00:00:29.000And I encourage you to get involved with turning pointusa at tpusa.com, tpusa.com.
00:00:37.000If you are in Illinois, you need to listen to this episode because I focus on the Naperville School District 203 and text it to all your friends in Illinois because it is scary and dangerous what's happening in my former home state.
00:01:03.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:12.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:11.000And everything we said was absolutely factual and correct.
00:03:17.000And what's been very interesting to see over the last 24 hours is how the activist media and people that are very overly protective of Megan Markle, Oprah, and Prince Harry have reacted to any sort of criticism thrown their way.
00:03:38.000So I just want to talk about from a broader theme, why I think it's actually important that we zero in on this.
00:03:49.000Certain institutions are important to protect and preserve and to remain intact.
00:03:58.000In the United Kingdom, the tradition, the legacy of the monarchy is something that is taken very, very seriously.
00:04:05.000And I have a great deal of respect for it.
00:04:07.000Every time I visit London and I visit my very good friends in the United Kingdom, we have Turning Point UK.
00:04:12.000It is something that people are very, very proud of.
00:05:07.000And so when someone comes onto the scene and has a general negative narrative to contribute, especially someone that I think should be having more gratitude than not, such as Megan Markle, and attacking the royal family, I just say, timeout.
00:05:25.000It seems as if there's a general trend that every institution that wasn't created by the left in the last 18 months must be destroyed.
00:05:38.000Dr. Seuss, Aunt Jemima, Gone with the Wind, Thomas Jefferson, George S. Patton, Teddy Roosevelt, you name it.
00:05:44.000So this general trend of the removal and the accusation, this idea that everyone who came before me except Vladimir Lenin is a bad person, I just kind of say slow down a little bit.
00:05:56.000Remove that kind of prideful arrogance, that resentment, and maybe say that there's a rich tradition that came before you, and you're not the greatest person ever to grace the planet.
00:06:12.000And so that pattern manifests itself in a variety of different ways.
00:06:15.000And it just seems it came together in one interview at one time, all these different cultural trends, which is why I think it's worthy of commenting on it.
00:06:24.000It seems as if this was almost an intersection point of dozens of different cultural issues in one interview.
00:06:33.000You had one where you had the multi-billionaire black woman who plays into victimhood culture, despite herself being a victor and a very successful woman who built her whole career around that narrative, Oprah Winfrey.
00:06:45.000You have Megan Markle, who throws an accusation of which I don't think she's telling the truth.
00:06:54.000And at the very least, I think that she is misrepresenting what happened because she doesn't offer specifics when she was pressed on it.
00:07:02.000And then you have Prince Harry, who allows his family and his country to go basically to be attacked without any sort of defense whatsoever.
00:07:13.000And his family, who deserves praise and credit for the strong example that they have portrayed for the rest of the world, quite honestly.
00:07:26.000And then all of a sudden, he's going to sit idly by while their honor is attacked publicly.
00:07:34.000And again, it goes to this deeper point, which is: are we just going to allow ungrateful, unhappy people to tear down everything that came before them?
00:07:45.000I'm not saying a monarchy is perfect, of course not.
00:07:49.000But this seemingly irresistible urge to go scorched earth on cultural institutions is incredibly dangerous, self-defeating, and I think it has to be stopped.
00:08:04.000The arrogance and the resentment from that line of thinking.
00:08:08.000And so there's a lot of different details that we can unpack.
00:08:13.000And I think that Prince Harry in particular, who has now decided to play into this very troubling false narrative, basically saying that I agree my family has so many problems.
00:08:32.000They're not honorable that I will disconnect and disassociate it.
00:08:38.000He even said that I felt trapped when I was part of the monarchy.
00:08:42.000And this is what irritates me the most.
00:08:48.000Oh, I felt so under attack and trapped because it's such a difficult life being a royal.
00:08:57.000After the last year of the suffering and the lockdowns and the pain that so many people felt, we now have to be lectured by someone born into the royal family about how difficult that life might be.
