The Charlie Kirk Show - May 23, 2025


The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill


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The House of Representatives passed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and now the Senate has to get to work on their version of the bill. Will they get on board with the House's plan or will they continue to fight against it?

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:01.000 Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000 Senator Roger Marshall and James O 'Keefe as we break down the latest of the big, beautiful bill.
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00:01:23.000 Okay, joining us now is Senator Roger Marshall.
00:01:25.000 Senator, thank you so much for taking the time.
00:01:27.000 So the big, beautiful bill passed last evening, and now you guys got to get to work.
00:01:32.000 What are you expecting?
00:01:34.000 What is the process?
00:01:35.000 And then let's get down into the particulars.
00:01:37.000 And I think our audience needs to learn that you guys can make changes to the bill, and then there's a process of reconciliation between the two chambers.
00:01:45.000 Is that correct?
00:01:46.000 Senator, please walk us through it.
00:01:47.000 Yeah, Charlie.
00:01:48.000 First of all, are you tired of winning?
00:01:50.000 I mean, my gosh, that clip that's going viral there with you, President Trump, a big win last night.
00:01:55.000 And just congratulations to him, as well as Speaker Mike Johnson.
00:01:59.000 President Trump is the best closer in the country.
00:02:02.000 So Mike Johnson gave us the best bill that he could get passed over there.
00:02:06.000 Think of the Senate as like a saucer.
00:02:08.000 And think of the House as a hot cup of coffee and it's spilling over.
00:02:12.000 The job of the Senate is to take that bill and make it better.
00:02:15.000 I think for us over here, What I'm looking at is, where can we save some more taxpayers' dollars?
00:02:21.000 Where are the opportunities to cut some spending?
00:02:23.000 What do we do with those SALT taxes?
00:02:25.000 So I think that's the big thrust over us here.
00:02:27.000 How can we make this bill better?
00:02:29.000 How can we deliver on President Trump's promises, no tax on tips, overtime, Social Security, make the Trump tax cuts permanent?
00:02:37.000 This bill has the potential to save an American family $1,000 a month.
00:02:42.000 So that's how important this bill is.
00:02:45.000 So what is the—again, I'm just catching—I'm getting cut off the speed here.
00:02:49.000 What was the final result of salt out of the House?
00:02:52.000 What did they finally vote on?
00:02:54.000 And what do you think its future would be in the Senate?
00:02:56.000 And just give our audience a quick reminder of what state and local tax deductions are.
00:03:01.000 Right.
00:03:02.000 So in these big blue states, they have high taxes, and they're able to deduct that from their federal taxes.
00:03:08.000 So this—what the House has done will still cost American taxpayers— $300 billion over the next 10 years.
00:03:16.000 So they're going to let people from these blue states write off up to $30,000 of their taxes, which will decrease revenue to the state.
00:03:24.000 So this feels like people from Kansas are subsidizing the- 100%.
00:03:29.000 I'm right there with you.
00:03:30.000 Sorry to interrupt you.
00:03:31.000 Keep going.
00:03:32.000 I think SALT is a scam that punishes great states like Kansas. 0.99
00:03:35.000 Please keep going.
00:03:36.000 It is that simple to the tune of $300 billion over 10 years.
00:03:41.000 So what else could we do with that $300 billion?
00:03:44.000 We could deliver the president's Golden Dome.
00:03:47.000 That would be one simple thing and more.
00:03:49.000 We would take that money and make Medicaid and Medicare even better.
00:03:54.000 There's just better ways to spend that money.
00:03:56.000 We can use it to secure the border, to help our military out, to give our troops more wages, all those types.
00:04:01.000 It's real money, $300 billion.
00:04:04.000 And so here's where people get a little confused.
00:04:07.000 How is it that a bill can pass the House and then change in the Senate?
00:04:11.000 And is it possible to now bring maybe the SALT deduction down to $10,000?
00:04:15.000 That would actually help us close the deficit a little bit.
00:04:18.000 And again, just to reinforce this, SALT is essentially saying, California, you can't run a good state.
