00:00:35.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:43.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:26.000The way we reacted to it changed our entire society, which was one of the worst mistakes I think we've ever made as a country and as a civilization.
00:01:35.000But I do want to address one of these flyers that they have, Kirk off campus, which is just hilarious.
00:01:41.000I've actually never heard that one before.
00:01:43.000But there's one part of it that I do want to focus on, where it says, Florida State University continues to platform far-right influencers like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro.
00:02:06.000Okay, but I want to talk about the misinformation thing because that's such an interesting thing.
00:02:10.000Because you're starting to hear that more and more in our society right now, which is that people on the right are somehow purveyors of misinformation.
00:02:18.000And, you know, everything we do is rooted in facts and what's, you know, can be proven.
00:02:22.000And it's not misinformation that they're worried about or facts.
00:02:26.000It's facts that they want to make sure that students don't hear or opinions that are actually not going to be able to be presented.
00:02:32.000But while we're on the topic of misinformation, shouldn't we talk about actually who's been spreading the most misinformation over the last couple of years?
00:02:39.000And I was thinking about some of the biggest stories kind of that have dominated the American news cycle.
00:02:44.000You remember for quite some time during the 2020 presidential election, there was, and again, here's just a good rule for life, like exhibit A of why not to do crack cocaine.
00:03:05.000So Hunter drops off his laptop repair, his laptop at a laptop repair shop, forgets to go pick it up, and then somehow it expires over a certain window and the property becomes the computer repair shop, his laptop, and then he then gives it to Rudy Giuliani.
00:03:22.000And all of a sudden, there's this laptop out there.
00:03:24.000And almost instantaneously, the media picked up a story that was complete and total disinformation and misinformation, which was that 50 intel experts came out and they said, this story is Russian disinformation.
00:03:36.000Remember this right in the midst of an election.
00:03:46.000You're not allowed to all of a sudden come out using the media, social media, and intel agencies and say this is Russian disinformation because it's a story that you're afraid might actually impact the election results.
00:03:56.000And so who got held accountable for spreading that misinformation or disinformation?
00:04:07.000He's one of the last, I think, legitimate free speech liberals.
00:04:10.000I don't even know if he's a liberal, libertarian, what do you want to call him?
00:04:12.000He's entertaining and smart and fun and actually hears other ideas, which is refreshing, where Mark Zuckerberg went on Rogan's show and basically said, yeah, the FBI made a special visit to Facebook headquarters and told us that we have to clamp down on this story.
00:04:28.000And so if you tried to share the Hunter Biden laptop story in the midst of the election season, which by the way, contained, let's just say, some rather juicy and salacious details about not just Hunter's personal conduct, but the soon-to-be potential president of the United States doing business deals with our adversaries.
00:04:44.000And if you even talked about it on Twitter, you had your Twitter account suspended for spreading disinformation and misinformation.
00:04:50.000So you got to wonder, like, who's actually the ones that are spreading the misinformation in our country?
00:04:54.000Remember this story where they said that the virus came from a bat in the Himalayan mountains?
00:05:01.000They said, oh, yeah, it's just kind of came from a random wet market, is what they said.
00:05:06.000Well, now we know that it was from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:05:09.000In fact, early in the pandemic and our reaction to the pandemic, if you dared even say that it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, then you could have lost your social media account and then you could be labeled as a disinformation artist.
00:05:22.000I see a pattern, and we're going to keep on going through this list, that sometimes when they go the hardest after disinformation, it actually tends to be one of the most truthful things that actually ends up needing to be discussed and to be spread and heard about.
00:05:36.000Another one that I think is really interesting and important was during the summer of 2020, during Floyd of Palooza, when we decided to destroy our entire country around a lie that America is systemically racist, which of course we're not.
00:05:46.000We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:06:03.000And you extrapolate that through public opinion polls and what people actually thought, and it was this amazing kind of contradiction where the media was telling us everything was peaceful, everything was fine, or they said, oh, yeah, protesting needs to be disagreeable.
00:06:18.000When it actually became very clear that entire cities were burning down.
00:06:21.000And I can go through story after story from how they mislabeled Kyle Rittenhouse, the Nicholas Sandman, to how they told us that the vaccines were going to prevent transmission and that it was 100% safe and effective.
00:06:30.000And you got to wonder, like, okay, so you guys are ones that are spreading misinformation.
00:06:35.000And here's the best way you respond to misinformation is just, we're not going to shut you up and you don't shut us up.
00:06:40.000And then we're able to disagree and we're able to have dialogue because you guys are going to spread all this nonsense.
00:06:47.000What's happening is they label anyone on the American right that might have a difference of opinion.
00:06:52.000All of a sudden they say, we are now going to be able to use force and power to be able to stop your ability to speak.
00:06:57.000And so speech, and we take it for granted and it's quickly disappearing in our country because there's two forms of censorship.
00:07:03.000And we'll talk about both of them tonight.
00:07:05.000One that happens internally and one happens internally, one happens externally, is the speech is the best way to be able to find out what is true and how you react to certain crises or things happening in your country or civilization.
00:07:18.000If you are not able to consume information that is accurate, or not even to say information that's accurate as you see things happening in real time, you're living in some form of a tyranny, period.
00:07:27.000And it's really interesting because the big censorship in this country is not just coming from the government.
00:07:33.000That's obviously happening with the kind of intimidation of people on the right from raiding Mar-a-Lago to raiding pro-life leaders across the country, the unprecedented weaponization of our government.
00:07:43.000But it's also happening where people say, Charlie, if I spoke out the way you do, I would lose my job.
00:08:32.000But all we need is an opportunity to speak.
00:08:34.000They know that if there's actually a marketplace of ideas and you're allowed to have ideas spread and people be persuaded, then that's a massive threat to the current status quo that they're trying to usher in.
00:08:45.000And you go through topic after topic after topic after topic.
00:08:48.000And so I always find it truckling when people, you know, kind of zero in on that misinformation thing.
00:08:53.000And that's not to say that people get things wrong.
00:08:55.000I do my best to try to correct things.
00:08:57.000You might get facts and figures that are off and you should do your best to kind of, oh, so that wasn't right.
00:09:01.000Or that should be, you know, focused on more.
00:09:03.000But no, you have entire narratives where there is a posture and an intent around things that are completely and totally fabricated.
