The Charlie Kirk Show - They Won’t Leave Us Alone — LIVE from Freedom Night with Bob McEwen

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:00:26.000 Buckle up everybody here.

00:00:27.000 We go.

00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:30.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:32.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:35.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:39.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:40.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:41.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:49.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:58.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:01.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:01:02.000 Take a seat.

00:01:03.000 Thank you.

00:01:05.000 We have a very special guest tonight.

00:01:08.000 Last time I was up here, you might remember we had Dennis Prager.

00:01:11.000 We had a lot of fun.

00:01:12.000 But I opened by reflecting on my mostly peaceful visit to University of California, Davis.

00:01:18.000 And I want to talk about another thing that Turning Point USA has been involved in the last week and a half, two weeks.

00:01:26.000 Very important.

00:01:27.000 And unfortunately, it's a pattern that we are seeing.

00:01:31.000 And so it shouldn't be controversial to say that men should not be able to compete in women's sports.

00:01:37.000 That shouldn't be controversial, that you have female sports and you have male sports, that God created men and God created women.

00:01:42.000 Why is this even something that is considered to be controversial?

00:01:46.000 Well, we're living in a postmodern age where truth really means nothing as Christianity has declined in the public sphere and declined in our government.

00:01:56.000 And so there's a really courageous individual that we have started working with at Turning Point USA.

00:02:02.000 Her name is Riley Gaines. 0.52

00:02:03.000 Many of you probably know who she is, right?

00:02:06.000 We should have her at a Freedom Night. 0.83

00:02:08.000 That would actually be really fun, wouldn't it?

00:02:09.000 That'd be great.

00:02:11.000 And Riley has a very interesting story.

00:02:14.000 She wanted to be a national champion swimmer.

00:02:17.000 She was all SEC, all-American.

00:02:19.000 She very well might have been a national champion swimmer, but she was unable to win the national championship, not because she got hurt or she actually broke her personal record, but instead a man won the national championship competing in the female division.

00:02:36.000 Now, this is an interesting question, isn't it?

00:02:38.000 Because I hear from Christians sometimes, well, Charlie, it's not very loving to say that men should not compete in female sports.

00:02:46.000 No, this is something that a lot of Christian pastors are saying now, Fairamount, which it's very interesting.

00:02:52.000 I must have missed the Bible verse where it said we must tolerate evil.

00:02:57.000 We should never tolerate evil as Christians, and we should never tolerate insanity.

00:03:04.000 So Riley Gaines did not end up winning the national championship.

00:03:08.000 She had to share the stage and the medal ceremony as Thomas, the biological man who thinks he is a woman, incorrectly thinks he is a woman.

00:03:18.000 And that's not even the big problem here.

00:03:20.000 The problem is he wants everyone else to think he's a woman.

00:03:23.000 That's the issue.

00:03:24.000 You see, they present it as, well, Charlie, how does that impact you?

00:03:27.000 Well, it really doesn't when somebody has an out-of-control imagination or a misguided delusion, it doesn't impact you.

00:03:35.000 It impacts you if you want me to go along with your delusion.

00:03:38.000 Or you're going to force me to go along with your delusion.

00:03:42.000 Or you're going to force women to not be able to win championships because of your delusion.

00:03:48.000 Then it absolutely impacts me.

00:03:50.000 And that's really the issue at hand here, isn't it?

00:03:53.000 And so there's other parts of the story that I think are worthy.

00:03:58.000 It's interestingly, some of the outrage that happened when I visited UC Davis when they tried to burn the campus down actually was rooted in an interview I had with Riley Gaines.

00:04:08.000 So there's a lot of intersection points here, but the reason I got fired up in that interview is Riley Gaines also mentioned that when she was competing in the NCAA championship, that Thomas, the biological male, exposed himself to the women in the locker room.

00:04:22.000 I don't know if you heard the story or not.

00:04:24.000 We used to call those people perverts, and we probably still should, quite honestly, because women should not have to be exposed to that.

00:04:33.000 Okay, so all of that is important, and we should talk about it, but that's actually not the main thing I want to share with you today. 1.00

00:04:39.000 The main thing I want to share with you is how we as Christians need to understand the clear and present danger that the ideology that transgenderism presents to decency and modern life. 1.00

00:04:52.000 Now, I'm being very precise with my words. 1.00

00:04:55.000 Are there nice people that are under the transgender delusion?

00:04:58.000 They're all made in the image of God, and they deserve help and compassionate care, which, by the way, is not chopping off their genitals at age 13 and putting them on Lupron and antidepressants.

00:04:58.000 Of course.

00:05:08.000 That's not compassion or caring for anybody.

00:05:10.000 But this is a very serious issue, and it's not going away.

00:05:14.000 And it's not something I take joy in.

00:05:17.000 It's not something I want to share with you with delight.

00:05:20.000 But we have to pinpoint this because the media refuses to talk about it.

00:05:24.000 Because they make it seem as if, oh, you're intolerant if you dare say anything about this. 0.77

00:05:30.000 You're hateful. 0.97

00:05:31.000 You're bigoted. 0.98

00:05:31.000 Okay, let's just go through the facts, okay? 0.98

00:05:34.000 There was a Christian school that was targeted as a hate crime, and three kids and three adults were killed by a transgender individual that was likely under a delusion of anti-Christian hate by this transgender ideology.

00:05:52.000 Okay? 0.63

00:05:53.000 We haven't seen the manifesto.

00:05:54.000 This is largely speculation, but we do know the essence of what she believed is her worldview.

00:06:00.000 There was another shooting that you might not have heard about that thankfully was thwarted in Colorado Springs of another transgender individual that wanted to shoot up Christians, shoot up Christian schools. 0.76

00:06:12.000 Thankfully, the police were able to intervene and praise God, arrest that person. 1.00

00:06:19.000 I could go through other examples as well that I think are important.

00:06:23.000 But this kind of violence and intimidation all of a sudden showed up at a turning point USA chapter event at San Francisco State University.

00:06:35.000 Now, I know some of you might say, Charlie, what are you guys doing events at San Francisco State University?

00:06:41.000 Why are you doing events at UC Davis and all this?

00:06:44.000 If you ask that question, I mean this lovingly, you are the problem.

00:06:49.000 If I am the issue for trying to have someone who should have been an NCAA swim champion to go talk about female sports with a liberal environment and I get accused of provocation, you're the problem.

00:07:03.000 You should be able to speak on any American college campus about decent and agreeable topics.

00:07:09.000 You should not have to silence yourself because people are going to act in a certain way.

00:07:15.000 Okay, so last Thursday, six nights ago, Riley Gaines shows up at San Francisco State University to go give a speech in kind of a classroom setting.

00:07:25.000 It was 100 people.

00:07:26.000 Many of you probably saw the footage.

00:07:28.000 It's worthy of exploring it.

00:07:29.000 But there's part of it you probably don't know, honestly, that I'm going to share with you that I think is really important.

00:07:34.000 So she shows up, she gives a speech, and of course she starts to get interrupted.

00:07:40.000 She starts to get harassed.

00:07:41.000 She gets assaulted. 0.83

00:07:42.000 And then she was basically pseudo-kidnapped by these trans activists. 0.94

00:07:46.000 Not an exaggeration.

00:07:47.000 These people stood outside of the room she was in, threatening more physical force and intimidation, saying, Pay us and we'll go away, saying that we're gonna, we want you to miss your flight, of which she did miss her flight, but I mean that worse things can happen, obviously.

00:08:01.000 I'm gonna play a short news clip for those of you unfamiliar with it, and then I'm gonna tell you how the university responded to this because this is this is almost terrorism, isn't it?

00:08:12.000 I mean, they're holding someone hostage, they're assaulting them, they're targeting them based on their beliefs.

00:08:16.000 Play this short clip from the great Tucker Carlson with Riley Gaines Gaines went to San Francisco State University to talk about her experiences in NCAA swimming.

00:08:27.000 And Riley Gaines is not a hater, she is a measured, decent person who believes in logic and reason and finding common ground with people who disagree with her.

00:08:37.000 She does not think she is God.

00:08:40.000 But that fact that she does not believe she's God makes her a terrifying threat to the zealots who do believe they're God.

00:08:47.000 And so at San Francisco State last night, the zealots attacked her.

00:08:51.000 A mob surrounded Riley Gaines and prevented her from moving through the hallways.

00:08:55.000 At one point, the thugs said they wouldn't let her pass unless she paid the money.

00:08:59.000 During the chaos, a man dressed as a woman punched her several times.

00:09:03.000 The mob howled with rage, screaming threats and obscenities.

00:09:06.000 We're not overstating.

00:09:07.000 Here's what it looked like.

00:09:17.000 I'm good.

00:09:29.000 I'm coming.

00:09:29.000 I'm good.

00:09:30.000 I'm good.

00:09:30.000 Trust me.

00:09:52.000 This is demonic.

00:09:55.000 We need to call it what it is.

00:09:57.000 And so the university responded.

00:10:01.000 The vice president of diversity of student affairs praised those protesters as thanking them for being peaceful.

00:10:11.000 Said that Riley Gaines was spreading hate on campus.

00:10:15.000 These are people that are paid by taxpayers that are in charge of your children when you send them to campus, college campus.

00:10:23.000 Said that there was too much security, so that agitated them.

00:10:27.000 And said that this was a proud moment for the university because the students acted against hate, kidnapping a guest speaker and using violence.

00:10:37.000 And it wasn't just one, it was several administrations that released, and they said, for any of the students that now need counseling services for the damage that you had to experience, it's now available.

00:10:48.000 And if you need to take off class, you can do so.

00:10:52.000 So, what's really going on here? 0.69

00:10:54.000 This is not about trans anything.

00:10:56.000 We can have that conversation.

00:10:57.000 I certainly have strong and heated opinions here. 1.00

00:11:00.000 No, no, this is this for Christians. 1.00

00:11:02.000 This is a wake-up call. 1.00

00:11:03.000 It should be. 1.00

00:11:04.000 If you're not awake to this issue, the T and LGBT stands for tyranny. 1.00

00:11:08.000 They're going to force you to believe this stuff, or they're going to pseudo-kidnap you. 1.00

00:11:13.000 They're going to intimidate you.

00:11:15.000 This is not live and let live.

00:11:18.000 This is live and let us rule.

00:11:21.000 I get sometimes people email me, oh, Charlie, come on, why do you have to talk about this issue?

00:11:26.000 Just leave them alone. 0.95

00:11:27.000 We have left them alone.

00:11:29.000 They're not leaving us alone.

00:11:31.000 That's the issue.

00:11:34.000 Is that they're now coming towards our institutions.

