The Charlie Kirk Show - The Trump Assassination Attempt: Incompetence, or Malevolence? ft. Vivek Ramaswamy, Rep. Cory Mills, Sen. Ron Johnson and Rep. Tom Tiffany

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00:01:57.000 What's up, my man?

00:01:58.000 How are you?

00:01:58.000 Yes, good, good, good.

00:01:59.000 So, Vivek, we haven't connected or talked since Saturday.

00:02:02.000 I'm still numb over the entire thing.

00:02:05.000 First, your reaction, and then I really want to dive into the complexities of how this happened.

00:02:10.000 Yeah, my first reaction was shock, anger.

00:02:16.000 I talked to President Trump that night, 12.30 a.m.

00:02:19.000 The guy was up on his way back, and the thing that was shocking to me was the same level of strength and calm you saw on that stage, that we all saw on that stage.

00:02:29.000 He's going home, responding to text messages, picking up phone calls, and the last thing he says is, you take care of yourself.

00:02:35.000 He's a guy who's just shot, right?

00:02:36.000 Water rolls off a duck is the expression.

00:02:38.000 It's like a bullet rolls off of Donald Trump, and it just gives me... I don't care about what your political beliefs are.

00:02:44.000 I can't tell you how many friends I had, Charlie, too, and family members who say, you know what?

00:02:48.000 They might have been ready to vote for him before, but if I see a guy who's that tough in leading this country, yeah, that's the kind of guy I want to get behind.

00:02:56.000 And so, for me, it was initially a state of shock and anger, and then the second phase was how do we channel that anger to actually Recreate the country that we care about.

00:03:06.000 And I think we have an opening to do it if that's one silver lining to come out of it.

00:03:09.000 I mean, you see a guy who gets shot and he then fights his own agents and says, fight, fight, fight.

00:03:15.000 Let me be very clear.

00:03:16.000 If you are a man in this country and you don't vote for Donald Trump, you're not a man.

00:03:20.000 I mean, like, who are you?

00:03:22.000 You're like, you're not going to vote for that.

00:03:24.000 You know what, actually after that incident, I see a lot of women manning up to vote for Donald Trump. 1.00

00:03:30.000 Whoever you are, if you're still voting for Joe Biden after that, there's something deeply disturbing and wrong with you.

00:03:36.000 I mean seriously.

00:03:37.000 But here's the other thing, because this is important and relevant, especially this week, where I think one of the things I see, the mood is positive, the atmosphere is positive, the polling looked great.

00:03:47.000 There's a lot of gratitude around here right now.

00:03:48.000 A lot of gratitude.

00:03:49.000 A lot of gratitude.

00:03:50.000 I do think that when you're talking about voting for Joe Biden, let's just play this out.

00:03:55.000 Obviously, I've been saying for a long time, Joe Biden's not going to be the nominee.

00:03:57.000 The debate made that evident to a lot of people.

00:03:59.000 But even more important than the debate was actually what happened in the last few days since Saturday, right?

00:04:05.000 Because on one hand, Joe Biden now has come out with the national message that we need to tone down the rhetoric.

00:04:09.000 We need to make sure that we are not vilifying our political opponents.

00:04:15.000 And yet that is exactly his entire campaign message.

00:04:18.000 So either he's going to double down and do the exact opposite of what he said he needs to do, or else he doesn't have a campaign message left.

00:04:24.000 Which is actually one more, and I think even the more powerful reason, even more than the debate for why he just can't end up being the nominee.

00:04:31.000 The risk for us is, I don't think it's an accident they waited for this Republican convention to play out before making that decision.

00:04:31.000 What does that mean?

00:04:38.000 These people think like, they think like calculated Machiavellian planners.

00:04:42.000 You want full information.

00:04:43.000 Tell us who the VP is.

00:04:44.000 Tell us, get your convention energy out of the way.

00:04:47.000 And then they're going to put up who their nominee is next month.

00:04:49.000 So I think that a lot of us... The race is going to reset.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, I mean, people are celebrating and like the race is over.

00:04:55.000 I think the race has not even begun.

00:04:57.000 That's kind of my view.

00:04:58.000 So let's, I want to get into the element here.

00:05:00.000 You have been a crusader against DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion.

00:05:05.000 The current head of the Secret Service, who has experience protecting potato chips and Pepsi cans, she wanted to make the Secret Service 30% female. 1.00

00:05:14.000 Talk about the real-life implications, because Vivek, I mean, you are unafraid to ask the tough questions.

00:05:21.000 When you ran for president, you went there on great replacement.

00:05:24.000 You went there on the tough stuff.

00:05:26.000 Vivek, talk about DEI, and then help me understand.

00:05:29.000 Secret Service had eyes on this guy 30 minutes before.

00:05:31.000 They did nothing to rush Trump offstage.

00:05:33.000 Local police did nothing.

00:05:34.000 How did he get to the roof?

00:05:35.000 They were in the same building as this.

00:05:38.000 Was this malevolence or incompetence?

00:05:41.000 So, look, I think that the incompetence, sadly, across so much of the federal bureaucracy is unsurprising.

00:05:46.000 There's two different themes here.

00:05:47.000 I think one's more important than the other, but both we can discuss.

00:05:50.000 I wasn't aware of the DEI point that you mentioned.

00:05:52.000 That is correct.

00:05:52.000 Is that like a fact?

00:05:53.000 It was her goal.

00:05:54.000 Yes, the woman who is running the Secret Service, who literally, her experience... What is it, Andrew?

00:05:59.000 Yes, got it.

00:06:00.000 Of course.

00:06:00.000 So 5% of applicants into the Secret Service are female.

00:06:03.000 She wanted to make it 30%.

00:06:04.000 Very similar to pilots in United Airlines.

00:06:08.000 30 by 30.

00:06:09.000 So she wants 30% of the Secret Service to be female by 2030. 1.00

00:06:14.000 So this is the same... I want to get to the DEI point, but I want to get to the deeper point about bureaucracy.

00:06:18.000 On the DEI point, this is the same criteria used to select the Vice President of the United States.

00:06:22.000 So it's not just the person who's in charge of one of these agencies in the Secret Service.

00:06:26.000 The person who's the Vice President in charge of our border policies, the person who we've put in charge of AI policy, got her job for one reason.

00:06:33.000 It was for her race and gender.

00:06:35.000 Now people will say that media doesn't like that characterization.

00:06:38.000 Well, the reality is, just listen to what the Democrats were saying at the time.

00:06:41.000 If you go back to listen to Amy Klobuchar, look at other people who ran against her in the week running up to the VP selection.

00:06:46.000 They say it's time to put a black woman on that ticket, a woman of color on that ticket. 1.00

00:06:50.000 That's exactly what they were saying. 0.95

00:06:52.000 And so this is a pattern we've seen.

00:06:54.000 Merit and group quotas are incompatible.

