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00:01:47.000 Welcome back, everybody.

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00:01:49.000 Joining us now is Caroline Glick.

00:01:52.000 She's terrific.

00:01:52.000 It's very late in Israel right now.

00:01:54.000 So we are thankful for her joining the program.

00:01:56.000 I have many friends right now in Israel right now helping in a variety of different ways.

00:01:59.000 Caroline, please, for Americans that turn off their phones over Christmas break and New Year's, haven't been as far into the weeds, what is the latest in the military operation in Gaza going after the Hamas terrorists?

00:02:12.000 Give us an update.

00:02:13.000 Let's just kind of wind back the clock over the last three weeks.

00:02:16.000 What has been accomplished?

00:02:17.000 Where do things stand?

00:02:18.000 Okay, so it's great to be back on your show, Charlie.

00:02:22.000 So Gaza is roughly divided into three areas: northern Gaza, which is where Israel's focus of effort was at the outset of the ground operation about six weeks ago.

00:02:32.000 And then central and southern Gaza.

00:02:36.000 And in the north, Israel's taken over above ground over 80% or so of the territory.

00:02:43.000 But we're facing a guerrilla war there because there are still apparently quite a lot of terrorists who are operating underground.

00:02:49.000 They're no longer directly confronting our forces.

00:02:52.000 They're just trying to hold up underground there.

00:02:56.000 But you're seeing less fighting in recent days.

00:02:59.000 And Israel has been concentrating a lot on destroying the infrastructure there so that they won't be able to operate as freely.

00:03:06.000 And the focus of effort right now is in central Gaza and also, and mainly, in fact, in southern Gaza.

00:03:13.000 Right now, it's in the town of Khan Yunis, where it's believed that the majority of the Hamas leadership has moved.

00:03:21.000 And also, you have massive amounts of subterranean tunnels there.

00:03:24.000 And there's concern and assessment that the hostages are also being held in Khan Yunus in the subterranean tunnel complex as human shields.

00:03:36.000 So you're seeing a lot of combat.

00:03:40.000 And our commando units are operating underground inside of the tunnel, both to find and kill the terrorists and also hopefully to find and rescue the hostages.

00:03:54.000 So that's what's going on.

00:03:55.000 And our eyes are now looking towards Rafa, which is the southernmost town in Gaza that abuts the international border with Egypt.

00:04:06.000 And a lot of the weapons that are used by Hamas are imported from abroad through subterranean tunnels that traverse the international border with Egypt. 0.77

00:04:18.000 So it's very important that Israel sees control of the international border, seize control of Rafah.

00:04:24.000 So we're starting softening operations there. 0.77

00:04:27.000 We've been doing that for about a week.

00:04:29.000 And the anticipation is that we'll move towards a larger ground operation in Rafah in the coming days or perhaps next week.

00:04:40.000 And finally, we've developed a humanitarian area where you have the bulk of the Gazans who have fled their homes and the battles in northern Gaza that is closer to the western edge of Gaza where Israel, where the border with Israel is.

00:04:59.000 And so you have a lot of aid going in there.

00:05:03.000 And that's where the bulk of the civilians are.

00:05:05.000 So how many people are still being held hostage?

00:05:09.000 Again, the lack of clarity on this in the Western media is mind-blowing.

00:05:13.000 There are estimates.

00:05:14.000 How many people are still being held hostage by Hamas?

00:05:18.000 I think that the latest assessment was 129.

00:05:21.000 Hamas has killed 30 hostages in captivity.

00:05:28.000 And so that's what we know: that there are 129 assessed live terrorists still in Gaza.

00:05:35.000 I mean, it's a shocking number.

00:05:37.000 And there are still some Americans, I believe, also, just for our American audience.

00:05:41.000 Is that correct?

00:05:42.000 So the.

00:05:44.000 It is correct. 0.79

00:05:45.000 There were two American hostages that were executed.

00:05:48.000 Executed.

00:05:48.000 And this is what some people say, oh, you know, America, what is America's role?

00:05:52.000 Hold on, they have American citizens.

