The Charlie Kirk Show - The War on the Courts with Kelly Shackelford and Garret Holdridge

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, fan of Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Kelly Shackelford joins us for a Supreme Court update.

00:00:05.000 We talk about two terrible hoaxes that resulted, one in death and a reputation smeared.

00:00:10.000 And we talk about the employee retention credit.

00:00:13.000 Our friends from COVID Tax Relief give us an update of how many of you have been able to get your money back.

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00:01:10.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:53.000 All right, joining us now is Garrett Holdridge, founding partner of Consumer Tax Advocate, covidtaxrelief.org.

00:01:59.000 That is covidtaxrelief.org.

00:02:03.000 Garrett, welcome to the program.

00:02:05.000 Tell us the good news of how our audience is doing, getting their money back from the government with the ERC.

00:02:12.000 Tell us about it.

00:02:13.000 Absolutely.

00:02:14.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:02:15.000 We're so excited to be a part of the show.

00:02:17.000 By the way, love watching you.

00:02:19.000 We have you on actually throughout the office every single morning.

00:02:22.000 Very kind.

00:02:24.000 Excited to be on the show here.

00:02:26.000 Wanted to share the news.

00:02:27.000 Last time that we were on your show here, we had 201 businesses, your listeners, that had either called in or filled out a form on covidtaxrelief.org.

00:02:39.000 We have secured $24 million so far for those businesses.

00:02:44.000 That was last time that we were on the show.

00:02:47.000 As of today, we are now at 303 businesses for a total of $32 million.

00:02:55.000 It's awesome.

00:02:56.000 Well, that's amazing.

00:02:57.000 And so just re-explain it to our audience.

00:03:00.000 Again, it's covidtaxrelief.org.

00:03:02.000 These are for business owners, entrepreneurs that stayed open during the pandemic.

00:03:05.000 Most people don't even know that this money has been allocated by Congress.

00:03:08.000 Again, I'm not a fan of all this money that's been allocated, but hey, if it's there, do your thing, covidtaxrelief.org.

00:03:14.000 Tell us about the details of the law.

00:03:18.000 Yeah, so the ERC program or the employee retention credit, it's for businesses who kept their doors open or tried to keep their doors open during the pandemic, meaning that maybe they couldn't make it through the whole thing.

00:03:30.000 But they were paying W-2 employees throughout the time that they were open.

00:03:35.000 It's a reward, basically, for these companies having done that.

00:03:40.000 Any amount of employees over two W-2 employees qualifies, and it's very simple here within our company.

00:03:48.000 The law is about 200 pages long, as you could imagine.

00:03:52.000 We have built software that parallels the IRS guidelines.

00:03:56.000 And what that means is you go to covidtaxrelief.org.

00:04:00.000 You're going to enter in your information.

00:04:02.000 It's going to take you two minutes on there.

00:04:04.000 We're going to give you a call and we're going to walk you through a eight to 10 minute questionnaire.

00:04:08.000 That questionnaire will be exactly what the IRS guidelines are.

00:04:13.000 And it's going to let you know exactly what your business would qualify for.

00:04:18.000 There's no commitment.

00:04:19.000 There's no personal sensitive information that we ask for at all.

00:04:23.000 And we don't ask for any type of payment at all.

00:04:26.000 So we want to make sure that you guys can just get to the website, figure out if the found money qualifies for your business, take advantage of it.

00:04:35.000 And you know what, Charlie?

00:04:36.000 We always tell a lot of our businesses that come through the doors in this uncertain time.

00:04:42.000 Banks are failing.

00:04:43.000 I just was listening to your show.

00:04:44.000 It's unbelievable.

00:04:46.000 This is a lifeline for so many businesses.

00:04:48.000 It's not going to last forever.

00:04:50.000 It's limited.

00:04:51.000 It's the last COVID stimulus package.

00:04:53.000 It's there.

00:04:54.000 You owe it to yourself.

00:04:56.000 I tell these businesses, you owe it to your employees.

00:04:58.000 It's not a grant and it's not a loan.

00:05:01.000 So you could use it as distribution.

00:05:03.000 You could donate it to the community or church if you don't need the money, which is hard to say at this point, but it's there for you.