00:04:25.000 New York, you can't run a good state.
00:04:26.000 Therefore, you have ridiculous pension problems and you have outrageous mass migration and the dumbest type of spending policies. 0.92
00:04:34.000 And we're going to now subsidize that.
00:04:37.000 Do you think we can maybe crawl it back to a $10,000 deduction, which would which would save hundreds of billions in So it's at $10,000 now, as I recall.
00:04:47.000 So STAL stands for state and local taxes.
00:04:50.000 So if your state and local taxes are high, the more motivated you are to try to write those off.
00:04:55.000 You know, most Kansas wouldn't have $10,000 of state and local taxes to write off.
00:05:01.000 But to answer your question, so the House passed a bill.
00:05:03.000 We could pass their bill exactly as it is.
00:05:05.000 And it's a good bill.
00:05:07.000 It's probably got 80, 90 percent of what I'd like to see in it.
00:05:09.000 But if the Senate makes any major changes, it'll have to go back to the House a second time.
00:05:14.000 And that's where the tricky part is, Charlie.
00:05:16.000 As much as you and I want to face this federal...
00:05:20.000 We also got to pass it and we don't want to lose the House.
00:05:23.000 So there's a dozen House members that I'm making that number up.
00:05:26.000 I'm not sure how many House members are that are really, really from these purple districts with high property taxes that this, you know, they may not get reelected.
00:05:35.000 They may not get reelected anyway.
00:05:37.000 But I can sure tell you, for damn sure I can tell you, that if we don't get some type of a good, big, beautiful bill out of here, none of them should get reelected.
00:05:44.000 I totally agree.
00:05:46.000 And so...
00:05:47.000 The other elements, let's just brag on some of the good stuff that people don't know about what's in the bill.
00:05:52.000 We are taxing remittances for the first time ever, which is a financial penalty for illegal immigration into the United States of America.
00:05:59.000 It's the largest border funding and border security bill in American history.
00:06:03.000 We're getting illegals off Medicaid, which is major and it is massive. 1.00
00:06:08.000 We are also seeing no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.
00:06:12.000 I don't think we got no tax on Social Security.
00:06:15.000 But hopefully eventually we'll get that.
00:06:16.000 We're doing work requirements and means testing.
00:06:19.000 We are also seeing the Golden Dome investment.
00:06:22.000 Please brag, Senator, on some of your favorite elements of this bill because there's a lot more goodies in this bill than I think our audience even realizes at times.
00:06:31.000 Right.
00:06:32.000 So what we did with Social Security, since by the law, we cannot touch Social Security, but what we did is we're giving seniors a $4,000 tax credit in addition.
00:06:41.000 So essentially, we're not going to tax their social security, but doing it in a different way.
00:06:47.000 We increased the child tax credit.
00:06:49.000 Look, Republicans doubled the tax credit in 2017 with this bill, and now we increased it another $500.
00:06:57.000 So we increase the tax deduction for having children to $2,500 as well.
00:07:03.000 That would be another answer.
00:07:04.000 A little Second Amendment, we've slipped in there.
00:07:06.000 There are some rules and regulations around what I would call a silencer, a muffler on guns, that type of thing.
00:07:13.000 So there are a whole lot of low-hanging fruit in here.
00:07:16.000 The Golden Dome is in here, President Trump's Golden Dome, the first down payment on some type of satellite system to help intercept nuclear warheads, that type of thing.
00:07:26.000 huge pay raises for our troops We have 400,000 violent criminal aliens in this country. 0.68
00:07:38.000 It is way more expensive, Charlie.
00:07:40.000 It may cost $100,000 per person to escort them out of this country.
00:07:44.000 Thank you, Joe Biden.
00:07:46.000 And we'll take care of that for four years.
00:07:49.000 We don't have to go back to the Democrats every year and say, hey, we want money for the border.
00:07:53.000 We want money for the military.
00:07:55.000 So we have significant money in here to take care of the military, for the most part, for four years, and the president's border security and the removal of illegal aliens.
