The Charlie Kirk Show - Think BIG! How Trump Can Win Again

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00:00:09.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we explore how Trump can win.

00:00:13.000 Think big.

00:00:14.000 This is one of the most thought-provoking episodes.

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00:01:45.000 We are going to think creatively.

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00:02:06.000 All right, buckle up, everybody.

00:02:07.000 Here we go.

00:02:08.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:02:10.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:02:12.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:02:16.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:02:19.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:02:20.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:02:21.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:02:29.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:02:38.000 That's why we are here.

00:02:42.000 America is depressed right now.

00:02:45.000 America is at its lowest level of tonality that I've ever lived through.

00:02:53.000 America is in total need of a jolt of positivity and optimism more than ever before.

00:03:00.000 Many loyal Trump supporters that I have spoken to in the last couple of days have honestly lost total hope in America.

00:03:06.000 And they don't even think that if President Trump wins four more years, it'll matter.

00:03:12.000 Many loyal Trump supporters that I speak to, they have no idea what the 2020 message is or what we are running on this November.

00:03:22.000 One of the most impactful books I read growing up was Trump's 2007 book, Think Big.

00:03:30.000 One of the quotes that really resonated with me was, and I remember presenting it to my eighth grade teacher, and she just laughed and kind of scoffed at it and dismissed it, was as long as you're going to be thinking anyway, think big.

00:03:45.000 And Donald Trump repeated that many times throughout his business career.

00:03:49.000 And in a lot of ways, in 2016, Donald Trump challenged America to think bigger.

00:03:56.000 In fact, in 2016, Donald Trump was able to capture the imagination of a nation.

00:04:04.000 A lot of the people thought that Hillary Clinton lost more than Donald Trump won.

00:04:09.000 I never believed that.

00:04:11.000 And I wrote about this in the MAGA doctrine, and I've hashed out this thesis even more in recent weeks.

00:04:17.000 Donald Trump was able to get America to dream again.

00:04:21.000 Yes, we will bring jobs back.

00:04:24.000 Yes, we will build a wall.

00:04:26.000 Yes, we will be great again.

00:04:28.000 Yes, we will be dominant.

00:04:31.000 Yes, we will do impossible things.

00:04:33.000 And guess what?

00:04:34.000 We're going to win so much, you're going to be sick of it.

00:04:38.000 In fact, Donald Trump tempted Americans to dream for a better future for the first time since Ronald Reagan.

00:04:46.000 I've personally met thousands and thousands of people, and some of you have emailed me here at freedom at charliekirk.com, who said they voted for the first time in their lives in 2016 because Donald Trump captured the creativity and imagination of a nation that felt like we were in perpetual decline.

00:05:07.000 In many ways, the country right now is in a total reset.

00:05:12.000 Many of the landmark economic and cultural accomplishments of the last three years have been erased by the lockdowns and by the virus.

00:05:21.000 It is now almost time for Donald Trump to run a completely new campaign, as if he were running for the presidency for the first time.

00:05:29.000 Now, mind you, politicians are able to win votes in three categories.

00:05:33.000 Now, this is something that I came up with originally, but as I explain it, it's not anything original.

00:05:39.000 It's just a way, in my opinion, to categorize political communication in an easy-to-way understand.

00:05:45.000 Politicians are able to either run on what they did, what they are currently doing, or what they will do.

00:05:53.000 So, Donald Trump is able to go to the American people and say, hey, look at Kavanaugh, look at Gorsuch, I did that.

00:05:59.000 Donald Trump is able to go to the American people and say, what they're doing.

00:06:02.000 I'm managing the Chinese coronavirus right now, or what they will do.

00:06:06.000 Or Donald Trump's able to say, we're going to go to Mars.

00:06:09.000 We'll talk about that in one second.

00:06:11.000 Now, Joe Biden fails to be able to talk about what he did because what he did is in such contradiction to what he's trying to run on now, because he was almost a completely different senator than he is a candidate right now.

00:06:24.000 He's not doing anything because he's not in office.

00:06:27.000 And no one knows what Joe Biden actually is going to do.

00:06:31.000 And so if you actually compartmentalize politics into did, doing, and will do, Donald Trump has a huge advantage.

00:06:38.000 This is why incumbents traditionally are able to win.

00:06:41.000 It's because they are able to say, look what I'm doing right now and look what I did, whereas outsiders can only say what I will do and criticize what was done.

00:06:50.000 So Trump traditionally, over the last 40 years, was the best will-do icon in America.

00:06:56.000 This is why so many people followed and supported him.

00:07:01.000 His focus on achieving the impossible, breaking barriers, building Trump Tower, writing Art of the Deal, building the Woolman rink was Trump defying detractors and using incredible focus, stamina, and relentlessness towards achieving success.

00:07:17.000 This is exactly how he won in 2016.

00:07:20.000 And the recent departure from this is to blame for why Donald Trump is in a current less than desirable position.

00:07:29.000 What is Donald Trump's Trump Tower right now?

00:07:33.000 What is his Woolman rink?

00:07:35.000 What is the next massive dream or focused objective of the Trump presidency?

00:07:40.000 The president understandably feels like he's already done so much and that he's received no credit for it.

00:07:47.000 And all the accomplishments of his presidency have basically been invalidated.

