifting up Governor DeSantis, and we should, but we should also lift up some of these other Republican governors, the few, the proud, that have decided to play offense.
00:06:51.000The only way to deal with the situation at hand is to play offense.
00:06:56.000The only way to deal with this cultural blitzkrieg that we have been living through and we've been experiencing is to actually take terrain, is to show people why we believe what we believe.
00:07:07.000And maybe Montana will become less attractive to the California leftists and Democrats the more policies that we implement.
00:07:14.000All of a sudden, when California says, you know what, we're going to take stances on the transgender deal.
00:07:20.000We are going to allow businesses to fully reopen.
00:07:24.000And we are going to stop the unemployment benefits, which, by the way, is a huge problem across the country.
00:07:28.000We are subsidizing inactivity, and we have a labor crisis in our country made possible because of an overreaching federal government that has decided to subsidize people not working when we need to get people back into work and having fulfilling wages and jobs that are able to provide for their family.
00:07:46.000And so this goes to a deeper point of why people rose up in record numbers last November and where the Republican Party needs to lean in on this.
00:07:55.000People are afraid things are changing too quickly.
00:08:18.000Instead, conservatives and Republicans should, as demonstrated by Ron DeSantis and Greg Gianforte, say, we got elected to preserve the beautiful and to not allow the parasites from some of these other states to infect and destroy our beloved state, our communities, or our families.
00:08:40.000This is a different type of conservatism, by the way.
00:08:43.000The conservatism that existed 10 years ago was a progressive conservatism.
00:08:48.000It was a, hey, our idea of social change is we're going to bring in a bunch of plastic from China and you're going to like it.
00:08:56.000We're going to bring in another 100 million Elon Omars into our country and you're going to like it.
00:09:02.000Progressive conservatism is this idea that we are going to play into the historicist lie of Hegel and somehow we are going to be able to, for the sake of progress, just because it's a word that we're supposed to like, play into this.
00:09:17.000Now, of course, some things we should make progress on, obviously.
00:09:21.000We should try to end the scourge of abortion in our country.
00:09:23.000We should try and do everything we possibly can to make things in our country again.
00:09:29.000But whenever you say the word again, is it really progress or is it restoration?
00:09:34.000You see, progress, this word that we have decided to fall in love with, think progress, or we must always be moving forward, is a very dangerous thing because the more you indulge in it, the more you're actually declaring war on human nature.
00:09:47.000The more you're saying is human beings are malleable, put us in charge, remove the guardrails, give us a bunch of power, and we are going to remake America in the image that we see fit.
00:09:57.000And conservatives need to be very clear.
00:09:59.000There are institutions that work, institutions that are moral, like the family, like having children, like attending church, like middle-class work, like small businesses, rejecting a corporate oligarchy, enjoying the natural, beautiful landscape like we see in Montana.
00:10:14.000And we should be unapologetic of defending them against those that wish to change things for the sake of change because they're either bored, devoid of purpose, or their purpose is to always impose their beliefs on others.
00:10:27.000So I just want to give a hat tip to my friend, Greg Gianforte.
00:10:56.000It's something that we teach our children, or we should.
00:10:59.000It's being just gradually, not even gradually, it's being steadily destroyed by people that are pathological in nature and basically want to use their power to try to have children believe that there's no such thing as objective truth.
00:11:21.000And so we know about the scientific revolution, and we know about Galileo Galilee, who famously was imprisoned for daring to question this idea that the earth was not the center of our galaxy.
00:11:37.000Instead, that we revolved around the sun.
00:12:40.000But there was something that happened in the 1500s and 1600s that birthed what is now known as the scientific revolution.
00:12:50.000You see, prior to Christians really taking science seriously, largely because of Thomas Aquinas, who famously argued that Christians should be unafraid to use reason as a way to support their faith, math and the inquiry into the natural world was never very well organized.
00:13:14.000Instead, science was kind of an offshoot exercise.
00:13:18.000It was something that was done to try and either a passion project or try to achieve a greater goal.
00:13:29.000You see, but it was the Christian ethic that believed the natural world was one that we were commanded to try to exercise dominion over.
00:13:39.000Christians turned astrology into astronomy, alchemy into chemistry, and math into the language of science.
00:13:48.000Sir Isaac Newton, who is well known for writing, the Prispia Mathematica, he, of course, modeled orbits due to gravity.