00:08:05.000 So I'm confident that this will pass.
00:08:09.000 I know that you are a pro-life warrior from Kansas, and thank you for that.
00:08:13.000 It did pass in the current form of defunding of Planned Parenthood.
00:08:18.000 I'm told that I could run into a little bit of a thicket in the U.S. Senate.
00:08:21.000 Susan Collins, who I really like, she actually has always said that she is pro-choice and that this is a red line.
00:08:27.000 Do you think that there is an opportunity to keep defunding a Planned Parenthood in there?
00:08:32.000 I know that discussion is ongoing.
00:08:34.000 And what is your message to pro-life warriors that have been fighting so hard for this cause for years?
00:08:38.000 Oh my gosh.
00:08:39.000 So I assume that we're losing Susan Collins' vote no matter what.
00:08:44.000 It's a 50. I think we'll lose her on Medicaid, a few others. 1.00
00:08:47.000 And I respect her.
00:08:48.000 She is representing a Democrat state.
00:08:49.000 I get it.
00:08:50.000 I totally agree.
00:08:51.000 She's an R and a D state.
00:08:53.000 You've got to cut a lot of margin there.
00:08:54.000 Please keep going.
00:08:55.000 But nobody else has an excuse.
00:08:57.000 I agree.
00:08:57.000 Nobody else has a damn excuse.
00:09:00.000 And they need to get in here and play the game.
00:09:02.000 And if you get 90% of what you want, we better pass this bill and move on.
00:09:06.000 And I'm sick about where our federal deficit is now.
00:09:09.000 We could come back and do five shows on that.
00:09:11.000 We spent an hour yesterday as a Republican caucus talking about the national debt and what's going on with selling our treasuries, that type of thing as well.
00:09:21.000 But I do think we get there.
00:09:23.000 My message to my pro-life people is...
00:09:26.000 We did what we wanted to do.
00:09:28.000 We sent most of the issues back to the state.
00:09:31.000 And now the states need to do their job as well.
00:09:34.000 But we're still losing a million babies every year.
00:09:36.000 A million.
00:09:37.000 Most of them are from this abortion pill.
00:09:40.000 And we're trying to do some things there to curve the edges around it.
00:09:44.000 They're able to just call up and basically mail order this pill without having any idea how far along the patient is.
00:09:50.000 So I'm working on that up here.
00:09:53.000 But Planned Parenthood is the number one source of not just the abortions, but this abortion pill as well. 0.58
00:09:59.000 So we'll defund them, and this is probably the second biggest day for the pro-life group after the Dobbs decision, I think, if we get this across the finish line.
00:10:10.000 Really quick, thank you for that, and I pray we can keep the defunding of Planned Parenthood in this bill.
00:10:14.000 So fight hard for that, Senator.
00:10:16.000 The base is really watching on that.
00:10:17.000 Maha Report is out.
00:10:18.000 I know you're the chair of the Maha Commission.
00:10:20.000 What can we expect, or what is in it?
00:10:22.000 Senator about a minute and a half remaining.
00:10:24.000 Look, I think number one, when I think about Make America Healthy, Great Again, Healthy Again is 60% of Americans have a chronic disease of some sort.
00:10:34.000 Most of it is nutritionally related or related to toxins.
00:10:37.000 So I expect this Maha report to talk about the importance of soil health and the nutrient quality that we're feeding to our, especially our children.
00:10:45.000 For whatever reason, I'm especially concerned about the children getting them off to the right foot as well.
00:10:50.000 The toxins that they're being exposed to are probably in these ultra.
00:10:53.000 So, 70% of the calories Americans consume are in ultra-processed foods, so I think that they'll address that as well.
00:11:01.000 I made a few notes.
00:11:03.000 Gold standard science.
00:11:04.000 I really, as a doctor, can't sit there and say what type of oil is best to cook supper in tonight.
00:11:10.000 Is it soybean oil?
00:11:12.000 Is it tallow?
00:11:13.000 What is it?
00:11:13.000 So, we need gold standard research, not influenced by commercial operations as well.
