The Charlie Kirk Show - July 13, 2023


The Wrath of Wray with Matt Gaetz


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Who runs the country? Is it the administrative state, or is it the people? Charlie and Matt Gates explore this civilization-altering question in the latest episode of The Charlie Kirk Show on the CharlieKirk Show.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000 Who runs the country?
00:00:03.000 Is it the administrative state or is it the people?
00:00:05.000 We ask that question.
00:00:06.000 Matt Gates joins us to help explore this civilization-altering question.
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00:00:31.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:32.000 Here we go.
00:00:33.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:35.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:37.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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00:00:44.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:45.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:46.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
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00:01:16.000 Who runs the country?
00:01:18.000 Do the people run the government or do the government largely run the people?
00:01:22.000 The American founders established a system.
00:01:24.000 They established a form of government.
00:01:27.000 There should be three branches.
00:01:28.000 They should check and balance one another.
00:01:31.000 The complaints laid out in the Declaration of Independence that we celebrated on July 4th were largely addressed and solved at the ratification of the Constitution.
00:01:41.000 The Constitution did not come ex nihilo.
00:01:43.000 It did not come out of nothing.
00:01:45.000 It came through an English constitutional republic tradition.
00:01:49.000 It came from Roman Republican influences.
00:01:52.000 It came through the study of the classics.
00:01:54.000 It came through an understanding of what is a human being, how are we to interact with one another?
00:02:00.000 Biblical principles.
00:02:01.000 The Constitution understood that your rights do not come from government.
00:02:05.000 Your rights are given to you by God or your creator.
00:02:09.000 It says very clearly in the Declaration, the laws of nature and nature is God.
00:02:14.000 God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.
00:02:18.000 The Constitution understood that there must be first and foremost rules for government, not rules for people.
00:02:24.000 In fact, it said a government shall not be able to shut you up, shall not be able to take weapons, shall not put soldiers in your home, shall not be able to spy on you, shall not be able to detain you indefinitely without a speedy trial.
00:02:37.000 The United States Constitution and the following Bill of Rights that was ratified in 1791 was the great leap forward in self-government.
00:02:44.000 That all changed with Woodrow Wilson.
00:02:46.000 Woodrow Wilson, one of America's worst presidents, an evil, maniacal man, who actually, his wife, was largely running the White House towards the end of his presidency, former college professor and former president of Princeton University and governor of New Jersey, basically the accidental president who became president in 1912 when Teddy Roosevelt decided to run the Bullmoose Party and primary William Howard Taft, running three parties and Woodrow Wilson won with a plurality, not a majority of votes.
00:03:14.000 Woodrow Wilson threw away the Constitution, the promise of the founders.
00:03:17.000 He said, we're more advanced than this.
00:03:19.000 Blake, can you find that exact quote from Woodrow Wilson?
00:03:22.000 He was more eloquent than that, but I'm summarizing it rather bluntly.
00:03:25.000 Woodrow Wilson basically said, we know what we want.
00:03:28.000 Why do we need all these checks and balances?
00:03:30.000 That government should work like a machine. 0.79
00:03:33.000 It should work administratively.
00:03:35.000 And with that, he birthed the bureaucracies, the desk workers, the administrative state.
00:03:42.000 Now, America was a very free country back then.
00:03:45.000 And you can make a lot of arguments.
00:03:46.000 Well, we needed a Department of Labor and we need Department of this and Department of that.
00:03:51.000 And the entrepreneurs, the creators, the risk takers soon became outnumbered by the desk workers.
00:04:02.000 The administrative state, the deep state, was exploded under Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
00:04:08.000 Woodrow Wilson said, quote, the Constitution was founded on the law of gravitation.
00:04:12.000 The government was to exist and move by virtue of efficacy of checks and balances.
00:04:16.000 The trouble with the theory is that government is not a machine, but a living thing.
00:04:20.000 No living thing can have its organs offset against each other as checks and live.
00:04:25.000 Woodrow Wilson made the argument, this idea of checks and balances, the tension, the slow, arduous process of government.
00:04:31.000 We need no more of that.
00:04:32.000 We need the harmony of government.