00:13:59.000He came up with his three laws of Newtonian physics: force equals mass times acceleration, an object at rest will stay at rest, and for every action, there's equal and opposite reaction.
00:14:09.000But did you know that Sir Isaac Newton wrote more extensively about biblical prophecy, over 1 million words, more than he ever wrote about physics?
00:14:20.000What they will not teach you in school is that people of faith were actually the drivers behind the scientific revolution.
00:14:28.000In fact, a researcher by the last name of Ruster made an all-star type list of the top 52 scientists that pioneered the scientific revolution.
00:14:38.000He found that 50 of 52 were Christians and 60% of them were devout who did their science for the glory of God.
00:14:48.000Science is an inquiry into the mastery of the natural world.
00:14:52.000Science is a question, the development of scholarship that allows us through empirical and theoretical and practical knowledge to be able to make sense of everything around us, of real world phenomena.
00:15:13.000And because of that, this idea of the scientific method was born, thanks to Sir Francis Bacon.
00:15:20.000It was always something that was supposed to be against the ideologues, against people that came with a certain belief.
00:15:27.000It was always supposed to be empirically driven, not by people that wished to have a certain outcome.
00:15:37.000Now, I have recently had a little bit of a, let's just say, tussle with people who call themselves scientists.
00:15:45.000Science, as we know it, Was large in part thanks to what will now be known as medieval Christianity.
00:15:56.000Before it, there were people that were doing one-off discoveries, and the Greeks had a different view of the natural world, which is largely because, which is largely why they never actually created institutions that were solely focused on science.
00:16:09.000And I can already hear the chattering class, and Aristotle had the Lyceum, and he was as close to a scientist as one could get.
00:16:16.000But you see, the Greeks had a different view of the cosmos.
00:16:21.000The Bible argued that there was a definitive beginning of the universe, and that the cosmos were not eternal, only God is eternal.
00:16:30.000That is the difference between a Greek theological view and a traditional biblical, a Jewish or Christian view of God.
00:16:40.000So, therefore, once Christians started to become interested in the natural world, into the material world, there started to become momentum around this.
00:16:52.000This is also why Eastern cultures, specifically those that practice Buddhism or the ideas of spiritual ascension, never took science very seriously.
00:17:04.000You see, in the Buddhist principle, they believe that life is suffering.
00:17:09.000So, they believe that everything around you, the material world, is the enemy, and that your spiritual ascension is the most important thing a human being can do.
00:17:18.000And this is directly at odds with a Christian view, which believes that God came into the material world, manifested Himself within the material world, walked amongst it, healed it, taught in it, died in it, and then re-emerged and resurrected himself in material form, not just spiritual form.
00:17:37.000And so, because of this view, science as we know it, which of course is the mastery and the inquiry into the natural world through empirical and practical methods, is something that is largely thanks to the West.
00:17:53.000So, as we know that now, we are being preached, we are being just talked all the time.
00:17:58.000We are being instructed, but you must follow the science.
00:18:02.000And so, I gave a speech with the great Candace Owens, who was our communications director at Turning Point USA for a couple of years.
00:18:08.000And this speech must have been a couple years ago.
00:18:10.000I don't even remember where I gave this speech with her.
00:18:12.000We traveled the country, we went from UCLA to UC Berkeley to Texas, we were all across the country.
00:18:20.000And it was a speech with Candace Owens where we were talking about global warming and climate change, which, of course, is basically a pseudo-religious belief amongst the collectivists.
00:18:34.000There's a lot of things you're allowed to talk about.
00:18:36.000You are not allowed to talk about global warming at all.
00:18:41.000It was basically an agnostic position.
00:18:45.000Agnostic coming from two Greek words, ag and gnosis, without knowledge.
00:18:49.000We were saying we don't know enough to be able to say that we want to massively redefine the American economy and with it the global economy because we have some questions.
00:19:02.000And so, this organization of apparatchiks is a website, climatefeedback.org.
00:19:09.000It says, quote, in viral video, Turning Point USA, Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk falsely claim there's no evidence of global warming.
00:19:20.000And so, what we did say is that there were rising global temperatures, but we don't know what the cause of those global temperatures are.
00:19:29.000We said that it very well might not be human activity.
00:19:34.000We said that it could be solar sunspots or natural activity.
00:19:38.000It could be a variety of different things outside of just human activity or carbon emissions.