00:11:20.000 Look.
00:11:22.000 50-60% of Americans are on a prescription drug right now.
00:11:25.000 And I think we want to look into what that's all about as well.
00:11:28.000 Senator, keep up the great work and get your colleagues in the ring.
00:11:32.000 Cut some slack for Susan Collins.
00:11:33.000 The rest of them have no excuses.
00:11:35.000 Pass it.
00:11:36.000 Be bold.
00:11:37.000 Be courageous.
00:11:38.000 Be transparent.
00:11:39.000 And let's deliver a win together.
00:11:41.000 Thank you so much, Senator.
00:11:42.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:11:43.000 Let's make America great again.
00:11:44.000 Thank you.
00:11:45.000 Thank you, Senator.
00:11:45.000 Keep fighting.
00:11:46.000 Great job.
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00:12:49.000 Okay, so a terrible thing happened last night.
00:12:51.000 Awful.
00:12:53.000 And last night, Sarah Milgram and Yaren Lichinsky, a young couple who were Messianic Jews, so they're Jews who gave their life to Jesus, We're attending an event in Washington, D.C. at a Jewish cultural center.
00:13:12.000 They leave the event, and waiting for them is this evil lunatic who drove from Chicago, 30 years old, all the way to Washington, D.C., and assassinated both of them in cold blood in public eye.
00:13:34.000 I'm not going to say the assassin's name because the assassin wants to be as well known as Luigi.
00:13:40.000 And that's an incentive that's a very big problem.
00:13:44.000 Without getting into all the details of what this guy believed or where he got the information from, he did say free Palestine.
00:13:52.000 So this is 100% a hit job against Jews.
00:13:55.000 This is a hit job against people that support Israel.
00:13:59.000 But I want to take another...
00:14:03.000 Element, another wrinkle here.
00:14:06.000 The Luigi effect is not going away.
00:14:09.000 It's disturbing.
00:14:10.000 It's scary.
00:14:11.000 In fact, we saw another assassination attempt very similar to the Luigi one.
00:14:16.000 You don't know the Luigi Maggioni case.
00:14:18.000 Of course, he murdered the healthcare CEO in cold blood and then is a hero on the left.
00:14:25.000 People love Luigi on the left, the far radical left.
00:14:34.000 This is going to continue to be a problem.
00:14:36.000 The movie The Joker, I think, shows the type of nihilism that is seeping into so much of this one-off criminal activity.
00:14:51.000 Some people on social media, and I'm just going to gently push against it, and I wrote a tweet about this, are blaming people that have been critical of the war in Gaza as to say, that's why this person got radicalized.
00:15:03.000 Guys, I have to be very clear.
00:15:05.000 It drives me crazy when a right-wing person does violence and they try to blame me for it.
00:15:12.000 I think that's very sloppy.
00:15:13.000 I think it's very...
00:15:15.000 Or they say, Charlie, you're responsible for January the 6th.
00:15:18.000 I think we have to resist that temptation.
00:15:20.000 I think we have to say it's just not true.
00:15:23.000 I wrote this in a tweet, and I liked what I said.
00:15:26.000 Just because an idea is provocative or even offensive does not make it violent.
00:15:31.000 Every person is responsible for their own agency, and I would make an argument that that is a misleading target as to why this happened.
00:15:44.000 It's less about the influences ideologically and more about, I think, how this person thinks the Luigi effect could benefit him.
00:15:55.000 The Luigi effect is a serious issue where they believe that they can become a social media martyr for that cause, not just the action itself, but that you then can become the face of the resistance against your said struggle.
00:16:14.000 Thank you.
00:16:16.000 This is a terrible story, and one that I'm sure we're going to learn more as time proceeds.
00:16:25.000 It's a tragic and unspeakable another chapter in this ongoing national schism.
00:16:34.000 This young couple was about to be engaged.
00:16:37.000 They had their entire life ahead of them.
00:16:39.000 They did nothing wrong except they held a political view about a foreign country that this lunatic did not share.