00:11:38.000 She was there to talk about female sports. 1.00

00:11:40.000 Riley Gaines never did anything towards a trans person. 1.00

00:11:44.000 A trans person came into her athletic competition and robbed her of a national championship. 1.00

00:11:50.000 So, how do we respond to this? 1.00

00:11:51.000 We're going to explore that deeper topic tonight.

00:11:56.000 But I do want to make sure, and I'm sure you all agree at this, but where is the church on this broadly?

00:12:03.000 How many pastors are speaking out about?

00:12:06.000 I mean, do you think less than 90% or more than 90% of pastors in the last couple weeks told their congregation that there was a Christian hate crime committed by someone who thought they were transgender?

00:12:17.000 I think less than probably 5% of pastors probably mentioned something. 0.81

00:12:21.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:12:23.000 So, we are living through times where people know something is wrong, where there is a violent ideology that is growing, and it is not isolated, by the way.

00:12:35.000 It is in our kids' classrooms, it's on social media, and now we are seeing actual carnage because of it.

00:12:41.000 And decent people need to stand up against it.

00:12:44.000 Turning Point USA is probably the most targeted organization right now in America.

00:12:49.000 The amount of death threats, that was at a Turning Point USA chapter meeting, the stuff we have to deal with.

00:12:54.000 And honestly, that shows that we're doing what we need to be doing.

00:13:03.000 And when you guys show up to this event, when you support Dream City, when you guys support Turning Point USA, that is what we do.

00:13:11.000 We show up to places of people that don't always agree with us, and we are going to stand for truth.

00:13:16.000 And honestly, God bless Riley Gaines.

00:13:18.000 You know why?

00:13:19.000 Because she's back on campus tomorrow at the University of Albany, other side of the country, where she has numerous death threats.

00:13:25.000 She has forced intimidation. 0.99

00:13:26.000 We're going to smash your head in. 1.00

00:13:28.000 We're going to kill you. 1.00

00:13:28.000 We're going to cut your head off, campus security, doing almost nothing. 1.00

00:13:31.000 But guess what? 0.99

00:13:32.000 She's going to show up with courage.

00:13:33.000 For those of you that say, Charlie, I don't know if I can stand up to my boss.

00:13:37.000 I don't know if I can tell my aunt.

00:13:39.000 How about this?

00:13:40.000 Draw some inspiration from the Turning Point USA students that literally put their lives on the line to fight for truth every day.

00:13:48.000 With that, let's welcome our guest, the great Bob McEwen.

00:13:51.000 Come on up, former congressman, president of the Council of National Policy.

00:13:55.000 We're going to have a great conversation.

00:13:57.000 Come on up.

00:14:04.000 Thank you very much.

00:14:06.000 The slides are ready if you want them.

00:14:07.000 Or do you describe it?

00:14:08.000 Yeah, well.

00:14:11.000 Mr. McEwen, welcome to Phoenix.

00:14:13.000 I am honored to be here.

00:14:15.000 And the scripture says to not withhold honor from whom honor is due.

00:14:19.000 We are all here because you're here.

00:14:22.000 And we're grateful for that.

00:14:28.000 And thanks does go to the amazing TP USA faith team.

00:14:32.000 I don't know if you know this, but in addition to everything we're doing at Turning Point USA, we're currently helping with and partnering with Sean Foyt in a 50-state state capital revival tour.

00:14:45.000 And many of you remember Sean here, so they're doing a great job and really proud of the work that they're doing.

00:14:50.000 And for this church to open up like this.

00:14:52.000 It just needs to be said every time we gather, if this is not your home church, you should reconsider.

00:14:57.000 I mean that.

00:14:57.000 This should be your home church.

00:14:59.000 Because, I mean, maybe there's another church locally.

00:15:02.000 There's a couple, and we have the pastors here, and we get to know them, but that are standing boldly and courageously.

00:15:06.000 But I'm not going to say any names of some of these local churches.

00:15:08.000 But I meet these people, they say, oh, I really wish my pastor would say something.

00:15:12.000 And you know what?

00:15:12.000 I always say, I wish you would leave that church and go to a pastor that is saying something.

00:15:16.000 Because, I mean, how much more time do you need?

00:15:18.000 Anyway, that's a separate issue.

00:15:21.000 Might be a little harsh, but I'm sure whatever.

00:15:26.000 Welcome.

00:15:27.000 I'm delighted to be here.

00:15:28.000 So, any immediate thoughts on this trans issue?

00:15:30.000 Because, I mean, you've seen a lot.

00:15:32.000 You have a lot of wisdom to share.

00:15:33.000 Well, if you were to ask me, what's the most important thing I ever learned in my entire life?

00:15:38.000 It would be this, that everything in life is either physical or spiritual.

00:15:46.000 And wisdom is the capacity to tell which is which.

00:15:51.000 And so if you think, for example, if I have enough physical relationships, I'll find love.

00:15:55.000 No, no, this fruit of the spirit is love.

00:15:57.000 So love is spiritual.

00:15:59.000 Love, joy.

00:16:01.000 If I just have a new car, get in a boat, have my own business, then I'll be happy.

00:16:04.000 No, no, happiness is spiritual.

00:16:06.000 Peace, you know, physical, they think if I just smoke this, man, I'll be at peace.

00:16:09.000 No, peace is not physical.

00:16:12.000 So in this, let's just take money, for example.

00:16:15.000 If I put a $1 bill, $10 bill, $100 bill, physically, they're all the same.

00:16:20.000 So money is spiritual, and America is spiritual.

00:16:23.000 You and I can't become Japanese or Chinese, but anybody can become an American because American is spiritual.

00:16:28.000 It stands for righteousness in the world.

00:16:31.000 Therefore, this battle is a spiritual battle.

00:16:35.000 And to where does a leader go that understands on a school board or a city council and they know something's not right, do they go to the editorial board or do they go to the faculty at the college?

00:16:48.000 They would like to go to the church.

00:16:50.000 And for too long, the church has allowed this nation to float and has missed those opportunities.

00:16:56.000 And quite frankly, I am excited at the moment because I believe, as you've heard me say, that we're now awakening to the battle.

00:17:05.000 You say, oh, this is terrible.

00:17:06.000 Look what's happening.

00:17:07.000 Well, we've been drifting here for a long time.

00:17:09.000 And finally, now we're starting to wake up.

00:17:12.000 And through leadership such as yours on college campuses around the country, I am optimistic that we're going, God's not dead yet.

00:17:21.000 So then we could talk about so many different things.

00:17:29.000 Let's start with this one. 1.00

00:17:30.000 Why should Christians care about these issues?

00:17:33.000 So some objections I heard.

00:17:36.000 Recently we got an email. 0.99

00:17:38.000 Charlie, the trans thing is fine, not fine, but I don't like it. 1.00

00:17:41.000 But, you know, Jesus is coming soon. 1.00

00:17:44.000 And in fact, he's coming next Thursday.

00:17:46.000 Why should I even care about this issue at all?

00:17:48.000 Let me, can I just take a moment to talk about America?

00:17:52.000 You know, we say things like, this is a great country and it's a wonderful, but why?

00:17:57.000 Let me just tell you, it's not only a good country, there's no country like this ever in the history of mankind.

00:18:02.000 Let's just walk through it a little bit.

00:18:04.000 Economically, half the world lives on less than $2 a day.

00:18:10.000 The second richest spot on earth is Western Europe, France, Germany, Britain.

00:18:14.000 There's a thing called the Rector study done every 18 months.

00:18:18.000 A person living in poverty in America is more likely to have a telephone, a television, an air conditioner, an automobile, eats more meat, has more square footage space than the average resident of the second richest spot on earth, Western Europe.

00:18:33.000 Now, Americans, only 4% of the world call themselves Americans.

00:18:39.000 And yet every year, those 4% write more books, more plays, symphonies, copyrights, more inventions than the other.

00:18:45.000 96% combined.

00:18:47.000 For thousands of years, people would hope to someday fly.

00:18:50.000 Americans invented the airplane and the light bulb.

00:18:53.000 Let's just take the airplane. 0.94

00:18:55.000 The tires on the airplane.

00:18:58.000 The vulcanization process was created by Charles Goodyear from Akron, Ohio.

00:19:04.000 And then the lights on there, the air conditioner, Willis Carrier, the airplane that the entire world uses, this nation has blessed the world as no other nation has.

00:19:17.000 Last year, over 300 times, ships were attacked on the high seas.

00:19:21.000 If you're attacked on the high seas, to whom can you appeal for help?

00:19:25.000 Whether you be a yacht in the Mediterranean or a British trawler in the Straits of Hormuz, only the 327,000 Americans wear the uniform of the United States Navy.

00:19:35.000 America is the standard for righteousness in the world.

00:19:39.000 Not only economically, but politically. 0.63

00:19:42.000 And so if 70% of 60 to 70% of all of maritime traffic goes up through the South China Sea, the South China Sea is protected by Americans.

00:19:54.000 So the world is stable because of this great country.

00:19:58.000 The rest of the world is dependent upon it.

00:20:00.000 The scripture says if you take a city, it must bind a strong man.

00:20:02.000 There's only one strong man in the world.

00:20:04.000 If you take America down, the rest of it is a piece of cake.

00:20:08.000 Therefore, in this battle, it's been entrusted to us.

00:20:12.000 And this country is very young.

00:20:13.000 You all know somebody 80 years old.

00:20:16.000 Three times 80 is 240.

00:20:17.000 It was 80 years from Washington to Lincoln, 80 years from Lincoln to Roosevelt, 80 years from Roosevelt to today.

00:20:22.000 A person who's lived 80 years has lived a third of the history of the United States.

00:20:25.000 This country has been entrusted to our generation, and we're not going to let it disappear.

00:20:31.000 Now, the rest of the world is hoping and praying that we'll do the right thing.

00:20:35.000 And I believe that, and let me just say two more things about that.

00:20:39.000 Never in the history of man has one nation had the capacity to overrun another nation, but what it didn't do it, with the single exception of the United States of America after World War II. 0.69

00:20:58.000 Prior to that time, whenever, that's why Churchill kept saying, Hitler, look at him. 0.82

00:21:02.000 If he's allowed to get away with that, you let him go into Czechoslovakia, then he'll take Poland.

00:21:06.000 If he takes Poland, he'll take France.

00:21:08.000 Whenever a country tries to do that, the only time we've ever had peace is with their stability. 0.51

00:21:15.000 After World War II, the United States could have taken any nation in the world.

00:21:19.000 And yet we didn't.

00:21:20.000 No other nation has been like that.

00:21:22.000 Number one.

00:21:22.000 Number two, never in the history of man has a nation shed blood and treasure for the freedom of another and never asked anything in return other than the United States of America.

00:21:36.000 I was on the Veterans Affairs Committee and we're talking to the folks in South Korea and mentioning how that the World War II veterans were passing away and how the Korean veterans were bearing in their body the burden of having brought freedom for what?

00:21:50.000 So that those people could be free.

