00:01:24.000So this morning, I put a picture of my locals account of me.
00:01:28.000You know, I know I have this speech today, and I got a dinner tonight with a local politician about some stuff that, you know, it's Sunday, like I should have this day off, but I'm here with you.
00:01:37.000And so this morning I said to Paula, like, it's 95 degrees in Florida.
00:01:42.000I said, let's go downstairs, do a full body workout.
00:01:49.000And then I said, I'm going to jump in 190-degree sauna afterwards for about 10 minutes before this speech.
00:01:54.000And so I put a picture up on locals, and I'm like, you want to see what pain looks like?
00:01:57.000I said, if you don't go through this suffering and this suck all the time, you're never going to learn to adore the moments of joy and success.
00:02:04.000You have that just trigger bullshit stuff.
00:02:38.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:24.000I was his aide, and I traveled with him full-time the first year of the administration and the last year of the administration and in 2016.
00:05:39.000Technically, he's in charge of the executive branch.
00:05:41.000But because the bureaucracy has gotten so big, things don't move quite like that.
00:05:46.000Okay, so let's go through some examples.
00:05:48.000Give one example that stands out where the president wanted to do something, you wanted to do something, but that thing did not get done or was slow walked or it just got changed.
00:05:57.000Well, you could talk about one that repeatedly happened, which actually Biden ended up doing, although as Bill Maher said, he didn't quite stick the landing, which was withdrawing from Afghanistan.
00:07:14.000And I want to get into just kind of some of the more fun details about Trump and how he is and all that, but let's just kind of focus on this here.
00:07:20.000So at what point did you realize, oh my gosh, personnel is policy, where there's this mass leviathan and Trump is like a temporary occupant who's actually been held hostage by people that hate him?
00:07:31.000I think within the first few months in the White House in 2017, it was pretty obvious.
00:07:37.000Before that, I don't think any conservative knew what the personnel office was.
00:07:40.000I think now it's becoming a mainstream PPO and just how much authority and power it has and how you need to have someone good in charge of that.
00:07:48.000I think the next administration should have on yesterday's get who you had on yesterday, should have him in charge of it.
00:08:37.000But, you know, there's people that are good messengers, but they're not good executors.
00:08:42.000And I think finding the people that can actually get the work done more than go on Fox and say the good talking point is probably most helpful.
00:08:50.000So zero again on the Afghanistan thing.
00:08:52.000Is it true that Trump would give the order and then there would be a pre-planned meeting of like Tillerson, Pence, and they were waiting for Trump in a room and they had wargamed the conversation.
00:10:06.000And there was kind of this constant theme of like, let's just talk about one issue that Trump's going to have to overcome, which is leaking.
00:10:14.000I mean, that was so widespread, leaking of phone calls.
00:10:19.000We don't get many leaks out of the Biden White House at all.
00:10:21.000Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with the media as well and a lot to do with the inaction.
00:10:26.000You know, the Biden White House, there's probably not a whole lot going on as there was in the Trump White House because the machine, the bureaucracy is left-wing.
00:14:22.000I'm sure the guy who does the landscaping or the, you know, the chef of the White House, I'm sure they all want him back because he's such a good person to work for.
00:14:31.000But talk about like the average day, the pace.
00:14:33.000I mean, being around, when I'm around him, I'm like, I can only take like five or six hours before I'm like, I need a break.
00:14:41.000I mean, what would days for you look like, let alone his schedule?
00:14:45.000You know, every night, me and his executive assistant would be hoping that he would call it a day just so we could go home and we'd be able to get away from it.
00:16:28.000But then on what would be considered a day off, it would still be work, but he'd be doing that from his phone, from his residence, from wherever he was.
00:17:18.000There were times when we would walk up, you know, at night from the Oval Office back to the residence and we're just staring out at the south lawn of the White House.
00:17:24.000And he'd be like, can you believe this?
00:20:35.000I think early on he had a lot of success just because the momentum, even though maybe, like you were saying, with Congress, we should have done that or this with the executive stuff.
00:20:44.000I think early on, maybe the travel van, but he had some success.
00:20:48.000Another would be one you mentioned with James was like moving the embassy, you know, things that people were fighting him on, but that ultimately they caved.
00:23:14.000These are like really cool people that are MAGA professors and entrepreneurs that like spent their time filling out stuff and like no one ever read their documents.
00:23:21.000No, I don't think one person was hired off of that website.