00:16:49.000 This guy had just bought a ring.
00:16:52.000 He had everything planned out to get married to her.
00:16:55.000 And their punishment for supporting Israel ended up being an assassination.
00:17:02.000 In the middle of the street and in total cold blood.
00:17:06.000 We gotta dial this back.
00:17:08.000 We gotta dial this back, guys.
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00:18:19.000 Joining us now is a great friend, a warrior, a fighter for liberty and truth, James O 'Keefe.
00:18:24.000 And I'm thrilled about what might be happening here after a bitter struggle of multiple years.
00:18:30.000 James, my friend, great to see you.
00:18:32.000 Please share with our audience this promising news.
00:18:35.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:18:35.000 Great to be with you and great job in England.
00:18:38.000 Thank you.
00:18:39.000 I'm surprised they didn't arrest you for saying what you said.
00:18:39.000 You're a very brave man.
00:18:43.000 Well, I've got to be honest.
00:18:43.000 I tried my best and I was disappointed that I did not get into handcuffs.
00:18:48.000 I would have loved to have become a political prisoner because I think Marco Rubio and President Trump would have made a couple phone calls.
00:18:55.000 But I tried my best.
00:18:56.000 Well, they don't have a First Amendment over there, so what you did was very brave and I thank you for that.
00:19:01.000 I report to you all today that people are asking what actually happened at Project Veritas, the organization I founded.
00:19:09.000 And I've released, Charlie, a movie released yesterday on my website called The Truth Inside Veritas.
00:19:16.000 There's a 12-minute video we published online.
00:19:19.000 Apparently, in these depositions in the court case between me and my organization I founded, board members admitted that they were in business together.
00:19:27.000 They had various entanglements.
00:19:30.000 And they were co-investing in medical companies that, quote, could be sold to Pfizer.
00:19:34.000 As you recall, I investigated Pfizer two years ago, did a huge story on the director of mRNA research and scientific planning.
00:19:42.000 Just a week later, I was fired.
00:19:44.000 Now it turns out they had investments.
00:19:45.000 You're looking at a federal deposition of George Skakel, and he's admitting that he was in business with these other board members, Charlie.
00:19:53.000 So this is kind of some breaking news here.
00:19:55.000 And I am in talks to retain control.
00:20:00.000 Get back in control of Project Veritas, the nonprofit that I once founded.
00:20:04.000 That is amazing, James.
00:20:05.000 And just remind our audience the very difficult couple years you had to go through and what it would mean to now reassert control over Project Veritas.
00:20:14.000 Well, I mean, you and I have talked about this in Arizona and elsewhere.
00:20:18.000 It's a lot of things.
00:20:20.000 This film, The Truth Behind Veritas, is really a story about original sin.
00:20:26.000 I think what we do...
00:20:28.000 The investigative video journalism getting sued all the time.
00:20:31.000 By the way, I got sued last week by one of these deep state guys that we busted.
00:20:35.000 I think people are put under pressure.
00:20:37.000 They're put through a high-powered lens.
00:20:39.000 But when you run an organization, you have people who feel entitled, who sometimes get jealous or get envious, and that can turn very toxic.
00:20:50.000 It can grow vindictive when people don't get what they want.
00:20:54.000 But also when you're being raided by the feds, when you're being It's very, very difficult, Charlie.
00:21:20.000 I've talked about this extensively.
00:21:21.000 It's very painful to go through that.
00:21:25.000 We've all been through it to some degree, if you've ever built anything.
00:21:28.000 And I learned some lessons about who to surround myself and who not to surround myself with.
00:21:34.000 And you've got to have really strong people who are very virtuous people who are willing to tell the truth and shame the devil.
00:21:41.000 Not an easy thing to endure, but hopefully this will all get resolved very soon.
00:21:47.000 What has this process taught you about yourself, going from when they took your nonprofit from you, Very good question.
00:22:09.000 I think the number one lesson I've learned is, you know, I would say, Charlie, everyone can come into my inner circle.
00:22:15.000 If you want to be involved, by all means.
