A group chat that was started on a secure messaging application called Signal was leaked to the media, and the results have the media and the general public in an uproar. We read the entire group chat, and tell you exactly what happened.
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00:03:37.000So I'm going to read this entire group conversation and this group chat conversation, and I'm going to tell you exactly how on earth we have been led...
00:03:47.000To have a window into these private discussions.
00:03:50.000J.D. Vance writes at first, Pete Hegseth replies, VP.
00:04:14.000I fully share your loathing of European freeloading.
00:06:09.000To go have a window into all of these private national security conversations.
00:06:15.000Now before I go deeper into that element of this, I do want to make sure that we are clear about what we've just read.
00:06:24.000What you've read is that both privately and publicly, there is symmetry with the national security attitudes that Our foreign policy leaders have.
00:06:39.000That there is not a private loathing for the America First policy perspective that they ran on.
00:06:47.000What J.D. Vance believes publicly, he also believes in privately.
00:06:53.000What Pete Hegseth has been saying publicly, he also believes behind closed doors.
00:07:00.000They aren't plotting how to make Elon Musk money.
00:07:03.000We saw the Trump administration was telling the truth about what they care about.
00:07:09.000This is exactly how I'd expect them to speak both publicly and privately.
00:07:14.000They aren't plotting about how to get five points of approval without caring about the outcome.
00:07:23.000Now, how Jeffrey Goldberg got added is likely because Mike Waltz wanted to add the U.S. trade representative Jameson Greer and had the same initials.
00:07:35.000Now allow me to editorialize for a second.
00:08:22.000And the screw-up is allowing this guy to be put in and Michael Walsh doing that.
00:08:29.000And by the way, when you have presidencies and administrations like this, you're going to have little hiccups and you're going to have speed bumps.
00:08:35.000The best way is just to take responsibility, confront it head-on, and say, it was a glitch.
00:09:04.000There are people inside and outside the White House calling for heads to roll over this.
00:09:09.000This was not some sort of intentional, let's allow the head of the Trump-hating Atlantic magazine to have a window into our Signal group chat.
00:09:20.000So situations like this happen throughout presidencies.
00:09:24.000Where things are going a certain way and you have a little bit of a mix-up.
00:09:39.000Because what Pete Hegseth and JD Vance were articulating in this group chat...
00:09:42.000It was an America First policy perspective behind closed doors that when you are not seeing the conversations, they're still fighting for the country and saying, these Europeans are pathetic.
00:09:55.000Do you know what a real scandal would be?
00:09:57.000A real scandal would be if we had J.D. Vance and Pete Hegseth saying, yeah, we have to kind of save face with our base, but the Europeans are actually awesome, but let's pretend that we're tough on Europe.
00:10:13.000A real scandal would be our leaders saying one thing to voters and doing a completely different thing behind closed doors.
00:10:22.000In reality, we just happen to see that behind closed doors they're doing everything they said they were going to do.
00:10:27.000We never should have had that window into closed doors because you don't add the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic magazine to your group chats.
00:10:36.000But thankfully, it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
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00:12:36.000However... Understand that a lot of government and a lot of corporate America and a lot of high-stakes decision-making is occurring in secured group chats.
00:12:46.000The reason being, it's far more efficient to have a group chat with 20 people and they can chime in at the likelihood of their own timing, the own choosing, at their own convenience, than having a conference call where everyone has to be there at the same time and then almost nothing gets done.
00:13:07.000Not defending the elements here, but conference calls are literally hell on earth.
00:13:12.000It is where bureaucrats go to waste time.
00:13:17.000You can have a very substantive back and forth and discussion on hopefully non-classified, non-military matters on a group chat than you can having a conference call.
00:14:57.000This group chat or letting tens of millions of people over the border?
00:15:00.000What's worse, this chat or Democrat mayors sheltering criminals and gangbangers?
00:15:06.000If you are watching the mainstream media right now, you are being subjected to propaganda.
00:15:12.000The people who led America into one gigantic disaster after another are trying to convince you that your relatively mild embarrassment is the worst scandal ever.
00:15:25.000And let's also reiterate, the group chat itself, despite the fact that Jeffrey Goldberg got invited, actually showed a highly competent dialogue amongst people that weighed all the options related to a military strike.
00:15:39.000They are going about the use of American force with prudence, with wisdom, with humility, with sobriety, not with a lustful zeal for blood.
00:15:54.000And conquest in perfect alignment with their public commentary.
00:15:59.000The way that J.D. Vance and Pete Hegseth talked about the use of American force should give you confidence that we are not going to go to a thermonuclear war with Russia.
00:16:09.000Should give you confidence that they go about the use of American missiles and American intervention with a serious degree of weight.
00:16:18.000That it is not something that is thrown around like a frisbee.
00:16:21.000It's not like George W. Bush who wakes up another day and wants to invade another sovereign nation.
00:16:25.000If John Bolton would have been on this group chat, he would have said, this is a waste of time.
00:16:32.000Instead, through a collaborative discussion, we now got an exclusive window, the likes of which we may never see again and that we have not seen for forever, into the...
00:16:44.000Foreign policy calculus of this new administration.
00:16:50.000We got a little bit of a sneak peek into the mindset.
00:16:53.000And embarrassment aside, it actually shows that we're in very capable hands as to how these decisions are being made, who is making them, and them weighing the potential costs of U.S. involvement.
00:17:08.000In a backwards way, it's actually awfully reassuring.
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00:19:46.000We'll probably lose a couple seats from that standpoint.
00:19:48.000Then the next thing they'll do is overturn Act 10. They'll cost Wisconsinites hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars over the time.
00:20:42.000People who didn't vote went from being a somewhat Democratic-leaning group to a group that Trump won by double digits.