00:04:34.000 And thus a fourth branch was born in defiance, a middle finger to Madison, John Jay, and Hamilton.
00:04:41.000 Woodrow Wilson expanded the administrative state.
00:04:44.000 And the administrative state was involved in displacing presidents.
00:04:47.000 According to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the administrative state killed JFK.
00:04:51.000 The administrative state took out Richard Nixon.
00:04:53.000 The administrative state controlled Reagan in some sense, controlled H.W. Bush.
00:04:58.000 H.W. Bush was actually a product of the administrative state.
00:05:01.000 He ran the CIA before he became vice president, then president.
00:05:04.000 Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, did whatever the administrative state wanted.
00:05:08.000 Barack Obama quickly learned a lesson.
00:05:09.000 You know, he ran a very populist campaign.
00:05:11.000 We're going to reform government.
00:05:13.000 We're going to restore power to the people.
00:05:15.000 And Obama made a very quick realization.
00:05:20.000 I'm not going to war with this.
00:05:21.000 I want to last all eight years, and I want a Netflix deal.
00:05:24.000 And I don't want to get shot in a convertible.
00:05:27.000 And I don't want to be removed from office like Richard Nixon.
00:05:30.000 What do you want, admin state?
00:05:32.000 And I will do as you wish.
00:05:34.000 The one president who decided to wage war on the administrative state was Donald Trump.
00:05:38.000 He ran against it.
00:05:39.000 He said he was going to drain the swamp.
00:05:41.000 He wasn't going to put up with it.
00:05:42.000 Donald Trump built things in his life for 40 years in New York City, big buildings, saved Central Park, saved Woman Rink, the New York Convention Center.
00:05:52.000 And so the administrative state for him, it didn't make sense.
00:05:54.000 He said, where is this in the Constitution?
00:05:55.000 It's getting in the way of self-government.
00:05:57.000 And then, of course, Chuck Schumer, the clip that we've played many times on this program that we might play again, comes out and he said, for a very shrewd businessman, he's being really dumb because the CIA has six ways from Sunday to get back at you.
00:06:12.000 Now, the administrative state, you can call it the deep state, you can call it the shadow government.
00:06:16.000 They outnumber the people's representation.
00:06:20.000 Congress is supposed to be the people's representation in D.C., and we don't do a very good job of it, but we're doing better.
00:06:27.000 We gave the House Republicans a majority.
00:06:29.000 We have some great fighters there.
00:06:31.000 We have Thomas Massey, who does a good job against the administrative state.
00:06:35.000 Lauren Boebert, Matt Gates, who's terrific, who's going to join us in a little bit.
00:06:39.000 If an unelected bureaucracy has any power at all to take out our actual elected and appointed members of government, they are too powerful, and it's against the promise of representative government.
00:06:49.000 Yesterday, Christopher Wray testified, and something quite rare happened.
00:06:54.000 In real time, you saw representative government versus administrative government collide.
00:07:01.000 And it was so clear who actually runs this country.
00:07:04.000 It is clear that we are no longer a country of the sovereign of the people.
00:07:09.000 The new sovereign are the unelected, arrogant, smug members of the plutocracy of the kingdom of Washington, D.C. Christopher Wray believes he's better than you.
00:07:19.000 He's untouchable. 0.74
00:07:20.000 He runs the secret police.
00:07:22.000 He is the head of the Stasi.
00:07:24.000 He can spy on you, warrant you, get you arrested.
00:07:26.000 He flies on Gulf streams at his liking.
00:07:29.000 He's going to outlast any politician.
00:07:31.000 He is a permanent installation of the bureaucracy.
00:07:36.000 Here's Cut 85, Christopher Wray forgetting information, unaware of information, unable to talk about information.
00:07:41.000 Does this strike you as someone who is afraid of congressional oversight?
00:07:47.000 Play Cut 85.
00:07:49.000 Can't remember the dates.
00:07:50.000 Again, I just can't speak to that here.
00:07:52.000 I'm not an expert.
00:07:54.000 I'm not sure yet.
00:07:55.000 I would really have to see more closely.
00:07:57.000 I'm not sure that I can give you that number.
