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00:02:30.000Someone's got to think of the children.
00:02:32.000And it wants to make it easier to, I guess, remove CP from Twitter, order platforms to take down objectionable content.
00:02:43.000And in so doing, also, it proposes to revamp or amend the criminal code to add a definition for the term hatred so that they can add hate speech as aggravating factors and standalone crimes, basically, in Canada.
00:02:58.000And so they want to amend the criminal code to add a definition for hatred, which I got to read it because it'll make you laugh with the silliness of it.
00:03:07.000Hatred, subsection 319 of this act, which is the criminal code, defined by adding hatred, means the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike.
00:03:20.000And so they want to add an idiotic, unenforceable, ambiguous definition for the term hatred while authorizing people to go to the human rights tribunals for hate speech, all these things.
00:03:33.000It's Orwellian beyond our wildest dreams, and it really is intended to basically just shut people up and be weaponized against political dissidents.
00:03:46.000That is for promoting or advocating genocide, a potential imprisonment of life in prison.
00:03:53.000It's scary because it's gotten past the first stage where they have this coalition government with the NDP, the New Democrat Party, and it's gotten past a first reading.
00:04:15.000Because if we go by the UN definition of genocide, which is much broader than I think people appreciate, you know, suppressing linguistic freedoms or displacing peoples is a form of genocide.
00:04:28.000And so born and raised in Quebec, there's been a lot of people who say, you know, Quebec should be a French-speaking only province.
00:04:34.000Is that going to be hate speech or promoting genocide?
00:04:45.000I don't think it should be even criminalized to say deny gen, people want to deny genocide.
00:04:50.000Let's, I want to know who they are, first of all.
00:04:52.000But promoting and advocating genocide, what the hell does that even mean?
00:04:56.000There are people out there who sincerely assert that misgendering someone is a form of genocide.
00:05:02.000And so it's basically like back in the day, Bill C-16, which was adding gender expression and gender identity to aggravating factors into the criminal code.
00:05:10.000Jordan Peterson came out and said, this is going to result in compelled speech.
00:05:13.000And he's proven to be more right than wrong.
00:05:16.000This is literally just providing the weapons for people to run around snitching on their neighbors, trying to take them to human rights tribunals, trying to get $20,000 penalties and try to shut them up or lock them up for life.
00:05:28.000So the resistance in Canada, I can't imagine that it's spirited at this point because everyone's afraid that they're going to end up in prison.
00:05:37.000Is this kind of chilling of the centralized chilling from the government, is it effective?
00:06:07.000And then you politely, silently sit back while your country is taken over by a tyrant who cloaks his tyranny in liberalism, progressivism, benevolence.
00:06:15.000And so it's been one law after another, and especially since COVID, firearm restrictions, enhancing those, increasing those by order and counsel.
00:06:24.000They just pass it by order and counsel because they have the authority under the enacting legislation.
00:06:29.000Then you get the Online Streaming Act, which looks to control the internet the same way the government monopolizes and controls radio and television.
00:06:38.000And then in the passing of that law, the liberal government says, well, we're not going to come after individual content creator accounts.
00:06:45.000And then lo and behold, they remove that exclusion from the law and they will go after and regulate and fine and create, impose Canadian content requirements on independent, individual social media user accounts.
00:06:59.000What it is basically, this is my underlying theory here, is that it's basically just an attempt to prop back up a flailing government subsidized propagandist media entity organization captured media that we have in Canada.
00:07:12.000CBC is the Canadian pravda, I call it, subsidized by the government.
00:07:16.000The other print media has been subsidized by bailouts.
00:07:19.000The digital media is subsidized by COVID ads, government spending.
00:07:23.000And they're under the control of the government.
00:07:24.000The only place they're losing because quality tends to succeed is on the internet.
00:07:28.000And so you come in with the Online Streaming Act to try to govern independent creators.
00:07:33.000You come in with this hate speech law that is going to basically criminalize tweets.
00:07:37.000And not hypothetically, not hyperbolically, in reality.