00:09:11.000So a public opinion poll, they asked just, you know, a thousand adults in America, how many blacks do you think are killed by whites every single year?
00:09:19.000Or how many unarmed blacks do you think are killed by whites every single year?
00:09:22.000And the responses were like 1,000, 1,500, you know, 70.
00:09:27.000Like that's about the average of what people thought.
00:09:29.000When in reality, the amount of unarmed blacks killed by police officers or killed by white people, it's something like 40 people a year.
00:09:36.000Or if you just count police, it's about 18 people a year.
00:09:38.000How is it that you have people that believe it's 1,200 or 1,500 when in reality, it's in the teens or the early 20s?
00:09:45.000It's because, well, the media is very, very good at making you believe that there's a problem that actually doesn't exist, much larger than it really is.
00:09:51.000It's this massive propaganda campaign that happens.
00:09:54.000Another great example is this, is that, and this is the media fear-mongering propaganda campaign, is that during the height of COVID, asked American adults by political affiliation, what's the chances you think you're going to be hospitalized if you get the Fauci virus or the Chinese coronavirus?
00:10:12.000And registered Democrats or registered people on the left would say that there is a 50% chance that I will be hospitalized if I get COVID.
00:10:21.000In reality, it's 1% to 5%, depending on age.
00:10:24.000How is it that people would believe so firmly a 50% chance that you'd be hospitalized?
00:10:29.000It's because the misinformation artists, the center of the misinformation hub themselves is they're designed to keep you fearful and ignorant and not understanding what's actually happening in the country.
00:10:39.000And I'm sure there's some people on the left here tonight.
00:11:28.000She said, there is no space for a classical liberal on the American left to be able to say that what we're doing in Ukraine is not exactly smart.
00:11:36.000We need to ask more analytical and, you know, let's say deeper questions.
00:11:40.000And I think that it's really dumb to tell kids that men can become pregnant.
00:11:47.000And basically, and we learned this from the Russian Revolution and from kind of Bolshevikism, is that as soon as you use the power of censorship, it knows no limitations whatsoever.
00:11:57.000Like, yeah, we got to shut those guys up.
00:12:03.000And eventually, here's the thing, speech is inherently messy.
00:12:07.000You get all sorts of people that are characters that you might not like, things that, you know, opinions that you might find reprehensible.
00:12:13.000But through a pattern of allowing people to speak, even with those things, is eventually over a period of time, the American people have to come to some approximation of what is best for them.
00:12:23.000That has always been the track record.
00:12:25.000The worst thing you could possibly do is then use the government and then private actors.
00:12:29.000And that's the other thing that I find so funny is that one of the accusations that, what is this, the Students for a Democratic Society, SDS, says about turning point USNS, they call us fascist, which is just hilarious.
00:12:40.000They don't really know what fascism is.
00:12:43.000A fascist is someone that tries to use government force to collude with private interests for a very specific purpose.
00:12:48.000How is that not the American government going to Facebook and asking them to censor political opponents?
00:12:54.000How is that not an act of some sort of technocratic fascism, of saying, we're going to go to Google and say that you must say that if you say certain perspectives or opinions, you're not allowed to have them.
00:13:04.000And so kind of putting all this together, I find it very comical and interesting every time people accuse us of misinformation.
00:13:41.000Finally, they said, those Generation Z, they're the worst.
00:13:44.000It used to be all millennials, the worst ever at all time.
00:13:47.000But this is kind of really more to the adults first and then to the students, which is I want to kind of focus on something I said earlier, which is we say that COVID did all these things.
00:13:56.000And even I'm a little sloppy in my language at times because I'm so used to saying it the way the regime says it.
00:14:02.000But it really was not COVID that hurt young people.
00:14:06.000And every single metric from weight gain to suicide to psychiatric drug medication to alcohol all went in the negative direction during these lockdowns.
00:14:18.000It will go down as one of the worst mistakes ever made in decent society and in our civilization, all around kind of this prevailing dogma of mass propaganda and of fear.
00:14:30.000And now you have a generation that now, let's just pretend everything was fine health-wise, despite the fact that all of these things went up, anxiety, depression, mental health issues, all those things went up.
00:14:40.000Let's just talk economically, our response to this.
00:14:42.000And this is where, you know, I'm trying to warn conservatives that if we don't get actually a coherent message around these sorts of topics and these issues, the socialists are going to have quite a field day with the next generation because when people don't own anything, they make for perfect socialists.
00:14:57.000And everything is twice as expensive, minimum, in every major metropolitan area over the last two and a half years.
00:15:06.000Conservatives and liberals decided to go print a bunch of money we did not have to inject it into mass stimulus packages.
00:15:12.000Obviously, the current administration did it more than the prior one, but there is no doubt that it was a bipartisan agreement to go continue to inflate the currency and to basically create what is record inflation, where many of you in this room probably have a fair amount of economic cynicism where you say, where exactly is this American dream that was promised to me?
00:15:38.000I'm not one or to say you should play a victim.
00:15:40.000I'm not one to say that young people should bash their adults or their elders, the adults or elders or their parents.
00:15:45.000But honestly, there needs to be a mass apology to Generation Z and to young people for what we did over the last two years, which was a drive-by shooting of a generation.
00:15:54.000And then we just say, oh, just go work harder.
00:15:56.000Actually, no, how is a young person supposed to go buy a home right now?
00:16:00.000How are they supposed to afford a mortgage with everything twice as expensive?
00:16:03.000And by the way, they could barely pay for basic goods and services.
00:16:06.000And then obviously, many of you are obviously in debt going to college, of which I have a lot of opinions around that that we can get into if you want.
00:16:14.000And the essence is this, is that this has been intergenerational robbery, the likes of which we have never seen.
00:16:20.000And just the message of, oh yeah, just go get your act together, go work together, that doesn't cut it.
00:16:24.000Now, for all you students out there, on the inverse, I implore you to reject just playing a victim and being cynical.
00:16:35.000You can still get through it with grit and hustle.
00:16:37.000There's been a lot of obviously bad things that have been dealt to you.
00:16:40.000And they were done by bad decisions and decisions by people that are not of your generation.
00:16:46.000Despite all of that, there's still an immense, there's an immense amount of wealth and happiness that you can have in your life with all of that through earned success and the proper application of your effort.
00:16:58.000There is still not in America a good reason to say, I'm just going to give up.