00:07:59.000 I can't get into.
00:08:00.000 I'm not aware of any such evidence.
00:08:02.000 I'm not going to speak to that.
00:08:04.000 I'll decline to comment further.
00:08:06.000 I will work with the department to make sure we can figure out what information we can provide.
00:08:10.000 Again, I'm not going to get into that here.
00:08:12.000 Well, again, I don't want to speculate about it.
00:08:14.000 I can't speak to the specifics.
00:08:17.000 I can't speak to the specifics.
00:08:18.000 The founders' intent was never to have this fourth branch of government.
00:08:22.000 It's totally unnecessary, but it fits a trend, a trend of humanity, that you might have liberty and self-government, but over time, the failure to pass down those values to one generation to the other, the people slip and they slip and they slip and they clamor and they clamor.
00:08:37.000 It's the same trajectory the Hebrews went on in the Old Testament. 0.97
00:08:42.000 Congress's job is oversight and accountability.
00:08:44.000 Ray wants nothing to do with it, but you could just tell he's just like, I'm in charge.
00:08:50.000 He's probably thinking to himself, I have dirt on all of you congressmen.
00:08:54.000 I could arrest all of you.
00:08:55.000 I tried to arrest you, Matt Gates.
00:08:59.000 He believes he is supreme, better than, above, superior.
00:09:06.000 Remember, J. Edgar Hoover luxuriated in that exact same power and hubris.
00:09:11.000 I'm going to play more from the hearing in a second.
00:09:13.000 It's noteworthy because some of our superstars did very well, but Christopher Ray sits atop the throne.
00:09:22.000 The American people don't any longer.
00:09:24.000 So what is on the ballot in 2024?
00:09:28.000 What is at stake in this next election?
00:09:31.000 This won't necessarily resonate with non-political voters, but this is important with repeating.
00:09:38.000 It is a philosophical election of what form of government do you want.
00:09:42.000 If you vote for the American Democrat Party and Joe Biden, you do not believe in self-government.
00:09:47.000 You believe in a permanent oligarchy.
00:09:50.000 You believe in dozens of Christopher Ray's philosopher kings that have outright authority over you.
00:09:57.000 Donald Trump is the only candidate in the race, maybe Vivek Ramaswamy and others.
00:10:02.000 DeSantis has talked a good game on this, to his credit.
00:10:05.000 But there's a reason why he's indicting him.
00:10:06.000 And I'll show you contrast because the traditional Republican view is to cozy up to these intel agencies.
00:10:13.000 They're doing good work.
00:10:14.000 They're keeping us safe.
00:10:15.000 How?
00:10:16.000 Are you guys going after child sex traffickers or are you going after political dissidents?
00:10:21.000 Like before you, I don't know, indict Rudy Giuliani or raid James O'Keefe's home or go after Steve Bannon, why don't you go after the human smugglers that are highlighted in Sound of Freedom?
00:10:33.000 Chris Christie goes on television to defend Christopher Wray.
00:10:37.000 This is the uniparty position.
00:10:39.000 This is the orthodoxy.
00:10:41.000 The FBI is necessary.
00:10:43.000 This is showmanship.
00:10:45.000 Play cut 79.
00:10:47.000 I want to respond to something that Chris Christie said on Fox News earlier today.
00:10:52.000 He said that Christopher Wright delivered extraordinary results.
00:10:56.000 The problem is they're just extraordinarily awful.
00:11:00.000 And like Chris Christie criticized us for engaging in fundraising theater during this committee.
00:11:06.000 And I'm not going to take my notes on fundraising from a guy who was a lobbyist and was snouted down in the lobbyist financial money laundering situation when he was raising money from them as governor of New Jersey.
00:11:19.000 So I'm more likely to take like Chris Christie's exercise plan than I am his fundraising strategy.
00:11:27.000 I think that's Gates on Fox News.
00:11:29.000 By the way, that wasn't the clip.
00:11:31.000 I could tell immediately a person's way too skinny to be Chris Christie, so I could see it right on there.
00:11:36.000 Okay, I think it's 78.
00:11:38.000 I don't know what's going on here.
00:11:39.000 Play cut 78.