00:07:52.000 In fact, the president feels like he's done more than any other president, let alone in eight years and three years, and now everyone's forgotten it.

00:08:00.000 And he's right.

00:08:02.000 You throw in a three-year witch hunt, an illegal impeachment, a pandemic, and race riots.

00:08:08.000 It's easy to see how all the amazing wins have been totally erased.

00:08:13.000 Now, despite all this, Donald Trump has to almost rerun on a will-do campaign, not a I did campaign.

00:08:22.000 Now, mind you, with the nation being in a trough right now and in an endless spiral towards despair and destruction, a positive, upbeat, big message will resurrect the spirit of America.

00:08:39.000 Our country will rebound instantaneously with positivity and energy around concrete ideas.

00:08:47.000 Again, Trump won on the credibility of being able to say, I built amazing businesses.

00:08:53.000 I can rebuild America.

00:08:54.000 And he could still lean on some of the done category for America, meaning I had the lowest ever black, Hispanic unemployment, Asian American, and female unemployment. 0.83

00:09:04.000 And that's why we have to dream again.

00:09:07.000 In fact, America needs the 2007 Donald Trump, who's a business promoter and a positive beam of energy.

00:09:15.000 I've done a lot of serious thinking about what this actually looks like and means.

00:09:21.000 I think the president has to push the boundaries of what we are able to talk about in political discourse.

00:09:27.000 So let me give you an example.

00:09:28.000 At our event, a Turning Point Action, we hosted the President of the United States in front of 3,000 students in Phoenix, Arizona last week.

00:09:36.000 The two greatest applause lines with the most enthusiasm was when President Trump said, we are going to Mars and Space Force is created.

00:09:45.000 Let me play some tape and you can hear the roar from the crowd yourself.

00:09:50.000 Play tape.

00:09:51.000 And I very proudly created the sixth branch of the United States Armed Forces, the Space Force.

00:10:02.000 Last month, we returned American astronauts to space aboard American rockets for the first time in nearly a decade.

00:10:11.000 And the United States will be the first nation to plant our beautiful American flag on planet Mars.

00:10:25.000 These were by far the most excitable and actionable forward-thinking statements of the entire event.

00:10:32.000 Americans want to dream again.

00:10:34.000 They want to think bigger than themselves.

00:10:37.000 See, if you leverage recent cultural controversies and the collateral damage that has been done by Democrats, Trump can amazingly and creatively break out of this Washington, D.C. matrix.

00:10:50.000 He can use the social anxiety that the Democrats and the media have focused on and created to his advantage.

00:10:57.000 And we know this in physics, and it's not untrue in politics.

00:11:01.000 For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

00:11:04.000 So when you feel like you're in a rut, use that energy of negativity and reposition it towards something positive.

00:11:14.000 Americans want to think we can do the impossible.

00:11:19.000 It makes us almost feel the permission to embrace that unique American frontier spirit.

00:11:27.000 You juxtapose the arson of America with the hope-filled message of a return to space, for example, it gives people an extra step of enthusiasm for our country.

00:11:38.000 So after a lot of thought, here are five concrete ideas that I think that Donald Trump can embrace and win on.

00:11:46.000 And this is different than low taxes or high taxes.

00:11:49.000 And President Trump's already advocating for some terrific ideas.

00:11:54.000 School choice, educational vouchers, charter schools, opportunity zones.

00:11:59.000 These things are needed.

00:12:00.000 These are five things that are currently not being talked about in the American political discourse that people can feel, that they can interact with, that they can say, yes, that's an America I want to raise my kids in.

00:12:13.000 Number one, we will make our kids love America again.

00:12:19.000 Parents are deathly worried about their kids' future.

00:12:23.000 They're afraid their kids will become the next generation of arsonists and thugs that have total disregard for our country.

00:12:30.000 Most suburban parents are overwhelmed by the daily stresses of life and are barely keeping it all together.

00:12:37.000 And they have very little remaining bandwidth to teach their kids history or how to properly advocate for America.

00:12:44.000 These parents are, interestingly enough, the suburban voters who are currently, let's just say, not supporting Donald Trump at numbers that Republican vote at Republicans usually do.

00:12:56.000 The recent burning of America offers a tremendous opening to countermove the negativity to a positive.

00:13:04.000 Use this unprecedented deletion of our history to challenge America to get our kids to love our country again.

00:13:14.000 Parents across the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, and Pennsylvania will signal massive support around a campaign to recapture the love of our incredible nation.

00:13:24.000 Make the Constitution mandatory in 5th, 7th, and 8th grade.

00:13:28.000 Make them have to pass a mandatory Constitution class.

00:13:31.000 Instead of allowing the statues of Washington and Jefferson and Lincoln be torn down, ask yourself, why are they being torn down?

00:13:39.000 It's because our kids don't love America because we failed our kids.

00:13:42.000 And Donald Trump needs to look the American people in the eye and say, the same DC cartel that spied on me and then impeached me also didn't teach your kids history, and I will make sure they learn it.

00:13:56.000 Parents are horrified that their kids might grow up in an America that is full of burning and looting and arson.

00:14:05.000 But instead of just going after the law and order message, which is so important, we should arrest these thugs and these terrorists, let's go after the root causes.

00:14:13.000 Let's ask ourselves, why are they doing this?

