Did the Trump administration deport a Maryland citizen? A dad? We explain and tell you the truth of the media lie about this story. Also, we sit with Brendan Carr about the fight for freedom of speech online and more.
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00:02:55.000Yeah. One of the very first things that President Trump did was he came in and said we are ending the federal government's promotion of DEI.
00:03:01.000He also issued an executive order calling for agencies to look at private sector DEI practices that violate Federal law.
00:03:10.000We've been doing both of those at the FCC.
00:03:11.000Day one at the FCC, I issued an order that ended the FCC's own promotion of DEI.
00:03:18.000We were spending at the FCC alone millions and millions of dollars promoting DEI.
00:03:23.000We had DEI listed as our second highest strategic priority, promoting DEI ahead of Empowering consumers, ahead of global competitiveness, ahead of sort of operational excellence at the FCC.
00:03:36.000No, promoting DEI was the FCC's second highest priority.
00:03:42.000One thing I'm doing now is I'm going through all these companies that the FCC regulates.
00:03:46.000Disney owns ABC, which is a licensed broadcaster by the FCC.
00:03:50.000And I got to tell you, what we're seeing there, Charlie, is unbelievable.
00:03:54.000The initial indications are, and this comes from some reporting from Chris Rufo, from Robbie Starbuck, other reports, information from Disney itself, that literally they were dividing employees along race and gender lines, segregating them out, giving potentially different opportunities in the employment workspace.
00:04:12.000You know, that's a violation of the FCC's own equal employment opportunity rules if the evidence end up supporting those original allegations.
00:04:21.000And I can't think of a more serious potential violation of a broadcaster than engaging in, you know, race and gender based discrimination.
00:05:03.000You know, we hope that it sort of sticks long term.
00:05:06.000But Google and YouTube in particular have a lot of work to do.
00:05:09.000And one of the things that's concerning to me is there was A number of reports, the FCC got that YouTube TV, which is effectively a cable channel, though it's virtual, it's a cable channel, cable company, has not been carrying, and apparently potentially has this, you know, unspoken policy of not carrying, you know, religious oriented programming.
00:05:30.000There was one particular channel in particular that we wrote them about.
00:05:33.000We're going to see what their full response on that is, but that's very concerning if that ends up being the case.
00:05:38.000Hopefully this dispute gets resolved favorably.
00:05:41.000So, also there's a looming question the audience has about NPR and PBS and the ongoing doging and their dodging of certain information.
00:05:55.000What should we know about these taxpayer-funded monstrosities of NPR and PBS?
00:06:03.000Yeah, so NPR and PBS, their member stations are stations, radio and TV, again, that are licensed by the FCC.
00:06:10.000So not only are they unique as compared to other speakers because they have this right to use the airwaves they're licensed for, but they're doubly benefited because they're considered non-commercial stations.
00:06:21.000I mean, they can't run commercials and because of that, they get extra benefits again.
00:06:26.000I've opened an investigation into NPR and PBS and their member stations to see whether, in fact, they've been running commercials or some suggestion that maybe they have been.
00:06:35.000And so we're going to look at enforcement action there.
00:06:37.000But more broadly, this ties into a bigger concern, which is why has Congress been forcing Americans across the country and going into their pocketbooks and making them subsidize NPR and PBS?
00:06:49.000I don't think there's any good reason for members of Congress to compel people to do that.
00:06:55.000If NPR and PBS have a particular bias or slant, great, have at it, but why don't you support yourself the way every other outlet that has a viewpoint does?
00:07:03.000It wasn't that long ago, if you did a cross-section of NPR and PBS listeners, that you sort of got a cross-section of the American electorate.
00:07:10.000And I think to some extent that makes sense if you're forcing everybody to support it.
00:07:13.000But over the last couple of years, you know, the listenership, the viewership is just clustering, you know, along the northern sector of the Acela Corridor.
00:07:20.000And yet everyone else around the country is having to pay for it.
00:07:22.000So I don't think that's a great thing.
00:07:24.000And there was just a hearing, obviously, in Congress a week or so ago where the CEOs testified.
00:07:29.000And ultimately, I don't think they advanced their cause very well before Congress.
00:07:33.000There was this piece of tape this morning, and I'm trying to find it, of a professor from University of San Diego or somewhere nearby.
00:07:40.000And they asked her, they said, hey, how do we make our politics more progressive?
00:07:46.000And she said, the number one thing we need to do is regulate social media.
00:07:51.000The number one thing they want to do is prevent different voices from having a speech on social media.
00:07:59.000They are raiding homes over what people are putting on social media in the United Kingdom as well.
00:08:04.000What is your commitment to freedom of speech at the FCC to stand against these calls to prevent conservatives like myself and this audience to speak on social media?