00:05:09.000 And I think that everybody should be taking advantage of it.

00:05:13.000 And thanks to your audience, we've been really able to get the word out.

00:05:16.000 And thanks to you allowing us to come on the show.

00:05:19.000 It's helped you.

00:05:20.000 No, I believe in it.

00:05:21.000 And I don't, again, I'm not, I wish Congress wouldn't have passed it, but we have to live in reality.

00:05:26.000 And it's there for people that are hardworking Americans that say, hey, you know, I kept my business open and my tax, my receipts went down.

00:05:34.000 And what is there?

00:05:36.000 And so we've had over 303 businesses actually get ERC money.

00:05:40.000 And you said there's over 876 leads that have been generated at covidtaxrelief.org.

00:05:46.000 Our audience is right up there at the top.

00:05:48.000 Is that right?

00:05:49.000 Absolutely.

00:05:50.000 Absolutely it is.

00:05:51.000 I was telling your team prior to this, my goodness, when our team sees a Charlie Kirk lead per se come through, they are so excited to speak to these people.

00:06:01.000 Your audience, they've said has just been so kind, so cool, so awesome.

00:06:05.000 And these are the words that we get back from our staff.

00:06:08.000 So it's nice to hear it.

00:06:09.000 Your audience responds amazingly, and we've been helping out a ton of them.

00:06:13.000 And of the 876 that have come through that have yet to receive funds, it's coming.

00:06:18.000 The numbers, I'm sure the next time we're on your show will be much higher.

00:06:22.000 So it's a process, but it is one that we've expired.

00:06:26.000 When does the ERC expire?

00:06:29.000 Yeah, it expires in 2025, April 15th of 2025.

00:06:35.000 And that is if it goes the entire time, right?

00:06:38.000 Politicians, as we know, they kind of do as they choose.

00:06:41.000 The legislation could change, whatever the case is.

00:06:44.000 But as of right now, it's April 15th, 2025.

00:06:47.000 So we have a little bit of time left.

00:06:49.000 I encourage everybody to get it done, ASAP, so that in case any changes happen within this election or whatever it may be, you're secured.

00:06:57.000 The money's in your hands.

00:06:58.000 It's already allocated.

00:07:00.000 Take it.

00:07:01.000 And once the money runs out, money runs out, right?

00:07:04.000 And so you got to get there, COVIDtaxRelief.org.

00:07:08.000 And so, Garrett, just in closing here, what kind of businesses?

00:07:11.000 I mean, these are just mom and pops to entrepreneurs, manufacturing restaurants.

00:07:15.000 Give us a little bit of a window into the types of businesses you're helping in our audience.

00:07:20.000 You hit the nail right on the head.

00:07:21.000 All the above, really.

00:07:23.000 We've helped trucking companies.

00:07:24.000 We've helped private schools.

00:07:26.000 We've helped the private hospital and everything in between.

00:07:30.000 The business owners typically on average have eight employees that come through our door.

00:07:35.000 We've helped companies that have upwards of 400 employees.

00:07:38.000 But it's really the sweet spot to get somebody in that just skated by COVID, four or five employees, and to inject $100,000, $150,000 worth of capital into their business in this type of an economy is huge.

00:07:52.000 And we love helping those type of businesses.

00:07:55.000 I love it.

00:07:55.000 It's covidtaxrelief.org.

00:07:57.000 And look, can you just one last time tell them, you guys just take a percentage of what you're able to get back?

00:08:02.000 No upfront fees, none of that stuff.

00:08:03.000 Tell us about that, covidtaxrelief.org.

00:08:06.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:08:07.000 So once we figure out what you're qualified for, we will not charge you a dime until the money is in your hands, meaning that we will do all the work.

00:08:16.000 We will go through all the legislation for you.

00:08:18.000 We'll make this as simple as possible.

00:08:20.000 At the very end of the process, when the checks are in your hand, our firm will send you an invoice here that would be a 15% commission to our company to be upfront and transparent.

00:08:29.000 That's what that would look like.

00:08:30.000 Very good.

00:08:31.000 All right, Derek, thank you.