00:14:16.000 It's because those thugs that are taking down the statues in Washington, D.C., and Portland, and Seattle, just 10 or 15 years ago, were sitting in a middle school classroom hearing from a Marxist teacher say, America is an awful country.

00:14:34.000 We do not live in a exceptional country.

00:14:38.000 We live in a horrible place.

00:14:40.000 And that seventh grader who heard that started to believe it.

00:14:44.000 And he heard it again in 9th grade and 11th grade and then really heard it when he was in college.

00:14:50.000 Before you know it, he's taking a rope and trying to tear down a statue.

00:14:54.000 Root causes is where Donald Trump needs to focus on.

00:14:59.000 And America will reward him politically.

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00:16:09.000 Idea number two.

00:16:10.000 This is very provocative.

00:16:13.000 And it's time to think creatively.

00:16:14.000 Let's push the boundaries.

00:16:15.000 If there's any time to really stretch the imagination of our party and our movement, now's the time.

00:16:24.000 And one more thought on people learning to hate America.

00:16:27.000 I was so deeply disturbed by the story I read on Foxnews.com by Yael Holan, who says this, Michigan GOP candidate, deeply hurt by daughter's anti-endorsement, but applauds her for speaking out.

00:16:38.000 A young socialist by the name of Steph on Twitter, Stephanie Regan, came out and said, if you're in Michigan and 18 years old, please for the love of God, do not vote for my dad for state rep. Tell everyone.

00:16:52.000 That's what colleges do, is they create bitter, hateful resentment so that kids will rebel against their parents.

00:17:01.000 And he handled it wonderfully.

00:17:03.000 I mean, it's just, it makes me sick to my stomach that I see this, that we have parents who are running for office and their kids go viral saying to not vote for him.

00:17:12.000 And then the celebrities in the left say that she's a hero.

00:17:16.000 Honor your mother and father is in one of the Ten Commandments and the disobedience.

00:17:20.000 And the father is obviously saddened by it, but he's trying to keep his family together.

00:17:25.000 I hope he has some very private words and says you're going to pay for your own college now.

00:17:29.000 My goodness.

00:17:30.000 But that just goes to show people want their kids to love America again.

00:17:36.000 But it's our indoctrination factories and the left-wing institutions and colleges that are teaching the hatred of America every single day.

00:17:45.000 Another provocative idea that I have is having students take a gap year before entering college.

00:17:52.000 It could be mandatory.

00:17:53.000 That's awfully aggressive or not mandatory.

00:17:55.000 It could be voluntary.

00:17:56.000 To serve America for one year.

00:17:58.000 Essentially, a domestic Peace Corps to solve structural problems in America.

00:18:02.000 Now, there's AmeriCorps, but it doesn't go anywhere far enough.

00:18:05.000 I'm talking about a new call of service in America.

00:18:09.000 You see, when I speak to audiences, there's a massive and enthusiastic response when I float out the idea of having young people serve their country for a year before entering college.

00:18:19.000 This will address the root causes and help solve a lot of the economic challenges we are seeing with recent graduates.

00:18:25.000 I believe that if we can create a new national gap year program for 18-year-olds across the country to help tackle poverty, address opioid addiction, and address other issues, we'll have a new national focus on fixing structural issues.

00:18:38.000 This idea has been floated by many people, and I believe will be really favorably rewarded by voters as it addresses root causes.

00:18:47.000 Right now, we are losing America.

00:18:49.000 And the Trump base totally agrees.

00:18:52.000 And some people think it's already lost.

00:18:53.000 In fact, I get these messages all the time at freedom at charliekirk.com where people say, Charlie, the country's already lost.

00:19:00.000 I'll vote, but it's done.

00:19:02.000 People have lost hope.

00:19:03.000 They're becoming despondent.

00:19:05.000 They're full of despair.

00:19:06.000 They want to see a new vision for America where young people are excited and serving the country, not burning it down.

00:19:14.000 So if Donald Trump basically steps up and says, we are going to have young people build America, not burn America, that's something voters can get behind.

00:19:26.000 That is a huge juxtaposition to the arson of the Democrat Party.

00:19:31.000 Idea number three is something that my friend Chris Buzkirk from AmericaGreatness.com talked about in a previous episode of the Charlie Kirk Shaw.

00:19:38.000 I encourage you to check it out.

00:19:40.000 And I want to give him tremendous credit for it.

00:19:42.000 Says, why are we not self-sufficient?

00:19:46.000 And the idea is this: we must make America completely self-sufficient by the end of Trump's second term.

00:19:54.000 If you want to see one thing that the Chinese coronavirus exposed, it is how dependent the United States is on China and other countries for critical supplies and infrastructure.

00:20:04.000 We don't make antibiotics, vitamin C, PPE, things that we need for our country.

00:20:09.000 We don't make them anymore.

00:20:10.000 And it's because the ruling class and the political cartel sold out our country to China and China's affiliates and American companies that have no patriotism at all in their company or in their worldview.

00:20:20.000 Instead, all they care about is maximizing the bottom line.

00:20:23.000 And if we don't have a country and they're just able to sell us out and decay the inner part of everything that we're doing, then so be it.

00:20:31.000 Polling shows that this is an 80-20 issue across party lines, that we can make things in America, and we must.

00:20:38.000 Donald Trump has already started us along this thought process.