00:08:16.000Committed to making sure that we smash the censorship cartel.
00:08:19.000In fact, I'm doing an event just tomorrow over at the Department of Justice with the new antitrust enforcer, Gail Slater, with the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, Andrew Ferguson, and three of us are working together to make sure that we never go through what Americans live through, particularly the last four or five years, when this wave of censorship came across the country.
00:08:39.000You had social media companies themselves, Facebook, censoring lawful political speech of Americans.
00:08:44.000You had the Biden administration, of course, We've got to end that and make sure that we can never, ever go back to it.
00:08:56.000The truth is, if you look at trust in national media right now, it's at an all-time low.
00:09:01.000I mean, look, literally people have more faith in gas station sushi than they do the mainstream media, including ABC, CBS, and NBC.
00:09:09.000That's why social media is so important.
00:09:11.000That's why social media and Speech on the internet and podcasts are under attack because it lets people go around that traditional establishment media.
00:09:20.000And everyone has realized, you know, the emperor has no clothes.
00:09:22.000They've so consistently gotten so many important stories wrong and people only know about it because of free speech on the internet.
00:09:30.000And so it's a threat to their business model.
00:09:33.000And that's why we need to make sure that everyday people from the podcast to internet speech, to YouTube TV, have the ability to get a wide variety of viewpoints out there.
00:09:40.000And look, it wasn't that long ago that this was happening.
00:09:43.000There's like a progressive value, diversity of opinion.
00:09:45.000I think, you know, you and I have talked about this.
00:09:47.000I think we're, you know, the modern day op-ed actually launched on the pages of the New York Times of all places in 1970, because there was an editor there, a guy, progressive editor by the name of John Oakes.
00:09:56.000He said back then, Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy.
00:10:01.000The moment we insist everyone think the same way we do, our democratic way of life is in jeopardy.
00:10:05.000Progressive New York Times editor in the lead up to that 1970 launch of the op-ed, and look where we are now.
00:10:11.000We need to sort of re-embrace as a culture this idea of free speech, this idea of diversity of opinion, but there's a role for us at the FCC and across the government, and we're going to get it done.
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00:11:25.000Well, it would help if we could regulate social media because one of the biggest offenders is DC and Congress have not been able to do one thing in regard to the rogue corporations in social media.
00:11:41.000It's not going to get any better with Elon Musk in the administration.
00:11:45.000Brendan, there is a big push to try and regulate the speech on social media.
00:11:50.000The European Union right now has some of the most restrictive speech policies.
00:11:55.000What are you doing at the FCC to allow free and open dialogue to continue and to resist these pushes?
00:12:03.000Yeah, it's pretty wild to see the radical left complain that there wasn't enough censorship on social media.
00:12:09.000You know, you got Hunter Biden laptop store, you got all sorts of COVID discussions that were completely shut down.
00:12:16.000Again, I think with President Trump and the White House, we were exiting this era of massive censorship across the U.S. There's still work to do.
00:12:23.000Us at the FCC, DOJ, across government, we're going to do it.
00:12:26.000But your point, you know, there's a big concern globally as well.
00:12:31.000Last year, they effectively shut down They have this new law they passed called the DSA, the Digital Services Act, which effectively requires, and I would argue targets, U.S. technology companies and encourages them to engage in censorship conduct.
00:12:55.000Vice President Vance went to Europe and was spot on.
00:12:57.000He gave a speech saying, look, we're going to develop AI.
00:13:00.000America is going to lead the world with gold standard AI.
00:13:05.000But you can't be imposing these ideological biases into AI through this DSA, through this regulation of technology companies, because there's a real fork in the road on AI.
00:13:15.000You've got China, which is heading down their path.
00:13:41.000But again, this idea that technology companies haven't been censoring over the last couple of years, that's not the reality I think anybody's been living in.
00:13:49.000Well, and now they want to censor because the speech that is popular and that is viral is conservative in nature.
00:13:57.000Now they want to censor what's on social media.
00:13:59.000And remember, they were the ones that kicked President Trump off social media after January 6th.
00:14:33.000And that's what we're seeing across the board is, to your point, people having new access to information to vote.
00:14:37.000They're getting around old gatekeepers, and we're seeing a real effort to clamp down on availability of wide open political debate, political discourse, but we need it, right?
00:14:48.000You know, free speech is democracy's check on authoritarianism, and we've got to continue to stand at the rampart to defend it.
00:14:55.000So, Brendan, in closing, what are some of the other priorities that you guys are looking at the FCC?
00:15:03.000Also, the idea of internet access, I would love to see a proliferation of the use of Starlink and to get away from old antiquated ways of broadband delivery of internet.
00:15:15.000What else are you guys thinking about as top priorities of the FCC?