00:17:06.000But honestly, I say this to adults all the time because a lot of adults now that the stock market has gone down dramatically, they're feeling a little bit more.
00:17:14.000But when I say adults, I mean, people of the age of 50, they'll say all the time, they say, you know, this Generation Z is so cynical and all they want is free stuff.
00:17:21.000And they're, you know, 20 years old and they want socialism because they don't want to work.
00:17:43.000It has done complete generational carnage to the ones they love, including themselves.
00:17:47.000And so they look up at adults and they're like, oh, really?
00:17:49.000We just have to go work harder and apply more?
00:17:50.000How about you guys leave a country that's even a little bit free or prosperous for us?
00:17:54.000Because here's what's going to happen.
00:17:56.000If conservatives don't get our act together and we don't get more young people doing three very basic things, buying homes, getting married and having kids, you're going to have a socialist revolution in this country, the likes of which you've never seen.
00:18:05.000And it's going to be very, very hard to stop.
00:18:07.000Because if a generation is increasingly not owning property, not getting married and not having kids, what on earth are you supposed to tell them to go work for?
00:18:22.000I don't find it to be supportive at all.
00:18:24.000But for those of you that actually want a free enterprise to exist and to survive in the future, you have a generation that is being completely priced out of the housing market.
00:18:34.000And then you have these massive Wall Street firms coming in like BlackRock.
00:18:38.000They're buying up single family homes across America to turn you into lifelong renters to make it so that you can never actually buy into the housing system to be able to build equity and to build wealth.
00:18:51.000And boy, that's not a country that is sustainable.
00:18:54.000One of the things that actually creates, I think, de-radicalized politics is when people own stuff.
00:18:59.000People that own homes tend to not burn down Wendy's.
00:19:09.000But you have the least married generation.
00:19:11.000We have a population collapse that is down 20 to 30 percent.
00:19:14.000And this increased kind of aura of cynicism.
00:19:17.000And I hate to be too big into the materialism because I think we have a spiritual crisis in our country as well.
00:19:22.000But when a generation works super hard, and there's a lot of you that work hard, you work in minimum wage jobs, you study, and you're getting poorer, that creates a lot of nihilism, like a ton.
00:19:34.000When all of a sudden you're working a job just to stay poor, you're like, why don't I just go get government benefits?
00:19:42.000I'm sure in Tallahassee, this has not been immune from inflation.
00:19:46.000But in many of the metropolitan areas, people that are 25 to 35, they're working extra hours, they're putting more time in, and it's not even enough to stay out of debt.
00:19:54.000In fact, the recent study shows that 30% of Gen Z slash millennials are going to have to go into debt this calendar year just to pay for basic needs, groceries, and rent.
00:20:05.000And so over a period of time, what's going to prevent them from then supporting the Bolshevik Marxist that says, you know what, let's just go take it from the most productive because you've been scammed.
00:20:17.000I think there's some prudent steps we could take to actually restore this stuff, but man, we did this to ourselves.
00:20:22.000And if we just think it's going to auto-correct or self-correct by doing the same things we've been doing the last 20 or 30 years, I think that's sadly mistaken.
00:20:28.000I'm sure we could actually agree with some of the people on the left in this room, but here's where we will probably disagree with some of the people on the left, or maybe we'll agree or not.
00:20:36.000It depends on where you're coming from, is that there is still a purposeful life ahead of you, is that there's so much that could still be done of getting married and having a wonderful and beautiful life.
00:20:47.000It's just going to take some proper steps from our leaders to actually care more about your generation.
00:20:52.000I could say our generation, but I'll say your generation than the people of Ukraine.
00:20:56.000Because if you ask me, sending $70 billion to Ukraine is an insult to every single one of you that is going into debt to go pay your rent, while our citizens and your generation is working harder than ever, can't even put food on the table, and is going into a nihilistic, cynical tornado.
00:21:12.000And we're like, well, we need to go send Zelensky another $70 billion.
00:21:16.000And then Zelensky comes out and he demands money from us.
00:21:18.000Like, okay, pal, how about you set this one out?
00:21:20.000How about we go put our students first that are working their tail off, that have been lied to to go get degrees that really don't matter, that are never actually going to make them learn anything substitute.
00:21:29.000Maybe you guys are learning wonderful things all the time, and you could tell me that later.
00:21:31.000But vast majority of students that graduates say they wish they wouldn't have gone at all if it wasn't for just getting a piece of paper in return.
00:21:38.000And I think it's long past time for a realignment of priorities in more ways than one.
00:21:43.000And I sure hope our leaders start to listen.
00:21:45.000Okay, let's do some questions, guys, and thank you for sitting through that.
00:22:31.000And we've been struggling recently to get some recognition by the faculty and the leadership of the school, obviously.
00:22:40.000Kind of an uncooperative administrative body, you could say.
00:22:45.000So I was just wondering if you had any tips for helping us gain the trust of those teachers and school leaders who could potentially help us launch our student group while still keeping to our conservative America First Values.
00:23:10.000And if you can't find one, at least try to find one person that you might disagree with that still believes in freedom of speech.
00:23:16.000That, like, hey, do you at least believe that something that you might not agree with has a right to exist on campus?
00:23:21.000But honestly, this is all a very good exercise for you.
00:23:23.000And I just want to encourage you personally.
00:23:25.000The difficulty, the opposition, navigating a community that might not agree with everything that you hold is going to make you a tougher, more resilient person throughout your entire life.
00:23:36.000Just having everything easy when you are young creates a lot of misery.
00:23:41.000And I have a whole theory about this, which is that young people are the most comfortable generation in history, which is why they're the most depressed generation in history.
00:23:49.000There's a great book called Comfort Crisis.
00:23:51.000You guys should check it out by Michael Easter, which makes this argument that we as a human species, we're not designed just to be able to sit around all day and have three meals in perfectly air-conditioned to climate-controlled situations.
00:24:03.000Over a period of time, it actually creates a lot of anxiety and depression.
00:24:20.000Look at it as almost a metaphorical muscle-building opportunity so that later in life you will have gone through being called nasty names, not being in the majority, and eventually you'll be stronger because of that.
00:25:36.000And then over a period of time, you know, when you start living for a year or two or three years together, and all of a sudden the news comes on and tension is already high in the house.
