The Charlie Kirk Show - There Is No Moral Equivalency Between Left and Right

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00:01:08.000 Alright, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 Executive producer Andrew Colbitt here with Mikey McCoy.

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00:01:16.000 We're really excited about this next interview with a dear friend of ours, dear friend of the show, and just a great patriot.

00:01:22.000 That'd be Mike Cernovich.

00:01:24.000 Mike, welcome to the show, my friend.

00:01:26.000 Thank you.

00:01:27.000 Yeah.

00:01:27.000 You put out a tweet this uh weekend in regards to the No Kings protest that I I thought 10 out of 10, one of the top thoughts that I saw floating around.

00:01:38.000 So go ahead and put up uh 79.

00:01:40.000 You said they get to hold their protests without a care in the world.

00:01:44.000 No snipers on buildings shooting at them, no masked thugs attacking them, every media outlet fawning over them.

00:01:52.000 Irony levels fit for a king.

00:01:54.000 Mike, tell us what uh you were thinking there.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, well, what what prompted that thinking was the we take it for granted if you're a conservative or right wing, we take it for granted that we live a completely different life.

00:02:08.000 Not not to use too much language of therapy, but the trauma is so baked in that we don't realize that it's not normal.

00:02:15.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:02:16.000 I want to have an event immediately.

00:02:18.000 I think is the venue gonna cancel?

00:02:20.000 Are people gonna call in threats?

00:02:22.000 Let I need to talk to the venue owner first and brief him or her on this.

00:02:26.000 Okay, we need armed security.

00:02:28.000 Okay, where are people gonna come in?

00:02:29.000 Where and that's not normal, right?

00:02:34.000 That's not normal.

00:02:34.000 That's not how you're supposed to have to live in a so-called free and democratic society.

00:02:41.000 And the people who make it so that we have to live like this, meanwhile, they they get to walk around.

00:02:46.000 Uh uh, I remember there was a scavenger hunt that Mandari, the guy running for New York City mayor, he had a scavenger hunting.

00:02:54.000 Cassandra Fairbanks uh posted, tweeted out, wow, this is really cool.

00:02:58.000 I wish the right did stuff like this.

00:03:00.000 And that's when I was shaken out shaken out of the trauma that we all have to live under.

00:03:06.000 And I go, we we couldn't.

00:03:08.000 Could you imagine if you wanted to hold a Charlie Kirk scavenger hunt in in Phoenix, Arizona, even Phoenix?

00:03:14.000 Um, no.

00:03:16.000 It would it would not be possible.

00:03:18.000 There would be disruption, violence, attacks that couldn't happen.

00:03:22.000 Meanwhile, uh a mayor of candidate who's who's taking an endorsement from an unended co-conspirator in a World Trade Center attack.

00:03:31.000 They can go go about their day and have all the joy in the world or all the fun in the world.

00:03:37.000 The No Kings protesters can do whatever they want, but they want to act like they're the good guys and that somehow they're protesting against authoritarianism and fascism.

00:03:47.000 Yeah, it's it I I think it was such a striking tweet because I I think it made me realize you kind of you bring up trauma.

00:03:57.000 I mean, that's something very real to this show.

00:03:59.000 I can tell you, Mikey was there when Charlie lost his life when he was murdered.

00:04:03.000 Um and we all do live with a trauma.

00:04:05.000 I thankfully I was not there.

00:04:07.000 I'm I'm super grateful for that, to be honest.

00:04:10.000 And we do live with this trauma all the time.

00:04:13.000 We just we and we don't even question it anymore.

00:04:16.000 And you're so right.

00:04:17.000 If I want I've been getting, you know, invited to speak at different events.

00:04:21.000 So is Mikey.

00:04:22.000 It's new new experience for us, but instantly my head goes, how good's the security?

00:04:27.000 How good's the security?

00:04:28.000 And and the fact that I have to think that is a is an absolute travesty, and you hit the nail right on the head, Mike.

00:04:34.000 And it's been this way from day one.

00:04:37.000 There, there were images of the San Jose Trump rally or where people are lined up and being chased down by mobs of savages.

00:04:46.000 There was a Trump rally that was supposed to occur in Chicago, but rioting and violence and gang attacks made it so that Trump had to cancel a rally.

00:04:54.000 That was one of the few rallies that had to be canceled.

00:04:57.000 Everyone, and and again, like we just sort of we take it for granted because you know, blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

00:05:05.000 But I I think it's that that's all been taken a little bit too far where we we shouldn't we shouldn't have to live like this, right?

00:05:12.000 And we have because again, when you when you live in um a situation where essentially dealing with mass abuse by the left law fair, oh oh which one of your friends, you know, Tyler does never like to mention it.

00:05:25.000 You know, I I've posted about it many times.

00:05:29.000 He was indicted in one of those elector cases.

00:05:32.000 People don't even know because our people don't want to call attention to it, right?

