Vivek Ramaswamy, Ron Johnson and Corey Mills join me live from the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to talk about the Trump shooting and what we can do to fix the Secret Service. We also talk about why we should all vote for Joe Biden in the upcoming primary election and why it s a good idea to vote for a woman in the Democratic primary. We also discuss the possibility that a woman should have voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and why she should vote for him now. Thank you for listening to the Charlie Kirk Show, join us on our FB Page, and don t forget to Like, Share, and Subscribe to our new YouTube channel, "The Charlie Kirker Show" where we discuss all things political and current events. The show is sponsored by Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investing. That's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegold.investments.com/thecharliekirk and start your account today! Go to the Noble Gold Investor account and get 20% off your first month when you sign up for a Noble Gold Investment account! That's $20 or $50 or $100 or $150 when you become a Member! You get 10% off the first month of the show! It's a Gold Investor! Subscribe to the show and receive 20% OFF! Learn more about the show at noblegoldinvestments and get access to all the best deals on the showroom deals and more! at charliekirk.co.co/theCharlieKirkShow. The Charlie Kirk is the official gold sponsor of The CharlieKirk Show! Click here to get your own Never Surrender shirt and receive 5% off The Charlie Kirk Show shirt and all kinds of goodies! The show that goes live in the show coming soon! Thanks Charlie's shirt and more!! FREE Mentioned in this ad-free promo code: "Member's Day" at The Charlie's T-shirt and more than $5, $10,000 in the next week! FREE PROMOTIONAL PROMOTE MEETING CHECK OUT THE CHALLENGE HERE! CHILLYKIRK IS AVAILABLE IN OUR FACEBOOK GROUP AND PATREON BOWYER AND MORE! CHECK THEM OUT!
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00:02:05.000First, your reaction, and then I really want to dive into the complexities of how this happened.
00:02:10.000Yeah, my first reaction was shock, anger.
00:02:16.000I talked to President Trump that night, 12.30 a.m.
00:02:19.000The guy was up on his way back, and the thing that was shocking to me was the same level of strength and calm you saw on that stage, that we all saw on that stage.
00:02:29.000He's going home, responding to text messages, picking up phone calls, and the last thing he says is, you take care of yourself.
00:02:36.000Water rolls off a duck is the expression.
00:02:38.000It's like a bullet rolls off of Donald Trump, and it just gives me... I don't care about what your political beliefs are.
00:02:44.000I can't tell you how many friends I had, Charlie, too, and family members who say, you know what?
00:02:48.000They might have been ready to vote for him before, but if I see a guy who's that tough in leading this country, yeah, that's the kind of guy I want to get behind.
00:02:56.000And so, for me, it was initially a state of shock and anger, and then the second phase was how do we channel that anger to actually Recreate the country that we care about.
00:03:06.000And I think we have an opening to do it if that's one silver lining to come out of it.
00:03:09.000I mean, you see a guy who gets shot and he then fights his own agents and says, fight, fight, fight.
00:03:37.000But here's the other thing, because this is important and relevant, especially this week, where I think one of the things I see, the mood is positive, the atmosphere is positive, the polling looked great.
00:03:47.000There's a lot of gratitude around here right now.
00:03:50.000I do think that when you're talking about voting for Joe Biden, let's just play this out.
00:03:55.000Obviously, I've been saying for a long time, Joe Biden's not going to be the nominee.
00:03:57.000The debate made that evident to a lot of people.
00:03:59.000But even more important than the debate was actually what happened in the last few days since Saturday, right?
00:04:05.000Because on one hand, Joe Biden now has come out with the national message that we need to tone down the rhetoric.
00:04:09.000We need to make sure that we are not vilifying our political opponents.
00:04:15.000And yet that is exactly his entire campaign message.
00:04:18.000So either he's going to double down and do the exact opposite of what he said he needs to do, or else he doesn't have a campaign message left.