00:11:40.000 What you saw today, I think, was an animated and combative FBI director who's defending the men and women who work for him every day and do a great job and protect us from domestic terrorism, from international terrorism, and from these drug cartels and are helping state and local law enforcement every day with their things.
00:11:57.000 So, yeah, I think Chris Ray has done a very good job.
00:12:00.000 And I think, Luke, a lot of the stuff you see today, John, is theater and people trying to raise money for campaigns.
00:12:05.000 Doesn't mean there aren't problems at the FBI.
00:12:07.000 There are.
00:12:08.000 But I believe Chris is a guy who can get them fixed, and he's fixed a lot of them already.
00:12:11.000 Chris Christie represents a Republican vision.
00:12:14.000 Again, he has no political support, but it's there.
00:12:16.000 Donors love this.
00:12:17.000 Some donors love Chris Christie.
00:12:19.000 He's going to raise a ton of money, already has.
00:12:21.000 Which is, we should make friends with the regime.
00:12:24.000 We should cozy up to the Uniparty.
00:12:26.000 Eat me last.
00:12:27.000 I want to get invited to the parties.
00:12:29.000 The administrative state can help me, help me get contracts, help protect me.
00:12:34.000 What form of government do you want?
00:12:38.000 Mike Pence, remember, defended the Department of Justice.
00:12:40.000 Chris Christie defends the Department of Justice and the FBI because they just don't want to get indicted and they want a comfortable life.
00:12:47.000 They want a life that they can feel good.
00:12:49.000 Oh, I'm on the right side of history.
00:12:53.000 So who is sovereign in this country?
00:12:56.000 Founders and the promise of 1776 and 1787 and 1791 is the people are sovereign.
00:13:05.000 That country no longer exists.
00:13:08.000 And you could see it, by the way.
00:13:08.000 We're going to play more and more tape.
00:13:09.000 We have Matt Gates coming up next.
00:13:11.000 Just the smugness, the smugness, the lack of wanting to answer questions.
00:13:15.000 Let me just give you another here.
00:13:16.000 Christopher Wray, asked by pick your fighter.
00:13:22.000 ISA, how many people were there on January 6th?
00:13:24.000 He doesn't need to answer.
00:13:25.000 He doesn't care.
00:13:26.000 He's not afraid of Congress, but Congress is afraid of him.
00:13:30.000 Makes you think how much blackmail Christopher Ray and the FBI has on these members of Congress.
00:13:34.000 Play Cut 67.
00:13:36.000 How many individuals were either FBI employees or people that the FBI had made contact with were in the January 6th entry of the Capitol and surrounding area?
00:13:51.000 So I really need to be careful here talking about where we have or have not used confidential human sources.
00:13:59.000 Was there one or more individuals that would fit that description on January 6th that were in or around the Capitol?
00:14:06.000 I can't, again, I just can't speak to that here.
00:14:09.000 You can't speak to it because I don't work for you, Daryl Issa.
00:14:12.000 I don't work for the people.
00:14:14.000 I'm the king.
00:14:16.000 I run the secret police.
00:14:17.000 Do you know who you're talking to?
00:14:20.000 I'm the guy that gets to put you in jail. 0.98
00:14:23.000 I am the law, silly congressperson that's to deal with elections. 0.96
00:14:30.000 Stop asking me questions or else I might have to indict you, Daryl Issa. 0.81
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00:15:20.000 Joining us now is the terrific Matt Gaetz, who will be joining us at the Turning Point Action Conference, tpaction.com.
00:15:26.000 The administrative state and the DOJ was threatening Matt Gates with prison for a year and a half, two years.
00:15:32.000 Matt Gates never backed down.
00:15:34.000 Matt Gaetz had an opportunity to face down the Leviathan yesterday.
00:15:39.000 Want to play this cut?
00:15:40.000 Then we'll welcome Matt Gates, PlayCut 66.
00:15:43.000 I'm sitting here with my father.
00:15:45.000 I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.
00:15:55.000 I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.
00:16:00.000 Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it, Director?
00:16:04.000 I'm not going to get into commenting on that.
00:16:07.000 You seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you?
00:16:10.000 Almost suspiciously uncurious.