00:08:32.000 Everyone, check it out, covidtaxrelief.org.

00:08:34.000 Thanks so much.

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00:09:16.000 Okay, several stories I want to get to here, and we have some really exciting guests coming up later in the hour.

00:09:21.000 I want to play a clip from my friend, Vivek Ramaswamy, debating Chuck Todd on gender.

00:09:28.000 He missed one of the great comebacks.

00:09:30.000 It was right there.

00:09:30.000 He could have done it.

00:09:32.000 But play cut eight, please.

00:09:34.000 But below the age of 18, I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that we won't allow genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers.

00:09:40.000 You're calling it that transition.

00:09:42.000 But how do you know it's that?

00:09:43.000 Again, how do you know?

00:09:44.000 Are you confident that you know that gender is as binary as you're describing it?

00:09:51.000 Are you confident that it isn't a spectrum?

00:09:52.000 I am.

00:09:53.000 Do you know this as a scientist?

00:09:54.000 Well, there's two X chromosomes if you're a woman, an X and a Y. 0.94

00:09:57.000 That means a lot of scientific research out there.

00:10:00.000 There's a lot of scientific research out there that says gender is a spectrum.

00:10:03.000 Chuck, I respectfully disagree.

00:10:05.000 Gender dysphoria for most of our history, all the way through the DSM-5, has been characterized as a mental health disorder.

00:10:11.000 And I don't think it's compassionate to affirm that.

00:10:13.000 I think that's cruelty.

00:10:16.000 Look, Vivek should have just said, listen, you don't have to be a meteorologist to see that it's raining.

00:10:25.000 It would have been a good comeback.

00:10:26.000 His comeback was great.

00:10:26.000 Vivek did wonderful, though.

00:10:28.000 Lots of scientific research.

00:10:29.000 And no, there isn't.

00:10:30.000 No, no, there's scientific pontification.

00:10:34.000 There's scientific conjecture of these radical academics.

00:10:41.000 And again, he said, how can you know for certain?

00:10:43.000 And Vivek could have leaned in.

00:10:44.000 Chuck, can you tell me what a woman is? 0.99

00:10:46.000 Because until you can tell me what a woman is, I ain't going to play your silly little game. 1.00

00:10:50.000 XX, X, Y, end of story. 0.99

00:10:54.000 And you wonder why Hispanics are becoming Republican. 0.81

00:10:58.000 They look at that and they say, I don't know what that is, but that is some sort of weird pagan cult calling themselves the Democrat Party.

00:11:06.000 I want to play Cut 16.

00:11:07.000 Elon Musk says it's bizarre that we've come to this point where free speech used to be a liberal value, and yet we see from the left a desire to censor.

00:11:14.000 Play cut 16.

00:11:17.000 It's bizarre that we've come to this point where, like, free speech used to be a left or liberal value, and yet we see from, you know, the in quotes left, a desire to actually censor.

00:11:32.000 That seems crazy.

00:11:33.000 I mean, I think we should be extremely concerned about anything that undermines the First Amendment.

00:11:41.000 There's a reason for the First Amendment.

00:11:42.000 The First Amendment is because people came from countries where they could not speak freely and where saying certain things would get you thrown into prison. 1.00

00:11:52.000 And they were like, well, we don't want that here.

00:11:54.000 Joining us now is Kelly Shackelford.

00:11:56.000 You guys can check out the very important organization, firstliberty.org.

00:12:00.000 Kelly, welcome to the program.

00:12:02.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:12:03.000 Happy to be on. 0.92

00:12:04.000 So, Kelly, let's just riff a second on the First Amendment.

00:12:08.000 The attack on speech is significant.

00:12:10.000 Elon Musk is coming on the right side talking about freedom of discourse and dialogue.

00:12:14.000 Just any thoughts off the top on that short little riff that you had?

00:12:19.000 You know, it's rare to see what we've been seeing in the last maybe, I don't know, it's five years, however many years.

00:12:26.000 I mean, the one thing that all Americans agreed upon was that whether you agree with somebody's speech or not, we don't censor other people's speech.

00:12:36.000 But obviously, as this sort of Marxist approach has begun to seep into our country, we've got all these people, including young people, who don't think you should protect all free speech.