00:09:11.000But if you are now actively participating in the destruction of institutions that came before you with no desire to build anything new, instead just making an entire public persona on the accusation of multi-generational honor and success, then I'm going to do everything I possibly can to call that out.
00:09:43.000The experiment of Western civilization, of which the United Kingdom has played a massive role, is under attack in a variety of different ways.
00:10:01.000And so we'll continue to build that out.
00:10:04.000But for anyone wondering over the last 24 hours, do I think any differently?
00:10:10.000Why would I think any differently from what I said on that?
00:10:14.000Oprah Winfrey platformed a non-stop interview on victimhood and on trying to attack honorable people.
00:10:30.000And then Megan Markle, I think, comes up with a narrative that is not rooted at all in facts or any sort of evidence.
00:10:38.000And when she was pressed, she didn't offer that.
00:10:41.000What I always love looking and seeing is how so many of these deconstructionists like Megan Markle may have no interest, no desire, and quite honestly, no skill or talent to create anything to replace what they want to destroy.
00:12:39.000Should I want to respond to a question that someone emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:12:47.000Someone said, Hey, Charlie, I go to Southern Utah University in my last semester.
00:12:52.000I'm getting my degree in communication, which I know is a little useless.
00:12:56.000I was fortunate enough to get a scholarship to pay for my school.
00:12:58.000At least I was not going to get to my degree.
00:13:00.000I've worked in HR in the School Career Center as a student employee, and I've noticed that there are lots of jobs that require applicants to have a degree to be considered for a job, but they really don't care what you studied.
00:13:09.000How do we reconcile the idea of going to college to get a skill to the market that attracts people with useless majors?
00:13:14.000In my case, I feel like an HR experience is much more valuable than my degree, but the experience alone wouldn't be enough for a lot of jobs out there.
00:13:23.000So, this is one of the biggest problems with the college cartel: employers are demanding having a degree.
00:13:33.000Where if you really want to break that system, the key will be the accreditation gap.
00:13:42.000Why employers demand a college degree is really stunning.
00:13:48.000There is no difference between a high school graduate of most times and a college graduate.
00:13:52.000The only difference is that the college graduate has a significantly greater debt burden.
00:13:58.000In fact, we have hired plenty of people at Turning Point USA, and we care much more about your work ethic and your character than whether or not you have a piece of paper from a university.
00:14:07.000We hire people that have not graduated college, people that have graduated high school.
00:14:12.000And the number one correlation between a successful employee is work ethic and character.
00:14:20.000The willingness to learn and to do the right thing.
00:14:25.000A lot of people say, Well, these employers say I need to get a degree.
00:14:28.000Well, I would encourage people maybe to take a gap year, go to local community college before you would enter into a four-year experience, unless you know specifically the type of skill that you want to acquire.
00:14:45.000If you know why you want to go to college to become a doctor, to become an engineer, to get a skill that would help you in the marketplace, then so be it.
00:15:00.000However, if you are going to college for an ideological exploration to find yourself, you'll more likely lose yourself.
00:15:10.000And for the parents listening out there, and we experience this all the time at Turning Point USA, you are going to play Russian roulette with your child's values.
00:15:22.000And so, I understand that the pressure is on high school students to go to college.
00:15:27.000And I'm not saying no one should go to college.
00:15:50.000To go borrow money, you don't have to study things that don't matter to go and find jobs that don't exist.
00:15:57.000This is actually going to be the essence of my upcoming book where I am going to go right into the conversation around college in our country, where I truly believe our country would be a better place if college enrollment dropped by 30 or 40 percent and we had more plumbers, electricians, carpenters, people that work with their hand, the hands.
00:16:23.000The problem is, most suburban parents don't want their kids to become a plumber or electrician.
00:16:28.000They would much rather have their kids become a secular liberal than a happy, God-fearing plumber.
00:16:38.000There is a massive skills gap in our country where people graduating with communications and psychology and humanities degrees are struggling the most.
00:16:53.000Where people that actually have a very specific skill, they are able to then find employment, see raising wages, and not be in debt.
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00:19:28.000But now, Democrats are going in a truly regressive direction.