00:16:12.000 Are you protecting the Bidens?
00:16:15.000 Absolutely not.
00:16:16.000 The FBI does not.
00:16:17.000 Oh, hold on, you won't answer the question about whether or not that's a shakedown, and everybody knows why you won't answer it.
00:16:24.000 Matt Gates, your reaction and your response to Christopher Wray. 0.96
00:16:30.000 Yet, interestingly, dumb on the questions that we ask them. 0.97
00:16:36.000 They forget things or they don't have things at their disposal. 0.95
00:16:39.000 And here, I wanted to showcase to the country that Christopher Wray's unwillingness to acknowledge an obvious shakedown in front of the entire country is reflective of what we see at the FBI.
00:16:51.000 They target conservatives, they go after President Trump and anyone who supports him.
00:16:55.000 And then when there's derogatory information that comes in from reliable sources that have helped build dozens of other cases for the FBI, well, they just label all of that foreign interference so that they can continue with the grift.
00:17:09.000 And so the real question, Charlie, is where do we go from here?
00:17:12.000 After we expose the bias and the political capture that's occurred at the FBI, we can't just continue business as usual.
00:17:21.000 That's why in the appropriations process that is coming up in a matter of weeks, we have to take a hatchet to the FBI budget and to the FBI authorities that have been weaponized against the people.
00:17:32.000 Like the Bidens are one thing, but it's the rest of us that they're still coming for.
00:17:37.000 In the period of time that the Inspector General looked at the FBI's surveillance authorities, they were conducting 38 illegal queries every hour.
00:17:49.000 And a judge who reviewed their conduct was particularly aggrieved that they were doing weird personal things, like looking up themselves and their ex-lovers in the process.
00:18:01.000 This is not an FBI anymore that singularly investigates crimes and holds people accountable.
00:18:07.000 They've become the enforcement wing of the Democratic Party politically, and then they've just become unconstitutionally nosy with authorities that we have to constrain under the law.
00:18:18.000 So, Matt, our audience is upset, and they should be.
00:18:21.000 What, if anything, can we do to rein this in?
00:18:24.000 Because, I mean, I watched the Christopher Wrings.
00:18:26.000 He does not feel as if he is accountable to anyone, and certainly not to you.
00:18:31.000 He doesn't have to answer Congress's questions.
00:18:33.000 He doesn't believe that there's a check and balance on his power.
00:18:36.000 He believes he is superior.
00:18:38.000 It's as if a monarch, a divine right of king oligarch, would come down to the peasants and hear questions at some sort of community meeting, all the while having the power of the Praetorian Guard and secret police to put every single one of them in jail.
00:18:52.000 How do we reset constitutional structure and form, Matt?
00:18:56.000 Is it possible?
00:18:57.000 What is the way forward?
00:18:59.000 You're right.
00:18:59.000 And our viewers are right here that there's an arrogance to the tone of Christopher Wray that predominates the entire energy of these exchanges.
00:19:08.000 One thing we have to do is cut off the money because what we've already seen is you can pass all the laws you want.
00:19:13.000 They'll just break them.
00:19:14.000 And they'll do it with impunity, it seems.
00:19:17.000 And so you have to starve them of the resources that they use to hurt people.
00:19:22.000 That is number one.
00:19:24.000 I would go further.
00:19:25.000 I would explicitly target Director Wray and some of the bureaucrats who've done the most egregious things, and I would zero out their salaries.
00:19:32.000 One of the things we fought for in January was a specific rule that allows us to zero out specific bureaucrat salaries.
00:19:39.000 If we don't use that rule regarding the people at the FBI, then that was an unserious endeavor because they deeply deserve it.
00:19:46.000 But I think there's also a potential criminal referral here for Ray to the Department of Justice, which they will, of course, ignore, but I think that highlights the hypocrisy ever more.
00:19:55.000 Christopher Wray that the FBI never investigated parent speech at school board meetings.
00:20:02.000 That was a lie.
00:20:04.000 We had FBI whistleblower Steve Friend give sworn testimony before the committee that he was taken off of child porn cases and exploitation cases, and he was moved to go to a parking lot at a school board meeting and record people's license plate information so that that could be cross-referenced with other databases.