00:25:47.000Are you going to be able to discuss the nightly news politely and wonderful together?
00:25:50.000Are you going to see it all in the same way?
00:25:57.000And I've seen it work every once in a while.
00:25:58.000I've seen people with opposing views build really beautiful lives and do great things.
00:26:03.000But I've seen it be of disaster more times than not.
00:26:06.000That doesn't mean, by the way, if you have find someone that shares your views, that it's going to be the most wonderful thing ever.
00:26:11.000But if you want to have children, then I believe firmly you have to marry somebody or be with someone that sees the world the same way you do, or else it's not fair to the child.
00:26:21.000Or else they're going to be having competing and confusing narratives and dialogues passed down to them at all times.
00:27:19.000And I was wondering about trickle-down economics.
00:27:24.000I was wondering, when is it going to trickle down for me?
00:27:27.000Because historically, like, I don't know, I've never personally seen it.
00:27:32.000Like, for example, Liz Truss got, well, she resigned over the dumb tax things.
00:27:38.000George Bush said it was voodoo economics.
00:27:41.000So, my question to you is: would trickle down, I mean, or when is it going to trickle down?
00:27:48.000Yeah, I'm not a defender necessarily of trigger-down economics.
00:27:51.000I mean, I think in some ways, if you want to talk about supply side versus demand, here's the thing: I happen to be, I used to be a really economic libertarian, and then I grew up and you start to see that you actually need, you know, some checks and balances on externalities in the market.
00:28:05.000I am a big defender of the market, though, generally.
00:28:33.000But the vast majority of businesses in America are small businesses run by entrepreneurs.
00:28:38.000And so, for example, my entire economic viewpoint is to make you more empowered and easier for you to be able to start a business and grow a business from something to nothing.
00:28:48.000So, you can call it whatever you want.
00:28:48.000You can call it free market economics, entrepreneurship-focused economics, whatever it is.
00:28:52.000But I think you and I could find some common ground on some things.
00:28:55.000For example, I think it's wrong and it's stupid and it's silly that the largest corporations in America don't pay anything in income tax, whether it be Amazon or ExxonMobil.
00:29:05.000And I think a lot of these loopholes are designed to be able to favor the corporate lobbyists in Washington, D.C., while everyday people get completely and totally crushed.
00:29:35.000It's not for you to take the wealth of the American people and just put it back to your health.
00:29:40.000So let me find, let me say one last thing I think that hopefully we can agree on.
00:29:43.000And this is where I'm probably in the most harmony with libertarians, okay?
00:29:48.000Which is what we are doing to our currency is immoral and wrong and has been warned for multiple decades and generations by people in the kind of libertarian community.
00:29:58.000And it makes every single person in this room poorer and it makes the oligarchs and it makes the people that run our society richer.
00:30:05.000A hyper-inflated currency benefits people that already have hard assets that are able to move money quickly.
00:30:11.000Working people get crushed by inflation.
00:30:14.000And so let's put this, let's put trickle-down economics aside.
00:30:17.000Let's say this: we need to have a monetary policy that does not destroy the value of the dollar 10% year over year so that everyday people can save and with expectations so that they all of a sudden don't have to say, well, I'm going to get 10% poorer this year.
00:30:46.000And so I think you and I could both agree that from a monetary standpoint, we should encourage saving over spending and restore the purchasing power of the American muscular middle class.
00:31:09.000And a big reason for that is what I see as a contradiction within conservatism between supporting freedom, freedom of speech to bear arms, and support for law enforcement.
00:31:25.000Because if the government were to infringe on our freedoms even more than it already has, such as banning assault rifles, for example, then the police would be the ones to enforce such tyrannical edicts as the Canadian truckers discovered.
00:31:41.000So is there a contradiction here for conservatism?
00:31:47.000So the way I would answer it is that we look at the FBI a lot differently than a local sheriff.
00:31:52.000So local sheriffs have been the ones defying all of these kind of gun-grabbing regulations and measures because the sheriff is probably someone in your local community you trust, probably someone that got elected publicly, probably someone whose kids goes to local school and almost always is a strong adherent to the Constitution.
00:32:09.000But I think you are yielding towards is something you and I could have a lot of agreement with, which is it's the FBI, the ones that take the knee for BLM, the ones that are calling for mass gun control.
00:32:30.000And so I'm a localist with this stuff.
00:32:32.000I think that the less federal control when it comes to a lot of these issues, the better.
00:32:36.000I question so much of the legitimacy of what the FBI is doing recently.
00:32:41.000And it pains me to say that as an American patriot, where I look at everything they do through a political lens now, from raiding Mar-a-Lago to spying on Donald Trump to the raiding of the homes of pro-life leaders.
00:32:54.000So your apprehension as a new libertarian is totally right.
00:32:58.000But I would just challenge you to be like, hey, that's a lot different than Sheriff Mark Lamb, for example, in Arizona, who is elected by the local people and doing everything he possibly can to go after smugglers and would never enforce a gun confiscation measure.
00:33:12.000And so we need to support our local police.
00:33:25.000Well, it's that, you know, police, whether federal, state, or local, they're tasked with upholding, you know, all the laws of the United States of America, federal, state, and local.
00:33:34.000So if the federal government were to, for example, pass a law that banned assault rifles, then wouldn't the local police then be compelled to enforce that law?
00:33:47.000We've already seen, though, a track record and a pattern of local police and sheriffs, hundreds saying, I will not enforce any of these.
00:33:53.000Montana, for example, okay, came out through every one of their sheriffs and said, we're not going to enforce an assault rifle ban.
00:33:58.000We will ignore the federal government.
00:34:00.000So I would just challenge you to kind of look at some of that, at how some of these more local law enforcement agencies are already vocalizing that they are willing to say we are not going to enforce an unconstitutional measure from the federal government.
00:34:12.000But your apprehension is well-founded.
00:34:20.000You need some form of law enforcement.
00:34:23.000And I would much rather be policed by people that live in our communities that are close to us and share our concerns than somebody far off in a distant land.
00:34:46.000I want thousands of local sheriffs that are accountable to the people and far less federal involvement kind of parachuting into our communities telling us what to do.
00:35:01.000Hi, I'm Trevor Waller, and I just had a question.
00:35:04.000Why do you think that leftists and liberals and people on the left side or why they push anti-science ideas in our school systems?