00:19:38.000You see, the people that Are the biggest proponents of progress are actually now the ones that are pushing the hardest to bring us back to the times of George Wallace.
00:19:59.000So let's first listen to the words yourself.
00:20:01.000Listen to George Wallace back when he was running for president.
00:20:05.000Play tape: In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny.
00:20:18.000And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever.
00:20:43.000And it's not the segregation that CNN would wrongly portray on their cable news network.
00:20:53.000Instead, it's from Columbia University, Columbia University in New York, Manhattan, now is offering, hosting through the university segregated graduation ceremonies.
00:21:11.000At Columbia University, graduation is segregated by race, sexuality, and income level.
00:21:20.000Columbia University is now describing these graduation ceremonies as multicultural graduation ceremonies.
00:21:29.000In the last week of April, graduation will be offered virtually for LGBTQIA plus blacks or first generation or low-income.
00:21:44.000So whites are not allowed discriminating based on skin color.
00:21:48.000And I'm reading off of CharlieKirk.com.
00:21:51.000It's on the front page of CharlieKirk.com.
00:21:54.000You can read along with me and check out our other stories.
00:21:58.000How is this not against the Civil Rights Act discriminating against white people?
00:22:03.000Not allowing whites to go to the black graduation ceremony.
00:22:09.000Of course, New York University, NYU University, was entertaining for quite a while, and it's unclear whether or not it actually happened because of the virus.
00:22:36.000Number two, you think that black people, the only way they could possibly succeed is in a segregated environment, which is exactly what the KKK and George Wallace used to say.
00:22:48.000And number three, you care so much about skin color and the melanin content in people's skin that you now want to truly divide people based on race, class, and gender.
00:23:01.000Columbia continues by saying that racially and sexually segregated graduation ceremonies will be hosted throughout the week.
00:23:14.000They are, and I quote, the native graduation ceremony, the lavender graduation ceremony on Monday, April 26th, the Asian graduation ceremony, the FLI graduation ceremony for first generation or low-income community, the Latin X graduation ceremony, and yes, the black graduation ceremony.
00:23:41.000Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed of an America without separation and segregation.
00:23:47.000The dream of Martin Luther King Jr. is dying at the hands of leftists, not liberals.
00:23:57.000John Lewis, who the left tries to quote quite often to try to pass universal vote by mail, says, we saw ourselves doing the work of the Almighty.
00:24:08.000Segregation and racial discrimination were not in keeping with our faith, so we had to do something.
00:24:16.000Major Owens said, what is our greatest enemy?
00:24:21.000Rashida Talib says, I still remember at the age of 12 learning that segregation had been permitted only a couple of decades before I was born, that a woman's right to vote was not even a century old.
00:24:32.000But it was the great Americans who stood up, some dying for the cause to make our country better.
00:24:37.000Jesse Jackson, in many ways, history is marked as before and after Rosa Parks.
00:24:42.000She sat down in order that we all might stand up and the walls of segregation came down.
00:24:46.000Well, Jesse Jackson, the walls of segregation are coming up.
00:24:52.000Our children are being re-segregated voluntarily by mostly white liberals that are running these universities.
00:25:02.000Well, because unity is a threat to the power grab of the left.
00:25:08.000Unity poses a danger to those who wish to demagogue and assume complete and total control over a society.
00:25:22.000So as I read here again from CharlieKirk.com, Columbia University hosts six different commencements segregated by race, sexuality, and income level.
00:25:33.000Only people that would want to divide our country, turn people against each other, could support such a thing under the disguise, under the camouflage of progress.
00:25:48.000There is nothing progressive about focusing on skin color.
00:25:53.000In fact, what made America the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world, the most successful multiracial country in the history of the world, was that we moved past the separation of our skin color and into, at least for a brief moment, a conversation based on character, one that would reward good decisions based in a meritocracy,
00:26:20.000a multi-generational idea that if you work hard and play by the rules, you can move up in society.
00:26:33.000It is an intergenerational meritocracy.
00:26:39.000And so if you dare push back against Columbia University and call them racists, which they are, you verge, you are now on the edge potentially of being fired, canceled, or censored.