00:20:24.000 Steve Friend, that FBI agent, had previously gone to school board meetings as a parent to express concerns about curriculum.
00:20:32.000 And so he can give that testimony.
00:20:34.000 I think that Director Ray was not honest with us.
00:20:37.000 He also wasn't honest with Senator Lee several years ago when he said that there was none of the FISA spying authority used against people who were in Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
00:20:48.000 A federal judge issued an order essentially saying that that was a lie.
00:20:54.000 So we have repeated lies.
00:20:55.000 If we don't enforce the powers of contempt, if we don't send referrals, even though we know what Eric Garland will do with them, then we are not protecting our Article I powers in the Constitution as the United States Congress.
00:21:07.000 So those are some forward-looking, very aggressive approaches.
00:21:12.000 But I think that the times we're living in and what we're seeing would call for them to be utilized.
00:21:17.000 I want to just play a piece of tape here to reiterate the point.
00:21:20.000 I'm going to play 85 again, play cut 85.
00:21:23.000 I can't remember the dates.
00:21:25.000 Again, I just can't speak to that here.
00:21:27.000 I'm not an expert.
00:21:29.000 I'm not sure yet.
00:21:30.000 I would really have to see more closely.
00:21:32.000 I'm not sure that I can give you that number.
00:21:34.000 I can't get into.
00:21:35.000 I'm not aware of any such evidence.
00:21:37.000 I'm not going to speak to that.
00:21:39.000 I'll decline to comment further.
00:21:41.000 I will work with the department to make sure we can figure out what information we can provide.
00:21:46.000 Again, I'm not going to get into that here.
00:21:47.000 Well, again, I don't want to speculate about it.
00:21:49.000 I can't speak to the specifics.
00:21:52.000 That's a new one, Matt.
00:21:53.000 You know, we should tell the next time the Democrats take the House, anytime they subpoena people on Team America Conservative, we should just tell them to do the, I'm not going to speak to that.
00:22:02.000 Could you imagine under subpoena, you just tell a member of that?
00:22:06.000 That's called you go to jail if you're Steve Bannon and you say, I'm not going to speak to that, Matt Gates.
00:22:11.000 Yeah, there's some selective amnesia there that's pretty apparent.
00:22:15.000 But the one data point that Christopher Wray knew with particularity is he had some comeback to me where he said, well, Mr. Gates, all your criticisms of the FBI are not well-founded because we've seen a big increase in recruiting in the state of Florida.
00:22:29.000 Now, Charlie, you and I both know there are a lot of patriotic Americans that would like to serve in the FBI because they want to fix it.
00:22:36.000 They want it to be better.
00:22:37.000 They want it to be what we originally intended as the premier law enforcement entity in our country, not a political operation.
00:22:44.000 So it's funny that like when you ask Director Ray, how many times has the FISA law been violated while you've been director?
00:22:52.000 He has no idea about those numbers.
00:22:55.000 But then when he thinks it's something to jam me on a rhetorical point, he's got a memory that is quite lucid.
00:23:02.000 So I think that the country saw the absurdity of that.
00:23:05.000 So Matt, can you walk us through?
00:23:07.000 Are you going to lead a coalition to defund the FBI?
00:23:11.000 And what's the likelihood Republicans will go alongside with you?
00:23:15.000 I mean, I think you got to force a vote.
00:23:17.000 Put every Republican on the record, including leadership.
00:23:20.000 Will you defund the federal Bureau of Investigation?
00:23:23.000 Matt Gates.
00:23:24.000 We should defund major portions of it.
00:23:27.000 Obviously, there's crime fighting stuff that's outside of Washington, D.C. that we would want to maintain in some form.
00:23:32.000 But this iteration of the FBI we have now is like a bad dog that's been turned against its owner.
00:23:38.000 And sometimes you've got to put them down, however challenging that may be.
00:23:42.000 I am concerned about the support of some of my fellow Republicans.
00:23:46.000 I've had Republicans say that they will not support reducing the FBI's budget by $1 because they think that they could get attacked for defunding the police.
00:23:57.000 Those Republicans are wrong.
