00:00:01.000A fun unscripted conversation with Jack Cashill about white flight and then a conversation about what organization on the left is taking over America without us even realizing it.
00:01:34.000Have you grown closer, farther apart from God?
00:01:37.000Not just through this, but just in your seven years from Fox, because you do talk more spiritually, especially in the last couple of years.
00:01:43.000I probably shouldn't because, I mean, I love it.
00:01:45.000You don't want to take spiritual advice from me.
00:02:42.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:46.000So when I first started looking into America Votes, it was because I was looking at the Open Society and George Soros and what he has been doing with funding and noticed this huge donation and wanted to find out, well, what do they do?
00:04:06.000And come to find out they really are this organization that is the hub when it comes to voters.
00:04:13.000They go out, they engage in the community, and they try to get more people to vote early, especially people of color and the younger generations.
00:04:23.000And they are looking to advance progressive ideologies.
00:04:27.000So what exactly is this organization called again?
00:06:31.000Yeah, there is an effort from the RNC because of what happened in the 2022 election and in 2020.
00:06:38.000So I think there is an effort to say, hey, we're going to, let's get out there and do a little bit more organization, but it is not nearly to the level of America Vote.
00:06:49.000Yeah, and so they technically say they are a 501c4 social welfare organization, which we run a social welfare organization, Turning Point Action as well.
00:07:00.000But they're also very focused on early voting and a coordination hub.
00:07:04.000What I find to be really interesting is that they're able to get a lot of these alliance organizations, AFL-CIO, AFSCAMI, Alliance for Youth Action.
00:07:12.000I haven't even heard of some of these organizations.
00:07:15.000For example, the Alliance for Youth Action grows progressive people power across America by empowering local young people's organizations to strengthen our democracy, fix our economy, and correct injustices through on-the-ground organizing.
00:07:29.000You go through it, there's dozens of these organizations, Black Votes Matter Fund.
00:07:34.000I mean, I've even heard of all these groups.
00:07:36.000And so is America Votes the central hub or do they just call themselves the central hub?
00:07:42.000the closest thing to quote unquote the offensive coordinator of the Democrat offense.
00:07:48.000So they call themselves the progressive hub.
00:07:52.000And what they're trying to do is reduce duplication efforts and to make it so there's more streamlined.
00:07:58.000They say that anytime a voter is engaged more than once, that's a wasted effort.
00:08:55.000There's other organizations that have hundreds of millions of dollars, but their role seems to be they are the appointed on-the-ground non-duplication nonprofit.
00:09:07.000So was that a role given to them by Arabella Advisors or Democracy Alliance?
00:09:12.000Or did they just kind of, they just kind of grew into it?
00:09:41.000But it started out just trying to get everything coordinated and streamlined.
00:09:47.000And I don't know if they were like designated as the coordination hub or that's just what it became over time.
00:09:54.000It sounds like it more became that way over time.
00:09:57.000I don't know if you've read the blueprint, which talks about what happened to politics in Colorado, where Jared Paulus and a group of billionaires came in and made everything streamlined because they didn't want to waste money.
00:10:26.000And so look, you know, at Turning Point Action, we're trying our best to create a similar hub, but most organizations on the right do not want to work together because they're afraid somebody will get the credit.
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00:12:01.000The last thing that Rush Lumbaugh said at the Turning Point USA event, I think it was his last public speech before he passed away, was warning a group of kids about the green agenda.
00:12:37.000The amount of censorship that is now happening, if you dare disagree or ask questions about the climate dogma, the climate earth-worshiping religion, is remarkable.
00:12:46.000If there's an issue that is just kind of creeping up and creeping up, and it's not even in the back burner, it's just always kind of a third or fourth thing in the news cycle, third or fourth thing in the news cycle.
00:12:56.000Lawsuits here and fossil fuel abolition there.
00:13:00.000A tyrant's fantasy is to have a massive green economy transition.
00:13:40.000Scientist John Clauser, who won a Nobel Prize in physics last year, had been scheduled to give a speech at a climate seminar hosted by the International Monetary Fund.
00:13:50.000John Clauser has come out and he said the climate crisis is a hoax.
00:14:59.000We're going to say what is permissible activity.
00:15:02.000When you secularize society, it doesn't stay godless.
00:15:06.000You replace it with pseudo-fabricated religions.
00:15:11.000So as America becomes less Christian, as America becomes less Judeo-Christian in our value system, we just go back to earth worship, the very thing the Bible was written to refute.
00:17:11.000It will be the green calf that comes forward in this generation and makes us forsake our traditions, our customs, our liberties, and our freedoms.
00:18:59.000So it's called Untennable, The True Story of White Ethnic Flight from America Cities by Jack Cashel.