00:05:36.000 To the injustice that they face.

00:05:38.000 We have to do law fair.

00:05:39.000 Okay, gee, I, you know, I wonder, I wonder if Ricky Vaughn's gonna go to jail.

00:05:43.000 Okay, are they gonna somehow to drag me into something?

00:05:45.000 Okay, everybody, Pesovic, you everybody's had these same conversations.

00:05:49.000 Oh, if Biden wins, okay.

00:05:51.000 Well, have you had have you had the talk to your kids yet about what happens when the bad guys come in from the Biden regime or the Kamala Harris regime and they just take your dad away.

00:06:00.000 That's something that everybody has had to have that conversation, right?

00:06:06.000 And then and then when you you you somebody like Shakespeare, which is what I was trying to do with that tweet, which is why I think it resonated with so many people is when someone like Shakespeare, like, man, this isn't this isn't normal, right?

00:06:19.000 That this hypervigilance isn't normal.

00:06:21.000 This is the product of dealing with the the Marxists, the Bolsheviks, the terrorists, and we've taken it for granted, and we shouldn't take it for granted. 0.89

00:06:31.000 Now, what we have to do constructively to fight it is is a different conversation altogether, though.

00:06:37.000 But the first thing that must happen is the realization that no, this is actually not normal.

00:06:43.000 We shouldn't have to live this way.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, well, and and I I Mikey's got some thoughts on the young Republicans tweets that are going around everywhere, and or the the group chat, the leak group chat.

00:06:54.000 But I just want to show you this image first here, Mike.

00:06:57.000 Uh it's uh I think it's 67.

00:07:01.000 And this this was spotted, I believe, in Denver, and it says, uh yeah, Denver communists.

00:07:06.000 So they they they just put up a booth, Denver communist, Charlie Kirk had it coming, changed my mind.

00:07:12.000 And they're sitting there under a tent like Charlie, where he was murdered, and they're sitting there putting up peace signs with their hands.

00:07:22.000 They're not they're not afraid that somebody's gonna hurt them, they're not afraid that there's gonna be a sniper on some building.

00:07:28.000 They get to do that open, just absolutely vile behavior out in public.

00:07:34.000 And and the second level of this, though, in I had a companion tweet that didn't go as viral, but I think should have is it's they they only exist because of state protection.

00:07:44.000 So for so, for example, you've dealt with this at turning point.

00:07:47.000 People who come in and kick over your table.

00:07:49.000 The campus police say, well, what can you do?

00:07:51.000 This or other law enforcement say, well, that's a civil matter, even though it's not, but they always say they always go, oh, that's a civil matter.

00:07:58.000 So apparently you're supposed to find them and sue them.

00:08:01.000 But if a one of our people went and kicked that over, police would lock hands, and state power would be used immediately to bring on the full force of the law to destroy that person.

00:08:11.000 And that's the anarcho-tyranny that's the neo-Bolshevik is sorry, the neo-Bolshevikism that we live under.

00:08:18.000 And it couldn't exist without state power because frankly, if our people reacted to them the way they react to us, even to 10%, those people wouldn't be out in public.

00:08:28.000 If someone just came over and kicked the table over and said, What do you do about it?

00:08:32.000 What do you do about it?

00:08:33.000 There's nothing, they could do nothing.

00:08:35.000 They could do nothing about it.

00:08:37.000 That there was that street fight that was so illustrative where there is an event at the New York Republicans club.

00:08:44.000 And by the way, this matters way more than those dumb group texts since everybody's talking about the New York Young Republicans, okay.

00:08:49.000 Let's talk about a time there was an event.

00:08:51.000 I think Gavin McKinnis was there, Ann Colther was there, and Tifa showed up.

00:08:55.000 They went to violently attack everyone who attended the event.

00:08:58.000 Proud boys showed up and they provided safe escort to the attendees.

00:09:02.000 The attendees leave.

00:09:03.000 And then a group of Proud Boys are walking around, and Tifa comes, attacks them.

00:09:08.000 There's a mutual street fight, the Proud Boy versus Antifa.

00:09:12.000 No one gets killed, no one uses brass knuckles, no one uses a baton, just a good old-fashioned rough event.

00:09:20.000 What happens?

00:09:21.000 Most people don't know this.

00:09:22.000 And the people who are crying most about those group texts and how we have to disavow people and we need to take a big moral stand.

00:09:29.000 You can go check and see if they they've ever talked about this, and they haven't.

00:09:32.000 They haven't because they're deceptors, they're they're demons.

00:09:35.000 It's obvious what they're doing.

00:09:37.000 And what happened was the Proud Boys got arrested, charged, some of them went to prison for five to seven years.

00:09:42.000 Nobody in Antifa got charged or sent to prison.

00:09:45.000 Again, there was violence brought on by the left street thugs.