00:19:47.000Now, very few people even know what our energy grid looks like.
00:19:51.000Currently, we have 30% of our energy consumption as oil globally, 28% as coal, 22% as natural gas, 3% as hydropower, and 6% as nuclear.
00:20:03.000Now, obviously, they want to reduce this, and without even talking about who the largest energy consumer in the world is, the Chinese, and 59% of all Chinese energy comes from burning coal.
00:20:21.000I just want to frame this correctly, which is the world uses about 100 million barrels of oil a day.
00:20:28.000And fossil fuels provide 99.5% of all the energy used in transportation.
00:20:36.000And so if you look at America's energy grid, about 11% are renewable energy, 11% coal, 8% nuclear power, which again, the left doesn't want, 37% petroleum, and 32% natural gas.
00:20:50.000And so you look at what the activists are really focused on, and you're not allowed to say any of this, of course not, but the Earth's climate has changed many times over the last 12,000 years.
00:21:06.000There are these things called interglacial cycles.
00:21:10.000And so according to the Utah Geological Survey, there have been ebbs and flows, increases and decreases of global temperatures over the last 450,000 years.
00:21:22.000And we are in now an interglacial period.
00:21:26.000And if you look at just some of these ups and downs, for example, 200,000 years ago, according to the Utah Geological Survey, global temperatures were around 15 degrees Celsius on average, and now they're around 33 degrees Celsius.
00:21:46.000So we have evidence to show that temperatures went up absent of human activity.
00:21:50.000So it's a natural question to ask, is what we are experiencing now slight rising global temperatures, one degree Celsius over the last 100 years, is this because of increased carbon emissions?
00:22:02.000Or are we part of a broader interglacial period?
00:22:06.000And then let's just ask the question, are there any positives to what is happening now?
00:22:10.000So we are 2,000 years past the average of 10,000 years.
00:22:14.000Now, glacial periods mean less plant growth and things get more cold.
00:22:20.000Glacial periods mean that the oceans will absorb more CO2, carbon dioxide.
00:22:25.000And glacial periods last about 90,000 years.
00:22:30.000So just so we're clear, the Earth was warmer during the Roman and medieval warm periods.
00:22:37.000The Earth was warmer during the Roman and medieval periods.
00:22:42.000And now, this is according to HAL INSU Archives, and I'll cite all this on CharlieKirk.com.
00:22:51.000So these scientists don't like it when you just ask some very simple questions, which is, can you attribute to what is happening right now to more human activity?
00:23:03.000Well, did you know that the world is greener than it ever has been?
00:23:07.000Do you know that we have more greenery on the face of the earth than ever before?
00:23:16.000And 8 billion people are better fed today because the world is greener.
00:23:21.000Doomsayers and people that wished that, or they wished they thought the world was going to end, never thought that was going to happen.
00:23:29.000In fact, the fact that our world is greening everywhere includes grasslands and deserts.
00:23:35.000And that means that there's higher than expected CO2 fertilization inferred from leaf and global observations.
00:23:42.000So, long term, and this is something that the scientists that run the fact-checking department don't need to talk about, that temperature and CO2 do not correlate long term.
00:23:53.000For example, continuous temperature readings since 1659 from England show that temperatures have ups and downs, yet CO2 was constant until about 1950 when it started to climb from about 300 ppm to 415 ppm.
00:24:08.000So, basically, this organization, climate feedback, they went hard against us to try to remove our social media posts.
00:24:15.000But what I just love, it's the most delicious part of this entire thing was when they had the scientist feedback at the end of this article at climatefeedback.org.
00:24:27.000And I just laughed because of what this guy, Steven Pochendli, who's allegedly a research scientist at Lawrence Livemore National Laboratory, he quoted the IPCC, which, of course, we quoted some of their data as well, which I found to be just so fascinating.
00:24:46.000And I just love this quote that he uses.
00:24:49.000He says, according to the IPCC, it says, quote, it's extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of observed warming since the mid-20th century.
00:25:06.000Sir Isaac Newton and Sir Francis Bacon and Galileo Galilee are spinning in their graves if this is the way we are now doing science, saying extremely likely.
00:25:21.000You see, science requires you to use the scientific method.
00:25:26.000Did you know that there are 31,000, I'm sorry, 33,000 scientists that challenge the consensus on global warming?