00:19:05.000So there is a narrative that stems from academia that the traditional explanation of quote-unquote white ethnic flight was just simply and solely because of racism.
00:19:34.000Thomas Sowell dedicated his best book, which is Discrimination and Disparities, on this idea that if there is a disparity, racism is not necessarily to blame.
00:20:23.000I asked one lifelong friend, a rare Democrat among the displaced, why he and his widowed mother finally left our block in the early 1970s, 20 years after the first black family moved in.
00:20:34.000He searched a minute for the right set of words and he simply said, quote, it became untenable.
00:20:38.000When I asked what he meant by untenable, he answered, when your mother gets mugged for the second time, that's untenable.
00:20:43.000When your home gets broken into the second time, that's untenable.
00:20:46.000In researching this project, I found myself repeatedly stunned by the failure of self-described experts on white flight to ask those accused of fleeing why they had fled.
00:20:55.000The reason the experts didn't ask, I discovered, is because they were afraid of what they might learn.
00:21:00.000What did you learn and what were people afraid of learning, Jack Cashle?
00:21:04.000Learning, Charlie, and that's an excellent quote to begin with, because my friend's story, Times a Million, is a story of white flight.
00:21:11.000And, you know, there was an op-ed in the New York Times just a few years ago that I found actually kind of amusing.
00:21:18.000This woman named Zalia Bustan, Professor Princeton, award-winning author of a book on white flight.
00:21:26.000She goes through the, she imagines herself like a Trump, like a Democratic strategist right after Trump's victory in 2016, saying, what caused it?
00:21:37.000Was it economic insecurity or was it just pure racism?
00:21:41.000And so she concludes it's a mixture of the both.
00:21:44.000And then she ends her article by saying, you know, the odd thing is that none of these people left accounts and they probably don't even know why they left, right?
00:21:53.000I had just interviewed 50 people who knew exactly why they left and they were prepared to tell her.
00:22:00.000And, you know, as a go into the comment section of the New York Times, distrusting the New York Times readers, but one after another of the commenters gave these harrowing, hair-raising stories about why they were forced to leave neighborhoods they loved.
00:22:16.000And they said, how can you possibly, several of them said, how can you possibly write an article about white flight without mentioning crime or schools?
00:22:25.000And that really cut to the heart of it because the people who are sending the narrative have never talked to the people who were the victims of their narrative.
00:22:36.000You know, I think because there's a deep case of 60s denialism going on.
00:22:41.000There's several phenomena that happened more or less in the 60s that they're responsible for.
00:22:47.000One of which was the, you know, these variety of social programs that made it impractical to have a married husband in the house.
00:22:56.000The other was the moral loosening in the culture that made it acceptable to not have a married husband in the house, but to have children outside of marriage.
00:23:06.000And the combination of the two, Charlie, led to a collapse of the black family and with it, a crumbling of inner city black culture that no one wants to talk about.
00:23:20.000So the consensus of academia, I go to a college campus and they'll say one of the reasons why black America struggles is because of quote unquote white flight, this amount of people that left.
00:23:32.000Let's just take my home city of Chicago, right?
00:23:34.000Certain cities that used to be white working class.
00:23:38.000I think of, you know, where the book The Jungle was written, right?
00:23:42.000Kind of South, you know, it was, it was very Polish, very Czechoslovakian, very Bohemian, and very Irish, and it's not very much that way anymore.
00:23:52.000The only acceptable explanation when you mention this is because the Czechoslovakians and the Poles were racist.
00:23:59.000What you're saying, though, is that, well, no, it's actually because their homes and their communities, their local churches and the places they loved became unrecognizable.
00:24:20.000You know, her family, her father's a ward healer, a precinct captain for the daily machine.
00:24:25.000And they're living pretty comfortably in an enclave called Parkway Gardens, which was a co-op, you know, a very high-end black co-op.
00:24:34.000Their neighborhood collapses around them.
00:24:37.000So Michelle's mother, Marion Robinson, who's a good, responsible parent, refuses to send Michelle and her brother Craig to the neighborhood public school, even though it's brand new.
00:24:48.000And they send them to a neighborhood in South Shore, which you probably know, which at that time was still, it had been Jewish and it was transitioning.
00:24:58.000But the schools, and it was a classy misdemeanor to do what Marion Robinson did, which was to drive her children 15 minutes away from their neighborhood to go to put them in a school that wasn't in their neighborhood.
00:25:18.000And what they did with Brother Craig, because there's an old black high school down the street, but for Craig, Marion took a second job to send him to a Catholic school, even though they weren't Catholic.
00:25:31.000So everyone was affected by the collapse of the culture, the inner city culture.