00:26:58.000So the people that educate your children have now run out of so many ideas.
00:27:06.000In fact, they are so hungry for power, the only playbook that they can go back to is the Southern Democrat Segregationist Playbook, which goes back to one of my main points that I make on this program and our podcast many times.
00:27:21.000And I encourage you guys to check out the Charlie Kirk Show podcast right now, which is that the Democrats have not changed at all.
00:27:29.000Republicans have always been about the lifting up of the individual.
00:27:32.000Republicans have always been about the protection of rights of all people.
00:27:36.000And Democrats just have changed their strategies to keep themselves in control.
00:27:44.000They went from the plantation to intimidation to entitlement, now back to segregation.
00:27:54.000This is one of the most dangerous trends happening in America right now.
00:28:00.000And if you are sending your child to a university campus, They are going to be indoctrinated.
00:28:09.000They are going to be conditioned to believe that the segregation based on skin color is the new progressive idea.
00:28:15.000And it is up for every person, liberal and conservative, to fight leftists.
00:28:21.000And this is something that Dennis Prager talks about quite often, which is if you do not challenge these ideas early, how will a 12-year-old know any different?
00:28:34.000You see, they are taught that George Wallace was a southern Republican because they are taught that the party switched and the parties never switched.
00:28:45.000It's one of the biggest lies taught to our children.
00:28:53.000You see, the America that I advocate for is actually quite simple.
00:28:57.000It's actually the America that I grew up in listening to AM 560 The Answer at Wheeling High School, which is one that, despite our skin differences or cultural differences, the thing that matters most is how you act and your character and what you do, not the melanin content in your skin.
00:29:18.000We were actually taught in high school that if you care about people's skin color, you are the racist.
00:29:29.000But you see, that's far too unifying for the Democrats and for liberals.
00:29:42.000Therefore, people that are pathologically focused on pitting one against each other on race, class, or gender, they tried the class war, Occupy Wall Street failed.
00:29:57.000So then they go at something so fundamental and something so incredibly divisive and dangerous, something that we have overcome, which is divide people based on how you look.
00:30:12.000What a lazy, sloppy and quite honestly dangerous way to govern a society.
00:30:25.000Say that you look a certain way, therefore you must act a certain way.
00:30:29.000Say that you look a certain way, then I'm going to put you in this group.
00:30:34.000We must abolish whiteness is what Coca-Cola tells us.
00:30:38.000And that's in the curriculum of our schools.
00:30:41.000Critical race theory should be renamed as critical racist theory.
00:30:46.000The Federalist has a stunning story about Illinois education.
00:30:53.000Illinois teachers have been shamed for the color of their skin in taxpayer-sponsored anti-racist training.
00:30:58.000You see, this is what happens when parents don't run for school boards and they hope for things to get better.
00:31:06.000And I could tell you, growing up in the suburbs of Chicago, there were a lot of good parents in my area that they did not get involved in local school boards.
00:31:14.000So now in Naperville, District 203, a neighborhood I know very well, some of my family is from that area, taxpayer-funded Community School District 203 hosted a systemic racist training for faculty bringing in anti-racist coach Dina Simmons.
00:31:29.000Now, Dina Simmons basically is as racist or more racist than David Duke.
00:31:35.000All she cares about is people's skin color.
00:31:51.000So part of the curriculum that your teachers in Illinois are being taught, and this is happening all across the country, and we've been on top of the Illinois School Board of Education curriculum.
00:32:00.000We've been on top of what's happening in Arizona, where in Arizona they are now teaching your children are racist, your babies are racist, and critical race theory is all over Arizona.
00:32:11.000And the Republican governor of Arizona has yet to do anything about this from everything I've seen, read, and heard.
00:32:17.000So a whistleblower at Naperville Central, which by the way, just so everyone is clear, Naperville is one of the highest income areas in all of Chicago and a predominantly white area, overwhelmingly white area.
00:32:30.000And so now, because of white guilt, which is throughout our entire system, they now have the David Duke of critical race theory, Dina Simmons, come in.