00:09:49.000 A right wing reaction, although I wouldn't necessarily call a proud boys a right wing, but we'll just use that false dichotomy.

00:09:56.000 There was a reaction.

00:09:58.000 The reaction had a mutual fight.

00:10:00.000 Again, we're not talking them going after civilians.

00:10:03.000 It was Proud Boys and Antifa, the Proud Boys win, and then state power comes down like a ton of bricks on the Proud Boys, and these young men go to prison in some cases for five to seven years.

00:10:12.000 They had no hope.

00:10:13.000 And those rigged New York juries.

00:10:16.000 And I didn't see anybody, me, a couple other people, you know, Charlie, you know, Charlie talked about before too, but very small minority of people said this is how they exist.

00:10:26.000 Antifa doesn't exist without state power.

00:10:29.000 Yeah, that's a it's a really important insight too.

00:10:32.000 And I do think that the you know, our laws, our our criminal justice systems are geared to see left-coated protest or violence as sort of an extension of the civil rights era, and they they're geared to see right wing protest or whatever as violent and illegal.

00:10:48.000 And so the hammer gets dropped down on us uh unfairly.

00:10:52.000 I think it's a good point.

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00:11:56.000 Mikey, you got you got something you want to talk about here.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, I just I I thought you said it well, Andrew.

00:12:02.000 We have to live with the trauma of this every single day with what happened.

00:12:06.000 Um, and I thought Mike's tweet was just excellent about how these people for the rest of their lives, when when they take to the streets, they don't have to worry about snipers, thugs, Antifa, and all the while the left media is fawning over them.

00:12:18.000 When I step outside, I automatically chef check rooftops to see if there's a sniper because that's something I have to live with for the rest of my life.

00:12:24.000 Or when you go to an event, you ask them how good the security is.

00:12:27.000 But then even more than that, you have these people publicly with signs and making motions to their neck with uh uh uh uh finger guns, and you have people going with a change my mind, Charlie Kirk had it coming signs.

00:12:41.000 These are public statements that these people are making, yet you're gonna try to draw some moral false equivalence to some YR out of context private group chat.

00:12:51.000 I'm I'm personally I'm sick of it.

00:12:53.000 And to defend Andrew a little bit, because he got this question if he's gonna condemn it.

00:12:57.000 If you're gonna have to condemn these young people for private group chat that was leaked for out-of-context messages, uh you're gonna have to you're condemn one-fifth of the college population for making off-color jokes in group chats.

00:13:09.000 I I'm sick of it.

00:13:10.000 There is no moral equivalence between the left and the right when it comes to things like this.

00:13:15.000 You guys are breeding political assassins, and on the right, we have leaked group chats.

00:13:20.000 You have somebody to running to be the top cop in one of the biggest states where a nation's capital happens to be, saying that he wants to see five and seven year olds die because they're bred little fascists.

00:13:31.000 There is no moral equivalent here.

00:13:33.000 There is not.

00:13:34.000 And I'm sick of seeing them tie this back to young Republicans out of context group chats.

00:13:39.000 And I thought your tweet was excellent, Mike.

00:13:41.000 I thought it hit the nail right on the head.

00:13:44.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:13:44.000 And it's it's unfortunate that I mean to take to take things a different matter to it to a different level.

00:13:51.000 Like I I've told people, and I think now people more take it seriously.

00:13:56.000 A lot of times people thought I was, you know, abuse and hyperbole or crank.

00:13:59.000 And I said, Look, man, if you're a conservative writing political commentator, you have to train jiu-jitsu, you have to lift, you have to have a CCW, and people uh would look at me like I'm crazy, right?

00:14:09.000 They would say, That's that's crazy.

00:14:11.000 And even some of the people going after the group tax would now we know that what they are and how they're deceivers, but they would lie and say, Oh, Cernovich is always trying to promote militancy, and it was never about militancy, it was always about this is just the way you this is the way you have to live.

00:14:28.000 You have to walk around, you have to look around, and somebody says your name, friend or foe.

00:14:32.000 I had an event happen.

00:14:33.000 I was walking back from New York, and a guy's across the street, he's like Certavic, and he runs across the street.

00:14:41.000 And in that split second, I have to go in my mind, friend or foe.

00:14:44.000 And he was a friend, and it was it was friendly and everything.

00:14:47.000 It was it was great, actually.

00:14:49.000 But that's that's our world, right?

00:14:52.000 None of these people that the No Kings protests have to think like that.

00:14:56.000 Somebody says their name and they're wondering, okay, is there about to be an altercation right now?

00:15:00.000 It are things about to get a little bit real.

00:15:02.000 If there is an altercation and I succeed in it, am I gonna now have to deal with the Soros DA? 0.54

00:15:09.000 Am I gonna have to deal with an AG like in Virginia who who wants to kill my children?

00:15:14.000 What would he do to you if you're involved in an altercation and you're attacked?