00:35:14.000Like they push the ideas where it's like a man can be a woman, a woman can be a man, there is no difference between genders, and why parents accept that?
00:35:38.000I think parents are starting to push back.
00:35:41.000I think there is kind of a default setting of being polite in a lot of these communities, and parents don't want to come across as being impolite.
00:35:48.000So why do they teach things that are contrary to science?
00:35:51.000Yeah, that's a really important and good question.
00:35:53.000They would disagree with how you just categorized it, even though it is, you know, science in and of itself.
00:35:57.000But they also have a different view of what science is.
00:35:59.000I gave a whole speech on this in Kansas City that I encourage you to check out, which is science properly understood should be about the preservation of human life and the advancement and the flourishing of human life.
00:36:09.000Science, like I would say, improperly applied, is about exerting your own will and dominion over nature to show supremacy over the design or let's just say the state of what nature is.
00:36:53.000And so with that kind of advancement of technology, praise God, we have C-sections in America, right?
00:36:58.000It's the most commonly performed surgery in America that has saved millions of pregnancies and babies that otherwise we don't know would have happened.
00:37:05.000But then you have abortion, very similar procedure in the way a trained technician has to do that, but a completely different result.
00:37:12.000And so the question really needs to be, what is science?
00:37:16.000I believe science should be first and foremost an inquiry into the natural world, understanding it.
00:37:21.000And if we have to intervene, if we have to create something new, it has to be under the moral framework of allowing human beings to flourish and to succeed.
00:37:28.000Your question about the public schools, look, I'm a local guy.
00:37:31.000If local areas want to have public government schools, so be it.
00:37:34.000But I think we have to abolish the Department of Education in Washington, D.C.
00:37:38.000I think we have to restore parents' rights to be able to have school choice and vouchers.
00:37:42.000And let me just say, you have a very, very good education program here in Florida.
00:39:10.000And then, you know, Dennis Prager has a really great speech on this that drives the left crazy, which is that men's nature is towards variety, okay?
00:39:20.000And I think it's very important for wives to just say to their husbands, thank you for being loyal to me.
00:40:27.000But there's also another risk that you have to acknowledge, which is the risk of our thousands of listeners that email me and they say, I'm 35 and I haven't found anybody and it's too late.
00:40:39.000And I could tell you right now, the risk of having resentment, of having guilt or having not guilt, having despondency or having just kind of regret, that's the better word.
00:40:51.000That's a risk that some people need to know just as much as the risk of you might not be able to go to Paris every summer.
00:40:58.000And so I don't think we communicate that all the time to young people.
00:42:37.000Before you start all of a sudden going to the rafters and saying he's the worst person ever because of what he said, and I think it could have obviously been worded differently.
00:42:45.000I had the opportunity to spend some time with him, you know, over a summer.
00:42:50.000And that was a whole whirlwind of time.
00:44:54.000I'm going to throw you, Candace Owens, and Ben Shapiro, into the same category: three people who are mainstream to the modern conservative movement.
00:45:04.000All three of you host podcasts, you go to colleges, and host events like these.
00:45:12.000And I'm sure you know that there are a lot of moments where people come up, try to challenge you, and you end up, I guess I would say, winning an argument, and it ends up getting posted on social media.
00:45:24.000People say, Oh, Charlie Kirk owns the libs.
00:45:28.000But at the end of the day, I don't think that trying to win an argument is a win for either of us.
00:45:38.000Because even though we have these events, our politicians still continue to screw our lives over every day.
00:45:45.000And you were talking about our leaders stepping up for us.
00:45:48.000So, my question to you, and let's say Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro were to also hear my question: is that why have neither of you or any of you considered running for political office?
00:46:02.000And I just want you to know that I wouldn't vote for you because I disagree with you guys on nearly everything, but I think you guys would win because obviously, obviously, because obviously, you know, you guys are very good at marketing, you have huge platforms.
00:46:20.000Instead of coming here debating against college students who all three of you have a clear advantage over because you have more life experience, why don't you debate the politicians who we are all critical of and actually make the laws in order to right their wrongs?
00:46:37.000Well, two things: I'm happy to debate anybody.
00:46:38.000I debate college professors if they want to come on the show.
00:46:43.000I'll have a long debate with Rashida Talib or Elon Omar, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders.
00:46:50.000I think Candace Owens and Ben would also agree, or Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles, kind of all of us in the same sort of team, if you will.
00:46:56.000We'll have a conversation with anybody as long as it's in good faith.
00:46:59.000Now, the reason we're here on college campuses and we take open questions, and I don't think it's debating, I think it's just respectful disagreeing.
00:47:06.000And if someone really gets heated, then yes, we are going to kind of ramp up the temperature and kind of just show the world kind of the proper way to have dialogue.
00:47:13.000But look around in the room, and I think that if I, by show of hands, do you think that most of the professors on campus are conservative or liberal?
00:47:21.000They'd probably say it's mostly liberal on campus, and they're hearing mostly liberal.
00:47:25.000So we're here to hopefully broaden the intellectual and ideological diversity on campus and to do something that's actually more important than running for office, which is to give so many young people here the confidence and the courage and the reminder that they're not alone and that there's other people that think the way they do on campus and to be able to give them a community and network.
00:47:44.000And so I think your question's in good faith, right?
00:47:47.000I'm not here to, you know, just obviously I've been doing this for 10 years.
00:47:51.000And so if someone has a disagreement, we'll have fun back and forth.
00:47:55.000At the same time, though, I think it's important that from some people who see our campus interactions forget winning or losing the debate, I think it's really helpful for the hundreds of millions of people that have seen our videos or the views over the last couple of years to kind of see what it's like to have two ideas collide in real time without scripting of cable TV.
00:48:16.000I think that's exciting and helpful for people, right?
00:48:18.000You know, for example, if I asked you, do you think men can become pregnant?
00:49:11.000So a degree in politics means next to nothing, right?
00:49:14.000If you want to get into politics, no one's going to care about where you went to school.
00:49:17.000Politics is the closest thing to a pure meritocracy of any industry you'll ever see.
00:49:21.000It's, are you going to show up early at precinct committee meetings?
00:49:24.000Are you going to make the phone calls?
00:49:25.000Are you going to drive halfway across the state for an event with 15 people?
00:49:29.000Are you going to be a body man to a state rep and kind of help them out really when they need it?