00:32:40.000All she cares about is skin color, where the Countrywide Equity Institute, I'd love to find out who funds them, comes into Naperville School District 203.
00:32:51.000The streets that I grew up walking on with my family, I know this area so well, decent people are now being told that they're institutionally racist.
00:33:02.000There is a chart that was showed that had the overt white supremacy and covert white supremacy.
00:33:10.000The covert white supremacy is teaching these teachers that the celebration of Columbus Day is white supremacy.
00:33:20.000Telling any sort of joke about anyone that involves a black person is white supremacy.
00:33:27.000The quote, and I tell you right now, the quote that says, quote, but we're just one human family is a statement of white supremacy.
00:33:41.000Denial of white privilege is white supremacy.
00:34:46.000And this seminar has now gone on with great approval of the school board, teaching people that if you have white skin color, there's something wrong with you.
00:34:59.000And that a basic phrase, this is what your children are learning.
00:35:03.000We are one human family is a racist statement.
00:35:06.000They believe that people's skin color matters.
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00:37:28.000But so just the safe place to go is tpusa.com.
00:37:30.000One of the things that I've learned by visiting college campuses the last couple years and learning how the left views the world, because remember, whatever happens on college campuses will soon happen in the halls of Congress and then in corporate boardrooms.
00:37:43.000If you understand the campuses, you understand the ethos of the left, the spirit of the left.
00:37:52.000You understand what drives them and motivates them, which is why we're able to predict what they do so effectively and so accurately, because I've been dealing with these campus leftists for quite some time.
00:38:01.000The college campuses are the training grounds, the deployment centers for campus leftists, all leftists, not just campus leftists.
00:38:13.000So one of the things I learned, which was stunning to me, because this is not taught, but if everyone who is listening to this, if you just remember one thing I say today, it's this one thing, which is that not even liberals, Democrats and leftists do not view you based on their identity group if you are not a leftist.
00:38:38.000I believe identity politics will be the death of America, judging people based on race and gender and maybe class, but most specifically race and gender.
00:38:55.000And in Chicago, teachers at Naperville School District 203 are taught that if you categorize people based on being a human being, just saying we're all human beings, that is you being a white supremacist.
00:39:08.000That is in the curriculum in Naperville District School District 203.
00:39:13.000That is where your 3% of your property taxes are going, 6% if you own a commercial property.
00:39:20.000However, Democrats and leftists do not believe You are gay if you're a conservative.
00:39:29.000Democrats do not believe that you are black if you are a conservative.
00:39:34.000So, for example, Candace Owens and Dave Rubin are not black and they are not gay because they are conservatives.
00:39:45.000So, the identity politics that they truly believe is first and foremost a leftist identity politics.
00:39:51.000That we only care about the color of your skin or your sexual preferences if it fits our political narrative.
00:40:02.000This is exactly why Democrats do not consider Ben Carson to be black.
00:40:09.000They didn't consider Herman Kaine to be black.
00:40:15.000They don't consider Byron Donalds from Florida to be black.
00:40:38.000The fact that you see a black man as a prop, Joy Reed, says a lot more about you than it does about Tim Scott.
00:40:48.000I see a United States senator, and if you really were interested in unity or fair treatment or respect and civil discourse, that's what you would see too.
00:41:01.000So I guess that's Trey Gowdy, not Joy Reed, just based on the Southern drawl.
00:41:07.000I'm not really sure what Joy Reed said, so we're going to need to clarify that.
00:41:13.000So let's go to cut 22 of Tim Scott responding to Joy Reed.
00:41:17.000I could just guess what Joy Reed said.
00:41:18.000She probably said that Tim Scott was being used as a prop and that he wasn't really a black person.
00:41:45.000I think at times you do a little bit too much to pander to the Republican establishment, but that statement right there took moral courage.
00:41:55.000And I want to congratulate you for that and say we stand with you 100% because to say that woke supremacy is as big of a dangerous as white supremacy is 100% true and will drive the leftists nuts.
00:42:14.000They believe that white supremacy is everywhere.
00:43:19.000Woke supremacy is what has infiltrated Coca-Cola.