00:23:59.000 They are misguided.
00:24:00.000 And based on the votes we're going to force, they'll be exposed.
00:24:03.000 And I hope that we're able to persuade them to take a different viewpoint before that vote occurs.
00:24:08.000 Yeah, I mean, Matt, what is the so the likelihood is what?
00:24:13.000 I mean, low, is what you're basically telling me.
00:24:15.000 The likelihood is low that the House Republicans will defund this secret police, the Stasi, run by Christopher Wray.
00:24:24.000 Well, they may be slightly higher after yesterday because some of the Republicans who were FBI defenders had to watch Christopher Wray in these absurd exchanges where he was, like you said, on his high horse when responding to Congress.
00:24:39.000 So, again, it's a work in progress.
00:24:42.000 There's work to be done.
00:24:43.000 I would encourage all of your viewers and listeners to share their perspective on FBI and Department of Justice funding with our senators, with their members of Congress.
00:24:51.000 We are in divided government, and so it's not as if what Matt Gates says goes every time.
00:24:56.000 But I'm working to build that coalition.
00:24:58.000 I want to put political pressure on the entire Republican conference to join me in this effort.
00:25:03.000 And if we're not willing to take resources away from this corrupt entity, what are we even doing here?
00:25:09.000 I don't know.
00:25:09.000 I mean, we got this national defense authorization thing coming up, Matt.
00:25:13.000 If there is ever a time to shut down the government, this is the time to shut down the government, if you ask me.
00:25:18.000 Just shut it down, forget it.
00:25:22.000 Matt Gates, you're doing excellent work.
00:25:24.000 Yeah.
00:25:24.000 You know, there's a lot of good in that bill, too.
00:25:26.000 So we'll have to come back sometime and chat about it.
00:25:28.000 Matt, you're going to be here at our Turning Point Action Conference.
00:25:30.000 Let's have you on for a deeper discussion.
00:25:32.000 They try to put you in jail.
00:25:34.000 You never backed down.
00:25:35.000 And now you still are confronting the administrative state.
00:25:38.000 Matt Gates is a courageous man.
00:25:41.000 We had hundreds of Matt Gates in DC.
00:25:44.000 The country turns around.
00:25:46.000 It's that simple.
00:25:46.000 Matt, keep it up.
00:25:47.000 Thanks so much.
00:25:48.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:25:48.000 Look forward to seeing you in Palm Beach.
00:25:50.000 It's going to be a great time.
00:25:51.000 It's going to be terrific.
00:25:54.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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00:26:57.000 Every so often, I'm flipping through the archives of the Rush Limbaugh program and I say, boom, that's perfect.
00:27:03.000 Play cut 88.
00:27:04.000 The media did not make Donald Trump and they can't destroy him.
00:27:09.000 But the media thinks, and when I say media, let me define ABC, CBS, NBC, New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, LA Times, that cadre.
00:27:19.000 They have a formula.
00:27:20.000 They have a blueprint for destroying Republican political officials they don't like.
00:27:24.000 It's not going to work on Trump.
00:27:26.000 He doesn't fit that mold.
00:27:28.000 They're trying to every day.
00:27:29.000 It's kind of comical to watch.
00:27:31.000 I miss Rush.
00:27:33.000 I know many of you as well.
00:27:35.000 They need to take him out because Donald Trump is now pledging the remainder of his life against the administrative state.
00:27:43.000 It is the people versus the administrative state.
00:27:46.000 It is the people versus the Leviathan.
00:27:48.000 I don't care about your politics.
00:27:50.000 I don't care about your stances on tax policy.
00:27:53.000 I don't care if you're a Democrat.
00:27:55.000 Either you're on the people side or you're on the machine side.
00:28:00.000 Choose.
00:28:01.000 That's what 2024 should be all about.
00:28:06.000 You really have to wonder.
00:28:08.000 In fact, you know, if we would have said three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have said that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Katanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the racist.
00:28:25.000 But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us.
00:28:28.000 They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action.
00:28:32.000 Yeah, we know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.
00:28:40.000 You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously. 0.96
00:28:44.000 Play cut 52.