00:49:33.000And so basically, if you want to make it in politics, you have to do the gritty hustle work for years and eventually you'll get a shot to move up.
00:49:44.000Then you're going to succeed in politics.
00:49:46.000I mean, so at Turning Point USA, we have an amazing staff, 250 people.
00:49:49.000And our Turning Point USA staff is a majority of them started as Turning Point USA chapter leaders doing the nitty-gritty work and then got internships and then started to work their way up through the ranks.
00:50:00.000And so it's, we love people that dedicate themselves and work really hard and kind of in the political space.
00:50:07.000You know, it's a place where you could be really significantly rewarded by doing that.
00:51:23.000I can't stand in politics where people say one thing and do another, or they're all of a sudden very wishy-washy, with all that being said.
00:51:29.000With that kind of pretext, I'm a massive Governor DeSantis fan.
00:51:57.000And so I know that getting him another four years would make us energy independent again, would get this entire Ukrainian mess figured out, would get our economy roaring again, would secure the southern border, would restore confidence of the nation in a way that's very profound, would get CRT out of our military, wokeism out of our schools.
00:52:17.000That's enough for me to be able to say, hey, you earned the right to another four years, especially after all the nonsense and the shenanigans that happened in the 2020 election.
00:52:35.000Given the concerns you've expressed about censorship and interference with free speech, I wonder how you view the laws in Florida and other states that restrict what professors can teach about racism in the classroom.
00:52:48.000I mean, obviously, you disagree with the doctrines you teach, but why, you know, would you extend to them the same right to free speech that you advocate for everybody else?
00:52:57.000No, I mean, it's a matter of curriculum, right?
00:52:59.000So I would ask a question, should we teach the flat earth theory in physics?
00:53:06.000Should we teach bloodletting in biology?
00:53:10.000Should we teach lobotomies in medical school?
00:53:14.000Or should we teach eugenics in ethics?
00:53:16.000No, there's some ideas that are so reprehensible and provably wrong, they shouldn't be anywhere close to an academic environment.
00:53:22.000Now, a professor obviously has the freedom of speech to say what he or she wants individually, but from a curriculum standpoint, from what you're able to measure or test, to say that all of a sudden we're going to teach that race matters, that somehow that people are suffering from a pandemic of whiteness, as Coca-Cola would say, or just critical theory or critical race theory.
00:53:42.000No, that has no place in an educational environment because in an educational environment, it's less about really the opinion of the teacher or the opinion of the student.
00:53:51.000It's the pursuit of the soul and the entire being of the student towards truth, goodness, and beauty.
00:53:58.000And so you must have a teleological destination for that.
00:54:04.000So you would say that the idea that there's systemic racism in this country is as off-base as the idea that the earth is flat and as provably wrong as the idea that the earth is flat?
00:54:14.000I mean, I would ask you, how are we systemically racist?
00:54:17.000Well, I mean, we could have a long discussion, but I'm a journalist.
00:54:20.000I don't think it's a place for it, but possibly if you attended a class on it, you might get in a debate with the professor and see what their data shows and whether it's a matter of scholarly dispute.
00:54:31.000I mean, there's a lot of books on both sides, or whether it's as I'm not aware of a lot of scholarly, well-accepted books that advocate that the earth is flat.
00:54:41.000So I would say this is a matter of scholarly debate.
00:54:48.000And yeah, just to close it, yes, I think advocating for black-only dormitories is a moral equivalent of bloodletting, lobotomies, and flat earth theory.
00:55:06.000Both of my grandparents went into the hospital with COVID A year ago, last May, and they were doing fine, like getting better with everything.
00:55:15.000Um, off like whatever, they were both getting better.
00:55:18.000Expressed to my family that they were feeling better until they were put on Remdesivir, which was supported by Tony Fauci, and then they both died.
00:55:27.000I also had a friend last night who passed away from the vaccine due to heart failure.
00:56:08.000If this is true, and this happens everywhere I go to every single audience, then the CDC is not just lying, it's the greatest cover-up in modern American medical history because they say it's one in a million.
00:56:18.000And every single room I go to, hands go up.
00:56:20.000So, either everyone's lying and they're in on its mass conspiracy theory, or there's something here that people really are ignoring intentionally.
00:56:27.000So, look, Anthony Fauci should be in prison for what he has done.
00:56:34.000He's an unbelievably sinister person, and there's not enough being done.
00:56:38.000And the new Congress, whoever ends up controlling it, priority number one needs to make sure Anthony Fauci gets held to justice.
00:56:45.000And I'm very sorry to hear about the Remdesivir encounters.
00:56:49.000The pushing of Remdesivir is nothing more than expensive poison on an entire population that did not need it.
00:56:55.000Meanwhile, any conversation around ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D levels, intravenous therapy, potential ozone intervention, baby aspirin was suppressed from the top levels of our medical authorities.
00:57:09.000And so, I'm going to make it a top priority to try to hold Anthony Fauci accountable, and I encourage all of you to do the same.
00:57:22.000Do I have permission to record your answer?
00:57:24.000Yeah, when we're live streaming, so okay, cool.
00:57:27.000I know that you and other conservative speakers have spoken at length about left-leaning universities and colleges, and I agree with you to that point about how toxic it could be.
00:57:36.000My question is: is there any blame to be placed on students who are coming into colleges without any moral ideals, without any political ideals?
00:57:47.000And if there is blame, whose fault is it?
00:57:52.000There's a little blame on students, but you can't totally blame an 18-year-old for not having a certain grasp of a moral framework.
00:57:58.000I mean, I put the blame on the parents for the parents for not teaching morals or ethics or proper civics or history.
00:58:06.000And also, it's not just college, it's high schools now, it's elementary schools, it's grade schools.
00:58:11.000And so, I just say to parents all the time: you have to make it your full-time job to make sure your children share some form of values of your own.
00:58:19.000And obviously, there might be some differences and nuances there, but I wouldn't put a lot of blame on the students.
00:58:24.000A lot of kids are 18, they do what they're told, they really haven't thought that deeply yet.
00:58:27.000That's not an accusation or criticism, it's just the way it is.
00:58:29.000I put it more on the educational system and parents not properly doing their job.
00:58:40.000I'm a sophomore here at FSU, but I'm from Massachusetts and spent my last years of high school during kind of Massachusetts restrictions from the coronavirus.