00:43:22.000It's what's infiltrated the Illinois State Board of Education.
00:43:25.000It's what has infiltrated the Arizona Department of Education.
00:43:32.000That whiteness must be stopped, that all white people act a certain way, that our entire culture is a symptom of white supremacy.
00:43:42.000And again, I'm not really sure what Joy Reed said, but I'm guessing she said that Tim Scott was being used as a prop.
00:43:54.000This goes to a broader theme that we have been building out, that the Democrats are so focused on skin color as a distraction because if they actually had to have a robust conversation on policy, they would lose.
00:44:17.000They would lose not just elections, but they would lose the support of the American people.
00:44:22.000So therefore, the Democrats are trying to build a woke supremacist coalition, great term, Senator Tim Scott, to build together different factions and forces that will force you into submission if you are a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant male, of which I am infinitely guilty of that.
00:45:00.000Every single person is responsible for their own actions, and I can prove it.
00:45:05.000Prove it through the saga of all the royals.
00:45:09.000Megan Markle and Prince Harry are miserable despite being born with all the trappings of privilege and all the infinite fame and dollars that Harry had and Megan was born into.
00:46:55.000So here's his critique of our program.
00:46:57.000Kirk gives his myopic take on certain philosophers that lived in the realm of bygone days who knew nothing of gene editing, quantum physics, or even the importance of hand washing.
00:47:17.000But spins his personal opinions by trying to convince listeners on how they have remained the same by outdated philosophical and biblical mind frames which use simplistic good and evil as argument.
00:47:28.000Okay, so let's just take this one at a time.
00:47:54.000There are dozens of verses in the Bible that talk about the need of hand washing.
00:48:02.000In fact, even so much, if you go into a true kosher restaurant, they have hand washing stations because the Jews, the Israelites, the Hebrews, God's chosen people, understood germ theory before it was articulated in scientific journals.
00:48:28.000There are dozens of verses that talk about the need to wash your hands all throughout Leviticus.
00:48:36.000And again, this guy has no wisdom, but he thinks he has discovered something new because he thinks that Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, the people that lived amongst that time, did not even understand the importance of hand washing when actually it's one of the greatest cell phones in the critiques of public media, where it's actually the exact opposite.
00:48:58.000But people that I talk about that were around 2,400 years ago, they didn't just understand the importance of hand washing, they made it a law.
00:49:10.000The Jewish people made it a law that you must wash your hands.
00:49:15.000He continues, he says again, how things have remained the same by outdated philosophical and biblical mind frames which use simplistic good and evil as an argument.
00:49:29.000You see, this is a logical fallacy in this man, or I think it's a man, it's just written in a certain diction.
00:50:57.000Actually, I think it's important to go through this because this is written like a professor.
00:51:01.000Charlie tries to convince listeners how things have remained the same, which they have, by outdated philosophical and biblical mind frames, which use simplistic and evil as an argument.
00:51:14.000And says that people back in the biblical days did not understand the importance of hand washing, when in reality, it's the Bible which made it a law.
00:51:24.000He continues by saying, Our philosophical, our physiological development, an outcome has no premise in good or evil, but is based on luck, lucky fetal development, lucky gene expressions, lucky parental guidance.
00:51:42.000Well, at least he admits that parental guidance is important.
00:51:47.000So there must be a good parental guidance and a bad parental guidance.
00:51:50.000He says there's no such thing as good and evil.
00:52:06.000So what I always love about people that say everything is luck, which is exactly what the secular nihilists are all about, is that you must then admit that there's a good side of the coin.
00:52:18.000Luck, the idea of luck is inherent that there is either heads or tails is better.
00:52:24.000Or if you have a thing of dice, the point is that there's a hierarchy of what the output of luck can eventually get you to.
00:52:43.000But the idea that you dismiss good and evil and embrace luck isn't by, it's on itself logically inconsistent.
00:52:52.000So if I have a coin and I say heads means I'm going to live a certain way and tails means I'm going to live another way, and then I ask the critic of whom has left this review in our podcast feed, which one is good and which one is bad, or which one is better and which one is worse, even, they have to choose.