00:06:57.000 Anytime you're setting a group quota that a certain percentage of people need to have some race or gender, that means you have sacrificed merit.

00:07:04.000 There is no middle ground because there's some other criteria that you're solving for.

00:07:09.000 Apart from the DEI piece of this though, there's a deeper issue in our country.

00:07:13.000 And it is the rot of bureaucracy.

00:07:15.000 The rot of the unelected fourth branch of government.

00:07:19.000 And I think the fork in the road for us, because I think this is more interesting terrain for us to broach, Charlie, is do we want to get in there and reshape that bureaucracy to achieve positive goals for Americans?

00:07:30.000 Or do we actually just want to get in there and dismantle it?

00:07:33.000 And I'm in the camp of we need to get in there and shut it down.

00:07:36.000 There's no good version of this bureaucracy.

00:07:39.000 Shutting it down is the answer.

00:07:40.000 And until we do that, we're not going to be able to save this country.

00:07:43.000 And our number one way to be able to do it is to put Donald Trump back in the White House because he's ready to act.

00:07:49.000 I know you were in contention to be the vice presidential selection.

00:07:52.000 J.D.

00:07:52.000 Vance is the selection.

00:07:55.000 Comment on that.

00:07:56.000 He has a heart for dismantling the administrative state, for restoring the form and the structure of our Constitution, and to put citizens back in charge of the government, not government in charge of citizens.

00:08:09.000 Well, to take a step back even from policy, J.D.' 's actually been a friend for a really long time.

00:08:14.000 Two Ohioans, by the way.

00:08:16.000 By the way, should Vivek be the next senator from Ohio?

00:08:18.000 I think that would be great.

00:08:21.000 He's resistant.

00:08:23.000 I didn't get that question at all yesterday.

00:08:26.000 The truth is, if I was Intended to run for Senate, I would have run for Senate before, but we live in such a moment right now that everybody's got to look themselves in the mirror and say, how am I going to serve this country in our final hour of saving it?

00:08:40.000 And so I'm going to have a good conversation with President Trump, and we're going to talk about what way I'm going to have the biggest impact I can on the country.

00:08:46.000 But on J.D., I want to say this is outside of politics.

00:08:48.000 He's actually a guy who grew up, my first house where I lived through kindergarten was probably 15 minutes from where he was.

00:08:53.000 We didn't know each other.

00:08:54.000 We were classmates in law school, and I didn't know he was a conservative.

00:08:58.000 He didn't know I was conservative.

00:08:59.000 So you guys went to Yale together?

00:09:00.000 Yeah, we watched Bengals games.

00:09:02.000 We were the only guys cheering for the Cincinnati Bengals back in 2010, 2011.

00:09:05.000 So you guys would hang out together?

00:09:08.000 Yeah, we were at a bar.

00:09:09.000 We would hang out, and we didn't talk politics, funny enough, back then.

00:09:12.000 And then we discovered in the years later that, hey, he and I were kind of among the lone wolves.

00:09:16.000 And so you also knew his wife, Usha, as well?

00:09:18.000 She was our classmate.

00:09:18.000 Very well.

00:09:19.000 My wife, Apoorva, lived in the same college that she did a few years ahead.

00:09:23.000 Our kids are about the same age, so it's not a personal... His son is named Vivek, by the way.

00:09:28.000 People think it's a joke, but... No, it's actually one of JD's sons is named Vivek.

00:09:31.000 But the truth is, just on a personal note, just as seeing a friend and a family friend, my first reaction was I was just so proud of him, and we did not imagine... I totally agree.

00:09:41.000 years ago we're sitting in a bar watching football, neither of us imagined this is where we would be

00:09:46.000 working together in a different way and hopefully saving the country. So on a personal note, that

00:09:51.000 was just very, in a like an emotional way, both for my wife, Corbin, I just satisfying to watch

00:09:56.000 the two of them now lead this country in the way that they're going to be in a position to

00:10:01.000 on policy. Look, one of the things I love about JD is there's probably a 10% of things that he and I

00:10:07.000 actually have slightly different views on. And we can talk about this. We agree on 90% of things,

00:10:11.000 10% of things we disagree on. Even yesterday, I think as recently as yesterday, we were riffing

00:10:16.000 on each of our speeches at NatCon and some differences of perspective that we have.

00:10:21.000 That's what we need.

00:10:22.000 He's energetic, he has a clear-eyed view of an ideology, and he's smart.

00:10:27.000 Is that too much to ask of a politician?

00:10:29.000 I don't think it is, but that's what we need more of in American politics.

00:10:31.000 I think he's going to be a great vice president.

00:10:33.000 I want to dive deeper into this.

00:10:35.000 I think it's so important.

00:10:36.000 There's this new ascendant kind of young gun wing of the Republican Party.

00:10:41.000 I'm looking at part of it right now.

00:10:43.000 I just do a talk show.

00:10:46.000 But I'm happy to just keep doing this.

00:10:48.000 You guys go do the politics stuff.

00:10:49.000 I'm going to keep doing this.

00:10:50.000 There's different lanes.

00:10:51.000 There's different lanes.

00:10:52.000 That's right.

00:10:52.000 So J.D.

00:10:55.000 There might be some difference between you and he on certain parts, but the diagnosis is identical.

00:11:01.000 Please go into that.

00:11:03.000 So the diagnosis is that we prioritized a neoliberal vision for this country above all costs, treating the United States as some kind of economic zone rather than as a nation.

00:11:14.000 And the thing we agree on, and I think this is the future of the conservative movement, is to recognize that the United States of America is a nation, and that positive nationalist vision is our future.

00:11:24.000 We grew dependent on an enemy, an adversary for our modern way of life, even for our own military and pharmaceutical supply chain.

00:11:30.000 dependent on China. That's wrong and nobody from Friedrich von Hayek to a libertarian to a positive

00:11:36.000 nationalist would say that was a good thing. Same thing with respect to immigration policies. You

00:11:40.000 have millions of people in this country, many of whom tens of millions are here illegally,

00:11:44.000 that have no allegiance to the United States of America.

00:11:46.000 That's a problem and not an economic argument. I think the future question for us as a movement,

00:11:51.000 and I think it's good for us to confront this in productive ways, is do we want to use the

00:11:58.000 regulatory apparatus in good ways for American workers and manufacturers?

00:12:03.000 I respect the view and I think there are compelling arguments for it.

00:12:08.000 Or do we actually want to get in there and dismantle it and shut it down?

00:12:12.000 Do we want to turn the left-wing nanny state into a right-wing Pro-worker state. 0.96

00:12:17.000 I think it's a reasonable debate to have.

00:12:19.000 Or do we want to shut down the nanny state and dismantle it altogether? 0.92

00:12:22.000 So I think that's where things go from here, but we need a smarter, a smarter breed of politician who's able to have that debate in a pro-American way, and to have the deeper commitment of rejecting the neoliberal dogmas of yesterday, which frankly in both parties poisoned this country for a long time.