00:05:54.000 They're killing American citizens. 1.00

00:05:55.000 So they're American passport holders. 1.00

00:05:57.000 That's a red line for me.

00:05:59.000 So the operation seems, I hate to use this word, Carolyn, because it's war.

00:06:04.000 But it seems like it's going okay as far as from an IDF standpoint, I mean, or going well as far as hitting goals, hitting benchmarks.

00:06:13.000 It seems to be a little bit of a waiting game for these savages to come out of their tunnels, right? 0.77

00:06:19.000 Wait for them to come out of the tunnels.

00:06:21.000 Is that a fair assessment of where things stand currently?

00:06:25.000 To a certain degree, it's an exercise in frustration, though, on some level, because the best way, the fastest way, and the way that's least dangerous both for civilians in Gaza and also for our forces to force them out of the tunnel is to not resupply them.

00:06:43.000 But the U.S. demand for humanitarian assistance to Gaza is essentially just an American demand that Israel resupply Hamas because Hamas controls the humanitarian assistance.

00:06:57.000 That humanitarian assistance is distributed in Gaza through a UN organization called UNRWA. 0.65

00:07:05.000 And they are completely controlled by Hamas.

00:07:08.000 Gazans on the ground have told IDF officers that all of the regional directors of UNRWA are Hamas terrorists.

00:07:16.000 All of the people on the ground working for UNRWA for the aid are Hamas terrorists.

00:07:21.000 This was known beforehand, and it was known by the United States as well, but everybody's in denial about it.

00:07:27.000 And so we have a situation where operating under the UN flag, Hamas terrorists are getting all of the international humanitarian assistance going to Gaza at the demand of the United States towards Israel.

00:07:42.000 And they're handing out the food, the water, and most importantly, the fuel to themselves first, second to their loyalists, and only third, if at all, to the civilians in Gaza who are not aligned with Hamas.

00:07:56.000 So the people who are supposed to be first online to get assistance, the ones who are not aligned with Hamas, are the last ones to get it, if at all, under the current situation.

00:08:06.000 And really, the way to help those civilians and alleviate their suffering is to allow them to leave Gaza.

00:08:12.000 And that's a position that the United States completely opposes.

00:08:15.000 So it's a very strange U.S. policy, but it makes it impossible for Israel to lay siege to the tunnels, which is what you have to do.

00:08:24.000 They would all have to come up if they didn't have air, but they have air because they're able to operate their generators through the fuel that they're receiving at the insistence of the U.S. government.

00:08:35.000 It's a very strange situation.

00:08:36.000 So, yeah, that's really helpful.

00:08:39.000 So, America, in some ways, is playing both sides.

00:08:41.000 I mean, obviously, helping Israel in some capacity, but then they're only prolonging the war.

00:08:47.000 Is that fair to say that the American government is either intentionally or unintentionally prolonging this conflict?

00:08:52.000 Because without fuel for generators, you come out of the tunnels, this thing ends quicker than not.

00:08:58.000 So, American taxpayer dollars is making the war longer than it needs to be.

00:09:04.000 It's very strange, and it's very frustrating because, again, what we're seeing more and more is that the tunnel that is that the terrorists are just holding up in the tunnels.

00:09:16.000 And then that's forcing IDF forces to go down into the tunnels, which is extremely dangerous because obviously they know what's in the tunnels and our commandos don't.

00:09:27.000 So, we're at a tremendous tactical disadvantage in being forced to fight inside the tunnels.

00:09:33.000 And it's something that shouldn't happen.

00:09:34.000 And under normal circumstances, when you're dealing with tunnel warfare, every military organization that I've heard of, their goal is obviously to try to force these terrorists above ground.

00:09:46.000 And that ought to be as well the position of the U.S. government.

00:09:51.000 But since the government of the United States is insisting on resupplying Hamas, including with the fuel, it's making it very difficult, if not impossible, to lay siege to these tunnels, especially.

00:10:02.000 We don't even know where all of them open up from, so that you can't just block them off because we're still finding them. 0.85

00:10:11.000 They're in every house.