00:21:52.000 But at the end of the Korean War, South Korea was third from the bottom, the third poorest nation on the planet.

00:21:57.000 Today it's the 10th richest nation, the 10th largest GDP in the world.

00:22:00.000 That's what America does for people. 0.83

00:22:02.000 Now, if that is allowed to dissipate, if the Chinese are able to take over the South China Sea, as is the threat at the moment, because weakness invites aggression, then they can say to the Japanese, who the fourth largest economy in the world, if you want to send your, you import 100% of your oil, your oil has to come from the Middle East. 0.87

00:22:28.000 There's going to be a 10, 15, 25% surcharge unless you break relations with Israel.

00:22:36.000 Well, now Japan has to decide, are they going to impact that? 0.60

00:22:41.000 The world hasn't seen in our generation what it's like to not have a righteous leader of the world.

00:22:47.000 And that's America.

00:22:49.000 We had built a canal in Panama.

00:22:52.000 Every ship that showed up, they got in line.

00:22:55.000 American ships got in line. 0.86

00:22:56.000 There are military bases on both ends of the military canal, thanks to Jimmy Carter, that are controlled by the Chinese. 0.93

00:23:03.000 Now, do you think the Chinese, given the opportunity, they can decide before that happen? 0.97

00:23:07.000 All of this is at risk because of our nation is threatened. 0.99

00:23:12.000 And we need to understand that when we say this is the greatest nation on earth, it's the greatest nation that ever has been.

00:23:19.000 And let me just conclude by that.

00:23:21.000 As I said, every year, more books, plays, sympathy, copyrights, inventions.

00:23:25.000 This nation has blessed the world.

00:23:27.000 So unlike any other nation, when a tsunami hits the largest Muslim, hits Indonesia, who do they call?

00:23:34.000 They call upon the grateful Americans that come to their aid.

00:23:37.000 So that has now been lovingly handed to us.

00:23:41.000 It's under threat.

00:23:42.000 And because of what you're doing, Charlie, and because of what we want to stand behind you in support, I have every assurance that this nation will continue to prosper.

00:23:54.000 I'll tell you later on why.

00:23:57.000 So explain in your how you would respond to a pastor who would say, that's all great, but I just do the gospel.

00:24:12.000 My job as a church is not to get into any of that stuff.

00:24:15.000 The gospel is important regardless of what happens to the nation.

00:24:20.000 You might laugh at that.

00:24:21.000 A majority of Christian pastors will say that.

00:24:25.000 In fact, I'm talking to one tomorrow. 0.99

00:24:27.000 Pray for me, not for him.

00:24:28.000 Okay?

00:24:29.000 So pray for that I have the fruit of the spirit of self-control because I'm losing patience with these people.

00:24:34.000 But, you know, Bob, some of them say, look, I mean, we're just here for Jesus.

00:24:38.000 We're here for the gospel.

00:24:40.000 America is...

00:24:42.000 Some are anti-American.

00:24:44.000 Some are not social justice-y, but they're not moved by that, Bob, because what we have is a generation of pastors that could not care less about the nation that they are in.

00:24:55.000 Part of that is ignorance.

00:24:58.000 And fear comes from a lack of knowledge.

00:25:01.000 Knowledge drives away fear.

00:25:03.000 And they don't understand why America is what it is.

00:25:07.000 If you take all the money that goes for global evangelism from the entire planet, the 96%, and you increase it five and a half times, that's still not as much as America gives.

00:25:18.000 This is the lighthouse for the gospel. 0.62

00:25:20.000 When they sweep out, I went to the countries in Central and Eastern Europe when they were leading communism.

00:25:27.000 They sweep out these churches and begin to have services for the first time.

00:25:30.000 To whom do they ask for hymnals and for Bibles?

00:25:33.000 They look to America.

00:25:34.000 We started a prayer breakfast in Kiev and Ukraine.

00:25:37.000 I've spoken to everyone for the last eight years.

00:25:40.000 And at the end, most last year, they've repeated, doesn't America understand?

00:25:45.000 So the United States is the lighthouse for the gospel.

00:25:49.000 There is no doubt about it. 0.99

00:25:51.000 Our dear pastor friends, Satan, by the way, is not stupid. 0.99

00:25:56.000 He knows how to do this. 0.66

00:25:57.000 And one of the things that he did about 40 years ago was to slip into the seminaries and to explain to them, to make it sound noble to do what is wrong.

00:26:06.000 And so he says, you know, you need to understand that when you get up there in the pulpit, that these politicians are going to come in and they're going to try to get your eyes off of Christ.

00:26:17.000 And you've got a greater calling.

00:26:19.000 Your greatest calling is to win souls for the Lord.

00:26:22.000 And so all these other people are going to try to turn your head and you have to keep them at bay.

00:26:27.000 And so our pastors, and we've done pastors' conferences for years, and we understand that they deliberately know how to let the air out of the tires because they have a misunderstanding of scripture and that they think that they're not accountable.

00:26:41.000 And so they say things like Romans 13 that we're supposed to submit.

00:26:46.000 And he said, you saw those people on the ramp.

00:26:48.000 They had those signs that were waving.

00:26:50.000 They think that they have an impact as God sets up kings and takes down kings.

00:26:53.000 Now, that's not correct.

00:26:54.000 That's not correct because under our system, we're accountable to God.

00:26:59.000 It's entirely different from the way it was in the Old Testament.

00:27:02.000 We're going to stand before God.

00:27:03.000 It's been entrusted to us.

00:27:05.000 And therefore, so when the pastor sits there and he tries to play this game that he doesn't want to get involved in somehow or another, that that's noble.

00:27:15.000 There was a parable of the talents in which he said to a person that had the opportunity to do something and didn't. 0.93

00:27:22.000 He said, you vile and worthless person.

00:27:25.000 And the Lord said that, which wasn't very nice about what he said. 0.98

00:27:30.000 He said, I gave you a tool and you didn't use it.

00:27:34.000 Now, these pastors do not fully understand their responsibility politically.

00:27:40.000 They don't understand how politics works.

00:27:42.000 And so they are subject to the task of this other misunderstanding.

00:27:47.000 You go to a Christian school, and all the folks that were activists in the 1960s, the radical leftists, they cut their hair and now they wear suits.

00:27:55.000 Most of them are bald now.

00:27:56.000 And they come back and they say to these college kids, they say, you know, Jesus never talked about abortion.

00:28:03.000 And Jesus never talked about gay marriage.

00:28:07.000 But he had a lot to say about helping the poor.

00:28:10.000 And, you know, these right-wingers, they're always talking about abortion and homosexuality and things.

00:28:17.000 Who do we want to be like?

00:28:19.000 Do we want to be like Jesus?

00:28:21.000 Or do we want to be like these haters?

00:28:23.000 Now, that sounds like it makes sense.

00:28:27.000 So what I do is when I come back, I quote it exactly what they say.

00:28:30.000 And then I take the scriptures and I say, fine.

00:28:35.000 I don't need a book.

00:28:36.000 I don't need a chapter.

00:28:38.000 I'll take one verse anywhere wherever God ever called upon a politician to use the police power of the state to take from one person and give to another.

00:28:47.000 He never did.

00:28:48.000 You never get points from stealing from other people.

00:28:51.000 Being like Jesus means living the way that he lived.

00:28:54.000 Therefore, there were 471 times we're told to help the poor.

00:29:03.000 The scriptures created three institutions, the church, the family, and the government.

00:29:11.000 Two-thirds of the time, the scripture says that the church should help the poor.

00:29:16.000 Pardon me, individuals should help the poor.

00:29:18.000 A third of the time it says the church.

00:29:18.000 You and me.

00:29:20.000 And I'll take any verse ever that says where God ever called upon the government.

00:29:24.000 He never did.

00:29:25.000 So, in the understanding of these pastors, it's their responsibility to care about our environment, that is, our neighborhood.

00:29:37.000 And without their leadership, the nation will flounder, and that's where we are at the moment.

00:29:42.000 And it's also about developing the spiritual health of your flock to create disciples, not just converts.

00:29:48.000 Because if you as a pastor are not communicating about these issues biblically, then somebody else is going to fill the void, and they're not going to do it from a biblical worldview.

00:29:58.000 And this is something I have found.

00:30:00.000 And this, you know, I ask pastors that don't talk about this, I say, well, okay, your congregation is going to end up making political conclusions eventually.

00:30:10.000 Wouldn't you want them to be doing it through a prism of a biblical worldview?

00:30:14.000 Wouldn't you want them to be looking at that through eternal scriptures, not through TikTok or through MSNBC or the New York Times?

00:30:22.000 A biblical worldview can answer every question for you.

00:30:26.000 When should I get married?

00:30:28.000 Should I have children?

00:30:29.000 What should I eat?

00:30:30.000 How should I act?

00:30:31.000 How should I vote?

00:30:32.000 Should I care about my country? 0.72

00:30:33.000 How should I treat other people?

00:30:35.000 Where do I go when I die?

00:30:36.000 Is there a hell?

00:30:37.000 The Bible has an answer to all those things.

00:30:39.000 A biblical worldview is a comprehensive way of looking at living.

00:30:44.000 And yet, what I think is a willingness problem, it really is a courage issue, isn't it?

00:30:48.000 Fear.

00:30:48.000 So you have a really good way of looking at, we have to either get our worldview from God or man.

00:30:54.000 Can you riff on that a little bit?

00:30:57.000 And in the consequence of the fear, I think pastors are fearful and fearful comes from a lack of knowledge.

00:31:02.000 Like I say, you hear a loud thud and you wake up in the middle of the night and you flip on the light, you see the cat knocked over the flowers.

00:31:08.000 The knowledge drives away fear.

00:31:09.000 And these folks don't know what to do.

00:31:10.000 And let me just remember: 365 times in the scripture, one for every day of the year, it says, fear not.

00:31:17.000 When Christ was walking on the waters, first words out of his mouth, fear not.

00:31:20.000 So he has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

00:31:26.000 Those are opposites, by the way.

00:31:27.000 When you're fearful, you're weak.

00:31:29.000 You can't love a person you're afraid of.

00:31:31.000 When you're fearful, you don't think straight.

00:31:33.000 And so, this idea of not understanding what the solution is and what is the solution.

00:31:40.000 When Moses was having a hard time, and you can imagine what it'd be like, his father-in-law came to him and said, You know, Moses, Lord and I were talking, and you're going to wear yourself out here, son.

00:31:50.000 And what you need to do is you need to have set up a government, federal, state, local government, put thousands, hundreds, and tens.

00:31:57.000 And now, there's three things that you should look for.

00:32:00.000 I can't give you a course in government.

00:32:01.000 You just need to have three things to know who to put there.

00:32:03.000 Number one, those that fear God.

00:32:07.000 Now, there's only two choices.

