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00:02:14.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:38.000I was just saying, you've been everywhere lately.
00:02:40.000Well, we just launched this new venture, and in an effort to insulate ourselves from cancellation, we went with a subscription model.
00:02:49.000And so I've just been out telling people about it for the last week and learning about the power of podcasts, which I didn't fully appreciate as a middle-aged man.
00:02:58.000That almost all the interesting conversations in the world take place on podcasts.
00:03:02.000Well, I always do your podcast, but I didn't, I just wasn't fully aware of the breadth of podcasts and how many smart people were conducting them and listening to them.
00:03:11.000I mean, I went on a couple of podcasts.
00:03:12.000I got all these texts from like people I knew in childhood.
00:03:15.000I heard you on some podcast I've never heard of.
00:03:28.000Yeah, because I mean, part of the problem with working in cable news, and I spent like 25, more than 25 years in it, is that it's totally self-referential.
00:03:48.000And you somehow convince yourself, as one does when you live in a tiny little world.
00:03:51.000I mean, if you were, you know, in a medieval French monastery in 1500, you would think that nothing that happened outside the monastery was important because your world is what matters.
00:03:59.000And when you work in cable news, cable news is the world that matters.
00:04:02.000And then when you leave, you're like, actually, this has no effect on anything.
00:04:04.000Who cares what they're saying on MSNBC?
00:04:06.000You know, I spent all these years being mad at MSNBC and CNN.
00:04:10.000I worked to both of them, so I know from the inside how rotten they are.
00:04:13.000And then I left, and I'm thinking, we've never had a TV at home, so I never watch it anyway, but I don't see the clips.
00:04:20.000It doesn't seem to make any difference.
00:04:55.000I mean, I'm a reader, not a watcher, so I completely agree.
00:04:59.000Things that I read stick much longer than things I see.
00:05:02.000Yeah, and things you listen, I think, because you're not distracted by all of the pretty people on TV saying things.
00:05:08.000Do you think that, I mean, you and I have talked about this privately.
00:05:11.000I've heard you say it publicly recently.
00:05:13.000There are things that people are now saying on social media and podcasting that five years ago you weren't even allowed to think, let alone say.
00:05:20.000It's happening at a rapid pace right now.
00:05:21.000Yeah, everything is changing so fast that it's a little bewildering to me.
00:05:25.000And it's not, I mean, I think it's positive in the sense that the truth is the only thing that matters.
00:05:31.000There's so much lying in our country that it's bewildering.
00:05:35.000So I'm 100% in favor of people telling the truth always.
00:05:39.000And I think it's the key to strength is being honest in your personal life as well as your public life.
00:05:44.000The downside of it from my perspective is it's so much at once.
00:05:59.000But I never questioned the basic honesty of a lot of institutions in my life, including the denomination that we belong to, the agency in the federal government my dad worked for, all this stuff.
00:06:11.000I probably should have questioned it, but I didn't.
00:06:12.000But if you're my age, you probably have shared my experience.
00:06:15.000And now I'm learning in the space of like five years that a lot of it was a lie.
00:06:20.000And some days it feels like all of it was a lie.
00:06:22.000And not just those institutions, but the accounts they told us of our history.
00:08:08.000And it's just, I guess, I would just bottom line it and say all these bad things happening in a row, all this disclosure happening at once, all these realizations dawning on aware people simultaneously.
00:08:31.000And so I don't think we can affect the outcome of most of these things, obviously, but we can affect who we are, and we can become stronger.
00:09:35.000We love them even more now than we did five years ago before the great sorting took place and before COVID happened and before you learned that your neighbors who you always kind of liked were actually kind of fascists.
00:11:31.000I mean, it's obviously so distressing, but let me just, as I'm trying to now do, I'm trying to teach myself to do there is an upside, and let me just say what it is.
00:11:40.000For one, it's confirmation that this is not a political struggle, okay?
00:11:46.000It's not about politics, it's not about ideology.
00:12:31.000So that's the first good thing about it.
00:12:33.000The second good thing is it's like a super easy, handy guide to what actually matters and what's true.