00:12:48.000 That goes against our country as great as almost anything I can think of.

00:12:53.000 Freedom of religion, freedom of speech are kind of the cornerstone of this country.

00:12:59.000 And it's under attack.

00:13:00.000 And we're seeing our courts under attack.

00:13:02.000 We're seeing a lot of things we've never seen right now by people who want to somewhat destroy our country and what it's all about.

00:13:11.000 It certainly feels that way.

00:13:12.000 So I want to get into the story here.

00:13:14.000 Ted Cruz decries political smear job against Clarence Thomas for ethics questions.

00:13:20.000 Kelly, your thoughts?

00:13:23.000 Well, what's been happening is, you know, they started, the left started with this extreme attempt to court pack to add four justices to the Supreme Court.

00:13:33.000 This is the institution they do not totally control.

00:13:36.000 They control about everything else.

00:13:38.000 That's exactly right.

00:13:39.000 And so they can't stand it.

00:13:41.000 So the court packing was first, which would have destroyed not only the courts, it would have destroyed our country.

00:13:47.000 It's how most countries are lost.

00:13:49.000 And so that didn't succeed.

00:13:52.000 And so their new approach, and there's been a bunch of articles on this, Charlie.

00:13:56.000 They just had 30 of the leading progressive groups meet.

00:13:59.000 This was in the Washington Post to figure out how they're going to change the courts.

00:14:03.000 And what they've been doing recently is they want to criticize the court.

00:14:08.000 They want to say they're unethical with the most baseless arguments you've ever seen.

00:14:14.000 But the press just reads the headlines.

00:14:16.000 And I saw a poll that they've already got 62% of the country thinking that the court only issues decisions based upon its politics.

00:14:25.000 And so this ethical charge against Thomas is just bizarre.

00:14:29.000 There have been rules about what justices have to report, and they just changed the rules recently to allow for more reporting.

00:14:39.000 What they're doing is they're attacking Justice Thomas because in the past, before the rule changed, he didn't report things that he didn't have to report.

00:14:50.000 And so it's just bizarre.

00:14:52.000 There's another one in the last few days attacking Justice Gorsuch because he actually taught some at a law school, the Scalia Law School.

00:15:03.000 And by the way, you look at any of these things, Charlie, and you apply these to the liberal justices.

00:15:09.000 It's all there too.

00:15:10.000 But they don't talk about that.

00:15:12.000 It's not in any of the reports.

00:15:14.000 One of the attacks on Justice Thomas was that in one of his reports, he reported a defunct group as receiving, as his wife receiving, income from.

00:15:26.000 And they made it seem like there's some weird, you know, horrible, unethical thing.

00:15:31.000 It just turned out they changed the name of the group from one year to the next.

00:15:35.000 And so we're seeing, I could go through a litany.

00:15:38.000 And they don't want to actually go through the potential ethics violations of Kagan or Sotomayor, right?

00:15:44.000 This is directed just on the conservatives on the court.

00:15:48.000 And it is going to be an interesting issue because the Senate says, hey, Supreme Court, listen to us.

00:15:52.000 And they just are like, no, no.

00:15:55.000 And I'm actually pleased to see all nine justices do this because, look, we don't want justices above the law.

00:16:01.000 At the same time, we do not want a legislative body to be able to tell the Supreme Court what to do.

00:16:07.000 That's never been part of the founders' intent.

00:16:09.000 Kelly, I'm hearing in kind of SCOTUS blog and kind of in the inside community, also in some op-eds, that the Chevron deference, the Chevron doctrine, might be up and might actually be repealed.

00:16:23.000 This is kind of a nerdy, wonky thing, but it's actually really important towards holding the administrative state accountable.

00:16:31.000 Explain, please.

00:16:34.000 This is a huge deal.

00:16:36.000 If it's what we think it is, and they're about to throw out the Chevron deference approach, what it is is for years, and even the conservatives went along with this for a while and made, I think they eventually realized that was a mistake.

00:16:53.000 But what it says is that, look, if you've got one of these unelected bureaucrats from these agencies or administrative state, that if they interpret a rule in a certain way, then unless it's just really unreasonable, the court's not allowed to mess with it.