00:04:24.000Which is actually one more, and I think even the more powerful reason, even more than the debate for why he just can't end up being the nominee.
00:04:31.000The risk for us is, I don't think it's an accident they waited for this Republican convention to play out before making that decision.
00:04:58.000So let's, I want to get into the element here.
00:05:00.000You have been a crusader against DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion.
00:05:05.000The current head of the Secret Service, who has experience protecting potato chips and Pepsi cans, she wanted to make the Secret Service 30% female.
00:05:14.000Talk about the real-life implications, because Vivek, I mean, you are unafraid to ask the tough questions.
00:05:21.000When you ran for president, you went there on great replacement.
00:06:09.000So she wants 30% of the Secret Service to be female by 2030.
00:06:14.000So this is the same... I want to get to the DEI point, but I want to get to the deeper point about bureaucracy.
00:06:18.000On the DEI point, this is the same criteria used to select the Vice President of the United States.
00:06:22.000So it's not just the person who's in charge of one of these agencies in the Secret Service.
00:06:26.000The person who's the Vice President in charge of our border policies, the person who we've put in charge of AI policy, got her job for one reason.
00:06:54.000Merit and group quotas are incompatible.
00:06:57.000Anytime you're setting a group quota that a certain percentage of people need to have some race or gender, that means you have sacrificed merit.
00:07:04.000There is no middle ground because there's some other criteria that you're solving for.
00:07:09.000Apart from the DEI piece of this though, there's a deeper issue in our country.
00:07:15.000The rot of the unelected fourth branch of government.
00:07:19.000And I think the fork in the road for us, because I think this is more interesting terrain for us to broach, Charlie, is do we want to get in there and reshape that bureaucracy to achieve positive goals for Americans?
00:07:30.000Or do we actually just want to get in there and dismantle it?
00:07:33.000And I'm in the camp of we need to get in there and shut it down.
00:07:36.000There's no good version of this bureaucracy.
00:07:56.000He has a heart for dismantling the administrative state, for restoring the form and the structure of our Constitution, and to put citizens back in charge of the government, not government in charge of citizens.
00:08:09.000Well, to take a step back even from policy, J.D.' 's actually been a friend for a really long time.
00:08:23.000I didn't get that question at all yesterday.
00:08:26.000The truth is, if I was Intended to run for Senate, I would have run for Senate before, but we live in such a moment right now that everybody's got to look themselves in the mirror and say, how am I going to serve this country in our final hour of saving it?
00:08:40.000And so I'm going to have a good conversation with President Trump, and we're going to talk about what way I'm going to have the biggest impact I can on the country.
00:08:46.000But on J.D., I want to say this is outside of politics.
00:08:48.000He's actually a guy who grew up, my first house where I lived through kindergarten was probably 15 minutes from where he was.
00:09:19.000My wife, Apoorva, lived in the same college that she did a few years ahead.
00:09:23.000Our kids are about the same age, so it's not a personal... His son is named Vivek, by the way.
00:09:28.000People think it's a joke, but... No, it's actually one of JD's sons is named Vivek.
00:09:31.000But the truth is, just on a personal note, just as seeing a friend and a family friend, my first reaction was I was just so proud of him, and we did not imagine... I totally agree.
00:09:41.000years ago we're sitting in a bar watching football, neither of us imagined this is where we would be
00:09:46.000working together in a different way and hopefully saving the country. So on a personal note, that
00:09:51.000was just very, in a like an emotional way, both for my wife, Corbin, I just satisfying to watch
00:09:56.000the two of them now lead this country in the way that they're going to be in a position to
00:10:01.000on policy. Look, one of the things I love about JD is there's probably a 10% of things that he and I
00:10:07.000actually have slightly different views on. And we can talk about this. We agree on 90% of things,
00:10:11.00010% of things we disagree on. Even yesterday, I think as recently as yesterday, we were riffing
00:10:16.000on each of our speeches at NatCon and some differences of perspective that we have.