00:20:41.000 He won in 2016 around saying we are going to bring back supply chains to America.

00:20:46.000 Now, mind you, a lot of economists say, well, what about competitive advantage or comparative advantage?

00:20:51.000 Well, comparative advantage is fine if the only thing you care about is pennies on a dollar. 0.61

00:20:56.000 But when we need to get antibiotics or vitamin C in a pandemic from our greatest enemy, China, I don't care if it's pennies on a dollar. 0.70

00:21:03.000 And by the way, what's the comparative advantage of not having the millions of lost jobs of people that could be making massive pieces of infrastructure, PPE, vitamin C, antibiotics? 0.99

00:21:14.000 And I'm just off the top of my head, Advil, all of it's made in China, all of it. 0.99

00:21:19.000 We must bring these industries back to America immediately. 0.66

00:21:23.000 Now, mind you, the Chamber of Commerce and a lot of their affiliates will totally reject this.

00:21:27.000 And the Chamber of China wants the Chinese Communist Party to be perpetually in control over our critical infrastructure.

00:21:36.000 What is a nation that doesn't make its own steel?

00:21:39.000 That's what Donald Trump said in 2016.

00:21:42.000 The same is true for antibiotics and PPE.

00:21:45.000 We can no longer depend on foreign adversaries for the betterment of America. 0.98

00:21:50.000 The virus has exposed how much we have sold out the core of our country to the Chinese Communist Party. 0.98

00:21:56.000 And this will tangibly address it and will be met enthusiastically by voters. 0.98

00:22:00.000 So President Trump should go find a vacated old factory that is very real to the voters of Michigan or Wisconsin, that people knew when they drove by for 50 years and it's now empty.

00:22:12.000 And he should do a press conference outside of that factory.

00:22:14.000 And he should say, you see this factory right here?

00:22:17.000 This factory will make vitamin C two years from today if you re-elect me president of the United States.

00:22:22.000 This factory will be empty and converted into an opioid clinic if Joe Biden is elected president of the United States.

00:22:29.000 That kind of visual, President Trump can win on.

00:22:31.000 President Trump should fly to Southeast Ohio and find an opioid clinic and say, we're going to shut down this opioid recovery clinic because we're not going to have enough people that need to go there and we're going to turn it into a manufacturing plant to make antibiotics, to make PPE.

00:22:46.000 People think visually, especially people that have lost their jobs in factories and plants that were a part of their identity.

00:22:57.000 Donald Trump won these voters in 2016 because he made them dream that they could get an America back where they used to have dignity and high wages and functioning communities.

00:23:07.000 And we didn't sell out our country to the neoliberal elites that promised us that the greatest thing in the world was the continual decay of the middle class of our country.

00:23:17.000 Idea number four: a military-style war room needs to be created to address urban crime and failing schools.

00:23:25.000 President Trump needs to announce a 24-7 war room designed to address all issues of urban conflict and crime.

00:23:32.000 This needs to be staffed by military, National Guard, and cultural leaders.

00:23:37.000 Local cities and mayors, like in Chicago, where they had dozens of people shot and dozens of people killed in just the last 30 days in downtown Chicago.

00:23:44.000 I mean, we had over 100 people shot over Father's Day weekend and two minors were killed.

00:23:50.000 Yet Black Lives Matter remained completely silent on this.

00:23:52.000 Donald Trump needs to create a 24-7 war room that monitors these hotspots, that is deploying federal resources, invoking the National Guard, not necessarily saying he needs to use the 1807 Insurrection Act, but it needs to be on the table.

00:24:05.000 And also, he needs to focus on root causes.

00:24:08.000 Any school that is failing their students that doesn't have kids reading at grade level, he should bring in the National Guard to go teach the kids how to read.

00:24:17.000 Because obviously, the teachers aren't doing their job.

00:24:19.000 The teachers are not doing their job.

00:24:21.000 And the National Guard should get involved in the schools in Baltimore, Cleveland, Chicago, Milwaukee, Los Angeles, all across the country.

00:24:28.000 And if a school does not hit federal standards, they should bring in the National Guard.

00:24:33.000 They should deploy in the National Guard.

00:24:36.000 That's right.

00:24:36.000 And people say, well, Charlie, that's federal overreach.

00:24:39.000 Well, at some point, we need to start representing our citizens, or we don't have a country.

00:24:43.000 The states have failed them.

00:24:44.000 The citizens have failed them so much.

00:24:46.000 And guess what?

00:24:47.000 I supported Dwight D. Eisenhower bringing in federal troops in the 1950s to enforce the desegregation of the American South. 0.99

00:24:58.000 I'm a fan of that. 0.60

00:24:59.000 I'm a fan of using federal force if it's for a righteous and moral purpose.

00:25:03.000 And some conservatives disagree with me, but guess what?

00:25:06.000 We are breaking apart at the seams of our country, and people have been so betrayed by their local leaders, specifically Democrats.

00:25:15.000 It's time to make tangible differences in the communities that have been so disadvantaged all across the country.

00:25:22.000 And by the way, this can pair very nicely with a lot of the opportunity zone victories and criminal justice victories that President Trump was able to pass and sign into law.

00:25:32.000 And by the way, what's the point of electing conservatives if they can't do anything about the problems they were elected to fix?