00:15:19.000 Is he gonna go through everybody's tax records, file false criminal charges?

00:15:23.000 Because if you kill a kid, you'll you'll file false charges, right?

00:15:27.000 That that's what I think people are also missing out on.

00:15:29.000 It's not just uh the evil of what he said, but knowing that if if that's what he said he would do is kill children, then why wouldn't he frame you for criminal charges?

00:15:41.000 This is how we have to live.

00:15:43.000 Meanwhile, you can you get to you know, you geezers get to go on their old king, their no king's protests and walk around like they're doing something, and by the way, they're all covidians.

00:15:51.000 They they installed a de facto king Fauci, right?

00:15:56.000 If you want to have a no kings protest, then you would have protested Fauci.

00:16:00.000 Listen, Mike, you're making some amazing points here because you know, to Mikey's point, it's a terrible reality.

00:16:07.000 But yeah, when I walk outside in certain situations, I look at the the rooftops now.

00:16:12.000 I look at the rooftops.

00:16:14.000 And these people, so I find myself on a stage at this news nation Cuomo town hall, and this little you know punk from Midas Touch or whatever comes up and says, you know, uh, do you disavow the young Republican group group chat?

00:16:30.000 And I'm thinking to myself, I don't know these people.

00:16:32.000 I don't know if they're worth you know throwing a bone to given the, you know, but I'm sorry, I'm my instinct is no longer to say, hey, I'm gonna condemn and ruin this young man's life for saying something stupid.

00:16:45.000 Like I'm not gonna say it wasn't stupid.

00:16:47.000 I'm not, I mean, it's not something that I text privately, but I'm also, you know, I'm not 20 anymore.

00:16:53.000 And these, you know, I have no idea the context.

00:16:55.000 Were they all just jokes?

00:16:56.000 Was it whatever?

00:16:57.000 But here's my point is that my friend just got killed in cold blood by apparently a left winger that had uh Antifa slogans on the belt uh bullet casings, and they are out in the streets proudly without any shame, without any, you know, sense of, hey, maybe I shouldn't be doing this, maybe this makes me a terrible human, celebrating the murder of my friend.

00:17:21.000 And so I have to, I'm put in a position where I have to condemn something that was said in private that was probably a bad joke.

00:17:28.000 And meanwhile, they're not even willing to condemn their own side that is glorifying the murder of an innocent man.

00:17:34.000 And so, yeah, there is no moral equivalency to to to your point, Mikey.

00:17:39.000 And it's it's just a shocking, shocking reality that we have to live.

00:17:42.000 I feel like every year there's this new outrage of how can this be normal?

00:17:48.000 How can this be normal?

00:17:49.000 How can they force millions of people to wear masks and get a shot that they don't want to get, or they can't go get eat or uh uh, you know, they can't eat at a restaurant, they can't work their job, or they can't work in the military.

00:18:00.000 And then and then next the next year there's something even more insane.

00:18:04.000 They they they try and kill President Trump.

00:18:06.000 They kill Charlie.

00:18:07.000 And then they glorify it in the streets.

00:18:09.000 And then we're the ones that are bad because we're not willing to condemn some young people in New York that I don't even know, and I don't even know the context of the statements they made.

00:18:17.000 And by the way, we're under no moral obligation to disavow anyone or anything.

00:18:22.000 That that's that's I'm not gonna play their game, Mike.

00:18:22.000 Correct.

00:18:25.000 I wasn't gonna play their little their little disavow ritual.

00:18:29.000 I wasn't doing it.

00:18:31.000 I've always told people, I go, look, this is politics, right?

00:18:34.000 In politics, you have to abide by the rules that the other side does, or you're gonna lose your lunch.

00:18:40.000 This isn't church, right?

00:18:42.000 This isn't church.

00:18:43.000 And something that too that I've also noticed about the disabled game, and it frustrates me when people who claim to be Christians really ride this high horse on this, is I know for a fact from reading the Bible that if you take the Christian approach to the group, the group text, you would be reaching out to the young men and young women and saying, you know, can we talk about how this looks or what what led you to this? 0.90

00:19:07.000 This condemnation is fire and brimstone.

00:19:10.000 No offense to you guys, but it's fire and brimstone Protestantism.

00:19:14.000 And that's why you're seeing a lot, a lot of this reaction is politics isn't for fire and brimstone preaching.

00:19:21.000 Politics is uh a social construct involving two competing sides.

00:19:26.000 And if everybody doesn't abide by the same rules and one one side says, Oh, we're taking the high ground, then you're gonna lose and you're gonna lose your country and you're gonna lose everything.

00:19:34.000 And then what what do you have?

00:19:36.000 Right?

00:19:36.000 Nothing, and then they go, Well, well, it's principle.

00:19:39.000 The the principle, the the Christian principle, the Christian principle is if you're concerned about this stuff, you reach out to people.