00:17:11.000 Well, I mean, that just gives them all this power to ruin people's lives and their businesses and everything else.

00:17:20.000 And it's not something that Congress did.

00:17:23.000 And all of a sudden, the court is not allowed to fix it.

00:17:26.000 And it has created all this power in these unelected bureaucrats.

00:17:32.000 And again, they've realized since this is not right.

00:17:35.000 There's a separation of powers that make sense.

00:17:37.000 The court is not going to disagree with Congress on a piece of legislation.

00:17:41.000 They got to, you know, there's some deference there, but not to unelected bureaucrats.

00:17:47.000 And what they've done is they've created this powerful administrative state as a result.

00:17:52.000 And so when this gets flipped, which I think it will next term, we'll see.

00:17:56.000 I mean, this is a major, major return of power to the people and away from these government bureaucrats.

00:18:04.000 So, and I would tell people, this is like, you know, a lot of people get frustrated because the court's not doing what it wants to do, you know, really quickly or whatever.

00:18:12.000 These are major things that the court's doing.

00:18:15.000 I mean, you know, we have a case that's going to be decided in later June that I think is going to be a huge change on religious freedom in the workplace.

00:18:23.000 We want some major.

00:18:25.000 Tell us about that.

00:18:27.000 What it is, is the quick summary is we've had a protection in the law for 50 years that is supposed to protect religious freedom in the workplace.

00:18:36.000 But 46 years ago, a liberal Supreme Court just completely redefined the words in the statute in a way that's not honest.

00:18:45.000 And the court all admitted in our oral argument a couple of weeks ago that it wasn't honest.

00:18:51.000 And so they're about to restore a proper protection for people in the workplace.

00:18:57.000 And think of what's going on all over the country because we're seeing these cases.

00:19:00.000 We're getting lots of them.

00:19:02.000 People are coming into these woke corporations.

00:19:04.000 They've been there for 30 years.

00:19:05.000 They've done great work.

00:19:07.000 Now they're being called into the DEI office and told, you either sign this, which violates your faith, or you're fired.

00:19:15.000 And they're getting fired.

00:19:16.000 Well, this will provide protection for every person of faith who has a different belief than the new woke beliefs to be able to stand on those beliefs.

00:19:26.000 So the case is called Groff versus United States Postal Service.

00:19:31.000 It's about a guy wanting to take a Sabbath day, but the implications are much bigger because it's about the definition of the protection we give people on religious freedom in the workplace.

00:19:42.000 And so think of that.

00:19:43.000 Think of the Second Amendment case that came down this summer, the Coach Kennedy case about religious freedom.

00:19:49.000 Huge victory.

00:19:50.000 Massive victory.

00:19:51.000 And now, now, did the Kennedy case reverse Lemon?

00:19:53.000 Was that the Kennedy case?

00:19:55.000 Yes.

00:19:55.000 Lemon is the precedent that's been there for 50 years that has created all this hostility to religion that we've seen our whole lives, or even those of us who are older, our whole lives has been going on for 50, 60 years.

00:20:10.000 And, you know, we asked them to reverse that.

00:20:13.000 And it had been cited over 7,000 times, Charlie, in the last 50 years.

00:20:18.000 Everything you've seen that has been sort of... government hostility to religion has been linked back to that lemon case.

00:20:25.000 They just threw it out last summer.

00:20:28.000 And so everything just flipped, literally.

00:20:30.000 I mean, everywhere that crosses went down, they come back up.

00:20:33.000 Everywhere that menorahs were banned around Hanukkah, they come back up.

00:20:38.000 Everywhere the Ten Commandments were put in closets, they come back out.

00:20:43.000 You know, they used to freak out because there was religion around a school.

00:20:48.000 And you know what?

00:20:50.000 Not anymore.

00:20:51.000 I mean, people have religious freedom as part of our country.

00:20:54.000 So this is going to be a major shift that people are just going to start to see because they don't, 50 years of case law just got changed.

00:21:01.000 So I just want people to remember when they think about the court, why is the left on such a jihad against the court?