00:20:48.000Okay. So the second graph here, we have, for every precinct, we look at what percentage of people voted in 2022.
00:20:54.000And then we just look at what was the change in Democratic vote share from 2020 to 2024.
00:21:00.000And so what you could see here is that for the lowest turnout precincts, you know, Trump increased his vote share by, you know, something like 6%, while for the highest turnout precincts.
00:21:10.000Harris actually increased her support.
00:21:12.000And, you know, that's really the story of this election, is that, you know, people who follow news really closely, who get their news from traditional media, who, like, say that politics is an important part of their identity, they became more democratic in absolute terms.
00:21:26.000So what they're saying here, and that last, that's David Shore, who had a great conversation, Ezra Klein, two lefties, but very thoughtful.
00:21:33.000Senator, what he was saying there at the end is the most astute point when it comes to the Supreme Court race.
00:21:39.000He says those that have politics as part of their identity tend to be more Democrat.
00:21:45.000Well, Senator, people who have politics as part of their identity are more likely to vote in a spring off-year election for a Supreme Court race.
00:21:52.000Therefore, our side must drive turnout of low-propensity voters.
00:22:05.000We want to provide for our families, whereas leftists, they want power.
00:22:10.000They get power by winning elections, by governing and imposing their ideology on us.
00:22:15.000So, again, we need to wake up everybody who voted for President Trump, let them understand what's at stake here on April 1st, and get out and vote.
00:22:24.000I mean, if every Trump voter voted for Brad Schimmel, we would run away with this race.
00:22:30.000But again, in the last Supreme Court race, our Canada only got 800,000 votes versus President Trump's 1.7.
00:22:36.000And of course, the left, the last time, turned that Wisconsin Supreme Court race into the most expensive elected judicial race in history.
00:22:48.000I mean, it's just grotesque, the amount of money the left throws at these things.
00:22:52.000Good news is we've got supporters on our side now that are trying to match those totals.
00:22:57.000But even better news is we've got organizations like yours that realize the way you really win is not running millions and millions of dollars of ads.
00:23:07.000But it's about ground game and getting out to the voters themselves and energizing them and making sure they know how important this race is.
00:23:15.000Senator, can you contrast what you are feeling on the ground?
00:23:17.000You know the state of Wisconsin better than anybody.
00:23:19.000I would put you number one as a Republican and maybe Scott Walker because you have won in the hardest of all terrains.
00:23:26.000I mean, you beat Russ Feingold in 2010.
00:23:28.000I think you beat him again in 2016, if I remember correctly.
00:23:30.000And then you won against Mandela Barnes, I think, in 2020.
00:23:34.000I mean, when all the odds are stacked against Senator Johnson, you triumph.
00:26:07.000And I think, by and large, that's exactly what the people inside the conservative administrations do.
00:26:11.000We certainly see how Vice President Biden, President Biden, violates that by, you know, using all these private email addresses, that type of thing.
00:26:20.000So, again, I caution Republican nominees, don't do that.
00:26:48.000There's no way you can justify it from going from $4.4 trillion in 2019 up to $7.3 trillion this year.
00:26:56.000And particularly when you take a look at the options I've laid out there to return to a pre-pandemic level, whether it's Clinton in 98, Obama in 2014, or Trump in 2019, leave Social Security and Medicare as they are today, plus up the other outlays by population growth and inflation.
00:27:14.000You've got a baseline spending level somewhere between $5.5 and $6.5 trillion.
00:27:19.000$6.5 trillion ought to be the absolute maximum.
00:27:22.000We ought to be considering, unfortunately, the House resolution at most is going to cut about $1.5 trillion over 10 years, which is going to take us from about 7.3 down to, what, 7.1?
00:27:32.000I mean, it's just completely unacceptable.
00:27:35.000So President Trump, he needs to get serious about reducing spending if he's going to accomplish the goal he's laid out there about balancing the budget.
00:27:43.000I don't think anybody that voted for President Trump...
00:27:45.000Thought he would continue spending at Biden's levels.
00:27:48.000And so there's a real, we're loggerheads right now at the House.
00:27:51.000I know they want to pass one big, beautiful bill.
00:27:53.000I think a multi-step process always made more sense.
00:27:58.000Get the border funding to President Trump now.
00:28:00.000I would just, quite honestly, extend current tax law to make sure that we don't have a massive automatic tax increase on the table.
00:28:06.000I'd get those things off the table, get them out of the way, and then start doing the really hard work.
00:28:12.000I'm trying to convince my colleagues, and we've got big spenders in my party too, of returning to a reasonable pre-pandemic level.
00:28:19.000I proposed in the Wall Street Journal a panel made up of House members, senators, and the administration going line by line publicly with members of the administration.
00:30:32.000Our audience says that there is no excuse for this, that we must hold ourselves to a higher standard.
00:30:40.000Very impressed by the audience's high standard.
00:30:44.000In fact, my favorite email says President Trump is working his tail off all day long and has to be distracted by allowing the editor-in-chief, The Atlantic, into a group chat.
00:30:53.000Unacceptable. That is the vibe of the audience, and I think you guys deserve a lot of credit.
00:31:42.000The specific time of a future attack, specific targets, including human targets, meant to be killed in that attack, weapon systems, even weather reports, the precise detail.
00:33:15.000You've got a thoughtful policy discussion going on.
00:33:17.000And we did what the Biden administration would not do, stop these people from harassing our shipping lanes and our boats and our Navy.
00:33:23.000So let me tell you the biggest concern of all.
00:33:26.000If that is correct, and it was government devices that everyone was using Signal with, then why did Mike Waltz on a government device have Jeffrey Goldberg saved on his Signal profile?
00:34:09.000That if it's preloaded on a government device, and this is your government official channels and communication, then how is it saved in your Signal chat?