00:19:48.000 You say, brother, I'm praying for you.

00:19:50.000 I saw this message, and I think you're living a glib life.

00:19:53.000 I know that you didn't mean it in a hateful way, but your approach to the world is is shallow, and you're not living with the kind of gravitas and sincerity and seriousness that you should as a man.

00:20:04.000 That's what you do.

00:20:05.000 So the whole the whole again, conversation's a distraction because no matter how you look at it, from whatever perspective you look at, you realize it's it's fake outrage and it's people doing the bidding of the left.

00:20:17.000 And again, people you if you want to disavow these people, do it in a month.

00:20:22.000 You don't have to join the left when they're doing it.

00:20:24.000 You don't have to do it on their timeline.

00:20:25.000 No, and if you are doing it on their timeline, then the question is what master are you serving?

00:20:30.000 That's right.

00:20:31.000 Well said.

00:20:31.000 Mike Cernovich, you are a uh important thinker in this time.

00:20:35.000 You have seen it all.

00:20:36.000 You've been through these these uh battles back and forth for years.

00:20:40.000 That's why we wanted to have you on today because you just have a perspective on this stuff that the context is important and you've seen how it's evolved over the years.

00:20:47.000 So Mike Cernovich, thank you so much for joining us.

00:20:49.000 Uh, and thanks for being a great friend to Charlie all those years.

00:20:52.000 Have a great day.

00:20:53.000 You too.

00:20:53.000 Awesome.

00:20:56.000 Hey everybody, Andrew Colvet, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:22:05.000 And also the only person that I think rivals the height of Charlie Kirk, Governor Glenn Youncan, how are you doing?

00:22:12.000 I'm doing great, Mikey.

00:22:13.000 Thank you for having with me.

00:22:14.000 By the way, thanks for letting me take a tour beforehand.

00:22:16.000 Of course.

00:22:17.000 It is so inspiring to see the team so committed to everything that they're doing in order to keep Charlie's legacy going.

00:22:25.000 Yeah, a lot of people don't realize.

00:22:27.000 It's just awesome how big our operation is here at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.

00:22:32.000 But thank you so much for for making the way out for supporting our organization and being right there with us.

00:22:38.000 But not just supporting us in that way, but also supporting us by speaking at Virginia Tech.

00:22:42.000 We're going to talk about Charlie's legacy, things that we've seen post-September 10th.

00:22:48.000 Um but Governor, you spoke at one of our campus stops.

00:22:51.000 Let's just play a quick clip of a recap of that.

00:22:53.000 399.

00:22:54.000 These last few weeks have been really crazy, but these guys come out here and they put their lives on the line.

00:23:01.000 Uh from us.

00:23:02.000 And that's really awesome.

00:23:05.000 So we are just over five weeks out from Charlie's assassination, and the energy is just growing.

00:23:13.000 That was just a couple of weeks after, and last night we had Oklahoma University, which is just a packed house.

00:23:21.000 That was the biggest political event in Oklahoma history that we had.

00:23:24.000 And it was just Charlie wasn't there, but his energy was.

00:23:26.000 Governor, what was that event like for you?

00:23:28.000 Uh, what energy have you been seeing in Virginia with the reaction to Charlie's assassination?

00:23:34.000 Well, people ask the question, what's Charlie's legacy going to be?

00:23:38.000 And we see it every time you have one of these spectacular gatherings, and it's the students who are there.

00:23:47.000 That's his legacy.

00:23:48.000 And I shared with them that evening that the question, who's going to be the next Charlie Kirk is easy to answer?

00:23:56.000 And the answer I love most is all of you.

00:23:59.000 Yeah.

00:24:00.000 And those students, they showed up with enthusiasm, they showed up with faith, they showed up with courage, because it was uh very short time after the brutal assassination of Charlie.

00:24:12.000 And and yet they were there and they wanted to be there.

00:24:16.000 There was a line out the door of students who couldn't get in.

00:24:18.000 That's right.

00:24:19.000 And to be there and talk about faith and to talk about commitment and to talk about what it means to be an American, yeah, was overwhelming.

00:24:27.000 And I can't tell you how exciting it is to see you all doing it all over the country, just like Charlie wants to do it.

00:24:33.000 Well, you mentioned faith a lot, and it seems like that's an important thing to you, Governor.

00:24:37.000 What we have clip 398, which is you praying backstage with Meg and Kelly before you guys went out there.

00:24:43.000 I'd love for you to just kind of talk about your faith journey and how important that's been to you.

00:24:46.000 But if we could play this clip, that would be great.

00:24:49.000 Voices tonight speak your truth, not ours.

00:24:52.000 That our friends that are here tonight feel energized by the evening and inspired to go to your will.

00:25:00.000 I ask for your hedge of protection around everything.

00:25:03.000 I ask you for the inspiration and the words we choose so we have the tongue of the wise for A and hand me.