00:10:12.000 And by the way, going back to the UN, every single UN installation that our troops have entered in Gaza are used either for firing missiles or as the entrances and exits from tunnels. 0.79

00:10:26.000 So that these are all part of Hamas's terror infrastructure in Gaza. 0.68

00:10:32.000 They are integral parts of Hamas's terrorist infrastructure.

00:10:36.000 So is that fair to say that these quote-unquote UN peacekeepers knowingly then have that their bases of operation are being used for warfare?

00:10:43.000 That's against the UN's charter, isn't it?

00:10:46.000 The UN, by definition, is supposed to be a peacekeeping operation, not subsidizing rocket launching.

00:10:52.000 That's unbelievable.

00:10:55.000 Right.

00:10:55.000 And it's more than that.

00:10:56.000 We also had a teacher at a UN school who was one of the people who was holding the hostages who were released in the hostages for terrorists deal that Israel undertook with Hamas in November.

00:11:13.000 So that it's not just that, it's also that we've had in at least one case, a UN worker who was committing a war crime, a crime against humanity.

00:11:22.000 Not only was he holding hostages, but he was starving them the entire time that he was holding them in captivity in his attic.

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00:12:51.000 Carolyn, we're cheering for Israel and want to see Israel get to victory.

00:12:55.000 Phil in our audience that is not as kind of, let's just say, up to date on the geopolitics.

00:13:00.000 There was a news story of a drone strike in, I believe, Lebanon against a Hezbollah official.

00:13:06.000 Is that right?

00:13:07.000 Phyllis in here. 0.98

00:13:08.000 No, actually, Hamas.

00:13:10.000 Hamas has, you know, they're part of the Iranian network, right?

00:13:16.000 And so they're a full-fledged Iranian proxy.

00:13:20.000 And so is Hezbollah. 0.60

00:13:21.000 I mean, Iran controls Syria through the Assad regime, which is just a puppet of Iran. 0.75

00:13:27.000 And the same thing, Iran has an Lebanese foreign legion. 0.68

00:13:31.000 It's called Hezbollah.

00:13:32.000 And Hezbollah controls Lebanon. 0.83

00:13:34.000 All aspects of the state of Lebanon are answerable to Hezbollah and Hezbollah alone because they're the most powerful group in Lebanon.

00:13:43.000 And so Hamas became a full-fledged Iranian proxy a couple of years ago.

00:13:50.000 And the man who led Hamas into the Iranian nexus is number two in Hamas's pecking order, a man named Salikhal al-Aruri, who was in charge of all of Hamas operations also in Judea and Samaria, the west bank of the Jordan River. 0.61

00:14:11.000 And so he had this, he was a strategist of Hamas, and he was the reason why Hamas is a full partner with Hezbollah and an underling of Iran today.

00:14:24.000 And so he was living in Lebanon, which is basically like living in Iran, but they speak Arabic there, along with many other senior Hamas officials.

00:14:37.000 And he was killed by a drone strike that shot three missiles into Hamas's operational headquarters in Beirut in the Dahia quarter of Beirut, which is the area where Hezbollah also has its headquarters located.

00:14:53.000 So it was a Hamas target that was hit in sort of the heart of Hezbollah in Beirut.

00:15:02.000 And so it was not a Hezbollah target.

00:15:05.000 Thank you for clarifying.

00:15:06.000 It was a Hamas target.

00:15:07.000 Yeah, in some ways, no, thank you. 0.52

00:15:08.000 And I had my wires crossed, but in some ways, is it also a message to Hezbollah? 0.97

00:15:12.000 Like, hey, don't engage yourself. 0.99

00:15:16.000 Don't, you know, you might be next. 0.54

00:15:18.000 Or is there, is this just straight after Hamas still involved in the military operation?

00:15:22.000 And I mean, I'm just estimating it's hundreds of miles from Gaza, right?

00:15:25.000 I mean, Beirut is about central Lebanon.

00:15:28.000 So this guy was, was he seeking refuge in Beirut?

00:15:33.000 Is that what he was doing?