00:58:50.000I watched how incredibly detrimental it was to my community's mental health, and I really appreciate what you said about America's response to COVID and everything that came with it.
00:58:59.000Why do you think America is not more focused on those issues as opposed to COVID deaths?
00:59:05.000Why is the CDC so focused on coronavirus deaths as opposed to the increasing amount of suicides, obesity, alcohol, everything you mentioned?
00:59:13.000Why do you think that COVID is the focus instead of everything that was detrimental to mental health during that period of time?
00:59:19.000Yeah, I mean, look, no one gets more powerful talking about suicide.
00:59:34.000A lot of people get wealthy and powerful off of that.
00:59:36.000I hate to be that sinister or cruel, but if our leaders cared about us, if our leaders really cared, they'd be talking about the 90 to 100,000 fentanyl overdose deaths that happen every single year in our country, sponsored by the Chinese Communist Party, trafficked in by the Sina Ola Cartel across the southern border, of which I bet half of this room knows someone in their life that has suffered from a fentanyl overdose in one way, shape, or form.
00:59:56.000And they're now doing it in the form of candy where kids are getting fentanyl-laced candy and it's killing kids all across the country.
01:00:02.000But the CDC is more worried about making sure you have your seventh booster, of which they say has now been tested on eight mice, not humans.
01:00:10.000All you guys should know that, by the way, if you get your booster, it's tested on mice, not humans.
01:00:15.000And they admit that it doesn't even stop transmission.
01:00:18.000Well, what happens is we have an entire country that's controlled by a pharma industry that does not care about the well-being or the interests of young people.
01:00:26.000The leading cause of death for a young person is either drug overdose or suicide.
01:00:31.000That should just be a fire alarm for our society.
01:00:34.000Our leaders should just say, time out.
01:00:46.000And you know what's so amazing is that we told the generation of students that now live in total fear that are eight, nine, and 10 years old that there might be an invisible virus around the corner that might kill you, even though statistically that they're in more danger in the car being a passenger to and from school every single day than COVID ever was for them.
01:01:05.000And so, look, a fearful population is easier to control.
01:01:08.000A fearful population allows tyrants to be able to do what they wish with a population.
01:01:13.000A population that cares about liberty and is courageous is a tyrant's worst nightmare.
01:02:25.000However, I feel like six weeks is slightly too early only because, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a gynecologist, but that means that week six, that means missed for period by three weeks give or take, and that's already then it's too late.
01:02:43.000Potentially, right, but there's a heartbeat around six weeks.
01:03:30.000But we as human beings tend to have size, level of development, environmental, and degree of dependency privilege.
01:03:39.000We think just because we're bigger and stronger and no longer in a womb, we have a moral right to do whatever we want to those that are still in the womb.
01:03:48.000And the toughest questions are the ones when we ask, what does it have to do with me?
01:03:53.000And is it worthy of protecting those that can't protect themselves?
01:03:57.000And so to be consistent, we say that's when human life begins.
01:04:01.000And just because the being is small, just because the being is in a womb, doesn't mean that we have a moral right to obliterate it.
01:04:23.000For example, if a family is going bankrupt because the four-year-old is eating too much food, you can't kill the four-year-old to be able to reduce the family budget, right?
01:04:56.000So with the same notion, I feel like it's like having your cake and eating it too.
01:05:02.000If you don't want women to be able to have the option at holding an abortion, but feels like they shouldn't continue to get more welfare.
01:05:11.000That means that child being brought into the world is going to not be brought up to the same measures.
01:05:17.000I think you're coming at it from a good perspective.
01:05:21.000I reject kind of situational Malthusian ethics in that regard, in the sense that if it just makes your life easier, it doesn't mean you can commit an injustice against another human being.
01:05:31.000The same goes for arson or robbery or whatever it might be.
01:05:34.000But I will agree that we have to make it easier to adopt kids in America.
01:05:37.000There's 2 million families right now on the adoption waiting list, and there's a million abortions every single year.
01:05:43.000So the idea of an unwanted pregnancy is statistically untrue.
01:05:47.000And I believe that churches and communities, and yes, even at times, city and state and local governments need to step up and say, okay, we want Roe repeal, but we have to make sure that families and parents and moms have the support that they need.
01:06:44.000We got to drill baby drill, drill far, drill wide, and tell Greta Thunberg to get the heck out of our national discourse and start actually understanding how energy policy impacts every single person in this room, okay?
01:06:56.000We've got to bring down the price of oil.
01:06:58.000We've got to tell OPEC to go shove it.
01:07:23.000No, I was just going to say, do you think that it's sort of the academic and media elite that put us in this situation to begin with?
01:07:30.000It was their policies and their philosophy, their propaganda that made it so that our national economy became over-financialized and it ate out the real economy.
01:07:43.000Yeah, I mean, it all kind of, there's a couple things that happened in the 1990s.
01:07:47.000We allowed China into the World Trade Organization.
01:07:56.000As soon as Greenspan did that, as soon as we set the precedent that there's any sort of economic misery, any sort of economic hardship, we could just kind of turn the lever on cheap money.
01:08:05.000It set this 20-year cycle that we're still living through right now with all that other nonsense of the deindustrialization of the American economy, of the hyper-financialization, as you say, led to 08.
01:08:15.000And then what was our immediate reaction to 08?
01:08:17.000Not was it wasn't just financial and fiscal stimulus.
01:08:19.000It was then monetary stimulus, is that we're going to lower rates unrealistic.
01:08:32.000And so we've been on a 20-year monetary sugar high, not caring about the next generation, not caring about your purchasing power, couldn't care less about any of it.
01:08:40.000And so the result is what we're living through right now, which is you have hyperinflation and almost very dangerously low economic growth in a tumbling stock market.
01:08:48.000Yeah, you're living through crashflation, basically, even worse than stagflation.
01:08:52.000And so if I was head of the Federal Reserve, I mean, the only way to say is that we're going to have to go through an intentional six-month recession to get this solved.
01:09:00.000There is no other way to do it because you've created this ridiculous, unrealistic circumstance.
01:10:16.000So Abrams attacked the election integrity of Georgia, which is currently experiencing record voting, especially in early voting.
01:10:24.000And Kemp responded that it's easier to vote, harder to cheat.