00:25:10.000 Most importantly, Father, we just thank you for your son.

00:25:13.000 That through his death and resurrections, we are reconciled with you.

00:25:17.000 And that's what tonight is all about.

00:25:22.000 Amen.

00:25:23.000 There we go.

00:25:24.000 Let's roll.

00:25:25.000 Wow.

00:25:26.000 Wow.

00:25:27.000 So your faith journey seems really important to you.

00:25:30.000 It is because of the invitation to have a relationship with Jesus.

00:25:36.000 I mean, let's be real, Mikey.

00:25:38.000 It all starts right there.

00:25:39.000 And I didn't grow up that way.

00:25:39.000 Yeah.

00:25:41.000 And thank you, Lord, for putting my wife Suzanne in the way of my life.

00:25:47.000 And she not only changed it forever because who she is, but she introduced me to Jesus.

00:25:53.000 And that, of course, changed me forever.

00:25:56.000 Amazing.

00:25:57.000 And I what I find every single morning is when I silence myself and focus and bury myself in scripture.

00:26:06.000 And then pray something amazing happens.

00:26:10.000 You're just settled and you're ready.

00:26:12.000 You're ready for the day.

00:26:14.000 And I always ask for a hedge of protection around our law enforcement or candidates or people who are doing really hard things.

00:26:23.000 But I find every morning, just in prayer time, uh, the hedge of protection just comes.

00:26:28.000 Amen.

00:26:28.000 Yeah.

00:26:29.000 Yeah.

00:26:30.000 A life without God is unorderly.

00:26:32.000 A life with him is is an ordered one, is what Charlie used to always say.

00:26:35.000 So looking ahead to 2020, uh, and and looking back to 2024, the youth delivered the White House, or at least helped deliver the White House for President Trump, and will play a huge role in 2028.

00:26:49.000 President Trump won the youth vote in Michigan and many other states.

00:26:52.000 And Charlie was kind of granted the title of youth whisperer by President Trump.

00:26:58.000 With Charlie being gone, do you see a threat in Gen Z being the voting block that kind of is going to be the one to deliver a majority in the House, uh, but also the presidency in 2028. 0.98

00:27:11.000 Yeah.

00:27:11.000 Well, Mikey Charlie's not gone.

00:27:13.000 Um, he's not physically with us.

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 And there's a fabulous picture around the corner of Jesus hugging Charlie.

00:27:20.000 And I just find myself thinking about that image because that's exactly what happened.

00:27:26.000 But also, as we see young people across the country who were all Charlies, we haven't lost. 0.56

00:27:34.000 We've in fact gained.

00:27:36.000 And the momentum is real.

00:27:36.000 Yeah.

00:27:38.000 There's a revival going on across this nation, and you can see it and feel it every single day.

00:27:43.000 And just in the Commonwealth of Virginia, I just was told that since Charlie's assassination, there's been 44 new high school turning point chapters that have started.

00:27:54.000 We're seeing chapters in our universities uh come where there weren't before.

00:27:59.000 And I think that is what this is all about, which is Charlie's legacy is in fact Charlie.

00:28:07.000 Yeah.

00:28:07.000 And everyone understands that he spoke truth and that he stood for faith and honesty.

00:28:13.000 And and I constantly see t-shirts that say freedom on them.

00:28:18.000 And that, my friends, is why I have such great faith in our future because of the generation that is stepping up and leading and not staying on the sidelines.

00:28:29.000 Yeah, yes.

00:28:30.000 As someone who is Gen Z, I feel like Charlie was the voice for a lot of us.

00:28:34.000 And you're right, he's not gone.

00:28:35.000 His spirit is still with us.

00:28:36.000 And Charlie was uh a tremendous believer in Christ in the Bible is the foundation of everything that he lived for.

00:28:42.000 And it's been beautiful to see how many people have been led to Christ because of everything that's happened, or people who have been inspired to join a turning point chapter or get involved on our campuses.

00:28:51.000 Um I I am interested to see as this energy continues.

00:28:55.000 We are at an all-time high at Turning Point USA with the energy.

00:28:59.000 But on the right, I'm just hoping that that people can continue to reach out to the Gen Z and have a voice for them.

00:29:05.000 And the thing that I just keep saying is on campus, Charlie was debating and bringing truth half the time.

00:29:10.000 The other half the time he had his microphone on the table and he was listening to them and their problems, and then he'd bring their problems to Capitol Hill and say, the youth are dealing with this issue.

00:29:18.000 So that's something I think we can all be looking for.

00:29:22.000 Right before we started, we had talked about the debate this this last week and um talking about how how great of a job Winsome Earl Sears had had done.

00:29:33.000 Um but we're just gonna play clip 388 super quick and then we'll just do a quick reaction to that.

00:29:39.000 Do you still continue to endorse Jay Jones?