00:15:41.000They claim that I'm discriminating against their sacred cows, but I would simply say this.
00:15:46.000The entities that benefited from the two-tier system of justice that prevailed during the Biden years are now getting even-handed treatment from me, and that feels like discrimination to them because they were used to benefiting from weaponization, but we're running a very You know, aggressive agenda.
00:16:00.000We're following President Trump's lead.
00:16:01.000To your point, we're going to be boosting Starlink.
00:16:04.000We're going to be boosting competitors even to Starlink to get more connectivity out there.
00:16:08.000We're trying to push more airwaves out there.
00:16:10.000You know, frankly, the Biden administration kind of walked us into a cul-de-sac where China now has a massive lead on us on spectrum, which is needed for next generation connectivity.
00:16:22.000But we're running an aggressive agenda.
00:16:23.000We're bringing people back into the building at the FCC.
00:16:26.000I think just yesterday I pulled the numbers and we We're at four times the number of people are in the building now than we were on the average day last year.
00:16:33.000So we're doing a lot right now and having fun too, which is important.
00:16:39.000In fact, we've talked about on the show how there's this boycott network that is going after shows like this, this Rico type of activity that are trying to restrict over-the-top providers.
00:16:51.000And I know you guys at the FCC have eyes on all that to restore fairness and free speech.
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00:18:00.000Very smart man joins us next and I thoroughly enjoyed the research that he did regarding this lie that the media is peddling.
00:18:10.000It's Will Chamberlain, senior counsel at the Article 3 Project.
00:19:53.000Well, it just means that they should have gone through a process to try and get His, this withholding of removal revoked, you know, the, the reason this withholding of removal was granted is because he came up with this sob story in 2019, where he said, if you send me back to El Salvador, I am likely to be persecuted, maybe even murdered by the 18th street gang, which is with MS-13, one of the, or was rather one of the big gangs in El Salvador.
00:20:22.000But in the interim, Nayib Bukele has become the president of El Salvador and has effectively punished and has effectively done something to actually, you know, deal with these gangs.
00:20:32.000And as a result, El Salvador is a safe country now.
00:20:35.000And the underlying reason why he couldn't be deported there is gone.
00:20:39.000So the Trump administration could have simply gone to court, got his withholding of removal revoked, and had him sent back.
00:20:45.000So even though they didn't do that, and therefore there's this administrative error, they should have waited to remove him.
00:20:51.000The end result would have ultimately been the same.
00:20:53.000He'd have ended up back in El Salvador.
00:21:06.000But it's not as if they scooped up an American citizen or a green card holder.
00:21:10.000The media keeps on calling him a Maryland dad.
00:21:14.000According to the court documents, he has MS-13 ties and he Applied for asylum, testifying that he fears returning to El Salvador because the 18th Street gang was targeting him and threatening him with death because of his family's business.
00:21:32.000And also has ties to human trafficking.
00:22:12.000So, Will, all kidding aside here, the mass deportation plan is lawful.
00:22:18.000It might not be something that the media likes.
00:22:21.000What is your take on the deportations and the media's coverage of it and the essence?
00:22:27.000And of course, I think the Trump administration gets a little bit of a cautionary hay.
00:22:33.000You have to make sure every administrative detail is followed because, let's just be honest, if they actually would have put an American citizen in an El Salvadorian jail, Then we're in a different circumstance.
00:22:46.000That is not even remotely close to what's going on here.
00:22:49.000Will. The reason we have mass deportations is because we had a mass invasion facilitated by Joe Biden.
00:22:55.000They didn't vet every one of these migrants individually to ensure they could get into the country.
00:22:59.000On the contrary, they let them in en masse and they did so intentionally.
00:23:04.000You have to give the Trump administration a little grace in order to solve this problem.
00:23:08.000There are probably going to be moments where they are over-inclusive.
00:23:11.000And I think it's important for us as a conservative movement to not just, you know, go hit the fainting couch the moment there's a report in The Atlantic that something went wrong.
00:23:19.000I mean, here, you know, the Trump administration confessed error in court.
00:23:22.000Like the ICE filings clearly, the filings in court clearly say, yeah, this guy did have a withholding of removal to El Salvador.
00:23:28.000He shouldn't have been removed or mistake.
00:23:32.000They classified it as an administrative error rather than some profound injustice, and they're right, because if they had gone through the normal process, this guy was going to get removed back to El Salvador.
00:23:43.000Okay, so more broadly, if you were to now give political advice, or just to say broad strategic advice, because you think about these things rather deeply, Will, of where the Trump administration is proceeding and how they are executing on mass deportations and the border, what would you say?
00:24:00.000And also, talk about how we actually have a border again.