00:25:39.000 Idea number five: rebuild the American family.

00:25:45.000 President Trump should float a massive goal that we are going to cut fatherlessness in America in half in the next five years.

00:25:52.000 By the time his second term is over, fatherlessness will be cut in half.

00:25:57.000 This is brilliant for a couple different reasons.

00:25:59.000 Number one, the fatherlessness rate is massive in communities run by Democrats.

00:26:04.000 Number two, the Democrats don't think fatherlessness is an issue, and they actually support high rates of fatherlessness.

00:26:10.000 Number three, it'll make our country so much better, stronger, vibrant, and a better place to live.

00:26:16.000 We will not tolerate kids growing up without fathers anymore.

00:26:19.000 President Trump needs to say that.

00:26:20.000 He's tweeted out every single day from now to the election.

00:26:23.000 I will not tolerate an America where kids are raised without fathers.

00:26:27.000 Period.

00:26:28.000 End of story.

00:26:29.000 Now, of course, there's abusive fathers, and those should be dealt with quickly, expediently, and throw them in prison.

00:26:37.000 But that is not the vast majority at all.

00:26:40.000 In fact, most individuals that are fathers abdicate authority and responsibility because the government subsidizes single motherhood, and fathers are allowed and given a free pass to act like grown infants and not take responsibility for their actions. 0.62

00:26:54.000 Black fathers matter.

00:26:57.000 All fathers matter.

00:26:58.000 This is an issue that's a 95-5 issue in Wisconsin and other Midwest states.

00:27:04.000 Everyone agrees with this, and zero politicians dare speak about it.

00:27:08.000 This is where Trump thrives, by the way.

00:27:10.000 President Trump thrives on issues that the traditional political class and the ruling class are deathly silent on.

00:27:17.000 The Democrat Party does not believe in strong families.

00:27:20.000 In fact, Black Lives Matter, which is an affiliate of the Democrat Party, says on their website that they must disrupt and destroy the Western prescribed nuclear family.

00:27:30.000 President Trump needs to challenge Americans to build strong families again. 0.75

00:27:35.000 This would be a breath of fresh air.

00:27:36.000 It would be a shot in the arm.

00:27:38.000 And by the way, the Democrats are so pathologically opposed to everything that the president says that when he says we need to build strong families, they're going to come out and they're going to say we don't need strong families.

00:27:47.000 That's when you're going to start to see the Democrat poll numbers tank and President Trump climb and climb and climb.

00:27:54.000 Now remember, President Trump has to win just a collection of certain states.

00:27:59.000 He has to win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

00:28:02.000 Those states believe in the family.

00:28:04.000 They believe in the church.

00:28:06.000 Use the Democrats' pathological opposition against Trump to our advantage.

00:28:11.000 If they're going to oppose everything Trump advocates for, then find popular things, advocate for those things, and make them oppose them.

00:28:19.000 Things rooted in truth that are also popular.

00:28:23.000 Building strong families will make Trump skyrocket in the polls.

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00:29:23.000 And so if President Trump advocates for even three out of these five things that's out of the kingdom of Washington, D.C. political orthodoxy and speaks directly to the American people about things that can actually matter to them.

00:29:35.000 And by the way, that's not an exhaustive list.

00:29:37.000 I think number six can be saying that we're going to cut the suicide rate in America in half because suicide is something that I think politicians never talk about.

00:29:44.000 We have a mental health crisis in our country that has been so ignored.

00:29:48.000 And if President Trump says suicide is something that is affecting every corner of American society, we're going to cut the suicide rate in half.

00:29:54.000 He'd be richly rewarded by voters.

00:29:56.000 Idea number seven, mandatory minimums for rapists and people that commit sexual assault.

00:30:01.000 You know, the average rapist spends four years in prison. 0.99

00:30:03.000 You want to win women voters? 1.00

00:30:05.000 Say that rapists will spend a minimum, mandatory minimum of 30 years in prison. 0.99

00:30:10.000 Number eight, reducing illiteracy in the inner city by 50%.

00:30:14.000 If all of a sudden saying you're going to start to solve structural issues through all sorts of different ways, America needs that positive future right now.

00:30:21.000 So every time I sit at a meeting in Turning Point USA or any meeting that I'm involved in where we have a problem and we're trying to work through that problem and we're trying to come up with a solution, I always say this.

00:30:31.000 We did this on the podcast, and a lot of our, let's just say, success is attributed to this thinking matrix.

00:30:38.000 And I think President Trump and his team needs to employ this exact exercise.

00:30:43.000 And I encourage you to do this in your life right now.

00:30:46.000 Ask yourself the question: what does success look like?

00:30:49.000 And then work backwards.

00:30:50.000 Again, I didn't come up with this.

00:30:52.000 This is thousands of years old.

00:30:53.000 It's just amazing how little people use that thinking technique.

00:30:59.000 Now, it's easy to say for the Trump campaign, well, it's just beating Joe Biden in November is the victory.

00:31:03.000 Oh, okay.

00:31:04.000 I think that's what success looks like, possibly.

00:31:06.000 But what does success look like for America?

00:31:09.000 What does success look like for our country?

00:31:11.000 That's not articulated.

00:31:13.000 Just beating Joe Biden is not success for America.

00:31:16.000 It's a huge win, make no mistake.