00:12:38.000If you want to know what's true, look around who's being punished and what are they being punished for.
00:12:43.000And if someone's being, you know, all of a sudden, if they're leveling a billion-dollar civil judgment against a guy for a radio show, you got to find the transcript of that radio show.
00:12:58.000By the way, I would say that this is true for, I mean, now that we're getting into the Bible, it's like it's true for, you know, the books of the prophets, like, or anybody who has crazy insight into things.
00:14:01.000But I also think that we should listen to everybody and recognize that truth flows from unlikely sources and you can't know what they are ahead of time.
00:14:10.000And if you decide that only, and this is what they're trying to do, these are our trusted sources.
00:14:16.000This is the only place you're going to get the truth.
00:14:18.000That is the opposite of what we should do.
00:14:20.000We should be open to the fact, the demonstrated fact, that truth comes at us from directions that we cannot predict and from people we wouldn't suspect.
00:14:30.000And anyway, so we should just acknowledge that if they're landing on you in a dog pile and NBC News and CNN and the Department of Justice and the whatever, the CNL president, all of them are denouncing you.
00:14:49.000And I hate to say that because that's so dark and cynical, but it's just, it's factually accurate.
00:14:54.000But the hopeful wrinkle, because it's been a little heavy and that's good, is that there are millions of people that now can at least for this moment start telling the truth thanks to Elon buying Twitter.
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00:17:41.000It's like all of a sudden, in some ways, the truth overton window is moving.
00:17:44.000Vivek Ramasamy goes up on stage and says the great replacement is not a conspiracy theory.
00:17:47.000It is the policy of the Democrat Party.
00:17:49.000Three years ago, I mean, the cost of that statement three years ago.
00:17:54.000What I'm getting at is you're kind of this trailblazer, Tucker, you especially, that has allowed other people to say things that otherwise we would have never been able to say before.
00:18:03.000Yeah, I mean, and that is, that's a big deal.
00:18:07.000The funny thing is, well, and I'll take that as a compliment, and I appreciate it.
00:18:10.000No, I mean that as a sincere compliment.
00:18:12.000But the funny thing is, I'm like incredibly moderate.
00:18:15.000I'm like the most moderate person I've ever met in the true sense of the word moderate.
00:18:21.000My parents got divorced when I was little.
00:18:22.000I'm not for radical change because I don't believe all change is good, actually.
00:20:49.000And last thing I'll say is that part of the reason that conservatives have trouble telling what they think is true in public is that they've been convinced that their views are like fringe or weird or embarrassing.
00:21:07.000Everything I've done in the past 10 years was to try and call people's attention to the fact we're going to get a revolution if you don't knock this crap off.
00:21:14.000If you don't listen to people and restore democracy, which we do not have.
00:21:36.000I'm just going to say I've never taken more grief than I did when I worked in my previous job for saying, like, maybe we could find a way to end the war.
00:21:44.000Having covered wars, I know that they're really ugly.
00:22:40.000And our view was: like, I don't want to know about that stuff.
00:22:44.000You want to dress up like a girl and go ahead, man.
00:22:46.000Just, you know, keep it out of my face.
00:22:48.000And if you bring it to my kids' school, I'm going to beat the crap out of you, okay?
00:22:51.000And that was like, that was a great arrangement that I would have been content to live with for the rest of my life.
00:22:58.000But they wouldn't stop, and they won't stop now.
00:23:00.000They're trying to tear down the monument to the peace reached in the Civil War.
00:23:06.000And I'm looking at this, and I'm like, where are all the veterans or the descendants of Civil War soldiers, which would include me and you.
00:24:05.000So, for the last 10 years, I don't know when this insanity started, second term Obama, I think, in retrospect, but I kind of missed a lot of that because I was just, I wasn't expecting it, right?
00:25:04.000These are things done for the sake of destroying, destroying the good, making it uglier.
00:25:10.000I'm really interested in aesthetics and beauty because I think it matters almost more than anything else because it's a reflection of truth.
00:25:18.000And so the march of ugliness across the United States is shocking to me.
00:25:25.000The buildings, driving through Phoenix, I'm sorry.