00:12:38.000 This convention, more so than any, turns the page on that chapter of our history and moves forward to the real future of America first.

00:12:44.000 Two thoughts.

00:12:45.000 J.D.

00:12:45.000 being the vice president selection is basically the final nail in the coffin of the Bush-Cheney neoliberal regime.

00:12:52.000 They're done.

00:12:53.000 It's part of our history.

00:12:55.000 That is why people were eulogized.

00:12:57.000 They just couldn't believe it.

00:12:58.000 They have no influence.

00:12:59.000 They have no future.

00:13:00.000 They are done.

00:13:01.000 Go join the Democrats, and many of them have.

00:13:02.000 But the more important question, based on what you're saying, is then how do we restrict corporate power?

00:13:07.000 I think that's actually the great challenge.

00:13:09.000 The government power isn't, I think, important, but then how are we to restrict the growing Great question, right?

00:13:19.000 So, I think the growing influence of corporations is a problem because they co-opt the state.

00:13:24.000 And how do they co-opt the state to do it?

00:13:26.000 It is through the administrative state, the people who are never elected in the first place.

00:13:30.000 They do it some through Congress, too.

00:13:31.000 I don't think you should be allowed to be a lobbyist for at least 10 years after you've left Congress.

00:13:35.000 I think that's something that Democrats, Republicans, all got to get behind.

00:13:38.000 That's ending corruption in our government.

00:13:40.000 But the real way they do it is through the people who write these regulatory fiats.

00:13:45.000 I don't care if they're at the FTC, the Department of Transportation, CFPB, and I think we have to confront some hard but high quality debates and discussions on our side of the right.

00:13:56.000 I'm not just talking about the old Republican right, the America First movement, to ask ourselves Do we believe it is possible to reform that regulatory state?

00:14:05.000 And I'm just in the camp, Charlie, where I don't believe that that reform is possible. 0.74

00:14:09.000 I think we got to slash and burn it and burn the ashes.

00:14:12.000 And if we cut too much, fine, then maybe we add some of it back.

00:14:16.000 But I would rather do that first than trying to reshape the whole thing.

00:14:19.000 So that I think we roll this forward four years, five years, 10 years.

00:14:22.000 That's what we're going to be debating.

00:14:23.000 The president has power to do that without Congress.

00:14:23.000 30 seconds.

00:14:25.000 You came on my podcast and talked about that.

00:14:27.000 Yes.

00:14:27.000 And J.D.

00:14:28.000 Vance will be a very important number two to help make sure that happens.

00:14:32.000 Amen.

00:14:33.000 He's going to be an outstanding vice president and I think America First is at a dawn, right?

00:14:38.000 This is a movement that is still in the early stages of its dawn.

00:14:42.000 It's the crack of dawn we saw this week.

00:14:44.000 And I think by the time it's into Trump's second term, it's going to be high noon in this country.

00:14:48.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, God bless, man.

00:14:50.000 Thank you, man.

00:14:50.000 When are you speaking, by the way?

00:14:51.000 Tonight, actually.

00:14:52.000 8.30 p.m.

00:14:53.000 Eastern.

00:14:54.000 Speaking tonight.

00:14:54.000 We'll be watching, man.

00:14:55.000 We're doing things a little differently tonight.

00:14:57.000 Vivek, thanks so much.

00:14:58.000 Good seeing you, man.

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00:16:28.000 Joining us now is Cory Mills.

00:16:30.000 Congressman Mills, great to see my man.

00:16:32.000 Great to see you.

00:16:33.000 So, Congressman, From here to the Trade Hotel, I'm told, is approximately 120 yards.

00:16:38.000 Is that about right?

00:16:39.000 That's about right.

00:16:40.000 So you're a former Army sniper.

00:16:42.000 Am I categorizing that correctly?

00:16:44.000 I was a former 82nd and part of the Joint Special Operations Command.

00:16:47.000 I was a former counter-sniper and advance team leader of a Department of State team.

00:16:53.000 Okay, so a lot of experience.

00:16:54.000 How tough is that shot if you were to go right up there to here?

00:16:58.000 Look, I want to understand the fact that I can take anyone out of this audience right now who's never picked up a rifle, pull a rifle out of your standard Walmart that is not a manufactured rifle for a sniper capability, and within 10 minutes I can make that 9 out of 10 times for a person who's never picked up a rifle.

00:17:12.000 This is how simplistic that actual shot is and why I say about the divine intervention and the fact of how lucky a millisecond and a millimeter would have changed the outcome of this.

00:17:19.000 But this critical failure, this malice, negligence, this dereliction of duty, at a minimum, Chito needs to resign.

00:17:26.000 If not, I'm going to utilize the Homan Rule to take her salary down to $1 and ask her to leave. 1.00

00:17:31.000 I texted Speaker Johnson today and I said, I want to head a J13 commission.

00:17:36.000 I want a full investigation away from the FBI, who is the corrupt deep state, who has continued to try and violate our rights and liberties, who violated it 287,000 times, utilizing FISA as their excuse.

00:17:47.000 I want a proper investigation.

00:17:49.000 The J13, you want to talk about dangerous rhetoric? 1.00

00:17:52.000 They tried to go ahead and imprison and vilify President Trump over J6 when he said go home peacefully. 0.87

00:17:58.000 You have President Biden who said it's time to put a bullseye on Trump.

00:18:02.000 That's now not incitement of violence.

00:18:03.000 That doesn't deserve a J13 select commission to go after the exact same things.

00:18:08.000 Stop playing defense.

00:18:09.000 Start playing offense in the Republican movement.

00:18:11.000 We have to understand that we almost lost the President of the United States.

00:18:15.000 You don't come any closer to death.

00:18:17.000 But his reaction should basically empower every single American.

00:18:23.000 Look, he didn't rise in cowardice fear.

00:18:25.000 He rose in defiance.

00:18:27.000 And this is a man who doesn't need this job.

00:18:29.000 This is a man who says, I'm not, you know, they're not after me.

00:18:31.000 They're after you.

00:18:32.000 I'm just in the way.

00:18:32.000 He's willing to take a bullet because he believes in when he says fight, fight, fight.

00:18:36.000 That's fight for our liberties. 0.88

00:18:37.000 That's fight for our rights.

00:18:38.000 That's fight for our Constitution. 0.96

00:18:40.000 I gotta take a step back here.

00:18:41.000 So, you have been in executive protection counter-snipering.

00:18:44.000 So, this is a question I've not yet had anyone address.

00:18:47.000 From what I understand, again, this is layman of the layman's.

00:18:50.000 No experience whatsoever.

00:18:51.000 However, I'm a pretty good shot, but not great.