00:32:11.000 And the answer to every question, the first words out of your mouth, you can tell.

00:32:14.000 How do you feel about abortion?

00:32:16.000 It's, well, I think, or God says.

00:32:21.000 Those are the only two options.

00:32:22.000 And so, the question is: either you believe that man created God, or you believe that God created man.

00:32:35.000 And every other question flows from that.

00:32:39.000 That's the fork in the road.

00:32:40.000 If you believe that man just got here on his own, he climbed up out of the primoral slime and said, let's write a symphony, then you believe that he can then decide what is right or wrong.

00:32:49.000 He is his own standard.

00:32:51.000 If you believe that God created man, then you believe that God has a standard.

00:32:55.000 If you believe that man is his own standard, then you believe that man is basically good.

00:32:59.000 By what standard would he not be good?

00:33:02.000 If you believe that God has a standard, then you know that we're in need of a savior.

00:33:05.000 If you believe that man is basically good, then you believe that anything that goes wrong is not his fault because he's good.

00:33:14.000 So, if a person comes in here and starts shooting someone, then you know that there's something wrong with that, but it can't be his fault because he's good.

00:33:20.000 So, whose fault is it?

00:33:21.000 Well, it's got to be the gun's fault.

00:33:23.000 Got to regulate that gun coming in here doing those nasty things. 1.00

00:33:28.000 If guns kill people, how does anyone ever get out of a gun show alive, by the way?

00:33:32.000 Nevertheless, so or but finally, here's the most important: if you believe that man got here on his own, then where do rights come from?

00:33:43.000 And this is fundamental: they come from the group, they come from the tribe.

00:33:50.000 So, you hear people talk about women's rights, Hispanic rights, trans rights.

00:33:58.000 You and I know our rights don't come from the group, our rights come from God.

00:34:03.000 And the difference is, so when you listen to a politician, you listen to them for 60 seconds, they always are talking about these women's rights. 0.98

00:34:09.000 There are no blonde, left-handed rights, there's only rights that come from God. 1.00

00:34:13.000 And our founders started out, it's right there. 0.99

00:34:16.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident, which is a gracious Jeffersonian way of saying any idiot ought to understand this, Bozo. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Be blind, deaf, and dumb. 1.00

00:34:25.000 You ought to be able to say, This is self-evident, idiot. 1.00

00:34:27.000 That all men are created, are created equal, and are endowed by a five to four decision of the Supreme Court, are endowed by a majority, are endowed by their creator. 1.00

00:34:40.000 Now, wait, wait, I mean, he was a devil.

00:34:43.000 John 1:1.

00:34:44.000 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

00:34:48.000 Same was in the beginning with God.

00:34:51.000 All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

00:34:57.000 And the word became flesh and dwelt among us.

00:35:01.000 Who's that?

00:35:01.000 Jesus Christ, or the word, or God, or creator.

00:35:04.000 There's synonyms.

00:35:04.000 They're all the same.

00:35:05.000 Man is endowed by Jesus Christ.

00:35:06.000 Man is endowed by God.

00:35:07.000 Man is endowed by his creator with certain inalienable rights, and among those are life. 0.96

00:35:12.000 He said, That's between a woman and a doctor, and not one government involved in a better. 0.72

00:35:16.000 You're in the wrong country, honey, because it says in our birth that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.

00:35:24.000 The purpose of the United States government is to protect innocent life.

00:35:32.000 Then liberty.

00:35:35.000 Now notice the sequence.

00:35:37.000 See, liberty is of precious little value if you're dead.

00:35:41.000 So you have to have life first, then liberty, then sewer systems and overpasses.

00:35:47.000 But the first thing you do is life.

00:35:49.000 So you have every, and that will tell you 90% of all you ever need to know.

00:35:54.000 As Dennis Prager says, you ask a person two questions.

00:35:57.000 You ask a person where they stand on life.

00:35:59.000 That'll tell you what domestically.

00:36:01.000 Ask them where they stand on Israel, and that'll tell you where they stand internationally.

00:36:05.000 So our founders said our rights come from God for the purpose of government to protect life, then liberty.

00:36:13.000 I'll just give you an aside.

00:36:14.000 When rights don't come from God, they come from the group.

00:36:18.000 Every one of us is a minority.

00:36:22.000 Our rights are not secure.

00:36:24.000 Our daughter spent a year in Rwanda. 0.98

00:36:25.000 80% of the people in Rwanda are Hutu. 0.99

00:36:27.000 20% were Tootsie. 0.98

00:36:28.000 80% voted to kill the 20%. 0.76

00:36:30.000 In the course of 90 days with machetes, they chopped a million people to pieces. 0.96

00:36:33.000 That's democracy, by the way.

00:36:35.000 When democracy, rights come from the majority. 1.00

00:36:39.000 In America, you can vote 95 to 5 to kill Jews. 1.00

00:36:43.000 You can't do it. 1.00

00:36:44.000 Why?

00:36:45.000 Our rights don't come from the majority.

00:36:46.000 They come from God and give lives.

00:36:48.000 So every Jew knew that they could be chased from all over the planet.

00:36:51.000 If they get under the canopy of protection, the American flag, they would be safe.

00:36:54.000 That's what America, that's why this nation has been the blessing to the entire rest of the world.

00:36:59.000 So that battle.

00:37:01.000 And who is going to explain that?

00:37:04.000 Who should explain that?

00:37:06.000 Who can explain?

00:37:07.000 Only God's leaders.

00:37:10.000 Only the people in the pulpit.

00:37:11.000 The church is the one that has to explain why that is.

00:37:14.000 Now, let me just get back and clean up the democracy thing.

00:37:19.000 We use the term democracy.

00:37:21.000 Many members of Congress are not that involved intellectually, and so therefore they misuse the term.

00:37:29.000 And that is we democratically elect people to run the republic.

00:37:34.000 But our rights don't come from the folks.

00:37:40.000 Our rights don't come from the majority.

00:37:42.000 The word democracy, by the way, does not appear in any of our founding documents, nor any of the constitutions of the 50 states because our rights do not come from the majority.

00:37:51.000 Our rights come from God.

00:37:54.000 Hey, everybody, this is Charlie Kirk.

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00:39:11.000 And when it's mentioned in the Federalist Papers, it's incredibly negative.

00:39:19.000 They're attacking the idea of democracy.

00:39:21.000 It's called a mob.

00:39:22.000 Yep, I was on Tim Poole's program last week, and I was like, yeah, I think democracy is a bad idea.

00:39:29.000 And oh my goodness, the media lost their mind because they think all of a sudden that means I'm pro-authoritarian, which I'm not.

00:39:35.000 There's other forms of representative government other than democracy, such as a constitutional republic, which we actually have, not a democracy.

00:39:44.000 And just to zero in on the very important point, a republic is built on eternal truths that do not change based on emotions, needs, wants, or desires.

00:39:55.000 That's the idea of a republic.

00:39:57.000 It's built on things that will always be true.

00:40:00.000 The preamble of the United States Constitution is eternally applicable to human beings.

00:40:05.000 Democracies change all the time.

00:40:07.000 France, they redo a Constitution every afternoon.

00:40:10.000 It's not a joke.

00:40:12.000 I mean, nothing sticks.

00:40:13.000 It's not stable.

00:40:15.000 The founding fathers are able to build one structure that lasts.

00:40:19.000 It's because they were classically trained.

00:40:22.000 They knew their Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle.

00:40:25.000 But most importantly, they knew their scriptures.

00:40:28.000 So they knew not just practical knowledge, but they knew eternal knowledge.

00:40:32.000 Eternal is the knowledge.

00:40:34.000 Eternal knowledge is wisdom, the knowledge of things that do not change.

00:40:37.000 How do human beings act?

00:40:39.000 Who deserves power?

00:40:40.000 How long should they have power?

00:40:41.000 These are things that they built the system around, which is why the Constitution is the longest-lasting political document centered around consent to the governed in the history of the planet.

00:40:52.000 Nothing has ever lasted as long.

00:40:53.000 And that's a big deal.

00:40:54.000 When something lasts long, we should not try to discard it like the university maniacs try to.

00:41:00.000 We should appreciate it and study it and ask the question why.

00:41:03.000 I always get a kick when people say, well, Charlie, you trying to tell me, you know, you believe the Bible is the word of God?

00:41:10.000 It's 2,000 years old.

00:41:12.000 They mean that as an insult, which is, it's actually a red herring.

00:41:16.000 It doesn't matter how old it is. 0.99

00:41:17.000 But I actually think it's in our favor.

00:41:21.000 The fact that it's so old and that we still study it means that it's probably true.

00:41:27.000 It means that every generation of the smartest people have had a chance to nitpick this thing and it still lasts and it gains in popularity.

00:41:36.000 That every generation has a chance to poke holes in it, to cross-examine it, to tell us why it's wrong, and it only gets stronger and it's in more languages and more continents and read by more people.

00:41:48.000 That means that that thing is probably something you should study and that it's true.

00:41:53.000 It's the opposite of what they're saying.

00:41:55.000 So let's just focus on that.

00:41:58.000 I want to close with this and then we'll do some questions.

00:42:00.000 I want to give a little bit more time for questions tonight than we typically do because I think it'll be fun.

00:42:05.000 Talk about how the founders cared about the Bible, why the Bible matters, and how our country is based on biblical principles.

00:42:14.000 It has to be based on only one of two things.

00:42:16.000 It's either based on man's idea or it's based on God's idea.

00:42:21.000 And they'd read the scriptures and they based it on God's idea.

00:42:26.000 Now you say, well, America is not perfect.

00:42:29.000 Let me just tell you, America is more perfect than any place you've ever seen.

00:42:33.000 And every time someone wants to complain, particularly Democrats, who want to complain about an error that America took place in America, it's not the fault of the United States.

00:42:43.000 It's the fault of their decision that they were the ones that wanted it.

00:42:47.000 So in July 4th, 1776, prior to that time, slavery was ubiquitous.

00:42:52.000 It was throughout history.

00:42:53.000 Until one day, 56 Americans in the Declaration of Independence said, from this day forward, our rights come from God, not from the property that you own, not your bloodline, not because of how much money you have, but because God made you.

00:43:06.000 And from that, slavery then became anathema.

00:43:10.000 And it's taken a hard time to try to get rid of it all.

00:43:12.000 And it keeps popping up here and there.

00:43:14.000 And there were some folks that rights come from the group, and they wanted to deny it.

00:43:19.000 And so they deny, continue slavery and deny freedom.

00:43:23.000 And so they fought America.

00:43:24.000 It had to get rid of it. 0.63

00:43:25.000 And then they came back with Jim Crow and they talked about how that America wouldn't let blacks sit in the front of the bus.

00:43:31.000 That's not true.

00:43:32.000 Americans didn't do any such thing.