00:22:17.000 And I know that you get this.
00:22:19.000 I get this every day.
00:22:20.000 Hundreds of messages of people wanting to help.
00:22:23.000 And it's one thing for them to help with the grassroots level, but I think letting them into your inner sanctum, I think, and I hope you would agree, you really do have to be careful with who you surround yourself with.
00:22:33.000 You can't let everybody into your headquarters, you know, close to you, because I think people will, they will betray you when the going gets tough.
00:22:42.000 Not because you've done anything wrong, but because they're incentivized to.
00:22:47.000 I think one of the things I've struggled with is how to reconcile the instinct for self-preservation with always doing the right thing.
00:22:53.000 And if you're going to be a truth-teller, and I mean if you're really going to be a truth-teller, the self-preservation and self-interest come into conflict with that.
00:23:05.000 So you have to find people who are almost messianic, who are mission-driven, who are self-sacrificial to a certain degree.
00:23:13.000 If you want to do this type of truth-telling.
00:23:16.000 So what I've learned is discernment.
00:23:19.000 And perhaps I was slightly naive.
00:23:20.000 But I also think, like I said, this is a story about original sin.
00:23:24.000 You watch this film and it's really remarkable.
00:23:27.000 The vindictiveness and the pettiness of people.
00:23:31.000 And also, you know, sometimes it just comes down to money.
00:23:34.000 It just comes down to money.
00:23:36.000 And you heard Skakel say in the movie, he points at his house and says, you can't afford my house, O 'Keefe.
00:23:42.000 And that statement just said so much about who he is.
00:23:47.000 And unfortunately, you got some people here who I probably shouldn't have hired.
00:23:51.000 Let's play cut 377. 0.94
00:23:54.000 I shouldn't have trusted these guys, but I did trust these guys.
00:23:58.000 A lot of people thought there was malfeasance.
00:24:01.000 I prefer to say ignorant of those events.
00:24:04.000 I didn't want to know.
00:24:05.000 Nonprofit boards of directors can be very, very dangerous.
00:24:11.000 Fortunately, I have recordings and documents to back up everything I'm about to tell you.
00:24:15.000 Employees, we're starting to bundle up and talk.
00:24:18.000 If we're about to paint James as a criminal, it better be What did we just see there, James?
00:24:46.000 We have a podcast and radio audience.
00:24:48.000 I mean, that is very dramatic.
00:24:50.000 Oh, yeah.
00:24:51.000 It's very cinematic.
00:24:52.000 For those of listeners who are not seeing this, this is Baroque paintings and images of me nailed to a crucifix.
00:25:02.000 Employees accusing me of stealing pregnant ladies' sandwiches.
00:25:06.000 Bizarre, strange human envies and jealousies and pettiness, but this is incredible.
00:25:12.000 I mean, I'm not just saying this.
00:25:13.000 It took us two months to make.
00:25:15.000 Very well done.
00:25:16.000 Very artistic.
00:25:18.000 You see courtroom deposition footage.
00:25:20.000 These are public proceedings.
00:25:21.000 People ask me, Charlie, well, how can you air all this footage from a court case?
00:25:25.000 Deposition footage is public proceeding.
00:25:27.000 So this is a really remarkable film that actually takes you inside the boardroom at Project Veritas where you get to hear these grievances.
00:25:35.000 You actually hear a recording of the board meeting, of the board members who fired me, the reasons for firing me, which are so bizarre, it almost seems fake, but it's real.
00:25:47.000 And that's what you're watching here on the screen about what really happened.
00:25:52.000 Joe Rogan yesterday, Charlie Kirk.
00:25:53.000 Joe Rogan on the air with Aaron Rodgers asking, whatever happened with James O 'Keefe and Project Bear?
00:25:59.000 Why doesn't O 'Keefe release the tapes?
00:26:01.000 Well, ironically, literally, I did while he was saying that yesterday.
00:26:06.000 And so I guess the final question I have, James, and by the way, I have your back 100%.