00:11:03.000So the diagnosis is that we prioritized a neoliberal vision for this country above all costs, treating the United States as some kind of economic zone rather than as a nation.
00:11:14.000And the thing we agree on, and I think this is the future of the conservative movement, is to recognize that the United States of America is a nation, and that positive nationalist vision is our future.
00:11:24.000We grew dependent on an enemy, an adversary for our modern way of life, even for our own military and pharmaceutical supply chain.
00:11:30.000dependent on China. That's wrong and nobody from Friedrich von Hayek to a libertarian to a positive
00:11:36.000nationalist would say that was a good thing. Same thing with respect to immigration policies. You
00:11:40.000have millions of people in this country, many of whom tens of millions are here illegally,
00:11:44.000that have no allegiance to the United States of America.
00:11:46.000That's a problem and not an economic argument. I think the future question for us as a movement,
00:11:51.000and I think it's good for us to confront this in productive ways, is do we want to use the
00:11:58.000regulatory apparatus in good ways for American workers and manufacturers?
00:12:03.000I respect the view and I think there are compelling arguments for it.
00:12:08.000Or do we actually want to get in there and dismantle it and shut it down?
00:12:12.000Do we want to turn the left-wing nanny state into a right-wing Pro-worker state.
00:12:17.000I think it's a reasonable debate to have.
00:12:19.000Or do we want to shut down the nanny state and dismantle it altogether?
00:12:22.000So I think that's where things go from here, but we need a smarter, a smarter breed of politician who's able to have that debate in a pro-American way, and to have the deeper commitment of rejecting the neoliberal dogmas of yesterday, which frankly in both parties poisoned this country for a long time.
00:12:38.000This convention, more so than any, turns the page on that chapter of our history and moves forward to the real future of America first.
00:13:01.000Go join the Democrats, and many of them have.
00:13:02.000But the more important question, based on what you're saying, is then how do we restrict corporate power?
00:13:07.000I think that's actually the great challenge.
00:13:09.000The government power isn't, I think, important, but then how are we to restrict the growing Great question, right?
00:13:19.000So, I think the growing influence of corporations is a problem because they co-opt the state.
00:13:24.000And how do they co-opt the state to do it?
00:13:26.000It is through the administrative state, the people who are never elected in the first place.
00:13:30.000They do it some through Congress, too.
00:13:31.000I don't think you should be allowed to be a lobbyist for at least 10 years after you've left Congress.
00:13:35.000I think that's something that Democrats, Republicans, all got to get behind.
00:13:38.000That's ending corruption in our government.
00:13:40.000But the real way they do it is through the people who write these regulatory fiats.
00:13:45.000I don't care if they're at the FTC, the Department of Transportation, CFPB, and I think we have to confront some hard but high quality debates and discussions on our side of the right.
00:13:56.000I'm not just talking about the old Republican right, the America First movement, to ask ourselves Do we believe it is possible to reform that regulatory state?
00:14:05.000And I'm just in the camp, Charlie, where I don't believe that that reform is possible.
00:14:09.000I think we got to slash and burn it and burn the ashes.
00:14:12.000And if we cut too much, fine, then maybe we add some of it back.
00:14:16.000But I would rather do that first than trying to reshape the whole thing.
00:14:19.000So that I think we roll this forward four years, five years, 10 years.
00:14:22.000That's what we're going to be debating.
00:14:23.000The president has power to do that without Congress.
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00:16:54.000How tough is that shot if you were to go right up there to here?
00:16:58.000Look, I want to understand the fact that I can take anyone out of this audience right now who's never picked up a rifle, pull a rifle out of your standard Walmart that is not a manufactured rifle for a sniper capability, and within 10 minutes I can make that 9 out of 10 times for a person who's never picked up a rifle.