00:15:33.000 He was trying to flee, essentially, or is he always based out of Beirut?

00:15:37.000 He's been living in Beirut for over a year.

00:15:41.000 He travels.

00:15:43.000 Hamas has operational headquarters in Gaza, obviously, but also in Qatar, in Turkey, and in Lebanon.

00:15:52.000 So they have operational headquarters, fundraising headquarters in those three countries, as well as their operational headquarters where they run the regime in Gaza.

00:16:07.000 So Hamas is really a regional terror group, not just a local one.

00:16:14.000 So final question here, Caroline, just fill us in on the Supreme Court.

00:16:18.000 A lot of reporting on this, kind of hard to track.

00:16:20.000 What is your take on first what the Israeli Supreme Court did and the ramifications?

00:16:25.000 So, you know, for the year preceding the Hamas invasion on October 7th, Israeli society was riven by unprecedented division because we have a Supreme Court which makes activist justices in the United States look like the most conservative Antonin Scalia wannabes you've ever met.

00:16:45.000 Our justices in our Supreme Court are literally judicial dictators.

00:16:51.000 And so this has been a cause that I've been fighting for against, against this activist judges in Israel for 30 years, okay?

00:17:00.000 And over the ensuing decades, because they started what they've referred to as a judicial revolution in 1992, and they started seizing more and more of the powers of our parliament, the Knesset, and of our government through judicial fiat, through a series of very radical judgments that they ran.

00:17:19.000 And so when the current Netanyahu government came into office a year ago, they were elected on a platform of judicial reform, the goal of which was to reduce the power of the court, to restore it to its legal position as a co-equal branch of government.

00:17:35.000 And that caused the left to just go nuts because they are able to control policymaking and lawmaking through these radical justices, which under the Israeli crazy system actually select themselves.

00:17:48.000 So this is something that you don't want to see in America.

00:17:51.000 And so we had this huge fight between the branches of government and the political left in Israel was rioting and calling for civil war and actually undertaking acts of political violence to tear the society apart.

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00:19:16.000 The plagiarism scandal at Harvard gets even more interesting because who was gay plagiarizing, plagiarizing someone who I have a great deal of respect for and someone that I'm honored to call a friend, Dr. Carol Swain joins us now. 0.58

00:19:32.000 Dr. Swain, welcome back to the program. 0.97

00:19:35.000 Walk us through all the facts here.

00:19:36.000 The president of Harvard plagiarized your work?

00:19:39.000 Is that right?

00:19:41.000 Well, my work was among the works of a number of people.

00:19:45.000 In fact, there were two instances in her dissertation where she stole language from my book, Black Faces, Black Interests: The Representation of African Americans in Congress.

00:19:59.000 And that book was published in 1993, updated in 1995.

00:20:04.000 It won three national prizes and was cited by the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:20:10.000 It was considered path-breaking the seminal work in the area of Black congressional representation.

00:20:17.000 And I have read Claudine Gay's dissertation and several of her articles.

00:20:24.000 And my contention is that, in addition to the verbatim lifting of language, that my ideas are riddled throughout her articles and they're not dealt with in an intellectually honest manner.

00:20:40.000 So I am upset because traditionally, when you're doing scholarship, you do literature reviews, you engage the seminal work in the area, you cite the seminal work in the area.

00:20:52.000 The way she handled my work was irresponsible. 1.00

00:20:56.000 So that's part of why I believe she should be held accountable.

00:21:00.000 But even if she's just a bad scholar, a sloppy scholar, all that means is that she doesn't belong at Harvard or any tier one institution.

00:21:11.000 In fact, a community college probably would not hire a professor who engaged in serial plagiarism.

00:21:21.000 Yeah, and so, but the sick part of the story, Dr. Swain, is she keeps her $900,000 a year salary and she stays on faculty. 1.00

00:21:31.000 So she just doesn't really, it's not even a demotion.

00:21:35.000 It's just kind of like.

00:21:36.000 No, no, no.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, please.

00:21:39.000 She's not being held accountable at all.