00:43:34.000 Democrats did.

00:43:36.000 You want to talk about Rosa Parks?

00:43:38.000 Rosa Parks said in that bus company was the National City Bus Company from Chicago, Illinois, ran buses in 38 cities in 16 states.

00:43:49.000 They wouldn't mistreat their customers.

00:43:51.000 But the city council in Alabama said that if a white person got on and there weren't any seats, they had to stand up and let them sit down.

00:43:57.000 And Rosa Parks said, in America, I don't have to do that. 0.99

00:44:00.000 So all they had to do was take it and go to court.

00:44:04.000 And they said, you can't treat anybody like that.

00:44:05.000 Now, it happened one time when those Democrats did that, but that's not America.

00:44:08.000 And yet the average teenager is told that that's the way America treated them.

00:44:11.000 No, we didn't.

00:44:12.000 That's the way you did it, brother.

00:44:14.000 And that's what you're content.

00:44:15.000 We had to fight a war, and you're still trying to get people identified, even little kids trying to identify them based upon their skin color, because they think rights come from the group.

00:44:25.000 And we do not believe rights come from the group.

00:44:27.000 We believe that rights come from God.

00:44:29.000 So that was the fundamental difference, and it continues to fight to this day.

00:44:34.000 Beautifully said.

00:44:35.000 Let's start lining up for some questions, everybody.

00:44:39.000 Bob is a wealth of knowledge, I got to tell you, and he's just barely touching on what he learned when he was in Congress.

00:44:46.000 You know, there's some very good members of Congress.

00:44:49.000 Senator Josh Hawley, who I'm trying to get here for a Freedom Night, by the way, he has a new book coming out on masculinity.

00:44:55.000 We're going to get that done.

00:44:57.000 Senator Rand Paul is great.

00:45:00.000 There's some really good members.

00:45:02.000 But what percentage of members of Congress do you think intellectually grasp what we just talked about as people are lining up for questions, either side?

00:45:12.000 I think most Republicans do.

00:45:14.000 I really do.

00:45:15.000 I don't know.

00:45:17.000 I think they say it.

00:45:18.000 I don't think they actually could do what we're doing right now.

00:45:22.000 Well, that's a possibility.

00:45:24.000 I will say this about you, Charlie.

00:45:26.000 Very few people can do what you do.

00:45:28.000 Well, no, that's.

00:45:29.000 Anybody, anybody can.

00:45:31.000 You just have to work at it.

00:45:33.000 All right, we'll start over there with the Pfizer shirt.

00:45:35.000 Well, it's not really a Pfizer shirt.

00:45:38.000 It says freedom, but it has a P.

00:45:40.000 This is a Pfizer.

00:45:41.000 It's cool, yeah.

00:45:42.000 You guys can line up on either side.

00:45:44.000 We're going to take some extra time for questions.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, I don't know how I got first in line.

00:45:46.000 You guys got to line up.

00:45:47.000 Come on.

00:45:48.000 So my question is, how many years would you think it takes to get enough wisdom to start understanding spiritual and real that topic you were talking about?

00:46:02.000 Okay, so there's a couple different ways to get wisdom.

00:46:06.000 You can get wisdom through life experience, and you will get wisdom through life experience.

00:46:11.000 However, that is not the only way to get wisdom.

00:46:14.000 The first and most important way to get wisdom is to fear God.

00:46:17.000 The Bible says that wisdom starts with the fear of the Lord.

00:46:20.000 There's no wisdom on American college campuses because there's no God on American college campuses. 0.99

00:46:25.000 That's why they say men give birth. 1.00

00:46:28.000 And so if you're curious about pursuing eternal knowledge, then you need to get serious about studying.

00:46:35.000 Two hours a day, turn your phone off.

00:46:37.000 I do at least three hours a day reading, podcasting, listening to lectures, Hillsdale online courses, studying the 400 hours of Dennis Prager teaching the first five books of Moses.

00:46:47.000 If you want to go to sleep, listen to Dennis Prager talk about teaching Leviticus.

00:46:53.000 I'm half kidding.

00:46:54.000 It's not him.

00:46:55.000 It's just tough.

00:46:56.000 When you get to Leviticus 17 and they're talking about a ritual of killing a lamb, you're like, wow, this is impressive he's able to make it as interesting as he is.

00:47:07.000 But it takes work because all of a sudden the distractions of the world come in.

00:47:10.000 I could be doing this or I could be doing that.

00:47:13.000 And we host three hours of radio every day.

00:47:15.000 I have to keep up on the news, but you get what you point at.

00:47:19.000 We're aiming creatures.

00:47:20.000 It's one thing Jordan Peterson gets right. 0.96

00:47:22.000 And the Bible is correct.

00:47:24.000 You ask and you shall receive, but you got to work at it.

00:47:26.000 So if you want to be wise and you read people that are wiser than you, that are no longer living, that have published something 100 plus years before.

00:47:34.000 If it's still around and still popular, you might say, well, Charlie, what is that?

00:47:37.000 Do you know who Thomas Aquinas is?

00:47:39.000 If not, you should get to know it.

00:47:40.000 Read the Summa Theologica.

00:47:41.000 It will change your life.

00:47:42.000 Every Christian should read it.

00:47:43.000 It's the greatest defense for the existence of God.

00:47:45.000 Read your Aristotle, your Plato.

00:47:47.000 You do not have to go to college to know this.

00:47:48.000 In fact, it works in your favor.

00:47:50.000 You have not gone to college.

00:47:51.000 I didn't go to college because I have no deprogramming to have to go through to be able to learn these things.

00:47:51.000 Absolutely.

00:47:57.000 And then learn about the founding fathers.

00:47:59.000 Learn about your nation.

00:48:00.000 Learn about economics.

00:48:01.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:48:01.000 You could spend a decade reading Thomas Sowell.

00:48:04.000 If every American read Thomas Sowell, we would be a freer and a better country.

00:48:08.000 And if you don't know who Thomas Sowell is, he will infinitely bless you with his ability to diagnose economic problems.

00:48:14.000 So you can get wisdom at a young age.

00:48:17.000 And then the truly wise person does not tell you what they know, but they ask the right questions.

00:48:24.000 And so that would be what I would say.

00:48:26.000 What's your response?

00:48:28.000 It's an excellent question.

00:48:30.000 And it's the perfect answer. 0.98

00:48:31.000 And right at the tail end, you ask silly questions, you get silly answers. 0.93

00:48:34.000 You ask mediocre questions, you get mediocre. 0.86

00:48:36.000 Ask profound questions, you get profound answers.

00:48:38.000 And that is a profound question.

00:48:41.000 Wisdom only comes from two sources.

00:48:42.000 It comes from experience.

00:48:44.000 So that's why it's impossible for a young person to have the wisdom of an older person.

00:48:47.000 But there are some things we've never experienced before.

00:48:50.000 So the scripture says, if any man lacked wisdom, let him ask of God who gives to all men liberally, and he doesn't scold us for asking.

00:48:56.000 And so that's what our founders did.

00:48:58.000 And so you see, they worked for several weeks.

00:49:01.000 They could agree upon absolutely nothing.

00:49:03.000 They began to break apart.

00:49:05.000 And then Benjamin Franklin, a sponsor of the first awakening and a man who stood up and spoke spontaneously and used 14 scriptural references off the top of his head.

00:49:18.000 You never hear anything about Thomas Jefferson, promiscuity, or all this other nonsense prior to World War I when they began to deconstruct our founders.

00:49:25.000 But he began to say, he saw the thing was falling apart and he asked to speak for the first time, one of only four people that had been in the same room 11 years earlier when they signed the Declaration of Independence.

00:49:34.000 Now they're trying to write the Constitution and it's not working well because 50% of the people lived in three states, 50% of the people lived in 10 states.

00:49:41.000 Now there's no way around that.

00:49:42.000 And so he said, I'm an old man.

00:49:46.000 But one thing I've learned is that God governs in the affairs of men.

00:49:51.000 And if a sparrow cannot fall without his notice, is it probable that an empire could rise without his aid?

00:49:55.000 It's if we've been instructed in the sacred writings, except the Lord build the house.

00:49:58.000 They labor in vain that build it.

00:49:59.000 Well, I believe this, that we shall be no more successful in this political building without his aid than were the builders of battle.

00:50:05.000 He said, in the battle with Great Britain, we had daily prayer in this room.

00:50:09.000 Our prayers were heard, and they were graciously answered.

00:50:12.000 And then, this isn't 200 years later, this is 11 years later.

00:50:15.000 He said, have we now forgotten this powerful friend?

00:50:19.000 Or do we imagine we no longer need him?

00:50:21.000 And so then he goes on and says some more things.

00:50:23.000 You can look it up at June 28th, 1787.

00:50:25.000 You get the whole speech.

00:50:26.000 He said, I move that we recess for fasting and prayer.

00:50:29.000 And let us see what God might do.

00:50:31.000 And so they did.

00:50:32.000 They met back on their knees the following day.

00:50:35.000 Then they put together in the next seven and a half weeks the Constitution of the United States, the oldest government on the planet.

00:50:41.000 Every government has changed repeatedly since that time.

00:50:43.000 And they said, we need to let those people understand where this came from.

00:50:47.000 He said, the wisdom didn't come from us.

00:50:48.000 It came from God.

00:50:49.000 Therefore, Congress shall never meet without first calling upon God in prayer.

00:50:54.000 And it's never met without doing that.

00:50:56.000 And then where does our rights come from?

00:50:58.000 Either from what you say or what I say or what God says.

00:51:01.000 Therefore, whether it be dog catcher or president of the United States, in order to have a position of public trust in America, you must first swear allegiance on the Bible. 0.88

00:51:09.000 Then, to remind folks as to where America is, why it's different, this 4% that's blessed the entire world, why every official document, every law, every presidential proclamation. 0.78

00:51:21.000 When you're all finished, it says, I want to remind you the two times that the world changed.

00:51:25.000 Number one, in this, the year of our Lord, the 2023, and of the independence of the United States, the 242nd.

00:51:35.000 That's to remind people, that's when things changed, and that's the source of our wisdom.

00:51:40.000 Thank you.

00:51:45.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:51:47.000 On any money or anything we have, it says, in God we trust.

00:51:53.000 Our founders trusted in God.

00:51:55.000 Everyone trusted in God back then.

00:51:57.000 But now, 37% of the people in America don't trust God.

00:52:03.000 And they don't believe. 0.94

00:52:08.000 Some of them are just, most of them are trans.

00:52:13.000 And not most, but we're trending in that direction. 1.00

00:52:17.000 Give it a couple years.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:20.000 But anyway, how do we get America back to the way it was?

00:52:26.000 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:52:30.000 So my answer is going to be challenging to some people because I think one of the big issues has been the overemphasis on the macro.

00:52:44.000 And I'm big on macro.