00:18:52.000 I actually believe you are.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, I'm a pretty good shot, but again, I'm a layman.

00:18:56.000 Bear hunter and, you know, deer hunter, but that's about it.

00:18:59.000 So, When is it ever appropriate to go back off of scope if you are a counter sniper?

00:19:07.000 Never.

00:19:08.000 Walk the audience through what I'm talking about.

00:19:10.000 So the only time that you would ever come off scope is when you get what they call eye fatigue.

00:19:15.000 You do get the point where you sit under magnification for so long that your eye will twitch.

00:19:18.000 But that is why you have a spotter.

00:19:20.000 How long?

00:19:20.000 30 minutes?

00:19:20.000 45 minutes?

00:19:21.000 It's different for each shooter, right?

00:19:22.000 And how long you've actually been out there, the conditions of the day, etc.

00:19:24.000 What kind of glance and glare you have.

00:19:26.000 But the point is that's why you have a spotter.

00:19:28.000 when you're not on scope, he is on scope.

00:19:30.000 The fact that you had two sniper systems there meant that there should always be someone there.

00:19:33.000 And when we talk about setting a perimeter, the advanced team's failure to acknowledge 160 yards away,

00:19:40.000 that's perfectly adjacent to a stage who has a clear line of sight, overwatch,

00:19:43.000 and an elevated position, that is a perfect shot for any individual.

00:19:47.000 I got to interrupt, though.

00:19:48.000 We're getting closer to uncharted, like very dangerous territory here, and scary.

00:19:55.000 Were there people that wanted Donald Trump dead that didn't do their job?

00:19:58.000 Can I just be completely honest about what I believe?

00:20:00.000 Because I just say it the way I say it.

00:20:02.000 There is such negligence here that I pray and I hope that that's exactly what it was, is a complete failure in the cooperation and coordination of local law enforcement and other agencies.

00:20:11.000 But the more that I look at this, as much as I don't want to be this conspiracist to say it's intent, I'm just going to go ahead and say this.

00:20:16.000 First, they wanted to silence and censor him.

00:20:18.000 Then they wanted to indict and prison him. 0.99

00:20:19.000 Now they've tried to kill him.

00:20:20.000 We need to start having a proper investigation, so at minimum...

00:20:24.000 We can share with the American people with confidence that this was just negligence and that we've made a correction.

00:20:28.000 I hope so. 1.00

00:20:28.000 I pray it was a bunch of dumb people. 1.00

00:20:30.000 But, Corey, breaking news today. 1.00

00:20:31.000 But look, D-E-I means D-I-E.

00:20:34.000 I agree.

00:20:34.000 And by the way, we've been warning against that.

00:20:36.000 But breaking news today, the Secret Service had eyes on this guy 30 minutes ahead of time.

00:20:39.000 They knew he was there.

00:20:41.000 They saw him with a rifle.

00:20:42.000 How do I explain that?

00:20:43.000 I mean, do the Secret Service want Trump to get shot?

00:20:47.000 Look, at the end of the day, I don't think that his personal protective detail wants it.

00:20:50.000 They were great people.

00:20:51.000 I talked to Eric Trump.

00:20:52.000 But let me just say this, Eric.

00:20:53.000 Let me say this real quick, Charlie.

00:20:55.000 The bottom line is that 26 minutes on a rooftop, a law enforcement officer who actually encountered him on the roof that he pointed a rifle at, why would that not have an emergency comms freak For everyone that's involved to be able to say, shoot her on the roof, shoot her on the roof, shoot her on the roof, immediately grab the president, get him down and get him out of there.

00:21:12.000 This right here is the biggest failure and massive security breach that America has seen in four decades.

00:21:18.000 We cannot tolerate this.

00:21:19.000 This is beyond unacceptable.

00:21:21.000 It's a humiliation.

00:21:22.000 But 26 minutes, again, I want it to be just a bunch of incompetence, but It's just, you have to wonder, was there a subtle, like, ah, just don't do your job?

00:21:32.000 You know what?

00:21:33.000 I just don't understand, again, the failures on the advance team.

00:21:35.000 Look, when you do stage set and settlement, when you do the tight shots, that's one part of it.

00:21:39.000 But when you look at the perimeters, they keep saying, oh, it's outside the perimeter.

00:21:42.000 The advance team and the sniper teams established a perimeter.

00:21:45.000 160 yards is such a close shot.

00:21:47.000 That's not inside your perimeter.

00:21:48.000 But also, there's a water tower only a couple hundred yards away that they don't want to talk about.

00:21:51.000 The CNN tried to block me from talking about today.

00:21:53.000 That was also an opportunity that was not blocked.

00:21:55.000 Address the camera.

00:21:58.000 I like allowing the audience to be a part of that, but the bottom line is that, you know, look, We had multiple areas that could have been positioned in an overwatch oversight position that would have prevented this and let's just say for a moment let's go on the negligence part let's say it was a resource issue all right at a minimum you could have put a police car that's locked with its lights on sitting in the parking lot that could have been a deterrence

00:22:20.000 They didn't even do that.

00:22:21.000 You could have coordinated with AGR, the actual employer, and said, is it possible for you to go ahead and minimize the actual employees in and out of the traffic today?

00:22:28.000 Could we put someone on the roof?

00:22:29.000 Can we find a permissible climbing area and put an officer on the ground to prevent it?

00:22:34.000 This is what was failures.

00:22:35.000 How did he get on the roof?

00:22:37.000 That's still to be determined in the investigation.

00:22:39.000 Do you think we're going to find an answer to that?

00:22:41.000 I will get an answer to that.

00:22:42.000 But how high was that roof?

00:22:44.000 I couldn't tell you how high it is.

00:22:45.000 I would imagine that's probably a 12 to 16 foot if it's an actual commercial building.

00:22:49.000 Did he take a ladder out of his car?

00:22:51.000 Or there's one that was outside that was already there.

00:22:53.000 What do you mean out?

00:22:53.000 What does that mean?

00:22:54.000 Like someone staged a ladder for him?

00:22:56.000 No, no.

00:22:56.000 Well, I mean, I never say anything.

00:22:58.000 It's never.

00:22:58.000 But what I would say is that, you know, when people do maintenance, when they're changing out lights, things like that, sometimes the maintenance people will actually prop up a ladder somewhere else outside of the area if they don't want to put it away or they're being lazy.

00:23:07.000 I'm trying to find an excuse to not call this anything other than negligence, but my experience, my background, what I've done in my life leads me to believe that this is more than just negligence.

00:23:22.000 That's your gut?

00:23:24.000 My gut tells me that we need to do a full investigation outside of the actual government themselves who are actually trying to be responsible, like the FBI or the agencies.

00:23:31.000 We need to remove the heads. 0.76

00:23:33.000 We need to remove those who are actually in charge of this.

00:23:35.000 And we need to get a real investigation for the American people for transparency.