00:25:27.000I saw these buildings and I almost said something to the people in the car with me.
00:25:30.000I didn't want to be boorish because it's very easy for me to be, but I thought to myself, where are the architects and why aren't they in prison?
00:25:37.000You could build something like, no, I mean it.
00:26:03.000If you raise a person in a society that's relentlessly ugly, where you're completely cut off from nature, which is the purest thing because God created it, then you will raise a totally different kind of person.
00:26:16.000And if you have a society that imposes relentless, sterile, repetitive ugliness on its population, physically, I mean, physically, we can go see it.
00:26:24.000Go drive back toward Charlie's headquarters where I just came from.
00:26:27.000And there's a mall by the side of the road.
00:26:59.000If there's someone in your life who is tormenting you, like actual torment, not that you disagree with or find annoying or whatever, but an actual evil person who's doing evil, is dividing people for its own sake.
00:27:09.000You are not looking at a happy person.
00:27:11.000I don't care how much money they're making doing it.
00:27:13.000They are being destroyed too, because that's its nature.
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00:30:33.000It was about pointing out that the people who control our country, who finance its building projects, for example, are committed to oppressing us through ugliness, which is true.
00:30:52.000The truer something is, the more beautiful it is.
00:30:54.000You will never, and no one ever has in the history of the graphic arts created a picture more beautiful than my Springer Spaniel's face, which is true.
00:32:39.000But if a ceiling like that could not be devised by anyone who doesn't hate people, there is no reason for that.
00:32:48.000There is no reason for a synthetic drop ceiling and recessed lighting.
00:32:53.000It would be cheaper to take this room and clad it in hemlock or white pine or fir, I mean it.
00:32:58.000And if you were in a wood-paneled room, you would feel, you would feel it because wood was alive.
00:33:05.000And you can, and I won't live in a room that's not wood-paneled.
00:33:08.000And by the way, it's literally cheaper than drywall.
00:33:10.000I'm just telling you, that depending on the wood market, but if you're not choosy about your woods, you can get a softwood-clad room for cheaper than hanging drywall.
00:33:18.000And the difference that it makes in your life is like unbelievable.
00:34:11.000And when I'm accused of being a populist, which I am not, I will just refer to like the last 3,000 years of recorded history and note that there's never been a society led by the majority.
00:34:22.000You hope the majority can have some input through voting.
00:36:16.000But this is one case, and by this I mean the next 12 months, it's like a shower curtain.
00:36:20.000I can see shapes, but I can't make them out.
00:36:23.000And so I really don't know what is going to happen.
00:36:26.000My strong sense is that the deception will increase and become really intense, and that a lot of the people you think are on your side are actually not, and whether they know it or not.
00:36:37.000I'm trying not to use the term false prophet, but I think that that's real.
00:38:05.000There's a reason they're doing that, of course, which was to erase American history and to indict your ancestors so they can indict you because they believe in collective punishment.
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00:39:16.000Anyway, look, I don't want radical behavior.
00:39:20.000I really hope that my tongue will not be a vehicle for radical statements.
00:41:22.000And people are, you know, if you're a 24-year-old man, you're facing forces that I can't even understand because I just didn't grow up in your world, okay?
00:41:29.000So you're under pressures that are profound.
00:42:13.000And killing themselves, if not losing themselves in weed and porn.
00:42:16.000And so when I try to step out of my judgment and reaction, I feel deep sympathy.
00:42:24.000But overturning not just the gender binary, the trans stuff, which is, I think, very significant, but it's also a little bit, if I can be, how honest do you want to be?
00:42:34.000I mean, it's not a sideshow, but it's like, actually, we already gave up on the real battle, which is like, you should be able to have a single parent, you know, a single income family.
00:42:45.000And it's not virtuous to send your kids to be raised by people who don't speak English all day.
00:45:13.000That's your only job is to protect women and care for them and love them.
00:45:18.000And if we're celebrating some woman getting her legs blown off because it's some sort of like statement about something in a war that turned out to be completely pointless and bad for us, you're a freak, okay?
00:45:29.000And I got in a yelling match with this general in the restaurant in the green zone.