00:52:45.000 I do a whole radio show on macro.

00:52:47.000 But there's a reason why the self-improvement types are more popular than ever right now.

00:52:53.000 It's because those of us that have a Christian conservative worldview, our whole metaphysics, of course, is macro.

00:53:04.000 Jesus is going to come and he's going to retake his throne.

00:53:08.000 However, I'm afraid that at times we abdicate how important our micro actions are.

00:53:15.000 Getting married, having children, building businesses, giving back charitably.

00:53:20.000 I do not know how to save the macro in the short term.

00:53:23.000 They have captured every major institution.

00:53:26.000 You better believe I'm going to dedicate my entire life to building either new institutions or taking back these institutions.

00:53:33.000 I will not forget that.

00:53:34.000 But I also, what is liberating for me is believing that, yes, God is in charge, but also that out of love of God and obedience to God, my micro actions really matter.

00:53:47.000 That I'm going to keep on showing up, even though I don't know if it's going to yield the result I want.

00:53:53.000 And so, you know, Martin Luther had a terrific quote.

00:53:57.000 He said, even if the world was ending today, I would plant an apple tree, which means that you should do things that are going to yield fruit beyond your life today, even though things do not look good on the nightly news.

00:54:13.000 And so I have no idea how to save the macro.

00:54:17.000 There's a satanic force that is going through our country.

00:54:20.000 The church needs to be part of the solution.

00:54:23.000 But I do know confidently that millions of people committing to micro action is one of our greatest hopes.

00:54:31.000 I really believe that.

00:54:32.000 Because the opposite I'm seeing to start to happen, and this is not a small thing.

00:54:37.000 We receive, I have a human laboratory as I run my radio program.

00:54:40.000 And we get thousands of emails.

00:54:42.000 If anyone watches on Real America's Voice, yeah, well, thank you guys for you guys are amazing.

00:54:46.000 My favorite listeners are on Real America's Voice.

00:54:49.000 They're hyper-engaged, incredibly patriotic, and very opinionated, incredibly opinionated.

00:54:55.000 And so we got thousands of emails the other day where I said, okay, for those of you over the age of 50, do you think people should have children today?

00:55:04.000 And I would say about 10% would say no.

00:55:06.000 And these are Christian conservatives.

00:55:08.000 And it's not because of a biblical reason.

00:55:10.000 They said, no, the world is so dark, it's so terrible.

00:55:12.000 It's unloving to bring kids into this world.

00:55:16.000 That's an evil thing to believe.

00:55:18.000 Let me just be very clear.

00:55:19.000 That is an evil, evil thing to say, I am not going to be fruitful and multiply because I don't like the headline on CNN.

00:55:27.000 And so there is a disturbing, cynical reaction that we have to stop.

00:55:33.000 It is a sin of despair, as Dennis Prager said.

00:55:36.000 And you have to do righteous and virtuous things daily, regardless, and leave the macro to God.

00:55:44.000 It will make you happier.

00:55:45.000 You can release yourself.

00:55:47.000 But at least you can know that your own micro-obedient action is in alignment with how God wants you to live.

00:55:53.000 You have something you want to add to that?

00:55:55.000 That's the answer.

00:55:57.000 I would only add this: that we're responsible for the depth of our ministry.

00:56:01.000 The Lord is responsible for the breadth.

00:56:03.000 So we do what he called us to do, and we can't always see it.

00:56:07.000 The Apostle Paul was sitting in prison.

00:56:11.000 The churches look to me like they're all falling apart.

00:56:13.000 And he says, I have fought the good fight.

00:56:15.000 I have finished the work.

00:56:16.000 Finished, son.

00:56:17.000 It looks to me like you barely got started.

00:56:19.000 Things chaos.

00:56:20.000 No, he had done what God had called him to do.

00:56:23.000 And you have reason.

00:56:24.000 Well, look how terrible everything in Rome is turning against me, and I'm in prison.

00:56:28.000 Why is he in prison?

00:56:29.000 The scripture says Paul planted, Apollos watered, and the Lord gave the increase.

00:56:35.000 That means Apollos traveled with him as a party.

00:56:38.000 You can't tell me one thing that Apollos ever said or did.

00:56:40.000 Why?

00:56:41.000 Because he was never put in jail.

00:56:43.000 And when Paul was put in jail, now we know what he would have said to the Galatians, what he would have said to the Thessalonians, what he would have said to the Corinthians.

00:56:51.000 It was God's plan to tie him down to do that.

00:56:54.000 And yet he said, I decide whatever state I am there with to be content.

00:56:57.000 I'm not going to question God.

00:56:58.000 So in this battle of doing things, we're responsible to do what he called us to do.

00:57:03.000 And we can't be looking out all over, oh, look at how terrible everything is over here.

00:57:06.000 No, we do what he called us.

00:57:07.000 The Lord was on the cross, on the cross.

00:57:11.000 He spent three years with his best buddies, his friends.

00:57:15.000 Not even they showed up.

00:57:17.000 He's all by himself.

00:57:18.000 And what did he say?

00:57:19.000 It is finished.

00:57:22.000 Finished?

00:57:23.000 You barely, nobody's hit your mother.

00:57:25.000 That doesn't count.

00:57:26.000 I mean, he had done what God had called him to do.

00:57:32.000 And that's our responsibility is to be faithful to him.

00:57:35.000 And then God uses it the way we should be.

00:57:37.000 And don't ever allow Satan to use the waves to focus.

00:57:42.000 My father had it on our mirror in our bathroom growing up.

00:57:47.000 Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off Christ.

00:57:51.000 And when you don't look at him, you start looking at the water and you say, look at what's happening.

00:57:55.000 Look what the school board is doing over here. 1.00

00:57:56.000 Look what's happening.

00:57:57.000 That'll wear you out.

00:57:58.000 Keep your eyes on him.

00:57:59.000 Do what he called you to do.

00:58:00.000 He'll handle the rest.

00:58:01.000 And remember, Jesus went to the cross obediently, not willingly.

00:58:06.000 Your will, not my will.

00:58:08.000 Thank you.

00:58:08.000 You bet.

00:58:09.000 Great question.

00:58:10.000 On your lead-in to micro-solutions, I just wanted to ask a question.

00:58:14.000 Did you hear about Jack Hibbs' announcement on YouTube Monday night that they got the school board to agree to an ordinance that parents would be notified if their child asked for any psychological counseling or any trans worries in complete opposition to what the state legislature would not allow?

00:58:37.000 So can you replicate that?

00:58:39.000 You said you're macro, but that's a micro example.

00:58:42.000 Yeah, I mean, it's we have a lot going on, but I'm telling you, all of us together, we have to combine our forces.

00:58:48.000 Turning point action is the place to do this, to take back the Scottsdale Unified School District Board.

00:58:53.000 It's long past time.

00:58:54.000 You know, many of those people need to be fired.

00:58:57.000 And look, you could tell by the scant applause, there's just not a lot of engagement in that.

00:59:02.000 We've tried, but is that your question?

00:59:05.000 Or, okay.

00:59:07.000 You know, in certain areas, the school board issue is really hot.

00:59:10.000 It was hot here, but honestly, it's been really hard to rally people behind it, even though the head of the Scottsdale School Board has said some of the most vicious anti-white stuff you could imagine.

00:59:19.000 And I could look at it.

00:59:20.000 So I hope we can get people engaged and involved.

00:59:23.000 We have a deeper Arizona political problem right now, which is I'm seeing more cynicism than I've ever seen in any political climate by doing this in 11 years.

00:59:31.000 It's a major problem.

00:59:33.000 We have so many great patriots that are telling me, I'm never going to vote.

00:59:36.000 I'm never going to be engaged.

00:59:37.000 Everything's broken.

00:59:38.000 Everything's terrible.

00:59:39.000 We got to fix it.

00:59:41.000 And I think it's an understandable sentiment post-the Cary Lake debacle, but it's not a proper attitude to have because that is wrong.

00:59:50.000 So that's a side note, but I'm really worried.

00:59:55.000 I'm concerned if we don't sort that out sometime soon.

00:59:58.000 But yeah, Jack Kibbs is a man.

01:00:00.000 Thank you for mentioning that.

01:00:01.000 So, all right.

01:00:04.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:00:05.000 Why do Democrats erase certain parts of history?

01:00:10.000 I didn't hear it.

01:00:11.000 It was addressed to me, but the question was: why does the left erase some parts of history?

01:00:18.000 Well, probably embarrassed for one thing.

01:00:23.000 They want to have a corporate responsibility.

01:00:25.000 They want to blame everybody for what they did.

01:00:28.000 And America was founded to be a lighthouse for the gospel, and it's been so.

01:00:33.000 Has everybody been perfect?

01:00:34.000 It was there to end slavery and to help the poor.

01:00:34.000 No.

01:00:37.000 Do we still have poor and a fight?

01:00:39.000 Yes.

01:00:40.000 But America, as a unit, stands for righteousness.

01:00:44.000 There are those that want to tear it down, and the second they walk in.

01:00:47.000 I mean, just five or six years ago, New York was the safest major city in the world.

01:00:53.000 Those folks come in the very first day.

01:00:56.000 They turn out and say that if you want to urinate on the sidewalk, we won't arrest you.

01:01:00.000 If you want to jump at the turnstile and sleep in the subway 24 hours a day, you can do it.

01:01:04.000 And they immediately turn the place into a mess.

01:01:06.000 And then they want to blame the country for what they did.

01:01:08.000 So that's what the left does for a living. 0.96

01:01:10.000 They never run for office and say, didn't we do a great job in the Chicago school district?

01:01:15.000 Didn't we do a really wonderful job making California a wonderful place?

01:01:18.000 The only way they run for office is they attack their opponents.

01:01:22.000 They call them names.

01:01:24.000 And when Gavin Newsom was up for re-election, he took $136 million.

01:01:29.000 He targeted one opponent.

01:01:30.000 He called him every name in the world and made that between them.

01:01:35.000 He was mayor of San Francisco.

01:01:37.000 He was lieutenant governor of the state.

01:01:39.000 He was governor of the state.

01:01:40.000 You think in there someplace there would have been one thing he'd been proud of.

01:01:43.000 Nope.

01:01:44.000 He couldn't find one thing that he was proud of.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, and I mean, history is a teacher.

01:01:51.000 And American history, properly understood, should make you very thankful.

01:01:57.000 The left has to make sure the citizenry is ungrateful.

01:02:04.000 The left is filled with ungrateful people.

01:02:06.000 Ingratitude drives resentment.

01:02:09.000 And resentment is the life force of the American left.

01:02:13.000 They are driven by resentment.

01:02:16.000 So history, properly understood, stifles resentment.

01:02:19.000 It makes you proud.

01:02:21.000 It makes you happy.