00:28:46.000 But I rise today as a clear recipient of affirmative action, and particularly in higher education.
00:28:54.000 I may have been admitted on affirmative action, both in terms of being a woman and a woman of color, but I can declare that I did not graduate on affirmative action.
00:29:04.000 This is my personal story.
00:29:07.000 I hear because of action, affirmative.
00:29:08.000 She can't even say that.
00:29:14.000 We know.
00:29:16.000 We know it's very obvious to us that you were not smart enough to be able to get in on your own.
00:29:24.000 I couldn't make it on my own, so I needed to take opportunities from someone more deserving.
00:29:28.000 You know, this is how arrogant Joy Reed and Katanji Brown Jackson and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee are. 0.56
00:29:33.000 They're so narcissistic, they think this is persuasive.
00:29:37.000 They think we're like, oh, of course, that's why we need affirmative action because you have impressed us with your brilliance.
00:29:48.000 Of course.
00:29:50.000 Oh, no.
00:29:51.000 Imagine the world without Joy Reed.
00:29:55.000 Imagine the world about Sheila Jackson Lee or Michelle Obama or Katanji Brown Jackson.
00:30:02.000 They think this is persuasive.
00:30:04.000 They think as they kind of now reveal that I'm only here because of anti-white, anti-Asian forced discrimination policies that turn me into a bitter, resentful activist that hates white people, honestly, through our policies.
00:30:19.000 Joy Reed continues.
00:30:21.000 Again, this is just the narcissism embedded in this.
00:30:25.000 This is a separate topic, but it's affirmative action, Joy Reid, play cut 40.
00:30:29.000 Twitter might be on the slow road to obscurity as Mark Zuckerberg's rival app Threads has surpassed 100 million users in only five days.
00:30:38.000 Meanwhile, Twitter users are mostly left with a ranting and raving Elon Musk and lots and lots of racists.
00:30:43.000 You have neo-Nazi Richard Spencer allowed to host Twitter spaces.
00:30:46.000 It's just one example of Twitter failing to regulate hate speech from their dues paying blue checks, who are also spreading misinformation with a new report showing that blue checks are fueling disinformation about the Ukraine war.
00:30:58.000 Twitter now is useless to me.
00:31:00.000 If people like me are leaving, I don't know how Twitter survives.
00:31:04.000 If people like me that are where we are because of affirmative action, how could they survive?
00:31:09.000 These people think so highly of themselves. 1.00
00:31:12.000 Joy Reed is without a doubt the dumbest narcissist on television. 0.98
00:31:17.000 And by the way, none of them believe in affirmative action. 1.00
00:31:20.000 You're trying to tell me if Sheila Jackson Lee.
00:31:22.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard flight 781 with non-stop service from Houston, Texas to Washington Reagan National Airport.
00:31:33.000 I want to tell you that we have Sheila Jackson Lee on board.
00:31:36.000 And in the spirit of affirmative action, we have Ramon and Cadillac are your two pilots.
00:31:41.000 They've never flown before, but they are black.
00:31:44.000 Sheila Jackson Lee would be like, forget it, I'm off this plane.
00:31:47.000 She would jump like, I ain't flying here.
00:31:51.000 They don't believe it. 0.92
00:31:53.000 Yeah, Andrew, but Ramon and Cadillac did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, and they're black. 0.93
00:32:00.000 Who cares? 0.61
00:32:01.000 I don't care the color of the skin of the pilot.
00:32:03.000 I care, are you there because you earned it?
00:32:07.000 My favorite word in the English language is earn.
00:32:12.000 We should not give people things they did not earn.
00:32:14.000 If you can't play in the game, then find another game to play.
00:32:19.000 America needs to be a country that pursues excellence, not rewards, mediocrity, to appease the clamorings of an activist class.
00:32:30.000 And they don't even believe it. 0.80
00:32:31.000 When Joy Reed ever goes to get surgery, she's not going to be like, oh, I'm so glad I have a black surgeon. 1.00
00:32:36.000 She would want the best surgeon. 1.00
00:32:38.000 They don't even believe their own crap. 0.99
00:32:39.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody. 0.99
00:32:41.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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