00:29:42.000 15 seconds.

00:29:43.000 Yes or no?

00:29:44.000 I we are all running our individual races.

00:29:46.000 I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant governor nominee.

00:29:51.000 And it's up to every person to make their own decision.

00:29:54.000 I am running my race to serve Virginia, and that is what I intend to do.

00:29:59.000 Thank you, Miss Spamberger.

00:30:01.000 Uh, we just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that as of now you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney general.

00:30:09.000 I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision.

00:30:14.000 I am running for governor.

00:30:15.000 I am accountable for the words that I say for the acts that I take for the policies that I have put out.

00:30:22.000 Thank you.

00:30:23.000 I am responsible for the policies I put out and the work I will endeavor to do tirelessly for the people.

00:30:32.000 Thank you, Miss Spamberger.

00:30:34.000 I I I don't understand how hard it is to say it's wrong to threaten to kill children.

00:30:40.000 And therefore, I can't support somebody running for attorney general, the top cop in the Commonwealth of Virginia, the people's protector who says, first I want to put two bullets in someone's head, and then I want to see their children die in their mother's arms, and then a few cops need to die too.

00:30:55.000 I mean, it is beyond disqualifying.

00:30:57.000 And why she can say he shouldn't be voted in to serve as attorney general because I couldn't put him in the I couldn't put him in my cabinet.

00:31:05.000 He couldn't get a job as a district attorney, he could never pass a background test.

00:31:08.000 He should he's disqualified.

00:31:10.000 And the fact she can't say it is stunning.

00:31:13.000 I mean, she had three chances there to say the very simple words, he's disqualified, he should not be attorney general, and he should step down from the race and to show courage.

00:31:23.000 But instead, some word salad with no answer in it, which I think furthers everyone's recognition that the Democrat Party is embracing a candidate who is espoused violence.

00:31:35.000 And they run around and and try to say, oh, we shouldn't have any violence.

00:31:39.000 We should have no violence in the I mean we're sitting here at Turning Point and we're talking about uh violence against your political enemies, and there could be no moment where we say anything other than it's abhorrent and we we mourn what's happened.

00:31:54.000 And the fact that she can't say that and tell this candidate to step down, I think is is beyond uh a moment of of lack of moral clarity, and I think it's very defining for her own morality.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, I I'm worried about the increase in violence on the left.

00:32:11.000 I mean, as we stand here at this empty seat right here, and um someone who've had has had a massive impact on the younger generation and so many people in this country and across the world and the no kings protest is about to happen.

00:32:25.000 Uh, I uh there's an Atlantic article about the MAGA has found their George Floyd, and I just have a I struggle with that because the left, when that happened, burned cities to the ground and Wendy's and cars and homes, and when Charlie was assassinated, we peacefully gathered, worshipped for three hours, thousands gave their lives to the Lord.

00:32:47.000 277,000 people came to Charlie's memorial, and I am increasingly worried about the direction that the left is headed in.

00:32:58.000 Our good friends at Angel Studios, I love Angel Studios, amazing new film uh this holy week, phenomenal.

00:33:06.000 As I think about Charlie's life and how much of the support he was of Angel, it's hard not to feel so grateful for what he did.

00:33:13.000 He supported us in our darkest days and in our brightest hours as a company.

00:33:18.000 Jeff and I and Charlie were doing lunch together.

00:33:20.000 We asked him, we said, Are you are you at all worried about one of these college campuses?

00:33:24.000 And he just said with so much peace in his his eyes and so much peace in his heart.

00:33:29.000 If that's how God takes me, then that's how I'm supposed to go.

00:33:32.000 And I feel like that was a clear message that Charlie's life is a testimony to Jesus Christ, his Lord and Savior, and his relationship with him was the most important thing that he would want the world to remember about his legacy.

00:33:46.000 Man, are we grateful to have gotten to be a little connection in the multitude of connections that he made throughout his life because it was so impactful to us.

00:33:58.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:33:59.000 Love you.

00:34:00.000 We miss you.

00:34:01.000 We're going to continue to drive forward the good news.

00:34:04.000 We're going to continue to drive forward the good news.

00:34:11.000 The Purple State Whisperer, I like that title.

00:34:13.000 I think we keep it.

00:34:15.000 We have learned how to win in a purple state.

00:34:17.000 That's right.

00:34:18.000 You have.

00:34:18.000 What are you doing as governor and what is going on in Virginia with National Guard, Virginia law enforcement, and I'd love for you to kind of respond on the left getting increasingly violent as as the Democrat Party moves further and further to the left.

00:34:34.000 Well, that is the issue, which is we've got the left liberal progressive wing of the Democrat Party who is absorbed it all, and we've seen their leaders over the years espouse awful things, calling everyone Nazis and fascist and and even calling for violent protests.