00:26:10.000 I've had this entire process, and I'm thrilled to see that you're going to be on the right side of this.
00:26:16.000 I know we talked about this a lot throughout the years, and I hope our audience is getting closure here.
00:26:21.000 What is next, then?
00:26:23.000 Do you believe the grassroots are ready to continue this rise of citizen journalism?
00:26:31.000 Man, I think the type of journalism that we do is a little bit different than perhaps commentary journalism.
00:26:44.000 Creating business models as I speak to you about how to make this sustainable.
00:26:49.000 I got sued last week by one of the guys I busted in the Pentagon.
00:26:52.000 It's not cheap.
00:26:54.000 And I think citizen journalism is not free.
00:26:59.000 It costs money to do.
00:27:01.000 And I built a non-profit.
00:27:03.000 Now we have Citizen Journalism Foundation.
00:27:05.000 Hopefully we acquire Project Veritas here and we change the name back to Project Veritas Foundation.
00:27:12.000 But I don't know if the commercial imperative, Charlie, is fully compatible with investigative journalism.
00:27:19.000 In other words, I don't know that it can be profitable.
00:27:23.000 And therefore, I don't know how to make it sustainable, but I'm working on it.
00:27:26.000 And we've done some big stories in Epstein the last couple weeks.
00:27:29.000 We have more stories coming in our federal government exposing corruption.
00:27:33.000 And I said this, and I mean this sincerely, the stuff that I have on video, particularly in Washington, D.C., of these contractors, people should be going to jail.
00:27:42.000 And if they don't go to jail, then I'm going to have serious questions about who our prosecutors are.
00:27:47.000 But I'm trying to make journalism sustainable, and I'm trying to create business models for it.
00:27:54.000 But also, Charlie, reckoning with these aspects of human nature that make it difficult to do when you're telling the truth and when you're shaming the devil.
00:28:07.000 Instincts for self-preservation often come into conflict with what you're doing.
00:28:11.000 And that's why I wanted to tell this story.
00:28:13.000 And it's an ongoing story, but I wanted to tell the story.
00:28:16.000 Keep fighting, James.
00:28:17.000 Hope to see you soon, my friend.
00:28:17.000 We have your back.
00:28:19.000 Thank you.
00:28:19.000 Thank you so much.
00:28:20.000 Bye-bye.
00:28:23.000 What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life-saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common?
00:28:31.000 They're all small business owners, and they're all thriving on TikTok.
00:28:35.000 Across the U.S., over 7.5 million businesses, from family-owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok to compete and grow.
00:28:42.000 We use TikTok all the time on The Charlie Kirk Show.
00:28:44.000 In fact, 74% of businesses on TikTok say TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations, increasing sales, and expanding to new locations.
00:28:52.000 And that growth means jobs.
00:28:54.000 Today, there's over 7.5 million U.S. businesses on TikTok employing more than 28 million people.
00:28:59.000 And that number keeps growing.
00:29:00.000 Small businesses thrive on TikTok.
00:29:02.000 Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the U.S. economy at TikTokEconomicImpact.com.
00:29:11.000 Email us, FreedomAtCharlieKirk.com.
00:29:14.000 I want to dance around here a little bit, but I do want to complete a very important point.
00:29:20.000 We talked about the Big Beautiful Bill.
00:29:21.000 There are a lot of details about the Big Beautiful Bill that are not necessarily getting coverage.
00:29:25.000 Do I wish that it would cut more spending?
00:29:27.000 Of course I do.
00:29:28.000 However, it does cut some spending.
00:29:31.000 It rolls back a lot of the Biden-era Green Energy Inflation Reduction Act nonsense.
00:29:38.000 Does some good reforms to Medicaid, doesn't do enough, but does some good work requirements to Medicaid.
00:29:43.000 The tax cuts are awesome.
00:29:46.000 Chip Roy got some very important concessions.
00:29:50.000 Chip Roy, he drove a really hard bargain, fiscal conservative, and I appreciate that from him.