00:23:24.000However, now, as you mentioned, with Project 2025 at Heritage and whatever the official transition will be for the Republican nominee, which looks like it will be Trump, they're doing the work now.
00:23:50.000Instead of relying on a lot of the establishment people that aren't aligned, even though they might be good people, we're going to have a short timeframe to really just hit the ground running and we need to start doing the work now.
00:24:02.000Yeah, and so it goes both ways, though, right?
00:24:04.000Because there was somebody in the White House that I won't say, we'll talk about it privately.
00:24:07.000You probably know who I'm talking about, that largely agreed with Trump, but had some differences of opinion.
00:24:12.000But it wasn't as much an ideological thing.
00:24:13.000It was what you mentioned earlier, a competency thing.
00:24:15.000Because sometimes somebody would be all on board with Trump on the agenda, but they would just be like showing up to work late and not present well and be sloppy and slovenly and drunk and say things to girls.
00:24:55.000Our people can take a page out of that book.
00:24:57.000Hopefully the coaching they're going to do at Heritage and also just, you know, James or whoever's going to train these people before they enter the administration.
00:25:05.000They can give them some pointers, how to act, how to get things done.
00:25:09.000And also, yeah, just treat people with respect.
00:25:24.000What McKinsey is best at is having like well-tailored, presentable, late-20-somethings with every possible criteria and degree, but they also hate the country.
00:25:53.000His worldview is not aligned with an America first worldview.
00:25:57.000So getting our people that are aligned and then getting them presentable and competent and ready to work, it's going to be a lot of work, but luckily we have a head start this time and we have good networks of people.
00:26:09.000And we also have people that were junior that we saw actually doing work that can now take on more senior roles because it's five years later.
00:26:21.000So talk about some of the other lessons that you have from the time in the Trump White House that you think things we could have done better.
00:26:51.000You know, he had a great, a great take on COVID, obviously, but he brought in people.
00:26:57.000He tried to, you know, change the narrative a bit, give a different perspective on it.
00:27:02.000Couldn't make any headway, unfortunately.
00:27:04.000So it's getting people that are more aligned just from the get-go.
00:27:08.000So you don't run into that situation like we had with COVID.
00:27:13.000It's actually like painful to even think about that stuff, but it all goes back to just, yeah, who's in charge and if they're empowered by the president or not.
00:29:11.000But it's all those people that weren't aligned with Trump at all coming to tell him, here's how all of this works.
00:29:18.000I think at first he probably bought into some of that, but then as the story develops, we realize they're not working in his interest or America's interest.
00:29:28.000Well, and President Trump's instincts were right.
00:29:31.000He's tweeted out that the FBI is spying on me and all this.
00:29:34.000Senator Chuck Ushumer goes on Rachel Maddow's show and says the intel agencies have six ways of Sunday to get back at you.
00:30:51.000So I want to talk more about after the break, kind of build this out.
00:30:55.000But I think this is so important because, you know, President Trump, if he wins the nomination, he's going to need to give people some assurances that we're not going to have more Deborah Burks or Anthony Fauci in the White House.
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00:32:24.000Okay, so the app is called the right stuff, date right stuff.
00:32:28.000And Johnny in the break was like, it's mostly girls.
00:32:50.000I just mean our marketing, like we try to attract girls onto it because we want to get them on first and then we think the guys will follow.
00:33:10.000And if you don't believe me, I'm going out with a new one every day, a part of a 50-first date series, and I'm meeting them all on the app.
00:35:43.000You have these like simultaneous complaints that you have hookup culture going galore and yet people are super prude and don't want to date.
00:36:13.000I think dating apps are a good tool to use.
00:36:16.000And I'm not just saying that because I started one.
00:36:19.000Because you have things like social media where people have access to millions of people and they're just constantly sending messages and then go on to the next girl or the next guy.
00:36:43.000So, but yeah, let me just kind of closing.
00:36:46.000Biggest lesson you learned from this is like, what is the biggest concern you have then for young people?
00:36:51.000Like societal civilizational takeaway and concern?
00:36:54.000Is that people are waiting too long to get married?
00:36:57.000And that social media and other things are giving guys access to way too many girls and they need to be pairing up at a younger age rather than like I'm doing still in my 30s.
00:37:32.000I think they have this thing where like we're independent and we can do it on our own and we don't need a man, but it's not really about that.
00:37:36.000It's about like sharing your life with someone, building something together.
00:37:40.000And I think most who do that don't regret it and they're happy they did.
00:37:43.000John Mackenzie, everybody, founder of Date Right Stuff.