00:21:42.000 And can you imagine what she will be teaching students at Harvard?

00:21:46.000 Because her letter of resignation was totally divorced from reality.

00:21:51.000 There was no acknowledgement of the plagiarism.

00:21:55.000 She blames racism.

00:21:57.000 They totally ignore me.

00:21:59.000 I'm the only, I'm not the only black person she plagiarized from.

00:22:03.000 I'm the only one that's saying it's unacceptable.

00:22:07.000 Yes.

00:22:08.000 So just fill our audience in.

00:22:10.000 In an academic context, what does being held accountable look like?

00:22:14.000 And Dr. Swain, I'll say something.

00:22:17.000 If she was a white male who was found to be plagiarized, how would that white male typically be held accountable in an academic context?

00:22:28.000 I mean, even black people up until Claudine Gay, whether you were black or white, anyone caught plagiarizing in a high-profile position would be held accountable.

00:22:39.000 But then we had these instances involving white journalists and writers that on the Democrat side that were caught plagiarizing books and they did not pay a high price. 0.56

00:22:53.000 So on the Democrat side, there's some plagiarism that they tolerate.

00:22:58.000 But usually in academia, if you plagiarize your dissertation and that's found out to be the case, you're not going to get your doctorate on the basis of a plagiarized dissertation.

00:23:11.000 So I really question whether or not she's Dr. Gay.

00:23:14.000 And then when it comes to the articles that she presented for tenure, those articles were riddled with plagiarized portions from other people's work.

00:23:25.000 Even if she had not plagiarized her articles, her record would not warrant tenure at the Ivy League.

00:23:32.000 So, I have a lot, you know, that Harvard has become a joke, and they're lowering academic standards.

00:23:40.000 They're part of the race to the bottom.

00:23:43.000 And it is the only good thing about this, there's always a silver lining to everything, is that we know now that we should never ever look towards Harvard University for Supreme Court justices, for people that we want in high positions of authority, because we know that for the most part, those people have been indoctrinated.

00:24:06.000 They don't know up from down.

00:24:07.000 They don't know right from wrong.

00:24:09.000 They're not fit to be leaders.

00:24:12.000 Boy, I could not agree more.

00:24:14.000 Talk about your book, Dr. Swain, because it fits in. 0.72

00:24:18.000 The book is called The Adversity of Diversity.

00:24:21.000 And let me read from page seven.

00:24:23.000 Here's the stark truth about DEI: diversity programs and those who enacted them have generally failed to make their workplaces more diverse, even while pandering to minorities and alienating whites.

00:24:35.000 How does this fit into the Harvard story? 0.82

00:24:39.000 I mean, Harvard is destroying its brand, if it wasn't already destroyed, by standing behind Claudine Gay.

00:24:47.000 And what they're doing that's harming higher education is that they're willing to try to redefine plagiarism to save this woman. 0.72

00:24:56.000 And it's all because she's black, but not just because she's black.

00:25:00.000 She is a product of the best schools in America.

00:25:04.000 She didn't come from some inner-city black school.

00:25:07.000 She went to Phillips Exeter Academy, one of the leading boarding schools in America.

00:25:13.000 Her parents are wealthy.

00:25:14.000 She has a degree from Stanford University undergraduate degree.

00:25:19.000 She won a prize for her senior thesis.

00:25:23.000 And I've been trying to get journalists to get a copy of that senior thesis and check it out.

00:25:28.000 Because if a person plagiarizes to the extent that she does, it didn't just happen.

00:25:34.000 She's probably been doing it all of her life.

00:25:37.000 And so with DEI, there's so much emphasis on group identity and virtue signaling.

00:25:44.000 And they've totally divorced qualifications for the job from the demand to have people identify and represent certain groups.

00:25:56.000 And you see that with the Biden administration.

00:25:58.000 The Biden administration is filled with people representing groups, LGBTQ, as well as women and racial and ethnic minorities.

00:26:08.000 They're less concerned with whether or not these people are actually qualified.