00:54:33.000He is a neuroscientist, but there is a God-sized gap, I believe, in Sam Harris's worldview.
00:54:43.000Where Sam Harris believes that you can actually deduce morality from observing the natural world.
00:54:50.000And he comes across the exact same struggle that Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins and many other of the four horsemen of the atheist movement came across, which is the is-ought problem.
00:55:05.000I could tell you what is, but I can't tell you what ought to be by just viewing the natural world.
00:55:10.000He tries to admit it in Sam Harris's defense.
00:55:15.000He tries to overcome it in the book, and I don't think he does so successfully.
00:55:19.000I think that it is inherent in the belief in atheism that they will never overcome the is-ought problem.
00:55:29.000Their critique of us, religious folks, is that we can never overcome the is problem.
00:55:35.000And Sam Harris is a very intelligent person, but he's lacking in wisdom, especially recently.
00:55:41.000Now, a great question we should ask our children is, what is wisdom?
00:55:47.000This is why studying Aristotle is so important, but this person who left this review says, ah, if it's old, it must be outdated.
00:55:54.000You see, that which is old does not mean that it's outdated.
00:56:27.000But wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.
00:56:33.000And this is truly what this whole divide in America is about, is you have half the country that believes because time moves forward because we are in this long march of the institutions.
00:57:22.000Or my favorite is, I find wisdom from my favorite television shows.
00:57:29.000Where do you think a lot of those television shows are copying and borrowing from?
00:57:36.000The eternal text of human behavior, which of course is the Bible, most specifically Proverbs, and the actual title of the book of Proverbs, and we'll have our production team look it up, I believe, is the Solomon Book of Wisdom, otherwise known as Proverbs.
00:57:54.000You can find the law, it has a longer title than we have.
00:57:58.000We just call it the book of Proverbs, but I believe wisdom is in the title.
00:58:03.000You see, but the secularists of which this critique thrown at me is given, and you guys can read it for yourself on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page, and I encourage you guys to do that.
00:58:13.000And while you're at it, hit us subscribe and give us a review if you think it's helpful, is that so much time has passed since Aristotle and Abraham.
00:58:25.000So much time has passed since Plato and Jesus were so much smarter than them.
00:58:34.000Now, you might know a little bit more about how the natural world operates, but the natural world operates exactly the same.
00:58:48.000The laws of nature go unchanged regardless of how powerful your telescope is or your microscope.
00:58:56.000The laws of nature are the same today as they were when Aristotle walked the earth.
00:59:01.000I was looking for this verse and I finally found it.
00:59:03.000This is an example of how the tech giants want to secularize our country.
00:59:11.000If you type into Google spherical earth verse, the first 15 results are all about how the book of the Bible is a book of a flat earth book.
00:59:28.000So, and it's from Brown University, it's from all these different schools where they're teaching the students that the Bible argued for a flat earth or it articulated a flat earth.
00:59:41.000Do you know that that's not only true?
00:59:45.000Isaiah 40, 22, and I quote: It is he, God, who sits above the circle of the earth.
00:59:57.000Now, this is well before the first known theory of a spherical earth was introduced from the Platonic Academy by a man by the name of Eratosthenes or Erostathenes.
01:00:14.000I have to ask Victor Davis Hansen how to pronounce that correctly.
01:00:18.000How would God's chosen people, the Israelites, know that the earth is spherical?
01:00:27.000Maybe because the text was divinely inspired.
01:00:29.000There is not one scientific truth in the Bible that has ever been disproven.
01:00:37.000The critique that this man would give that he gave on our podcast is, what about the supernatural intervention?
01:00:42.000And the answer, those of us that believe in faith, would answer is saying that is God temporarily suspending the laws of nature for his own intervention.
01:00:50.000That does not disprove it did not happen.
01:00:56.000Also, it says in Job 26, 10 that God has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness, a circle, not a flat earth.
01:01:08.000The Bible knew the earth was a spherical object exists, obviously a very large object.
01:01:14.000Do you know the Bible also says that the air has weight, which we know it to be true?