00:07:41.000The Bill C63 is so wild that if you have access to deleting a tweet and don't and someone else republishes it, then a retroactive tweet that predates the enacting of this legislation, if it ever comes to be, would be verboten, would be a crime under it, it would be sanctionable under this law.
00:07:57.000And so it's basically an attempt to suppress control and weaponize all aspects of the government against dissidents while propping up the flailing captured media that is beholden to the liberal government.
00:08:07.000I'm sure that in some ways you wish you had some form of a First Amendment that we have in the United States.
00:08:12.000What speech protections do you have in Canada, if any?
00:08:16.000I mean, look, I've discovered something under COVID.
00:08:38.000We don't have people are going to say, look, you don't get locked up for I have the freedom of speech to complain against the government, so you have freedom of speech.
00:09:54.000You get massive restrictions on speech, restrictions on mobility, restrictions on the ability to flourish.
00:10:01.000But there is the promise that we're going to keep you safe.
00:10:04.000Universal health care, universal basic income.
00:10:07.000We will keep you comfortable, but you will not be free.
00:10:12.000And that is exactly where they want to take the entire West.
00:10:14.000And it's easier to control a society if government is making them comfortable.
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00:11:27.000So Viva, you mentioned this earlier, but I want to play this out.
00:11:30.000Is it because Canadians are so nice that the bad guys have been able to take over?
00:11:35.000Is it the temperament of agreeability that allows this parasitic movement to envelop a once great country?
00:11:44.000I don't, I could chalk a lot of it up to history and the history of what Canada was when it was founded.
00:11:52.000You could also blame a little bit on culture where, you know, culturally people think Canadians are polite and it might, I'd say, might influence who comes to Canada versus Americans are brash and, you know, gun toting whatever.
00:12:03.000And it might affect who comes to America and why.
00:12:05.000But without getting into something that I can't possibly explain away fully, the bottom line, you said it before the break, you know, you sacrifice liberty for security.
00:12:14.000The irony is you end up getting neither.
00:12:28.000Under Trudeau's regime, when we sacrificed all of our rights to the government, what happens then?
00:12:33.000We don't have the security to donate to charities of our choice without the risk of the government freezing our accounts.
00:12:38.000You don't have the right to leave your house if the government says health measures warrant you being locked in your house or locking up your child because they're not vaccinated and they're told to quarantine.
00:12:47.000So the irony is you end up sacrificing liberty for security.
00:12:52.000You end up with neither because you've got bad faith actors like Justin Trudeau, like I'd say most politicians in general, who thrive on the power.
00:13:02.000They'll justify it under their own psychology for the betterment for the greater good.
00:13:07.000At the end of the day, though, you see what's happening in Canada.
00:13:11.000Increasingly restricted freedom of speech, criminalized speech, no Second Amendment rights whatsoever.
00:13:17.000And yet it might be safer than America in some sense, but the gun violence is going up and up and up year over year, despite stricter laws.
00:13:35.000I mean, is there a moment where Canada becomes so dangerous where you as an outspoken freedom lover, liberty lover, can no longer live there?
00:14:02.000I'm not living in a place that's going to tell me what I have to put in my kids in order for them to have a normal childhood.
00:14:08.000This is also in an era where like my wife goes to a kid's play and they're wearing face masks.
00:14:13.000And my kid, who's 12 at the time, is being berated for not showing her vaccine passport, even though she didn't have to show one.
00:14:19.000I was like, this is not a country where we can live and raise children normally.
00:14:23.000And so whether or not it turns out to be permanent, temporarily, it's not a place where I would feel comfortable doing what I'm doing now.
00:14:30.000It's not a place where I'd be able to continue doing what I'm doing now because they're going to go regulate content online and say, and impact its exposure under the Online Streaming Act.
00:14:40.000If you don't satisfy Canadian content requirements and they deem you to be a publisher or distributor, whatever they call it under the law, they'll either fine you, they'll suppress you algorithmically.
00:14:50.000And if you say mean tweets that they deem to be promoting hatred, if this law passes, they'll literally fine you into bankruptcy.