00:26:12.000 To me, it's very insulting to the qualified members of those groups who worked very hard to accomplish things that their accomplishments are diminished by the fact that the racism so prevalent among Democrats, the real racism is that they don't have a problem with that.

00:26:33.000 They think that they can stick any racial, political, or sexual minority into a position and that qualifications don't matter.

00:26:45.000 I think that is beautifully said.

00:26:46.000 I want to play a piece of tape here and help us understand what she means by equity. 0.97

00:26:52.000 Let's play cut 20, please.

00:26:54.000 So look, the president has always, always put equity at the center of every policy he's put forward, every legislation that he's put forward, because we understand that many communities have been left behind, have been left behind.

00:27:08.000 We're not trying to do the trickle-down economics.

00:27:12.000 Your reaction, Dr. Swain, to Corrine Jean-Pierre and this idea of equity.

00:27:18.000 First of all, young people like her, it pains my heart.

00:27:23.000 As a person who spent most of a large part of my life in higher education, these young people, many of them racial and ethnic minorities, have been totally indoctrinated. 0.99

00:27:35.000 They can't think themselves out of a brown paper bag.

00:27:39.000 And with her, equity is about equal outcomes.

00:27:42.000 The era that I grew up in and previously the people that came before me, like Bob Woodson, What we wanted was equal opportunity.

00:27:54.000 We just wanted to get our feet in the door.

00:27:56.000 And so when the 1964 Civil Rights Act passed that prohibited discrimination on the basis of race, sex, national origin, and religion, that was like a godsend.

00:28:08.000 It opened so many doors for people and it made it possible for us to get our feet in the door.

00:28:15.000 Equal opportunity, non-discrimination.

00:28:18.000 There was a search for talented minorities.

00:28:22.000 And so we benefited from that.

00:28:23.000 But once you got your feet in the door, you had to prove yourself. 0.90

00:28:27.000 Not this generation.

00:28:29.000 Equity means equal outcomes.

00:28:31.000 You can just show up, have a chip on your shoulder, and you get slid into positions just because you belong to the right group and you can claim victim status.

00:28:41.000 If I had relied on victim status, I'd still be in poverty in southwestern Virginia.

00:28:48.000 That's a great point.

00:28:49.000 I want just about two minutes, Dr. Swain.

00:28:52.000 Imagine you being a student now, back where, and your accomplishments academically are amazing.

00:28:58.000 It's impressive.

00:29:00.000 It's just awesome.

00:29:01.000 But imagine if you were told from a young age, everything is racist.

00:29:07.000 You get extra points because of the color of your skin.

00:29:09.000 Do you think you would have had the same career that you've enjoyed?

00:29:12.000 Probably not.

00:29:13.000 And I can tell you that we, I grew up in dire poverty with eventually 11 siblings.

00:29:21.000 And my mother's message never was that because we were black, what we couldn't do.

00:29:28.000 And she had high expectations.

00:29:30.000 And I can remember if my older sister and I, we tend to make A's even when we weren't going to school.

00:29:36.000 We came home with a report card of A's.

00:29:38.000 She just thought that was normal until she had other children. 0.76

00:29:42.000 And so she had high expectations.

00:29:46.000 And I grew up at a time when we believed in the American dream.

00:29:50.000 We were taught that if you worked hard and got an education, you could make something out of yourself.

00:29:58.000 The emphasis was on you can make something out of yourself.

00:30:02.000 Now young people are told that because of the color of their skin or their sexual orientation or their poverty status, that they are victim and that someone else is to blame.

00:30:13.000 And the someone else tends to be white people who are considered privileged regardless of where they grow up.

00:30:21.000 Even if they grew up in Appalachia and they live in a shack and no one finished the third grade, because of their white skin, they're told that they're more privileged than the offspring of a black billionaire or millionaire. 0.97

00:30:36.000 It's ludicrous and it harms Americans. 0.98

00:30:39.000 It does. 0.99

00:30:40.000 The adversity of diversity.

00:30:41.000 Check out her book.

00:30:42.000 Email is freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:47.000 Okay, Kirk fans, I need you to stop and pay attention to this.