00:24:04.000Well, I mean, first off, the Trump administration deserves enormous credit for reducing illegal crossings by 95% year over year.
00:24:19.000In terms of executing on this deportation, I mean, I think it's a good check to remember that they do need to cross every T and dot every I. Um, and that the media is going to come after them hard.
00:24:30.000And so they need to make, especially make sure that no American citizens get caught up in this.
00:24:35.000But failing that, I think they do need to keep going forward.
00:24:39.000I think there's a really profound impact here of, you know, deportations in a wide variety of places, because what you'll start to see is self-deportation.
00:24:46.000You know, think about there was that student, I think at Cornell, Um, who was one of the people who was spouting all this anti-semitic stuff and involved in all these encampments and he posted on Twitter that he was self-deporting because he was afraid he was going to be detained and removed.
00:25:47.000And I want to reinforce something you said, Will, which I hope our audience internalizes.
00:25:52.000The closure of the southern border is one of the quickest public policy accomplishments and achievements of the last era since World War II.
00:26:02.000We have not seen a public crisis go from the Richter scale of 10 out of 10 to basically a non-issue.
00:26:10.000In a hundred days or less in my lifetime.
00:26:12.000Think about all the problems that we've dealt with that were crises.
00:26:16.000COVID, lockdowns, financial crisis, Iraq war, terrorism, 9-11.
00:26:22.000We have never seen a crisis since I have been born go from crisis to non-issue so quickly.
00:26:31.000And you know, sometimes this is, I would say this to, there are probably people in your audience who are like, well, why isn't the administration doing this?
00:26:37.000Or feeling like, oh, you know, they could be doing more, they could be more conservative.
00:26:41.000I mean, trust me, as somebody who's been around Republican politics, I'm 39 now, I've never seen anything like this.
00:26:47.000And don't take it for granted, because the next time, next Republican president, or, you know, in 10 or 15 years, you might be complaining that they're not doing anything at all.
00:27:17.000That leads people to think, well, you know, maybe I should just go home on my own and just get on a plane like a normal human being rather than be deported in handcuffs on a military plane.
00:27:27.000And Also, just so we are clear, I want every administrative detail to be followed, but what a signal that sends to gang members right now, and they're saying, oh my goodness, if I even might be remotely associated with MS-13 and I step foot in the United States, I might end up in an El Salvadorian prison.
00:27:44.000How's that for the neoconservative's favorite word, deterrence, Will?
00:28:01.000Mitt Romney had this soft talk about self-deportation, but Trump is actually demonstrating how you get it done.
00:28:07.000You make clear that the border is secure, that you're going to get deported, and that if you get deported by ICE, it won't be fun.
00:28:14.000There's evidence that now the cartels are sending their fentanyl to Europe because business is so bad right now in the interior of the United States.
00:28:21.000Trump's war on fentanyl is off to a strong start.
00:30:32.000But President Trump is acting with clarity and boldness and he deserves our credit and our appreciation and our praise and our gratitude that we are going to cut and freeze Planned Parenthood funding.
00:30:47.000Okay, we're going to try to do this as quickly as possible.
00:30:49.000Will, I'm going to play this trailer here.
00:32:17.000My understanding is that they've created a fictional series where, you know, it's a young white boy who at the age 13 has somehow fallen into, in seldom, a bizarre theory given that, you know, I don't think we'd ever call a 13-year-old involuntarily celibate. That's a bizarre claim to make about him.
00:32:36.000but also that he's responsible for killing a young black boy And that somehow this is now a model for what British schools should be teaching their children, that they should be making young white males in particular feel guilt implicitly on, you know, and that they, you know, are secretly monsters that could potentially go out and murder their classmates of a different race or something.
00:33:05.000And honestly, like, There's evidence that this is just a straight-up inversion of some of the very serious crimes that have been committed in Britain.
00:33:14.000Notably, there's this kid Axel Rudakubana who murdered a slew of people in Southport.
00:33:21.000And there's other instances like this where you actually do have a serious spree of knife crime committed by sometimes young black males.
00:33:30.000So the idea that you would suddenly turn this around and make it about white males is just...
00:33:36.000I mean, I don't have a better phrase for it than blood libel.
00:33:40.000So the idea is that a white kid gets consumed by far-right content online, like the Charlie Kirk show, so he stabbed a girl to death.
00:33:48.000And this shows the crisis of radical content online that Britain must stop.
00:33:53.000It proves that we need more censorship, when in reality knife crime in Britain is almost entirely by non-white, mostly Muslim immigrant populations.
00:34:34.000Yeah, they've turned a fantasy into something they believe their young white males need to be lectured about.
00:34:41.000It's offensive, and I think it'll ultimately be counterproductive because I think that it will breed a lot of resentment towards the establishment from young white males and turn them to the right.