00:14:57.000Once upon a time, I don't know if you know this guy, there was a stand-up comic named Mike Ward, French Canadian guy, made a joke about a celebrity team who was also mentally dominant, suffered from treacherous Collins syndrome, handicapped.
00:15:10.000And the kid got famous by singing for the Pope.
00:15:13.000And this stand-up comic made a late night bit making fun of, you know, joking about the kid.
00:15:18.000And the kid took him to a human rights tribunal that granted the kid and his mother, I mean, it was like $40,000, $50,000 for jokes that violated his dignity and that of the mother.
00:15:28.000The guy took it up to the Supreme Court of Canada, and it barely, barely succeeded in getting overturned five to four.
00:15:35.000A joke, a stand-up comic made about a young celebrity kid who happened to be handicapped.
00:15:40.000What this law is trying to do now is basically succeed or legislate where the Supreme Court ruled: no, you can still make jokes, and no, you don't get to criminalize words.
00:15:49.000You don't get to use human rights tribunals like proverbial political jackpots to go sue, get money, snitch out to the government so they can suppress their political adversaries.
00:15:57.000So, bottom line, like the likes of rebel news, post-millennial, whatever's left in Canada, it's going to be a problem.
00:16:05.000And then, what ends up happening is you get the financial exodus, you get the intellectual exodus, and then Canada ends up being a country where you can't link to news sources anymore because they say we're not doing business.
00:16:57.000We had last month saving babies with pre-born by providing ultrasounds.
00:17:01.000And we're doing again this year what we did last year.
00:17:04.000We're going to stand for life because remaining silent in the face of the most radically pro-death administration is not an option.
00:17:09.000As Sir Edmund Burke said, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing, and we're not going to do nothing.
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00:17:56.000Last week, we had Glenn Beck on the program talking about the unacceptable and evil story of how the federal government mobilized against a journalist who was there on January 6th, Steve Baker.
00:18:09.000Steve Baker is now officially a January 6th defendant, investigative reporter for theblaze.com.
00:18:32.000Well, obviously, I got to do something on Friday that I hope nobody else has to do, at least certainly not for the reasons that I had to do it.
00:18:42.000But, you know, I am officially now what they call a J6er.
00:18:48.000It was my misdemeanor, glorified trespassing activities while I was wielding a camera and writing stories about everything that I work on on January 6th, three years ago that finally led to this place to where the government decided that in order to make a show out of my case in particular, either to send a message to me or send a message to everyone else,
00:19:17.000kind of on our side of the political spectrum, is that if we don't comport with the narrative and we don't behave exactly in the manner in which they want us to do, whether nonviolent or not, as is the case with me, that they will put you in leg shackles and belly chains and march you into a courtroom in front of a magistrate.
00:19:36.000So, Steve, what exactly are you accused of?
00:20:18.000And then, of course, the fourth charge is that infamous picketing and parading charge, which again, we'll be able to prove that by virtue of the video.
00:20:26.000So the first charge, technically, was I in a restricted space?
00:20:39.000They crossed the same barrier that I did.
00:20:42.000They went through busted open doors or broken windows in order to go in and recover and cover the event.
00:20:48.000But so far, only about six or eight of us have actually been charged with any type of crime, all misdemeanors that were doing journalism that day.
00:20:56.000And all of us that have been charged, we have come from a more right-leaning perspective in either what our perception of the day was or whatever organization we submitted our work to.
00:21:09.000So, Steve, it's just, I'm going to say this facetiously, like, did you burn a Wendy's or like put a pipe bomb down or something?
00:21:17.000I mean, it's just, they're treating you like as if you're Timothy McVay.
00:21:20.000Can you walk us through the last couple of years?
00:21:22.000Because this was a little bit of a cat and mouse routine.
00:21:27.000Part of the punishment was the process.
00:21:30.000And Steve, I wouldn't fault you if you told me that you had sleepless nights or if you heard a creak in the attic, you were wondering if the FBI was knocking on your door.