00:31:18.000 But concretely, what's the country we want to live in?

00:31:21.000 I talked to a lot of young parents.

00:31:23.000 Benny Johnson at Turning Point USA is about to have a child.

00:31:26.000 And Madison Cawthorne, who just won his amazing primary in North Carolina, just got engaged.

00:31:30.000 And he said something very similar recently.

00:31:33.000 And a lot of people that are thinking of starting families right now.

00:31:36.000 And some team members on the Charlie Kirk show, including Mr. Producer, just had another child.

00:31:42.000 And one theme I hear from young parents that actually do not think very favorably of Donald Trump, do you know what they all say?

00:31:50.000 What kind of America am I raising my kid in right now?

00:31:53.000 That's a huge target demographic that President Trump needs to speak to right now.

00:31:58.000 Young parents.

00:32:00.000 Because young parents that have just kind of gotten the shot in the arm that they're now responsible for one or two or three human beings, they're looking around and they're saying, I don't know how to process this country and I don't like it.

00:32:13.000 And some of them are kind of going to the flight to safety, which is the treasury bond equivalent in politics of Joe Biden.

00:32:19.000 Like, sure, maybe this will get me back to an America that makes sense.

00:32:22.000 Because when Obama was president, this is what made sense.

00:32:25.000 Things were a lot more calm when Biden was in office than Donald Trump.

00:32:28.000 Bring me back to that.

00:32:30.000 Donald Trump has to articulate what success looks like: families that are rebuilt, churches that are flourishing, suicide that is going down, America being self-sufficient.

00:32:41.000 Our kids will love our country.

00:32:43.000 The Constitution will be well understood.

00:32:44.000 We'll be building statues of George Washington, not tearing them down.

00:32:49.000 Donald Trump needs to say, we will be a country where our kids come home excited to tell their parents about George Washington, not ashamed for being America.

00:32:59.000 We'll be a country where schools are so on fire for the writings of Ben Franklin and John Locke that they will be erecting statues to our leaders, not trying to bring them down, that they will be naming schools after Abraham Lincoln, not renaming them.

00:33:17.000 That we will not be renaming John Wayne Airport, which is what they're doing in Orange County, California right now, but instead, we'll be solving structural issues like homelessness and drug addiction.

00:33:28.000 Show me the America that we're trying to achieve.

00:33:31.000 What does success look like?

00:33:33.000 Success will be a country of kids that will love America and their God so much that the parents will be like, whoa, calm down a little bit, little Johnny.

00:33:42.000 I get it.

00:33:42.000 I love America too.

00:33:43.000 That the parents will have to calm down their kids because they'll be so on fire for America.

00:33:47.000 I want to live in that country and we're not living in that country right now.

00:33:51.000 This is root causes.

00:33:52.000 It all flows downstream from there because the country we're living in right now is parents that have to look their 11-year-olds and their 14-year-olds in the eye and they say, Hey, do you guys want to, what do you guys want to do for July 4th? 0.92

00:34:03.000 And the 11-year-old's on their phone all day, and they say, I don't know, July 4th is awful because our country sucks.

00:34:08.000 And they just kind of look in the distance.

00:34:11.000 That's not sustainable.

00:34:13.000 Instead, how do we optimistically and concretely and tangibly create America where they put their phone down and they say, I can't wait to celebrate America.

00:34:22.000 Now, mind you, what's so brilliant about these five ideas is that Donald Trump can't be blamed for these structural issues because they predate him by generations.

00:34:34.000 It's been a betrayal by the ruling class in both political parties as to why these problems exist.

00:34:40.000 Donald Trump can now solve them.

00:34:43.000 This is where I think the Trump Campaign currently needs to refocus their energy.

00:34:48.000 This is no longer a policy debate.

00:34:50.000 You see, most political campaigns is like, I stand for high taxes.

00:34:54.000 I stand for low taxes.

00:34:55.000 I stand for more regulation.

00:34:57.000 I stand for less regulation.

00:34:58.000 That was the Romney versus Obama campaign in 2012.

00:35:01.000 It was a technocratic policy debate.

00:35:03.000 Like, here's my 12-step plan to restarting small businesses in America.

00:35:08.000 Okay, that's not what's happening anymore, everybody.

00:35:11.000 We are now in a full-fledged hand-to-hand combat culture war.

00:35:16.000 This is no longer about white papers that have been published by think tanks in D.C. America wants to know, and especially Washington, especially people in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Florida, they're looking at their leaders and they're saying, like, hey, if you don't solve this, I'm going to do it myself, and I'm going to homeschool.

00:35:33.000 And if you're not going to address it, I'm not going to be enthused to vote for you.

00:35:36.000 And my kids definitely won't be, and my neighbors won't be.

00:35:39.000 And if you're going to leave me alone and not talk about it, then so be it.

00:35:42.000 And the people on the cultural left, they feel like their leaders are communicating culturally right now.

00:35:48.000 The people on the cultural left are actually getting their cultural daily dose out of Alexandria Kazi-Hortes and Elon Omar.

00:35:55.000 They are getting what they desire.

00:35:57.000 Our Republican base and our conservative base, we are not getting that from our leaders right now.

00:36:02.000 We are not getting concretely the America we want to live in.