00:34:54.000 And Abigail Spamberger, in fact, as the Democrat candidate in Virginia has said, let your rage fuel you. 1.00

00:35:01.000 I mean, this is the rhetoric over and over and over again.

00:35:04.000 And and so as a governor, when there is a big protest planned with no kings, um, I've got to expect for the worse and then pray for the best.

00:35:17.000 And that's why I've been very clear.

00:35:23.000 In fact, so much of the constitution was based on Virginian's writings, and and the idea of being able to gather and protest peacefully is protected, and I swore an oath to protect it, and I always will protect it.

00:35:37.000 However, if there is any transgression where there's uh where there's any vandalism or there's violence or there's disruption of traffic or safety concerns, we have to make sure that people are safe.

00:35:51.000 And so we have a huge increase in law enforcement presence.

00:35:55.000 And yes, I've asked the the the Virginia National Guard to pre-position So that we're ready.

00:36:01.000 And I pray that nothing happens.

00:36:03.000 And we've communicated with all the leaders of the protest organizations, and there's 90 different protests organized over the common around the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:36:11.000 And I want to make sure that everyone is safe.

00:36:13.000 But I want to get back to the issue at hand, which is the liberal left wing of the Democrat Party has indeed absorbed it all.

00:36:22.000 And you can see that even folks you would expect to be a little bit more reasonable can't fight back anymore.

00:36:29.000 And they're dragged into this.

00:36:31.000 Not a single Democrat has asked Jay Jones to step down.

00:36:35.000 Not a single one.

00:36:36.000 Not one of them.

00:36:37.000 It's unbelievable.

00:36:38.000 In fact, some of them are doubling down.

00:36:39.000 And you see the Virginia Beach Democrats doubling down on him.

00:36:43.000 But let's just put up a picture.

00:36:45.000 This is Todd Gilbert's family 390.

00:36:48.000 This is the epitome of the American nuclear family. 0.51

00:36:52.000 I mean, that's a beautiful family.

00:36:53.000 And you have Jay Jones saying that they're they're breeding little fascists.

00:36:58.000 And when you use a word so much, you dilute its meaning, and people don't understand what it means anymore.

00:37:05.000 And that's what the left is doing time and again.

00:37:08.000 But we're just gonna, for those of you who are tuning into this story for the first time, we'll just put up 392.

00:37:13.000 These are Jay Jones text messages where he says three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot.

00:37:20.000 Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.

00:37:22.000 Spoiler, put Gilbert in the crew with two the the worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time.

00:37:30.000 Then he goes on to double down, um, where he says, I genuinely was.

00:37:35.000 I wasn't attacking you.

00:37:36.000 I was trying to understand your logic.

00:37:38.000 You weren't trying to.

00:37:40.000 You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die.

00:37:43.000 Yes, I've told you this before.

00:37:45.000 Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.

00:37:49.000 That's the scariest one for me because this is the top cop.

00:37:53.000 And he's saying only when people feel pain personally, I feel like this is just the weaponization of government.

00:38:01.000 Again, this is what we saw under the Biden administration, and this is what we're about to see if this this Jay Jones wins.

00:38:08.000 Yeah.

00:38:09.000 And well, it can't happen because Virginia has to stand up and vote no Joe J no Jay Jones, no Abigail Spamberger, because we're better than this.

00:38:20.000 Yes.

00:38:20.000 I mean, think about the role that he is being asked to hire into, a role where law enforcement has to trust him to have their back.

00:38:29.000 And he said law enforcement must die.

00:38:31.000 Now, listen, every law enforcement agency has asked him to step down and said that he's unfit.

00:38:36.000 This is a someone who's got to comfort a mother whose children have died, and yet he called for the death of a two-year-old and a five-year-old.

00:38:43.000 There's just no way he can possibly serve in this role effectively at all.

00:38:47.000 But he shouldn't even have the right.

00:38:49.000 I mean, this guy shouldn't be elected for anything.

00:38:52.000 Worse yet, I think it is reflective of where the Democrat Party has moved.

00:38:57.000 It has moved to a place where they are unable to ask him to step down because they are so in league with the progressive left and their violent rhetoric that has for years now been trying to prosecute the president.

00:39:13.000 We saw the president nearly assassinated twice.

00:39:16.000 We had two other uh Republican House candidates in Virginia with death threats.

00:39:21.000 I mean, this is where they are in so many areas, and this is why I can't understand why it takes such a huge push to get them to do what's right.

00:39:31.000 Step up and ask him to step down.

00:39:32.000 Thank you, Governor.

00:39:33.000 This is Governor Glenn Yunkin.

00:39:35.000 Purple State Whisper, thank you so much for joining us.

00:39:38.000 What an honor to be with you.

00:39:39.000 Thank you.

00:39:39.000 By the way, this is for Charlie.

00:39:41.000 This is for Charlie.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 21, 2025

There Is No Moral Equivalency Between Left and Right

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