00:21:39.000The delayed indictment was torture, I'm sure.
00:21:43.000And I believe that's intentional torture by this regime.
00:21:48.000Charlie, I had to, well, look, for two and a half years, I didn't need to set an alarm because I would wake up every morning at 6 o'clock looking for the red dots through my bedroom window.
00:22:01.000And what I mean by that, obviously, is the targeting scopes of a M4 rifle from a FBI SWAT team.
00:22:11.000And don't think for a minute that I'm exaggerating because other defendants, including other journalists who were charged with the exact same four misdemeanors as I am, they have been swatted by as many as 20 or 25 agents at a time for these same four nonviolent misdemeanor charges.
00:22:29.000And so I had every reason to anticipate or the potential that that would happen to me.
00:22:35.000But yes, that cat and mouse game began last, not last July, but July of 21 when I got my first call from the FBI.
00:22:44.000I mean, as soon as they caught the first time the agent called me, I said, hey, what took you so long?
00:22:48.000And then the next game that was played was they had to go and get specific permission from the United States Attorney General's office to interview me because as a member of the press, as a working journalist, even independent, they have to get permission.
00:23:07.000They had to acknowledge that, that they had to get permission from the U.S. Attorney's General's office to interview me or any other member of the press.
00:23:16.000So we did an interview in October and November of 21.
00:23:20.000My attorney then got an email from the Department of Justice saying that they were going to charge me within the week.
00:23:25.000So now the cat and mouse game really began in earnest because then we launched a media offensive on myself and my attorneys.
00:23:33.000And then when we came out on the other end of that within the week period, the Department of Justice went silent for 20 months.
00:23:41.000We didn't hear a peep out of them, not a word.
00:23:43.000So after telling me that I was going to be charged within the week for what, we don't know, but whatever it was going to be, the point being is they went silent until August of last year.
00:23:54.000And then I get a grand jury subpoena for my work, for the work I did on January 6th.
00:24:02.000But you probably know, Charlie, that grand juries are not seated for misdemeanor offenses.
00:24:09.000So a grand jury would only be looking at me because the government had brought to them the idea or an allegation that there was a felony possibility that they needed to investigate.
00:24:21.000Well, apparently, we can only conjecture because grand juries are their hearings are private.
00:24:26.000So we don't know what was said or what their ruling was.
00:24:29.000We can only conjecture that whatever that felony or felonies were that the DOJ wanted to bring, the grand jury rejected that.
00:24:36.000So they finally came around with this misdemeanor batch.
00:24:40.000But we heard from them in mid-December.
00:24:43.000I was actually sitting in Representative Thomas Massey's office on December 14th when I got another call from my attorney.
00:24:50.000And he said, okay, this is the big one.
00:25:46.000They had to take me down to the federal courthouse, hand me over to the U.S. Marshals, who then proceeded to put me in leg chains and belly chains and then put me in a cell with methamphetamine dealers.
00:26:04.000And this was while you were waiting for the bail to be posted or you were waiting for the paperwork to be processed?
00:26:10.000We didn't have to do bail, but it was a paperwork process.
00:26:13.000I had, you know, I got out for a while to actually go sit in the hearing because they marched me in those leg chains before the magistrate, where coincidentally, by the way, another felony defendant was sitting in there on a simple order to appear in the gallery, was called up right after me to answer her charges.
00:26:30.000She pleaded not guilty and she was in her nice dress and with her attorney on a felony charge and she was not required to be in leg chains.
00:26:37.000So, so Steve, how much in legal fees has this currently cost you this entire debacle?
00:27:00.000And I don't know if you heard, but Friday morning on Glenn's show, Alan Dershowitz threw his hat into the ring and said, if we want him on the team, he'll come on pro bono as well.
00:27:41.000He went and did a bench trial in D.C., and then he was sentenced to eight months in a medium security facility where they don't house misdemeanor defendants at all, zero, unless you're a J6 defendant.
00:27:53.000He spent his first two months in solitary confinement by wasting the government's for the crime of wasting the government's time and making them work and actually have to try him rather than him taking the plea deal officer.