00:36:05.000 And by the way, notice that when this cultural battle happens, especially after George Floyd's death, our conservative leaders retreated to just parliamentary tactics.

00:36:15.000 Well, let's introduce a bill in the Senate.

00:36:17.000 Let's reform this. 1.00

00:36:19.000 Something that like Nancy Pelosi probably could have even authored.

00:36:22.000 Instead, they should have said, America is a beautiful country.

00:36:25.000 You will not insult America in front of me. 0.98

00:36:27.000 In fact, if you dare insult America and call it a racist, bigoted, homophobic, backwards colonialist country, you're an anti-American and you should be kicked out of the U.S. Senate. 0.97

00:36:35.000 Where is that fighting spirit? 0.96

00:36:37.000 There is no grit.

00:36:38.000 When Republicans fight, we win.

00:36:40.000 And when we're able to articulate what success looks like, Republicans are rewarded.

00:36:44.000 Let me give you two examples of Republican presidents that served two terms and one reelection convincingly because they articulated the soul of the country and what success looked like.

00:36:54.000 Number one, a president that we forget about so often because he was such a successful president.

00:36:59.000 And I didn't agree with him everything philosophically.

00:37:01.000 In some ways, he was a big government guy.

00:37:02.000 In other ways, he was just a patriotic American trying to get America back on track.

00:37:07.000 Dwight D. Eisenhower.

00:37:09.000 Dwight D. Eisenhower made America dream.

00:37:12.000 He made America dream that we could be a peaceful, robust, moral country post-World War II.

00:37:17.000 He built the American interstate system. 0.99

00:37:20.000 He was a huge force for desegregation. 0.99

00:37:22.000 He made America think big. 0.53

00:37:26.000 He also warned us against the military-industrial complex.

00:37:30.000 Differently and separately, Ronald Reagan.

00:37:32.000 He made America think big in a different way, that we can defeat Soviet communism, that we're going to break out of the Carter malaise, that we can be the best.

00:37:40.000 We are the best.

00:37:41.000 The frontier spirit was renewed.

00:37:42.000 And guess what?

00:37:43.000 Donald Trump won on the spirit and the ethos of Eisenhower and Reagan.

00:37:50.000 He needs to re-embrace that, to think big again.

00:37:54.000 I know he has it in his bones.

00:37:56.000 And guess what?

00:37:56.000 I know he's going to do it.

00:37:58.000 I just want him to do it sooner rather than later because I don't want him to do it within the last 20 days of the candidacy.

00:38:03.000 And it's too late because votes are already being cast and the voter fraud's already happening and people's minds are already made up.

00:38:08.000 Now is the time to convince and persuade people.

00:38:12.000 Now remember, if every action has an equal and opposite reaction, now's the time to push your imagination.

00:38:18.000 If America's currently in a cycle of despair and depression, use that negative energy to our advantage.

00:38:23.000 Countermove it.

00:38:26.000 Because right now, Joe Biden knows that if America continues in the direction of depression, he might get elected president of the United States.

00:38:37.000 And Donald Trump almost has to run as a political outsider, as an incumbent, because of how unusual and bizarre this entire year has been.

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00:40:07.000 I'm sure if you're listening to this podcast, you feel like you're losing your country.

00:40:11.000 You might even feel a little bit down about America.

00:40:14.000 I get it, and I hear you.

00:40:17.000 I bet you want to dream again, right?

00:40:20.000 I mean, you think about it, it's actually rather intentional.

00:40:23.000 You probably can't do July 4th the same way that you could in years past.

00:40:27.000 You probably can't go on the family vacation the same way that you could in years past.

00:40:30.000 You probably can't go out to your favorite restaurant the way you could in years past.

00:40:34.000 You probably can't even go to the beach the way you want to.

00:40:36.000 And Texas has reclosed bars, and so is California.

00:40:41.000 Sports, I don't even know what's going on with sports right now.

00:40:43.000 They can't get their act together.

00:40:44.000 Can't go to concerts.

00:40:45.000 You can't go to outdoor venues in Travis County, Texas of more than 100 people.

00:40:51.000 You could probably feel a little bit depressed.

00:40:56.000 Alcoholism, drug usage, mental health issues are accelerated dramatically.

00:41:02.000 In fact, a friend of mine who's very well respected even told me today that antidepressants make up 60% of all the new pharmaceutical prescriptions that are being written in the country.

00:41:15.000 And Gavin Newsom just closed down bars in eight counties in California.

00:41:20.000 When America's at its lowest point, which I think we're at our lowest point in decades right now, just philosophically and culturally and psychologically, and we might enter lockdown 2.0, now's the time for Trump to give that pump-up speech. 0.78

00:41:34.000 Now's the time for Trump to give that halftime locker room talk and say, things suck right now.

00:41:42.000 I get it. 0.98

00:41:44.000 Christians are being arrested.

00:41:45.000 They're marching in the streets for Pride Parade and for Black Lives Matter protests.

00:41:49.000 And if Christians and conservatives dare step outside, you get arrested or you get ticketed or you get condemned.

00:41:55.000 You probably lost your job.

00:41:56.000 You can't go on vacation.

00:41:57.000 Your kids hate the country.

00:42:00.000 Let's do something about it.

00:42:02.000 Let's believe in a better America now and not just a soundbitey bumper sticker campaign.