00:17:12.000This is how simplistic that actual shot is and why I say about the divine intervention and the fact of how lucky a millisecond and a millimeter would have changed the outcome of this.
00:17:19.000But this critical failure, this malice, negligence, this dereliction of duty, at a minimum, Chito needs to resign.
00:17:26.000If not, I'm going to utilize the Homan Rule to take her salary down to $1 and ask her to leave.
00:17:31.000I texted Speaker Johnson today and I said, I want to head a J13 commission.
00:17:36.000I want a full investigation away from the FBI, who is the corrupt deep state, who has continued to try and violate our rights and liberties, who violated it 287,000 times, utilizing FISA as their excuse.
00:19:48.000We're getting closer to uncharted, like very dangerous territory here, and scary.
00:19:55.000Were there people that wanted Donald Trump dead that didn't do their job?
00:19:58.000Can I just be completely honest about what I believe?
00:20:00.000Because I just say it the way I say it.
00:20:02.000There is such negligence here that I pray and I hope that that's exactly what it was, is a complete failure in the cooperation and coordination of local law enforcement and other agencies.
00:20:11.000But the more that I look at this, as much as I don't want to be this conspiracist to say it's intent, I'm just going to go ahead and say this.
00:20:16.000First, they wanted to silence and censor him.
00:20:18.000Then they wanted to indict and prison him.
00:20:55.000The bottom line is that 26 minutes on a rooftop, a law enforcement officer who actually encountered him on the roof that he pointed a rifle at, why would that not have an emergency comms freak For everyone that's involved to be able to say, shoot her on the roof, shoot her on the roof, shoot her on the roof, immediately grab the president, get him down and get him out of there.
00:21:12.000This right here is the biggest failure and massive security breach that America has seen in four decades.
00:21:22.000But 26 minutes, again, I want it to be just a bunch of incompetence, but It's just, you have to wonder, was there a subtle, like, ah, just don't do your job?
00:21:58.000I like allowing the audience to be a part of that, but the bottom line is that, you know, look, We had multiple areas that could have been positioned in an overwatch oversight position that would have prevented this and let's just say for a moment let's go on the negligence part let's say it was a resource issue all right at a minimum you could have put a police car that's locked with its lights on sitting in the parking lot that could have been a deterrence
00:22:21.000You could have coordinated with AGR, the actual employer, and said, is it possible for you to go ahead and minimize the actual employees in and out of the traffic today?
00:22:58.000But what I would say is that, you know, when people do maintenance, when they're changing out lights, things like that, sometimes the maintenance people will actually prop up a ladder somewhere else outside of the area if they don't want to put it away or they're being lazy.
00:23:07.000I'm trying to find an excuse to not call this anything other than negligence, but my experience, my background, what I've done in my life leads me to believe that this is more than just negligence.
00:23:24.000My gut tells me that we need to do a full investigation outside of the actual government themselves who are actually trying to be responsible, like the FBI or the agencies.
00:23:40.000There is a third option, which is a blend of both, which is you put bad people in place to make mistakes so you don't have somebody to blame.
00:24:12.000And there's no way that you could ever, you know, get to the bottom of it or prove it because you have a bunch of misfits defending the president.
00:24:18.000Look, do I think that We're going to get clear evidence and transparency from the Secret Service.
00:24:23.000They're destroying evidence right now.
00:24:25.000But at the end of the day, what I think needs to happen is every photo, every video, every eyewitness, everyone, because there was two people who apparently took photos and turned it over to local law enforcement.
00:24:33.000All of these individuals should be brought before us to testify so the American people can see.
00:25:00.000Well, when you're looking through a 4.5x14x50 scope, and you can see the buttons on his shirt at 160 yards, it's hard for me to say that he wasn't anything other than ill-intended.
00:25:09.000Yeah, so by the way, the counter-sniper team, once they see him, why don't they say, get the president off stage?
00:25:14.000Again, we need to see if there was recordings or tapes of communications.