01:01:18.000Job 28:25 imparted weight to the wind and meeted out of the waters by measure.
01:01:27.000Galileo was the first person to theorize this, I believe, nearly 1,400 to 2,000 years later.
01:01:35.000How about Jonah 2.6, a book of the Bible that is commonly mocked by Bill Maher and the atheists?
01:01:42.000Who could believe that someone got swallowed by a whale?
01:01:48.000Now, leaving aside the robust debate that happens between whether or not that is an allegory or a literal narrative, of which I believe it is a literal narrative, what does it say in Jonah 2.6, quote, I went down to the bottoms of the mountains.
01:02:05.000The earth with her bars was about me forever.
01:02:08.000What is that saying that there are mountains under the sea, of which we know to be true?
01:02:12.000How on earth would someone 2,000 years ago know that there were mountains below the sea?
01:02:18.000It's a pretty big guess to be right about, to write into a biblical text, maybe because it was divinely inspired.
01:02:25.000There is a practice that was commonly done by the name of blood letting.
01:02:32.000Bloodletting was done by every single mainstream culture, but Jewish people never did it.
01:02:40.000Leviticus 17, 11, the life of the flesh is in the blood.
01:02:44.000There's more wisdom out there than your professors might tell you.
01:02:47.000He continues by saying, Charlie Kirk seems unlucky in certain brain developmental aspects.
01:02:51.000He might be true, but I work harder than you.
01:02:54.000By not exhibiting a sound analytical approach, but instead choosing to focus, give blame to a political party for conditions caused solely by a viral pandemic.
01:03:05.000You see, this is how I know this guy has no wisdom.
01:03:08.000Most of the suffering of the last year has nothing to do with the virus.
01:04:18.000Veggie Tales had so much, so much depth to it.
01:04:21.000Yeah, he's become a very angry person.
01:04:23.000He says that I'm a white nationalist, racist, all that nonsense.
01:04:26.000And I would love to ask him, because he just, he's very focused on, in his own words, you know, he platformed Lecrae and all that stuff.
01:04:36.000But his own words, he really seems like a critic against conservative nationalism or whatever it is.
01:04:42.000And again, I don't like these terms or these labels.
01:04:45.000And I just want to ask him and so many others: is there a difference between countries?
01:04:51.000Do you think it's easier to spread the gospel in America or North Korea?
01:04:56.000And if the answer is, oh, it's equally as easy, then the conversation is over and just go back to telling, have cucumbers tell us a story of Esther or whatever he's done, right?
01:05:06.000Instead, any honest person would, of course, say, of course, there's a difference between North Korea and America.
01:05:16.000So if you care about the gospel and you care about spreading the good news, you should care about the country of which you live in, so that then you can practice your religion.
01:05:26.000The freedom to which practice your religion is directly under attack.
01:05:29.000It's under attack by one political party and it's being protected by another.
01:05:34.000And the kind of indifference or apathy among so many Christians and the self-righteousness by these on-the-fence critics is exhausting to deal with.
01:05:45.000And God bless people like Eric Metaxas and Rob McCoy and Steve Smotherman and Juergen and James Cadiz, Ken Graves.
01:06:14.000A vertical relationship made in the image of God.
01:06:17.000Consciousness, expression, speech, assembly, private property rights, due process.
01:06:23.000And if anyone who dares lay this accusation not know about William Blackstone or John Locke or Edmund Burke or what Thomas Jefferson actually believed and his legitimate beliefs against slavery, who he thought he thought slavery was a sin, was evil.
01:06:41.000In fact, the first draft of the Declaration of Independence, in his handwriting, he harshly went after King George.
01:06:51.000Thomas Jefferson argued for the abolition of slavery in the Virginia House of Commons.
01:06:55.000The document that Thomas Jefferson did write and publish, the Declaration of Independence, resulted in the abolition of slavery in Vermont in 1777.
01:07:04.000Thomas Jefferson signed a moratorium of importing slaves into America as soon as he took office.
01:07:13.000But most colleges, teachers, and secular leaders won't tell you that.
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