01:02:22.000 It makes you thankful for the exceptional nature when you realize how rare it is to have self-government, to understand the brilliance of the founders, to understand how this was able to come together.

01:02:34.000 This is why one of the reasons why I can't stand when people overly complain about their circumstances in America.

01:02:41.000 You might be going through something tough, but the biggest battle you have is with your own nature every single day.

01:02:48.000 Resentment will destroy you from within.

01:02:51.000 As a Christian, you're not allowed to be resentful.

01:02:53.000 You have to be the opposite of resentful.

01:02:54.000 You have to be hopeful.

01:02:56.000 You have to be thankful.

01:02:57.000 And so if they properly taught history, we would have a nation that would be filled with gratitude, and that would make them less powerful.

01:03:04.000 Thank you.

01:03:05.000 That's great.

01:03:06.000 That's good.

01:03:10.000 Hello.

01:03:11.000 As a fourth generation Arizonan and having a family that has worked towards the infrastructure of Arizona, I've had teachers in my family, APS workers.

01:03:23.000 My mother worked for the courts for quite a while.

01:03:25.000 And they are Democratic, the registered Democratic voters.

01:03:29.000 I myself am an independent.

01:03:31.000 I don't like to mix church and state, but Freedom Night is about talking about my freedom.

01:03:36.000 So I am humbled in my neighborhood by my neighbors.

01:03:42.000 And my father has been there since 1985, and we are being treated like third-class citizens.

01:03:49.000 And it's kind of been a nightmare, you know, with upside-down flags flying in every direction, and me trying to just talk in my backyard to my sponsor who recently passed away.

01:04:02.000 She was my recovery sponsor, and she was, you know, registered Democrat.

01:04:10.000 And I just, is there going to, do you think, what do you think could be done about possibly like spiritual tactical measures implemented into maybe cybersecurity and as well as security in our neighborhoods for freedom of speech?

01:04:25.000 What do you think can be done in a state like Arizona that they don't want to admit it's going to be a purple state?

01:04:33.000 I believe in a purple state.

01:04:34.000 I call it a purple state because the balance.

01:04:37.000 Are you grasping the question, Bob?

01:04:38.000 No.

01:04:39.000 You covered a lot of ground there.

01:04:40.000 I want to compliment you for that.

01:04:42.000 Can you just summarize the question in 10 seconds or less?

01:04:46.000 What can be done for security measures in cybersecurity?

01:04:46.000 Yes.

01:04:52.000 Sure.

01:04:53.000 So, I mean, look, the Arizona legislature needs to come together.

01:04:57.000 I believe federally we're at risk of a massive EMP attack in our country, and no one wants to talk about how we are vulnerable to an electromagnetic pulse.

01:05:06.000 We allow balloons to fly over.

01:05:08.000 They very well could have dropped an EMP that would have impoverished America.

01:05:12.000 That's a separate issue.

01:05:13.000 But yeah, I mean, you want to talk about the vulnerabilities in American critical infrastructure. 0.80

01:05:17.000 Our leaders are more interested in sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine when we have legitimate cybersecurity flaws that could be exploited by the Chinese almost any day here.

01:05:28.000 You might have different opinions than me on the Ukraine issue. 0.97

01:05:31.000 That's fine.

01:05:31.000 I think we can all agree that we should invest in our own cybersecurity and our own infrastructure before what's going on abroad.

01:05:38.000 Thank you very much.

01:05:41.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm wanting to know.

01:05:46.000 I mean, after tonight, I'm definitely going to be considering this as my home church after what you said.

01:05:52.000 You know, I've been here before, but definitely going to call it home now.

01:05:57.000 But for people in my family or friends that don't call this type of a church home where their pastors are willing to stand up against COVID mandates and things like that, how best might I advise them or when I'm a guest at those churches with them, how best do we go about those scenarios?

01:06:19.000 Because it almost seems like better to put them on a spot on a church day, or it might be better, you know, private conversations and they both have their place.

01:06:30.000 But like what?

01:06:31.000 Yeah, I would try to do it privately.

01:06:32.000 I would ask questions, right?

01:06:33.000 And the best question is: hey, has the pastor mentioned anything in the last year that helps you make sense of the news?

01:06:40.000 And you say no, right?

01:06:42.000 Yeah, I mean, and that's the answer to the question.

01:06:45.000 99% of pastors, not 99%, let's just say 90% of American pastors will not offer or bless their flock with the understanding of how to make sense of the news.

01:06:56.000 That's a simple way to actually say something a lot deeper.

01:06:59.000 That's why Dream City is growing.

01:07:01.000 That's why Jack Hibbs is growing.

01:07:03.000 You have to do it from a biblical perspective, obviously.

01:07:06.000 But if you want to know one of the major drivers of people's interest, their anxieties, especially believers, you know, they flip on the radio, listen to podcasts, listen to Spotify, they're listening to something, they're hearing things that are confusing, and they're begging their pastor to help them understand it.

01:07:23.000 And their pastor is unwilling.

01:07:26.000 And you can have your own theological twist on it, right?

01:07:29.000 But say something.

01:07:31.000 Like, I mean, and this is what just drives me nuts.

01:07:33.000 Can I ask you another question, if that's okay?

01:07:35.000 Ask your family members, hey, did your pastor mention or celebrate the reversal of Roe versus Wade last summer?

01:07:42.000 Did you guys fast and pray for many days for the amazing intervention of God thanks to the multiple decades of Christian activism?

01:07:49.000 And now millions of babies' lives are going to be saved.

01:07:51.000 I'm not going to put you on the spot if the church, if the answer is no, you should leave that church.

01:07:56.000 It's that simple.

01:07:57.000 This was an act of the divine coming in to save millions of babies' lives.

01:08:03.000 And I can't get a whisper out of most churches.

01:08:05.000 A whisper.

01:08:07.000 I was with a group of Christians.

01:08:09.000 I said, how many of your pastors say that?

01:08:11.000 And probably five hands out of about 300 went up.

01:08:15.000 So just let's take that.

01:08:16.000 500 and 300 pastors mentioned, even mentioned, hey, Roe versus Wade repealed. 0.97

01:08:22.000 Good thing. 0.83

01:08:26.000 So God blesses the nation and we ignore him.

01:08:30.000 Thanks for your question.

01:08:35.000 And just to add on to that point, people say, Charlie, when is God going to intervene?

01:08:39.000 He intervenes.

01:08:41.000 We just don't even dare to celebrate when he does most of the time.

01:08:44.000 Hey, Charlie, thank you for what you do.

01:08:46.000 Thank you, Congressman.

01:08:47.000 I have two questions.

01:08:48.000 Can I ask both or just one?

01:08:50.000 Go as quick as you can.

01:08:52.000 Okay.

01:08:55.000 I'm thinking that immigrants, those who are just coming from countries where there's a lot of war, are probably could probably be the biggest supporters of what you're doing.

01:09:03.000 I'm wondering, what are you doing to help encourage them to join the fight that you're in?

01:09:11.000 And I speak as one of them.

01:09:13.000 I'm from a country where there's war.

01:09:15.000 Where are you from?

01:09:16.000 Cameroon.

01:09:17.000 And I'm my country, Bernard Mia.

01:09:19.000 Welcome to America.

01:09:20.000 Glad you're here.

01:09:20.000 Thank you.

01:09:25.000 So seeing everything that's going on, personally, I'm appalled because this is not what we saw or hoped for or dreamed of.

01:09:32.000 So I'm wondering, as an immigrant, what can we do to join that fight?

01:09:38.000 Let me just say, I mean, this makes me so emotional.

01:09:41.000 You know, we just finished a turning point USA tour.

01:09:43.000 And what's your name again?

01:09:44.000 I'm sorry?

01:09:45.000 Ishmael.

01:09:46.000 Ishmael.

01:09:47.000 It's a powerful name.

01:09:50.000 And what Ishmael has said here is very important.

01:09:56.000 And I hear it when we did our event in Chicago.

01:09:59.000 I had three first-generation immigrants from three different parts of the world, Vietnam, Honduras, and from Africa.

01:10:06.000 And they said, Charlie, I didn't come here for this.

01:10:08.000 Why are you guys doing this to yourself?

01:10:12.000 And I don't know how to answer that.

01:10:16.000 What we're getting right now from Ishmael tonight is saying, guys, why are you committing suicide?

01:10:24.000 We need people like you, man.

01:10:26.000 And I hope that people will listen because maybe you who know actually what a war-torn, dysfunctional country, I don't mean to insult your home country, but it's dysfunctional, right?

01:10:37.000 And I think you would agree what that is.

01:10:40.000 This is a great place.

01:10:42.000 And we have people that come here and say, you know what?

01:10:46.000 It's actually pretty awesome.

01:10:48.000 And we have to be told by liberals that it's crummy.

01:10:52.000 I trust you a lot more than a university professor about how great America is.

01:11:02.000 What was your second question, Ishmael?

01:11:04.000 You said that the Bible is comprehensive and it answers all of our questions.

01:11:09.000 I agree 1,000%.

01:11:11.000 I want to ask this question this way, and it's not just for me.

01:11:14.000 Now, we believe as Christians that Jesus is the answer. 0.94

01:11:18.000 But here's the question: if Jesus Christ is the answer, then what does that answer look like when you're talking to someone who's a trans? 0.67

01:11:27.000 Who is trans. 0.78

01:11:28.000 Okay, good. 1.00

01:11:29.000 So Jesus is the truth. 0.93

01:11:31.000 So you need to tell them the truth.

01:11:33.000 Jesus does not want somebody to live in torment ever. 0.92

01:11:37.000 And so if somebody is trans and they're living in torment, we should have a heart to try to get them out of torment.

01:11:42.000 These are people that are struggling.

01:11:44.000 We need to understand that.

01:11:45.000 These are people that are under a delusion. 0.99

01:11:47.000 Now, the Christian approach to mental health and psychology for schizophrenia, for anorexia, should be the same that we have for transgenderism. 0.99

01:11:58.000 So let's just do a thought experiment. 0.78

01:12:00.000 Is it loving, is it the Christ-like thing if you're a doctor and an anorexic patient comes to you and she says, I want liposuction.

01:12:09.000 So anorexic, she thinks she's fat, but she's vastly underweight. 0.62

01:12:14.000 And she says, I want a procedure right now to suck the fat out of me. 1.00

01:12:19.000 No, the doctor would be abusing that patient, but that patient is living under a mental delusion. 0.96

01:12:25.000 So do you indulge in the mental delusion or do you love the patient enough to say, I'm sorry, sweetie, you're living a lie and I care for you too much to not give you what you think you want.