00:25:18.000How many layers are we just going to keep on saying incompetence, right?
00:28:16.000But by the grace of God, Donald Trump still lives.
00:28:19.000It is by the grace of God, and I'll tell you, this is why I believe in the idea of divine intervention.
00:28:23.000This is why I look at Ephesians 6 when you don the armor of God, and he was shot at 611.
00:28:28.000When you think about things, I want everyone to understand, we are a nation that was founded upon our Christian and Judaic beliefs for our constitutional rights to protect inalienable rights, not government and provided privileges.
00:28:42.000I believe that we're constantly being looked over, but I don't think people will ever understand that that's as close to death as you'll ever come when you talk about millimeters and milliseconds of change that resulted in not an attempt, but an assassination.
00:28:53.000And your reaction to how the media was covering this?
00:29:33.000Responsibility is not the same as accountability.
00:29:36.000Me going, hey, mea culpa, I apologize, is not the same as me being held before the rug and removed from my position and being looked at potential crimes.
00:29:44.000That's what the American people elect us to do.
00:29:45.000Not to be a politician who gets on the stage and talks about things and then goes back and goes, well, I would have, should have, could have.
00:30:33.000And love being in the state of Wisconsin.
00:30:35.000So Senator, I'm saying this to every one of our guests, I'm still numb after the events on Saturday.
00:30:41.000Where were you and what is your reaction?
00:30:43.000I was sitting by the beautiful shores of Lake Winnebago and getting a text, the President's been shot.
00:30:49.000Fortunately we have the internet, you go right on there, you start seeing the video and It was horrific when you see the video and then all of a sudden, what, a minute, minute and a half, he's popping up and you breathe a sigh of relief.
00:32:58.000Let's face it, eight times during his inaugural address, and I was on the podium, and he's saying his number one goal is to unify and heal this nation.
00:33:06.000Okay, Mr. President, you're sincere about that?
00:33:37.000Senate oversight standpoint, has there been any indication by the current Senate Majority Leader, hopefully not for much longer, Chuck Schumer, that the Senate will conduct any oversight into what happened on July 13th?
00:33:49.000So no, I used to chair the Senate Homeland Security Government Affairs Committee.
00:33:52.000We have jurisdiction over the Secret Service, partial jurisdiction.
00:34:35.000The Secret Service doesn't seem humiliated by this.
00:34:39.000She's treating this like it's a PR problem and an HR problem instead of a national security threat and a humiliation to our country.
00:34:48.000We'll see what the investigation reveals, but this is an obvious failure on the part of Secret Service.
00:34:54.000We're hearing, and it's reasonable to assume this because President Biden appointed all these people, not to run their agencies for the mission that they've established for, but for DEI, for equity.
00:35:08.000So it sounds like that's exactly what this Director of the Secret Service was all about.
00:35:14.000So more focused on DEI than actually accomplishing the mission.
00:35:17.000There's all kinds of rumors swirling in terms of requests made for beefed up security, you know,
00:35:22.000detailing the secret service agents Diverted for Dr. Jill Biden as opposed to President Trump.
00:35:29.000I don't know, we'll find out what the truth is But we got those rumors swirling
00:35:59.000RFK Jr., if there's ever been an assassination potential, he was begging for Secret Service protection.
00:36:09.000He had incidents of security breaches that potentially threatened his life, and Biden refused To provide him Secret Service protection, although it's been granted to other people in the past.
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00:44:38.000And so, but it's not mass mail-in voting where I would say that in Wisconsin versus other states, it's harder to cheat in Wisconsin than Michigan.
00:44:47.000But a recent decision by the Wisconsin Supreme Court now allows drop boxes.
00:45:40.000We're hoping that they're going to, in Wisconsin, not just my district, but in Wisconsin, are going to say, we will not accept illegal activities in our county, including voting illegally.
00:45:50.000Yeah, the sheriff issue is really important.