00:23:39.000 Nothing hidden.

00:23:40.000 There is a third option, which is a blend of both, which is you put bad people in place to make mistakes so you don't have somebody to blame.

00:23:49.000 Plausible deniability.

00:23:50.000 Right. 0.72

00:23:50.000 So you have a bunch of incompetent DEI hires. 0.72

00:23:54.000 And you know they're not going to do their job because they're a bunch of morons, right? 1.00

00:23:58.000 That's why you just talked about the 30 for 30, right? 1.00

00:24:00.000 Exactly.

00:24:00.000 So the Secret Service woman, her background is defending Pepsi-Cola and potato chips.

00:24:07.000 You just have a bunch of incompetent people.

00:24:09.000 We all know that the president's a Coca-Cola drinker, so that's a problem. 0.91

00:24:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:12.000 And there's no way that you could ever, you know, get to the bottom of it or prove it because you have a bunch of misfits defending the president.

00:24:18.000 Look, do I think that We're going to get clear evidence and transparency from the Secret Service.

00:24:23.000 They're destroying evidence right now.

00:24:25.000 But at the end of the day, what I think needs to happen is every photo, every video, every eyewitness, everyone, because there was two people who apparently took photos and turned it over to local law enforcement.

00:24:33.000 All of these individuals should be brought before us to testify so the American people can see.

00:24:38.000 Because here's what we want.

00:24:39.000 We want to kill any idea that this is a conspiracy of intent.

00:24:43.000 And we need to have accountability.

00:24:45.000 We need to have transparency for the American people that are watching here and watching, you know, in person.

00:24:50.000 I'm right there with you.

00:24:50.000 I want this to come out and be like this was a bunch of people that 30 minutes beforehand they saw the shooter and they said, oh shooter.

00:24:57.000 I don't know what that means.

00:24:58.000 I hope that's what we find out.

00:25:00.000 Well, when you're looking through a 4.5x14x50 scope, and you can see the buttons on his shirt at 160 yards, it's hard for me to say that he wasn't anything other than ill-intended.

00:25:09.000 Yeah, so by the way, the counter-sniper team, once they see him, why don't they say, get the president off stage?

00:25:14.000 Again, we need to see if there was recordings or tapes of communications.

00:25:18.000 How many layers are we just going to keep on saying incompetence, right?

00:25:21.000 Oh, no drone.

00:25:22.000 Incompetence.

00:25:22.000 Didn't clear the roof.

00:25:23.000 Incompetence.

00:25:24.000 Didn't protect the building.

00:25:25.000 Incompetence.

00:25:26.000 No... Outside the perimeter.

00:25:27.000 The counter sniper goes off scope.

00:25:29.000 Incompetence.

00:25:30.000 Uh, they don't, they don't pull them off scope.

00:25:31.000 Well, I heard the recent one.

00:25:32.000 They were on a sloped roof.

00:25:33.000 Let me be clear with you.

00:25:34.000 I've shot on uneven platforms and grounds many times.

00:25:37.000 In the battlefield, believe it or not, they don't give you a flat, steady trajectory.

00:25:39.000 Oh, you mean they don't, they don't give you a stage like this?

00:25:41.000 Yeah, they don't clean it off and they don't lay a rug down for you.

00:25:43.000 I mean, I know that everyone thinks snipers are prima donnas.

00:25:45.000 But no, the reality is this.

00:25:46.000 That's why you have bipods that you can actually make equal.

00:25:49.000 To try and guarantee yourself, like a Harris S-Series, you know, S-Bipod.

00:25:53.000 So the point is, is that there isn't room for excuses when a president was nearly assassinated.

00:25:58.000 There needs to be answers, not excuses.

00:26:01.000 I hope so.

00:26:01.000 Do we have assurances that they're not going to try to kill him again?

00:26:04.000 There's never an assurance of anything.

00:26:05.000 There's never an assurance that any elected official isn't going to be targeted.

00:26:08.000 But we have to get back to the humanistic qualities of understanding.

00:26:11.000 You can disagree politically and ideology.

00:26:13.000 I love verbal pugilism, but that doesn't result in violence where you're actually taking someone's life.

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00:27:35.000 She's coming on Monday or something in front of Congress.

00:27:38.000 I'm gonna ask to be waived on if that's not a committee of jurisdiction.

00:27:41.000 I sit on the armed services.

00:27:43.000 I've done this before because I was in Afghanistan that helped to rescue Americans as well as for Israel and Haiti.

00:27:48.000 And so James Comer has actually waved me on to Oversight before to be able to testify as an experienced witness.

00:27:53.000 Which committee is this?

00:27:54.000 They're coming from Oversight?

00:27:55.000 I would imagine this is going to be from Oversight or Judiciary or one of those.

00:27:57.000 So Jim Jordan will be chairing it?

00:27:59.000 Jim Jordan or James Comer, one of those.

00:28:00.000 And it will be televised?

00:28:02.000 All of it should be on C-SPAN as it should.

00:28:03.000 I don't think any of this should be put behind closed doors.

00:28:07.000 The American people deserve the facts.

00:28:09.000 They pay for our time as taxpayers.

00:28:11.000 They should be able to see all the evidence themselves.

00:28:14.000 And the...

00:28:16.000 But by the grace of God, Donald Trump still lives.

00:28:19.000 It is by the grace of God, and I'll tell you, this is why I believe in the idea of divine intervention.

00:28:23.000 This is why I look at Ephesians 6 when you don the armor of God, and he was shot at 611.

00:28:28.000 When you think about things, I want everyone to understand, we are a nation that was founded upon our Christian and Judaic beliefs for our constitutional rights to protect inalienable rights, not government and provided privileges.

00:28:40.000 We will continue to maintain that.

00:28:42.000 I believe that we're constantly being looked over, but I don't think people will ever understand that that's as close to death as you'll ever come when you talk about millimeters and milliseconds of change that resulted in not an attempt, but an assassination.

00:28:53.000 And your reaction to how the media was covering this?

00:28:56.000 CNN said that he fell hard.

00:28:58.000 Well, that's like saying that, you know, Hiroshima was a loud firework. 0.81

00:29:03.000 I mean, look, it's absolutely insulting to when they make these types of rhetorics as opposed to

00:29:08.000 calling it what it is. However, if that would have been a reversed analogy and that would

00:29:11.000 have been a Democrat, you know, candidate, they would have immediately said the right wing

00:29:15.000 MAGA crowd has tried to rhetoric this to a point where it's putting us at risk. This is where we

00:29:20.000 must take back the narrative. We've always controlled the facts, but we've allowed them to take

00:29:24.000 the narrative because we've been defensive, not offensive. We've been continuing to try and

00:29:28.000 act as if we are the majority, but we're not the majority until you actually act upon it.

00:29:32.000 Saying it is not the same thing.

00:29:33.000 Responsibility is not the same as accountability.