00:21:09.000 It's because they're really taking us back to our foundations as a country constitutionally.

00:21:15.000 The Second Amendment and the New York case that they upheld last summer, the coach, everybody's so focused on Roby Wade, they've missed all these other things.

00:21:25.000 And we're about to see Chevron deference, which is going to return all this power to the people and away from these unelected bureaucrats.

00:21:32.000 So just realize the court is doing some major work and they're focusing on the Constitution, not the evolving Constitution that's this living document that they just make things up.

00:21:44.000 That's what we've had in the past.

00:21:46.000 They're actually going to what does it say?

00:21:48.000 What did the founders put in place?

00:21:50.000 And they're enforcing that.

00:21:52.000 And it's making a big change.

00:21:55.000 And it's really causing the left to want to do everything in their power to delegitimize our courts and possibly even really destroy our courts and to put all the power into politics.

00:22:07.000 Kelly, I think you said it perfectly.

00:22:09.000 This is one of the only institutions the Marxists don't control.

00:22:13.000 And there are a lot of reasons for that.

00:22:15.000 Donald Trump deserves a lot of credit for doing what he said he's going to do and putting good judges and getting those judges confirmed.

00:22:23.000 And so can you add a little bit more depth to this, Kelly?

00:22:27.000 Because you had a great presentation in Houston.

00:22:30.000 I loved the event together.

00:22:32.000 But you said we're now living through one of the most exciting moments of religious liberty.

00:22:36.000 We have a lot of pastors that watch this show.

00:22:39.000 We have a lot of churchgoers that watch this show.

00:22:42.000 Just really broaden it even more of this moment, the excitement that we should be feeling where we're having religious liberty momentum that wouldn't have been unheard of 20 years ago.

00:22:54.000 Yeah, I've been doing this, all religious liberty cases for 34 years.

00:22:58.000 And what we're living through now is not even just historic.

00:23:01.000 It's never happened.

00:23:05.000 Going back to Lemon, just to help people understand, our founders didn't want there to be a nationally established church that we all had to support.

00:23:13.000 So there is a clause, one of the religion clauses, to make sure that doesn't happen.

00:23:18.000 But this court 50 years ago said, no, it means a lot more than that.

00:23:22.000 It means separation of church and state. 0.76

00:23:23.000 So wherever government is, religion can't be. 0.97

00:23:26.000 Well, government's everywhere.

00:23:28.000 It means that if you're offended by religion, you can bring a lawsuit.

00:23:32.000 Well, you can't bring lawsuits because you're offended.

00:23:35.000 But our whole lives, the last 50 or 60 years, you could only against religion.

00:23:40.000 And so we've seen all these attacks on nativity scenes at Christmas and you name it, right?

00:23:45.000 Why?

00:23:46.000 Because any of these things were in the Constitution?

00:23:49.000 Because of the Lemon case.

00:23:51.000 And, you know, there are about 7,000 to 8,000 requests a year for the court to take the case.

00:23:57.000 They took 67 last year. 0.91

00:24:01.000 If my goal in life had been for them to take two of my cases sometime in my life, that would be a really stupid goal because it does not happen.

00:24:08.000 Well, they didn't just take two of our cases.

00:24:10.000 We won two landmark religious liberty cases within six days of each other.

00:24:15.000 And we just argued another one two weeks ago that's going to be probably a change of a 46-year-old precedent that's been crushing religious freedom.

00:24:25.000 So, what I said, and it's just objectively true.

00:24:28.000 Every American alive right now has more religious freedom than they've ever had in their lifetime.

00:24:35.000 And we're just at the beginning of this.

00:24:37.000 This is like nothing we've ever seen.

00:24:40.000 And now it's up to people to take the freedom they have and begin to live it out.

00:24:45.000 And so every community in the country now can go, why are we having a prayer at our school board meeting?

00:24:52.000 Because it's totally allowed.

00:24:55.000 And so, I mean, they ought to force the city council to vote on whether they want prayer if they're not having prayer.

00:25:01.000 And let's put people on there who believe in a country with religious freedom and that we don't, religion is not some new pornography that can't be practiced in public.

00:25:11.000 All these things can change now.

