00:00:00.000Today, Charlie Kirk Show, Tony Busby, lead attorney for Ken Paxton, joins us as we recollect on a grassroots victory.
00:00:06.000And then Brent Bozell from the Media Research Center, Why the Media is Not Trusted, and then a very fun, very, very fun story about Rush Lumbaugh at the end of our program.
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00:01:37.000You know, the House Board of Managers, the House of Representatives brought charges back in May that they voted on.
00:01:45.000It took them about four hours, and it was based on hearsay upon hearsay.
00:01:50.000In fact, none of the witnesses that this was all based upon ever were put under oath.
00:01:55.000So this, for about three months with a gag order in place, Attorney General Paxton and his wife, Senator Paxton, were accused of all kinds of things that we could not even rebut in the press.
00:02:08.000And of course, the liberal press was in the hip pocket of the House managers.
00:02:14.000And so finally, two weeks ago, we were able to do an opening statement and tell our side of the story.
00:02:20.000And even though Attorney General Paxton had been essentially convicted in the press, once they called their first witness under oath, and that witness was cross-examined, it all fell apart.
00:02:33.000It crumbled like a cookie, and Ken Paxton was acquitted.
00:02:36.000So walk us through some of the players here, Dade Phelan, the Bush insiders.
00:02:41.000For our national audience that aren't as familiar with Insider Ball Texas politics, walk us through some of the players and why Ken Paxton, in your estimation, did they target?
00:02:51.000Well, you know, the Bush family has controlled Texas politics for a long time.
00:02:56.000Ken Paxton has been an anti-establishment guy.
00:02:59.000He has been fighting very hard against not only Obama administration, but also, of course, the Biden administration.
00:03:06.000And they thought they finally had him.
00:03:08.000And the interesting thing, and I thought what was most telling was the so-called whistleblowers.
00:03:13.000And remember, to be a whistleblower, you have to have a good faith belief that a crime had occurred.
00:03:19.000Well, these so-called whistleblowers admitted under oath that they had no evidence of any crime.
00:03:24.000And on the day that they went to the FBI, George P. Bush reactivated his law license.
00:03:32.000And one thing people should know is that Ken Paxton ran against George P. Bush in the Republican primary and beat him 68 to 32.
00:03:41.000And we thought that ended the George Bush or the Bush hierarchy in the state of Texas.
00:03:47.000Well, they came back again in a different way.
00:03:50.000And this time, it was this impeachment.
00:03:52.000And so on the very day that these so-called whistleblowers went to the FBI without any evidence, without any evidence of any crime, but made all these allegations that led to this impeachment, George P. Bush reactivated his law license, hoping that he would be the next attorney general.
00:04:11.000All of these so-called whistleblowers who are nothing more than disgruntled ex-staffers who made complaints against their boss with no evidence to the FBI, they were all represented by an individual named Johnny Sutton.
00:04:24.000Johnny Sutton, of course, was the appointed U.S. attorney by George Bush and was working for three years after we cross-examined these whistleblowers working for free.
00:04:37.000So the whole thing stumped to high heaven.
00:04:40.000The whole thing was an orchestration of a house that was in line with the Bush family.
00:04:46.000Of course, the Democrats jumped in as well.
00:04:49.000And it was all exposed on national TV when the first witness was actually put under oath and actually cross-examined.
00:04:57.000Yeah, and you did a fabulous job of that.
00:04:59.000I want to build this out even further, though.
00:05:02.000We have cut 19 here, but I think I'm not sure how long it is.
00:06:12.000The people in the House that are aligned with the Bush family were against Ken Paxton.
00:06:16.000They did not like the fact that Ken Paxton dispatched George P. Bush by an overwhelming majority.
00:06:24.000So this was their effort, and it may have succeeded.
00:06:27.000They had 100 lawyers on the other side.
00:06:30.000They were backed by millions of dollars, lobbyist dollars, pushing to beat Ken Paxton, who's anti-establishment and anti-the old guard.
00:06:39.000And I am so proud to have been a part of it.
00:06:41.000I am so proud when they called that first witness and he was put under oath, and you could tell with his shaking voice that he didn't have a whole lot there.