01:10:27.000So my question is, especially with how the mainstream media is now mad at DeSantis here in Florida for allowing some leeway in the counties affected by Hurricane Ian, how can we, in a debate with just ordinary people, refute those claims that particularly red states are somehow manipulating votes and manipulating populations to turn the election in their favor?
01:10:50.000Yeah, I just find it hilarious because we just spent the last year and a half talking about election integrity and being called election deniers and misinformation spreaders.
01:10:58.000And now they're talking about how voting is not accessible enough and how elections are being manipulated.
01:11:55.000So if you think that when you increase mail-in ballots by nearly five times, that there's not going to be some sort of spillover or overflow, mule operation, whatever you want.
01:12:08.000I mean, it's just silly to make that argument.
01:12:10.000So, look, I support the voter, the voter integrity reform measures.
01:12:13.000And the final thing I'll say about this with Stacey Abrams, it always makes me laugh.
01:12:16.000She still has not admitted she lost the 2018 governor's race.
01:13:08.000While I agree with having a limited government and believe that we should have that in the long run, wouldn't a limited federal government allow for states to infringe on our constitutional rights, such as the right to life?
01:13:18.000Do we need to temporarily use big government to protect our God-given rights in godless states like California?
01:13:35.000So if you go read the Federalist Papers, of which I encourage all of you to read, if you ever want to get ready for bed and fall asleep, they're beautiful.
01:13:53.000That kind of gang of three, John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, and James Madison, who formed our structure and system of government, in a lot of different ways, they were debating in the open air against the Jeffersonians, and both won, right?
01:14:07.000And so what they wouldn't really admit is that they took a lot of things to heart from Jefferson's critique of too strong of a centralized government.
01:14:14.000But basically, history vindicated Hamilton, okay?
01:14:17.000History showed you need some form of a federal government because the Articles of Confederation were a mess.
01:14:24.000The Articles of Confederation, you had no centralized government, you had nothing.
01:14:27.000And so there were coups, there were rebellions, no one knew how to trade, there was not the strong system of government, all this sort of stuff.
01:14:33.000And so to answer your question, should we have a federal, is it time to use big government?
01:14:39.000What it is time, though, is to pass laws that do protect the most basic things.
01:14:44.000So for example, if I'm a big supporter of pro-life legislation in all 50 states, if you can't protect those people that can't protect themselves, you're not even doing the most basic thing that government should do.
01:15:51.000So my question is more about the future.
01:15:54.000I know no one can tell the future, including me, but in the next 10 to 15 years, I want to have, I want to be married and I want to be starting a family.
01:16:02.000I'm one of five kids to two loving parents who've been married over 20 years.
01:16:07.000And I just, I'm a strong believer in raising my own family.
01:16:11.000So, however, like you say, inflation, it's on the rise.
01:16:15.000It's becoming harder and harder to make and save money.
01:16:18.000You also talk about how depression is at the high for this generation.
01:16:22.000And I've noticed that people who are in jobs they don't tend to like or don't aren't in jobs that they love, they're more likely to have depression or some form of mental health issues.
01:16:33.000So for me, like the careers, some of the careers I'm interested in don't pay the kind of money that I think it would take to support the kind of family I want, especially because I want to have a lot of kids because I'm a family with a lot of kids.
01:16:48.000So how do you think that I should go about finding a career that I both enjoy and pays the bills so that I can be happy and raise my family?
01:16:58.000Because I think being happy is necessary to emotionally, physically, and mentally support.
01:17:03.000So let me challenge one of your frameworks.
01:17:05.000I think it's going to be helpful for you.
01:17:07.000Don't go do what you're interested in.
01:19:30.000Anyway, my question is, well, first of all, all four have gone through public school, which back in 1999, when we started that, it didn't seem like a bad idea.
01:19:40.000And actually, we've had many great teachers, and it worked well for us for a long time.
01:19:45.000But obviously, in recent years, our eyes have been opened, and there's been a lot of going on and agendas pushed within the school system.
01:19:52.000I'm also the local chapter chair for our Moms for Liberty.
01:19:55.000So been on the forefront of the forefront.
01:20:11.000And actually, I've been feeling with the frustration locally that maybe it's a better idea to put energy and time into supporting, getting behind, advocating for a statewide school choice system in Florida.
01:20:42.000So Illinois, it's based all on school district and it's all sort of messed up.
01:20:45.000But I'm still a huge school choice advocate.
01:20:48.000The problem, the only issue is that you're going to have trouble getting it through the legislature because there's a lot of these deals that have been made and relationships and infrastructure that's built there.
01:21:15.000And so if a Hispanic family in the west side of Phoenix who's just really struggling economically doesn't like the local school, they could pull the trigger and get their kid to a successful school.
01:21:23.000If they don't like CRT, the woke is, and the pornography in their school, boom, they can move it right up, right?
01:21:28.000And so I would encourage you guys to entertain that.
01:21:30.000I'm not a policy wonk on this thing, but you guys have a very, you have a much better school choice system than most other states.
01:21:39.000And I hate to give credit to him for this, but Jeb Bush did a pretty good job, actually, on schools and for at least getting a charter model.
01:21:47.000And more broadly and nationally, the Florida charter system inspired so many other states to get involved in it.
01:21:54.000And Jeb was really kind of the pioneer of that, as much as it pains me to say.
01:21:59.000But I would still argue for school choice.
01:22:01.000And more than that, I just think the fight also has to be in curriculum standards and all this.
01:22:06.000And Governor DeSantis deserves such credit for not allowing the CRT nonsense.
01:22:12.000I know it's still happening and it's going back door and all of that, but to set a standard from the state level is so incredibly and critically important.
01:22:41.000So she's got here at the House of Representatives.
01:22:43.000We were wondering, property taxes, insurance, and association dues account for half of property owners' expenses.
01:22:51.000How much do you think these costs are impacting the rents, you know, besides the fact that inflation has doubled the prices of the housing market as it is right now?
01:23:54.000But look, a surplus means you're spending too much money.
01:23:56.000And so the next Florida budget needs to cut spending instead of trying to find more revenue sources to try to just continue to expand the budget.
01:24:04.000So not too in the weeds on the policy wonk side of it, but the other part is insurance.
01:24:10.000And I hate to break it to Floridians, but I am kind of a big believer in flood insurance.
01:24:15.000And that's kind of a big part of living in Florida.