00:25:14.000 Texas is on its way to passing a new law that's going to put a 10 commandments in every classroom to help remind people the foundation of our Western civilization that they feel like now, oh, you can't talk about it.

00:25:30.000 You can't talk about these parts of our history that are religious.

00:25:33.000 Well, that's all going to change.

00:25:34.000 And so I just want people to be empowered because a lot of times, Charlie, it's like we're always on the defensive.

00:25:41.000 We're always reacting.

00:25:42.000 We've won this.

00:25:44.000 We won the case.

00:25:45.000 Lemon is over.

00:25:46.000 It was repealed at the Supreme Court in the Coach Kennedy case.

00:25:51.000 People now, it's like the freedom is there.

00:25:54.000 God blew a hole open in the wall.

00:25:56.000 And now it's just a matter of people going into their own community and taking the ground that they've been given.

00:26:01.000 Amen.

00:26:02.000 And they can all check it out at firstliberty.org, right, Kelly?

00:26:04.000 Firstliberty.org?

00:26:06.000 Absolutely.

00:26:07.000 You guys have some exciting petitions as well.

00:26:09.000 And, you know, Kelly, I think we're in such an amazing thing.

00:26:13.000 Tell us about the Alaska Airlines case, by the way.

00:26:17.000 Alaska Airlines is an example of the kind of really horrible stuff that's going on to people around the country.

00:26:22.000 Alaska Airlines sent out a message to all their employees saying there's this thing called the Equality Act.

00:26:32.000 And I know you know what that is, which it's basically the most extreme LGBT federal law you can imagine.

00:26:39.000 It goes into every federal statute and says that whenever there's an LGBT issue, you strip away religious freedom from everybody.

00:26:47.000 And it's never going to pass.

00:26:48.000 It's not going to pass.

00:26:49.000 It doesn't have the votes to pass.

00:26:50.000 But Alaska thought it was great.

00:26:52.000 And they sent it out.

00:26:54.000 And they told their employees, we love your feedback.

00:26:57.000 Well, two of the flight attendants sent in and said, you know, I have real concerns about this because this would take away religious freedom, maybe even for my church or other organizations.

00:27:06.000 And so what did Alaska Airlines do?

00:27:09.000 They fired both of them.

00:27:12.000 And so this is a great example of this whole DEI approach where we want your opinions unless they're Christian opinions and then you're fired. 0.94

00:27:21.000 Well, again, that is illegal.

00:27:24.000 There are federal laws on religious freedom in the workplace, and we are going after Alaska Airlines.

00:27:29.000 And our goal isn't just to win for these two flight attendants, which certainly that's a huge goal.

00:27:34.000 We want to leave a mark on these corporations so that they know you don't do this to people in this country.

00:27:41.000 And so that litigation is ongoing.

00:27:43.000 And there's a bunch others just like it.

00:27:46.000 And again, this case we argued two weeks ago at the Supreme Court, which will probably be handed down in June, could really increase the protection for religious freedom in the workplace and allow even more people to have protection from this type of abuse.

00:28:02.000 Kelly, God bless you.

00:28:03.000 Firstliberty.org.

00:28:04.000 You guys do great work.

00:28:05.000 I'm 100% behind you.

00:28:06.000 Kelly, thanks so much.

00:28:07.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:29:15.000 Lawrenceville School in New Jersey is now admitting that it had fallen tragically short in its obligation to protect a young man, Jack Reed, who killed himself.

00:29:26.000 Again, if our leaders were serious about problems happening in our country, they'd be talking about why are so many young people killing themselves?

00:29:32.000 Now they're more worried about Ukraine and trans stuff.

00:29:36.000 The school has acknowledged that bullying and unkind behavior and actions taken or not taken by the school likely contributed to Jack's death.

00:29:43.000 But it wasn't just bullying.

00:29:45.000 No, no, no, no.

00:29:47.000 It's more than that.

00:29:48.000 This is the New York Times, by the way.

00:29:49.000 He committed suicide about a year ago.

00:29:51.000 And I mean, this is just so sad.

00:29:52.000 The details make you sick to your stomach.