00:06:49.000And when he started answering cross-examined questions, he crumbled like a cookie on the stand.
00:07:24.000They talked about the legitimacy of this process, that this was going to be a just process, that the impeachment was correct, that it was supported by more evidence.
00:07:34.000And then when it fell apart, now they're trying to delegitize or make the process illegitimate.
00:07:41.000And that was a just and that was a fair trial.
00:07:44.000I can tell you the first vote, we tried to get the entire thing dismissed, and we only were able to get six votes.
00:07:51.000But once the evidence came in and once the lack of evidence on the prosecution side became clear, it fell apart.
00:07:58.000And now what we hear from the very same people who brought this case against Ken Paxton is, well, the whole process was fixed from the beginning.
00:08:25.000You can tell in that video, I was angry that Ken Paxton, our attorney general, was put through this and that his wife, Senator Angela Paxton, was put through this.
00:08:34.000And the good news is, the good news is justice prevailed.
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00:10:40.000So Tony, what is the lesson here then for grassroots conservatives?
00:10:43.000When the regime comes after you, hold the line.
00:10:46.000It would have been very easy for Ken just to bow out, wouldn't it?
00:10:49.000Yeah, and that's what that's one of the things I said in the closing is what they hoped he would do, what they expected he would do, was quit.
00:10:56.000But he has a stronger backbone than that.
00:10:59.000And I can tell you the grassroots, their calls, their letters, their emails, their texts, they made a difference.
00:11:18.000Look at the burdens of proof, senators.
00:11:21.000If you decided this case from the Houston Chronicle, the Texas Tribune, Texas Monthly, the Dallas Morning News, oh, my goodness gracious, Ken Paxton's guilty.
00:11:34.000But there ain't no evidence to support it.
00:11:38.000The only evidence we have in this case is they don't like Ken Paxton.
00:11:42.000So how is it then, just help me understand, that a Republican House in the state of Texas with such weak evidence decided to proceed?
00:11:51.000This is a mockery to the whole country.
00:11:53.000This is a humiliation for the state of Texas.
00:11:59.000We knew from the beginning that they had never placed a witness under oath.
00:12:04.000We knew from the beginning that they had some investigators who went out and spoke to only 15 witnesses and collected no documents.
00:12:11.000And then those. investigators went to the House committee and testified, but were not placed under oath.
00:12:18.000And we knew there was nothing to support this.
00:12:20.000And then you may recall that the hearing where they recommended impeachment lasted only four hours.
00:12:28.000And I think the reason that they sped that up and the reason that they went forward with this is because the speaker of the house was embarrassed by Ken Paxton because the speaker of the house appeared to be drunk running the state's business and Ken Paxton called him out in a public statement.
00:12:44.000And so they sped this up and they, as I've called it, they took a long walk on a short pier.
00:12:50.000They had already went too far and it was too late to turn back.
00:12:54.000And that's the case with the House that brought these charges and also with these so-called whistleblowers.
00:12:59.000And so what they put us in a position of doing is not only defending ourselves and the press with a gag order in place, but also cross-examining witnesses who had a lot of allegations and supposition and guesswork, but no evidence.
00:13:15.000And the good news is it turned out the way it should have turned out.
00:13:20.000But the point is, it should have never happened.
00:13:23.000And I think Lieutenant Governor's comments after the trial, where he blasted the House and said this should never happen and we're going to amend the Texas Constitution, I think that speaks volumes.
00:13:34.000So there are some whispers that are being leaked to the Associated Press that the Department of Justice is now going to take over and continue their assault against Ken Paxton.
00:13:45.000Is there anything you can share with that?
00:13:46.000It looks like it's an unrelenting blitzkrieg against Ken Paxton.
00:13:51.000I hope that's not true because anybody that watched the trial and saw the witnesses that the federal government, the DOJ would have to rely upon would see that they have no evidence and that they do not stand up to cross-examination.
00:14:04.000I think what you're hearing is just a bunch of sour grapes from the press corps that thought that they had gotten Ken Paxton.
00:14:11.000And not only did they not get Ken Paxton, he's stronger than ever and is ready to do his work.