00:25:38.000That 31,000, I'm sorry, according to the OSS Foundation.us, 31,000 scientists say that, quote, there is no convincing evidence that humans can or will cause global warming.
00:25:52.000And yet, according to this fact-check group of activists, they are using the label of science to try to effectuate a specific political outcome.
00:26:05.000Science is under attack by activists that want things to be true because we have built this belief of science of the Bacon, Newton, Galileo tradition that we are going to be disciplined, open-minded, and show, and just wherever the observation, research, hypothesis, testing, analyzing, and reporting takes us, that's where we're going to go.
00:26:28.000And that's the scientific method, which is observation, research, hypothesis, testing, analyzing, and reporting.
00:26:35.000And the absent of inquiry into the natural world, and we just say we already have all the answers, and no matter where it takes us, we're going to go.
00:26:49.000Just to give you a small example of how science is being corrupted, the American Medical Association, which is headquartered in Chicago, has said that they want to embed racial justice in the medical profession.
00:27:01.000They are corrupting the objective to try to achieve the subjective.
00:27:10.000Science is supposed to be absent of politics, but the left is smarter than that.
00:27:15.000They know that if they can take over the label of what scientists and science believe, then they can assume complete and power control over the country.
00:27:25.000The scientists that are running our public discourse have a lot of questions around the environment that they have not answered.
00:27:33.000And I want to thank my friend Frank Lasse, who has helped really educate so many people, including myself, on this topic.
00:27:44.000Why has the earth been naturally warming since about 1700 without increased CO2?
00:27:52.000Why are the activists who call themselves scientists alarmed when it has been warmer in the past and life was better for human beings recently during the Roman and medieval periods?
00:28:01.000What warmed and cooled the earth in the past?
00:28:04.000Could it be a major cause today, such as the sun, volcanoes, or increased or decreased cloud cover?
00:28:11.000Wouldn't it be better to adapt to Mother Nature rather than to fight her?
00:28:15.000And what has ended prior warming interglacial periods leading to 90,000 years of glaciers?
00:28:23.000And again, we are now nearing 12,000 years into an interglacial period.
00:28:28.000Interglacial periods historically last about 10,000 years on average.
00:28:33.000And here's a very fundamental question.
00:28:37.000Is a warmer world better than a colder world for humans, plants, or animals?
00:28:45.000And at what cost are you willing to shut off a wealth creating engine of the American economy to achieve what aim and what does success look like?
00:28:56.000These are questions that the activists who call themselves scientists refuse to answer.
00:29:03.000And what we really have here, the reason why science is under attack, is the same reason that you have people say that I have my truth.
00:29:12.000No, there is only the truth that you can prove.
00:29:17.000And science has always been a place where your ideology, your preferences, your pathology gets checked at the door.
00:29:32.000We now have scientists making pathological and emotional arguments that have removed themselves from objective measurement using the scientific method of testing a hypothesis.
00:29:47.000And instead of answering the questions that I put forward, we have the exact opposite occurring.
00:29:54.000We have people that are using their power and at their disposal to try to stifle discussion.
00:30:07.000So they say that 97% of scientists agree on some sort of consensus on man-made global warming.
00:30:16.000Galileo Galilee was imprisoned for challenging the status quo when it came to what now is known as the heliocentric theory of gravitational orbit.
00:30:38.000Dissenting voices have always been protected and taken seriously in science.
00:30:44.000And if we are now going to censor people on social media, which effectively which this entire thing was about, sciencefeedback.org, by a mere up or down votes of scientists, well, then that's not science.
00:31:00.000You see, Charlie's claim in the video is that 99% of scientists agreeing on something just makes it just an opinion.
00:31:07.000Sciencefeedback.org says that something, while something is true, there should be 100% agreement.
00:31:14.000Well, this is a significant misunderstanding how science works, really.
00:31:17.000By this reasoning, nothing can be known to human beings would ever be considered true.
00:31:21.000We're talking about scientists here, science feedback, to show me a scientist that does not accept force equals mass times acceleration.
00:31:28.000And prove to me the fact that man is contributing, not your little sneaky words, extremely likely.
00:31:36.000Well, back in the 1300s, the Catholic Church said that it was extremely likely that the earth was the center of the universe.
00:31:43.000When you put dogma first with no facts, your society unravels, which is what the pathological activists are doing to our country.
00:31:55.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:31:56.000Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.