00:42:09.000 Let's be bolder than ever before.

00:42:14.000 They're going to take us down, standing up, not on our knees, if we lose this battle.

00:42:19.000 But guess what?

00:42:20.000 We're not just going to do the same traditional Republican Orthodoxy talking points.

00:42:24.000 Let's think bigger than ever before.

00:42:25.000 And this is what I love about this podcast because I hear from you guys.

00:42:29.000 You guys are my instant polling service.

00:42:34.000 In fact, you guys are the most valuable polling company in the entire world, the Charlie Kirk Show Polling Company.

00:42:39.000 So here's what I want.

00:42:40.000 I want you guys to email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:42:43.000 The crazy, creative, off-the-wall, probably a little bit provocative ideas that you think Donald Trump should embrace.

00:42:50.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:42:54.000 Think creatively.

00:42:56.000 Descartes says you think, therefore I am.

00:42:59.000 Tell me what you think of these five ideas, but also send me your ideas of what you think politicians, Republicans, and the president should embrace, because guess what?

00:43:06.000 We are going to need to push the boundaries right here, right now.

00:43:10.000 And for the hundreds of thousands of people listening to this, email me, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:43:18.000 And it was more like eight ideas, but still, maybe it's eight ideas to make America great or whatever.

00:43:22.000 But if Donald Trump made his 2020 slogan and scrapped all that other stuff and he said, think big, we will win.

00:43:29.000 Five words that could recapture America's imagination.

00:43:34.000 The great eight big ideas or something.

00:43:36.000 I want to hear your ideas.

00:43:37.000 So email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:43:40.000 Because right now, we are trending poorly.

00:43:42.000 I don't think the polls are as bad as the media makes it seem, but I do not think that if the election were held today, that it would go well.

00:43:48.000 I just don't.

00:43:48.000 I think that's an honest assessment.

00:43:50.000 I don't want to try to say something that is, I never want to tell you something that is not true because you guys trust me with hours and hours of your time.

00:43:57.000 And thank you for that.

00:43:58.000 And you guys also invest in our show at charliekirk.com/slash support, charliekirk.com slash support.

00:44:03.000 And guess what?

00:44:04.000 The election is far from over.

00:44:06.000 We could totally come back.

00:44:07.000 Four months is an eternity in presidential politics.

00:44:09.000 I'm just giving you an assessment and temperature check right now.

00:44:13.000 And by the way, a lot of the polling, the reason why Donald Trump is not doing as well in some of this polling is people are pretty upset about the direction of the country.

00:44:20.000 Like a lot of it is like, are you happy with where your life is right now?

00:44:23.000 No.

00:44:24.000 Why?

00:44:24.000 I don't know, because of the president.

00:44:26.000 So it's a lot of it. 0.86

00:44:27.000 A lot of this is wrongly placed blame of a screwed up country thanks to the Chinese coronavirus and the lockdowns that happen.

00:44:34.000 And then they blame the president just because that's what happens when you're in leadership.

00:44:37.000 Leadership's hard.

00:44:38.000 Leadership's tough.

00:44:39.000 Leadership means you have to be blamed for things that are not your fault and you have to keep on punching and come up with new vision and new ideas and remain eternally optimistic.

00:44:46.000 And Donald Trump is the perfect person for that.

00:44:49.000 We can win and we will win if we capture the imagination of a depressed nation.

00:44:55.000 We will lose if we just relentlessly attack Biden and think that no one will vote for a senile old man because Americans are smarter than that.

00:45:05.000 That's not the case.

00:45:06.000 I do think Americans are very smart.

00:45:08.000 But if you do not capture them, if you do not make them think outside of the normal boxes of political orthodoxy, there's no guarantee we will win.

00:45:16.000 And guess what?

00:45:17.000 The more creative, interesting candidate almost always wins.

00:45:21.000 Almost.

00:45:21.000 Barack Obama in 08 in 2012 won up against the stale, stodgy individual.

00:45:26.000 George Bush in 2000, 2004 was the cowboy that had much more provocative and creative ideas.

00:45:31.000 Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan. 0.77

00:45:33.000 Joe Biden is definitely the stodgy, boring candidate.

00:45:36.000 Donald Trump could be the one that could just make people say, well, that's a pretty interesting idea.

00:45:42.000 That's what he did in 2016.

00:45:45.000 He made us push the boundaries of what politics could be, more than low-tax, high-tax, big military, small military.

00:45:55.000 If you're like me, you want to believe that tomorrow will be better than today and that our kids and grandkids will live in a tremendous country.

00:46:04.000 And people are losing faith in that materially and tangibly.

00:46:10.000 Donald Trump is the last best chance of Western society and civilization.

00:46:15.000 It's time to make America dream again.

00:46:20.000 Win again.

00:46:21.000 We do that.

00:46:22.000 We will win in a historic landslide, advance in the Senate, and take back the House.

00:46:28.000 If we just trust the traditional GOP talking points, we will lose everything, including our country.

00:46:34.000 Please email me your thoughts.

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00:46:43.000 Get engaged, get involved, chip in some money if you can.

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00:46:55.000 And please email me your ideas.

00:46:58.000 I want to hear from you.

00:47:00.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

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00:47:03.000 Thanks so much.

00:47:04.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 29, 2020

Think BIG! How Trump Can Win Again

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