00:29:55.000 We need more fiscal conservatives back in the Republican Party because debts do matter and deficits do matter. 0.80
00:30:02.000 Chip Roy got in the massive spending bill up to $12 billion to reimburse states for border security during the Biden administration, which is terrific.
00:30:11.000 So it's given $12 billion back to states to reimburse Texas and Arizona for all the border security that they've been doing.
00:30:18.000 By the way, we've got to get rid of Katie Hobbs. 1.00
00:30:20.000 That's why we have fully endorsed Andy Biggs.
00:30:22.000 By the way, can we get the Andy Biggs graphic up there?
00:30:24.000 We have a big event we're doing for Andy Biggs.
00:30:26.000 I want to make sure that we're promoting for all of you.
00:30:27.000 We want to have a very, very big crowd there.
00:30:30.000 No tax on tips.
00:30:31.000 No tax on overtime.
00:30:32.000 Major, major, major tax cuts across the board.
00:30:35.000 We're going to be taxing remittances, which is very important.
00:30:41.000 The border security here is probably the best takeaway.
00:30:43.000 We now have border security funding that will live on beyond Donald Trump.
00:30:49.000 That is what is important.
00:30:51.000 We now have the border security funding for more deportations, more border force.
00:30:56.000 Which, by the way, that is one thing I think that we can...
00:30:59.000 Take from the Brits. 0.59
00:31:02.000 They call their Border Patrol Border Force.
00:31:06.000 I'm sorry, that's way cooler than Border Patrol.
00:31:09.000 Like, way cooler.
00:31:10.000 When you enter, they say, now check in with Border Force.
00:31:15.000 I was like, man, I like that.
00:31:17.000 We got it.
00:31:18.000 That's some good branding.
00:31:20.000 Chip Roy says he voted yes.
00:31:22.000 It accelerates the Medicaid work requirements from three years, from 2029 to 2026.
00:31:27.000 Huge.
00:31:28.000 Helped stave off further Obamacare expansion by aligning SDPs in Medicaid rates, froze the state provider taxes to ensure states don't grow their money laundering schemes, paid tax understates back for the border security, and began to claw back the Green News scam put on steroids by the Inflation Reduction Act, namely by putting in place a required construction start within 60 days of enactment and much earlier, and all designed to limit the reach of these subsidies. 0.54
00:31:56.000 So is it a perfect bill?
00:31:57.000 Nothing's perfect, but it is a great bill.
00:31:59.000 Are you kidding me?
00:32:00.000 This thing's really good.
00:32:01.000 There's a lot of good here.
00:32:02.000 And by the way, we also get a chance at the budget later this year.
00:32:06.000 This is not the budget bill.
00:32:08.000 This is just reconciliation.
00:32:09.000 This unleashes energy.
00:32:11.000 We're going to drill baby drill.
00:32:12.000 By the way, remember that thing where I said we need to get it in the bill for that $1,000 Trump account for every new baby in America?
00:32:20.000 That's in there.
00:32:22.000 That's in there.
00:32:26.000 It extends tax cuts.
00:32:30.000 Also, breaking news.
00:32:31.000 President Trump and the Trump administration has blocked Harvard's ability to enroll international students.
00:32:38.000 No more jihadis or Chinese spies under the guise of education. 0.84
00:32:42.000 I'm sure they're going to love that one at Harvard.
00:32:45.000 It's going to be quite lively.
00:32:50.000 A lot going on.
00:32:51.000 We'll continue to dive into that story.
00:32:56.000 All this to say, the big, beautiful bill is going to be signed if the Senate does its job.
00:33:02.000 We've got to crawl back the SALT thing. 0.98
00:33:04.000 The SALT thing is a total scam.
00:33:06.000 The SALT thing, you can't subsidize Blue State.
00:33:09.000 You can't subsidize J.B. Pritzker and Gavin Newsom.
00:33:10.000 You've got to crawl back the SALT thing. 0.97
00:33:12.000 It's a disaster.
00:33:14.000 All that to say, it's a big win.
00:33:18.000 And President Trump is the closer.
00:33:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:22.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.