00:29:36.000 Me going, hey, mea culpa, I apologize, is not the same as me being held before the rug and removed from my position and being looked at potential crimes.

00:29:42.000 We have to start doing our jobs.

00:29:44.000 That's what the American people elect us to do.

00:29:45.000 Not to be a politician who gets on the stage and talks about things and then goes back and goes, well, I would have, should have, could have.

00:29:50.000 I've rescued 500 people.

00:29:52.000 I will always go into the actual wrong areas and we will fight, fight, fight, as President Trump said.

00:29:57.000 I speak for the audience.

00:29:58.000 You need to unleash hell on the Secret Service. 0.96

00:30:02.000 I'm going to unleash hell on all those responsible. 0.98

00:30:05.000 And do not let this go. 0.97

00:30:06.000 Get to the bottom of this.

00:30:08.000 We were, as I'll say it again, an inch and a half away from this country maybe not existing in its current form.

00:30:13.000 Amen.

00:30:13.000 God bless you, man.

00:30:14.000 God bless you.

00:30:14.000 We have your back.

00:30:15.000 Thank you.

00:30:15.000 All right.

00:30:16.000 Give it up for Congressman Mills.

00:30:17.000 Great work.

00:30:18.000 We have Senator Ron Johnson joining us in a second here from his home state of Wisconsin.

00:30:23.000 Reminder, become a member.

00:30:24.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

00:30:26.000 That's Members.CharlieKirk.com.

00:30:28.000 Senator, great to see you.

00:30:30.000 Thank you.

00:30:31.000 Welcome.

00:30:31.000 Nice to see you.

00:30:32.000 Thank you.

00:30:33.000 And love being in the state of Wisconsin.

00:30:35.000 So Senator, I'm saying this to every one of our guests, I'm still numb after the events on Saturday.

00:30:41.000 Where were you and what is your reaction?

00:30:43.000 I was sitting by the beautiful shores of Lake Winnebago and getting a text, the President's been shot.

00:30:49.000 Fortunately we have the internet, you go right on there, you start seeing the video and It was horrific when you see the video and then all of a sudden, what, a minute, minute and a half, he's popping up and you breathe a sigh of relief.

00:31:01.000 Still not 100% sure.

00:31:02.000 I mean, is it, you know, how serious is the wound?

00:31:05.000 Unbelievable, you know, his reaction.

00:31:07.000 But I'll tell you, Charlie, once I saw him, I assumed he was okay.

00:31:11.000 One of the first thoughts that went through my mind is, he didn't have to do this.

00:31:15.000 I know.

00:31:16.000 He didn't have to in 2016, but he loves this country.

00:31:19.000 That's why he loves this country. 0.99

00:31:21.000 He realizes how stupid so many things are, and he has proven that he can do something better. 0.99

00:31:27.000 But particularly running again in 2024, he knew the vilification. 0.99

00:31:31.000 I don't think he possibly could have ever contemplated the extent that Joe Biden weaponized the government against him.

00:31:37.000 He knew he was risking his life.

00:31:39.000 And so now he narrowly escaped death.

00:31:42.000 had the tragedy of a heroic American losing his life protecting his family.

00:31:47.000 So long drawn out point that I'm making is there's no way that incident didn't change

00:31:55.000 him.

00:31:56.000 That's a life changing event.

00:31:58.000 And I personally, because I've been saying for the last two years, as much as our debt

00:32:01.000 and deficit is a threat to this nation, right now our greatest threat is the fact that we

00:32:06.000 are horribly divided.

00:32:07.000 There's no reason for it.

00:32:08.000 I mean, we all share the same goals.

00:32:10.000 We love this country as Americans.

00:32:12.000 We want safety.

00:32:13.000 We want security.

00:32:14.000 We want enough opportunity.

00:32:16.000 So why don't we try unifying and healing this nation?

00:32:19.000 We've got enormous challenges.

00:32:21.000 That's what President Trump, I think, is going to do.

00:32:22.000 He's going to use this moment.

00:32:24.000 What does that look like when Joe Biden is playing it both ways?

00:32:27.000 Joe Biden right now says that he wants to calm down the temperature.

00:32:31.000 He's still sending out advertisements saying we're MAGA extremists.

00:32:34.000 They call us akin to fascism.

00:32:35.000 you know, grappling with and solving these enormous challenges.

00:32:38.000 What does that look like when Joe Biden is playing it both ways? Joe Biden right now says

00:32:43.000 that he wants to calm down the temperature. He's still sending out advertisements saying

00:32:47.000 we're MAGA extremists. They call us akin to fascism. There's news publications that say

00:32:51.000 we're, you know, the Third Reich. It seems a little insincere coming from the Democrats.

00:32:57.000 Well, it's beyond disappointing.

00:32:58.000 Let's face it, eight times during his inaugural address, and I was on the podium, and he's saying his number one goal is to unify and heal this nation.

00:33:06.000 Okay, Mr. President, you're sincere about that?

00:33:09.000 You've got an ally.

00:33:10.000 He's done the exact opposite.

00:33:11.000 I know that.

00:33:12.000 And who knows if this is rhetoric that just got, you know, staffers putting that out.

00:33:17.000 I would like to think he's sincere.

00:33:19.000 I know President Trump is sincere, but we have to do that.

00:33:22.000 I mean, it was Lincoln that said, a house divided against itself cannot stand.

00:33:26.000 That's true.

00:33:27.000 And it truly is a threat to this nation.

00:33:31.000 We've got to heal and unify.

00:33:33.000 Somebody's got to be the adult in the room.

00:33:35.000 I guess it's going to have to be us.

00:33:37.000 Senate oversight standpoint, has there been any indication by the current Senate Majority Leader, hopefully not for much longer, Chuck Schumer, that the Senate will conduct any oversight into what happened on July 13th?

00:33:49.000 So no, I used to chair the Senate Homeland Security Government Affairs Committee.

00:33:52.000 We have jurisdiction over the Secret Service, partial jurisdiction.

00:33:55.000 Gary Peters, Democrat.

00:33:57.000 From Michigan.

00:33:58.000 From Michigan.

00:33:59.000 He has announced with Senator Rand Paul that we actually will do an investigation, we'll conduct oversight.

00:34:04.000 Now, we'll see how serious he is in terms of what his demands are.

00:34:08.000 I've already issued a letter, a record preservation letter, with a host of questions that need to be answered.

00:34:16.000 We'll see if he follows suit by subpoenaing those records or issuing a similar type of record preservation letter.

00:34:23.000 I'm cynical on this until we get President Trump elected again, God willing, is that no one was fired after Afghanistan. 0.81

00:34:29.000 No one was fired for handling of COVID.

00:34:31.000 No one was fired from the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:34:33.000 You were awesome on all three issues.

00:34:35.000 The Secret Service doesn't seem humiliated by this.