00:14:16.000Tony Busby, and you're running for city council.
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00:15:59.000So the MRC was founded, good Lord, 35 and a half years ago because I believed that the media, then the liberal media, were the most powerful arm of the left in America today, the most consequential anyway.
00:16:17.000But that's when the media were liberal.
00:16:19.000What we've seen happen in the last five years is a transformation.
00:16:23.000This is a media that's gone hard far left.
00:16:26.000And I spent 30 years debating the media that denied they have a bias.
00:16:34.000Note that nobody suggests they don't have a bias anymore.
00:16:38.000It's indefensible to suggest that they don't have a bias.
00:16:41.000And you guys do a wonderful job of exposing it.
00:16:44.000And from a factual perspective, it's really remarkable.
00:16:47.000I want to talk about this: Meet the Press.
00:16:50.000There's a new host of Meet the Press, Kristen Welker.
00:16:53.000And this is part of something that we call the Trump paradox, which is that there's a portion of the media that says do not platform Trump at all, but another portion that says, wait, we need ratings.
00:20:50.000We're leaving the news era and we're going into the information age.
00:20:53.000You no longer, nine out of 10 people no longer wait for the newspaper in the morning to be delivered to see the news or wait till 6.30 in the evening.
00:21:03.000They pick up this thing and they look for the information.
00:24:41.000Because we covered these things and we showed it was a matter of seconds that they gave and rejected it.
00:24:49.000We know that Twitter censored it because when Elon Musk took over, he found that out.
00:24:55.000And then Mark Zuckerberg admitted that the Justice Department went to him and called it Russian collusion and told them not to cover it.
00:25:03.000Now, Charlie, people should go to prison for this.
00:25:06.000When the Justice Department is that weaponized that they are going to Facebook and telling them not to cover a story that they know is going to hurt Joe Biden, people should have gone to prison for that.
00:25:19.000But here's the terrible thing, Charlie, and conservatives better recognize something.
00:25:24.000It's happening all over again, right before our very eyes.
00:25:29.000You and I know lots of things going on in this administration, and your viewers know everything we know that's going on about all the bribery and all that kind of stuff.
00:25:39.000I can guarantee you that probably a majority of Democrats have no idea what we're talking about.
00:29:47.000At the end of the day, you saw left and you saw right.
00:29:52.000You saw the right that could laugh and have fun and the left with no sense of humor whatsoever.
00:29:58.000It was an out-of-the-park home run for Rush Limbaugh.
00:30:01.000And that in some, I don't want to say I put him on the map, but they tried to ruin his career with that interview, and it had the opposite effect.
00:30:06.000And they tried, you know, they never understood this.
00:30:08.000There was a reporter, Bill Raspberry, a columnist for the Washington Post, very, very left-wing, who did, I think, one of the greatest services he did for his newspaper.
00:30:17.000He wrote a piece just slamming Rush, just really, really bad.
00:30:22.000And then about a month later, he wrote a second piece.
00:30:25.000And in the second piece, he acknowledged he'd never listened to Rush before.
00:30:30.000He was just going by what everybody was telling him.
00:30:33.000And he then, after he wrote it, decided to listen to Rush.
00:30:37.000And he said, and I'm paraphrasing, Rush, I don't agree with anything you say, but I apologize for everything I said because it wasn't true.
00:30:46.000So good for him, for that man, for having done that.
00:30:49.000Most people who attack who savage Rush never listen to his show once, but they couldn't stand the fact that he could laugh at them and enjoy it so much.
00:30:59.000And the typical rules of the media did not apply to Rush.
00:31:44.000That's for that is a one of one of the one of the, and you know what?
00:31:47.000And to be with him privately, people don't believe this.
00:31:50.000He was the most humble person you ever met.
00:31:54.000And there wasn't a bit of falsehood in that.
00:31:56.000When he came back, when he had his drug issue and he came back from his drug issue, his first public event was with me at one of our galas.
00:32:04.000And he got a massive standing ovation.
00:32:07.000When he came off the stage, he looked at me almost teary-eyed and he said, Brent, they gave me a standing ovation.
00:32:14.000You couldn't believe he would get that.