00:28:05.000On the other hand, just a couple of months ago, another independent journalist by the name of Stephen Horn, also from Raleigh, North Carolina, coincidentally, he went to it and took a jury trial on the same four charges, was convicted on all four.
00:28:20.000But that judge, Judge Kelly, the same guy who sentenced the Proud Boys to so many years, Judge Kelly actually had mercy on him and only gave him probation and a $2,000 fine, but gave him no prison time.
00:28:45.000And federal law enforcement spends hundreds of man hours chasing you around the country like you're some sort of hardened criminal to book you like you're El Chapo in leg irons in a prison cell.
00:29:01.000For years, I've been talking about our nation's public schools have been captured by progressive ideologues, especially true if you're a Christian family.
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00:29:40.000So Steve, has this lessened or weakened your resolve to fight for truth as a journalist with the Blaze?
00:29:47.000What has this done for you personally?
00:29:50.000It's not really affected my resolve at all.
00:29:53.000My resolve has been from the beginning of this to get to the bottom of the truth and to reveal it to the American people.
00:29:59.000And, you know, we've been pretty successful at some of that effort so far.
00:30:06.000You know, we were able to show perjury in the Oathkeepers trial by two United States Capitol Police officers.
00:30:13.000We've been able to do more work and more revelation on the DNC pipe bomb than anybody else.
00:30:18.000We were able to actually show the detonation or the destruction of that bomb by virtue of a camera that the Capitol Police had forgotten about because we now know that they turned three.
00:30:29.000I originally reported that there was only two, but Joe Hanneman from the Epoch Times, he has found a third camera that was turned away from the investigation scene.
00:30:38.000And so obviously we're getting to the heart of the cover-up there.
00:30:44.000What are they trying to cover up in that particular circumstance?
00:30:47.000I'm the first one to show or tell the American people that it wasn't a quote-unquote passerby, as the FBI has said for three solid years, that it was in fact the United States plainclothes Capitol Police officer who discovered the pipe bomb.
00:31:27.000I don't know if you know this, Charlie, but the Capitol Police are not subjected to Freedom of Information requests.
00:31:34.000So we can't FOIA for these documents that we know exist and that we need to continue revealing that story.
00:31:42.000And part of the problem is that it's not just the Capitol Police, but once we have those documents in our hands, we're only one more very thin layer around from going to the heart of where this setup happened on January 6th and who put it together.
00:32:00.000And Steve, you know, as this continues, what does the timeline then look for you with these trials?
00:32:05.000Sometimes they could be stretch on forever.
00:32:07.000What does your trial potentially look like?
00:32:10.000Look, we have no idea yet because we still have no idea what our strategy is going to be.
00:32:15.000We have a hearing on March the 14th, which basically is a repeat of what I did last week without the leg chains because it'll be a Zoom hearing with a magistrate in D.C.
00:32:27.000We did this hearing I did here in Dallas was what they call an out-of-district hearing or arraignment or whatever the rule is.
00:32:35.000There's too many things that the lawyers tell me that I can't keep up with.
00:32:38.000But this is basically a repeat of that.
00:32:42.000We'll see if there's any modification to my non-detention rules and restrictions that I'm operating under right now.
00:32:52.000And then the real work begins because we'll find out who our judge is.
00:32:56.000The judge, who that judge is, will be a big and major factor into what our strategy will be going forward.
00:33:03.000But I can, you know, I don't mind saying because I've been very open about this.
00:33:07.000We're going to take, we're going to go to the heart of this before, long before we ever get to trial.
00:33:13.000We're going to try this case in the court of public opinion long before it ever hits a courtroom.
00:33:20.000And then we're going to start, you know, we're going to start burying them in motions regarding change of venue.
00:33:25.000We're going to bury them in motions regarding selective prosecution and many, many more.
00:33:31.000And I don't mind saying those first two because I know those two are coming, but there will be more than that as well.
00:33:37.000Steve, we applaud you for your resolve.