In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, I sit down with the President of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, to discuss his views on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and why it was bad for our country.
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00:01:41.000Something I don't find very interesting about you, something I find kind of repulsive, is that I believe you said that the Civil Rights Act was bad and that we shouldn't have that.
00:03:36.000Oh, if you're born there, if you're born in a very poor area like that, with very low economic opportunity, very poor schools, very low ratings, where the average test score is much lower, when you're in that environment, you have the whole system up against you, right?
00:03:49.000So when you say in that kind of circumstance, when you're facing the whole, I guess, leviathan of systemic racism, when you say it's fair to, for example, lower the standard because knowing that their circumstances were like that, perhaps based on What they had was presented to them.
00:04:07.000They had the correct amount of merit to get into a school.
00:05:20.000And we're going to say we're going to lower the test standards so that somebody that's a woman of color can come in, and therefore it's harder for you.
00:05:27.000So it's a higher bar for you, lower bar for them.
00:05:30.000Definitionally, that's a redistribution of test scores to somebody else.
00:05:44.000Okay, so when you say that, if you do that, then, well, black people aren't going to get into school, and then they won't be able to uplift themselves, they won't be able to have prosperous families, they won't be able to, you know, equalize the economic status, because you need to give them a little jump start.
00:06:29.000Board of Education in Virginia where essentially the legislature, which was still white supremacist, which is still extremely racist, they decided that, no, we're going to do everything that's feasibly possible within our means to stop black people from going to white schools.
00:07:33.000So you're arguing for a very racist policy, which is that we should actively discriminate against people based on the color of their skin, which is affirmative action and DEI in practice.
00:08:31.000I believe it's destructive and wrong to say that people are going to be organized or have their future set based on the color of their skin.
00:08:42.000And I think it hurts the excellence of a country.
00:08:45.000You asked a question, well, how are we going to help other communities?
00:08:48.000You know how you help other communities?
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00:10:01.000Okay, so do you think when Trump is now a nice president, now that racism is gone now because Trump is back, we're no longer pandering, right?
00:10:09.000Do you think that the conditions of black people, do you think O-Block is going to become a much nicer place?
00:10:17.000Do you think that these very downturned sort of black neighborhoods that have been sort of left behind, do you think they're going to become revitalized now?
00:10:24.000Is that what you think is going to happen?
00:11:26.000I think that we should try to say, I don't care about the color of your skin.
00:11:29.000I care about what you bring to the table.
00:11:31.000And stop pandering to people based on special criteria, points, and acceptance to college, saying that we're going to make it easier for one group and harder for another group.
00:13:06.000The difference is, like, for example, if you want to go back to segregation, the all-white dormitory was nice as s*** and the all-black one was s***.
00:13:23.000But, like, okay, I'll go back to, because I did let it slip by, but you mentioned that, like, in the early years of the Donald Trump presidency, right, that the conditions for the employment and stuff were going up for black people.
00:13:33.000What I would say is the economy works slow.
00:13:36.000It works at, like, a time dilation for policies initially enacted.
00:13:39.000So what I would probably assume, based on what you said to me, is that it was the Obama-era policies that actually led to that and not the Trump policies, because stuff like tax cuts for the rich doesn't really help black people.
00:13:49.000In a year from now, we're going to have the greatest economy ever.
00:15:21.000Hi, I'm starting my senior thesis this semester on political polarization and the effects social media and echo chambers has on political polarization.
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00:15:37.000So I'm starting my senior thesis this year on political polarization and the effects social media and Echo Chambers has on it.
00:15:43.000So my question is, how would you describe the relationship between social media and political polarization, especially now that Elon Musk owns X and has advocated for freedom of speech?
00:15:54.000Yeah, I mean, I think that more speech is always better.
00:15:57.000Again, this is going to sound somewhat polarizing, but I don't think it's the right that's polarized in the country, and I'll prove it to you.
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00:18:34.000And yet these policies, like destroying the Department of Education, which I'm a teacher for, hurts our ability to take power in the marketplace.
00:18:41.000It just adds to the few rich people owning all of us.
00:18:45.000Right now in America, the top 0.01% have an average $600 million of wealth.
00:18:49.000The bottom half have an average $7,000.
00:18:52.000And by destroying the Department of Education, the Consumer Protection Bureau, that is actively helping those...
00:20:27.000By destroying the Department of Education, they're not funding Title I classrooms.
00:20:30.000If we funded Title I classrooms with the money that we promised, every single classroom would get a paraprofessional, which would help my students immensely.
00:21:35.000But secondly, let me ask you, this is a very important point.
00:21:37.000It should be reduced, but it's showing the Department of Education is not the answer because then you hurt the American economy by not allowing people to build up their human capital.
00:21:50.000We're the lowest in reading, math, arithmetic in the Western world.
00:21:53.000Department of Education has made our standards substandard.
00:21:56.000And we spend $250 billion a year on the Department of Education, and yet our kids can't – we can't find a single kid that can read at grade level in a Baltimore public school or that can do math in a Chicago public school.
00:22:06.000We keep on spending billions of dollars on it.
00:22:08.000So maybe the solution is crush the current system, send the money back to the states, empower families and parents, moms and dads to spend the money as they see fit, more choice, more competition, and make it localized, not federalized.
00:22:20.000The state of Florida introduced a bill.
00:22:22.000My opponent introduced a bill to provide $7,000 for school choice in Florida.
00:22:32.000It's also, every dollar that's taken out of the Florida public education system given to private families, 75% of that is going to families that can already...
00:23:06.000You're saying $3 billion going to what?
00:23:08.000So, $3 billion is being taken out of the public education system and given directly to the people who can already afford a private education.
00:23:27.000It's their taxpayer dollars that are coming back as a refund, right?
00:23:29.000It's also the public taxpayer dollars that are putting their public money and they were giving back to private individuals that are going to the public system.
00:23:36.000It's their own money that's coming back.
00:23:37.000No, because you're advocating for rich people stealing our tax dollars.
00:24:05.00075% of the money that is going from the public education system into the private system is going to those who can already afford private education.
00:24:13.000What is the number one predictor of student success?
00:24:16.000How many years a teacher has been an educator.
00:24:18.000Actually, the quality of this teacher.
00:24:20.000Can we agree at least, because we'll not agree on everything, that we should be able to fire teachers at will?
00:25:45.000When you take away the Consumer Protection Bureau that helps $16 billion of scams go back to the American people, that helps our economy because then they can take place in the marketplace.
00:25:56.000What you're advocating for is to reduce the things that push people into the marketplace, to increase the barriers, and to destroy the freedom of our marketplace.
00:26:04.000Again, you have not answered the question.
00:26:35.000The federal government spending money based solely on tests hurts people because then we don't get the money going to critical thinking, which your misinformation machine succeeds on.
00:26:49.000There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway, a revolution in the states.
00:27:01.000It's real, it's growing, and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.
00:27:08.000Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God.
00:27:18.000The fact is, parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development and future.
00:27:24.000Education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes and politicians, in charge of these important family decisions.
00:27:32.000It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.
00:27:38.000To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard.
00:31:39.000Well, first of all, the president signed an executive order saying no more DEI. Equity assessment should have no place in the U.S. government because equity is not constitutional.
00:34:29.000This is the first time in my lifetime we have an administration going after the waste, going after the size of government to balance the budget so that you guys don't live as indentured servants and Russian serfs for the rest of your life.