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00:32:42.000 Dr. Carol Swain continues with us.

00:32:45.000 So, Dr. Swain, how do we best defeat the DEI beast?

00:32:51.000 What should our plan of action be to push back against diversity, equity, inclusion?

00:32:57.000 What I argue for in my book, The Adversity of Diversity, is for people to know their civil rights.

00:33:04.000 That all persons, which includes white people, are protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

00:33:13.000 And men are protected as well as women.

00:33:16.000 And men face a great deal of discrimination just because they happen to be male.

00:33:22.000 It's important for all Americans to know their civil rights under the law and also that they are protected by the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

00:33:32.000 And racial and ethnic minorities are very experienced with documenting discrimination.

00:33:38.000 I think it's important that white people learn their rights, but also to document when they are being told things that violate the law or when they're being asked to do things that are in violation of the law.

00:33:51.000 Or if someone tells them directly that because you are white or because you are male or because you are Christian, you can't do XYZ. 0.62

00:34:01.000 You need to know your rights under the law and push back, file lawsuits.

00:34:05.000 Companies understand lawsuits.

00:34:07.000 That's how the white woman who was discriminated against by Starbucks was able to win a $25 million settlement.

00:34:17.000 It was because she pushed back.

00:34:19.000 And many cases are being settled.

00:34:21.000 They're not even going to court.

00:34:23.000 And there are some public interest law firms that are taking civil rights cases.

00:34:28.000 So your argument then is to use the Civil Rights Act and to challenge some of this anti-white racism, essentially, that we're seeing in our country.

00:34:38.000 Is that I'm saying we should use the laws of the land to our benefit.

00:34:44.000 And that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and then there are many local governments that have civil rights regulations, that those have to be used by everyone.

00:34:57.000 And the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination on the basis of race.

00:35:04.000 It prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex, as well as religion.

00:35:09.000 In today's culture, we find that men are discriminated against often because they are male.

00:35:18.000 And Christians are discriminated against more frequently, as well as whites and Asians.

00:35:25.000 So the Civil Rights Act was not just passed to protect the rights of blacks and Hispanics, but it was passed to protect everyone's rights.

00:35:35.000 And I think a lot of white people are not aware of that.

00:35:38.000 And we also need to know and realize that we have constitutional rights, that every person in the United States is guaranteed equal protection of the laws.

00:35:51.000 And so between the Equal Protection Clause and the Civil Rights Act, there is a recourse for discrimination, but you have to be able to recognize it and document it.

00:36:03.000 Yeah, and that is the question.

00:36:05.000 How do you prove it and how do you end up addressing it?

00:36:08.000 Final question here, Dr. Swain.

00:36:09.000 It's important, in our opinion, on this program, to push back anytime there is disparate outcome, blaming it on discrimination.

00:36:17.000 I think that's one of the most important things we can do as far as pushing back against this idea of systemic racism.

00:36:24.000 How do you respond in a minute to the charges that America is systemically racist?

00:36:29.000 Well, I mean, the disparate impact is a legal concept that has been used to really push a lot of the race-based solutions.

00:36:38.000 I think all that needs to be revisited because it's not the same country that it was 50 or 60 years ago.

00:36:45.000 Whites are minority in many parts of the country. 0.50

00:36:49.000 And what made sense maybe, perhaps it made sense 60 years ago, doesn't make sense today that we need to treat everyone equal under the law.

00:36:58.000 Discrimination is not hard to identify and document because so many people will openly tell white people, Christians, this favored groups, why they're discriminating against them, why they are being excluded.

00:37:14.000 Dr. Carol Swain, you are a hero.

00:37:16.000 And I think in normal, saner times, you should be president of Harvard.

00:37:20.000 But I don't know if you'd want that job.

00:37:22.000 The president of a deep anti-racist racism deep state, but you are deserving of such an honor is what I'm saying.

00:37:29.000 Dr. Swain, God bless you.

00:37:31.000 Thank you so much.

00:37:32.000 Thank you.

00:37:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:35.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 04, 2024

The Woman Claudine Gay Stole From

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