00:29:55.000 He tucked a Bible into his gym shorts and a note into his pocket directing his parents to a Google document explaining his feelings of despair.

00:30:02.000 It's just like hard to even say those words.

00:30:05.000 Committed suicide because here's why.

00:30:08.000 During a secret Santa gift exchange among his classmates, Jack was given a rape whistle together with a book of How to Make Friends.

00:30:14.000 The school secretly investigated these rumors, determined they were completely false, but took no action at all to prevent the bullying or the lies being told because there were made-up rumors that he was a campus rapist.

00:30:28.000 The school, because he's obviously a white male, why would they go out of their way to try to exonerate him?

00:30:34.000 They drugged their feet and he killed himself in Lawrenceville, New Jersey.

00:30:40.000 I mean, a lawsuit could probably destroy the school.

00:30:43.000 I hope it does.

00:30:44.000 I hope his parents ask for a billion dollars and raid the endowment. 0.95

00:30:49.000 If you tell lies from the right side of politics, you are nearly immune, especially against white people. 0.58

00:30:58.000 There's a similar story from the University of Virginia, which thankfully I do not think includes anybody killing themselves, but you wouldn't be shocked if it did.

00:31:08.000 So a black BLM activist who looks like Job of the Hutt named Zianna Bryant falsely accused a white girl at the University of Virginia.

00:31:17.000 And again, I'm not trying to like trivialize the weight here. 1.00

00:31:20.000 This person's a disgusting person. 0.99

00:31:22.000 This person is a really nasty individual. 1.00

00:31:25.000 And let me tell you.

00:31:27.000 So she falsely accused a white UVA student named Morgan Bedtinger of wanting to run over BLM protesters while her car was surrounded by a mob at a BLM protest in the summer of 2020.

00:31:41.000 She was formerly sanctioned by UVA, expelled in because of it from the university, but two separate investigations concluded a year later that it never happened.

00:31:50.000 So, this white girl gets expelled from UVA because of a lie of an obese black person. 0.97

00:31:58.000 Ziana went on to have a successful career in glowing profiles in media outlets, while Morgan's life was completely destroyed, including her plan to attend law school.

00:32:08.000 This came six years after her father, a former police officer, died of cancer.

00:32:14.000 This black person gets away with the whole thing and destroys it on a total hoax. 1.00

00:32:19.000 Not to mention, in Stanford, there's another Stanford race hoax. 0.95

00:32:26.000 So, a year ago, you might remember, Stanford University investigates noose found on campus, on campus tree, as hate crime.

00:32:33.000 Remember that?

00:32:34.000 A year ago, it was on NPR and on the Associated Press.

00:32:38.000 Turns out the entire thing was a hoax.

00:32:42.000 Turns out there is nothing to it.

00:32:44.000 In fact, there were administrators at Stanford University that were just making stuff up.

00:32:55.000 You see, when you subsidize something, you get more of something. 0.98

00:33:01.000 We have a supply and demand problem with racism, but it just so happens the upside of being a victim of racism or being a victim of a white male rapist is very high. 0.96

00:33:13.000 So, they just make it up, Jussie Smollett style.

00:33:17.000 So, we have race hoax after race hoax, and it targets innocent young people that are never able to defend themselves. 0.55

00:33:24.000 And Jack Reed is dead because of it, killed himself.

00:33:29.000 UVA, they nearly destroyed her life, took years for her to get her record straight, and the black activist gets away with it. 0.99

00:33:40.000 This is only accelerating in its ferocity: the end of due process, the end of checks and balances, the complete erosion and deterioration of decent norms. 0.98

00:33:55.000 Wokeness elevates the most disgusting, dishonest people because wokeness itself is dishonest and disgusting.

00:34:04.000 In the simplest way, we now have ideology that is consistent with the people pushing the ideology. 0.99

00:34:12.000 When you have sick and disgusting ideology, you're gonna have sick and disgusting people, and that's what props it up.

00:34:17.000 And they have to fight fiercely for it because what other system would ever give these people money and status? 0.94

00:34:25.000 The answer is nothing, but they call it equity.

00:34:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:31.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:34:40.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 02, 2023

The War on the Courts with Kelly Shackelford and Garret Holdridge

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