00:34:39.000 She's treating this like it's a PR problem and an HR problem instead of a national security threat and a humiliation to our country. 0.99

00:34:48.000 We'll see what the investigation reveals, but this is an obvious failure on the part of Secret Service.

00:34:54.000 We're hearing, and it's reasonable to assume this because President Biden appointed all these people, not to run their agencies for the mission that they've established for, but for DEI, for equity.

00:35:08.000 So it sounds like that's exactly what this Director of the Secret Service was all about.

00:35:14.000 So more focused on DEI than actually accomplishing the mission.

00:35:17.000 There's all kinds of rumors swirling in terms of requests made for beefed up security, you know,

00:35:22.000 detailing the secret service agents Diverted for Dr. Jill Biden as opposed to President Trump.

00:35:29.000 I don't know, we'll find out what the truth is But we got those rumors swirling

00:35:33.000 We need to get to the bottom of that.

00:35:34.000 So the agency is going to have to do the investigation.

00:35:37.000 Congress doesn't have that kind of detailed investigatory capability, but they must be 100% transparent.

00:35:43.000 They have to preserve all records.

00:35:45.000 That means of their investigation, as well as all the communication for the last couple of years about this.

00:35:49.000 We have to delve into this deeply.

00:35:51.000 I hope it was incompetence.

00:35:52.000 I really do.

00:35:53.000 I hope that these people just didn't know what they were doing, and I really hope that that's what the result is.

00:35:57.000 Yeah, but let's face it.

00:35:59.000 RFK Jr., if there's ever been an assassination potential, he was begging for Secret Service protection.

00:36:09.000 He had incidents of security breaches that potentially threatened his life, and Biden refused To provide him Secret Service protection, although it's been granted to other people in the past.

00:36:20.000 Trump forced his hand.

00:36:21.000 I appreciate President Trump called for it, and now I think this is actually being granted.

00:36:25.000 And so, this is a time for unity and for coming together.

00:36:30.000 We are here in your home state of Wisconsin.

00:36:33.000 You know this state better than anybody else.

00:36:35.000 It is the most difficult state to poll in the country.

00:36:38.000 Would you agree with that?

00:36:40.000 Absolutely.

00:36:40.000 Why is that?

00:36:43.000 Maybe Wisconsinites don't trust pollers.

00:36:45.000 So many counties, maybe?

00:36:47.000 But first, pay no attention to the polls.

00:36:49.000 I mean, I've been in close races.

00:36:50.000 One of them I was down 16 points.

00:36:52.000 The last run I was supposedly up 7 points.

00:36:54.000 I've never believed the polls.

00:36:56.000 It's going to be a tight race.

00:36:58.000 Walker, unfortunately, lost by about 30,000.

00:36:59.000 Biden won by about 20,000.

00:37:01.000 I won last time.

00:37:05.000 26,000.

00:37:05.000 So again, it's going to be a tight race.

00:37:07.000 We've got to work our tail off and we've got to do everything we can to make sure the other side doesn't cheat.

00:37:13.000 What do you feel on the ground here?

00:37:15.000 A lot of enthusiasm.

00:37:16.000 Our Republican Party is unified.

00:37:20.000 The fact that Democrat policies are destroying this nation, that's unifying.

00:37:25.000 The debate further unified us.

00:37:28.000 What happened on Saturday, that sealed the deal.

00:37:30.000 We are 100% unified.

00:37:31.000 So now, We can take that unity and try and expand it to the American population.

00:37:39.000 So across the state of Wisconsin, you've run so many successful races by going to every county, knowing every mayor running through this.

00:37:46.000 What is the advice of what President Trump needs to do to deliver this state?

00:37:51.000 Especially now, do you think J.D.

00:37:52.000 Vance adds a little bit of a wrinkle to potentially help this?

00:37:55.000 Yeah, J.D.' 's going to play great in Wisconsin.

00:37:56.000 Genuine, hard-working guy, down-to-earth, intelligent.

00:38:02.000 You need a strong ground game.

00:38:05.000 Democrats have an advantage in all these states.

00:38:06.000 All they have to do is really go into their pockets, whether it's Milwaukee or Madison.

00:38:11.000 Remember, Toomey always used to talk about Pennsylvania.

00:38:14.000 You've got Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between.

00:38:17.000 We're somewhat similar.

00:38:18.000 So Democrats can mine most of their votes in a couple cities.

00:38:21.000 We've got to go to every burg.

00:38:22.000 So you have to have the ground game.

00:38:24.000 But I'd love to see President Trump come down here, hold a rally in Milwaukee, like he did in the Bronx, and appeal to every Wisconsinite.

00:38:32.000 I'd love it.

00:38:33.000 In a diverse way, because he is, and he was, and he will be the president for every American, lifting every American up, providing opportunity for every American.

00:38:41.000 Senator Johnson, thank you.

00:38:44.000 The road to the White House goes through Wisconsin in many different ways.

00:38:50.000 It's incredibly important that we not just win this state, but work our tail off.

00:38:54.000 I know Turning Point recognizes that.

00:38:56.000 You've got a good ground in operation.

00:38:57.000 We're investing heavily here.

00:38:58.000 I see you guys all over the state, so thank you for your efforts as well.

00:39:01.000 We're going to have a couple hundred people full-time on the ground here, just chasing ballots.

00:39:04.000 We're following your lead.

00:39:08.000 You've won the state in the most adverse circumstances.

00:39:10.000 Let me think about it.

00:39:11.000 It was 2010, 2016, 2022, right?

00:39:13.000 Right.

00:39:14.000 And Russ Feingold twice, and then Mandela Barnes the last time?

00:39:17.000 Is that right?

00:39:18.000 Right.

00:39:18.000 Am I right with the names?

00:39:19.000 Yeah, that should not have been as close as it was.

00:39:21.000 The one in 2022?

00:39:22.000 Yeah.

00:39:23.000 Oh, I know.

00:39:23.000 He was a communist.

00:39:24.000 But that just shows you how tough it is.

00:39:26.000 They poured a lot of money into this state.

00:39:28.000 But Senator, thank you so much.

00:39:29.000 God bless you.

00:39:30.000 Keep up the good work.

00:39:30.000 Thank you.

00:39:31.000 Thank you.

00:39:35.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:41:30.000 Congressman Tom Tiffany is with us.

00:41:31.000 Congressman, welcome.

00:41:33.000 Charlie, it's great to be here.

00:41:34.000 Thank you.

00:41:34.000 Yes, so you are from far north Wisconsin.

00:41:38.000 And from what I remember looking at the map is it's all red, but there is some blue.

00:41:41.000 Is that Native American reservation up there?

00:41:43.000 Like a little bit?

00:41:45.000 No, we got Minneapolis liberals that came up and moved to far northern Wisconsin.

00:41:49.000 Yes.

00:41:50.000 Yeah.