01:12:39.000 In the trans setting, the person comes in, they say, I think I'm a woman. 0.84

01:12:43.000 The doctor needs to be able to say, I love you enough to not give you what you think you want. 0.99

01:12:50.000 You see, the Christ-like way to deal with someone with trans is understanding that the torment does not have to be permanent. 0.96

01:12:57.000 We know this from the unbelievable amount of detransitioners and people that are now speaking out, like Ali London and Chloe Cole, of people that have left the transgender delusion and have come back into biological reality and alignment. 0.94

01:13:13.000 These people are suffering. 1.00

01:13:15.000 They're suffering from a social contagion.

01:13:18.000 And the way we love them is to make them no longer believe the lie.

01:13:26.000 Thank you.

01:13:28.000 No.

01:13:28.000 This will be the final question.

01:13:30.000 Ishmael, God bless you, man.

01:13:31.000 I wish most Americans loved America as much as you love America.

01:13:35.000 I mean that.

01:13:39.000 This will be the final question over here.

01:13:41.000 Hi, Mr. Bob.

01:13:43.000 I've known you since the 80s.

01:13:44.000 I followed you and met you through Scott and MJ Michaels.

01:13:47.000 I'm always wondering when you're going to run for president.

01:13:51.000 But you mentioned it briefly, both of you.

01:13:54.000 We know that readers are leaders.

01:13:56.000 So what would you recommend?

01:13:58.000 Top five books everyone should read to be a wiser person.

01:14:02.000 No, you go first.

01:14:05.000 We'll do one at a time.

01:14:08.000 Top five books for a wiser person.

01:14:10.000 Okay.

01:14:12.000 I was able to read 37 books last year, which was not as much as I wanted to read.

01:14:17.000 But obviously the Bible.

01:14:19.000 I will re-emphasize Dennis Prager's Rational Bible.

01:14:22.000 I think it's very important.

01:14:24.000 I think it's absolutely terrific.

01:14:26.000 Victor Franklin, Man's Search for Meaning.

01:14:29.000 If you're a Christian, it will make that book even more powerful.

01:14:32.000 Victor Frankl is the author of Logotherapy.

01:14:35.000 He was in a concentration camp.

01:14:37.000 One of the greatest authors, I think, of the 20th century.

01:14:41.000 Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl.

01:14:44.000 If you read it, you'll be at the end, you'll say, thank you, God, for having Charlie say that.

01:14:49.000 It will bless your life.

01:14:50.000 Number two, anything that C.S. Lewis wrote, but especially Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis, one of the greatest books ever written.

01:14:59.000 It's short, it's prophetic, it's deep, it is so profound.

01:15:04.000 It's called Abolition of Man.

01:15:05.000 Also, the screw tape letters are great. 1.00

01:15:07.000 Mere Christianity is fabulous. 0.95

01:15:08.000 Anything by C.S. Lewis, whenever you are looking for it. 0.85

01:15:11.000 Number three, Discrimination, Disparities and Discrimination by Thomas Soule.

01:15:18.000 It's the greatest refutation to the anti-racism BLM lie that we are living through by Thomas Sowell.

01:15:25.000 Number four, let me think about this.

01:15:27.000 I actually had a real, okay.

01:15:29.000 Number four is a good one: Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

01:15:33.000 I want to give you an R-rated warning.

01:15:35.000 Aldous Huxley was a contemporary of George Orwell.

01:15:39.000 We often talk about how things are Orwellian.

01:15:42.000 I want us to start talking about how things are Huxleyan.

01:15:46.000 Aldous Huxley predicted the downfall of sexual norms and the erosion of the Western family more prophetically in fictional form.

01:16:00.000 If you are familiar with 1984 by George Orwell, great.

01:16:04.000 You will be very moved by Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, where it's all about what could drugs do if you just want to numb yourself.

01:16:15.000 How could the state use technology to destroy your humanity?

01:16:19.000 And then finally, the last book.

01:16:21.000 What would be the best book to recommend for the Times of Tay?

01:16:25.000 Talked about Franklin, talked about C.S. Lewis.

01:16:28.000 You know, I would have to say, anything by Churchill, but especially a book about Churchill that I like Larry Arn's book, Churchill's Trial.

01:16:38.000 And I think that's a really, really important book.

01:16:41.000 I think Winston Churchill was the greatest man of the 20th century.

01:16:44.000 Why?

01:16:44.000 Because everyone talked about how flawed he was till he saved Western civilization.

01:16:51.000 You know, we have nobody like that in America, right?

01:16:53.000 Obviously.

01:17:00.000 Churchill's Trial by Larry Arn.

01:17:03.000 He was the only alpha male left willing to actually save the West.

01:17:07.000 There's a beautiful part in the book where, you know, you could tell this story better than I could, Bob, with the imagery.

01:17:13.000 But there was a crisis of confidence of Neville Chamberlain.

01:17:17.000 And I think it was the queen.

01:17:18.000 It might have been king at the time.

01:17:19.000 I think it was the king.

01:17:21.000 Wanted to see Winston Churchill.

01:17:22.000 Remember, Churchill was in total. 1.00

01:17:26.000 Yeah, he was in isolation and scandal because of the Darnells. 0.98

01:17:30.000 And Churchill was called by the king to, hey, come over here to help me figure out who the next prime minister is going to be.

01:17:35.000 And he said, what?

01:17:36.000 At that moment, I felt the weight of the world coming up on my shoulders because I knew I was the only man up to the job.

01:17:44.000 If you think he was cocky, he was, but he earned it.

01:17:46.000 He saved the West, and he's got something to learn from that.

01:17:48.000 Those are five books I recommend.

01:17:50.000 That's wonderful.

01:17:51.000 That's absolutely excellent.

01:17:52.000 And after he was given the seals of power, he said he went home and slept the sleep of a newborn babe, content in the knowledge that finally someone was in charge and knew what they were doing.

01:18:06.000 But let us just close with that situation.

01:18:09.000 In the 1930s, everything that they did was wrong.

01:18:13.000 You could have prevented 55 million people dying. 0.87

01:18:17.000 And yet, all of that mistake after mistake after mistake, until finally, on May 10th, Friday morning, Hitler rolls into France. 0.86

01:18:26.000 And now France is gone. 0.86

01:18:27.000 And now all of Europe is gone.

01:18:29.000 And only Britain is there alone.

01:18:31.000 And at 2 o'clock that afternoon is when the king invites Churchill over and says, says, Winston, how would you like to be prime minister?

01:18:39.000 Well, big hairy deal.

01:18:41.000 Everything's done now.

01:18:42.000 But then 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943, it wasn't until June of 1944 that the Americans showed up and they landed at Normandy and they started to march.

01:18:55.000 Now, let me take the context of that just a bit.

01:18:59.000 That is that when we see what's been going on around here for a long time, for the last 30 years, we've seen our educational system be stolen.

01:19:07.000 Most of us remember when we had small schools all during the 1970s and 80s had consolidation.

01:19:12.000 So they did away with the local schools.

01:19:14.000 And then they began to get teachers that now don't have appreciation for where we are.

01:19:18.000 There's been an awakening that's taken a place just at the last few moments.

01:19:23.000 Say, but look at all the badness that's taken place.

01:19:25.000 Now people are beginning to be concerned who's on the school board.

01:19:28.000 And we've wanted to take the money away from the bureaucracy and give it to the parents.

01:19:33.000 Arizona, we've tried that for now for 30-some years.

01:19:36.000 Every time they would just about do it, the labor unions would come in with hundreds of millions of dollars and they would defeat it.

01:19:42.000 Till finally, 18 months ago or so, Arizona broke the log jam.

01:19:48.000 Now there's six more states.

01:19:50.000 Seven more states will do it over the dark.

01:19:53.000 And so I look at it this way is to World War II.

01:19:57.000 Nothing happened for a long time.

01:19:58.000 Then things are under chaos, but then we started to make some steps.

01:20:01.000 And that is we began to lose people.

01:20:03.000 We lost 3,800 on the first day at Normandy.

01:20:06.000 Then you begin to lose more and lose more.

01:20:08.000 And if you just dropped out of the sky, you can say, oh, isn't this terrible?

01:20:11.000 Well, it is.

01:20:12.000 But we're now awake.

01:20:13.000 We're now a fourth of the way to Berlin.

01:20:15.000 Now we're halfway to Berlin.

01:20:16.000 Now we're three-fourths of the way to Berlin.

01:20:18.000 Now we're involved in a fight in which the church is beginning to awake.

01:20:22.000 The communities are beginning to awake.

01:20:24.000 We're now beginning to fight a bit when we were just laying there letting them roll over us for a long, long time.

01:20:29.000 So in this battle, do not become weary with well-doing.

01:20:32.000 That is that this on our watch, we're not going to let it fall.

01:20:37.000 I won't go through, I would just add one other thing that people are concerned about.

01:20:41.000 What book I enjoy, history and biographies.

01:20:44.000 And reading is my form of entertainment.

01:20:46.000 I don't play golf.

01:20:47.000 If I have a moment free, I'm going to read.

01:20:49.000 That's my form of having a good time.

01:20:51.000 But for those that want to say, why is America in a free enterprise?

01:20:55.000 Why is it blessed the world as it does?

01:20:58.000 As I could just mention, there's a ship parking at this moment in Hong Kong and in Singapore using a global positioning system conceived, invented, and maintained by Americans.

01:21:09.000 There are people that are ordering parts from all over the world using an internet conceived, invented, and maintained by Americans.

01:21:16.000 There are skyscrapers all over the world because an American invented the elevator. 0.94

01:21:21.000 This little 4% has done all of these things. 0.99

01:21:24.000 Now, why?

01:21:24.000 There's a book that's called the 5,000-year leap.

01:21:27.000 And that is that Adam and Eve and Moses and Noah and Christ and George Washington, they all traveled the same way.

01:21:37.000 But suddenly there's this leap that begins to take place in which all these things happen.

01:21:41.000 It's called the 5,000-year leap.

01:21:43.000 Each chapter is about three pages long, two to three pages.

01:21:46.000 It's 28 principles of the United States.

01:21:49.000 And if I were to recommend a person wanting to know how do I understand what makes America different economically, that would be the book I'd recommend.

01:21:56.000 Thank you so much.

01:21:58.000 Everybody, on May 3rd, we have Barry Maguire.

01:22:01.000 You're not going to want to miss it.

01:22:02.000 I want to encourage you to bring a friend who does not know the Lord.

01:22:08.000 That's your homework assignment, okay?

01:22:10.000 May 3rd, you have to bring a friend who does not know the Lord.

01:22:14.000 It's going to be in your face in the best possible way.

01:22:18.000 Barry McGuire, who I think is one of the best evangelists in America.

01:22:23.000 May 3rd.

01:22:24.000 Give it one last time up for Bob McEwen.

01:22:25.000 God bless you guys and see you next month.

01:22:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:22:33.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:22:36.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:22:37.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 22, 2023

They Won’t Leave Us Alone — LIVE from Freedom Night with Bob McEwen

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