00:25:41.000So talk also about the, and again, I'm just going to keep going back to Chicago, because I think Chicago, I mean, Detroit's a good example, but Chicago is one I know really well.
00:25:48.000So you have these 1960 programs where crime exploded, illegitimacy exploded, you had moral chaos explosion.
00:25:56.000And, you know, we kind of memory hold how catastrophic the 1960s were from a public policy standpoint.
00:26:04.000One of the things that also happened, though, was Caprini Green and this idea of public projects and vertical housing and almost forced assimilation, which, I mean, if anyone knows where Caprini Green is, it wasn't near Kamiski.
00:26:20.000Caprini Green was on the north side in the most unusual place.
00:26:24.000Talk about kind of central planners that went nuts with this idea of forced assimilation and the consequences of that.
00:26:31.000And, you know, it's an interesting question, Charlie, because we're going through that again now.
00:27:14.000Here's the thing that they won't acknowledge is that initially they worked.
00:27:21.000For the first few years, they worked as long as the families in those buildings were intact nuclear families.
00:27:28.000And I found this one book that was very useful for me.
00:27:32.000It was a story by a book by an unpublished book by a guy named George Langston Cook, who was a, who grew up in Columbus Homes, which is Newark, New Jersey's most notorious project.
00:27:46.000For the first few years he was there, he said it was heaven, you know, because all his old nuclear families, blah, blah, blah, everyone got along.
00:29:49.000My great-grandmother grew up in a Polish working class family in a neighborhood now where if you got near it, you get shot.
00:29:57.000Like you have a better chance to get shot than anything else.
00:30:00.000It's about 20 blocks south of Kamiski Park, right near 47th Street or 51st Street, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in Chicago.
00:30:07.000And then on my wife's side, her family grew up in Chicago, right near Midway Airport, which is still a little bit working class, but it's largely been.
00:30:14.000And there is this kind of sort of Damocles where you send your kids off to college and they believe that now they go back and tell their grandparents you were racist.
00:30:23.000It's actually, it is vindicating your ancestors is what you're doing.
00:30:27.000I think that's really smart and it's so important.
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00:31:44.000The book, super interesting and, I mean, untenable, the true story of white ethnic flight from America cities.
00:31:51.000Yeah, I mean, my grandparents and my great-grandparents moved out of Chicago because of crime.
00:31:56.000That's how it was always taught to us.
00:31:57.000But professors say, oh, it's because they were racist.
00:32:01.000Yeah, they didn't want to get murdered.
00:32:04.000So Jack, in your historical estimation, why is it that blacks have such high, why are they, why are the single motherhood rates so great in the black community?
00:32:15.000It's, you know, they were somewhat vulnerable as the last immigrant group to come to America, I mean, to come to the cities, I should say.
00:32:24.000The Italians, the Poles, the Irish had gotten there in the early part of the 20th century.
00:32:29.000Then they cut off immigration in 1924 from the south and east of Europe.
00:32:35.000But the black great migration continues into the cities.
00:32:39.000And when they start arriving in the cities, the kind of the ethos is changing away from becoming a nation where people are held responsible for their own behavior to one where the social workers, et cetera, are rushing in saying, you're not at fault.
00:34:22.000And he says to them, he says, if we're to be honest with ourselves, we have to admit that the real problem in our community is the absence of fathers in the household.
00:34:31.000Too many boys, too many men are acting like boys and abandoning their responsibilities.
00:34:36.000And then he goes through the litany of crises that occur when fatherlessness is omnipresent, 10 times more likely to end up in prison, 12 times more likely to commit crime, 20 times more likely to end up in poverty, et cetera, et cetera, down the whole list.
00:34:54.000It was an excellent speech, the kind of speech you should have been giving.
00:34:57.000He was a candidate then in 2008, Father's Day.
00:35:03.000And Jesse Jackson gets picked up on a hot mic two weeks later at a Fox News studio, as though Jesse didn't know he was going to be picked up.
00:35:28.000So, I mean, without getting too deep into the motivations, about a minute remaining, why is it that the Democrat Party is at odds with fathers?
00:35:36.000I mean, is it as Machiavellian as if father rate, if fathers go back into the homes and they're publicly advocated, the tyrants become less powerful?
00:35:44.000Well, the black single females is the single greatest cohort, the most dependable cohort in the party.
00:35:52.000And they're married to the government now and they know it.
00:35:57.000And if that government turns on them and the Democratic Party turns on them, they'll have to rethink everything.
00:36:05.000Look what they did to Robert Kennedy the other day.
00:36:12.000And we're going to have you back on, Jack, because you talk about topics that it seems like you don't care when people call you the R-word.
00:36:20.000I tell you, the super weapon that we have against these toxic Marxist movement is just not care when they call you a racist.