00:41:50.000 So it's mostly red up there?

00:41:52.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:53.000 We've made it all red.

00:41:54.000 So when I went into the state Senate back in 2012, it had been 30 years since we had had a Republican.

00:41:59.000 Since then, we've turned everything red.

00:42:01.000 And so, your district is what?

00:42:04.000 R plus 10?

00:42:04.000 R plus 15?

00:42:05.000 Yeah.

00:42:06.000 And you have Green Bay?

00:42:08.000 Is that right?

00:42:09.000 No, I'm a little bit north of Green Bay.

00:42:10.000 North of Green Bay!

00:42:11.000 And that district is a classic Trump district in that Democrat had it for 40 years before Sean Duffy in 2010.

00:42:18.000 We have now turned it completely red.

00:42:20.000 The Green Bay district?

00:42:22.000 The Green Bay one?

00:42:22.000 The far north one where I'm at.

00:42:24.000 The 7th Congressional.

00:42:28.000 Obama won it easily, I remember, by almost 13 points, right?

00:42:31.000 That is correct.

00:42:32.000 And Donald Trump just has completely changed that.

00:42:34.000 Completely turned it.

00:42:35.000 So what are you hearing on the ground versus other elections?

00:42:38.000 Is Trump's more energy for Trump than 2020?

00:42:42.000 Yeah, I think the energy is really good for President Trump up by us.

00:42:45.000 I mean, people understand.

00:42:47.000 Here's what voters are saying to me, Charlie.

00:42:49.000 They're saying, what about me?

00:42:51.000 What about me?

00:42:52.000 What are you guys going to do for me?

00:42:54.000 Because the last three and a half years, nothing good's been happening for me.

00:42:57.000 I mean, we just had a double murder in my county, or one of my counties.

00:43:05.000 An illegal immigrant here that ICE has not removed and the local police chief, he said that ICE will not come there anymore after 2020.

00:43:16.000 That's as a result of the Biden policies.

00:43:18.000 When was this?

00:43:20.000 Just happened in the last week.

00:43:21.000 So an American was murdered, double murder? 0.52

00:43:24.000 Two children murdered by an illegal immigrant. 1.00

00:43:28.000 On top of that, I mean, this stuff is happening all over the country, including in rural northern Wisconsin.

00:43:34.000 What was the illegal doing up in northern Wisconsin?

00:43:37.000 That is a good question.

00:43:38.000 Should be removed.

00:43:39.000 That was the point of the police chief's message.

00:43:42.000 He said, ICE will not come and remove people anymore.

00:43:45.000 This is the problem with the Biden border crisis.

00:43:48.000 We have to secure the border.

00:43:50.000 It is the number one thing I believe President Trump needs to do.

00:43:53.000 And then he needs to remove people that came here, in particular, that came during the Biden years.

00:43:58.000 So, your district voted for Trump by 20 in 2020.

00:44:02.000 Is it possible for Trump to win by 25 or even 30?

00:44:04.000 I believe it's possible to win by higher margins.

00:44:08.000 I've been pushing my numbers up, steadily higher, election after election.

00:44:11.000 Our goal is to add another couple percentage points on.

00:44:14.000 That could win the whole state.

00:44:15.000 That could win the state.

00:44:16.000 That's why we're focused.

00:44:18.000 I'm going to work on my election, Charlie, but the most important thing we can do is win Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes.

00:44:23.000 That's what we're focused on.

00:44:25.000 So, Wisconsin is an interesting state because about half of the state votes by mail, half votes in person.

00:44:30.000 Is that about right?

00:44:31.000 Yeah, it was during COVID.

00:44:34.000 Has mail gone down?

00:44:35.000 It dropped a little bit now in 2022.

00:44:37.000 Yep.

00:44:38.000 And so, but it's not mass mail-in voting where I would say that in Wisconsin versus other states, it's harder to cheat in Wisconsin than Michigan.

00:44:47.000 But a recent decision by the Wisconsin Supreme Court now allows drop boxes.

00:44:51.000 Walk us through what that means.

00:44:53.000 So by allowing the drop boxes, and the important thing is they're unattended, Charlie.

00:44:58.000 So in other words, you can have people dropping off ballots whenever they want to.

00:45:02.000 And what we're concerned about is the ballot harvesters are out there.

00:45:06.000 The Democrats have maxed areas like Dane County, which is Madison.

00:45:10.000 They've really maxed their turnout.

00:45:11.000 90-95% of the people are voting.

00:45:14.000 And that's because they're out harvesting.

00:45:16.000 And they use the drop boxes as the place that they can drop them.

00:45:21.000 And so what can we do to prevent widespread fraud?

00:45:24.000 Here's one of the things I think can be done.

00:45:25.000 Sheriffs around the country, you have the authority to investigate crime.

00:45:30.000 Voting illegally is a crime.

00:45:33.000 Why have sheriffs been so afraid to look into this?

00:45:35.000 I don't know, but I'm hearing that some sheriffs around the country are now going to take action.

00:45:39.000 Are they in your district?

00:45:40.000 We're hoping that they're going to, in Wisconsin, not just my district, but in Wisconsin, are going to say, we will not accept illegal activities in our county, including voting illegally.

00:45:50.000 Yeah, the sheriff issue is really important.

00:45:52.000 It is.

00:45:53.000 In closing here, what are you going to be demanding from the Secret Service after Trump got shot this last weekend?

00:45:59.000 Um, we want reform.

00:46:00.000 We want reform.

00:46:01.000 This, by the way, and this is just the tip of the iceberg out in the swamp in Washington, D.C.

00:46:07.000 Well, this is what everybody is focused on.

00:46:09.000 This is why we need reform in Washington, D.C.

00:46:11.000 It's why we need Donald Trump in for his second term.

00:46:15.000 We need fundamental reform of the swamp out in Washington, D.C., including the intelligence agencies.

00:46:21.000 The other part in Wisconsin is that there was really shady behavior coming out of nursing homes. 0.67

00:46:26.000 You remember that?

00:46:27.000 Yes.

00:46:27.000 Has there been any reforms to try to fix that from happening?

00:46:30.000 The legislature tried to pass bill after bill.

00:46:32.000 The governor vetoed them.

00:46:33.000 So they're just going to cheat again.

00:46:35.000 So we sure, that's where the sheriffs could come in.

00:46:37.000 Not Milwaukee.

00:46:39.000 Yeah.

00:46:40.000 So I guess they'll just cheat again.

00:46:41.000 All right, Congressman, thanks so much.

00:46:42.000 Hope we win Wisconsin.

00:46:43.000 We're gonna.

00:46:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:46:45.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:46:47.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 16, 2024

The Trump Assassination Attempt: Incompetence, or Malevolence? ft. Vivek Ramaswamy, Rep. Cory Mills, Sen. Ron Johnson and Rep. Tom Tiffany

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